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Speaker 1: show about the sport you love. Australian television produces things

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Speaker 1: n RL three sixty for local flavor. As of tomorrow

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Speaker 1: Johnson is with us. Good to see you now, First

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Speaker 1: of all, let's talk about the team before we talk

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Speaker 1: about you. The team this year, you've got to be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly makes creating a league show midweek a

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Speaker 2: part in building the hype around our game. You know,

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Speaker 2: like it's a I feel like the growth of rugby

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Speaker 1: Can you succimply explain what's happen? Is it Webster. Is

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Speaker 1: it a combination of things that all of the potential

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't. I feel like our twenty three season

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Speaker 2: I guess in the months in the midst of history,

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Speaker 1: So he has a special something about him. Do you

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Speaker 2: Yered percent biggest advocate for him being a people's first

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Speaker 2: So he's got that. He's got that straight away, and

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Speaker 2: then he's built a roster with you know, other people

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Speaker 1: A game we played where significant names haven't been missing

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's a special it's a special trait to have,

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Speaker 1: So the controversial question I have for you this morning,

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Speaker 2: I think, my honesty, I think you persist because he's

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Speaker 2: He's the best kicker in the club. And I think

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Speaker 1: So it'll get better.

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Speaker 2: It'll get better one hundred percent will get better, and

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Speaker 2: it gets better through in game reps, not practice. Practice helps.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're right because I saw it two games

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Speaker 2: This is so good because this is exactly what I

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Speaker 1: There you go, that's crazy, you know.

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Speaker 2: I want to speak, you know, to what you're feeling,

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Speaker 1: And how do you deal with well, I mean, you've

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Speaker 2: Education? Education? I feel like, you know, say, say someone

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Speaker 2: At points in my career, I was kicking at sixty percent, right,

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Speaker 1: is the is the creative genius behind it. Which is

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Speaker 1: interesting because you were telling me off here before we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think you know, for me to commit

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Speaker 2: No? No, No, that'll be a that'll be a work

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Speaker 1: Are you self critical? Are you good at that sort

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Speaker 2: I wasn't prepared to do anymore, son, No regrets, Loving

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Speaker 1: With do you want to be? How involved I've seen

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Speaker 2: No? Not not very not very not. Not from a

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Speaker 2: performance standpoint. I've got great relationships with the boys, Still

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Speaker 2: catch up for coffees midweek, yarn soundboard anything that they've got,

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Speaker 2: very much a soundboard for firm if he needs it.

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Speaker 2: But god damn no, none of them need me. Look

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Speaker 1: But do you see yourself in the game at some

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Speaker 2: Oh, man, Look, I'd never say never. Is that a

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Speaker 2: no aspirations. No, you know, am I passionate about passing

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Speaker 2: might just help them navigate what they're about to feel sure,

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Speaker 2: one percent, I am passionate about that. I've got some

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Speaker 2: So that's in the background, brewing away. But in terms

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Speaker 2: I got no, no, no thought.

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Speaker 1: It's a good place to be there right right, the

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Speaker 1: wrongly good, it's a good place to be. What do

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Speaker 1: you do for fitness in terms of.

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Speaker 2: I put my back out, putting my socks on the

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Speaker 2: other day, No.

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I'm so I am a woeful at encouraging myself to

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Speaker 1: Still look in good shape though, so yeah, you obviously

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Speaker 1: have to let yourself go.

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Speaker 2: No, I eat well, I think you know, my diets.

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Speaker 2: It's just part of me, right, That's just the way

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Speaker 2: I've eaten for a long time. So it's not I enjoy.

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Speaker 2: I enjoy, you know, my fast foods every now and there,

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Speaker 2: enjoy a beer every now and then. But it's all

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Speaker 2: in moderation. But I'll slowly, I've starting to get to

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Speaker 2: where I haven't done anything, and I'm like you, you're

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Speaker 2: disgusting human. You need to get going again. So I'm

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Speaker 2: going to start finding a gym, finding a bit of routine.

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Speaker 1: Good on you, well, good luck tomorrow night, and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure it will go well and we'll catch up with

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Speaker 1: your mid season or the end of the season or

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Speaker 1: whatever and talks more about it.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks having nicely Sean Johnson.

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