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Speaker 1: This is the Agenda Podcast for the Thursday, the twenty
Speaker 1: second of August.
Speaker 2: The Agenda Podcast, the home of Sporting Nonsense and clap Trap,
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Speaker 1: I've said it before, Matt Heath, and I'll say it again.
Speaker 1: I used to take the pass out of Jason Hoyt
Speaker 1: because every day before his radio show he would write.
Speaker 3: Down a note and I would always wonder what is
Speaker 3: he writing.
Speaker 1: One day I went in there and had a look
Speaker 1: at it, and it was just the day's date, literally
Speaker 1: said get our New Zealand, welcome into Bouge or the
Speaker 1: Big Show or whatever. Today is the blah blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. And I always really that the one thing
Speaker 1: that's repetitive in your show, you have to write that down.
Speaker 1: And here I am stumbling over the date every day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's harder than you'd think. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: date is.
Speaker 4: Oh it is the ah, look at that. My minute's
Speaker 4: hand is over the date because it's because it's currently
Speaker 4: caught a pass So I just have to wait there
Speaker 4: Thursday that it's just moved come around.
Speaker 1: Twenty second thing is I do this podcast every day,
Speaker 1: so like basically.
Speaker 4: Had one to the well you kind of add one
Speaker 4: and then it rolls over. You know, you know, like
Speaker 4: you're on this you don't know how many days half
Speaker 4: each month.
Speaker 3: It's so arbitrary.
Speaker 1: And I think I've tried one of my half bag
Speaker 1: sports ideas had nothing to do with sports. It was
Speaker 1: a base ten time system. Oh have I told you
Speaker 1: about this.
Speaker 4: I've been deep into this because someone there's people trying
Speaker 4: to get it going.
Speaker 3: The base ten time system.
Speaker 1: So there's ten hours in a day, ten days and
Speaker 1: a week, I guess ten weeks in a month.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I want to bring in because you know
Speaker 4: in China, China should have I think it's five time zones,
Speaker 4: but they only have one because they're like, we want
Speaker 4: to be able to organize meetings, and so what does
Speaker 4: it freaking matter If the number is twelve that's lunchtime. Yeah,
Speaker 4: if that number is nine and it's lunchtime, that's right, twelve,
Speaker 4: it's not it's just you an arbitrary number. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: So I'm like global clock is because if you're organizing
Speaker 4: a zoom call. You just want to be able to
Speaker 4: say Global twenty four hour clock and you say, well
Speaker 4: it's at three. Yeah, it doesn't matter what that what
Speaker 4: you'd normally do. It doesn't matter if that's your afternoon
Speaker 4: tea or doesn't mean if you're out of the wiiz,
Speaker 4: it doesn't it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: It's just a three.
Speaker 1: So then it goes from a time difference across the
Speaker 1: world to just a cultural difference in that part of
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 3: They have dinner at for him. Yeah, isn't it interesting? Yeah,
Speaker 3: the number is four and that's when they have their dinner,
Speaker 3: but we have it at sixteen. But you're even like,
Speaker 3: even better make it decimal.
Speaker 4: Although I've been thinking about the decimal system and I'm
Speaker 4: going off it because you're off the decimal system because
Speaker 4: twelves can be divided easily into four.
Speaker 3: I think why they used to have it is like
Speaker 3: quarters quds has it works? Yeah, you know, And then
Speaker 3: I think, what happens? We just got so fancy.
Speaker 4: You know when people are winning races by one thousandth
Speaker 4: of a second. Yeah, you know that that kind of
Speaker 4: you know, measuring a race and pounds doesn't work anymore,
Speaker 4: or ounces.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're right about the time zone thing is like,
Speaker 1: why don't we just have everybody's on the exact same time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I used to work in the mainstream sports media
Speaker 1: and trying to tee up interviews with people in Australia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, shit show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that are two hours behind us until we
Speaker 1: go into daylight savings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what gets you.
Speaker 1: Then some of them are three hours behind us, but
Speaker 1: only for two weeks. Then they do daylight savings, but
Speaker 1: then some others don't observe it. Yes, I think Adelaide
Speaker 1: has its own time zone and.
Speaker 4: I think we could probably work out that worth And
Speaker 4: even if are we going to we are going to
Speaker 4: do darlight saving, why don't we just change the number
Speaker 4: so you go, Hey, you guys have to write it
Speaker 4: at work at eight now. Yeah, Like, we don't need
Speaker 4: to change the whole fricking thing. We just need to
Speaker 4: say that, you know when it's daylight saving, Hey, daylete
Speaker 4: saving tomorrow, so you're over at eight tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Everyone's got that. Yeah, it was seven now it's eight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all the other way around.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're a bit beholden to this the slrubbish. I'm
Speaker 4: actually trying to have you read the book blitzed?
Speaker 3: Sure? Heaven is that the one about myth and the myth.
Speaker 4: In Nazi Germany? And they're the guy that wrote at
Speaker 4: Norman Eiler. He's just written a book called Tripped, which
Speaker 4: is acid in the in Nazi Germany. It needs to
Speaker 4: be stopped, he does. But I'm just trying to tee
Speaker 4: up an interview with him. He's the literary pad of
Speaker 4: galat And so I was just trying to work out
Speaker 4: and I realized I was too dumb to work out
Speaker 4: a zoom call with someone in Berlin.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just was like, we're gonna have to really, I
Speaker 4: love your box, I really want to talk to you,
Speaker 4: but I'm too dumb. Yeah, I'm too dumb to work
Speaker 4: out to line this one up one up, So we're
Speaker 4: gonna have to not do that.
Speaker 1: There are websites that can help with this. I used
Speaker 1: to have one bookmarks from when I was trying to
Speaker 1: interview tea up interviews all around the world.
Speaker 3: Just be like, right, apm out time, then it's your time.
Speaker 1: Then you organize an interview and you say I'll talk
Speaker 1: to you at eight pm, but you forget to say
Speaker 1: New Zealand time. Yeah, well South African time. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a whole shit show. And don't give you this bullshit
Speaker 1: about well it's too ingrained now you can't change it.
Speaker 1: Because when the Russians invented the Trans Siberian Bloody train line, yeah,
Speaker 1: they put time zones in. Yeah, we've got to figure
Speaker 1: it all out because this train, it's now possible for
Speaker 1: humans to move across five different yeah, time zones.
Speaker 3: So we've got to figure it out. Whereas the Chinese
Speaker 3: Communist Party went.
Speaker 4: Screw you your everyone's on the same time, at the
Speaker 4: same time.
Speaker 3: It's all the same time. Fuck you fuck, It's like,
Speaker 3: shut up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're going a different brand of communism because although.
Speaker 4: I talked to this guy from Wellington who's known as
Speaker 4: the New Zealand time Lord, and he's the guy that
Speaker 4: keeps our time and everyone everyone has a time lord
Speaker 4: and they they've all got the pulsar clocks and for
Speaker 4: time to work, it's quite complic complicated, and everyone has
Speaker 4: to be sinking the clocks around the world all the time.
Speaker 4: So I talked to him and his thing for this
Speaker 4: when I was pitching the idea of everyone having the
Speaker 4: same time, everyone in the world, and he was for it,
Speaker 4: but who's time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but who's time.
Speaker 4: But he was saying that we should actually have two times.
Speaker 4: We do actually have different two times. It's New Zealand
Speaker 4: because we've got shad of minds. Is on a different
Speaker 4: time zone, right, Yeah, but he was saying that actually
Speaker 4: in Thecargo and Ka Tire should be on a different
Speaker 4: time zone. But we've kind of said nah, and in
Speaker 4: Vcargo you're going to be up late on in summer.
Speaker 3: That's a good point. Yeah, so we've kind of we
Speaker 3: kind of have done it.
Speaker 1: It's down south, the sun's up till like ten o'clock
Speaker 1: at night in peak summer.
Speaker 4: And then when we were down in Dunedin it was
Speaker 4: we were so confused when we were recently down.
Speaker 3: There, sunset shortly after we got up.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but it's not like we started crashing our
Speaker 4: cars and running around and having sort of aneurysms or anything.
Speaker 3: Just was like, oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: So but hang on, so the time lord, So surely
Speaker 1: is this a full time employment?
Speaker 3: Yeah, your time lord.
Speaker 4: And but they're having meetings constant. Apparently they have no
Speaker 4: trouble at all working out their zone. Zoom calls, everyone's there.
Speaker 3: You'd hope.
Speaker 4: So, but it's not as simple as you just set
Speaker 4: the clocks going, well, it's a year. The guys from
Speaker 4: America throwing up and go, what's happening down there? And
Speaker 4: the specific let's link it up, and they're and they're
Speaker 4: doing they're doing it constantly.
Speaker 1: I just imagine his whole workday is just zoom calls
Speaker 1: any what time is it?
Speaker 3: What time is it? Twelve? What time is it? What
Speaker 3: time is it where you are?
Speaker 1: And they're like, systems working, Okay, hit your buddon wait, wait, three, two, one?
Speaker 3: Where do we go on one? Do we go when
Speaker 3: you push it? Or do we go after ye paper?
Speaker 4: And then you're in Beijing and you're like, get out
Speaker 4: of here, it's not that time, Beijing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ring up, Beji funk off. We're doing our own time. Look,
Speaker 1: you guys do whatever time you want. But yeah, we're
Speaker 1: doing and then why do we Yeah the Gregorian calendar.
Speaker 1: Let's not go into the whole.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, let's not talk about why October.
Speaker 3: Is the bloody tenth. Let's not get into that either,
Speaker 3: because it should be the eighth. It should be the eighth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, Vember's clearly the ninth month, but there's the
Speaker 4: eleventh December.
Speaker 3: Look, that's tenth. That's ten. They're ten, but there's twelve.
Speaker 4: So what are we doing here overhaul the whole system?
Speaker 1: I guess you need to have a global emperor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to do that kind of thing, make those changes. Once
Speaker 1: China takes over everything, well, could they just get on
Speaker 1: with it?
Speaker 3: You know, we know what you're up to. Yeah, although
Speaker 3: they do have.
Speaker 1: Some problematic policies around what are the funniest things when
Speaker 1: they instituted communism over there. One of the guys obviously
Speaker 1: they couldn't run the farms. There's a sports podcast by
Speaker 1: the way. They couldn't run the farms. So whoever, I
Speaker 1: think it was chim and mal whoever is it was
Speaker 1: all the birds. Birds are eating all the crops. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just get the sparrows. The sparrows are the problem, so
Speaker 1: we'll kill all the sparrows.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Plagues of locusts, the locus, Yeah.
Speaker 2: They were.
Speaker 3: They didn't realize.
Speaker 4: It was kind of like our I don't know why
Speaker 4: we introduced possums into New Zealand.
Speaker 3: What the it was? I feel like possums with word
Speaker 3: over here for a reason.
Speaker 1: That didn't it's like ossies came over and what is
Speaker 1: with all of this beautiful natural native flora and fauner?
Speaker 3: Yeah, gott to fuck that off? Or like those awesome
Speaker 3: people that bought in Gorse for their hedges.
Speaker 4: Oh bro, it's like Gorson kills me. Yeah, come on,
Speaker 4: that was a shit idea.
Speaker 3: And rabbits. You were too lazy to build a fence
Speaker 3: you brought gauseon. Yeah, well I.
Speaker 4: Think rabbits for the classic one, didn't They bring stoats
Speaker 4: and to get rid of the rabbits and so what
Speaker 4: then you had is just a shipload of rabbits and
Speaker 4: a shipload of stoats and very little native fauna.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they brought the canterbary panther in in
Speaker 1: an effort to try and stop all of that. Then
Speaker 1: the canterbary panther go on the lost of the field than
Speaker 1: most had to be introduced.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's keep going.
Speaker 4: Hey, this is a sports podcast for slightly off there
Speaker 4: for a second, I missed what you said, and I'm
Speaker 4: gotta listen better in podcasts, because you were telling a
Speaker 4: really interesting story about a guy trying to escape your
Speaker 4: school and getting attacked.
Speaker 3: By a dog. Oh yes, and I just ran rough
Speaker 3: shot over it with a very boring story about Sniff
Speaker 3: the dog or something.
Speaker 4: So I've got to listen. Oh yes, because yeah, because apologize.
Speaker 4: And I only really realized how good your story was
Speaker 4: until Joe came into a group chat with you and
Speaker 4: me and said.
Speaker 3: I had that guy get a tack my dog there
Speaker 3: as well. And I say, I kin'd of vaguely rememberhih,
Speaker 3: and I are saying that that sounds like a really
Speaker 3: interesting topic that should have been leaned into. But then
Speaker 3: I'm in the pot. I'm just coming cross with my
Speaker 3: beige material.
Speaker 1: So this is obviously something that had happened around regional
Speaker 1: Canagory in the eighties and nineties where they would put
Speaker 1: because his in summer, his school would have an assembly
Speaker 1: outside and they did the same thing, whole assembly sitting
Speaker 1: there and then a man, just strange man comes sprinting
Speaker 1: out of a classroom and gets mowed down by a
Speaker 1: fucking Alsatian and then our eyes as kids torn to
Speaker 1: shreds before your very.
Speaker 3: Eyes, like sounds a real tough love situation.
Speaker 1: Traumatize the man because he because when we did it,
Speaker 1: it was like come out of assembly, and then the
Speaker 1: teachers are all like stop here, so like what's happening?
Speaker 1: Then a man comes spreading out of a building and
Speaker 1: you know, mind you, this is a year or two
Speaker 1: after after nine to eleven. So I'm like, shit, they
Speaker 1: found us.
Speaker 3: Now you might as well have an active shooter in
Speaker 3: the school. But it's a fake active shooter. That's exactly color.
Speaker 4: It's like, God, Davy Feers has just got mowed down
Speaker 4: my own active shooter.
Speaker 1: What I don't understand is why couldn't they have told us,
Speaker 1: giving us a heads up. Hey, here's how it works
Speaker 1: when the cops are chancing without a bad guy. No,
Speaker 1: they're like shock and AWE has traumatized these kids.
Speaker 3: Oh I know what I did.
Speaker 4: I ran rough shot over that excellent store reviewers with
Speaker 4: me being told off for calling a zebra cross a
Speaker 4: prodescer in crossing the zebra cross. Yeah, it was a
Speaker 4: very mundane story. So anyway, if you say anything, just
Speaker 4: maybe put your hand up in all I zoning.
Speaker 1: Off the back of his hands up, My hands up
Speaker 1: off the back of the traumatizing school shenanigans. Joe asked
Speaker 1: in the text thread last night, did you guys ever
Speaker 1: have where you they put you into like a mangled
Speaker 1: up car and then the fibrigade would cut you out
Speaker 1: of the jaws of life like a training thing.
Speaker 3: I did happen at my school. Yeah, were you? Did
Speaker 3: you have to get in the car now? I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't get to get in the car, much to
Speaker 3: my and that was really unhappy. Sugrin.
Speaker 4: Chagrin was the weirdest loking for But I've been saying charggering,
Speaker 4: so I was too scared to say, yeah, I've only
Speaker 4: is it Sugrin, I don't know. I've only ever said
Speaker 4: it written down. I can't read.
Speaker 3: But I had to do it. Back in the day.
Speaker 3: My mate's dad.
Speaker 1: And world famous country music singer Kaylee Bell's dad were
Speaker 1: in the volunteer fibrigade.
Speaker 3: Oh for a second, I thought you were she by
Speaker 3: the way you're saying that she was your sister. No,
Speaker 3: because you said my dad. Oh you didn't say're not
Speaker 3: listening again, my friend's dead. Yeah and her dad.
Speaker 1: That's just by the biers wanted to shoot on Kaylee
Speaker 1: Bell into this podcast again anyways, and all so, but
Speaker 1: it's end all so. The Regent Theater, which she sold
Speaker 1: out six times in a row, which is more than
Speaker 1: the total population of the town we grew up at.
Speaker 1: They did like a volunteer fire brigade training exercise where
Speaker 1: it was like, we're going to pretend the theater's on
Speaker 1: fire and the fibrigade comes through to find all of
Speaker 1: the people who have passed out from the smoke inhalation.
Speaker 1: So my role as a twelve year old boy was
Speaker 1: to play and knocked out unconscious kid who just inhaled
Speaker 1: too much smoke.
Speaker 4: I've seen you in that state on Fridays and Saturday nights.
Speaker 4: I've seen you in that state in Paris. I might
Speaker 4: do it tonight. And so I where they put me
Speaker 4: was sort of just side stage, stage right, and it
Speaker 4: was behind a curtain.
Speaker 3: They lay me down on the floor.
Speaker 1: So I'm lying down with my head basically at the
Speaker 1: curtain end, and this dude comes through boots and all
Speaker 1: full fire and boots, steel cap, bet, respirator thing, helmet,
Speaker 1: the tank on the back, whatever that is. He comes through,
Speaker 1: pulls the curtain back and as he walks takes a
Speaker 1: step just boots me right in the side of the
Speaker 1: heat a fucking hell, and so I yell out and
Speaker 1: he bins over to see what's happened. And as he
Speaker 1: bins the like release valve on his respirator releases and
Speaker 1: all of the drool comes out of his fucking respirator
Speaker 1: just all over my.
Speaker 3: Face, Like, ah, what the fuck man?
Speaker 1: And he goes, hey, shush, You've got a pretend you're
Speaker 1: being knocked out.
Speaker 3: That's the whole point of this exercise. I was like,
Speaker 3: you just sped all over my face and kick me
Speaker 3: the fucking head.
Speaker 1: He's like, shush, and then carried me out wow front
Speaker 1: and Mum goes, how was that was that fun?
Speaker 3: I was like, that sucked.
Speaker 4: I am I not running rough the shot of your story.
Speaker 4: But I was on the front page of the Early
Speaker 4: t because I was one of those kids that makes
Speaker 4: news by getting stuck down a drain.
Speaker 3: Oh really, so I got.
Speaker 4: I got lost down a drain and couldn't get out
Speaker 4: up on near Highgate in Dunedan.
Speaker 3: How did you just crawl in? I crawled in.
Speaker 4: I was like, I want it was down there and
Speaker 4: I had this torch that I've got for Christmas, and
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, go down there. And I was
Speaker 4: about five, and because Marty Hill Primary School is just
Speaker 4: near there, went down there and I was on the
Speaker 4: front page of the hero old boy gets rescued from
Speaker 4: drain and I was in like one of those harnesses
Speaker 4: that they pulled you out of the drain.
Speaker 1: They lowered it, and they're like, so you were down
Speaker 1: like vertical down a drain, vertical down a drain. Yeah, Jesus,
Speaker 1: and then what they lowered the harness down there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's so it was weird because I wasn't
Speaker 4: scared at all. I was just like, oh, someone will
Speaker 4: get me, you know.
Speaker 3: But I think it called cook course a bit of
Speaker 3: concern in the in the Dunedin community.
Speaker 1: I can imagine, Oh, yeah, just get on you for
Speaker 1: not being ship even you telling me that I'm quite Yeah, if.
Speaker 4: I was down there now, I'd be shedding my pants. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's a sort of more honescent. You know, you a
Speaker 4: bit of a moron when you're five. Yeah, a little Yeah,
Speaker 4: natal go down there in the first place.
Speaker 3: But all's well, that is well, yeah, get on the paper.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably not what your parents thought you would get
Speaker 1: on the front page of the papety.
Speaker 4: I've seen that. It's very yellow, yellow bit of paper. Now,
Speaker 4: oh they've still got it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're still kind of nice a round one is
Speaker 1: over of the greatest New Zealander of all time, by
Speaker 1: the way, he they were over twenty one thousand votes
Speaker 1: across all of the matchups.
Speaker 3: That's huge.
Speaker 1: Let me throw some stats at you. The biggest win
Speaker 1: was Richie McCaw over Dan Carter. Wow, it's Richie getting
Speaker 1: eighty one percent of the votes.
Speaker 4: No one in the world would get eighty one percent
Speaker 4: of the votes against Dan Carter apart from Richie mccaugh.
Speaker 1: That's a very good point. Yeah, yeah, and it was
Speaker 1: actually surprising to me. But yeah, Richie just went and
Speaker 1: people love Dan Carter.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they love Dan Card.
Speaker 4: I was just watching All Blacks highlights sometimes I watch
Speaker 4: on YouTube they just come up, and I was watching
Speaker 4: a bunch of best moments.
Speaker 3: Of Dan Carter on YouTube yesterday and to some great moments.
Speaker 4: Great moments. I mean, his highlight reel is going to
Speaker 4: be better than Richard macauy's. But rich mccaugh's doing a lot
Speaker 4: of work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's putting the seed in some dark places. Dan
Speaker 1: Carter the TB actually obviously they wouldn't accept bets on
Speaker 1: something as bullshit as but they did put together odds
Speaker 1: for it, and Dan Carter was five point fifty was
Speaker 1: the second shortest odds. Wow, and he got knocked out
Speaker 1: in the first round, so just came up against the
Speaker 1: buzz or. The closest match up in round one was
Speaker 1: Bears versus Martin Crow, and Bears got there. Bears got
Speaker 1: there with fifty three percent. Now, this was one of
Speaker 1: the ones that was split between Instagram and Facebook. I
Speaker 1: think the Facebook audience a little bit older, so they
Speaker 1: were all Martin Crow Ah.
Speaker 3: Bears was all Instagram. Wow. Instagram was all Bears. But
Speaker 3: either way it was very close. Bears fifty three percent.
Speaker 4: Did you put up COVID the polio? Interesting that you
Speaker 4: probably get a similar split on Facebook.
Speaker 3: No, No, that wouldn't work.
Speaker 1: We shit, yeah, we should do the greatest greatest plagues
Speaker 1: of all time.
Speaker 3: Well, you could go meet He's also been fish, chicken pox.
Speaker 3: Monkey pox is having a real moment right now.
Speaker 4: I know my son came home and said, we've got
Speaker 4: we were you know, they're they're talking about lockdowns for
Speaker 4: monkey pox, and I say, it's not going to him.
Speaker 3: But that's what I said about COVID.
Speaker 1: I remember when swine flu came out. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I was still at high school. Yeah, and I knew
Speaker 1: a dude who had his appendix burst and the ambulance
Speaker 1: wouldn't pick him up beause they thought he had swine flu.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, my son was being born in the middle
Speaker 4: of One of my sons has been born in the
Speaker 4: middle of swine flu, and no one was allowed in
Speaker 4: the birthing room apart from me in the in the
Speaker 4: person giving birth in a doctor.
Speaker 3: I think a person giving birth was the mother mother. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you would. What was that person given birth? I think
Speaker 3: he would have made it.
Speaker 1: First match up. Oh sorry, So to go through the
Speaker 1: odds of throw on the back of the rundown, it
Speaker 1: cracks me up. So there were two conferences. Richie mccaugh
Speaker 1: it's the shortest sides at five dollars. Dan Carter was
Speaker 1: five dollars fifty. He got knocked out, And also in
Speaker 1: the other conference, Willie Apiazza was the other shortest favorite.
Speaker 1: He was at five dollars. He got knocked out by
Speaker 1: Charlie Upham at five fifty. If I was a gambling man,
Speaker 1: the longest sides you can still feature at the moment
Speaker 1: the four square guy eighty one dollars to win the
Speaker 1: whole thing. Yeah, he managed to sneak through and around
Speaker 1: number two, but I quite like you Herald the Giraffe
Speaker 1: at twenty six's jeez, that's good eating Jason Gunn at
Speaker 1: twenty one dollars and I think Jason Gunn because he's
Speaker 1: getting the most active in the comments. Yeah, okay, I'll
Speaker 1: probably go home if I was to try.
Speaker 3: And me and Jason Gunner currently in a series of ads.
Speaker 3: I've seen that. Yeah it's drinking whiskey.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a great god, he's a good man.
Speaker 1: Jason Gunn great New Zealander, great, But is he the
Speaker 1: greatest New Zealander of all time?
Speaker 3: Have you say? Right now? On Instagram and Facebook?
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break, we'll come back and talk
Speaker 1: some proper sport. Well, welcome back to the Gender Podcast,
Speaker 1: ostensibly a sports podcast.
Speaker 3: The ASP Classic is happening this summer.
Speaker 1: They've just announced their first headline marquee player and it's
Speaker 1: the Boo Lulu Son. She's going to be headlining KASP Classic.
Speaker 4: My least favorite person is special that nicol and Dimes,
Speaker 4: whether she's New Zealand or not, like she's playing under
Speaker 4: the New Zealand flag in this grew up in town.
Speaker 3: Now what do you want to spend some time there?
Speaker 3: Like why would you just just grab it, grab what
Speaker 3: you can get. Yeah, it's bloody great.
Speaker 1: Because, by the way, if Lebron James turned around tomorrow
Speaker 1: and was like, I'm from New Zealand, Yeah, everyone will
Speaker 1: be like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember she's ki. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think we need to wrap around all these because
Speaker 1: most sports people, particularly individual athletes, they have to travel
Speaker 1: around the world, yeah, for their sport, so you know
Speaker 1: there's always they're not going to be just like living
Speaker 1: in their hometown their whole life. No, how do you
Speaker 1: think this works anyway? Yeah, she's going to be the
Speaker 1: ASP Classic. Have you ever been to the ASP Classic?
Speaker 1: I have, Yes, I've never been. It looks like a
Speaker 1: good day.
Speaker 4: It's a really really good time on a hot sunny
Speaker 4: day there. I mean, I've told you the story before
Speaker 4: about when I was at the ASP Classic with a
Speaker 4: well known New Zealand sports presented at really steamed and
Speaker 4: we were hitting down there and we were in the
Speaker 4: in the taxi on the way down there and he said,
Speaker 4: I'm so angry about how people have to be quiet
Speaker 4: and the you know what, cricket, you don't have to
Speaker 4: be quiet and he's just got real be bond being
Speaker 4: his bond. He'd been drinking heavily and there was more
Speaker 4: drinking down there, and then he started yelling and the
Speaker 4: in the gaps.
Speaker 3: Oh, and he started.
Speaker 4: Yelling at one of the ball boys was a little
Speaker 4: fetty instead of a little fat ball boy because he
Speaker 4: was just trying to yell some stuff out and I'm
Speaker 4: like backing out of the little area where and the
Speaker 4: other side of the room.
Speaker 1: So he wanted a bit more vibe. And the thing
Speaker 1: he went for was it was all the ball boy fat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was unfair, was it Lane? It wasn't Glaye shocking,
Speaker 1: It wasn't Glane. And and it was just like, I
Speaker 1: get your point that maybe tennis you.
Speaker 3: Should be able to talk, it should be a bit
Speaker 3: more vibe. Yeah, but.
Speaker 4: You're not going around You're not going to effect change
Speaker 4: like that by going after a ball boy.
Speaker 3: No, you know, that's not how you effect change. You're
Speaker 3: not gonna win and minds and this change in the
Speaker 3: sport maybe a better let's go Lulu.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but why is it that tennis has to
Speaker 4: be quiet and other sports don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: They are very delicate. It's like anything happens to them
Speaker 1: in golf.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because because I've heard that, like if you're really
Speaker 4: good at tennis, the sound of the strings Yeah, different
Speaker 4: in terms whether they're smashing it or they're slicing it
Speaker 4: or yeah back or whatever, and which is conspiratorially white
Speaker 4: people for a while ago, Oh to cover.
Speaker 1: The sound of the fuck Yeah, I mean I don't
Speaker 1: know it could be yeah, but yeah, because tennis seems
Speaker 1: primed for like a darts type atmosphere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you can have such a great atmosphere. Yeah.
Speaker 4: They kind of have a bit more atmosphere Flushing Meadows,
Speaker 4: don't they.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also at the Australian Open when the Two K's,
Speaker 1: Curios and Coconnacus were going.
Speaker 3: For it, yeah, they brought in the ref raff. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: all the NRL fans started showing.
Speaker 4: Could you start a rival noisy tennis league, like a
Speaker 4: live live goals.
Speaker 3: It's a party party tennis. You just you just go
Speaker 3: for it.
Speaker 4: You know, you've got cheerleaders, you've got you've got like
Speaker 4: pumping music the whole time.
Speaker 3: That's a great idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it starts like a black clash type thing
Speaker 1: where you get you know, famous athletes.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, the Black Clash of tennis. I was
Speaker 4: thinking about the sports that could do a black clash,
Speaker 4: the Black Clash of tennis. I mean doubles you got like, yeah,
Speaker 4: oh my god. And then you'd have a whole, a
Speaker 4: whole day of tournaments. You've got Kiaran Reed and Steven Donald,
Speaker 4: Stephen Donald up against Dan Vittori and Lulu Son.
Speaker 3: Should obliterate them. Yeah, I think that's a great idea.
Speaker 3: The A C C Clash.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the Black Clash. But it's about bell acs.
Speaker 1: But I guess you know what's the other sport would go.
Speaker 4: I mean we're bringing rugby and cricket players into the
Speaker 4: I mean the black clashes Rugby cricket, Like would you
Speaker 4: bring I think rugby and cricket A yeah, it wouldn't
Speaker 4: bring like tennis squash that Famington's.
Speaker 3: And devoivs, Dave Dobbin or something. Got Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I think the Black Clash of Tennis is a
Speaker 1: grayerdya Overnight they named the Fourteenth Immortal. There was a
Speaker 1: lot of conjecture, yeah, certainly on this podcast that it
Speaker 1: was going to be Cam Smith. It was Ron Coote,
Speaker 1: who gotta be honest, little before my time, he will
Speaker 1: be the fourteenth and mortal. How the Rangey Lockforward won
Speaker 1: four premierships with South Sydney between nineteen sixty seven and
Speaker 1: seventy one for shifting to Eastern Suburbs and winning two
Speaker 1: more so a six time competition winner.
Speaker 3: And I guess he was eighty years old. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: saw the footage of him. Well that's a bit triggering
Speaker 3: to call him a mortal at eighty years old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably not far away from dying, to be fair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it also made me think that in my lifetime
Speaker 1: I probably won't see Cam Smith get immortalized because he's
Speaker 1: only like forty now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean, how much interest do you want
Speaker 4: on it? Because if it's yeah, if it's interest, I mean,
Speaker 4: shove Shawney Jay in there right now?
Speaker 3: Oh I think so.
Speaker 1: Stacy Jones, Yeah, Stacy Jones I put across through his
Speaker 1: own name a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: But you know we're forgiving. Yeah, Benji Marshall get a
Speaker 3: couple in there. So yeah.
Speaker 1: Ron Coop was the fourteenth mortal that was chucked in there,
Speaker 1: and the America's Cup team. I was just reading the
Speaker 1: article with Who's going to be in it this time around.
Speaker 1: It starts in a couple of weeks in Ernest. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously they're going to do their regatta, actually starts today prelim.
Speaker 1: Then the winners of that regatta next one face us.
Speaker 1: Team has your Burlings, your Chukes, yep, Nathan Outridge, who
Speaker 1: is the Swiss team driver, all the guys that were
Speaker 1: down in christ Church, and we're at the sale GP
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 3: The cyclers are back this year.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the grinders are gone, they're back on the
Speaker 1: on the cyclers and Hamish Bond is one of those.
Speaker 3: God Hamish Bond, what an incredible career.
Speaker 1: Just pops his head back up totally to do another
Speaker 1: job for the nation.
Speaker 3: Just got a great set of lungs on him and
Speaker 3: just just loves the country. Are we still angry about
Speaker 3: America's Cup? Well?
Speaker 1: No, well, like losing it from our shores. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. It doesn't seem I think we were
Speaker 1: pretty angry. But yeah, even then it is here, you
Speaker 1: can't see it, and but Berling and Chuck are such
Speaker 1: great guys, so yeah, it's hard to be angry about this.
Speaker 1: But I did think that was a great excuse today
Speaker 1: as a Thursday. We do a throwback Thursday every Thursday.
Speaker 1: Last week it was in PC. It's been Super Rugby
Speaker 1: before that, but I thought this week now it's as
Speaker 1: good a time as any to throw it back to
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five when New Zealand first won the America's Cup.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, who was our man? The commentator? Ye Pete
Speaker 1: Pete Petemont comment pet On commentary. The America's Cup is
Speaker 1: now New Zealand's Cup.
Speaker 3: It wasn't.
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety five New Zealand swept all five races to
Speaker 1: take the Cup away from the US for only the
Speaker 1: second time.
Speaker 3: One hundred and forty four years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is why, because I was asking Jerry
Speaker 1: the other day, I was like, why do we give
Speaker 1: a shit about this? Isn't It was because that I
Speaker 1: don't really remember the ninety five like I remember it happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah what I was four? But that was the whole
Speaker 3: red Sock thing, wasn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a lot of that. There was that
Speaker 4: the loyal loyal was fired up at that point.
Speaker 3: I think Loyle was there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you had Dennis kind of walking out on Paul Holmes.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think it was the very first episode
Speaker 4: of the Paul Holmes Show, which.
Speaker 3: Is The Seven Sharp Yes of This Time. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: it was right at.
Speaker 4: The start, and there's an interview with Dennis Connor and
Speaker 4: they started with the walkout.
Speaker 3: Yes, started with the walkout. Ah yeah, what a way
Speaker 3: to start a It was huge. We're starting a TV
Speaker 3: show just a couple of weeks. Yeah, you ready to
Speaker 3: a walk out?
Speaker 4: What would I have to say to you for you
Speaker 4: to walk out? I think there's been I think there
Speaker 4: were some walkouts in the original Game of Call Reggie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I keep trying to call it that as well.
Speaker 1: Reggie walked out on the Original Thrones Two Thrones Game
Speaker 1: of Two Thrones. It was when they keept replaying there's
Speaker 1: that clip that's gone viral over and over again when
Speaker 1: they're asking his messes about his haircut. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it looks really cool. He looks really smart with
Speaker 1: that haircut. And he goes, and then they just kept
Speaker 1: replaying that about five times, and then he will looked out.
Speaker 1: So I think if you dug up footage of me
Speaker 1: and my missus complimenting me and me go and then
Speaker 1: played it three or four times, I'd probably walk.
Speaker 4: Out Okay, well, I'll be putting a couple of techs,
Speaker 4: firing a couple of texts out your way, your household,
Speaker 4: trolling social media.
Speaker 1: Russell Kurtz and Brad Butterworth were the the skipper and
Speaker 1: the tactician of our boats, names that have gone on
Speaker 1: to do so much in sailing. What do you remember
Speaker 1: from the from the first time New Zealand one America's Cup.
Speaker 3: I remember the loyal part of it, Yeah, robing d Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's it's interesting because I think no
Speaker 3: was I in Dunedin at that point. Yeah, it's all
Speaker 3: such a blur. Yeah, I'm not sure. It's all sort
Speaker 3: of come together. Yeah. My dad's a sailor and what
Speaker 3: do they sail? And Donner's on the out on the
Speaker 3: harbor and.
Speaker 4: Then we yeah, yeah and round about he goes some
Speaker 4: quite a big sort of sailing situations. We always had
Speaker 4: a trailer sailor, and so I was kind of a
Speaker 4: little bit angry about yachting really because in sailing, because
Speaker 4: it was always my dad going yelling at me, you know,
Speaker 4: to do things like pulling the wrong road, Yeah, pulling
Speaker 4: the wrong road, and you know, going around, going around
Speaker 4: about and all that kind of stuff, and so I
Speaker 4: was kind of negative to sailing for for a long time,
Speaker 4: you know, like stuff your dad wants you to get into.
Speaker 1: That's why I never joined the army. It spent the
Speaker 1: first four years of my life. I'm burning a military
Speaker 1: camp and I was like, fuck, that's for a job
Speaker 1: and someone might shoot me. So yeah, I'm the same
Speaker 1: with the sailing.
Speaker 4: I mean, also, I've got a lot of shame for
Speaker 4: when me and g Lane called the wrong race. We
Speaker 4: called it that famously called that replay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you commentated an entire race. Yeah, that was a replay. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And so we thought we'd run the America's Cap but
Speaker 4: we were and there was no support from the from
Speaker 4: our support crew because everyone was on the Gin and Tonics,
Speaker 4: and so Joe Jury. So we finally like, Joe Jury
Speaker 4: is the great pist of us, and he holds the
Speaker 4: whole ac together at together, Yes, but finally commentate this
Speaker 4: whole race. And then someone tells us that, and then
Speaker 4: jo Joy goes.
Speaker 3: I thought it was a bit. I thought it was
Speaker 3: a fourteen minute long, but this was a bit. The best.
Speaker 1: The funniest part about that is that was the first
Speaker 1: time that Lane ever put some prep into his commentary,
Speaker 1: and he wrote a whole thing for when they finally crossed.
Speaker 3: Right, that's the most humiliating part.
Speaker 1: And so it's like no good to ever goes unpunished
Speaker 1: in the ACC. Yeah, because he that was the most
Speaker 1: if it has ever put in.
Speaker 3: The interesting thing is the ACC Almanac box available for
Speaker 3: people announce the history of the ACC and me and
Speaker 3: g Lane were instrumental in the creation of that book.
Speaker 4: So we've told a very one sided story of that.
Speaker 4: Like let's say that's now the record, well, that it
Speaker 4: was everyone else's fault, not ours, that it was no support,
Speaker 4: and that everyone was drinking, and that we had and
Speaker 4: so that's now the official record.
Speaker 3: And really what it was was we were drinking.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone, Yeah, I don't think anyone cares
Speaker 1: who's fault it was. I think the yeggs you guys
Speaker 1: commentated a whole replay.
Speaker 3: Jason was the most humiliating part of it.
Speaker 4: As we go, so similar to the relays race on Tuesday,
Speaker 4: Like it's exactly the same start like and they're like,
Speaker 4: this is just playing out exactly like Tuesday all the
Speaker 4: way through and go, oh my god, this is so
Speaker 4: similar to Tuesday, And at no point do we go
Speaker 4: it's because the race has been delayed and you're commentating
Speaker 4: Tuesday's race.
Speaker 3: That was your insight. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Now on the official record, it's Joe's jury's fault for
Speaker 4: not for not calling us morons and turning our microsoft.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jason Hoyt's done that a million time replays of work,
Speaker 3: exact same delivery, right through the same beds.
Speaker 1: Sorry, all right, let's take one more quick break and
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Speaker 2: You're gonna fellows. I'm just you guys should get behind it.
Speaker 4: And the seventy I was just about to call replay
Speaker 4: thing because I was like that guy always says we
Speaker 4: have what we've done, We've done the irony of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were just like how he says, that's exactly
Speaker 3: the same. I think he's exactly the same as he
Speaker 3: says that there was another one and we'll put it
Speaker 3: in a post here. Listen to this.
Speaker 5: I'm just thinking about the Wars this weekend, and we
Speaker 5: heard a lot of people saying, Shawnee j first try,
Speaker 5: I score a truck, some money on it. But one
Speaker 5: of the Warriors this smart because everyone's gonna think they're
Speaker 5: gonna go to Shorty j for a dry set it
Speaker 5: up to make a little Shorty Joe's going with the try.
Speaker 5: Then throw it out why to Dell and he does
Speaker 5: out in the corner, So I'm gonna throw some money
Speaker 5: off del have a first try score on anyway, funks
Speaker 5: out Canterbury.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was great.
Speaker 1: He was talking about how it's Sean Johnson's it's Sean
Speaker 1: Johnson's last game, so everyone's going to be betting on
Speaker 1: Seawan Johnson.
Speaker 3: Yeah score.
Speaker 1: But his point was that he thinks, why don't they
Speaker 1: use him as the biggest decoy of all time ah
Speaker 1: and spin it wide to dw Z and get on
Speaker 1: dw Z for the first try scorer.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, Well what that would mean?
Speaker 4: That would mean the Warriors were complicent in you trying
Speaker 4: to make some money because it's currently only paying seventeen
Speaker 4: dollars to be the first try scorer I think at
Speaker 4: the ta B and you know everyone's going to be
Speaker 4: you know, if there's an opportunity you were just across
Speaker 4: the line and you can hold off and give it
Speaker 4: to George Jay, you're gonna so he can score.
Speaker 1: I think that's where I would disagree with the caller. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, that is what everyone's going to be
Speaker 1: trying to do. Yeah, they aren't going to be trying to.
Speaker 4: The opposite thing is because it's a it's a dead
Speaker 4: rubber match, that's right.
Speaker 3: So unless you really want to get people's ta B
Speaker 3: accounts that have yeah on on Rick James Lesniak, then
Speaker 3: what are we with the it's in complicated.
Speaker 1: The other part of it is so, yeah they're using
Speaker 1: Sean Johnson as a decoy in the scenario.
Speaker 3: Why is it dw Z that benefits from that. Yeah
Speaker 3: that seems arbit true. Yeah, yeah it does.
Speaker 4: But I think people will be I think people will
Speaker 4: be standing over the try line, yeah, between the posts
Speaker 4: and a bit of a step to avoid any tacklers
Speaker 4: until Shawny J gets there and then handing them.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's right.
Speaker 1: But having said all of that, we do have a
Speaker 1: tab hunch to put on. And I'm sick of having
Speaker 1: all of these pinned on me when they don't come in.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to put one hundred dollars on DWZ
Speaker 1: to be the first try scorer.
Speaker 3: It's all on you.
Speaker 1: I think his name is Blake has sent this one through.
Speaker 1: It's all on you, Matte. That's paying ten dollars fifty
Speaker 1: opt one hundred dollars on. It's going to pay out
Speaker 1: one thousand dollars. Yeah, I mean emotionally, we don't need.
Speaker 4: It'd be better if he was the last try store scorer,
Speaker 4: you know, just pour the end of the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that would be great, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm completely throwing the old scapegoat thing on Blake. Here,
Speaker 1: DWZ first try scorer, the agenda hunch. Check it out,
Speaker 1: ten fifty, ten fifty money for jam. All right, let's
Speaker 1: knock this thing the head for a Thursday and we'll
Speaker 1: be back for a Friday episode of the Gender Pod.
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