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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks, that'd be time to get.

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Speaker 2: You up with our sustainability commentator Kate Hall killeder whatever.

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Speaker 2: So back in February. It was February a that they

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Speaker 2: introduced the changes to recycling, the standardization of recycling around

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Speaker 2: the country, which I think was only about thirty years

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Speaker 2: too late, Like it just seemed like one of those

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Speaker 2: incredibly obvious and rational things that they could have done

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Speaker 2: to make life a little bit easier so that you

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Speaker 2: didn't have different recycling standards in different parts of New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: But when they changed, they changed the recycling standards in February,

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Speaker 2: I reckon a lot of people, and I will be honest,

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Speaker 2: including people in my household, might have been a little

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Speaker 2: bit confused about some of the things that you can

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Speaker 2: and can't recycle anymore. And I was asking people before

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Speaker 2: eleven o'clock can you recycle an ice cream container let?

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Speaker 2: And of course the answer is.

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Speaker 3: No, you cannot put that on your curb side recycling,

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Speaker 3: but it can be recycled, but you can put it

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Speaker 3: in your curb side respect.

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Speaker 2: I reckon. I reckon A majority said yes. I think

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Speaker 2: most people know that you can't recycle a milk bottle lid.

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Speaker 2: I would hope they do, so you know that one

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Speaker 2: I reckon a majority would say you couldn't recycle a

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Speaker 2: milk bottle lid, and they'd be right there. But I

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Speaker 2: reckon a majority would say that you could recycle an

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Speaker 2: ice cream container lid because it feels like it's made

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Speaker 2: of the same stuff as the ice cream container itself,

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Speaker 2: don't you.

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Speaker 3: Well, totally, and even with milk bottle lids, you can

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Speaker 3: recycle those lids.

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Speaker 2: I think it's curb side curbside.

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Speaker 3: Curbs And we know. The reason why we can't put

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Speaker 3: the lids in is because you know, those little tiny lids,

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Speaker 3: if there's hundreds of thousands of them, they get caught

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Speaker 3: in the recycling sorting machines. That's one of the main reasons,

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Speaker 3: you know, why we can't put lids in there, so

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Speaker 3: that when people look at the ice cream container lid,

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Speaker 3: they're like, well, that's quite big. Yeah, it's not a

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Speaker 3: little milk bottle top lid. However, the sorting machines often

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Speaker 3: mistake those flack ice can container lids with paper and

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Speaker 3: so they end up contaminating the paper sauce. So it's

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Speaker 3: less about you know, what can and can't be recycled,

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Speaker 3: and it's more we're dealing with a mixed curb side

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Speaker 3: recycling scheme, which really isn't that isn't that great? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but you know, that's what we're dealing with, and so

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Speaker 3: therefore we can't put everything into that curb side recycling bend.

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Speaker 3: There are the places that we can publis.

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Speaker 2: Fifty five years since we put human beings on the moon, right,

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Speaker 2: and that's amazing when we send like tourists to space

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Speaker 2: these days, we have commercial engines going up to the

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Speaker 2: International Space Station, and yet we apparently can't design a

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Speaker 2: machine that won't get confused about an ice can container lid.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking.

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Speaker 2: There, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe I'll make a difference.

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Speaker 3: It's tricky, but okay.

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Speaker 2: But to your point, I'm being misleading when I say

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Speaker 2: you can't recycle them, because you can recycle them, you

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Speaker 2: just can't put them in your curb side recycling. So

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Speaker 2: what can you do with your milk bottle lids and

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Speaker 2: your ice creaming Daynalds.

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Speaker 3: So literally, just in the last week or two, we

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Speaker 3: now have a caps and lids recycling scheme that the

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Speaker 3: Packaging Forum have launched, and yeah, is really good and

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Speaker 3: I think will actually help a lot of people go oh,

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Speaker 3: I actually can't put those in my recycling will have

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Speaker 3: less contamination in the recyclingments, which would be awesome. So

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Speaker 3: essentially that means at different drop off points, which are

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Speaker 3: a lot of new worlds and packing shaves. You can

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Speaker 3: find kind of your locust local place to drop them

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Speaker 3: off online, but you'll see it often. Decide where the

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Speaker 3: soft plastics is. There will be two other boxes and

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Speaker 3: one of them will be for metal lids, and one

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Speaker 3: of them will be for your plastic lids and so

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Speaker 3: container lids, milk bottle caps, you know it's coke bottle caps,

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Speaker 3: anything like that. You can put those lids in if

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Speaker 3: they are clean and they are dry.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, yeah, that's cool. That's important too. Yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: So it just means another like sorting system at home.

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Speaker 2: And I know that I know that in the hall

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Speaker 2: household you have all sorts of exquisite and well considered

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Speaker 2: sorting systems. But for those of us who perhaps haven't

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Speaker 2: maybe made the kind of progress you have on the

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Speaker 2: recycling front, what would be an easy way just to

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Speaker 2: set up a system at home whereby you're saving these

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Speaker 2: things and then taking them in.

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Speaker 3: So we have been recycling our caps and lids since

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Speaker 3: you know, forever, because we've been taking them to our

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Speaker 3: local recycling center. Now it's just going to be easier

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Speaker 3: because there's more drop off points. So we have a

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Speaker 3: askin container that is under the sink, and that's where

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Speaker 3: we put all our lids in. So yeah, any lids, literally,

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Speaker 3: any lids that goes on top, no matter what it

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Speaker 3: looks like, it's made of plastic or messil, we put

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Speaker 3: it into that container. Yeah, so just like people do

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Speaker 3: with the soft recycling, they take it to the supermarket

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Speaker 3: or you know, put it in your car, and leads

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Speaker 3: are really literally small, and so to be honest, even

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Speaker 3: though we've been taking that to the recycle center, I've

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Speaker 3: probably only had to do it. We obviously were trying

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Speaker 3: to try to reduce.

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Speaker 2: Probably use it anyway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not that Actually I do.

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Speaker 1: Have a.

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Speaker 3: Guilt, but I'm only Yeah, we've probably only had to

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Speaker 3: drop that off, you know, like once, So it's quite

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Speaker 3: good because they are small. I know that sounds like

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Speaker 3: a big deal to have another container there, but if

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Speaker 3: you think, let's go in there and you know, put

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Speaker 3: a label on it. If you have lots of people

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Speaker 3: in your home, tell them about this, you know, let

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Speaker 3: them know and let them know why they shouldn't put

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Speaker 3: it in the recycling because in the recycling just refresher

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Speaker 3: course number one, two and five plastics again, clean and dry,

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Speaker 3: and if they don't have a one, two or five,

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Speaker 3: do not wish cycle them into your recycling. Them is

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Speaker 3: just going to cause havoc. And you can put paper

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Speaker 3: in as long as it's bigger than an envelope kind

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Speaker 3: of rough size. So yeah, you have one ben for

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Speaker 3: your recycling, one bene for your caps and lids, and

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Speaker 3: you can really really good that they are going to

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Speaker 3: the right place and you're not kind of yeah, messing

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Speaker 3: up all of all the recycling systems, especially since you know,

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Speaker 3: we now have this standardized scheme, which means hopefully we

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Speaker 3: can actually be recycling more because our curb side bins

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Speaker 3: aren't so full of the wrong stuff.

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Speaker 2: So okay, I'm just going to reiterate that one more time, one,

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Speaker 2: two and five that's what you can recycle, and give

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Speaker 2: give us the spiel, give us the line again on

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Speaker 2: trying not to use the stuff in the first place,

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Speaker 2: because that's probably the most important message.

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Speaker 3: Well it is. I really I'm always here the tent

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Speaker 3: to talk about recycling, to be honest, because people ask

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Speaker 3: me a lot about it where they say, oh, you'd

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Speaker 3: be so proud of me, Am, I recycled them full,

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Speaker 3: and like, that's great that we've had these recycling schemes.

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Speaker 3: It's great that we've got this new caps and lid scheme,

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Speaker 3: but it needs to be the last resort, so we

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Speaker 3: need to focus on reducing it from the get go.

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Speaker 3: You know our return schemes. Actually my local New World

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Speaker 3: and Fong Flower they now have the Ballavaca glass bottle

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Speaker 3: return scheme. So instead of putting that glass bodel or

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Speaker 3: you know, a plastic bottle into your recycling bin, I

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Speaker 3: actually bring that glass bottle back to New World, pick

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Speaker 3: up the full one, and I get six dollars off

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Speaker 3: six bucks. Yeah, because I've paid for six dollars for

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Speaker 3: that first one. Yeah, I paid six dollars for that bottle,

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Speaker 3: and so then when I return it, yeah, So schemes

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Speaker 3: like that are awesome. So we need to be focusing

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Speaker 3: on supporting those reuse schemes, thinking about how can I

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Speaker 3: actually reduce the amount of recycling I have, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: using and enjoying the recycling schemes properly, but just holding

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Speaker 3: less kind of importance on recycling. I think we'd all

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Speaker 3: do much better off.

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Speaker 2: Great message as per, Thank you so much, Kate. You

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Speaker 2: can find Kate of course on all of the social

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Speaker 2: media platforms to search ethically Kate, and I'm going to

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Speaker 2: give you that website once again. So this is the

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Speaker 2: website if you want to find out where you can

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Speaker 2: go and recycle caps and lids. It's Caps Lids dot,

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Speaker 2: Recycling dot Kiwi dot NZ. And if you don't think

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Speaker 2: you can remember that you haven't scribbled it down, don't stress.

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Speaker 2: We we'll make sure that that website's up on the

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