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Speaker 3: Afternoon. Welcome to the show coming up. Ali Williams on

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Speaker 3: the Stadium and the Halipad and just the tick infometrics

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Speaker 3: of us care about climate change now and Lawyer Liam

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Speaker 3: here on whether the UK ruling on the definition of

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Speaker 3: a woman will affect us. Heather dull Well, as you know,

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Speaker 3: they say God loves a trier, and so I'm guessing

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Speaker 3: that today God loves the Labor Party bookers. Boy, are

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Speaker 3: they trying to talk up the chance of a snap election? Yes,

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Speaker 3: a snap election. They say they are ready to go

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Speaker 3: if there is a snap election. They've called the Electoral

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Speaker 3: they've slipped that info to the media and the media

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Speaker 3: have run it. Labor is ready for a snap election. Now.

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Speaker 3: To be fair to Labor, they didn't start this. New

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Speaker 3: because they let it be known earlier this week that

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Speaker 3: But I mean, the thing about it is that you

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Speaker 3: the reason I'm drawing this to you attention is just

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Speaker 3: to point out this game is boring. I don't think

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Speaker 3: there's going to be a snap election. Do you think

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Speaker 3: I mean, these guys know full well that the chances

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Speaker 3: Voters do not like Shenanigans. And if you are the

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Speaker 3: to be rewarded with it, are you. Now. Obviously why

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Speaker 3: things really are that bad between David and Winston and Chris.

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Speaker 3: But again, whatever the reasons, this is a really boring

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Speaker 3: game to play. When people predicted that Winston would break

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Speaker 3: And chances are that as ready as labor may be,

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Speaker 4: Heather Dupers Alm nine two.

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Speaker 3: Nine two is the text number. Now. The owners of

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Speaker 3: Auckland FC have launched a website showing their plans for

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Speaker 3: there will be zero cost to the rate payer. We've

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Speaker 3: You're a sucker for punishment, aren't you.

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Speaker 5: I am someone say I'm a walking dartboard at the moment,

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Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to deal with your punishment in order.

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Speaker 3: So let's deal with the stadium. Can you assure rate

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Speaker 3: Who's funding it?

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Speaker 6: The good people? And Anna and Bill currently and then

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Speaker 3: Than Anna as and your wife and Bills and Bill Foley.

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Speaker 6: Correct, yes, yeah, yes, I think I think if you

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Speaker 5: I think it comes from passion And if.

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Speaker 6: You look at you know, the two of them, along

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Speaker 6: And when you have the ability to affect something. Then

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Speaker 6: And then so they commit to something like this and

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Speaker 3: Don't we have so many like don't we have too

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Speaker 5: Correct?

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Speaker 6: No, we have Eden Park, which KATUS for forty five,

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Speaker 6: We have North Harbor, but I don't know what that

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Speaker 3: And then we've got a massive cricket ground somewhere as correct.

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Speaker 6: But you've got to remember one hundred percent. But you've

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Speaker 5: It's about the vibe outside.

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Speaker 6: The field, around the field. It's about families feeling comfortable.

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Speaker 6: It's about people being passionate. It's about a community, bringing

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Speaker 6: It's the food and beverage. It's the noise, it's the entertainment,

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Speaker 3: And it's already like a precincts already.

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Speaker 6: And we're saying, well, let's put sport in there as well,

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Speaker 3: Why not go like why bother going through all the

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Speaker 6: I don't know why are we bothered doing a lot

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Speaker 6: why are we doing this white.

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Speaker 3: High a gigantic piece of land and put a stadium

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Speaker 6: Because it doesn't work. Oh, it doesn't work stadiums So

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Speaker 6: unless the council, which we've all gone through that process,

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Speaker 6: be very clear on that. They don't actually make money.

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Speaker 6: It's the whole precinct that we believe can make can

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Speaker 6: be sustainable. Okay, And that's when you sit there football team.

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Speaker 6: Do you think that makes money?

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Speaker 3: Does it not? Lost money on that?

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Speaker 5: No way does it make money.

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Speaker 3: We're having fun, aren't you?

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Speaker 6: One hundred percent? But what are we doing for the community.

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Speaker 6: We've had over two hundred and twenty thousand people through

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Speaker 6: the gate. We believe in Anna and Bill. They believe

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Speaker 6: they're putting a positive influence on people and giving back,

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Speaker 6: and I think that's pretty admirable. I'm just the lucky

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Speaker 3: Out of the the trophy wife forgets to go.

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Speaker 5: I am the trophy one. I do value myself as

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Speaker 5: the best plus one in the game. But look, I

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Speaker 6: We're very, very lucky as a city to have these

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Speaker 6: on that. It needs something like this to really elevate us.

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Speaker 6: I mean, some of the sports people we create, it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: And if you look at it, this is not just

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Speaker 6: And then you look at the other side. It's also

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Speaker 6: part of entertainment. Western Springs is known for its concerts.

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Speaker 6: which will be unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: If you're going to cut the lunch of some people, aren't.

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Speaker 5: You If you do this, what lunch we can't.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you know, like because you know, I mean, I

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Speaker 6: You know, if you look at neck and you see

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Speaker 6: what Nick Saorughton has done with it.

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Speaker 5: Party, he's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty good.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he has promoted this city like no one else.

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Speaker 6: He's told you what an asset we have and he's working.

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Speaker 6: I've communicated with on that and you know, if you

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Speaker 3: They've big gone to him. Listen, question the other thing

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Speaker 5: That all about?

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Speaker 6: Is that all about the good thing we're doing and

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Speaker 6: we want to sort of half half? Or shall we

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Speaker 6: should we do the other thing? What we're actually trying

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Speaker 6: to get is we're actually trying to see and hope

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Speaker 6: that the people of Auckland will get behind this yes

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Speaker 6: and have some voice.

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's your stadium fatigue. Ali, don't you think,

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Speaker 3: well yes, no, yes, no, stadium fatigue. The pictures I

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Speaker 3: hit the website, I thought, geez that.

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Speaker 6: We want people to hit the website Auckland Arena dot

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Speaker 3: Know, but now listen to tell me about this halipad,

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Speaker 3: right are you? I had had a look at the submissions,

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Speaker 3: right you had like ninety one percent post? Are you

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Speaker 3: just depressed at the number of people who want to

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Speaker 3: say no to something like this?

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Speaker 6: Look, we're going through a process with counsel. Yeah, that's simple.

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Speaker 6: And if you know the process, lets people have this, say,

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Speaker 6: let them have.

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Speaker 5: This say, we're not going to take that away.

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Speaker 6: But as I say, we're just going through the process

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Speaker 6: and we were in the hands of the council. So

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Speaker 6: thank you on that question, or you can move to

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Speaker 6: someone else if you.

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Speaker 5: Really want to.

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Speaker 3: We'll leave it there. Ellie listener, I really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much to Tally Williams, co owner of

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Speaker 3: Auckland FC and obviously very passionate about that arena at

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Speaker 3: Z Darcy water Graves sports talk hosters with me.

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Speaker 7: Now, hey, dark, hey headipus.

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Speaker 3: Do we need another stadium? What do you think? Having

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Speaker 3: listened to Ali Williams, well he's.

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Speaker 8: Going to pay for it, I know.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's a good deal, isn't it. Like who

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Speaker 3: else is going to pay in the stadium?

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Speaker 8: How much it'll get used doesn't matter if someone else

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Speaker 8: is following the bill, let him go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Well I know that the Western Springs the Speedway. People

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Speaker 8: are filthy on it, but it's historical things.

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Speaker 3: But it's really the lunch. The lunch, and it's going

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Speaker 3: to cut is not so much eaton parks. It's actually

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Speaker 3: Mount Smart Stadium, isn't it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: But Mount Smart Stadium, with all due respect, is in

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Speaker 8: the middle of an industrial hellscape and it's falling apart. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: it needs a whole lot of investment, and it's not

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Speaker 8: an Again, I think it means extend. I don't think

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Speaker 8: it'll cut the lunch too much of go Media Stadium

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Speaker 8: because it's not a big stadium.

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Speaker 5: They're putting up it.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's what was it? It was two thousand, was

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Speaker 3: five fifteen thousand capacity? What's Mount.

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Speaker 10: Ah?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so maybe they expand it. I'm not sure where

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Speaker 8: it sits, but I think for a trophy, as he said,

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Speaker 8: he's a very good spokesperson.

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Speaker 3: Is how often is Mount Smart actually full full full,

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Speaker 3: full capacity. Would you not be better off having last year?

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Speaker 8: It worked for the Warriors, Yeah, it was only what

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Speaker 8: you know, half there was only.

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Speaker 3: Would you be better off having a fifteen thousand seater

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Speaker 3: stadium always full than Mount Smart which is some of

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Speaker 3: the time full. The question is just whether the punters

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Speaker 3: who like the rugby league would want to go to

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Speaker 3: Western Springs. I imagine it would be actually fine. It's

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Speaker 3: really easy to get to. It's on a motorway, yes.

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Speaker 8: But also parking is at a premium. It's not the

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Speaker 8: easiest place to exit. You to take public transport to

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Speaker 8: fancy digging in another hole from the rail link.

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Speaker 3: I mean the train that's going around around Auckland, the

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Speaker 3: one that we're building.

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Speaker 8: A tunnel and it'll pop up somering.

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Speaker 3: Hey, why is the Wellington Phoenix women's coach acted because.

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Speaker 5: Two year contract?

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Speaker 8: In the contract?

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Speaker 11: Did he have anything?

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Speaker 5: Did he get into any finals?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 8: I think the next question is how does John Carlo

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Speaker 8: for the color? John color the color that's the race

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Speaker 8: car driver. I keeps saying this Italiana. He's the coach.

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Speaker 8: He said a horrible year and his contract is up

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Speaker 8: at the end of this year as well. Did they

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Speaker 8: chop the both of them. I wouldn't like to see that.

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Speaker 8: I think he's a really good coach. He's just had

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Speaker 8: a dark old.

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Speaker 3: What's your problem with calling Rico yuani sabbatical a sabbatical?

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Speaker 8: It's not a sabbatical.

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Speaker 3: Well what is it?

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Speaker 8: He's on loan?

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Speaker 3: Oh well, but tell me what your problem with it is?

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Speaker 8: Well, what's a sabbatical?

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Speaker 5: What is a sabbata?

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Speaker 8: Pphabetic was a rest from your workplace. It's a rest

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Speaker 8: from what you do. It's too to travel to broaden

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Speaker 8: your horizon.

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Speaker 3: Is he going to do? Yeah, but that's he's just

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Speaker 3: traveling in the UK.

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Speaker 8: But that's he's going over there to play rugby.

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Speaker 7: It's not a sabbatical.

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Speaker 3: He's doing the same filming a pedant.

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Speaker 8: No, No, he's doing the same thing. What I should say,

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Speaker 8: guess what? I only going to pay me a whole

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Speaker 8: lod of money to go and play and lens to

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Speaker 8: so I'm going leave, you know what to do?

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Speaker 3: It would be nice? Would you want us to be

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Speaker 3: more honest? Well, letting go? He's not letting Rico go

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Speaker 3: make some dollars so he can keep playing here for cheap.

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Speaker 8: Well, I don't know if he will. He goes away

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Speaker 8: and he comes back. He's a whole of midfielder's coming out.

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Speaker 8: I does he even get his place. It's a big punt.

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Speaker 8: But I'm just saying it's not a rest You're not

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Speaker 8: changing anything. You're just moving your same job to the

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Speaker 8: other side of the world.

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Speaker 3: You're still gonna get smashed. You're chasing the dollars why.

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Speaker 8: Rugby plays, So you're not resting anything. You're just getting

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Speaker 8: beat and you'll get beat up further over there.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Dussy Dusty Water.

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Speaker 8: I said enough, Shall I go now?

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Speaker 3: Yep, Okay, He's gonna be back at seven to say

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Speaker 3: some more for twenty three.

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Speaker 4: Getting the facts, discarding the fluff.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand, let's

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Speaker 1: get connected news talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be hither. The only lunch it's gonna cut is

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Speaker 3: whatever the music events Spark Arena gets or whatever they're

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Speaker 3: calling it nowadays. It's called spark Arena actually, But the

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Speaker 3: difference between I'll tell you what the difference between spa

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Speaker 3: I think if you haven't go and have a look

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Speaker 3: at the website, go and have a look at the website.

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Speaker 3: And now I feel like I've got to tell you

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Speaker 3: what the website is called, so you can go have

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Speaker 3: a look at it. Let me find it for you.

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Speaker 3: Older Auckland Arena dot com. Have a look at Auckland

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Speaker 3: Arena dot com and you'll see it's very like the

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Speaker 3: whole design looks a lot like Mount Sma. So it's

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Speaker 3: more going to cut Mount Smart's lunch than it is

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Speaker 3: going to cut Sparkarna's lunch because Sparkarin is still covered

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Speaker 3: and this one isn't anyway, listen, So apparently we're shifting

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Speaker 3: away from buying utes now. Toyotha reckons that utes are

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Speaker 3: kind of going off the boil with us, and what

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Speaker 3: we're into nowadays more is like a RAV four, and

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Speaker 3: they're basing this on the fact so like lower emissions

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Speaker 3: SUVs and there basing this on the fact that the

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Speaker 3: Rav four has. This happens very rarely that a ute

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Speaker 3: isn't the number one bought vehicle in the country, but

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Speaker 3: in the first quarter of this year it was a

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Speaker 3: Rav four and then it was followed by a couple

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Speaker 3: of utes and Toyosha reckons. What is going on here

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Speaker 3: is that there is a growing awareness among key we

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Speaker 3: drivers of the benefits of fuel efficiency, lower emissions, and

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Speaker 3: cost savings at the pump. Is it Are we moving

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Speaker 3: away from the utes? Because I don't know about you,

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Speaker 3: but I'm moving right into the utes. Like I cannot

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Speaker 3: believe that I've gone this far in my life and

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Speaker 3: I haven't owned the ute. What was I doing with

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Speaker 3: my life? I'm driving a ute at the moment. It's

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Speaker 3: straight up, I'm going to be completely honest with you.

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Speaker 3: BYD gave me a ute to drive. That BYD it

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Speaker 3: spends a bit of money on advertising on the show.

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Speaker 3: And they said you want to drive a ute? And

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Speaker 3: I was like, be rude not to And so I said, well,

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Speaker 3: they said would you like to drive a car? And

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Speaker 3: I said, give me the ute. That's actually how the

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Speaker 3: conversation went. And so they said, okay, yep, cool. So

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Speaker 3: they brought it over on a ship from China. Yep.

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Speaker 3: Really caring about the low emissions at the moment, aren't I?

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Speaker 3: And so anyway, this thing is amazing. How did I

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Speaker 3: go this long without a ute? Why are you not

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Speaker 3: driving a ute? Let me tell you about the benefits

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Speaker 3: of a ute. So I have an SUV when I

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Speaker 3: have both baby car seats in the back. We both

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Speaker 3: parents have our knees against the dashboard and a ute.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, the leak room. You wouldn't believe it. I

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Speaker 3: could probably sit like you're gonna have someone sitting on

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Speaker 3: my lap. We'd have that much that's that much room

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Speaker 3: in the cab of a ute. And the boot space

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Speaker 3: and suv completely overrated. You think you get a lot

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Speaker 3: of stuff in the boot, No way, you don't. You

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Speaker 3: get like two things and then got to shut the door.

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Speaker 3: Loa it on that tray space and a ute. Also listen,

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Speaker 3: somebody said to me, and I don't know if this

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Speaker 3: is true, but if you drive a ute you can

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Speaker 3: park it in loading zones and people think you're a

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Speaker 3: trade and you never get a ticket. Is that true,

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Speaker 3: because if it is, I'm going to try it on

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Speaker 3: nine two ninety two, Thanks very much.

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Speaker 7: News is next time?

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Speaker 4: Ah this lean target.

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Speaker 1: Putting the challenging questions to the people. At the heart

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Speaker 1: of the story, it's hither duplicy Ellen drive with one

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Speaker 1: New zealand let's get connected.

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Speaker 4: The news talks. That'd be.

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Speaker 3: Whether it's a load of rubbish. The new utes aren't

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Speaker 3: being bought because at the moment, the building industry is crap.

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Speaker 3: So that's probably why the raffle at the moment is

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Speaker 3: in the lead. And apparently the raffle is being brought

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Speaker 3: to something like a fleet vehicle at the moment, So

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Speaker 3: that'll explain that as well. Hither a ute and a

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Speaker 3: van are a must. And it's absolutely true that you

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Speaker 3: can park in the loading zone. What you need is

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Speaker 3: a high visit vest hanging on your seat. Cheers Dave.

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Speaker 3: So there's a tip. Hither you can park any vehicle

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Speaker 3: in the loading zone by simply putting your hazard lights on.

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Speaker 3: And Ants was telling me that Paris was a Paris

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Speaker 7: This was a story that went around the school yard

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Speaker 7: when I was a teenager, is that Paris Hilton couldn't

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Speaker 7: find a car park. So what she did was put

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Speaker 7: her hazard lights on and then put the hood of

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Speaker 7: her car up so it looked like there was something

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Speaker 7: shopping or something. I had a party, maybe defaming her

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Speaker 7: because it was school yard.

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Speaker 3: Yet Yeah, but then cat, but but I mean then

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Speaker 3: cat like, that's I'm not saying you should do this.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying that this saying that it happened one

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Speaker 3: time to Paris Hilton and it's not going to drain

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Speaker 3: your battery and it'll be an interesting social experiment. Hither,

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Speaker 3: it's totally okay with the ute parking loading zone since

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Speaker 3: our moronic Wellington City Council reduced the car parks. Whenever

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Speaker 3: I have to go into a Welling car park, welling

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Speaker 3: park on loading zones in my Navara do it all

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Speaker 3: the time. Never had a ticket yet have a great Easter,

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Rick Well. If Rex never had a ticket,

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Speaker 3: then maybe the rest of us will be okay. Well

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Speaker 3: I might, I don't know how much. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how much buid wants me to start doing tests like

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Speaker 3: this with the utes, so I don't know if I will.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, maybe somebody can and can let us know.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to get them in trouble because I'm

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Speaker 3: happy to get in trouble. Moving on swiftly. Inflation is

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Speaker 3: up a little bit now. I'm not particularly worried about

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Speaker 3: this because it's only ticked up to It was expected

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Speaker 3: to come in at two point four, came in at

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Speaker 3: two point five. It's still in the one to three

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Speaker 3: percent band that the Reserve Bank is supposed to keep

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Speaker 3: it in and so it doesn't feel like it's anything

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Speaker 3: to be particularly worried about. I guess the trend is

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Speaker 3: the thing. We can have a chat to Gareth Kennan

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Speaker 3: of Infirmetrics about that after five o'clock. The largest contributor, incidentally,

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Speaker 3: is rent, which went up three point seven percent. While

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Speaker 3: a lot of the inflation. He'll run us through that

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Speaker 3: when he's with us. It's twenty two away from five.

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on youth talks, it'd be drive now.

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Speaker 3: There has been a sell off on Wall Street after

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Speaker 3: some grim words from Federal Reserve chaired Jeromee Powell. Powell

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Speaker 3: said in a very polite and professional way that President

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Speaker 3: Trump's tariffs could create a little bit of an economic messine,

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Speaker 3: so there's going to be a little bit of a

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Speaker 3: job for the Fed to clean up.

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Speaker 12: Tariffs are highly like feature generated at least a temporary

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Speaker 12: rise in inflation. The inflationary effects could also be more persistent.

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Speaker 12: Our obligation is to keep longer term inflation expectations well

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Speaker 12: anchored and to make certain that a one time increase

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Speaker 12: in the price level does not become an ongoing inflection problem.

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Speaker 3: Now over the ditch. Commentators are calling the first election

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Speaker 3: debate or it's actually the second election debate between Albo

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Speaker 3: and Peter Dutton, and a draw albow got caught out

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Speaker 3: on the issue of negative gearing changes.

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Speaker 13: Anthony, your government is modeled negative gearing changes NCGT change.

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Speaker 4: The Treasurer has done that. That's not right.

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Speaker 5: Was it modeled?

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Speaker 11: It certainly wasn't commissioned by.

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Speaker 7: Us to do so.

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Speaker 4: It was modeled by the government.

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Speaker 13: It's publicly available that this Prime Minister has a problem

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Speaker 13: with the.

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Speaker 3: True Murriold's on that. Shortly, and finally, the argument is

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Speaker 3: kicked off in Romania about how many bears are in

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Speaker 3: the country. So a recent study of DNA samples reckons

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Speaker 3: that there are probably about thirteen thousand brown bears in Romania.

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Speaker 3: Now that is five thousand more than they thought that

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Speaker 3: there were. The government has argued that this means it

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Speaker 3: can safely start culling the bears so they don't attack people.

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Speaker 3: But then the environmentalists are unhappy about this. They dispute

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Speaker 3: the accuracy of the new study and they only want

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Speaker 3: the government to kill specific bear rather problem bears.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: With us out of Australia's Murriolds Ozzie correspondent.

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Speaker 2: Heymus afternoon, do you have it?

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Speaker 3: Would you call it a draw?

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Speaker 14: Look?

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Speaker 2: I could earn his stomach the first half of it.

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Speaker 2: I turned off. I mean, please, you know, it's like please.

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Speaker 9: I couldn't.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't bear it. I mean, neither stuffed up, neither

483
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Speaker 2: was able to dominate the rival plans for fixing the

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Speaker 2: housing crisis. I mean, cost of living is still the

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Speaker 2: number one issue here. And these rival plans for fixing housing,

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Speaker 2: trying to help young people into their first home, labor

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Speaker 2: offering low deposits and building brand new homes that will

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Speaker 2: be reserved for first home buyers. The opposition policy to

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Speaker 2: allow young people to access the superannuation to buy a home.

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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton opened and closed by using the liner you're

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Speaker 2: better off now than you were three years ago. The

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Speaker 2: arts is probably no and albanize, he said. In times

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Speaker 2: of strive, trust the mob you've got rather than the

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Speaker 2: clowns on the other side. You get this sense that

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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton in the Opposition really haven't either. They haven't

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Speaker 2: hit first gear a top gear yet, or they've got

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Speaker 2: nothing else to give because the whole opposition campaign has

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Speaker 2: really been a bit haphazard, a lack of any policy detail.

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Speaker 2: You've got big question marks they have for Peter Dutton

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Speaker 2: in terms. Well, he admitted in the debate last night

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Speaker 2: he got it wrong by verbaling the Indonesian president about

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Speaker 2: these You know, the Russian planes may be based in Papua,

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Speaker 2: and you know you had the policy flip flop on,

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Speaker 2: you know, working from home and sacking public servants. You

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Speaker 2: just get the sense that people are saying, you know what,

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Speaker 2: we are in trouble times and the other mob really

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Speaker 2: doesn't look as though it's ready to govern. It's I

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Speaker 2: mean the countdowns on May the third is the election

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Speaker 2: and the opposition is running out of time to try

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Speaker 2: and get a bit of momentum.

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Speaker 3: How much is ORCS going to cost?

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Speaker 2: Oh god knows. I mean it was three hundred and

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Speaker 2: seventy eight billion dollars that when it was signed. Now

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Speaker 2: we're already at four hundred billion in counting. And it's

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Speaker 2: a very interesting study here. I mean, these are submarines.

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Speaker 2: The first is not supposed to get here until in

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Speaker 2: the twenty thirties, the last of them not till the

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Speaker 2: twenty sixties, and we're already spending money hand over. If

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Speaker 2: there's so much money. There's been a study out by

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Speaker 2: a military think tank over here that says, basically, what's

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Speaker 2: happening the huge spend on these nuclear submarines that are

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Speaker 2: yet to be designed, never mind built and then delivered.

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Speaker 2: We haven't got the crews for the existing submarines. We've

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Speaker 2: gotten our old school. The whole orchestra budget for submarines

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Speaker 2: is distorting the rest of the defense spend. Donald Trump's

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Speaker 2: there in Washington demanding allies up there spending on defense.

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Speaker 2: Australia is shoveling money across to the United States for

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Speaker 2: these submarines. And what that's doing, according to this defense

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Speaker 2: think tank, it is taking capacity away from arguably the

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Speaker 2: strike arm of what Australia's got to offer, and that's

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Speaker 2: the air force. All sorts of aerial ordinance is it's

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Speaker 2: being invented. Every year, there's something new to spend money on.

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Speaker 2: Drones are the big thing. Of course, we're looking at

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Speaker 2: that Europe right now, aren't we. And so the argument

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Speaker 2: is are we spending two much the Greens over here

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Speaker 2: for the election campaign either or saying bloody no, we're not.

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Speaker 2: We should can to aucas now it's just a waste

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Speaker 2: of money. We may never ever see a benefit.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, Hey, thanks very much, maus really appreciate. As Murray

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Speaker 3: Old's Australia corresponds, Listen, it's not every day that I

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Speaker 3: think that Horney Hardewader deserves praise, but today is the

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Speaker 3: day that I think he deserves praise because Horney Hart

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Speaker 3: Awedter has done something that nobody else up to now

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Speaker 3: has done, and he's gone and told off this clown

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Speaker 3: who who thought he was clever to be hassling Casey Costello. Now,

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Speaker 3: if you haven't caught up on this, I'll give you.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you a rundown on this before the end

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Speaker 3: of the hours so that you can kind of form

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Speaker 3: your own opinion on it. But for now, just know

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Speaker 3: that that Honey Hadwater is the unlikely hero in the story.

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Speaker 3: We'll get back to it. Seventeen away from five Politics.

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Speaker 1: With Centrics Credit check your customers and get payments certainty r.

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Speaker 3: It's fourteen away from five and Thomas Coglan, the Herald's

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Speaker 3: political editors with us a Thomas. So, Labour's done what

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Speaker 3: they should have done yesterday and they finally shot down

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Speaker 3: this ridiculous idea from the Marti Party.

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Speaker 4: Year.

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Speaker 13: Yes they have this so yeah, you recall yesterday there

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Speaker 13: was the speaking the Marti Party has a policy of

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Speaker 13: giving the superannuation payment to maori seven to ten years

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Speaker 13: earlier to account for the fact that mary life expectancy

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Speaker 13: is about seven years less than everyone else. Labor wasn't

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Speaker 13: rolling it out yesterday. They've they've subsequently done so today

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Speaker 13: and I mean, yeah, like we said yesterday, Labor was

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Speaker 13: never going to agree to this policy that it's about

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Speaker 13: four billion dollars a year. Brad Olsen reckins, there was

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Speaker 13: no chance in hell that that was ever going to happen.

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Speaker 13: But for whatever reason yesterday Labor wasn't ruling it out.

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Speaker 13: And I think they've seen the reaction to the policy

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Speaker 13: and subsequently done so today. But I think it probably

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Speaker 13: bodes ill for the next few few, well a couple

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Speaker 13: of years leading up to the election, that they're not

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Speaker 13: able to move fast on stuff like this. They really

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Speaker 13: need to get their get their act together and just

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Speaker 13: sort of kill these these sort of negative policies faster Thomas.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it quite simple like that their default default position

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Speaker 3: on anything that comes from the mar Party should be

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Speaker 3: to poop poo it, Because when was the last time

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Speaker 3: you heard an idea from the Maru Party there was

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Speaker 3: a good idea?

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Speaker 13: I mean, yeah, gosh, you got me straight scratchical head there.

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Speaker 13: I mean the last one I was, I was, I

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Speaker 13: think you you did on the show last year are

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Speaker 13: the two hundred billion dollar capital gains tax over six years.

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Speaker 13: It's stuff like that that the Maori Party's weakness is

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Speaker 13: really in that policy area. I mean, on the on

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Speaker 13: the election campaign, taker Toperis was talking about having separate

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Speaker 13: Maori trade deals and you know how that would work?

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Speaker 13: Would you have separate border agents customs agents for goods

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Speaker 13: that were being imported and exported by Marii. It's just

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Speaker 13: that the policy space is really not And then if

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Speaker 13: you've got this Treaty Commissioner idea, which even the Malori

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Speaker 13: Party doesn't seem seem to be on the same.

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Speaker 3: Page, soon maybe the Labor Party just needs to adopt

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Speaker 3: a line like, look, the Maru Party means well, but

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Speaker 3: probably that's not how it's going to work, and then

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Speaker 3: stick to something like that just like gently shoot it

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Speaker 3: down right instead of even being seen to entertain it.

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Speaker 13: I mean the gently you've hit upon the gently issue

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Speaker 13: as the as the issue of long current polling, Like,

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Speaker 13: Labor's looking pretty competitive for twenty twenty six and obviously

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Speaker 13: that the key component of that though is the Malori

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Speaker 13: Party and the Marketi Party is going to be in

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Speaker 13: Parliament in twenty twenty six. They're going to win a

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Speaker 13: lot of those Maori seats. Yeah, And so there's really

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Speaker 13: no there's no, there's no question about it. If laborants

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Speaker 13: to form a government, they have to have a good

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Speaker 13: relationship with the Maori Party, and you've seen them in

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Speaker 13: the House. They can get pretty volatile and obviously the

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Speaker 13: President John tammahead a good relationship with Willie Jackson, but

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Speaker 13: a lot of beef with the Labor Party.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of this business, Labor talking up

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Speaker 3: the chances of a snap election Nonsense, isn't it?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: I think it's I think it's. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 13: begrudge Kieran McInulty for for for talking it up. You've

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Speaker 13: got to, you know, you've got to stir the pot

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Speaker 13: a wee bit and certainly certainly at the moment. Whenever

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Speaker 13: you have a wee bit of a bust up occurring

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Speaker 13: within the coalition, and it happens from time to time,

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Speaker 13: Labour's got to get in there and fan the flames

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Speaker 13: a little bit. That's what an opposition does. But I

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Speaker 13: don't I don't think it is likely that was going

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Speaker 13: to see a snap election. Happy to have your go

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Speaker 13: on my face in a few months time for it occurs,

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Speaker 13: but it doesn't sound like it's happening, Noah.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. Okay, now, So, so, Nicola Willis

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Speaker 3: is still having a crack at the Reserve Bank, is she?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, she is so so she came out today and

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Speaker 13: obviously you had on your show yesterday trying to get

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Speaker 13: to the bottom of this two hundred billion dollar budget

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Speaker 13: for twenty twenty five. Now, the Reserve Bank got to

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Speaker 13: me yesterday evening and said that the two hundred billion

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Speaker 13: dollars that is budgeted for this year that is actually

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Speaker 13: then spending or being forecast to spend fifty million dollars

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Speaker 13: that they had saved over the last couple of years

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Speaker 13: five years now. Obviously, Nicola Willis would probably have preferred

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Speaker 13: them if they'd saved that fifty million dollars to actually

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Speaker 13: return it to the government so that we don't have

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Speaker 13: to borrow it in the first place, but instead the

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Speaker 13: Reserve Bank plans to spend it.

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Speaker 3: How do you just find fifty million dollars worth of

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Speaker 3: stuff to spend money on?

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Speaker 7: That is a very good question.

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Speaker 13: It looks like it has gone to a bit of

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Speaker 13: a staff higher up, and yeah, I mean it's it

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Speaker 13: is it is.

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Speaker 3: Well, no wonder they needed to increase their budget, because

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Speaker 3: it's not like your higher staff for one year, is it.

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Speaker 3: If you blow for million on staff this year, you're

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Speaker 3: going to need the same amount of staff next year.

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Speaker 13: And yes, Bromium precisely. And to put that in perspective,

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Speaker 13: in twenty nineteen, the last year of the Bill English

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Speaker 13: Funding Agreement, fifty million dollars was enough for the whole

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Speaker 13: Reserve Bank's budget that they used to run the whole bank.

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Speaker 13: And now it's just a sort of bolt on the site.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of money. Thomas, jeez, I'll tell you, okay, mate, listen,

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Speaker 3: thank you very much. You go and have yourself a

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Speaker 3: lovely Easter holiday. That's Thomas Colin, The Herald's Political Leeddits.

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Speaker 3: We will get back to Horney. How to we are

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Speaker 3: ten away from five putting the.

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Speaker 4: Tough questions to the newspeakers. The mic asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 15: So for the first time a health minister's put a

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Speaker 15: price on renewing the sector's facilities, twenty billion dollars as

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Speaker 15: your built, Health Minister Simeon Brown with us.

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Speaker 16: And there's been decades of under investment in our health infrastructure,

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Speaker 16: particularly in our regional hospitals, and so we've put together

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Speaker 16: a long term plan to look at what investments needed

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Speaker 16: over that time, Prame and also engage with the private sector.

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Speaker 15: Work us through the logistics of that. I'm an equity fund.

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Speaker 15: You come to meet for some money, I say, I've

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Speaker 15: got it. What do I get for investing in the

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Speaker 15: health sector.

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Speaker 17: Well, if there's a.

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Speaker 16: Range of different funding and financing models. Obviously there's things

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Speaker 16: like public private partnerships, there could be long term lease arrangements,

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Speaker 16: there could be a whole range of different funding and

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Speaker 16: financing options on the table.

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Speaker 15: Back Tuesday from six am, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 15: the Rain Driver of the LAE News talk zb.

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Speaker 3: Are we doing Easter this year? Because I just had

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Speaker 3: to look at the n Z. I mean obviously sorry

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Speaker 3: to the rest of the country. But all I care

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Speaker 3: about is the roads in Auckland because I live in Auckland.

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Speaker 3: So I'm thinking, like, what's the traffic, like, how to

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Speaker 3: look at the cameras on the n ZTA. Looks fine,

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Speaker 3: looks like it doesn't It's not even as busy as

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Speaker 3: you standard Friday, which is what this counts as. Today

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Speaker 3: is like normal Fridays are busier than Easter Thursday, by

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Speaker 3: the looks of things. So it looks to me like

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Speaker 3: we've all listened to the met service and freaked out

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Speaker 3: and decided we're not going to go away for the weekend.

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Speaker 3: So is that what we're doing. I don't know about you,

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Speaker 3: but I'm did I have I told you that I'm

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Speaker 3: driving a you to the moment. I'm taking that puppy out.

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Speaker 3: I'm taking her out for the weekend. I don't care

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Speaker 3: if it's raining or snowing. I don't care if it's

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Speaker 3: a bloody cyclone. We're going to go out in the

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Speaker 3: U We're going to take it for drive. But it

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Speaker 3: would appear that everybody's been talked out at the holiday,

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Speaker 3: isn't it, and we're all staying put for the most part,

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Speaker 3: it's five away from five now how to wear it?

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Speaker 3: So the reason I think Corner how to Wedder deserves

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Speaker 3: praises because he's told this chap off. This chap's name

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Speaker 3: is Peter Hudawai Seeger. He was on the Mardi Party's

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Speaker 3: list for twenty twenty three. I don't know if you're

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Speaker 3: aware of it, but they had some interesting characters on

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Speaker 3: that list, and Pee is one of them. So Peter

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Speaker 3: rocks up at the Wellsford Food Court on Tuesday and

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Speaker 3: lo and behold if all of Peter's Christmas is having

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Speaker 3: come at once. But there is Casey Costello, the she

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Speaker 3: devil herself to pere obviously, I mean for most of us,

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Speaker 3: most of us we just look at her and be like,

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Speaker 3: oh yep, cabinet minister. He's like evil. So he goes

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Speaker 3: I don't I think he's there for sushi. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: She hasn't been he hasn't been clear about what she's eating,

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Speaker 3: but she's trying to have her dinner. And he goes

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Speaker 3: up to her and starts giving her a hard time

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Speaker 3: and says, now you're gonna get it from him verbally,

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Speaker 3: and she says at some stage look, can you just

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Speaker 3: buger off? You're being a pain in the arse. And

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Speaker 3: he's having a crack at her for you know, selling

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Speaker 3: out mar or whatever whatever whatever has grievances, and she says,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to call the cops, and appears to call

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Speaker 3: the cops, and he heads off and buys himself some sushi,

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Speaker 3: and then he comes back because he hasn't had enough

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Speaker 3: of her, and he keeps on hassling her some more.

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Speaker 3: Now this clown actually then go The reason we know

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Speaker 3: about it is not because Casey has a winge in

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Speaker 3: public about what's happened. It's because Peter thinks what he's

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Speaker 3: done is awesome, and he goes on his Facebook page

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Speaker 3: and tells us all about it, and he's super proud

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Speaker 3: of himself for what he's done, and apparently nobody thinks.

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Speaker 3: I kind of looked at this and thought, no, I'm

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Speaker 3: interested to see whether this action becomes a media story,

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Speaker 3: because do we care about this? For various reasons, I

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Speaker 3: didn't think it was going to be a media story.

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Speaker 3: Sure enough, nobody really reported on it, because apparently normal

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Speaker 3: now that we has allow cabinet ministers. But then Hornet,

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Speaker 3: Hornet pipes up good on him. He says, it's done

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Speaker 3: a Facebook comment to Petty just to put this bloke

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Speaker 3: in his place. He says, I'm not the biggest fan

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Speaker 3: of Casey Costello, but I don't like you pushing yourself

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Speaker 3: into a woman's space and don't like you telling her

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Speaker 3: she's gonna get it. Pat yourself on the back if

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Speaker 3: you think that makes you a big man, but don't

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Speaker 3: try that on me or more my wife. Now look

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Speaker 3: rich with irony because we know what Horne has been

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Speaker 3: up to in the past. But quite like the fact

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Speaker 3: that he's told Peter off, and maybe Peter will ever

752
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Speaker 3: listen to somebody a little bit older than him and

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Speaker 3: think about not doing that next time, and not being

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Speaker 3: proud of being a clown, like there's nothing to be

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Speaker 3: proud of in that particular instance. And thoughts and prayers

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Speaker 3: to Casey having to deal with idiots like this. Now,

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Speaker 3: in the UK there has been a significant ruling on

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Speaker 3: what a woman is and the UK Supreme Court has

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Speaker 3: decided that a woman is a woman and a trans

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Speaker 3: woman is not a woman. For the purposes of this

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Speaker 3: particular piece of legis. It's very very tightly defined by

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Speaker 3: the looks of things, A lot of people are going

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Speaker 3: to be like, oh look you know, and jump on

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Speaker 3: it and turn this into a culture war thing. Is

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Speaker 3: it a culture war thing? Is it a very very

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Speaker 3: specific ruling? Is it going to affect us in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk to lawyer Liam here about that,

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Speaker 3: so after half past five. Also, there are some polling

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Speaker 3: out that suggests that we don't care about climate change

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Speaker 3: quite as much as we did just a couple of

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Speaker 3: years ago. In according to IPSOS twenty three, it was

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Speaker 3: eighty percent of us who've cared about the impact of

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Speaker 3: climate change on New Zealand. Now it's down to only

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Speaker 3: sixty nine percent. We can have a chat to the

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Speaker 3: Greens about that and see how they feel about that

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Speaker 3: and why we don't care anymore. News talks, they'd be

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Speaker 3: Inflation is next?

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Speaker 4: Does get up a fuffing?

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Speaker 3: She said this life.

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Speaker 4: Forever, so you to get through. Then let's play it over.

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Speaker 4: We can dance.

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Speaker 18: We can dance on nine.

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Speaker 1: Digging through the spen spence to find the real story.

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Speaker 4: Sory.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather duperc on drive with one New Zealand. Let's

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Speaker 1: get connected.

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Speaker 4: News talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be a good afternoon. Inflation has ticked up again.

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Speaker 3: It's coming at two and a half percent in the

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Speaker 3: first three months of the year. Gareth Kennan is Infametrics

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Speaker 3: chief forecast to Gareth, Hello, Hi, Heather. Now this is

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Speaker 3: only marginally higher than what was forecast, right, it was

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Speaker 3: forecast to coming at two point four. It's coming at

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Speaker 3: two point five. Is this worth worrying about?

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Speaker 4: Look, it's just the.

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Speaker 19: Sort of general sentiment and direction of travel that we're

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Speaker 19: a little bit concerned about. At the moment, there were

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Speaker 19: already expectations that inflation was going to be picking up

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Speaker 19: through the course of this year to some degree. A

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Speaker 19: Reserve Bank has I think it peaking at two point

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Speaker 19: seven percent.

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Speaker 4: Later this year.

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Speaker 19: I guess the issue really is that we've come from

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Speaker 19: a period of very high inflation over the last few years,

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Speaker 19: and the Reserve Bank has only just regaining its inflation

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Speaker 19: fighting credibility. So there'll be, you know, some concerns there that,

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Speaker 19: you know, if we're too slow off the mark again

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Speaker 19: or a little bit too relaxed about how inflation is going,

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Speaker 19: then you know, where do we end up in eighteen

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Speaker 19: months time.

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Speaker 3: Although on the other hand, Gareth, the consensus appears to

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Speaker 3: be growing that what's going on with the tariffs will

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Speaker 3: drop inflation back down.

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Speaker 19: Right, Yeah, Look, it's pretty ambiguous at the moment. I

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Speaker 19: think the general sentiment, you're right, seems to be pushing

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Speaker 19: in the direction of a disinflationary pressure. So less inflation

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Speaker 19: in the system because weaker world growth, less demand means

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Speaker 19: they'll be sort of more discounting going on and products

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Speaker 19: available more cheaply. But at the same time, there is

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Speaker 19: still pockets of the sort of lingering price pressure. Before

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Speaker 19: the tariffs that were out coming out, there was concerns

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Speaker 19: about American inflation just holding up a bit more strongly,

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Speaker 19: and we know there will be some cost pressures that

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Speaker 19: do rise because of the changing trade situation. So it's mixed,

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Speaker 19: But you're right, the sentiment is pushing towards maybe a

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Speaker 19: little less inflation from the tariffs.

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Speaker 5: As a result.

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Speaker 3: We had am Z yesterday saying that they thought the

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Speaker 3: OCR which is sitting at three point five at the moment,

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Speaker 3: is going to bottom out at two point five. Would

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Speaker 3: you agree with that.

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Speaker 19: Our forecast at the moment is for the OCR to

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Speaker 19: get down to three percent over the next three months,

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Speaker 19: but we think the Reserve Bank does need to just

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Speaker 19: sort of take a cautious approach and see how the

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Speaker 19: data unfolds beyond that as to whether further rate cuts

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Speaker 19: are possible. If inflation comes in and it's more below

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Speaker 19: expectation and coming quarters, there will be more room to cut.

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Speaker 19: But at the moment it is a mixed situation. I

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Speaker 19: think the reality is the Bank's core mandate is keeping

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Speaker 19: inflation under control. Yes, we know that prospects around economic

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Speaker 19: growth are weakening and softening as a result of the

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Speaker 19: global situation, but that's not their core mandate. It's effectively inflation.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now listen, I'm on the GDP growth. I see that

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Speaker 3: you guys have gone from forecasting for next year GDP

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Speaker 3: growth of two point four percent down now to one percent.

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Speaker 3: That's a reasonably significant reduction. Do you think that this

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Speaker 3: is I mean, are we now at the point where

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Speaker 3: Nicola Willis needs to start thinking very carefully in preparing

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Speaker 3: this budget.

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Speaker 19: Well so, certainly on the revenue side of you experiencing

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Speaker 19: economy that's growing at one percent rather than close to

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Speaker 19: two and a half percent, that does have implications on

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Speaker 19: the tax site. I don't know if it's going to

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Speaker 19: make too much difference on the other side of the equation,

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Speaker 19: because we know that those that fiscal position is very

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Speaker 19: tight for the government. They're running a surplus for the

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Speaker 19: next four a deficit for the next four or five years.

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Speaker 19: Surplus is nowhere to be seen, and so it's difficult

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Speaker 19: for them to offer a great deal of support for

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Speaker 19: the economy. Obviously they've talked a lot about infrastructure. That's great,

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Speaker 19: but it's also not something that necessarily stimulates a lot

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Speaker 19: of economic activity, particularly quickly.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff here, Gareth, thanks so much, appreciate it. Happy Easter.

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Speaker 3: Gareth Kennan of Informetric's chief forecaster.

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Speaker 4: The duplessy ellen KiwiRail.

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Speaker 3: Has been ordered to pay compensation to fairy passengers after

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Speaker 3: a bunch of cancelations back in twenty twenty three. Now,

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Speaker 3: what happened back then was that the company said no

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Speaker 3: to reimbursing anyone. Now the Commerce Commission has told it

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Speaker 3: needs to cough up. Adele Wilson is Kirail's chief customer

873
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 3: and growth officer. Hey, Adel, hi here, how are you.

874
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: I'm well, thank you. I imagine you want to get the

875
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 3: apology out of the way.

876
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 17: I certainly do.

877
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

878
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 17: Look, we've the incidents in early twenty twenty three precedented

879
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 17: disruption impacted thousands of people and we got it wrong.

880
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 17: And look, I really do just want to unreservedly apologize

881
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 17: to all New Zealanders who were impacted by that disruption,

882
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 17: and more so by our decision to delay compensation at

883
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 17: the time. We know that caused a lot of stress,

884
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 17: and yeah, it's a huge sorry to all of those people.

885
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 3: Okay, so how much do you think you're going to

886
00:37:58,840 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: have to end up paying?

887
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 17: Look, we don't have a really a view on the

888
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 17: total amount. We so far have contacted over one hundred

889
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 17: and ninety people and have a doubt whether one hundred

890
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 17: and twenty claims to date, and the amount of those

891
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 17: claims has very hugely depending on what people's circumstances were

892
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 17: at the time. So look, there's no cap on it.

893
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 17: We're just taking it as it comes and looking at

894
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 17: each claim, claim by claim.

895
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: What's the highest value you're going to pay out?

896
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 17: So far, it's Look, it's ranged from claims in the

897
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 17: thousands of dollars down to just people saying, oh, just

898
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 17: the price of my ticket is.

899
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: Because it's it's not just the tickets that you're refounding, right,

900
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 3: is it also things like accommodation flights to replace blah

901
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: blah blah.

902
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 17: Yes, yes, exactly. It's the reasonable cost that people incurred

903
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 17: as a result of the disruption, and the unusual thing

904
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 17: about these disruptions, whether it was rolling and then as

905
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 17: we were trying to catch up the schedule, we had

906
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 17: another event and so things overlapped and people who'd been rebooked,

907
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 17: unfortunately some of them were delayed again. So there are

908
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 17: some high costs that we're looking at that people incurred.

909
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Adele, are you planning to change the way

910
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: that you do this in the future, like no repeat

911
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 3: of the same type of thing.

912
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 17: Absolutely, So we've made several changes. The big change we've

913
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 17: made is to our rules. What we used to do

914
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 17: with mechanical events is we waited until the investigation was

915
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 17: finished to see whether the event was inside our control

916
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 17: or outside our control. And what that meant is people

917
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 17: have had to wait for a very long time, and

918
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 17: of course in this case, we also gave confusing messages

919
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 17: about whether they would ever get compensation. So we're not

920
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 17: going to do that anymore. Mechanical events, We're going to

921
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 17: treat those as though they within our control unless the

922
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 17: clear it's very clear at the time and it wasn't

923
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 17: and we're going to pay people their compensation immediately so

924
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 17: that they can get on and make their other plans

925
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 17: and sort themselves out.

926
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Speaker 3: Adele, thanks very much, look after yourself. That's a Dale Wilson,

927
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 3: Keirel's chief customer and growth officer.

928
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 4: Together do for see Allen, We're going to talk to the.

929
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: Greens about the climate.

930
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 8: Very sure.

931
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 3: They also have to tell I have to tell you

932
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 3: about the gas situation. But listen very quickly, just a

933
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 3: heads up. Keep an eye out tomorrow for any news

934
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 3: on Mark Lundy Blast from the past. But Mark Lundy's

935
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 3: been before the parole board today and this is actually

936
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: Mark's third time appearing before the parole board. Obviously times

937
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: one and two they said no, we're not letting you out,

938
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 3: and mainly they said no, we're not letting you out

939
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 3: because he was like, I didn't do it, I'm innocent,

940
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: and often they don't like that. They like you to

941
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 3: admit that you're guilty and then sort of like say

942
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: you're sorry and stuff, and then they let you out. Anyway,

943
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: So it's a third time appearing before the parole board.

944
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 3: If they decide if they make a decision as to

945
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 3: whether to let them out or not, which I'm assuming

946
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: they're going to have to, because what's the point of

947
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 3: the appearance unless they make it decision. They are likely

948
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: to release that decision tomorrow, so keep an eye. I mean,

949
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 3: what are the chances that he gets out. The guy's

950
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 3: been in for twenty three years, and as I say,

951
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: trouble thus far has been not admitting admitting his guilt.

952
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: So it'll be it'll be absolutely. I mean, if he

953
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 3: doesn't get out, that's the same if it gets out.

954
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: Interesting quarter past. Hey, let me tell you about the

955
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: Bid Shark six. This is the cool new yute that's

956
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 3: been released by Bid.

957
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 13: Now.

958
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: I've been driving this ute for a week now, and

959
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 3: let me tell you it is going to be hard

960
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 3: to make me give this ute back because it is fantastic.

961
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: It's a hybrid. But you don't need to worry about

962
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 3: range anxiety because you've got a cool eight hundred k range.

963
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 3: Eighty of that is electric. It's enough to get you

964
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: around the city wherever you live, and then you can

965
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: hit the petro if you need to go further than that.

966
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 3: If you're a trady, you're gonna love the fact that

967
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 3: you've got three point plugs in the back to run

968
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: your gear off. If you're a boty, you're gonna love

969
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: the fact that this can actually toe up to two

970
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: and a half thousand cages. And if you're a mum

971
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: like me, you're gonna love the space. Heaps of leg

972
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 3: room inside the cab, heaps of gear space in the

973
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 3: tray for all of the gear, and three year old boys,

974
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 3: it turns out, love utes so very easy to get

975
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 3: them into the car. It's got three hundred and sixty

976
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 3: degree cameras to help you park censors everywhere and a

977
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: five star and cap rating. You can drive away in

978
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 3: one from just sixty nine nine hundred and ninety dollars

979
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 3: plus on road cost. So check it out. Go to

980
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 3: byd Auto dot co dot.

981
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 4: Nz for ever out.

982
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: Either. If Mark Lundy gets out, he's going to be

983
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: shocked how crap New Zealand is now. He might well

984
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: get out and so actually can I go back in

985
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 3: because I don't like the state of the place. Nineteen

986
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: past five? Now New Zealanders are getting a little bit apathetic,

987
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 3: it turns out when it gets it comes to climate change.

988
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: According to a recent survey by IPSOS eighty percent of

989
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: us were worried about the effects of climate change on

990
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: the on New Zealand back in twenty twenty three, but

991
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 3: that number is now down to sixty nine percent. Now

992
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 3: Lane Farm is the Green Party spokesperson for the environment

993
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: and with us. Now, Hey, lan Cure, he was just depressing.

994
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 3: I'm well, thanks, mate. Is this depressing for you?

995
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 20: I think I think it's really sad, but it's unfortunately

996
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 20: not surprising.

997
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 18: No.

998
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 20: Communities are really struggling at the moment, and it's hard

999
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 20: for people to think of the future when they're actually

1000
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 20: having to focus on surviving the cost of living crisis.

1001
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 3: Yes, is true. I also thought eighty percent of us

1002
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 3: worried about the effects of climate change in twenty twenty

1003
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: three is probably an indication that we had Cyclone Gabriel

1004
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: hit the ESQ value and we were told it was

1005
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 3: about climate change in twenty twenty three, don't you think?

1006
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 20: Yeah, and it's still coming. I mean, we know what's happening,

1007
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 20: you know, thinking of the communities up north right now,

1008
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 20: climate change is absolutely here and unfortunately, you know, we're

1009
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 20: going to see increasing impacts.

1010
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: Do you think that that many of us actually care?

1011
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 3: I mean I look at another of it says the

1012
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: number of Kiwis who think we should be doing more

1013
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 3: about the climate has gone from sixty four percent to

1014
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 3: fifty four percent over the last year. But I wonder

1015
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 3: how many of those numbers are real and where they're

1016
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 3: actually All that happens is you feel like you have

1017
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: to say you care about the climate when you're asked

1018
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 3: by a survey, but for the most part, you don't

1019
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 3: care and you just catch your flight to Fiji anyway.

1020
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think what we're saying, Heather is, you know,

1021
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 20: this cost of living crisis is making people think about

1022
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 20: their more immediate future. The thing is, though, with the

1023
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 20: climate crisis and the biodiversity crisis is that even if

1024
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 20: we're not paying attention to it and ignoring it, it's

1025
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 20: not making the problem go away. And we're still going

1026
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 20: to have to take actual action if we're going to

1027
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 20: address it. So that's what we're trying to stay focused on,

1028
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 20: like actually acting now for the future as well as

1029
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 20: addressing what people need today.

1030
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 3: How's it going in the Green Pat Are you guys

1031
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: feeling okay've had a rough run lately.

1032
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 20: Yeah, we're feeling really good. We're actually feeling really determined.

1033
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 20: At the moment, we're working on a budget that we're

1034
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 20: going to be releasing in the next few weeks that

1035
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 20: actually spous out how New Zealand would move towards, you know,

1036
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 20: this actually climate friendly future, which would actually mean you know,

1037
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 20: cheaper costs and better living for everyone.

1038
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 3: Do you know what you could trademark that better living everyone?

1039
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: Haven't heard that before? Hey, thanks very much, Lanfa, that

1040
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 3: could be on the next billboard. You know what, how

1041
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: much did you love the defund the police billboards?

1042
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 4: Then?

1043
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think that was like a really great way

1044
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 20: to draw attention to the fact that we do need

1045
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 20: to have some really serious conversations about justice in this

1046
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 20: country and how you.

1047
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 3: Want to defund the police.

1048
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 20: Lan I really back and agree with what Tabetha was

1049
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 20: saying in terms of, you know, there's a whole bunch

1050
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 20: of agencies out there in our community that would be

1051
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 20: a better place than the police to actually respond to

1052
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 20: the very serious issues that are in our community.

1053
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 3: Cool man, Hey, listen, looking forward to your budget. Can't

1054
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 3: wait to see it, Lan Farm, Green Party spokesperson for

1055
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: the Environment five two.

1056
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: Checking the point of the story, it's hither duplicy Elan

1057
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand, let's get connected and youth dogs.

1058
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: They'd be either honestly, where do these loop heads live?

1059
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 3: That's the Greens which talking about twenty five past five,

1060
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: I've got a lot of time for some Simeon Brown,

1061
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 3: I just feel like I need to say that. I

1062
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: think he's a very good politician. But I feel like

1063
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: Simi and Brown might want to take a little bit

1064
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 3: of advice from Chris Hipkins of all people today because

1065
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: he was once the Health Minister as well, and Simeon

1066
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 3: might just want to tone down the old fighting talk

1067
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 3: because accusing the striking senior doctors of the worst kind

1068
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 3: of politics at our etc. Is really not going to

1069
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: help anyone. The only one, the only thing is going

1070
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 3: to help people right now is actually throw some money

1071
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: at those senior doctors. And I'm sorry, but Simmion Brown,

1072
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 3: for everything that he may feel about how upset he

1073
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: is that they're going on strike, is simply going to

1074
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 3: have to pony up the cash and pay these senior

1075
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: doctors a lot more. Look, I know he's probably on

1076
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 3: the right side of public opinion. This is saman There's

1077
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 3: not going to be a lot of public sympathy for

1078
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 3: doctors who are on the kind of money that they are,

1079
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 3: whether it's three hundred and fifty thousand dollars like he

1080
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 3: says or two hundred and fifty thousand dollars like they say,

1081
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter what they're on, and it doesn't

1082
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 3: really matter whether we think they paid enough or whether

1083
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: we think they paid too much. What matters is what

1084
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: the rest of the world pays, because that is who

1085
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 3: we are competing with for these senior doctors. New South Wales,

1086
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: i've been told, is the part of Australia that pays

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Speaker 3: senior doctors the least, and their starting pay for senior

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Speaker 3: doctors in New South Wales is apparently more than what

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Speaker 3: our senior doctors get when they are on the highest

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Speaker 3: level in New Zealand. And they, by the way, who

1091
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Speaker 3: are paid more than our doctors in New South Wales,

1092
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 3: have just had a three day strike themselves. Now we

1093
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 3: already have such a shortage of senior doctors in this

1094
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 3: country that in Taupo Hospital, the news will tell you today,

1095
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: not even a third of their positions are filled. The

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00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 3: roster is really I don't know how they're running that

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Speaker 3: place on the number of senior doctors they've got. Now,

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Speaker 3: while I appreciate that Sami and Brown is a very

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Speaker 3: good politician, could well end up winning the pr battle

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Speaker 3: against the doctors. Ultimately, it's not the voters that he

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00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 3: has to convince with his good words, it's the doctors

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Speaker 3: with his money. Heather do for see Allen Heather climate change. Please,

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00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 3: it's a per week seasonal storm. Read the room. We

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00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 3: have wised up to your Henny Penny bs to the

1105
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Speaker 3: Green Party. Look, I wouldn't use I've got to be honest.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't use this particular storm as evidence of climate change,

1107
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: would you. I mean it has been like like, I know,

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Speaker 3: the fairies have been canceled in Auckland, and look there's

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00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 3: a big power outage and stuff like. It's kind of annoying,

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00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 3: you know, and it is a bit disruptive. But it's

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00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 3: not the best storm we've seen. We've seen better storms lately,

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Speaker 3: haven't we. We've seen better storms lately. I mean, just

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00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 3: go back two years and think about how Auckland when

1114
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 3: you know, like the water's whooped up up in Auckland.

1115
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Speaker 3: So I feel like this one's a bit of a fizzer,

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Speaker 3: I would say, I would say that actually maybe we

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Speaker 3: could find a better example of climate changes. This one's

1118
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: not going to freak anyone out, but the Greens will

1119
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Speaker 3: be happy because I've got a little bit of good

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Speaker 3: news for them. Genesis, which you know is one of

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Speaker 3: the power companies in the country, has has announced gas

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00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: is no longer a transition fuel. They are going to

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Speaker 3: abandon gas. They reckon that by twenty thirty it's going

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Speaker 3: to be completely gone. And this is exactly what Justinda's

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Speaker 3: government wanted when they did that gas and oil and

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Speaker 3: gas exploration band. So everything's working perfectly for the greenees.

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Speaker 3: This is fantastic news. We've only got another five years

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Speaker 3: to go and gas is gone except switched to cul

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Speaker 3: so Cole it turns out is cheaper and more reliable,

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Speaker 3: and they're not going to use gas anymore. They're just

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Speaker 3: going to burn the black gold. They have got five

1132
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 3: hundred thousand tons stockpiled at Huntley and they have got

1133
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Speaker 3: seven hundred and seventy thousand tons on order over the

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Speaker 3: next six months. Cool news is next.

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Speaker 1: After making the news, the newsmakers talk to Heather first.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplicy Ellen drive with One New Zealand let's

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Speaker 1: get connected news talks that'd beale.

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Speaker 4: Yes and Heather.

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Speaker 3: Actually, how can you believe that there's a climate crisis

1140
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Speaker 3: when the party that's at the forefront of actually fighting

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00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 3: the climate fighters more worried about defending the defunding the

1142
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 3: police and less about the climate. As a fair point

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Speaker 3: of client, Paul, I mean, I think we all know

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00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 3: the Greens have got a little bit off track. By

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00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 3: the way, if we get to before the end of

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Speaker 3: this program, I do want to talk about Chloe. Let

1147
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Speaker 3: me write this down so I don't forget Helloe there.

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Speaker 3: I wrote it on the bit of paper because Chloe.

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Speaker 3: It seems to me that while I was on maternity

1150
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 3: leave having babies, Chloe was having kittens. Well, she can't

1151
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: come out of this whole situation looking good. So we

1152
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 3: have a little chat about that. Perhaps later on we

1153
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 3: got the huddle standing by Morris Williamson and Craig Rennie

1154
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 3: and got some research on how you can have the

1155
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 3: best day of your life ever, like practical practical advice

1156
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 3: on how to structure the best. I'll get that to

1157
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Speaker 3: you shortly is twenty four away from six.

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Speaker 4: Together do for Sea Ali Over in the UK.

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Speaker 3: The Supreme Court has ruled on the definition of what

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Speaker 3: a woman is, and it is ruled that a woman

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Speaker 3: is someone who was born as a biological woman and

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Speaker 3: does not include trans women. Now, the case came about

1163
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: because of a Scottish government plan to include transgender women

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Speaker 3: in quotas with account women on boards and try to

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Speaker 3: get to fifty percent. Liam here is a lawyer and

1166
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Speaker 3: commentator and is with us. Now, Hey, Liam, Hello, Hey,

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Speaker 3: how specific is this ruling? Is this? I mean, is

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Speaker 3: this only about whether you can count where men and

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Speaker 3: trans women on boards to make your quota or is

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Speaker 3: this also going to bleed into other things like where

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Speaker 3: the trans women can play sport and stuff.

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Speaker 18: Well, it's it's wider than that, but not as wide

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Speaker 18: as some people think either. So the legislation involved is

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Speaker 18: the Quality Act, a twenty ten human rights Act, and

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Speaker 18: that is the act of the UK Parliament, not the

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Speaker 18: Scottish Parliament, but applies to the whole of the UK,

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Speaker 18: which is the more the framework that kind of enables

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Speaker 18: you to have these quotas, right, So it applies to

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Speaker 18: anything that comes within the framework of the Quality Act.

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Speaker 18: So that's not just board quotas, that is other things.

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Speaker 18: But it's also not legal it's not throughout the whole

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Speaker 18: of the legal system, right, so it's it's a significant

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Speaker 18: ruling for the purposes of that act, but it's got

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Speaker 18: its boundaries.

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Speaker 3: Would would the boundaries include where the trans women can

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Speaker 3: play sports?

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Speaker 14: Well like that?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, there's certainly our regulations there around sort of female

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Speaker 18: only spaces, and that's certainly one and certainly that's implicated

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Speaker 18: in the Act and that's certainly yeah. So yes, the

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Speaker 18: answer and answer is.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, I mean all practicality, though you can't always

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00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 3: be sure, like how are they actually going to know

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Speaker 3: whether someone who says I'm a woman is actually a

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Speaker 3: biological woman or a trans woman?

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Speaker 18: Well, you know, we've been grappling with that for a

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Speaker 18: long time. You know, the sex testing at the OTEX

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Speaker 18: has to be a big thing. You know sometimes sometimes

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Speaker 18: dore I say, it's more obvious than than other cases.

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Speaker 18: But like everything, you know, like the law relies on

1201
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Speaker 18: people being honest about how they're reporting on things, and

1202
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Speaker 18: you know, people sometimes say that they are things that

1203
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Speaker 18: they're not, and that's not uncommon either. So it's really

1204
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Speaker 18: a question is are you going to get caught out?

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Speaker 18: And secondly, are you're a law or a biding person

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Speaker 18: who obeys the law because it's the right thing to do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Liam, I mean, undoubtedly this is going to be

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Speaker 3: picked up in the culture war and it's going to

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Speaker 3: become part of the ammunition. But in terms of what

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Speaker 3: happens in this country legally, will this affect.

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Speaker 18: Us, No, not certainly, not directly. So we have a

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Speaker 18: separate legal system to the UK. But of course the

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Speaker 18: UK is a jurisdiction that's held in a lot of

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Speaker 18: esteem here, and our laws are you know that a

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Speaker 18: lot of them are modeled on UK laws, and for

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Speaker 18: a long time, you know, we were sort of indirectly

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00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 18: hopped into the UK legal system. So when a judge

1218
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 18: has to make a decision about a question of New

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00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 18: Zealand law, they're entitled to look at something that's been

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Speaker 18: decided in the UK or Australia or Canada and say, look,

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00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 18: this is a similar case. The reasoning here was solid,

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Speaker 18: So I'm sort of persuaded by that reasoning and I'm

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00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 18: going to apply it here. So New Zealand courts could

1224
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 18: easily look at the precedent that's been set in the

1225
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Speaker 18: UK and apply it here too, if they chose to.

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Speaker 18: But we do also have a different judicial culture, as

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Speaker 18: we've seen over the years New Zealand. New Zealand judges

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00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 18: are quite willing to try to update the law or

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Speaker 18: to push the boundaries of the law, and they're probably

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Speaker 18: a little bit less different to the meaning that Parliament

1231
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Speaker 18: intended than the UK courts are. So I wouldn't be

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Speaker 18: I wouldn't be surprised if the New Zealand courts looked

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Speaker 18: at it and said, no, that's not the way you

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Speaker 18: want to go.

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Speaker 3: Interesting. Hellam, thanks very much, really appreciate it. Lim here,

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Speaker 3: lawyer and commentator. Right now twenty away from.

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Speaker 1: Sex the huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the

1238
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: ones with worldwide connections that perform not a.

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Speaker 3: Promise on the huddle this evening got Morris Williams and

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Speaker 3: Auckland councilor obviously former National Party member and Craig Ready

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Speaker 3: of the c to U Chief Economists there. Hello lads,

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Speaker 3: Hi Treva sorry he good to have you back. Hold on,

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00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: did you just call me Trevor?

1244
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Speaker 21: I I did correct myself. I corrected my eyes just

1245
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Speaker 21: picking up the phone because I hadn't had it at

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Speaker 21: my ear.

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00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 3: Is it because it rhymes with Heather or.

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Speaker 21: It probably was. I did not think of you in

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Speaker 21: any way as a Trevor.

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Speaker 3: We're going to write that one on the list of.

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Speaker 21: Names and you can probably get the chromosome tests approve it.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what today I'll identify as Trevor for

1253
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 3: the for the gig was Craig. Craig, you you're bracing

1254
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: yourself for a snap election. You're getting ready? Oh, I'm not.

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Speaker 11: I'm not putting much faith in there being sna election obviously.

1256
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 11: I think everybody, you know, all political parties will want

1257
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 11: to be ready. But I think a lot of that

1258
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 11: is sort of very loose talk. Governments tend to stick

1259
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 11: together much more than they tend to fall apart, so

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Speaker 11: I don't think it's likely that to happen to me.

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Speaker 3: You know, you want to give you a Mat Kieran

1262
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 3: at the Labor Party a call and tell him to

1263
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 3: settle down.

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Speaker 11: Oh, I think he's just pointing out that the party

1265
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 11: is ready for an election if there is going to

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Speaker 11: be one. I think, you know, if Winston Peters wants

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Speaker 11: to call an election and you know, make this a

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Speaker 11: one term government, then fantastic. But in terms of you know,

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Speaker 11: whether or not there will be an election. I really

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Speaker 11: don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so, Morris. Why are they doing this?

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Speaker 3: I mean, why on earth are the likes of the

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00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 3: Labor Party in New Zealand first as well talking this

1274
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 3: kind of nonsense up.

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Speaker 21: Well, it's ridiculous. I mean that there's two points that

1276
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 21: need to be made. First of all, they've got a

1277
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 21: lot of penance to do before they can come back

1278
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 21: into the political landscape and not be embarrassed about the

1279
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 21: money they spent and the little they got for it

1280
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 21: in the economics times they put us through and everyone

1281
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 21: knows what happened was six years of Grant Robinson's way

1282
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 21: over spending, way under delivering and so on. So it'll

1283
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 21: take a while for Labor to come back from the wilderness.

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00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 5: It always does.

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Speaker 21: It happened to us when we got sent to the wilderness.

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Speaker 21: It's very unlikely to ever come back after one term.

1287
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Speaker 21: But the second problem they've got, and it's serious. I

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00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 21: don't know how they'll ever go to an election campaign

1289
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 21: when the only people they can rely on to get

1290
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Speaker 21: them back into government are the other than whack jobs

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00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 21: Greens and even bigger whack jobs to Party.

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Speaker 3: Mari Actually, that's a fair point that you make, Marris.

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Speaker 3: Have you been following this business that's party Marty saying

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00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 3: that they want to have Mary get the pens in

1295
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 3: ten years earlier.

1296
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Speaker 21: Well, there's a good question there.

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Speaker 5: What's MARII?

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Speaker 21: Well, if you are like if you are like David Seymour,

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Speaker 21: and you're one thirty second or one sixty fourthcause you

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Speaker 21: take once, do you take one sixty fourth of ten

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Speaker 21: years and you get it only three months early? And

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Speaker 21: so that af full Mariy gets the whole ten years

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Speaker 21: and a half gets five years. Then it gets really

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Speaker 21: crazy because you can be a mari if you identify

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Speaker 21: as one. Are you going to give that person some

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Speaker 21: special deal itself?

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Speaker 3: It's self in trouble if you talk like this.

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Speaker 21: Morris, Sorry but no, it's it's a question that would

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Speaker 21: have to be fronted if you were going to do

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Speaker 21: that policy.

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Speaker 3: But what is Yeah, but what about the politics of

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Speaker 3: the situation? Right, because we talked about this yesterday, here's

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Speaker 3: Labor sort of entertaining the idea briefly and then shooting

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Speaker 3: it down today.

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Speaker 4: We'll take them that long.

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Speaker 3: Don't you just need to if you'll Labor go into

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00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 3: the default position. Of gently shooting down everything that comes

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Speaker 3: out of those people's brains.

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Speaker 21: Anything that comes out of there in that scope, you

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00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 21: just say this is just nuts, just simply nuts, because

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Speaker 21: the public wouldn't have a bar of it. You would

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Speaker 21: have absolute political rights. But I'm really hot to trot

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Speaker 21: on that point about what is a mari. There are

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Speaker 21: some people that maybe fifty percent. I'm told there is

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Speaker 21: no pure mari anymore. But there are people who have

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Speaker 21: got one sixty fourth in their ancestry back five grandparents ago.

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Speaker 21: Do they get the whole lot or do they get

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Speaker 21: one sixty fourth?

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Speaker 3: I still identify it Scottish and I don't know how

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Speaker 3: dilloted it is. So you know all.

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Speaker 21: I want to claim from the Highlands, then.

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Speaker 3: Tell me something. Craig Rea same and Brown. Do you

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Speaker 3: think he's going a little bit hard on the senior

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Speaker 3: doctors as the retrick a little high.

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Speaker 11: I think he needs to turn the temperature down enormously

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Speaker 11: on this, you know, sort of there's a reason why

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Speaker 11: doctors are on strike. There's you know that there's there's

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Speaker 11: more than a thousand doctors short, senior doctors short, across

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Speaker 11: the country. He's complaining about four thousand appointments being lost.

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Speaker 11: We lose more than that a week as a consequence

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Speaker 11: of not having the number of doctors that we need

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Speaker 11: in the country. You know, they're looking for they're looking

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Speaker 11: to just make sure their pay catches up with junior doctors,

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Speaker 11: because if you make the decision to become a senior

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Speaker 11: doctor right now, you'll actually lose money going from it,

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Speaker 11: going from being a junior doctor to a senior doctor

1347
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Speaker 11: because they've lost that progressivity. So, you know, really we

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Speaker 11: need to be looking at the three hundred and eighty

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Speaker 11: million dollars we're spending on locoms and temporary doctors right

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Speaker 11: now if we want, you know, if we want to

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Speaker 11: make savings in the health service, and we need to

1352
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Speaker 11: make more than a billion dollars of savings in the

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Speaker 11: health service according to Tifata Aura. So I think if

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Speaker 11: he wants to get to the solution, if he wants

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Speaker 11: junior doctors, I say, senior doctors to come to the table.

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Speaker 11: You know that that involves a respectful conversation in the treatment.

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Speaker 11: In treatment, we talk about good faith, and he's not

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Speaker 11: really demonstrating good faith right now with the words that

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Speaker 11: he's usual.

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Speaker 21: It will come as no surprise that I think the

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Speaker 21: complete opposite of that. I think his job was to

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Speaker 21: get out some absolute facts. For example, last year they

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Speaker 21: got an eight percent rise. They're now asking for a

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Speaker 21: twelve percent rise. Hands up those across New Zealand who

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Speaker 21: thinks twelve percent is a realistic rise?

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Speaker 11: That Morris Morris Morris, then the let's talk about some

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Speaker 11: absolute facts. He said, the average pay of a doctor

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Speaker 11: is three hundred and fifty thousand. The top of scale

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Speaker 11: for a senior doctor is two hundred and seventy thousand.

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Speaker 21: Okay, so let's go what he actually sage? No, no, sorry,

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Speaker 21: you can't get away with it, Craig. He said, the

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Speaker 21: total package when you add all the elements together.

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Speaker 11: So this is overtime.

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Speaker 21: So because there is a whole lot of elements to the.

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Speaker 11: Page, it's over tame. So because we're so short of

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Speaker 11: senior doctors, you're seeing to me that they shouldn't be

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Speaker 11: paid over tame.

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Speaker 21: The appointments, the expect that we can't have, you can't respects.

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Speaker 21: The other thing is there are more senior doctors employed

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Speaker 21: now than there were when National came to power. There

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Speaker 21: are more senior doctors employed now than there.

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Speaker 11: Was, and there's still and they're still aren't enough.

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Speaker 3: So what's your point here that this is my point.

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Speaker 14: Do you want to.

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Speaker 9: Spend a fewer appointments?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 21: My point is do you want to spend twelve percent

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Speaker 21: on giving people up an unrealistic pay rise or do

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Speaker 21: you want that twelve percent to go to employing twelve

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Speaker 21: percent more doctors.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to give more doctors Morris, though, You're

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Speaker 3: not going to attract them overseas if you give them

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Speaker 3: crap pay and they can get more paid for yourself.

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Speaker 21: But it's not crap I'm sorry, Hither, it's not crap pay.

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Speaker 3: Might look it might not be crap pay when you

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Speaker 3: compare it to a KFC worker, but if you compare

1397
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Speaker 3: it to another senior doctor over in New South wales's

1398
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Speaker 3: crap pay.

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Speaker 21: Well, Actually, you're also missing the next point. A number

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Speaker 21: of the senior doctors, and I know some of them

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Speaker 21: very well, also do a huge amount of stuff in

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01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 21: the private sector to supplement that and are earning five hundred,

1403
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 21: six hundred and up to a million dollars of income.

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Speaker 21: So I'm sorry, but I don't think the vast bulk

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Speaker 21: of the public out they have a great deal of sympathy.

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Speaker 11: I'm going to fundamentally disagree with you there. I think

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Speaker 11: people have a great deal of sympathy for senior doctors.

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01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 11: And you're absolutely right. If you're a senior doctor in

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Speaker 11: New Zealand and you're looking at, you know, the pair

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01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 11: that you could receive in New South Wales, which is

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Speaker 11: by the way, the worst paid sector in Australia, then

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Speaker 11: it's well above that which is available in New Zealand.

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Speaker 11: All Right, we're going to think Simeon Brown needs to

1414
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Speaker 11: turn the temperature down on this to make sure actually

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Speaker 11: he's talking to doctors rather than shouting at We'll.

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Speaker 3: Leave it there, come back, and just to take twelve away.

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Speaker 1: From six the Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty

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01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: achieve extraordinary results with unparallel reach.

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Speaker 3: Stein away from Sex Morris Williams and Craig Greennie on

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Speaker 3: the huddle with that's Morris. I see you got Laura

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01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 3: the producer came in and she gave me a graph

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Speaker 3: of annual CO two emissions that you want me to see.

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Speaker 3: Who hung up? Who's there? Hold on, I'm here, I'm here.

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Speaker 3: Oh Craig, you're still there? Okay? Morris Morris has sent

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Speaker 3: me a graph and then he's disappeared. So anyway, now

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Speaker 3: I'm going to beIN it. I think he's going to

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Speaker 3: make the point that we don't actually.

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Speaker 21: Oh he's back now, something came off here for me.

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Speaker 3: Oh did it?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 21: Well, what I was going to make the point is

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Speaker 21: that yes, I want us to do but we can

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Speaker 21: with our emissions to reduce them. But I don't want

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Speaker 21: to die on the altar of purity and say we're

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Speaker 21: going to get rid of agriculture and we're going to

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Speaker 21: get rid of this like the Greens are advocating. The

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Speaker 21: reason I've given you that graph is that New Zealand

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Speaker 21: co two missions don't even register off the X axis.

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Speaker 21: You can't even see. And you look at China's growth

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Speaker 21: in any one year, it's way bigger than our total.

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Speaker 21: And so we could end up being the purest country

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Speaker 21: in the world doing everything.

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Speaker 3: Well what it's.

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Speaker 21: China and India and South if you look at Brazil

1445
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Speaker 21: and the rest of South America. So the side that well,

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Speaker 21: I've heard the Green set the last election campaign. If

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Speaker 21: you vote for us, we can fix climate change. Our

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Speaker 21: contribution to climate change is point one seven of eight

1449
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Speaker 21: percent and so we should do I'm not saying we

1450
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Speaker 21: shouldn't do a bit. We should do whatever we can,

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Speaker 21: but within reason, not with not the extreme lunacy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, Craig, I wonder if Morris is

1453
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 3: struck on something here, which is I wonder if part

1454
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Speaker 3: of the epathy that we're registering in their IPSOS poll

1455
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 3: about climate change is simply the fact that New Zealanders

1456
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 3: are starting to realize that we actually have no impact

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Speaker 3: on the world's climate in this country.

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Speaker 11: Oh well we do quick clearly well in terms of

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Speaker 11: New Zealanders are one of the highest per capita emitters

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Speaker 11: of carbon anywhere in the world.

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Speaker 9: And.

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Speaker 3: Million of us. Well, it's still really important.

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Speaker 11: And if all of us, if everyone in the world

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Speaker 11: was to behave like that, climate change would be out

1465
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Speaker 11: of control. Well like that then, but they're not because

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01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 11: we've got the Paris Agreements and that other countries are

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01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 11: working out of Yes, but that's not a reason for

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Speaker 11: New Zealand to not deliver its part in delivering claimate change.

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Speaker 11: All right, listen, And as a consequence, we need to

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Speaker 11: be doing that because if we don't, then we are

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Speaker 11: guaranteeing and kneeling on claimate change for our children in

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Speaker 11: the future.

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Speaker 3: Aslutely.

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Speaker 21: The difference between us is how much I'm a fan

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Speaker 21: of doing what would work. How if we can do

1476
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Speaker 21: things to stop our cows belching and farting and so on,

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Speaker 21: I think that's great, all of those things. When we

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Speaker 21: want to say let's get rid of agriculture and get

1479
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Speaker 21: rid of our transport sector, we go too far.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, too right, guys, listen, thank you so much. We'll

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Speaker 3: have to leave it there. And Morris Williams and Craig

1482
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Speaker 3: Rennie our huddle this evening. Happy Easter to you both.

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Speaker 3: Seven away from six.

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Speaker 4: It's the Heather Duple.

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Speaker 3: Herether imagine if Winston Peter's got his pension at fifty five,

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Speaker 3: he's marty and he's eighty, and he's still alive. As

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Speaker 3: a fair point, Trevor, actually he's got he's already pricey. Frankly,

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Speaker 3: Winston on the pension is already expensive, and we gave

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Speaker 3: it to him at fifty five would be very very expensive.

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Speaker 3: Come possibly for now. As I said to you earlier,

1493
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Speaker 3: I got to tell you how to stack up your

1494
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 3: best day in your whole life. There is a formula

1495
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Speaker 3: to this. The University of British Columbia have researched a

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Speaker 3: whole bunch of data and I don't quite know how

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Speaker 3: they've gone about it, and frankly, I don't really care

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Speaker 3: because it's probably going to ruin the story. But basically,

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Speaker 3: what they've done is they have figured out how you

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Speaker 3: can have the best day ever by dividing your time

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Speaker 3: up in a certain way. This is the formula for

1502
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 3: a joyful day. Six hours spent with family, followed by

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01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 3: two hours spent with friends. Depending on how you feel

1504
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 3: about your family, you might disagree with that, but anyway,

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Speaker 3: six with family, two with friends, then one and a

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Speaker 3: half hours socializing. Now I don't know who you're socializing with.

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Speaker 3: If it's not like you've done six hours with your family,

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01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 3: now you're doing two hours with your friends. Now you've

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Speaker 3: got one and a half hours to kill socializing presumably

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Speaker 3: with other people. So I'm guessing this is like your neighbors,

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Speaker 3: the lady at the coffee show, maybe the kindy teachers,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Then two hours of exercise, yes, two

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Speaker 3: hours no, No, you're not going to get away with

1514
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 3: your thirty thirty minutes of a hit, two hours of exercise,

1515
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 3: one hour of eating and drinking, which if you're a boozer,

1516
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 3: if you like to drink too much, it's a problem

1517
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 3: for you. Work less than six hours. I think we

1518
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,959
Speaker 3: can all agree with that. TV less than one hour,

1519
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 3: and commuting needs to be less than fifteen minutes. Now

1520
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 3: I did the maths for you. That means you've only

1521
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 3: got four and a half hours sleep, so it's only

1522
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 3: going to work for one day. After that, it's all

1523
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 3: just downhill from there. Let's talk about gas and coal.

1524
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 3: Next news talks, they'd been.

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01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: Where business meets insight, the Business Hour with hither Dupless

1526
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: Hour and mass insurance and investments, Grow your wealth, Protect

1527
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: your future newstalks.

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01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:10,479
Speaker 3: eNB Evening coming up in the next hour. Liam Dan

1529
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 3: on whether we should be worried about inflation ticking up again,

1530
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 3: Joan McKay on whether the agriculture sector is actually going

1531
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 3: to save our economy again, and Sam Dickey on whether

1532
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 3: there are any historic parallels with what we're seeing with

1533
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 3: the trade war. Right now. It's coming up eight past

1534
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 3: six now Genesis Energy has announced it's just going to

1535
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 3: give up on the gas, they give it another five years.

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01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 3: The chief executive, Malcolm John's told of Parliamentary Select Committee

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01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 3: he no longer sees gas as a transition fuel and

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01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 3: they're just going to hit the coal instead. John Carnegie

1539
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 3: is the chief executive of Energy Resources altered Or and

1540
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 3: with us. Now, Hey John, hey, hey, you don't I'm

1541
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 3: very well, thank you. This is a reflection that we're

1542
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 3: running out of gas, right, That's the problem here, isn't it.

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01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 14: Oh well, look, unfortunately what's been said isn't a great

1544
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 14: surprise to us. And actually it's not that gas isn't

1545
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 14: a viable transition fuel. It said, it's simply not coming

1546
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 14: available to the market and the quantity is wanted and

1547
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 14: Genese are is saying that out loud, so you know,

1548
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 14: these comments aren't actually anything more than a practical reflection

1549
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 14: of the reality that major gas uses are facing right

1550
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,439
Speaker 14: across the economy. And I've been saying this for some time,

1551
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 14: that we've got an energy shortage. And unfortunately, this is

1552
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 14: what an energy shortage looks like. When one of our

1553
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 14: largest gas users says there's not enough gas for them

1554
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 14: and we need to turn to coal to make electricity.

1555
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 3: I mean, they've gone to the deadline of twenty thirty,

1556
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 3: which is alarmingly close. Is that realistic?

1557
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 14: Well realistic in terms of what guess.

1558
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 3: Like they're really going to stop doing gas in five

1559
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 3: years time?

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01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 14: Well, look, you know, I think the frustrating thing about

1561
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 14: this is that New Zealand actually has abundant natural gas

1562
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 14: that can be harnessed to ensure a thriving economy and

1563
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 14: fueling our manufacturers and exporters to deliver key we jobs

1564
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 14: and prosperity. It's just that, through a variety of policy decisions,

1565
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 14: gas isn't coming to market, and you know, as you'd expect,

1566
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 14: you know, Genesis is responding to those market signals.

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01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 3: What does this? So Genesis is my provider and I

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01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 3: pay them for electricity and I also pay them for

1569
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 3: gas because the old stove runs on gas. You know,

1570
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 3: cook on gas. What does that mean? Am I not

1571
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 3: going to be able to cook on gas in five years?

1572
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 10: Oh?

1573
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 14: No, Look, I think there's plenty of gas. New Zealand

1574
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 14: has lots of gas we just need.

1575
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 3: Is Genesis going to continue to be my company then?

1576
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 3: Or are they not going to provide my gas?

1577
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 9: Well?

1578
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 14: Love, I mean you need to They'll be engaging with

1579
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 14: you as one of their customers. But we do have

1580
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 14: plenty of gas.

1581
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 9: We just need the right conditions to get it out

1582
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 9: of it.

1583
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 3: So you don't know what this practically means about them

1584
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 3: saying that they're going to give up on the gas

1585
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 3: in five years, as to whether everybody who's got gas

1586
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 3: provided by Genesis suddenly needs to find a new provider.

1587
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 14: In terms of electricity generation, are signaling that are going

1588
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 14: to rely on Colon. Good on them, you know they

1589
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 14: doing what they can. But I can assure you that

1590
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 14: everyone would prefer to see domestic natural gas filling the

1591
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 14: gap when we have low lake levels. But it seemed

1592
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 14: to be we seem to be doing the reverse of

1593
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 14: what the rest of the world are doing. We're going

1594
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 14: from gas to coal, not coal to gas.

1595
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 3: That's pretty meantal Now they're talking about eventually converting Huntley

1596
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 3: to instead of burning the coal, burning the wood waste.

1597
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 3: Is this just pie in the sky nonsense that they

1598
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 3: say to make us feel good about it, or is

1599
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:30,440
Speaker 3: that realistic?

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01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 9: No?

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01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 14: I no, that's some There are active, active plans to

1602
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 14: have that happen, and they've they've said they're going to

1603
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 14: work at pace to get three hundred thousand tons of

1604
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 14: domestically produced by mass in place by twenty twenty eight. Yeah,

1605
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 14: but you know it is a budding market in New Zealand.

1606
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,719
Speaker 3: But did you say three hundred tons or three hundred

1607
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 3: thousand tons?

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01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 14: Three hundred thousand tons?

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01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 3: I mean that's still nothing, is it right? They've got

1610
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 3: five hundred thousand tons of coal there and they're ordering

1611
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 3: seven hundreds seventy thousand tons of coal, So three hundred

1612
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 3: thousand tons of wood is sort of just a tiny fraction,

1613
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 3: isn't it?

1614
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 14: Well to put it into perspective, Heather, it could in

1615
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 14: a normal year, whatever a normal year now means in

1616
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 14: an ourcrisity market, it could an a normal average year

1617
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 14: avoid the use of coal. But in a dry year,

1618
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 14: of course, Genesis could use three times.

1619
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 3: I see what you mean?

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01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 14: Yeah that much. So you know the answer to that

1621
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 14: question is you know, it depends. Yeah.

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01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 3: Hey, John, thank you very much. I really appreciate you

1623
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 3: talking us through it as John Carnegie, the energy resources

1624
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 3: out here or chief executive. Don't get me wrong, if

1625
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 3: we invite you on the show, and I'm talking to you, Genesis,

1626
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 3: if we invite you on the show to come and

1627
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 3: have a chat about coal. Don't think you're going to

1628
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 3: come here and get a hard time from me. I

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01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 3: love coal because I tell you what I love. What

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01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 3: I love more than the climate, it's having a house

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01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 3: that has the lights on. So if you've got to

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01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 3: burn the coal, don't worry about it. Is all Gbo me.

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01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 3: You know, we get what we rep, what we saw.

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01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 3: We want to start cutting the gas off. Then we're

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01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 3: going to start burning the coal, and I understand it.

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01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,839
Speaker 3: I'm not angry with Genesis, but I do want Genesis

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01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 3: to come and tell me what happens to my gas,

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01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 3: because I mean, we could be talking about two completely

1639
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 3: different things. They might just not be be generating electricity

1640
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 3: with gas, but very happy to pipe the gas at

1641
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 3: my house, and I'd be happy about that. I hope

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01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 3: that we've got enough gas so that we can continue

1643
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 3: to cook, do you know what I mean? Because it's

1644
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 3: going to be an absolute pain in the butt having

1645
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 3: to switch to induction because if you've seen what that

1646
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 3: does to your fuse, I don't want to be doing that.

1647
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 3: Plus also it costs a lot of money, and nobody

1648
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 3: wants to be cooking on electricity anymore, do we. I mean,

1649
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 3: we've tried that, haven't we, and gas is a whole lot.

1650
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 3: Better listen, I've got a little bit of good news

1651
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 3: for you. On the doll there's been an uptick in

1652
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 3: the number of people who are coming off the doll

1653
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 3: and going to work. This time last year they had

1654
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 3: about twenty thousan five hundred people thereabouts come off the

1655
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 3: doll and go to work, and this time this year

1656
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 3: it's twenty three thousand. Now it's an increase of about

1657
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 3: two and a half thousand people. Doesn't sound like a lot,

1658
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 3: but hey, that's eleven percent and we will take that.

1659
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 3: And the government would probably like us to believe that

1660
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 3: it's because they're going harder on the beneficiaries. And maybe

1661
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 3: that's true. Maybe it's because of our slow economic recovery.

1662
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, but whatever it is, I'm happy to

1663
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 3: see it because people languishing on the doll is a

1664
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 3: crime for their lives. So the more people getting off

1665
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 3: and getting the jobs fantastic. Thirteen past six.

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01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:20,000
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1668
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:24,080
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1669
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:28,480
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1670
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Speaker 3: Ed me, Heather, thank you for asking about the gas.

1672
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 3: I don't want to go back to the hot water cylinder.

1673
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 3: Andrea it flash, guy, I'm still on that. Sixteen past

1674
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 3: six now, inflation has increased slightly more than expected. It

1675
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 3: came in at two and a half percent for Q one,

1676
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:44,679
Speaker 3: a little bit more than the two point four percent

1677
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 3: we were expecting. We spoke to Gareth Kenan from in

1678
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 3: Infa Metrics about it earlier. It was a little bit

1679
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 3: of gloomy about our economy. And Liam Dan, the Herald's

1680
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 3: business editor at large, is here to be a little

1681
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 3: bit more gloomy again, aren't.

1682
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 22: You lim Yeah, I'm not here to cheer you up.

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01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,600
Speaker 3: Sorry, what's the gloomy you're bringing at me?

1684
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 22: Well, inflation. The good news is the inflation's maybe a

1685
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 22: bit of a red hearing. I mean, we all hate it.

1686
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 22: At the food prices went up. We know that the

1687
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 22: cheese and the milk and everything pushed it up, and

1688
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 22: that it's got something to do with commodity prices, and

1689
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 22: that's good for the economy.

1690
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 3: But and the coffee prices.

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01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 22: Yeah, coffee, chocolate, all the good things. But what the

1692
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 22: reason that the economists have confidence that inflation isn't coming

1693
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,759
Speaker 22: back to haunt us unfortunately, is because the economy is gone.

1694
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 3: We're all going to get pounders, trade wars struggling.

1695
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 22: Yeah, and so you look at some of the stuff

1696
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 22: I read the infometrics piece. Obviously, A and Z this

1697
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 22: week as well had a piece saying they now think

1698
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 22: that the OCO will have to go to two point five,

1699
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:43,600
Speaker 22: which is about fifty basis points lower than they'd said previously.

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01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 22: And you know the sense that the thing about the

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01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 22: A and Z one is that they hadn't even factored

1702
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:53,799
Speaker 22: and they're not factoring in the fallout from the trade

1703
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 22: wars yet.

1704
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 3: So this is just how crappy our recovery is.

1705
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 22: Well, I guess what, there hasn't been any wrecked fallout

1706
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 22: from the trade wars yet, but the shock to confidence

1707
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 22: I think is an issue. So, you know, the hit

1708
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 22: to the key we say, of the market turmoil, and

1709
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 22: if you're a business thinking about what's going to happen,

1710
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,520
Speaker 22: you know it just our recovery was such a fledgling,

1711
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 22: you know, tiny little thing finally had this recovery going,

1712
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 22: and now to have this big shock to global confidence.

1713
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 22: It's really the worst possible timing. So you know, I

1714
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 22: would think, you know, we may well, we will probably

1715
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 22: see the Reserve Bank go lower, and we've probably got

1716
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 22: to see them, I think, go go fifty basis points

1717
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 22: in May, because we kind of need to get ahead

1718
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 22: of the curve before for you know, another gloomy winter.

1719
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 3: Yes, but then if they go fifty basis points in May,

1720
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 3: you're doing the very thing that everybody says you shouldn't do,

1721
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 3: which is overreact to the trade war, right you should?

1722
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 22: Yeah, sit, Yeah, I thought about that. I mean May

1723
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 22: twenty eight, so we've got a while I think.

1724
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 3: I think five weeks or thereabouts by that.

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Speaker 14: You know.

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Speaker 22: Look, and I hope I'm wrong. I hope things go

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Speaker 22: really well from here.

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Speaker 14: Yea.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, And Donald Trump negotiates with all these countries and

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01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 22: soul everything with China and it doesn't need to happen,

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Speaker 22: but it doesn't quite feel like that.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So here's my counter argument to that. Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: is not an idiot. I mean, you know, regardless of

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Speaker 3: what you think about him, he's very very he cares

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Speaker 3: very deeply what happens in the markets and what happens

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Speaker 3: in the economy, Right, that's the kind of thing that

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01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 3: he measures himself by. So if he sees things starting

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01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 3: to go tit's up. He's not going to go down.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, he's paused various things and he could, but he

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01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 22: doesn't really care about our economy.

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Speaker 7: So no, and so but if.

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Speaker 3: The war, if the water economy really takes a hammering,

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Speaker 3: it affects their economy, doesn't.

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Speaker 22: It does, But we are very vulnerable to China. And look,

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01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 22: you know, good things could happen. You know, people have

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Speaker 22: talked about it. There's all sorts of effects. But I

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01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 22: guess the issue at the moment is, you know, like

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Speaker 22: we saw it in the card spending data earlier this week,

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01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 22: people have put their wallets away and that's not supposed

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01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 22: to happen. The interest rates are supposed to come down

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01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 22: and you're supposed to spend more. So you know, I'm

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01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 22: reserving judgment too on the on the tariff that the

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01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 22: actual final fallout from all the tariffs, how it lands, say,

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01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 22: you know, nine months, twelve months from now, but.

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Speaker 3: What it's doing to our heads as well right now, the.

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Speaker 22: Chaos and uncertainty is making it very difficult for this

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Speaker 22: recovery to get going.

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Speaker 3: Do you reckon it's gone to Nichola Willis's head yet.

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Speaker 22: Well, she's very much staying calm as she should. You know, good, good,

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01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 22: that's what you want from the leadership. And she's saying

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Speaker 22: she's going to stick to the script. There's no room

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01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 22: for you know, loosening the fiscal purse strings yet. But

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01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 22: you know, it could go either way because it's again it's.

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01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,839
Speaker 3: I mean, she doesn't need to loosen it. They're loose already.

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Speaker 3: The woman spends more than Grant robertson.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, but you know, like it is still a constraint

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Speaker 22: on growth and if you know, if this turns into

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Speaker 22: a GFC type scenario. And I'm looking at some stuff

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Speaker 22: from Fitch today, Fitch Ratings looking at global growth this year,

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Speaker 22: and they're forecasting it to be the worst, not counting

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Speaker 22: the first pandemic year, the worst since twenty two thousand

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Speaker 22: and nine. So they're talking about global growth coming down

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Speaker 22: to very very low levels. And yeah, I hope, I

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01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 22: certainly hope we don't have to look at any kind

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Speaker 22: of fiscal stimulus. I know it's a really bad time

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Speaker 22: for it because we don't have much room to borrow anymore.

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Speaker 3: But someone says you're just depressed because of daylight saving

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Speaker 3: in winter.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean and the weather's lousy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, and we've got to stare, so that's

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Speaker 3: always a risk. Thanks, Liam, appreciated. Jamie McKay's nexts Liam Dan,

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Speaker 3: the Herald's Business editor at Large, six twenty one The.

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Speaker 1: Rural Report with MSD Animal Health, Home of the New

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Speaker 1: Old Flags Rapid Evotags.

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Speaker 3: Hey, right now it is twenty three pass six and

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Speaker 3: with me as Jamie mckaye, host of the Country.

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Speaker 4: Jamie, Hello, Hello you.

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Speaker 10: They're great to check to you again after all these months.

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Speaker 3: It's lovely.

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Speaker 10: Hey.

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Speaker 3: Did you realize that we named the baby after you?

1792
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 3: Like I told you we were going to?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, well I didn't believe that, but I mean, let's

1794
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 23: let's be a way bit more honest.

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Speaker 10: It's after the mackay Klan. Of course Barrie's mother.

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01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 3: But you know, don't pass.

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Speaker 10: Yes, well, we all belonged, We all belong to the

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Speaker 10: clan cousin ever as we all do.

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Speaker 3: Now Hey, listen, so Christopher Lux and Rickins, it's our

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Speaker 3: farmers pulling us out of a recession.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, well it is, but just before that, having I've

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Speaker 23: kind of been out of action a week this week, unfortunately,

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01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 23: and I've just sort of trying to catch up on

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01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 23: the news today and I thought I'll listen into Heather.

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01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 10: Well, I'm driving around in the latter part of the

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01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 10: afternoon and I'm thinking, is this Heather Duper c l

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01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 10: and drive or is this BYD Drive? And you talks Heather?

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Speaker 3: Do you have a ut? Do you have a yute?

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Speaker 24: Yeah?

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01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 10: I'm shameless as well.

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Speaker 23: I've got a Toyota high Lux Hybrid and you've got

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Speaker 23: a hybrid BYD so they are good. Well, the best

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Speaker 23: thing about him is all the stuff you can chuck

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Speaker 23: in the back truck, you know, golf clubs and all

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01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 23: that sort of stuff. In my case, no, my kids

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01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:40,679
Speaker 23: are too big to put him in the back, although

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Speaker 23: I would probably would still like to put him there. No, Look,

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01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 23: things like a tree planting spades, heather and native trees.

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01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 23: You know how keen I am on planting those, So yeah,

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Speaker 23: go the utes love it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So the ute drivers being the farmers, what are

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Speaker 3: they doing to help us out? That the lux and

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01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 3: feels like he's got to give them this praise.

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Speaker 10: Well, I see he was at a lung a luxe

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Speaker 10: and luncheon today hosted by the Taranaki Chamber of Commerce,

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Speaker 10: and I guess he's reiterating what most of us, certainly

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Speaker 10: in the primary sector know anyhow, that agriculture is pulling

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Speaker 10: a New Zealand out of a recession, because we're in

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Speaker 10: danger of slipping back into one of trump as his ways.

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Speaker 10: And he was just saying, look after a really good

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01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 10: and I know you talked about this one yesterday, a

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Speaker 10: really good global dairy trade auction, it was outstanding result.

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Speaker 10: Homet powder up two point eight percent, one point six

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01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 10: across the board. Look, everything else is going down while

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01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 10: and all that sort of going down. There's a lot

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Speaker 10: of uncertainty, but Derry just keeps on keeping on. And

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Speaker 10: you know, Luxelm was quoting a few numbers. You know,

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Speaker 10: farming generates ten thousand dollars for every man, woman and

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Speaker 10: child in this country and we are the best farmers

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Speaker 10: in the world. And he was just going on to

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Speaker 10: say that economic activity, particularly in places like Southland and Canderby,

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Speaker 10: where they've enjoyed a very favorable summer compared to some

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Speaker 10: of our North Island farming friends. You know, they're really

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Speaker 10: starting to cook with gas with economic momentum as the farmers.

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Speaker 10: And we'll see it at Mystery Creek in a couple

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Speaker 10: of months time. You know, the farmers have got a

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01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 10: lot of catch up spending to do. They haven't made

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Speaker 10: much money.

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Speaker 23: The sheep farmers have lost money over the past few years.

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Speaker 23: So they're going to go to Mystery Creek and there

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01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 23: will be uts by d Utes or Toyota Highlux's heather

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Speaker 23: to be replaced and the tractors as.

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Speaker 10: Well, and that's going to be good. It's a money

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01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 10: go around, but it all starts. It all starts at

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Speaker 10: the milking shed and the sharing shed.

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Speaker 14: We go.

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Speaker 3: You good thing, Jamie, Thank you so much and thanks

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Speaker 3: for listening and enjoy your high Luckxsis Jamie McKay, Host

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01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 3: of the Country. Hey do you remember do you remember

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01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 3: the Kafa fall back at the Olympics where the football

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01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 3: ferns were being spied on by the Canadians. Do you

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01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 3: remember that? Now the woman who is the woman who

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01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 3: was the coach who has been banned for doing that,

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Speaker 3: Bev Priestman, is in New Zealand at the moment, and

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Speaker 3: it turns out that there is a possibility she becomes

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Speaker 3: the coach of the football ferns. Now, this is one

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01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 3: of those kind of rule them in, rule them out

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01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 3: games you don't actually know, like the media plays this game.

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01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 3: You don't actually know that she necessarily is going to

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Speaker 3: become the coach of the football firms. But Wellington Phoenix

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01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 3: was us, oh sorry, of the of the Wellington Phoenix.

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Speaker 3: Wellington Phoenix was us. Bev's Bev's Bev's hanging around in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand? Would you hire? And they were like, we

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Speaker 3: would be silly not to consider her? How would that? What?

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Speaker 3: How how fun would that be? Let's be I don't care,

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Speaker 3: I don't care. Look Bev. I don't want Bev using

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Speaker 3: her dirty tricks against us, but I like Bev to

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Speaker 3: use her dirty tricks for us because she's obviously into it.

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Speaker 3: And I think the Wellington Football Phoenix ladies need a

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Speaker 3: bit of help, judging by how things are going for them.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, go and hire Bev. She can live here

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Speaker 3: with her Kiwi Lady Brilliants, buying some people news talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be.

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Speaker 2: Alive.

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Speaker 4: Everything from SMS to the big corporates.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather duplic Ellen and Ma's insurance

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Speaker 1: and investments, grow your wealth, protect your future.

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Speaker 4: These talks envy.

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Speaker 3: I haven't gottum that we need to talk about Chloe Swarbrick,

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Speaker 3: and we will talk about Chloe Spowbrick. Just got to

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01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 3: draw your attention to the fact that we have had

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Speaker 3: another one bite the dust at the Reserve Bank. This

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Speaker 3: is the assistant Governor, Simone Robbers, who frankly I did

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Speaker 3: not know what's working there, but hey, there's six hundred

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01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 3: and sixty of them, so you can't know all of them.

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Speaker 3: Having said that she was an assistant governor, but it

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01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 3: does seem like there are a lot of them lately.

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01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 3: So anyway, Simone, who we'd never heard of before, is

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Speaker 3: leaving the Reserve Bank just weeks after Adrian all left

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Speaker 3: abruptly in March. She's also the general manager of Strategy,

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Speaker 3: Engagement and Sustainability, which frankly does sound like a job

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01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 3: you don't need. I mean, that's just that's a fellow job,

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01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 3: isn't it, Engagement, Strategy and Sustainability. She's going to leave

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01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 3: at the end of May, and best of luck to her,

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01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 3: because I'm sure she's very smart and that she will

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01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 3: do make it have a greater impact somewhere else. But

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01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 3: we're not paying her way and she doesn't have to

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01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 3: be part of a team of six hundred and sixty.

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01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 3: But anyway, what I'm trying to get to here is

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Speaker 3: are we having a little cleanout? Because I don't think

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01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:10,639
Speaker 3: that would be a bad thing. I mean, if you've

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Speaker 3: got a reserve bank that starts identifying as a tree

1913
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 3: and goes public with thinks it's a good idea to

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Speaker 3: go public with that. I think that maybe at the

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Speaker 3: top you have a problem and maybe a little clean

1916
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 3: out of all of Adrian's little mates who are there

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01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 3: might be in order. Twenty three away from seven ever

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Speaker 3: duper see Alan Sam Dicky from Fisher Funds is with us.

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Speaker 4: Hey Sam, good evening here righting now?

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Speaker 3: Oh thank you so much. Geez. I've come back straight

1921
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Speaker 3: into the old trade war and what's going on with

1922
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 3: the tariff headlines? How long is this going to go

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Speaker 3: on for? Do you think?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 24: There are sort of really three types of beer markets,

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Speaker 24: and remember a beer market is one where the market

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Speaker 24: falls by twenty percent or more. And we were the

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Speaker 24: at last Tuesday, So three types and the vent riven

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Speaker 24: beer market a cycnical beer market and a structural beer market.

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Speaker 4: So structural is where there are.

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Speaker 24: Structural imbalances or financial bubbles like the nineteen thirties Great depression.

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Speaker 24: Cyclical beer market is a function of the economic cycle

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Speaker 24: turning down like the nineteen ninety recession, and an event

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Speaker 24: driven beer market it's the most benign of all. The

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Speaker 24: market falls because of a specific event like COVID. And

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Speaker 24: to be clear, this current situation is event driven, which

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Speaker 24: is the most benign, and the event was the Liberation

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Speaker 24: Day tariffs. Now that's not to say that everything that

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Speaker 24: comes out of Trump's mouth is a virus like COVID.

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Speaker 24: But Goldman Sacks did an exercise looking back almost two

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Speaker 24: hundred years, and event driven beer markets last only six

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Speaker 24: to eight months.

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Speaker 3: Is there a possibility that an event driven beer market

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Speaker 3: becomes a structural beer market.

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Speaker 24: Well, there's a possibility it can become a cyclical beer market.

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Speaker 24: So you think about you know, if you're sitting in

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Speaker 24: a boardroom in Hanoi or Mumbai or Manchester or Milwaukee,

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Speaker 24: and you've been asked to sign off on a billion

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Speaker 24: dollar CAPEX project, for example, you'd probably sit on your hands, right,

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Speaker 24: And if consumers in business are sit on their hands

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Speaker 24: for too long, we slip into recession, and the beer

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Speaker 24: market could last for longer, and a cyclical beer market

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Speaker 24: can last, you know, obviously longer than six to eight months.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then obviously the worst case scenarios then becomes

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Speaker 3: a structural one and there's but the best case scenario.

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Speaker 3: What you're telling us is that we're talking about a

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Speaker 3: matter of months here. Yeah, that's right. Okay. Are there

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Speaker 3: any parallels in history here?

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Speaker 24: Yeah, I think COVID is a reasonable parallel for event

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Speaker 24: riven beer market. Yeah, I mean those are other parallels.

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Speaker 24: I mean, looking back two hundred years, there's been many

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Speaker 24: event driven beer markets, and the average time these last

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Speaker 24: is six to eight months. The average time a cyclical

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Speaker 24: beer market lasts about twenty seven months. So that's sort

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Speaker 24: of gold sex looking back over two hundred odd years.

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Speaker 3: So what are you looking for to kind of tell you,

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Speaker 3: to inform you as to where we're going with this

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Speaker 3: and whether it's improving or getting worse.

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Speaker 24: I'd love to say we're able to ignore the haphazard

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Speaker 24: headline bombs coming out of the US, but really looking

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Speaker 24: for any signs of walking back some of the tariffs

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Speaker 24: and posts on China, any signs that the ninety day

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Speaker 24: pause on the rest of the world will result in

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Speaker 24: a permanent pause, but more so any signs that there

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Speaker 24: is movement towards his endgame of on shore in US manufacturing.

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Speaker 24: So you probably saw in video in the press yesterday

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Speaker 24: talking up spending half a trillion dollars over the next

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Speaker 24: four years to manufacture AI chips in the US, but Apple, Honda, Hayondai,

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Speaker 24: Volkswagen all making noises about wrapping up US manufacturing and

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Speaker 24: then just the US dollar itself. Think of that as

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Speaker 24: a popularity barometer for Trump, and the US is an

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Speaker 24: investment destination.

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Speaker 3: Do you when you see these I mean a lot

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Speaker 3: of us are looking at some of the stuff that

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Speaker 3: he's backtracking on and he's sort of flip flopping, and

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Speaker 3: we're seeing it as signs that he is coming under

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Speaker 3: pressure and blinking and we're taking that as positive signs.

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Speaker 24: Are you, yeah, I think that's reasonable. We did discover

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Speaker 24: as his pain threshold last Wednesday. And the market always

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Speaker 24: talks about finding the pain point or looking for the

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Speaker 24: where's the insurance policy at? And originally the most benign

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Speaker 24: view was or you won't want to see the equity

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Speaker 24: market falling, because that's a you know, it's a popularity barometer.

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Speaker 24: But he was clearly prepared to let the equity market fall.

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Speaker 24: But when thirty year bond yields spiked higher as foreign

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Speaker 24: investors put a high risk premium on US government debt,

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Speaker 24: and remember ninety percent of mortgages than the US has

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Speaker 24: set off those rates, and then credit spreads spiked higher.

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Speaker 24: So credit spreads you slap on top of government bonds

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Speaker 24: to lend to individuals or governments, sorry, individuals and businesses.

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Speaker 24: That was his pain point. So equity market weakness hurts

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Speaker 24: Wall Street at a rise, and borrowing costs hurts everyone.

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Speaker 3: Right, Sam, what's your advice to investors?

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Speaker 24: Well, I can't give advice, but that the marketers watching

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Speaker 24: those three assets, the US dollars, the thirty year bond,

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Speaker 24: and US credit spreads. They're all at slightly uncomfortable levels

2007
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Speaker 24: but holding there for now. But more broadly, we've got

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Speaker 24: to remember times like this, says equity investors. You learn

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Speaker 24: to stomach the sort of volatility every few years. So

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Speaker 24: twand and one, two and eight, twenty eleven, twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 24: twenty twenty, twenty twenty two, and now twenty twenty five

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Speaker 24: we saw these types of volatility as to be expected.

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Speaker 4: The situation is fluid, but at the very.

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Speaker 24: Least here I think it's a good chance to speak

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Speaker 24: to your financial advisor and check and make sure you're

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Speaker 24: in the right strategy for your risk tolerance.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very goodvice.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thank you very much, Sam appreciated. Happy is to

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Speaker 3: you that Sam de Kia Fisher Funds right now, it's

2020
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Speaker 3: eighteen away from seven.

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Speaker 4: Heather Duplicy Ellen the little weird one Puka.

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Speaker 3: The possibility has been raised that Flybys may sell your

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Speaker 3: data to make some money. Now, what's going on here

2024
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Speaker 3: with Flybys? Because you'll be like then they closed yet

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01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 3: Flybys closed last year and then the company behind it,

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Speaker 3: Loyalty New Zealand, went into liquidation. Now one of Loyalty

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Speaker 3: New Zealand's key assets is our data because of course Flybys.

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Speaker 3: If you were hooked up to Flybys, you were just

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Speaker 3: handing over heaps of your data to Flyby, you know,

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Speaker 3: like stuff like years and years of your shopping histories

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Speaker 3: and your profiles. I mean every time you went to

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Speaker 3: I don't know, let's say, Might to tend them and

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Speaker 3: to give libys you know, so they were basically recording

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Speaker 3: what you were doing, and they know that you're a

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Speaker 3: forty year old woman who lives in Auckland blah blah blah,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I don't know that kind of demographic information.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe some in third financial information like are you

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Speaker 3: loaded or are you not? Whatever. The thing about it is,

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Speaker 3: how many of us were signed up to flybys is

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Speaker 3: quite amazing the numbers, right, two point nine million of

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01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 3: us signed up to flybys. That is seventy four percent

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Speaker 3: of the country's households. Now that data, that is a

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Speaker 3: lot of data. That data will be worth a lot

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Speaker 3: of money. Now, they haven't said that they're going to

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Speaker 3: sell it, but they haven't said they're not going to

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Speaker 3: sell it. And this has got some people who care

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Speaker 3: about data and stuff a little bit like, ooh, are

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01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 3: they going to sell it not? And the reason that

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01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 3: they're asking this question is because it's happened before. Just

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Speaker 3: last month, the DNA ancestry company twenty three and me

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01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 3: filed for bankruptcy and the genetic data that they held

2052
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 3: that was put up for sale as an asset. So

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01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 3: the idea that you sell data is not too crazy, right,

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01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 3: So there's a possibility this happens now until they actually

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Speaker 3: say whether they're gonna do it or not. I'm not

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01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 3: terribly stressed about it, to be honest, because you know what,

2057
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 3: our data's out there anyway when you hand our data

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Speaker 3: out to Facebook for free and Instagram and stuff. So

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01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 3: if you if you're handing you your data to Google,

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01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 3: you can hardly be all that stressed out of Flyby

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01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 3: starts unselling your data. But can I be honest with you,

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01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 3: it is how annoyed are you when all of a

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01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 3: sudden you know someone sold your data, because all of

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01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 3: a sudden you get like five spam emails into your

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01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 3: inbox going hi, Heather, yo should buy this? And you're like,

2066
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 3: where'd you get where you email address from? And you

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01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 3: just know somebody sold you and it's just like, it's

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Speaker 3: not the end of the world. I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 3: not gonna like privacy commissioner. You're like, oh, you know,

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01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:52,280
Speaker 3: like drama biometric information. Not worried about it. It's just

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01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 3: a fath, isn't it, Because now you know you're gonna

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01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 3: get this blinking email every few weeks and it's gonna

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01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 3: sit there and clog up young mbox now you need

2074
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 3: to go and find the unsubscribed the bottom of the

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01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:05,600
Speaker 3: email and unsubscribe and tell them I never signed up

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01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 3: to this. This is why it's just like time is

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01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 3: just irritating. So anyway, it's not the end of the world,

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01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 3: but Flybys, if you could please just not sell it

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01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 3: because I cannot be bother dealing with the emails that

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Speaker 3: are an income, that would be really great.

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Speaker 9: Thanks.

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Speaker 22: Corder two.

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Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you

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01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:27,440
Speaker 1: the business hour with hither duplicyl and theirs, insurance and investments,

2085
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 1: grow your wealth, protect your future.

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Speaker 4: Newstalks d be in.

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Speaker 3: The brady Are UK correspondence with us into Hello.

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Speaker 9: Hey Hea, They're great to speak to you again.

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Speaker 3: Now what do you make of this UK Supreme Court

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Speaker 3: ruling on women?

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Speaker 9: It's huge for anyone who hasn't seen this. The headline

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01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 9: in the Daily Telegraph here today spells it out very bluntly.

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01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 9: Trans women are not women. That is the upshot of

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01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 9: this ruling. It's the highest court in the land. Obviously,

2095
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 9: the debate has been going on for years, if not

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Speaker 9: decades at this stage, but we now have it in law.

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Speaker 9: So this case was brought ultimately by a very gender

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Speaker 9: critical feminist group called four Women Scotland. They took it

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Speaker 9: against the government. It's ended up all the way to

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Speaker 9: the Supreme Court and five judges have studied all the

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Speaker 9: arguments and they say that you were a woman based

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Speaker 9: on what you were born with your biological sex, So

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Speaker 9: trans women are not women. Now, away from the whole

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01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 9: kind of debate and society and the media, this will

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Speaker 9: have very significant impact for organizations across the country, from

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Speaker 9: businesses to sporting organizations, shared office space, bathrooms. It's very

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Speaker 9: very significant.

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Speaker 3: Do you think it will actually impet shade spaces and bathrooms? Like,

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Speaker 3: is it actually going to go into that.

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Speaker 9: I think this is just maybe the first kilometer of

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Speaker 9: a marathon. But by the time this law ruling shakes down,

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Speaker 9: I think every business and every organization in the UK

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Speaker 9: will absolutely have to abide by this because if they don't,

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Speaker 9: they will then find themselves in court and there will

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Speaker 9: be people citing this ruling as the basis of their argument.

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Speaker 3: Interesting trendstabad has really swung quite heavily from one extreme

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Speaker 3: to the other in recent years, hasn't it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't that long ago where this kind of conversation

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Speaker 3: will be a big no no and quite taboo, and

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Speaker 3: it's now swung very much in favor of susgendered women here.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, look, it's a huge debate, it's very volatile at times,

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Speaker 9: and certainly keep away from social media, Honus. You can

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01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 9: see all the people who are weighing in. But look

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Speaker 9: my own personal take, Heather, it's a short life.

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Speaker 3: Just try and be happy, yeah, try and be kind

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Speaker 3: as well. Okay, listen, So I see the Ministry of

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Speaker 3: Defenses bend all the Chinese made vehicles. What's the problem, spye.

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Speaker 9: They're worried about espionage and you just wonder. You know,

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Speaker 9: we're well into twenty twenty five now. These Chinese vehicles

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Speaker 9: and vehicles with Chinese components have been in the UK

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Speaker 9: for a long time, and military staff and personnel have

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Speaker 9: been driving them the same as any other citizen for

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Speaker 9: a long time. And we only find out today that

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Speaker 9: they've just recently banned them from mod sites. One particular

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Speaker 9: site is so sensitive people having Chinese vehicles have been

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Speaker 9: told to park two miles away. So the feeling is

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Speaker 9: that you know, they're they're tracking military personnel's movements. What

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Speaker 9: else is in these vehicles. You know, it's front page

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Speaker 9: news here today. But my only question is why has

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Speaker 9: it taken so long? We found out the weekend China's

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Speaker 9: game plan with British steel was to run it into

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Speaker 9: the ground. You know, all this Chinese investment we're seeing,

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Speaker 9: I think belatedly people in London and Westminster starting to

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Speaker 9: realize the China may not meet our friends after all.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, very very interesting. Hey, thanks very much, and they

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Speaker 3: really appreciate it. In the Brady, A happy Easter to

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Speaker 3: you in the Brady, our UK correspondent. Listen Chloe Swallbrick. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so it was an watching the old Benjamin Doyle Bussy

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Speaker 3: debate when I was on maternity leave. And it's been

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Speaker 3: interesting watching Chloe since then, because have you watched Chloe

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Speaker 3: since then? That's right, You've hardly heard anything from Chloe

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Speaker 3: or seen Chloe anywhere? Right am I? Right now? That

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Speaker 3: would be I think that this is the impression that

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Speaker 3: I've been left with just watching what's gone on. I

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Speaker 3: think Chloe has finally been exposed to some degree. Look,

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Speaker 3: Chloe Schoolbrick is an extremely talented politician, exceptional at what

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Speaker 3: she does, right, But eventually every single person who is

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Speaker 3: exceptional at their job will have a moment where they

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Speaker 3: are tested and it's the question of whether they can

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Speaker 3: rise to meet that moment or not. And I think

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Speaker 3: that was Chloe's big test, is here was something where

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Speaker 3: a lot of people are going to have an opinion

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Speaker 3: because a lot of us are parents, and we care

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Speaker 3: about children and we want to see that children are

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Speaker 3: not getting into weird and icky situations and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: And Chloe is not a parent. Chloe is a young

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Speaker 3: woman who is incredible at her job, but she is

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Speaker 3: not a parent, and I think that's where where things

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Speaker 3: kind of became a bit unstuck for her, because she

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Speaker 3: came to the defense of the Rainbow community and so

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Speaker 3: it's really weird stuff to try to cover for one

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Speaker 3: of her MP's and the rest of us, including the

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Speaker 3: Rainbow community, went mm nah, not call around the kids anyway.

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Speaker 3: So I just notice, I just think that that this

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Speaker 3: is the first kind, I think, the first significant time

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Speaker 3: we've seen Chloe completely misjudge a situation, and I think

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Speaker 3: that is why probably you're not hearing anything from Chloe

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Speaker 3: at the moment. And I don't think it's the end

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Speaker 3: of her political career by any kind of stretch.

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Speaker 14: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just a tiny little speed bump in

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Speaker 3: her assunsion because I think she is very, very good

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Speaker 3: at what she does. But I think we found out

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Speaker 3: where Chloe's weak spot is, which is, yeah, doesn't understand,

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Speaker 3: doesn't understand anything about kids. Seven Away from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Topless allan Drive full show podcast on

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Speaker 3: Five Away from seven. Now, no answants to play his music.

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Speaker 3: But before he plays his music, which he's been thinking

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Speaker 3: about all day, It's taken all day to think about it.

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Speaker 3: He's very very excited.

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Speaker 7: An easy job, Heather, But I think I do all right.

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Speaker 3: You do do it now. You do an excellent job.

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Speaker 3: You'd have to, given how long you've been thinking about it. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: I told you yesterday that Wellington Remember we were talking

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Speaker 3: yesterday about how Wellington Water was offering free skincare checks

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Speaker 3: for staff and got a few text people like I

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Speaker 3: don't want to spend and I said, look, I think

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Speaker 3: it's kind of normal. Well, guess what arrived in my

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Speaker 3: n box today, High team. We're really excited. This is

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Speaker 3: from the bosses. By the way, we're really excited to

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Speaker 3: be teaming up with the Skin Institute to bring free

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Speaker 3: skin cancer spot checks at Auckland Central on Wednesday, thirtieth

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Speaker 3: of April on Level one, making it easier than ever

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Speaker 3: to stay on top of your skin health. And Laura,

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Speaker 3: the Germans already booked in, and I'm going to book

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Speaker 3: in because I'm going to take its free. See it's normal,

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Speaker 3: it is not. We don't even work outdoors. How did

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Speaker 3: we qualify for this, Laura? We work indoors. Anyway, whatever,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to complain ants.

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Speaker 7: What do you got another one from yesterday here that we'

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Speaker 7: of course had that infamous note that was left on

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Speaker 7: the bonnet of the Beatle and the person was complaining of.

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Speaker 3: The dak Shane Curry.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Shane Curry has picked the story up here, just

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Speaker 7: picked it right. And I thought, since I slagged Nick

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Speaker 7: Mills off yesterday, I better get to the bottom of this.

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Speaker 7: And Nick Mills has submitted a handwriting sample. I got

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Speaker 7: him to write NICKI Minaj and I can say Nick

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Speaker 7: is definitely innocent. And his producer, he thing Grippits to

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Speaker 7: write ad ay handwriting sample as well. According to Shane's article,

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Speaker 7: we are really free with the n z ME notepads.

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Speaker 7: Apparently we just hand them out to everyone. So that's

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Speaker 7: the one that's going out, is that it could be

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Speaker 7: anybody because we just were Apparently it's just the easiest

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Speaker 7: thing in the world to get hold off. Anyone need

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Speaker 7: a notepad. It was a lady's handwriting, though, wasn't it.

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Speaker 7: No Ethan's for handwriting, Ethan Griffeth's third next producer, It

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Speaker 7: wasn't that far off, but yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: But he got a lady's handwriting.

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Speaker 7: Well, just the way he looped the g was. I

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Speaker 7: was like, oh, hang on, here we go. We've got him.

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Speaker 7: But the m's were all wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Women's handwriting is often called fluihy, isn't it, And

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Speaker 3: men's just like blip, like pedestrian, like a block.

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Speaker 7: Anyway, I Brick and aber By Lady Gaga to play

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Speaker 7: us out tonight because she was the one everyone was

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Speaker 7: talking about after the first weekend of Coachella. So if

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Speaker 7: you've got nothing to do over the weekend, the live

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Speaker 7: stream should start it all an am on Saturday. It's

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Speaker 7: all running on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Hey, safe driving this Easter, Stay safe on the roads,

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Speaker 3: look after yourselves, and eat heaps of chocolate. See you

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Speaker 3: on Tuesday.

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