1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, local and 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: global exposure. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Like no other whither. Have you got an update on 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: the Gang funeral? Actually got an interesting thing to tell 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: you about the Gang funeral. 6 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: Didn't realize. 7 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: But my maid is the guy who my mate Fats 8 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: has died, and I'll tell you about that. He's the 9 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: guy the tongue he is for with us. Right now 10 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: on the huddle, we've got Tris Shurson Shirson, Willis pr 11 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: and Joe Spagani Child Fund CEO. Hello you two. 12 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 3: Hello, Hello Josie. 13 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: What's your vibe on the US election? We had Jack 14 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: on before this is Jack Tame. I asked him who's 15 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: going to win? Jess, it was like pulling teeth. He 16 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: didn't want to say Trump's gonna win, but but he 17 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 2: kind of got there in the end. 18 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 4: What do you think, Well, if you listen to someone 19 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 4: like Nate Silver, who's one of the most famous, well known, 20 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 4: respected polsters in America, he was asked exactly that question 21 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 4: gets asked all the time. He said, it's fifty to fifty. 22 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 4: Anyone who says they know anything more than that is 23 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 4: probably lying or making it up. But if you're asking 24 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 4: me what my what my gut instinct is, what the 25 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 4: vibe is, I'd say Trump's gonna win, so, you know 26 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 4: I But the big thing about that, so I do 27 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 4: think that Trump's got got an uptick in the last 28 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 4: week or so. But the thing I would say against 29 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 4: that is that whoever gets the turnout, whoever turns out 30 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 4: their vote, will win. It's so so close. And you know, 31 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 4: Elon Musk can offer people a million dollars every day 32 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 4: and so on, but he's got absolutely no experience of 33 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 4: the boring hard work of building a campaign where literally 34 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 4: I can tell you either I've done it many times. 35 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,919 Speaker 4: On election day, you do about three sweeps of a street. 36 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 4: You get a few streets. Your job is to get 37 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 4: Missus Jones from number fifty six on Main Street to 38 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 4: the polling booth. You know exactly who your voters are 39 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 4: in that street. 40 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: You don't bother with the one so foreign interference there 41 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: were you the very. 42 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: Foreign Yeah, Eketahuna and tay Happy. No, not that far. 43 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 4: But this is four elections. I've worked on it. But 44 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 4: you know that takes a lot. You don't just build 45 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 4: that in the last few weeks. You build it over 46 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 4: months and months and months with volunteers who will do 47 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 4: that work and whoever has that machine when and the 48 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 4: Dems have that to their advantage. 49 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, what do you think, Trisha? 50 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: I think it is too close to call and that's 51 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: why no one is willing to pick it. You know, 52 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: there's a lot of talk about whether and like last 53 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: time Trump won, whether the polls are in fact under 54 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: underpicking him because they're not getting out to the right 55 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: the right voters. In terms of Josie's point, you know, 56 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: Carmena Harris has got a huge on the ground team. 57 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 3: They have had an app for their their daughter door canvases, 58 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: so they go into an area, they get off a bus, 59 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: they've got a app on their phones that tells them 60 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: exactly which door they need to knock on and they'll 61 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: be going back on election day because they are they 62 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: are actually offering people rides to the polls. What's been 63 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: interesting in the past few is to look at how 64 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 3: the campaign has turned. So Trump has been turning, as 65 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: one commentator said, to vulgarity and viral stunts. His languaging 66 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 3: is getting more and more sort of gross, and those 67 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: on his team and on the other side you have 68 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: got Kamela Harris turning out star Power with the likes 69 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 3: of Michelle Obama in recent days, really going hard on 70 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: women and reproductive rights. And you've also had Republican Liz 71 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: Cheney turning out for Harris in the past week, which 72 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: has been really interesting because that message has been to 73 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: Republicans who don't want to They don't want to vote 74 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: for Trump, but they don't want to admit that they 75 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: would vote for the Democrats. So you know, there's just 76 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: so much in play for the election. 77 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 4: It's a fascinating What's really interesting is that I saw 78 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: some research that the attack ads that have gone out 79 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 4: against Trump, you know, he's a fascist, are that they're 80 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 4: really ineffective because his supporters already know that he's despicable 81 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 4: and he's not a nice guy. So they're rationalizing it 82 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: like like John Key has He's gone, look, I know 83 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 4: he's not a nice guy, but I like the tax cuts. 84 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 4: So the attack ads don't work. What but but it's 85 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 4: not the same for Kamala's. So if Trump's campaign doesn't 86 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 4: attack ad on Kamala, that works really well, and they 87 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 4: go out and say, oh, she's failed, she's weak, she's 88 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 4: dangerously liberal. That works quite well. The ads that work 89 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: the best for Kamala are Buddy, the working class guy 90 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 4: who's shown listening to Trump, going, you guys are rich 91 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 4: as hell. These are to you know, billionaires, I'm going 92 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 4: to give you a tax cut, and Buddy says, well, 93 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 4: I'm not rich as hell and I need a tax cut. 94 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 4: So anything that's targeting the working class on economy and 95 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 4: cost of living it works for the Democrats. But not 96 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: attacking Trump. 97 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a very good point actually that you've made. Right, 98 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: They're right, we'll take a break, come back sixteen away 99 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 2: from six. 100 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Sotheby's International Realty Elevate the 101 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: marketing of your home on the Huddle. 102 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: With Us Trishuson and Josephganny. Trisha, do we need to 103 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 2: take the socials off? 104 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: Ginny? 105 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 3: Well as as a starting point. I mean, anyone facing 106 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: into the wind for a photo is going to look 107 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 3: like a vacuum packed lamb chop, aren't they. I thought, 108 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 3: I thought that that was pretty pretty silly and unfair, 109 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: And in fact, when I saw it that there were 110 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: two things that stuck out to me. One is I thought, gee, 111 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: poor old King Charles. He looks pretty old and thin 112 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: on it, and considering that he's been battling cancer this year, 113 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 3: that's no surprise. And then the other thing that I 114 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 3: noticed in that photo lurking in the background of it, yep, 115 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 3: was a navel. Was a naval vessel. And I thought 116 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 3: it's sort of a you know, it's sort of almost 117 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: you know, a ghostly image. Considering what happened to our 118 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 3: mana we nui over there. 119 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: What you're trying to say, Trish, is you didn't even 120 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: look at his crotch, did you? 121 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 3: No? No, I did it. 122 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: I didn't. 123 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: No, I didn't think. I did think that about I 124 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: truly thought that though about the suit when you're facing 125 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 3: into the wind and any you know, as a woman, 126 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 3: you'd never do that with your best frock on. But 127 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: also I do think, you know, one of the things 128 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: that people get caught out on so often was social 129 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: not actually posting themselves, but liking a dumb tweet or 130 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: or a dumb post or re sharing. 131 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 2: It without thinking, Yeah, I sort of feel like Josie, 132 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 2: there should be you know, like everybody's got some rules. 133 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: Right the minute that I start drinking, I do not drive. 134 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: I don't have an argument because it'll just go badly. 135 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: You know, you've got to have I don't send messages 136 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: to people because it's a bad idea. And I feel 137 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: like politicians should have a rule. You can use the 138 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: social but don't like other people's stuff, no matter how 139 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: hilarious it is. 140 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and nothing good happens after midnight. So if you're 141 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 4: on Twitter x whatever it's called now and doing tweeting 142 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: and retweeting and liking, your being a bit daft. But 143 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 4: the interesting thing is Jenny Anderson's offense here is pretty 144 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 4: similar grade to that of Andrew Bailey, isn't it. And 145 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 4: yet you know, where are the calls for her resignation? 146 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: There aren't there. I do think the thing that gets 147 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 4: me about Jenny is not no. I think it's the 148 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: same level of nothingness. Really, I mean I don't I 149 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: think she's daft to have done that and she shouldn't 150 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: have done it, But I don't think it's you know, 151 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 4: it's a big issue. I think the bigger issue for 152 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 4: me about Jenny is when she was police minister. And 153 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 4: I think it's not just the you know, ill advised 154 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 4: comments on Mitchell as police minister that he'd killed people 155 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 4: and so on. It's not so much this and not 156 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 4: even this silly tweet. It's more do you remember back 157 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 4: in the ram raids last year? And I remember she 158 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 4: was police minister and she came out and said, no, no, 159 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: actually the statistics show that ramraids are continuing to trend 160 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 4: downwards and we're all feeling safer. And it was such 161 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 4: a jarring note from a police minister when everyone was going, 162 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 4: this is awful, and darianors we're having a problem. So 163 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 4: I think she's got bigger problems, and I think Labour 164 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 4: has bigger problems with her than simply her daft you know. 165 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: Rechai agree. It's weird that they haven't realized after about 166 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: seven years of her saying stupid stuff out loud, that 167 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: she's a liability. But maybe maybe they'll get there in 168 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: the end. Now, Trish, what are we going to do 169 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: about the mail situation? I'm very happy for New Zealand 170 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: Posts to literally never deliver another piece of mail to 171 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: my letter box and just shut the thing down. What 172 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: about you? 173 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: I am absolutely with you. I mean, I can't think 174 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 3: of the last time I got anything in the mail 175 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: that I actually wanted. Main things around here still are 176 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: real estate flyers. You still get the odd circular from 177 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 3: chemists particularly. You get a lot of those, and often 178 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 3: it is it's tickets or something that you. 179 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 4: Really don't want. 180 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 3: Everything else is online, and I think for New Zealand 181 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: Post it's one of those things where they probably need 182 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: to make a pretty deep cut and get ahead of 183 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: it rather than you know, constantly what feels like cutting 184 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: back on on service. And these days, you know, I 185 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 3: was thinking, while you're in the back of the day, 186 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 3: you loved getting a letter. But these days, even with 187 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: your older friends and relatives, you just jump on FaceTime 188 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: with them. 189 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 4: And every time I see the mailbox full of stuff, 190 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 4: my heart sinks because it's either a bill, a traffic fine, 191 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 4: hospital test result, or direct marketing, none of which are welcome. 192 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 4: So I don't want any of it. But for some reason, 193 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 4: banks still send bank statements, but I know you can 194 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: select not to. 195 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: I don't get that nut. 196 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 4: Oh I'm still getting bank sas. But yeah, the point 197 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 4: is that is it obviously is fading out a bit 198 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 4: like checks, right, But but you do have to phase 199 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 4: it out over time because you do have people in 200 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 4: sort of rural communities like I remember as an aide charity, 201 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 4: we had people sending donations with checks when the checks 202 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: were being phased out. So you've got to kind of 203 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 4: you've got to move slowly with this stuff, I guess. 204 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: But yeah, nothing good comes in the mailbox these days. 205 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: Too, right, nothing good at all. Thanks guys, appreciate it. 206 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: Trisius and Hurson, Willis, Pianrejo, Spaguani, Child and CEO. 207 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive, listen live to 208 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: news Talks it B from four pm weekdays, or follow 209 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio