1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:00,200 Speaker 1: Well. 2 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 2: Alan Tudick a big body work over the last thirty years, 3 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: Twenty eight Days, A Night's Tale, Firefly, dodge Ball, Death 4 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: of the Funeral. Lately he's the star of Resident Alien, 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: been part of the Star Wars universe voice work. He's 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: done pretty much every Disney animation film going anyway. Alan 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: Tudick's hitting here for the Armagaedin Expo, which is this 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: coming weekend, this long weekend, and is with us from 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: from Canada, from Vancouver, elentudic morning. What Ellen, I got 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: an insight into how this works. A guy's running this 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: arm again, right, He says, you're the man. When people 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: buying tickets at the moment, they say, I got to 13 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: meet Alan, Allen's the greatest. I can't wait to meet Alen. 14 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: What's the magic here? What do you got going? 15 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: You know, I've got answers. I've got answers to whatever 16 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: their questions are. 17 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 3: You know, usually it's simple stuff. How do you do 18 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: it well? If they're young, if their kids, you. 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: Know, I've done a lot of voices for animation, and 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: so I can do the voices for them. 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 3: And so for kids who like King Candy. 22 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 4: I can do King Candy for them, and they can 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 4: see that it's coming out of this weird person and 24 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 4: not the little man that they're used to in the 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 4: and in the movies, or the Duke of Washleton or 26 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 4: even the chicken. 27 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: Hey hey, I do him. And those are always the best. 28 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: When they're the kids, you get to see it, the 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: light in their eyes as they recognize their friends from 30 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: the movies. 31 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: How many of these do you do? I mean, is 32 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: this a global thing. There's a group of you guys 33 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: who sort of, you know, wonder the world. And I'm 34 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: a gidding yourself, silly. 35 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: Yes, I do a lot of them. 36 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: I do about probably ten a year, which is plenty 37 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: is enough, because they really it's like you're hosting a 38 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: party for a bunch of people you've never met. 39 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: They come up and you say, hey, Hi, how are you. 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: I'm so glad you're here. 41 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm glad to meet you, and then you have a 42 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: quick conversation, and then and there's someone else right behind them. 43 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: Hey, Hi, nice to meet you. I'm so glad you 44 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: made it, and it. 45 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: Just like after a party, there's a certain it takes 46 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: a little bit to sort of sift through all of 47 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: your experiences and figure out what just happened, So. 48 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: Ten is ten's a lot. 49 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: I'm thinking you've got to have like a natural disposition 50 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 2: in the sense that it's great to have achieved the 51 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: sort of success and fame you have, and it's nice 52 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: to be able to, you know, meet some of the 53 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: people who have helped you get there. But I also 54 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: know there's a lot of people inside a place like Hollywood. 55 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: You know, I really don't like the public or anyone 56 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: normal and they probably wouldn't be all that good at 57 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: a show like this. 58 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it requires a certain interest in your audience. I 59 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: guess it's the best thing. Like it's the only formalized 60 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: way to meet your meet people who've seen your work, 61 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: and it's I would encourage those if they're you know, 62 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: if any one of those people are out there and 63 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: hearing this right now, you should do it because when 64 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: you're on stage, which is great, you can hear the 65 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: immediate feedback and you have an opportunity to look out 66 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: and see the people and it's a shared experience. But 67 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: with movies and television, it happens in everybody's own time. 68 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: So I've met people and they've told me about profound 69 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: experiences they've had with their family connections to characters or 70 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: projects that I was a part of, and I would 71 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: never have known it had I not done these cons 72 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: And it really it's not an easy business, and it 73 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: makes it all worthwhile. 74 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: See. 75 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: I don't know whether this is one of these chicken 76 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: or egg things, but I see, I look at you, 77 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: and I listened to you, and you seem to me 78 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 2: like a guy who does voices. You know what I'm saying, 79 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: You know, like I just count work out what this is. 80 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: You got one of those expressive faces, and if I 81 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: meet you, I'd go, I reckon, you can probably do 82 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: some cool voices, and as it turns out, you can't. 83 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: How did all that stuff? 84 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: I did a play in New York where I played 85 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: twenty characters in the play, and since I had so 86 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: many to play, they all a lot of a lot 87 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: of times I would affect a voice for different people. 88 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: Well with the woman who's very upset and she came 89 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 4: on for one scene and. 90 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: Need it out because the boyfriend just left her and 91 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: her name was big Bone Judy, and then I have 92 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: to run and quickly changed my clothes. And I was 93 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: this guy from Chicago who worked at camera and he 94 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: had no. 95 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: Thumbs because of a lath accident. And also they sigh 96 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: and he pulled out an eye and then it would. 97 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: Just there was a French white hair. So early on 98 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: that was the first play I ever did in New York. 99 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: I was being asked to do these kinds of things 100 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: and everything just sort of led from there. 101 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: Science so gift when it comes to voices, a little bit. 102 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: Of both, a little bit of both, because I went 103 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: to drama school and they taught me how to how 104 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 1: sounds are made, you know, just phonetics, the basic science 105 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: of phonetics, where A the sound A is a combination 106 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: of ah and e, which does not make sense, but 107 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: if you break it down, you go eh a A. 108 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: It ends up happening. 109 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: So you start to pull sounds apart like that, and 110 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: then it makes accents easier and that's where you'll get 111 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: the basic. 112 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 3: Accent. 113 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: But then you have to fill it with whatever character 114 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: is in there. So that becomes about some some talents. 115 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: And are thy individual skills, you know, in terms of accent. 116 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: You just did that Chicago one. So is that a 117 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: skill which is separate from the chicken, which is separate 118 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: to an impersonation of somebody? 119 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, impersonations. 120 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm not great at you know, sometimes you'll guild you 121 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: can do one. 122 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: It just sort of happened upon you. You meet somebody 123 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, I can do that voice. 124 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: I did a play I did Spam a lot with 125 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: and Mike Nichols was around, and he talked like this 126 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: at that time in his life, he had this voice 127 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 1: and it was very it was a very distinct. Boys 128 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: and I could go on the on the what they 129 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: call the god mic that went into all of the 130 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: dressing rooms and. 131 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 3: Say, oh, everyone, it's Mike. I'll be here tonight and 132 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be watching and. 133 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: I could, I could tell them whatever, and they bought it. 134 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,559 Speaker 3: It was fun. It was great. 135 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: So sometimes you can luck into an impression. But and 136 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: a chicken, Gosh, is that an impression? 137 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. That's just I don't know a lot 138 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: of hope. 139 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: So the boys, wait, particularly, I'm fascinated him because some 140 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: animation creativity old of the evolution of this particular industry 141 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: and how that works. I mean, it is such a 142 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 2: major deal these days, isn't it. 143 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 3: Well? 144 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, it used to just be Disney. I mean, 145 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: well mostly Disney. You know, they were the they were 146 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: the big the big kid on the block. You have 147 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: Disney and Pixar, which are both Disney, but they are 148 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: different people. I always do Disney movies, Disney animation. 149 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 3: And I lucked out for me. 150 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: My evolution in doing voiceovers was through Disney. I did 151 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: King Candy and they said, we loved that. Can you 152 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: come do this movie we have called Frozen and it 153 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: became The Duke of Wastleton. Then after that they did 154 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: a big Hero six and there was this sort of 155 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 1: the he seemed like the evil guy of Alistair Cray 156 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: and he was just he was a businessman. And then 157 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: after that it was I think Zutopia, and I was 158 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: a little weasel. 159 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: So I've evolved. 160 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: They just keep asking me to do things and I 161 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: have to come up with a new voice, a new character, 162 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: new voice. But as far as how animation has progressed 163 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: over the last fifteen fifteen years, really has been more studios, 164 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: more influence coming from around the globe. I don't know 165 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: if you saw Blue Eyed Samurai that was on Netflix 166 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: over here. It was fantastic and just different types of animation, 167 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: and and so there's I love it. 168 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: There's just more and more and more and more. 169 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: It's it's cheaper for people to make on certain levels. 170 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: They don't have to pay actors as much, so and 171 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: there's I think, less risk. So people production companies are 172 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: willing to do a lot of animation, and so there's 173 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: a lot out there. 174 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 2: You sort of answered it. But do they hire you 175 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: with a character of voice, something specific in mind, or 176 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: do they go, look, you got a track record, so 177 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: you do with it what you will. 178 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: It can be either one. 179 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: If they trust me, if they just have an inherent 180 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: trust in me, they'll call me and say we want 181 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: to hire you to do this role. And then I 182 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: come in and we play around and find find a voice. Uh, 183 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:52,479 Speaker 1: or I have just gone in and yeah there was one. 184 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: I got a I got a weird request to be 185 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: Tesla's voice to do the Tesla robot. 186 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: And I didn't sign an nda, so I don't have to. 187 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: I can still say it. 188 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: But they were like, would Alan come in and so 189 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: that would have been an audition. So that would have 190 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: been the first step of me saying yes, I would 191 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: be interested in this, and then my guess is they 192 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: would have paid me to come work with them and 193 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: try to find a voice, and then my guess the 194 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: next step would be them saying no, we don't want 195 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: you and then ripping me off. 196 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: Anyway, that was how I saw it going. 197 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: My guess is now they're just going to skip that 198 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: middle part, just rip me off as much as they 199 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: want because they can scrape my voice from I Robot 200 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: or whatever. 201 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 2: Well, see hold on, hold on, hold on that. I mean, 202 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: that's question you got to ask in these interviews, isn't 203 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: the II question? And whether that bold as you warries you, 204 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: you sick and guess that what do you think? 205 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm I'm an artist, and I guess I don't. I 206 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: have a lot of faith in artists and that we 207 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: can do things that AI can't. People who know AI say, 208 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: oh no, no, they'll be able to do it. So 209 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: I'll see my my voice since I do so many 210 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: different voices when people don't, people don't say we want 211 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: an Allen two to style voice like they would with 212 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: Morgan Freeman. You know, Morgan Freeman will have that problem 213 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: because they can just copy it and it's not I've 214 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: heard some of these AI voices and you know we've 215 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: all heard them now they're everywhere. They don't sound right yet, 216 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: but I'm sure they can get close enough for a commercial. 217 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: You know, something that doesn't require emotion, if it's just listen, 218 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: you should drive a Honda almost whatever. Ay, this is 219 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: Morgan Friedman, which I cannot do. I can't do it. 220 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 3: This is what's it? All right? 221 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: Listen, you have a good time in Vancouver there and 222 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: we'll look forward to seeing you in the country and 223 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: maybe coming ceased. 224 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: When you hear all right, I look forward to it. 225 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,599 Speaker 2: Ellen out of Vancouver this morning and here for this weekends, 226 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: arm again in morning. Mike Ellen was really funny in 227 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: a night's title, and as the private gondoge Ball usually 228 00:10:59,160 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: done a lot of good work. 229 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 230 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: News Talk SETB from six a m. 231 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 3: Weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.