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Speaker 2: Hello you, Great New Zealands. Welcome to Matt and Tyler

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Speaker 2: Full Show Podcast number two eight eight for the sixteenth

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Speaker 2: of February twenty twenty six. It's a Monday all of

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Speaker 2: a show went off the rails with the alien chat

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Speaker 2: at the end after Barack Obama said that there were

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Speaker 2: definitely aliens, but then the interviewer and the States failed

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Speaker 3: Poor form, poor form, come on.

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Speaker 2: That interviewer should be hung, drawn and corded. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: the prenup chat was very very good as well. So

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Speaker 2: I think it's a really interesting, really interesting show today.

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Speaker 4: It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Squid Good News Talks, EDB News Talks ed be Welcome

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Speaker 3: into Monday Show. Have you had a fantastic we can

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Speaker 3: a great day? Have you with us? As always, Hey, you,

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Speaker 3: matt Hey Tyler.

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Speaker 2: Hello everyone. Now, last week I believe it was we

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Speaker 2: were having a discussion on this show about people not

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Speaker 2: understanding that they live really really well in the day

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Speaker 3: Great chat.

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Speaker 2: They because you can't see the wood for the trees,

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Speaker 2: I guess, you know, like the same thing as if

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Speaker 2: water because they don't know anything out one of those

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Speaker 3: Great analogy.

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Speaker 2: We had a really fantastic chat about it, and I

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Speaker 2: don't think I really articulated my point as well as

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Speaker 2: I wanted to. But Jimmy Carr, the comedian who's just

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Speaker 2: been through in New Zealand, and whilst he's very, very funny,

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Speaker 2: he's also a deep thinker. He's one of those great

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Speaker 2: And he summed up the point I was trying to

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Speaker 2: make so perfectly in a podcast that I thought might

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Speaker 2: as well go back and correctively make sense of what

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Speaker 2: I was trying to say last week. So got the

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Speaker 2: audio here. Listen to us.

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Speaker 5: You get used to how great your life is. No

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Speaker 5: one had a hot shower until fifty years ago. George Mack,

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Speaker 5: my friend, pointed this out to me. When you stand

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Speaker 5: in a hot shower, just for a moment, just go well,

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Speaker 5: no one that you admire from one hundred years ago

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Speaker 5: at the world that we live in, there's been one

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Speaker 5: hundred billion people ever right, we are in the top

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Speaker 5: had that the lives, like the calorific intake that we

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Speaker 5: just take for granted, the fact that our children don't die,

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Speaker 5: you know, in the first year in modern medicine, the

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Speaker 5: entertainment that we get. We're living like kings. And yet

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Speaker 5: life has never been objectively better and subjectively worse because

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Speaker 5: the nature of humanity is our desires are mimetic. So

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Speaker 5: we've got this thing where we sort of you know,

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Speaker 5: how happy are you, Well, it's your quality of life

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Speaker 5: And it's easy to look at everyone else and how

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Speaker 3: So well, put, isn't it. I mean, the.

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Speaker 2: Quality of your life is you know, your happiness is

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Speaker 2: So you look around and you cannot see how incredibly

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Speaker 2: then you minus your envy off that, and that's where

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Speaker 3: Gratitude, I mean so much to say for gratitude. Just

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was thinking about it when I was on

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Speaker 2: So you've got to be humble. Really, yeah, you've got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, their plane analogy is perfect. There's like I, like

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Speaker 2: But that's society, all of society. You're essentially sitting on

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Speaker 2: or complaining about the system or triunity of things down

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of truth in that.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, that was what we were trying to say

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Speaker 2: now that that's just clarifying, clarifying what we were talking

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Speaker 3: Yep, fantastic, Right on to today's show after three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: So hell of a thing for a former President of

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Speaker 2: It's a very frustrating interview. We've got some of that audio.

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Speaker 3: Is, Brian Tyler something.

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Speaker 2: What a muppet. He should be tasted. He should not

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 2: If you've got a president that has seen all the

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Speaker 3: You got to hear this audio, because seriously, I think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just talking about chips on a plane. Next

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Speaker 3: chat about prenups. So in New Zealand, under the property

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Speaker 3: But what does that really mean to ask? For one,

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Speaker 3: do pre nups indicate a lack of confidence in a relationship?

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Speaker 2: prenup is on one level at least saying I don't

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Speaker 3: it is well being and health. So to break down

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Speaker 2: See? I think it's all of them, right. I think

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Speaker 2: the message should be go hard in your twenties, get

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Speaker 2: Go hard in your social sports teams, go hard in

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Speaker 2: Do all of it?

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Speaker 2: Go hard all of it. Work long hours, do everything,

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Speaker 2: Thing is go hard. It doesn't go hard in your twenties.

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Speaker 2: The six says, so work hard, play hard, socially before

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Speaker 2: Do you tell people in their twenties look after your

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Speaker 7: And this was with us Act fewer departments, Yes or no?

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Speaker 8: Well, actually the bigger issue is how do you organize

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Speaker 7: You promised a lot on public service cuts, you and

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Speaker 8: I think there's been a massive amount of bureaucracy in

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Speaker 7: Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 3: Twenty eight Pass one, Dean, how are you?

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Speaker 6: I'm great, mate. I think you can have it all.

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Speaker 6: I don't see why you need to go hard on anything.

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Speaker 6: For example, you know wealth building, Well, guys, you just

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Speaker 3: Eat real food.

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Speaker 2: Everything in moderation. It's aid for saving thing. Go hard

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 2: I think it would be anyway, Matt, It would be

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Speaker 6: you're not going to miss it because you never had it.

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Speaker 2: So if we go to this survey and so Dean,

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Speaker 6: I'm sixty sixty.

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Speaker 2: So if you were looking back at someone in their twenties,

440
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Speaker 2: would you say, you know, because make it a binary

441
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Speaker 2: and obviously you know you're right. If you could do

442
00:19:44,933 --> 00:19:48,253
Speaker 2: the fitness and the socializing and the meeting people and

443
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Speaker 2: then and the everything and the saving, then great. But

444
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Speaker 2: if we make it a binary, and I'm not sure

445
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Speaker 2: how helpful it is, but this is what happened in

446
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Speaker 2: the survey. Would you say, focus more on your health

447
00:20:00,853 --> 00:20:02,533
Speaker 2: or your wealth if you were talking to people in

448
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Speaker 2: their twenties from from your perspective, Well, sound like a

449
00:20:05,133 --> 00:20:06,293
Speaker 2: successful guy wealth?

450
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well it's but guys, you can have it all.

451
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Speaker 6: Just be sensible about it. Eat well, yeah, save lots

452
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Speaker 6: of money. You socialized without getting stoned out of your tree.

453
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Speaker 2: But but you think that you can if you're going

454
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Speaker 2: to go hard at one point in your life. And

455
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Speaker 2: I keep shifting the goalpost around on your day, I

456
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Speaker 2: know in this conversation, but if you if you're going

457
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Speaker 2: to go hard and one point in your life, I

458
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Speaker 2: think drinking and doing your partying and doing a lot

459
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Speaker 2: of your physical stuff is better in your twenties, that

460
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Speaker 2: is the time to maybe tip the if it's all balanced,

461
00:20:39,893 --> 00:20:42,532
Speaker 2: to tip the balance a little bit towards the risky

462
00:20:42,853 --> 00:20:44,933
Speaker 2: in your twenties rather than in your forties when you

463
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Speaker 2: when your organs can't recover.

464
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Speaker 6: No, I don't. I mean, when you're doing those sorts

465
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Speaker 6: of things met in your younger years, you're setting yourself

466
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Speaker 6: up to failure and you're yeah, you're setting yourself at

467
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Speaker 6: your kidneys, giving away your your lungs, heaving it enough.

468
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Speaker 6: Yeah you basically, no, don't, don't go hard on the

469
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Speaker 6: chemical elements of socializing, don't. I mean, you can socialize

470
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Speaker 6: with it out, without the drugs, without the booze, you know,

471
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Speaker 6: without the cigarettes. You don't need those things. You can

472
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Speaker 6: have a great time and meet lots of people without

473
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Speaker 6: being off your face.

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Speaker 2: Now, can I just give you example of my life, Dean.

475
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Speaker 2: I was growing up and outside Dunedin and sort of

476
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Speaker 2: we're all upbringing and I really wanted to do something

477
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Speaker 2: spectacular with my life. So I started filming stunts with

478
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Speaker 2: my friends and eventually we got a television show on

479
00:21:32,893 --> 00:21:35,693
Speaker 2: TV and Z in New Zealand, just basically setting ourselves

480
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Speaker 2: on fire and doing a bunch of stupid stuff. So

481
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Speaker 2: potentially my view of going hard in twenties, has you know,

482
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Speaker 2: got that sort of success bias in't it? Possibly because

483
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Speaker 2: people that have a success in a certain way look

484
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Speaker 2: back and go that's the way to do it. But

485
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Speaker 2: there could be a hell of a lot of luck

486
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Speaker 2: involved as well.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're very lucky.

488
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Speaker 3: You've got a lot of metal in your body. To

489
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Speaker 3: prove it.

490
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Speaker 6: I am full of metal, whole spine, met I would

491
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Speaker 6: recommend that. I mean, it's like those people who say, right,

492
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Speaker 6: you know, I want to be a supermodel, Well, very

493
00:22:07,773 --> 00:22:10,173
Speaker 6: good luck. I don't like you're right, yeah, no matter

494
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Speaker 6: how no matter how good looking you are or whatever,

495
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Speaker 6: you know, there are very few self models. There, very

496
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Speaker 6: few people met you go like, you know, you know,

497
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Speaker 6: jackass type contestants to actually getting to a TV program.

498
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Speaker 6: I'd sus yes, that the proportion of jackasses to the

499
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Speaker 6: number of people can make it on the screen is

500
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Speaker 6: very small.

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Speaker 2: So we we're a group of lucky jackasses and Logan

502
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Speaker 2: Park High School.

503
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Speaker 3: And very true. Just on the on the work side

504
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Speaker 3: of things though, Dean, surely when you're in your twenties,

505
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Speaker 3: would you say that that is the time to go hard,

506
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Speaker 3: that you've got to be putting it all out there

507
00:22:41,573 --> 00:22:43,573
Speaker 3: and working as much as you're physically able to do,

508
00:22:43,613 --> 00:22:46,653
Speaker 3: whether that's building wealth or getting some good discipline behind you.

509
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Speaker 3: Surely that's an age where you want to want to

510
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Speaker 3: go hard in that realm.

511
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Speaker 6: Yep, yep, totally. I mean, you never lose both going

512
00:22:53,773 --> 00:22:57,973
Speaker 6: hard and productive things. Right if you're in a It

513
00:22:58,053 --> 00:23:00,333
Speaker 6: always pays to build your career, it always does. It

514
00:23:00,373 --> 00:23:03,413
Speaker 6: pays off later you build connections. You know, essentially that's

515
00:23:03,413 --> 00:23:05,853
Speaker 6: just being a nice person. Right now, you go and

516
00:23:05,893 --> 00:23:07,973
Speaker 6: you actually do more than you get paid for. It

517
00:23:08,333 --> 00:23:11,093
Speaker 6: anathemism many people, but you know you're actually paying you something,

518
00:23:11,133 --> 00:23:13,013
Speaker 6: so do a bit more, do a little bit more

519
00:23:13,653 --> 00:23:16,053
Speaker 6: of whatever it is. Well it is for a lot

520
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Speaker 6: of people, actually churning up for workers, going hard for people,

521
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Speaker 6: But you know it is important. You know, you've got

522
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Speaker 6: a social contract there, and I think that's an underlying

523
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Speaker 6: thing that a lot of us forget. There is a

524
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Speaker 6: social contract. You know, we've got all these social services

525
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Speaker 6: in that but the deal is you don't use them

526
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Speaker 6: unless you need them. You stop using them as soon

527
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Speaker 6: as you can, and you're happy to pay your taxes.

528
00:23:35,693 --> 00:23:38,213
Speaker 6: All very boring stuff, but eternally what boring works.

529
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you say play the numbers, play the numbers.

530
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Speaker 6: Yes, but you can do it all though, Matt. That's

531
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Speaker 6: the thing. You don't have to go hard on anything

532
00:23:45,613 --> 00:23:48,413
Speaker 6: except just do the right thing. And the right thing

533
00:23:48,493 --> 00:23:50,052
Speaker 6: is you're getting paid to do a job, then do

534
00:23:50,093 --> 00:23:53,573
Speaker 6: the job. You know, you're young, protect your organs so

535
00:23:53,613 --> 00:23:56,053
Speaker 6: you don't have to be crippled at forty five or

536
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Speaker 6: sixty or need a hit replacement or you know, a

537
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Speaker 6: liver transplant or whatever it is. That you don't need

538
00:24:01,613 --> 00:24:04,973
Speaker 6: to be crazy to have a great, successful life. You know,

539
00:24:05,013 --> 00:24:07,853
Speaker 6: you just have to you know, nice person to do

540
00:24:07,853 --> 00:24:08,253
Speaker 6: the things.

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Speaker 2: Good on your Dean, you're a voice of reason and

542
00:24:11,133 --> 00:24:12,333
Speaker 2: what a fantastic call.

543
00:24:12,413 --> 00:24:14,533
Speaker 3: A lot of wisdom and that I do believe.

544
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Speaker 2: I went hard on everything in my twenties.

545
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Speaker 3: Yep.

546
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Speaker 2: I just think I went hard in all directions and

547
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Speaker 2: I had the energy to do it.

548
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Speaker 3: No half measures, go full noise. What do you say, oh,

549
00:24:22,813 --> 00:24:24,653
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, Can you really get

550
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Speaker 3: the balance that Dean's talking about when you're younger or

551
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Speaker 3: do you need to go hard on every element of

552
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Speaker 3: your life as long as you can bounce back.

553
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Speaker 2: And I think the point is that Dean's probably talking

554
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Speaker 2: about the numbers game, and so you can get lucky

555
00:24:36,893 --> 00:24:39,413
Speaker 2: as you can get incredibly lucky. I remember, I remember

556
00:24:39,453 --> 00:24:43,773
Speaker 2: asking my career guidance counselor, you know, they said, what

557
00:24:43,773 --> 00:24:44,813
Speaker 2: do you want to do? And I said, I want

558
00:24:44,813 --> 00:24:46,693
Speaker 2: to be a rock star and they said, you can't

559
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Speaker 2: do that. What do you want to be? And I said,

560
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Speaker 2: I don't want to do anything else. That's all I

561
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Speaker 2: want to be.

562
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Speaker 3: They would have been fuel for you, though, they said

563
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Speaker 3: you can't be that, you'd be like, screw you. Well

564
00:24:54,373 --> 00:24:57,533
Speaker 3: they're right, but they're right though, Well you can't be Yeah,

565
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Speaker 3: well you wear a rock star for a we will,

566
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Speaker 3: but if.

567
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Speaker 2: You do the numbers, you can't be. So, you know what,

568
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Speaker 2: let's say what Dean said about being a supermodel. You

569
00:25:04,333 --> 00:25:07,413
Speaker 2: may be very good looking, and you know, only a

570
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Speaker 2: very small percentage of the very very good looking become

571
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Speaker 2: super models, if you know what I'm saying, very true headlines.

572
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Speaker 2: Sometimes luck can cloud your view of what the right

573
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Speaker 2: thing to do. And when you're giving advice to young people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good point. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty

575
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Speaker 3: is that number to call love to hear your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Railean. So we're talking about this

597
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Speaker 3: study surveyed a thousand rather kiwis and it found for

598
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Speaker 3: most kiwis, the most important listen to pass on to

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Speaker 3: young people was how to maintain a healthy lifestyle rather

600
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Speaker 3: than building up wealth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah so interesting. Sixty one percent of respondse said maintaining

602
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Speaker 2: a healthy lifestyle is the most important lesson to pass

603
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Speaker 2: on to young people essentially in their twenties. Doesn't actually

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Speaker 2: define exactly what they mean by young people, but I'm

605
00:27:01,253 --> 00:27:05,693
Speaker 2: saying that, you know, I mean, arguably, you know you're

606
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Speaker 2: stip young till you're seventy of these days.

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00:27:08,493 --> 00:27:09,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Speaking from a lifetime of wide experience at sixty eight

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Speaker 2: and feeling my age, I've played hard, worked hard, and

610
00:27:16,013 --> 00:27:18,013
Speaker 2: loved every minute of it. The only things you regret

611
00:27:18,053 --> 00:27:19,613
Speaker 2: in life are the things you don't do.

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Speaker 3: Cheers Tom nicely put.

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Speaker 2: I mean, because you can go hard without you know, socializing,

614
00:27:25,573 --> 00:27:27,813
Speaker 2: without vomiting everywhere, you know what I mean, Like that

615
00:27:27,853 --> 00:27:30,813
Speaker 2: woman beside me in that cave, concert can be tough. Yeah,

616
00:27:31,413 --> 00:27:34,973
Speaker 2: and that's the but you know going home every night

617
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Speaker 2: and just watching Netflix instead of going out to that

618
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Speaker 2: party to meet people or socializing with your workmates. Yeah,

619
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Speaker 2: you know you can work hard and go out and

620
00:27:43,133 --> 00:27:45,413
Speaker 2: socialize hard and make sure you stay part of a

621
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Speaker 2: social sports team and also go to the gym whatever

622
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Speaker 2: you can got. I think when your twenties is the

623
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Speaker 2: time when you can go hard on absolutely everything. This

624
00:27:55,333 --> 00:27:57,293
Speaker 2: guy is banging on a lot of support for Dean.

625
00:27:57,333 --> 00:27:59,493
Speaker 2: It was a great call. That guy's bang on ten

626
00:27:59,493 --> 00:28:03,333
Speaker 2: percent from the start. It's not either or like after

627
00:28:03,373 --> 00:28:05,093
Speaker 2: your look after your health and you'll be able to

628
00:28:05,133 --> 00:28:07,213
Speaker 2: build your wealth. Cheers, Tony. But I reckon you can

629
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Speaker 2: build back your health after you twenties. Young men often

630
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Speaker 2: confused survival with achievement.

631
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Speaker 3: This is so true.

632
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Speaker 2: And that's what I'm concerned that that's that my survival

633
00:28:16,653 --> 00:28:20,253
Speaker 2: has blinded my It's making a lot of sea. Yeah,

634
00:28:21,093 --> 00:28:22,973
Speaker 2: what you can survive and what you can achieve a

635
00:28:23,013 --> 00:28:26,053
Speaker 2: slightly different. It's a very good point, Tony Jamie. Welcome

636
00:28:26,053 --> 00:28:26,493
Speaker 2: to the show.

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Speaker 12: Hey guys.

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Speaker 13: First on, Paul, Oh.

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Speaker 3: Welcome man. Nice to have you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 13: We appreciate it when I was younger, I probably, yeah,

642
00:28:36,453 --> 00:28:40,693
Speaker 13: was quite excessive and got through that really early and

643
00:28:41,173 --> 00:28:46,573
Speaker 13: really used my twenties to try and claw ahead. Yep, yep,

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00:28:47,933 --> 00:28:49,533
Speaker 13: so carry.

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Speaker 2: On, sorry, no, no, no, you go. So I was

646
00:28:51,533 --> 00:28:53,293
Speaker 2: just asking there was a gap, and we jumped on

647
00:28:53,293 --> 00:28:55,213
Speaker 2: because we're radio. People were jumping and in the second

648
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Speaker 2: so we'll just let you talk. You say you're sorry, Jamie.

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Speaker 13: You know, so when I was twenty one, I pretty

650
00:29:00,453 --> 00:29:06,493
Speaker 13: much knocked everything on the head in just just concentrated

651
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Speaker 13: on trying to get ahead financially.

652
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Speaker 2: At what age was that, Jamie? At twenty one?

653
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Speaker 13: Did you say twenty one?

654
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Speaker 3: Early?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

656
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Speaker 13: It was early, but yeah, I just didn't want to

657
00:29:16,653 --> 00:29:19,333
Speaker 13: hit forty and install be sweating it out.

658
00:29:20,573 --> 00:29:22,893
Speaker 2: And so what did you what did you concentrate on, Jamie?

659
00:29:23,653 --> 00:29:27,093
Speaker 13: Just working pretty much. We was a contractor and you

660
00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:31,733
Speaker 13: just just concentrated on getting here, getting properties and still

661
00:29:31,733 --> 00:29:33,853
Speaker 13: had a family and spend as much time as in

662
00:29:34,293 --> 00:29:37,693
Speaker 13: them as I could. And then once I got to

663
00:29:37,773 --> 00:29:40,573
Speaker 13: mid forties, could relax a bit and then started hitting

664
00:29:41,293 --> 00:29:44,933
Speaker 13: everything hard again, you know, like I was twenty and

665
00:29:45,013 --> 00:29:49,413
Speaker 13: then got to show what one now fifty two, probably

666
00:29:49,493 --> 00:29:52,493
Speaker 13: three years ago just stopped drinking again. I just found

667
00:29:52,893 --> 00:29:53,693
Speaker 13: I couldn't handle it.

668
00:29:55,133 --> 00:29:59,213
Speaker 2: I mean, you sound like you've got what good good

669
00:29:59,253 --> 00:30:01,733
Speaker 2: self discipline, right, You've got self control. So when you

670
00:30:01,853 --> 00:30:05,333
Speaker 2: decide that something's important, you can focus on it. Because

671
00:30:05,453 --> 00:30:08,773
Speaker 2: at twenty one to go to have the purity, I

672
00:30:08,853 --> 00:30:10,973
Speaker 2: guess to say, I'm going to concentrate on my business

673
00:30:11,053 --> 00:30:14,973
Speaker 2: and my contract ding and and just work hard all

674
00:30:14,973 --> 00:30:18,253
Speaker 2: the way up to forty five. That that's not a

675
00:30:18,813 --> 00:30:21,573
Speaker 2: lot of twenty one year olds even thinking in that realm, Jamie.

676
00:30:21,573 --> 00:30:23,333
Speaker 2: So have you got any idea why you were different?

677
00:30:24,133 --> 00:30:24,733
Speaker 2: Because you must.

678
00:30:24,853 --> 00:30:28,173
Speaker 13: I think like I'm being brought up on building sites

679
00:30:28,253 --> 00:30:31,533
Speaker 13: and seeing you know, old books that I called old

680
00:30:31,573 --> 00:30:36,453
Speaker 13: and they were fifty Yeah, couldn't walk, you know this

681
00:30:36,573 --> 00:30:39,493
Speaker 13: bug there, but they were still going work, going to

682
00:30:39,573 --> 00:30:43,053
Speaker 13: the pub every day. And yeah, I just didn't think

683
00:30:43,173 --> 00:30:46,693
Speaker 13: it was yeah, going to work out. And I think

684
00:30:46,853 --> 00:30:52,453
Speaker 13: being twenty was probably the most strength, the most of

685
00:30:52,573 --> 00:30:55,133
Speaker 13: everything I had. So I thought, hey, you know, I'll

686
00:30:55,173 --> 00:30:58,853
Speaker 13: put this into work because I can always drink later on.

687
00:30:59,373 --> 00:31:01,933
Speaker 13: And it just, yeah, it really worked out. Like I'm

688
00:31:02,893 --> 00:31:06,933
Speaker 13: pushing fifty two and knocking on the door of retirement.

689
00:31:07,573 --> 00:31:07,773
Speaker 14: Wow.

690
00:31:08,013 --> 00:31:09,613
Speaker 3: Well, but Yeah, it's a good place to be in,

691
00:31:09,613 --> 00:31:11,293
Speaker 3: a very good place to be in. Did you feel

692
00:31:11,373 --> 00:31:13,933
Speaker 3: like you're missed out on anything when you stop drinking

693
00:31:13,973 --> 00:31:14,453
Speaker 3: in your twenties?

694
00:31:14,533 --> 00:31:16,773
Speaker 13: Jami kind of yes.

695
00:31:17,093 --> 00:31:17,253
Speaker 10: Year.

696
00:31:19,013 --> 00:31:20,933
Speaker 13: You know, I definitely did that. I think just having

697
00:31:21,053 --> 00:31:23,893
Speaker 13: blinkers on and having plan as to really what I

698
00:31:23,973 --> 00:31:26,533
Speaker 13: wanted to achieve, and knowing that I didn't want to

699
00:31:27,493 --> 00:31:31,933
Speaker 13: get to fifty and still had to be slugging it

700
00:31:32,013 --> 00:31:35,773
Speaker 13: out there week to week, week to week, and just

701
00:31:36,053 --> 00:31:38,773
Speaker 13: being able to, hey, get to fifty and relax and

702
00:31:38,853 --> 00:31:43,293
Speaker 13: maybe live a bit freer a bit earlier rather than

703
00:31:43,453 --> 00:31:46,933
Speaker 13: get to sixty five seventy and then just starting to relax,

704
00:31:47,013 --> 00:31:48,093
Speaker 13: if you know what I'm trying to say.

705
00:31:48,293 --> 00:31:50,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you have make good connections in your twenty

706
00:31:50,613 --> 00:31:54,613
Speaker 2: the Jamie with other people? Did you make good connections,

707
00:31:54,693 --> 00:31:57,413
Speaker 2: good group of friends, strong family, that kind of thing.

708
00:31:58,293 --> 00:32:01,413
Speaker 13: You know, I'm family's just definitely strong. Yeah, you know,

709
00:32:01,613 --> 00:32:03,413
Speaker 13: and that was pretty much the focus. And then you know,

710
00:32:03,453 --> 00:32:06,853
Speaker 13: I had kids when I was mid twenties and gave

711
00:32:06,893 --> 00:32:09,973
Speaker 13: me a lot of focus doing that, and I've probably

712
00:32:10,093 --> 00:32:13,973
Speaker 13: not been hung over on the weekends and you know,

713
00:32:14,053 --> 00:32:15,773
Speaker 13: not being able to do with things with kids because

714
00:32:16,093 --> 00:32:16,973
Speaker 13: you're not feeling.

715
00:32:16,813 --> 00:32:17,093
Speaker 15: Up to it.

716
00:32:17,453 --> 00:32:20,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a real trap that can happen,

717
00:32:21,093 --> 00:32:22,973
Speaker 2: and I think you see it on building sites. Right,

718
00:32:23,053 --> 00:32:26,213
Speaker 2: So people work a really really hard week and then

719
00:32:26,333 --> 00:32:29,893
Speaker 2: beers arrive for four o'clock on a Friday. You end

720
00:32:30,013 --> 00:32:32,613
Speaker 2: up sitting with the same guys drinking heavily, and then

721
00:32:32,653 --> 00:32:34,973
Speaker 2: you end up going out to a bar and drinking,

722
00:32:35,293 --> 00:32:38,373
Speaker 2: and then you wake up on Saturday and you feel terrible,

723
00:32:38,933 --> 00:32:40,693
Speaker 2: maybe have some few beers, and then you're back at

724
00:32:40,733 --> 00:32:42,893
Speaker 2: work and you haven't. It's not that you're going hard

725
00:32:43,133 --> 00:32:45,733
Speaker 2: in such a way that you meet people and find opportunities,

726
00:32:45,813 --> 00:32:47,973
Speaker 2: but just that you end up in a groundhog day

727
00:32:48,053 --> 00:32:49,733
Speaker 2: kind of situation you.

728
00:32:49,733 --> 00:32:53,613
Speaker 13: Didn't know exactly. Like before I stop drinking, you know

729
00:32:53,773 --> 00:32:55,933
Speaker 13: the second time when I I think I just turned

730
00:32:56,013 --> 00:32:57,133
Speaker 13: forty nine, that's.

731
00:32:57,013 --> 00:32:57,613
Speaker 2: Three years ago.

732
00:32:58,413 --> 00:33:00,893
Speaker 13: Is say I'd go home here three beers every day

733
00:33:00,933 --> 00:33:04,173
Speaker 13: and it's all good, and go go out and hit

734
00:33:04,213 --> 00:33:09,173
Speaker 13: the excess on the weekends and just yeah, I've got

735
00:33:09,253 --> 00:33:12,493
Speaker 13: up and then sort of shit, I can't do this anymore,

736
00:33:13,013 --> 00:33:15,413
Speaker 13: Like I don't kind of remember being drunk now, but

737
00:33:16,013 --> 00:33:17,773
Speaker 13: then I remember what the hangovers.

738
00:33:17,453 --> 00:33:20,013
Speaker 2: So yeah, well that's The key to giving up drinking

739
00:33:20,133 --> 00:33:23,093
Speaker 2: is to concentrate heavily on the hangover and not the

740
00:33:23,293 --> 00:33:26,773
Speaker 2: immediate relaxation feel you get from booze yep, Because if

741
00:33:26,813 --> 00:33:29,093
Speaker 2: you start looking at alcohol as the poison that it is,

742
00:33:29,813 --> 00:33:31,973
Speaker 2: then you know you're not so excited about it. If

743
00:33:32,013 --> 00:33:33,653
Speaker 2: you can just if you look at it, take a

744
00:33:33,693 --> 00:33:36,773
Speaker 2: slip and go and try and focus on the hangover.

745
00:33:36,973 --> 00:33:39,613
Speaker 2: Think about the hangover. It's a very different experience. Hey, Jamie,

746
00:33:39,653 --> 00:33:41,453
Speaker 2: thank you so much for calling. You're a great caller.

747
00:33:42,253 --> 00:33:43,533
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us on the show for the

748
00:33:43,573 --> 00:33:46,533
Speaker 2: first time, and call back anytime because I really enjoyed

749
00:33:46,573 --> 00:33:49,173
Speaker 2: chatting to you, Bud not thanks Christ Thanks.

750
00:33:49,493 --> 00:33:51,373
Speaker 3: I enjoyed that early retirement as well. Oh eight one

751
00:33:51,413 --> 00:33:53,613
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call love

752
00:33:53,653 --> 00:33:55,493
Speaker 3: to hear from you. If you could talk to your

753
00:33:55,533 --> 00:33:57,693
Speaker 3: younger self, what would be more important for you wealth

754
00:33:57,853 --> 00:33:59,813
Speaker 3: or health? Or were you one of those people that

755
00:33:59,933 --> 00:34:01,973
Speaker 3: just wanted to do it all? Nine two ninety two

756
00:34:02,053 --> 00:34:04,213
Speaker 3: is the text as well. Beg fory surely it is

757
00:34:04,293 --> 00:34:05,373
Speaker 3: thirteen to two.

758
00:34:08,413 --> 00:34:11,933
Speaker 1: Rash take on Talkback Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons

759
00:34:12,093 --> 00:34:15,772
Speaker 1: with Skoda play scter codes every day at Scoda dot

760
00:34:15,853 --> 00:34:16,693
Speaker 1: co dot NSAD.

761
00:34:17,133 --> 00:34:19,573
Speaker 4: Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

762
00:34:19,693 --> 00:34:20,533
Speaker 4: news talks'd be.

763
00:34:20,813 --> 00:34:22,732
Speaker 3: Ten to two. Some great teas coming through on nine

764
00:34:22,813 --> 00:34:23,333
Speaker 3: two ninety two.

765
00:34:23,493 --> 00:34:26,333
Speaker 2: I didn't start saving for old age in my twenties.

766
00:34:26,373 --> 00:34:28,893
Speaker 2: You think you'll live forever until around thirty five. So true,

767
00:34:28,933 --> 00:34:31,333
Speaker 2: Then you realize I partied and traveled till I was forty,

768
00:34:31,373 --> 00:34:32,773
Speaker 2: then arrived back in New Zealand and put my head

769
00:34:32,813 --> 00:34:36,053
Speaker 2: down to work. Things aren't too bad now, Paul nice,

770
00:34:36,453 --> 00:34:38,573
Speaker 2: Yeah at work. There you go. This Texas is once

771
00:34:38,573 --> 00:34:42,013
Speaker 2: again a horrible message from matte Oh work hard, drink hard,

772
00:34:42,093 --> 00:34:44,732
Speaker 2: play hard. You were once again telling people to take

773
00:34:44,853 --> 00:34:47,813
Speaker 2: risks with their lives and what world is risk better

774
00:34:47,893 --> 00:34:50,093
Speaker 2: than safety? You won't read this out?

775
00:34:50,493 --> 00:34:52,493
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, Y take that?

776
00:34:53,173 --> 00:34:55,773
Speaker 2: Oh well, I will read it out if you wait

777
00:34:55,813 --> 00:34:58,373
Speaker 2: and see. But people need to do the opposite of

778
00:34:58,413 --> 00:35:05,533
Speaker 2: what Matt Heath says, stay safe children, yep, being and

779
00:35:05,653 --> 00:35:07,733
Speaker 2: what world has risk better than safety? If no one

780
00:35:07,813 --> 00:35:11,053
Speaker 2: takes any risk, then absolutely nothing will happen because on

781
00:35:11,173 --> 00:35:15,733
Speaker 2: the on the edge of of of risk and safety

782
00:35:15,893 --> 00:35:20,773
Speaker 2: is where all innovation happens, where all excitement happens. I

783
00:35:20,853 --> 00:35:23,293
Speaker 2: mean if you never took a risk on anything at all,

784
00:35:23,613 --> 00:35:25,093
Speaker 2: if you never took a risk to go up to

785
00:35:25,213 --> 00:35:28,333
Speaker 2: that pretty girl at a bar and say can I

786
00:35:28,413 --> 00:35:31,333
Speaker 2: get you a drink, then I wouldn't have the partner

787
00:35:31,333 --> 00:35:31,733
Speaker 2: I have now.

788
00:35:31,973 --> 00:35:32,373
Speaker 3: Very true.

789
00:35:32,493 --> 00:35:34,933
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of risks that are good. I mean,

790
00:35:35,093 --> 00:35:38,133
Speaker 2: safe is just sitting at home. Safe is staying in bed.

791
00:35:38,413 --> 00:35:40,453
Speaker 3: I think on there there's study after study that would

792
00:35:40,453 --> 00:35:43,653
Speaker 3: show those with a higher risk appetite are more successful

793
00:35:43,653 --> 00:35:45,133
Speaker 3: in life. I mean you can go look them up.

794
00:35:45,133 --> 00:35:47,373
Speaker 3: I'll find one of those studies, but there's there's multiple

795
00:35:47,373 --> 00:35:49,373
Speaker 3: of them. They start on early when that when you

796
00:35:49,493 --> 00:35:52,213
Speaker 3: know their children. There's famous studies about it that how

797
00:35:52,293 --> 00:35:54,013
Speaker 3: much risk are they willing to take them they track

798
00:35:54,053 --> 00:35:56,093
Speaker 3: them through life. In fact, I think it's part of

799
00:35:56,133 --> 00:35:58,413
Speaker 3: the de need and Longer judinal study that they find

800
00:35:58,453 --> 00:36:00,933
Speaker 3: that those people who have a higher level of risk

801
00:36:01,013 --> 00:36:03,573
Speaker 3: but not an extreme level at risk always are the

802
00:36:03,613 --> 00:36:05,573
Speaker 3: ones that are better because they take more chance.

803
00:36:05,773 --> 00:36:07,853
Speaker 2: And the time to take risk is when you're you know,

804
00:36:08,093 --> 00:36:10,973
Speaker 2: to embrace risk is in your twenties, when you don't

805
00:36:11,013 --> 00:36:13,653
Speaker 2: have the same responsibilities. You know, try a lot of

806
00:36:13,733 --> 00:36:16,933
Speaker 2: different things until you find the things that work for you.

807
00:36:17,253 --> 00:36:19,853
Speaker 2: Make mistakes, you know, come up with the ideas, you know,

808
00:36:20,533 --> 00:36:23,133
Speaker 2: experience things. The six says no, no, no, Do not

809
00:36:23,253 --> 00:36:25,973
Speaker 2: listen to Matt. That is another one. Do not drink

810
00:36:25,973 --> 00:36:29,093
Speaker 2: in your twenties. Seriously, do not drink alcohol. It is poison.

811
00:36:29,213 --> 00:36:32,013
Speaker 2: You will assault people. Drink people do bad things. Stop

812
00:36:32,093 --> 00:36:34,773
Speaker 2: telling people to drink. No, some drunk people do bad things.

813
00:36:34,853 --> 00:36:37,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a history there. You will assault people automatically

814
00:36:37,413 --> 00:36:39,533
Speaker 3: from drinking. The person's got a story to tell.

815
00:36:39,773 --> 00:36:42,732
Speaker 2: The six his life is sweetened by risk.

816
00:36:42,893 --> 00:36:44,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's nicely said. Back in a moment,

817
00:36:45,173 --> 00:36:46,293
Speaker 3: is eight minutes to two.

818
00:36:47,333 --> 00:36:50,493
Speaker 1: Matd Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh, eight

819
00:36:50,613 --> 00:36:53,013
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heath and Taylor

820
00:36:53,053 --> 00:36:55,252
Speaker 1: Adams afternoons news talks Envy.

821
00:36:56,453 --> 00:36:57,732
Speaker 3: It is five to two.

822
00:36:58,373 --> 00:37:01,733
Speaker 2: So we're talking about this study that's found sixty one

823
00:37:01,733 --> 00:37:03,773
Speaker 2: per cent of respondence in New Zealand say maintaining a

824
00:37:03,853 --> 00:37:06,493
Speaker 2: healthy lifestyle is the most important lesson to pass on

825
00:37:06,693 --> 00:37:10,133
Speaker 2: to young people. So is it health or wealth management?

826
00:37:10,133 --> 00:37:11,772
Speaker 2: Should you go hard in your twenties is the question

827
00:37:11,853 --> 00:37:13,733
Speaker 2: we've been asking and I think we'll just finish up

828
00:37:13,773 --> 00:37:16,333
Speaker 2: on three texts. We've got so many texts that have

829
00:37:16,413 --> 00:37:18,733
Speaker 2: come through. Thank you for all your calls and texts,

830
00:37:18,773 --> 00:37:22,533
Speaker 2: but three that I think some up the debate. My

831
00:37:22,693 --> 00:37:25,053
Speaker 2: partner and I are late twenties. I'm self employed in

832
00:37:25,133 --> 00:37:28,692
Speaker 2: the trades. He's got a solid career. I would say

833
00:37:28,733 --> 00:37:31,373
Speaker 2: we live comfortably for our age. The only debt we

834
00:37:31,453 --> 00:37:33,533
Speaker 2: have is our home purchase last year and all the

835
00:37:33,613 --> 00:37:35,973
Speaker 2: expenses that come with that. We do sports for fun,

836
00:37:36,093 --> 00:37:38,573
Speaker 2: eat more or less whatever we want. We don't keep

837
00:37:38,653 --> 00:37:40,413
Speaker 2: up with the Joneses. That's a very important thing. Don't

838
00:37:40,453 --> 00:37:42,493
Speaker 2: keep up with the Joneses. Don't keep up with the

839
00:37:42,573 --> 00:37:45,693
Speaker 2: jones aren't big on festivals, et cetera. We still socialize,

840
00:37:45,693 --> 00:37:52,813
Speaker 2: and seamtes are especially. We still socialize in seamates, etc.

841
00:37:53,293 --> 00:37:55,693
Speaker 2: We're just smarter with what we choose to spend money on.

842
00:37:56,213 --> 00:37:58,893
Speaker 2: We get fomo at times and see our mates overseas traveling,

843
00:37:58,933 --> 00:38:01,173
Speaker 2: but then look at what we need to do, camping, fishing,

844
00:38:01,253 --> 00:38:03,693
Speaker 2: dog walks and just chilling in our home, not a

845
00:38:03,773 --> 00:38:06,493
Speaker 2: rental with a solid meal, beer and sky sports. To us,

846
00:38:06,573 --> 00:38:09,573
Speaker 2: that's what love, what we love. We can travel later

847
00:38:09,653 --> 00:38:11,973
Speaker 2: in life if we want. Yeah, nice, it's beautiful and

848
00:38:12,013 --> 00:38:13,733
Speaker 2: this one says hey Fellers trained to be a pilot

849
00:38:13,773 --> 00:38:16,973
Speaker 2: back in two thousand, one hundred K student debt family

850
00:38:18,293 --> 00:38:20,773
Speaker 2: loan taught me to focus on debt repayment that floored

851
00:38:20,813 --> 00:38:23,252
Speaker 2: across to mortgage, which is just about done at age

852
00:38:23,293 --> 00:38:25,813
Speaker 2: forty seven. Health is important, but wealth sets me up

853
00:38:26,173 --> 00:38:29,453
Speaker 2: as I begin to trail down Sniper Alley, that being

854
00:38:29,533 --> 00:38:32,533
Speaker 2: my fifties and associated health. Hopefully we don't need it all,

855
00:38:32,613 --> 00:38:33,652
Speaker 2: but go hard when you're young.

856
00:38:33,973 --> 00:38:36,413
Speaker 3: Nice, great discussion. News is coming up.

857
00:38:38,093 --> 00:38:39,613
Speaker 4: Talking with you all afternoon.

858
00:38:39,853 --> 00:38:44,173
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons with Skoda News Talks.

859
00:38:44,093 --> 00:38:47,493
Speaker 3: Be very good afternoons. You welcome back into the program.

860
00:38:47,733 --> 00:38:51,213
Speaker 3: Sex past too. So we've all heard the term prenups

861
00:38:51,213 --> 00:38:54,533
Speaker 3: thrown around in celebrity culture, those infamous legal agreements that

862
00:38:54,573 --> 00:38:58,573
Speaker 3: make headlines either safeguarding or jeopardizing the vast fortunes of

863
00:38:58,773 --> 00:39:01,173
Speaker 3: the rich and famous. So most recently it was Brooklyn

864
00:39:01,253 --> 00:39:04,693
Speaker 3: Beckham's alleged prenup with wife Nicola Peltz, the daughter of

865
00:39:04,733 --> 00:39:07,533
Speaker 3: billionaire Nelson Pelts, that caused the stir so. Beckham had

866
00:39:07,533 --> 00:39:10,613
Speaker 3: allegedly agreed to walk away with nothing from the Peltz

867
00:39:10,693 --> 00:39:14,013
Speaker 3: family if the marriage ends, much to the reported disapproval

868
00:39:14,093 --> 00:39:15,853
Speaker 3: of his parents, Victoria and David.

869
00:39:16,133 --> 00:39:19,373
Speaker 2: Well with nothing, he'd walk away with the huge amount

870
00:39:19,413 --> 00:39:21,333
Speaker 2: of money that he will hear it from his family.

871
00:39:22,293 --> 00:39:23,453
Speaker 2: It's not walking away with nothing.

872
00:39:23,693 --> 00:39:27,733
Speaker 3: Brooklyn Beckham again and also a robust, renegotiated cheating Claws

873
00:39:27,813 --> 00:39:31,533
Speaker 3: reportedly saw tiger Wood's ex wife entitlement to the golf

874
00:39:31,533 --> 00:39:34,213
Speaker 3: of six hundred million dollar fortune increase from the initially

875
00:39:34,253 --> 00:39:37,653
Speaker 3: agreed prenup sum of twenty million dollars to one hundred

876
00:39:37,653 --> 00:39:38,613
Speaker 3: and ten million bucks.

877
00:39:38,893 --> 00:39:42,293
Speaker 2: Well, that's an expensive tryst fervor or a number of

878
00:39:42,333 --> 00:39:43,453
Speaker 2: trists for Tigo in that matter.

879
00:39:43,693 --> 00:39:45,933
Speaker 3: It certainly was hoe worth it. He lost a lot

880
00:39:45,973 --> 00:39:48,173
Speaker 3: in that, didn't They on a dollar a dollar basis,

881
00:39:48,253 --> 00:39:51,053
Speaker 3: including a nice car. But in New Zealand, so this

882
00:39:51,173 --> 00:39:53,973
Speaker 3: is under the Property Relationships Act. Most of us know this,

883
00:39:54,093 --> 00:39:57,293
Speaker 3: but couples generally share their assets fifty to fifty if

884
00:39:57,333 --> 00:40:00,733
Speaker 3: the relationship lasts three years or more, unless they agree

885
00:40:00,813 --> 00:40:04,773
Speaker 3: otherwise in advance. The prenup here is called contracting outs agreements,

886
00:40:05,093 --> 00:40:07,773
Speaker 3: and that of course is to protect houses, businesses inheritance

887
00:40:07,813 --> 00:40:10,333
Speaker 3: before people tied than not. But what does that really

888
00:40:10,613 --> 00:40:13,692
Speaker 3: mean to ask for one our pre nups? A sign

889
00:40:14,253 --> 00:40:16,693
Speaker 3: of doubt in a relationship before it's even gone that far,

890
00:40:17,693 --> 00:40:18,093
Speaker 3: you reckon?

891
00:40:18,293 --> 00:40:20,373
Speaker 2: Of course they are. You're a sign of doubt if

892
00:40:20,373 --> 00:40:23,013
Speaker 2: you didn't have any doubt at all, whether that's foolhardy

893
00:40:23,093 --> 00:40:24,493
Speaker 2: or not, if you didn't have any doubt at all,

894
00:40:24,573 --> 00:40:26,173
Speaker 2: then it wouldn't be an issue. If you were going

895
00:40:26,253 --> 00:40:27,973
Speaker 2: to go I want to be with this person for

896
00:40:28,013 --> 00:40:30,772
Speaker 2: the rest of my life, so we're going to share

897
00:40:30,813 --> 00:40:32,613
Speaker 2: everything for us or if that's what marriage is, right?

898
00:40:33,333 --> 00:40:35,653
Speaker 2: Can you get a prenup before you get married? So

899
00:40:35,733 --> 00:40:41,773
Speaker 2: it's not a prenup, it's just a a we've been

900
00:40:41,813 --> 00:40:46,053
Speaker 2: together for two years, three hundred and sixty four days.

901
00:40:46,173 --> 00:40:49,533
Speaker 2: Better make this you know legal?

902
00:40:49,733 --> 00:40:52,373
Speaker 3: You can, yep. So just before that three year mark

903
00:40:52,613 --> 00:40:54,693
Speaker 3: if that's the crossover and you've been counting down the

904
00:40:54,773 --> 00:40:58,213
Speaker 3: days until that ticks over and sit now she or

905
00:40:58,293 --> 00:41:00,293
Speaker 3: he is going to get fifty percent of everything I've

906
00:41:00,333 --> 00:41:02,213
Speaker 3: got If we break up, you can actually get a

907
00:41:02,493 --> 00:41:07,253
Speaker 3: and they call it with's that phrase contracting out agreement?

908
00:41:08,533 --> 00:41:10,133
Speaker 2: Right, I see what it's saying. Well, why are you

909
00:41:10,213 --> 00:41:12,893
Speaker 2: getting married if you don't want to share everything with them?

910
00:41:12,933 --> 00:41:15,973
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Like what's going on there? Just

911
00:41:16,373 --> 00:41:17,053
Speaker 2: don't get married?

912
00:41:17,093 --> 00:41:18,893
Speaker 3: Then it's a roll of the dice though, wasn't it?

913
00:41:18,973 --> 00:41:21,333
Speaker 2: I mean, even if you so, what I'm saying, I

914
00:41:21,413 --> 00:41:24,133
Speaker 2: guess just to finish my thoughts, sorry, Tyler. But if

915
00:41:24,133 --> 00:41:26,093
Speaker 2: you're not going to get married, but you've been together

916
00:41:26,173 --> 00:41:28,253
Speaker 2: for two years and nearly coming up with three years,

917
00:41:28,293 --> 00:41:30,653
Speaker 2: and you're worried about the financial situation, then get that

918
00:41:31,013 --> 00:41:34,093
Speaker 2: legally done then yes. But my point is that the

919
00:41:34,373 --> 00:41:37,333
Speaker 2: idea of getting married as it is forever or else,

920
00:41:37,333 --> 00:41:39,293
Speaker 2: why are you're doing it? So if you're going into

921
00:41:39,333 --> 00:41:42,533
Speaker 2: a marriage situation because you can just stay girlfriend and

922
00:41:42,613 --> 00:41:45,493
Speaker 2: boyfriend if you want, yep, for as long as you want.

923
00:41:46,333 --> 00:41:48,933
Speaker 2: But you know, after three years there's a sort of

924
00:41:49,253 --> 00:41:52,172
Speaker 2: legal thing going on with how much you know your

925
00:41:52,213 --> 00:41:54,373
Speaker 2: partner owns of yours. But if you're going to then

926
00:41:54,413 --> 00:41:56,493
Speaker 2: take it to the step of marriage, aren't you going?

927
00:41:57,173 --> 00:41:59,172
Speaker 2: But that the whole point of marriage is we're taking

928
00:41:59,213 --> 00:42:02,693
Speaker 2: it outside of that realm of you own this, I

929
00:42:02,853 --> 00:42:06,893
Speaker 2: own that you're marrying to say we're a unit now,

930
00:42:06,973 --> 00:42:11,013
Speaker 2: we are bonded together as one thing going forward yep.

931
00:42:11,693 --> 00:42:13,093
Speaker 2: What I means, and if you don't want to do that,

932
00:42:13,173 --> 00:42:14,212
Speaker 2: don't get bloody married.

933
00:42:14,573 --> 00:42:15,813
Speaker 3: Is it always a roll of the dice? So, I

934
00:42:15,933 --> 00:42:17,853
Speaker 3: mean most people if they look they get closer to

935
00:42:17,893 --> 00:42:20,013
Speaker 3: the three years or indeed, as you say, they've left

936
00:42:20,053 --> 00:42:21,773
Speaker 3: it too late, and then think, all jeep, is we

937
00:42:21,853 --> 00:42:24,613
Speaker 3: better get something written up because I'm worried about my assets.

938
00:42:25,173 --> 00:42:28,093
Speaker 3: But even if you're in that camp where you're madly

939
00:42:28,173 --> 00:42:29,893
Speaker 3: in love and you look at that person and say,

940
00:42:29,933 --> 00:42:32,053
Speaker 3: nothing's ever going to go wrong. We are going to

941
00:42:32,093 --> 00:42:35,293
Speaker 3: be tied up together till death do us part. But

942
00:42:35,413 --> 00:42:37,933
Speaker 3: in the back of your heads, surely there's a part

943
00:42:37,973 --> 00:42:39,772
Speaker 3: of you thinking this is a roll of the dice,

944
00:42:40,093 --> 00:42:43,573
Speaker 3: that I am bringing more into this relationship. I have

945
00:42:43,733 --> 00:42:46,853
Speaker 3: chosen not to protect it, but that's the trade off

946
00:42:46,973 --> 00:42:49,013
Speaker 3: because I love you so much, even if there's a

947
00:42:49,133 --> 00:42:51,293
Speaker 3: chance it doesn't work out, I'm happy with that. If

948
00:42:51,333 --> 00:42:53,853
Speaker 3: you take me for everything I'm worth, it was worth

949
00:42:53,893 --> 00:42:54,933
Speaker 3: it because I love you right now.

950
00:42:55,013 --> 00:42:58,213
Speaker 2: I mean, it might be a different situation. I mean, Tyler,

951
00:42:58,253 --> 00:43:01,493
Speaker 2: you and I aren't don't come from wealthy families, so

952
00:43:01,613 --> 00:43:05,013
Speaker 2: there's not people that are targeting us for money. Yeah, true, Yeah,

953
00:43:05,133 --> 00:43:08,652
Speaker 2: I can imagine it would be a horrible and I'd

954
00:43:08,693 --> 00:43:09,973
Speaker 2: love to hear from people. You know, you don't have

955
00:43:10,013 --> 00:43:11,733
Speaker 2: to give your name or whatever. But eight hundred and

956
00:43:11,773 --> 00:43:14,692
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. If you are a wealthy come from

957
00:43:14,733 --> 00:43:17,453
Speaker 2: a wealthy family, and people might target you to be

958
00:43:18,013 --> 00:43:22,093
Speaker 2: part of that situation, then I imagine that might be

959
00:43:22,413 --> 00:43:25,733
Speaker 2: creeping worry in the back of your mind. Yeah, but

960
00:43:25,813 --> 00:43:27,133
Speaker 2: I mean I don't have to worry about that. But

961
00:43:27,213 --> 00:43:31,053
Speaker 2: also I would just think even then you would have

962
00:43:31,293 --> 00:43:34,013
Speaker 2: to before you ask someone to marry or agree to

963
00:43:34,093 --> 00:43:38,493
Speaker 2: marry someone. Surely all those doubts should have disappeared. And

964
00:43:39,133 --> 00:43:40,493
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know.

965
00:43:40,613 --> 00:43:42,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the cheating clause is interesting in the Tiger

966
00:43:42,893 --> 00:43:45,813
Speaker 3: Woods situation. That is probably something I could get behind.

967
00:43:46,053 --> 00:43:48,692
Speaker 3: They forget all the split air sets fifty to fifty

968
00:43:48,733 --> 00:43:49,893
Speaker 3: and all the rest of it, and let's have some

969
00:43:49,973 --> 00:43:52,652
Speaker 3: insurance in case we break up, just having one line

970
00:43:52,733 --> 00:43:55,533
Speaker 3: to say, if you cheat on me, you get nothing

971
00:43:55,853 --> 00:43:57,773
Speaker 3: oble for that. I mean, I can sign on the

972
00:43:57,813 --> 00:43:59,213
Speaker 3: donnal line there and vice versa.

973
00:43:59,333 --> 00:44:02,013
Speaker 2: But isn't that what marriage is? You don't cheat on

974
00:44:02,053 --> 00:44:04,093
Speaker 2: them anymore? Yeah, or not anymore?

975
00:44:05,453 --> 00:44:07,293
Speaker 3: If your lesson when you were younger.

976
00:44:08,413 --> 00:44:10,893
Speaker 2: But on where we had that text the other day

977
00:44:10,893 --> 00:44:13,133
Speaker 2: when we were talking about something and someone said that

978
00:44:13,813 --> 00:44:15,813
Speaker 2: he slept with someone on a stag doo the night

979
00:44:15,813 --> 00:44:17,893
Speaker 2: before his wedding. But that was because he knew that

980
00:44:17,973 --> 00:44:19,973
Speaker 2: was the last day I was allowed to do it. Example,

981
00:44:20,213 --> 00:44:22,093
Speaker 2: you weren't allowed to do it on that day. That's

982
00:44:22,133 --> 00:44:24,373
Speaker 2: not how you probably went aloud.

983
00:44:25,093 --> 00:44:27,173
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

984
00:44:27,213 --> 00:44:29,333
Speaker 3: call love to hear from you? A pre nups just

985
00:44:29,373 --> 00:44:31,692
Speaker 3: a sign of doubt in the in the a relationship

986
00:44:32,213 --> 00:44:35,493
Speaker 3: or are they important insurance before you tie the knot.

987
00:44:35,773 --> 00:44:37,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be interested to just to talk to people

988
00:44:37,613 --> 00:44:39,413
Speaker 2: how they brought it up, because I feel like if

989
00:44:39,413 --> 00:44:41,973
Speaker 2: I brought it up, I'd be going you know, you

990
00:44:42,053 --> 00:44:45,933
Speaker 2: seem okay, but there's a higher than zero chance you're

991
00:44:46,013 --> 00:44:47,693
Speaker 2: going to rip me off and take me for everything.

992
00:44:48,133 --> 00:44:48,293
Speaker 15: You know.

993
00:44:48,453 --> 00:44:52,013
Speaker 3: Yep, I brought my lawyer along. It is thirty past

994
00:44:52,093 --> 00:44:52,853
Speaker 3: two back in the month.

995
00:44:53,253 --> 00:44:57,733
Speaker 4: Wow your home of afternoon talk mad Heathen Taylor Adams

996
00:44:57,893 --> 00:45:02,053
Speaker 4: afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk ZEDB.

997
00:45:03,413 --> 00:45:05,773
Speaker 3: News Talk ZEDB. So we're talking about the idea of

998
00:45:05,893 --> 00:45:08,853
Speaker 3: pre nups. All these contraxial agreements before you take over

999
00:45:08,933 --> 00:45:11,933
Speaker 3: three years as a couple. Are they a sign of

1000
00:45:12,013 --> 00:45:14,093
Speaker 3: doubt in the relationship? Oh, one hundred and eighteen eighty

1001
00:45:14,173 --> 00:45:14,813
Speaker 3: is the number to call.

1002
00:45:15,533 --> 00:45:16,732
Speaker 2: Patrina, Welcome to the show.

1003
00:45:17,813 --> 00:45:18,093
Speaker 16: Thank you.

1004
00:45:18,973 --> 00:45:21,733
Speaker 2: So we're talking about prenups. What do you know about

1005
00:45:21,773 --> 00:45:23,493
Speaker 2: the situation. What's your experience?

1006
00:45:24,573 --> 00:45:29,373
Speaker 12: Well, when I first met my male husband, we had

1007
00:45:29,493 --> 00:45:33,133
Speaker 12: five children between them, wow, and we had.

1008
00:45:35,133 --> 00:45:35,973
Speaker 3: And we had.

1009
00:45:35,973 --> 00:45:41,013
Speaker 12: Individual homes, so we decided we'd do a prenup while

1010
00:45:41,053 --> 00:45:45,053
Speaker 12: we were living together to make sure that everything was okay.

1011
00:45:45,653 --> 00:45:49,493
Speaker 12: Five years later we got married and now we've just

1012
00:45:49,693 --> 00:45:54,173
Speaker 12: done another prenup because the prenup was done in Australia

1013
00:45:54,333 --> 00:45:59,373
Speaker 12: and wasn't recognized in New Zealand. So we've done another preenup.

1014
00:45:59,533 --> 00:46:02,133
Speaker 12: And it's not because we don't trust each other. It's

1015
00:46:02,213 --> 00:46:06,853
Speaker 12: because because we have five children, the kids could lay

1016
00:46:06,933 --> 00:46:12,133
Speaker 12: a claim on any of our properties. But that's why

1017
00:46:12,213 --> 00:46:13,692
Speaker 12: we've had to do the plan again.

1018
00:46:13,893 --> 00:46:18,652
Speaker 2: So you don't trust the kids basically, well, I.

1019
00:46:18,973 --> 00:46:21,853
Speaker 12: Trust my husband completely, the two of us. If we

1020
00:46:21,933 --> 00:46:24,773
Speaker 12: didn't have the kids, I wouldn't have done one again,

1021
00:46:25,533 --> 00:46:29,213
Speaker 12: but the lawyer advised us because we had the kids

1022
00:46:30,093 --> 00:46:33,453
Speaker 12: and he's living in my house. That he's got his

1023
00:46:33,653 --> 00:46:38,413
Speaker 12: own property as well. But you know someone could come

1024
00:46:38,453 --> 00:46:40,933
Speaker 12: in and claim like they could say, oh, well dad

1025
00:46:41,093 --> 00:46:44,413
Speaker 12: was living in your house. So if you die, we

1026
00:46:44,613 --> 00:46:47,333
Speaker 12: could take claim something.

1027
00:46:47,773 --> 00:46:50,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And is there others? So if you don't

1028
00:46:50,613 --> 00:46:52,973
Speaker 2: mind me asking the details? So how many kids did

1029
00:46:53,013 --> 00:46:54,573
Speaker 2: each of you bring into the relationship?

1030
00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:57,533
Speaker 17: He brought to and I bought three?

1031
00:46:58,133 --> 00:46:58,253
Speaker 12: Right?

1032
00:46:59,093 --> 00:47:02,093
Speaker 2: And is that going pretty well? They am sorry to

1033
00:47:02,173 --> 00:47:06,413
Speaker 2: drill into your life, but I'm just trying to head

1034
00:47:06,493 --> 00:47:10,373
Speaker 2: round it. So and is there other you know, the

1035
00:47:10,453 --> 00:47:14,693
Speaker 2: other parents involved, like the other mother and the other father.

1036
00:47:14,813 --> 00:47:18,213
Speaker 12: There's the next wife, and there's an husband, but they

1037
00:47:18,333 --> 00:47:19,853
Speaker 12: have no claim to anything.

1038
00:47:21,853 --> 00:47:25,493
Speaker 18: So yeah, we have lawyer just advised us because of

1039
00:47:25,573 --> 00:47:26,013
Speaker 18: the kids.

1040
00:47:26,573 --> 00:47:29,133
Speaker 12: Whereas if I didn't have we didn't have the kids,

1041
00:47:29,973 --> 00:47:30,813
Speaker 12: we wouldn't have done it.

1042
00:47:31,133 --> 00:47:33,212
Speaker 2: Is that something that couldn't be done with a will?

1043
00:47:34,533 --> 00:47:35,213
Speaker 12: Oh we've done a.

1044
00:47:35,253 --> 00:47:35,853
Speaker 17: Will as well.

1045
00:47:36,213 --> 00:47:39,733
Speaker 12: Yeah, we've just been doing. Hate to see what the

1046
00:47:39,813 --> 00:47:40,693
Speaker 12: lawyer bill's going to.

1047
00:47:42,973 --> 00:47:43,973
Speaker 13: But yeah, we've just.

1048
00:47:44,133 --> 00:47:48,973
Speaker 12: Gone through all this to cover ourselves and cover it.

1049
00:47:49,373 --> 00:47:52,773
Speaker 12: You know, his business, my house everything.

1050
00:47:53,333 --> 00:47:58,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so with the houses, is it divided up?

1051
00:47:58,893 --> 00:48:03,333
Speaker 2: So the five kids. If once you both go, they

1052
00:48:04,813 --> 00:48:07,093
Speaker 2: get twenty percent of all of it.

1053
00:48:07,373 --> 00:48:08,213
Speaker 15: Or is it? No?

1054
00:48:08,533 --> 00:48:11,893
Speaker 12: No, no, no, my house is left to my three children,

1055
00:48:12,133 --> 00:48:16,333
Speaker 12: right and his property is left to his two children, right.

1056
00:48:16,693 --> 00:48:21,453
Speaker 2: So, and so what's your relationship with his children like that?

1057
00:48:22,013 --> 00:48:22,933
Speaker 2: Which are your children?

1058
00:48:22,973 --> 00:48:23,172
Speaker 14: Are they?

1059
00:48:23,333 --> 00:48:24,732
Speaker 2: Do you see them as your children as well?

1060
00:48:25,893 --> 00:48:26,053
Speaker 9: Oh?

1061
00:48:26,213 --> 00:48:30,692
Speaker 12: No, no, because they were quite old, right, right, we've

1062
00:48:30,693 --> 00:48:35,613
Speaker 12: got together, like we've been together, what eighteen years? I think?

1063
00:48:36,493 --> 00:48:36,533
Speaker 14: No?

1064
00:48:37,013 --> 00:48:39,093
Speaker 12: No, no, no, no, they're all grown up.

1065
00:48:39,213 --> 00:48:40,973
Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's a bit different than right, So you

1066
00:48:41,053 --> 00:48:43,333
Speaker 2: haven't really been involved in the day to day, you know,

1067
00:48:43,453 --> 00:48:47,333
Speaker 2: dropping off at school and packing in the right Yeah, no,

1068
00:48:47,413 --> 00:48:48,812
Speaker 2: I can see I can see you how that would

1069
00:48:48,813 --> 00:48:49,413
Speaker 2: get complicated.

1070
00:48:50,933 --> 00:48:54,373
Speaker 3: So, Petrina, what's your thoughts on getting a pre nup?

1071
00:48:54,733 --> 00:48:57,493
Speaker 3: Obviously your situation a bit more complicated. But for couples

1072
00:48:57,573 --> 00:48:59,853
Speaker 3: looking out there getting a pre nup before they take

1073
00:48:59,933 --> 00:49:03,253
Speaker 3: over the three year you know, change and then everything's

1074
00:49:03,253 --> 00:49:05,333
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty. Would you think that's a good idea

1075
00:49:05,453 --> 00:49:08,013
Speaker 3: or is that? You know, that's almost a lack of

1076
00:49:08,013 --> 00:49:08,893
Speaker 3: trust and your partner.

1077
00:49:10,133 --> 00:49:14,493
Speaker 12: It depends what each one owns. Once you've gone through

1078
00:49:14,533 --> 00:49:20,293
Speaker 12: a divorce, you know, that's financial damage. So you want

1079
00:49:20,333 --> 00:49:23,133
Speaker 12: to keep your money and I want to keep my money.

1080
00:49:23,293 --> 00:49:27,773
Speaker 12: So we set it all up so it's all individual First.

1081
00:49:29,573 --> 00:49:32,413
Speaker 12: What I have is mine and what he has is hit.

1082
00:49:32,813 --> 00:49:36,613
Speaker 2: So what was the point of the marriage then, because

1083
00:49:36,733 --> 00:49:41,013
Speaker 2: we wanted to get marriage. So so the marriage like

1084
00:49:41,173 --> 00:49:43,013
Speaker 2: just trying to unpack it. So does a marriage cover

1085
00:49:43,453 --> 00:49:46,933
Speaker 2: the emotional and love side of it, but you want

1086
00:49:46,973 --> 00:49:49,853
Speaker 2: to keep the business side of it outside of the marriage.

1087
00:49:50,653 --> 00:49:52,253
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yep.

1088
00:49:52,773 --> 00:49:56,093
Speaker 3: And so is that because you've you've built your own wealth,

1089
00:49:56,333 --> 00:49:58,413
Speaker 3: your own life, and you looked at that and he

1090
00:49:58,453 --> 00:50:00,613
Speaker 3: had done the same thing and said, well, there's no

1091
00:50:00,653 --> 00:50:02,893
Speaker 3: point if this doesn't work out, that we we both

1092
00:50:02,973 --> 00:50:04,893
Speaker 3: go back to, you know, ground zero.

1093
00:50:06,693 --> 00:50:07,893
Speaker 18: No, I think it was I.

1094
00:50:08,413 --> 00:50:10,893
Speaker 12: I did it to cover my children so that they

1095
00:50:11,013 --> 00:50:13,853
Speaker 12: had something if anything happened to me. And he did

1096
00:50:13,893 --> 00:50:16,973
Speaker 12: it to cover his business and his children.

1097
00:50:17,053 --> 00:50:22,333
Speaker 2: Who's got more, Patrina, who's bringing more financially? What's give

1098
00:50:22,413 --> 00:50:22,853
Speaker 2: us the number?

1099
00:50:23,093 --> 00:50:24,533
Speaker 12: I'm not going to say that one.

1100
00:50:26,413 --> 00:50:28,453
Speaker 2: I feel like it's you for some reason. I feel

1101
00:50:28,493 --> 00:50:31,133
Speaker 2: like that that you You sound like you've been very successful.

1102
00:50:33,133 --> 00:50:36,333
Speaker 12: No, I've got a house at a beautiful house and

1103
00:50:36,613 --> 00:50:39,373
Speaker 12: it's lovely, but he's got a business and he's the

1104
00:50:39,413 --> 00:50:42,933
Speaker 12: one that's working and bringing the income, and he pays

1105
00:50:43,053 --> 00:50:46,493
Speaker 12: for everything on my house. Interesting, and I don't have

1106
00:50:46,933 --> 00:50:48,573
Speaker 12: anything to do with his business.

1107
00:50:49,093 --> 00:50:50,373
Speaker 17: That's his and you have.

1108
00:50:51,373 --> 00:50:55,093
Speaker 2: So you can have these discussions with your husband and

1109
00:50:55,213 --> 00:50:58,373
Speaker 2: there's no emotional side to it, and you know, like,

1110
00:50:58,453 --> 00:51:00,533
Speaker 2: no one's getting offended. Would that be true? O?

1111
00:51:00,813 --> 00:51:05,613
Speaker 12: God, No, no, No, we are justng we're soul mates.

1112
00:51:06,253 --> 00:51:09,773
Speaker 12: We just who's along. He knows what he has to

1113
00:51:09,853 --> 00:51:14,133
Speaker 12: do and I know what I have to do. I

1114
00:51:14,293 --> 00:51:17,813
Speaker 12: just look after him, he looks after me, and we're fine.

1115
00:51:17,933 --> 00:51:22,853
Speaker 2: Beautiful, beautiful, So like, yeah, it's a bit different, isn't it.

1116
00:51:22,933 --> 00:51:26,093
Speaker 2: Then then someone in there, you know, someone's twenty two

1117
00:51:26,133 --> 00:51:28,613
Speaker 2: and the other one's twenty one and they're just you

1118
00:51:28,693 --> 00:51:31,893
Speaker 2: know what, we got married in a hurry and a fever,

1119
00:51:31,973 --> 00:51:33,613
Speaker 2: hotter than a pepper corn type situation.

1120
00:51:35,333 --> 00:51:38,373
Speaker 12: I still think it's a good idea in this day

1121
00:51:38,453 --> 00:51:42,053
Speaker 12: and age because so many people spread up.

1122
00:51:42,013 --> 00:51:47,573
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, Patrina, Patrina, thank you very much for

1123
00:51:47,613 --> 00:51:49,573
Speaker 3: giving us a buzz. Really interesting to chat with you.

1124
00:51:49,893 --> 00:51:52,413
Speaker 3: A very complete situation, but it makes a whole lot

1125
00:51:52,453 --> 00:51:52,732
Speaker 3: of sense.

1126
00:51:52,813 --> 00:51:55,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for calling It's a pepper sprout,

1127
00:51:55,493 --> 00:51:58,693
Speaker 2: isn't it. We got married in a hurry. No, we

1128
00:51:58,893 --> 00:52:02,373
Speaker 2: got married in a fever harder than a pepper sprout.

1129
00:52:02,733 --> 00:52:05,813
Speaker 2: That's it, Yeah, Jackson, great song, Great June, one of

1130
00:52:05,853 --> 00:52:06,373
Speaker 2: the great songs.

1131
00:52:06,493 --> 00:52:06,613
Speaker 11: Oh.

1132
00:52:06,653 --> 00:52:08,653
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the able to

1133
00:52:08,653 --> 00:52:11,573
Speaker 3: call if you've got a prenup? Why and a couple

1134
00:52:11,613 --> 00:52:12,813
Speaker 3: of teats on nine two ninety two.

1135
00:52:12,933 --> 00:52:14,853
Speaker 2: It all depends on the situation, as in what you

1136
00:52:15,013 --> 00:52:17,933
Speaker 2: bring into And when I didn't have a prenup in

1137
00:52:17,973 --> 00:52:20,693
Speaker 2: an early relationship, we broke up amicably, and despite her

1138
00:52:20,773 --> 00:52:23,853
Speaker 2: saying she wouldn't take legal action, she did anyway. I

1139
00:52:23,933 --> 00:52:26,053
Speaker 2: put all the money into the house. She put nothing

1140
00:52:26,093 --> 00:52:28,813
Speaker 2: into it, but she still ended up getting about forty

1141
00:52:28,813 --> 00:52:32,053
Speaker 2: percent of everything. Now, in my current relationship, I insisted

1142
00:52:32,093 --> 00:52:34,933
Speaker 2: on a pre nup because again it was me putting

1143
00:52:34,973 --> 00:52:37,373
Speaker 2: all the funds into the house. If your partner loves

1144
00:52:37,413 --> 00:52:39,573
Speaker 2: you in the right way, they will respect your wishes.

1145
00:52:40,933 --> 00:52:42,933
Speaker 2: But aren't you kind of saying that this could go

1146
00:52:43,093 --> 00:52:43,613
Speaker 2: south again?

1147
00:52:43,853 --> 00:52:46,093
Speaker 3: There's a little bit of antitrust there. Oh eight hundred

1148
00:52:46,133 --> 00:52:48,493
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty nine two ninety two is a text.

1149
00:52:48,733 --> 00:52:50,413
Speaker 3: It is twenty three parts two.

1150
00:52:54,173 --> 00:52:57,853
Speaker 1: Matt Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty

1151
00:52:57,933 --> 00:52:59,573
Speaker 1: ten eighty on news talk D be.

1152
00:52:59,973 --> 00:53:02,053
Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. You so we're talking about pre nups.

1153
00:53:02,093 --> 00:53:04,093
Speaker 3: Does ask him for a prenup suggest you're not fully

1154
00:53:04,133 --> 00:53:06,093
Speaker 3: confident in the marriage or relationship?

1155
00:53:06,333 --> 00:53:09,252
Speaker 2: The sex says hell health no, hell, hath no fury

1156
00:53:09,333 --> 00:53:12,172
Speaker 2: like a woman scorned, get a prenup. But when you're

1157
00:53:12,173 --> 00:53:13,813
Speaker 2: going to get married, My point is, aren't you planning

1158
00:53:13,853 --> 00:53:16,053
Speaker 2: not to scorn them? Isn't that the point of a marriage.

1159
00:53:16,093 --> 00:53:18,773
Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying a prenup makes more sense to

1160
00:53:19,813 --> 00:53:22,453
Speaker 2: me if you're just in a de facto relationship because

1161
00:53:22,493 --> 00:53:24,652
Speaker 2: you haven't decided to get married. And deciding to get

1162
00:53:24,733 --> 00:53:27,373
Speaker 2: married means I'm not going to scorn this woman.

1163
00:53:27,453 --> 00:53:29,773
Speaker 3: Should be in the nuptials, shouldn't it I promise not

1164
00:53:29,853 --> 00:53:30,333
Speaker 3: to scorn you.

1165
00:53:30,453 --> 00:53:33,133
Speaker 2: Supplementary question, what is scorning a woman? How do you

1166
00:53:33,173 --> 00:53:34,493
Speaker 2: scorn a woman? Is that cheating on it?

1167
00:53:35,333 --> 00:53:37,493
Speaker 3: Sure Lyeah, that would bring a lot of scorn. That

1168
00:53:37,573 --> 00:53:38,453
Speaker 3: would be one way to do it.

1169
00:53:39,413 --> 00:53:39,773
Speaker 13: Of scorn.

1170
00:53:40,253 --> 00:53:42,013
Speaker 2: I've just never thought about what does scorn mean?

1171
00:53:42,893 --> 00:53:45,573
Speaker 3: Scorn just excessive anger. It's just get a different. Scorn

1172
00:53:45,693 --> 00:53:45,973
Speaker 3: is an.

1173
00:53:45,853 --> 00:53:49,293
Speaker 2: Intense feeling of expression of contempt, disdain, or mockery towards

1174
00:53:49,333 --> 00:53:53,013
Speaker 2: someone or something deemed worthless and fear disrespectful. So by

1175
00:53:53,093 --> 00:53:56,213
Speaker 2: cheating on them, you have shown scorn towards them. Right,

1176
00:53:56,453 --> 00:53:59,293
Speaker 2: so they've been scorned by you? Yes, yeah, so I

1177
00:53:59,373 --> 00:54:02,333
Speaker 2: think in a relationship that's generally speaking, if you're running

1178
00:54:02,373 --> 00:54:04,533
Speaker 2: around with secretary or something, Yeah.

1179
00:54:05,773 --> 00:54:09,333
Speaker 3: You mate, here are you going? God, you're good again?

1180
00:54:09,653 --> 00:54:11,413
Speaker 19: My view of this, and I've had a couple of

1181
00:54:11,493 --> 00:54:15,053
Speaker 19: relationships and they've owned a bit of property. But the

1182
00:54:15,973 --> 00:54:19,013
Speaker 19: thing when going into relationship is or and the prenup

1183
00:54:19,213 --> 00:54:21,973
Speaker 19: business is the person that you meet is not going

1184
00:54:22,053 --> 00:54:25,853
Speaker 19: to be the person that you separate from, all right,

1185
00:54:27,373 --> 00:54:30,053
Speaker 19: you know, so to say that, no, you don't need

1186
00:54:30,133 --> 00:54:33,293
Speaker 19: a prenup even though half the time they're not really

1187
00:54:33,333 --> 00:54:35,652
Speaker 19: worth the paper they've written on, as they've found out.

1188
00:54:36,213 --> 00:54:37,613
Speaker 2: But sorry to hear that.

1189
00:54:38,733 --> 00:54:41,853
Speaker 19: Yeah, yes, so the person you meet isn't going to

1190
00:54:41,893 --> 00:54:45,133
Speaker 19: be the person that you divorce. But the other thing

1191
00:54:45,213 --> 00:54:49,213
Speaker 19: that really irritates me, not in my situation is okay,

1192
00:54:49,413 --> 00:54:53,053
Speaker 19: so say, in my situation, I've owned a house for

1193
00:54:53,133 --> 00:54:57,773
Speaker 19: twenty to twenty five years, and then you meet someone

1194
00:54:58,053 --> 00:55:00,413
Speaker 19: all of a sudden, you know, three years down the track,

1195
00:55:00,413 --> 00:55:02,253
Speaker 19: they're entitled half that house supposedly.

1196
00:55:03,213 --> 00:55:04,373
Speaker 4: Why you know, why is that?

1197
00:55:04,853 --> 00:55:06,772
Speaker 19: Why is that house that you owned all that time

1198
00:55:07,253 --> 00:55:10,613
Speaker 19: supposedly someone else is entitled to it. Whereas if you

1199
00:55:10,653 --> 00:55:14,893
Speaker 19: went into that relationship and you've rented a house and

1200
00:55:15,413 --> 00:55:19,813
Speaker 19: for ten or fifteen, twenty years, you just basically brought toys,

1201
00:55:20,173 --> 00:55:24,733
Speaker 19: road motorbikes, cars, and basically you just your money up

1202
00:55:24,773 --> 00:55:28,413
Speaker 19: against the wall. That's fine, the relationship ends, you've both

1203
00:55:28,453 --> 00:55:28,893
Speaker 19: got nothing.

1204
00:55:29,013 --> 00:55:29,813
Speaker 18: But if you had a.

1205
00:55:29,853 --> 00:55:33,172
Speaker 2: House, where does the three years come from? Three years

1206
00:55:33,213 --> 00:55:36,093
Speaker 2: seems way too short. You know, people are busy with work,

1207
00:55:36,133 --> 00:55:37,732
Speaker 2: they're doing a lot of stuff. They don't get around

1208
00:55:37,733 --> 00:55:39,373
Speaker 2: of breaking up. Next thing, you know, three years has

1209
00:55:39,413 --> 00:55:41,973
Speaker 2: gone past, goes like that just because they were watching

1210
00:55:42,013 --> 00:55:45,172
Speaker 2: the calendar and the whole house is sheared. Three years

1211
00:55:45,213 --> 00:55:46,453
Speaker 2: seems way too short.

1212
00:55:47,093 --> 00:55:48,213
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah it is.

1213
00:55:48,373 --> 00:55:48,693
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1214
00:55:48,693 --> 00:55:50,252
Speaker 19: I wouldn't like to say in this day and age,

1215
00:55:50,293 --> 00:55:52,813
Speaker 19: but any day and age, why is there a time

1216
00:55:52,853 --> 00:55:57,293
Speaker 19: limit on anything? If you own something, you know before

1217
00:55:57,333 --> 00:55:59,973
Speaker 19: you met this person that come along, why is that

1218
00:56:00,133 --> 00:56:03,413
Speaker 19: person supposedly entitled to it? Whether they looked after the

1219
00:56:03,533 --> 00:56:05,533
Speaker 19: kids or had children together.

1220
00:56:07,213 --> 00:56:10,373
Speaker 2: Because I can understand the there is a problem. Say,

1221
00:56:10,893 --> 00:56:14,933
Speaker 2: if you're in a relationship you have kids, and one

1222
00:56:15,373 --> 00:56:18,373
Speaker 2: person stays working, the other person stays home to look

1223
00:56:18,413 --> 00:56:20,773
Speaker 2: after the kids, and so when the relationship breaks up,

1224
00:56:21,453 --> 00:56:24,733
Speaker 2: they don't own anything. That makes sense to me that

1225
00:56:24,893 --> 00:56:27,212
Speaker 2: you should have it there because it's a family breaking up, right,

1226
00:56:27,613 --> 00:56:29,853
Speaker 2: But it is on If you meet someone at the pub,

1227
00:56:29,973 --> 00:56:33,453
Speaker 2: they come home and they never quite go away.

1228
00:56:34,213 --> 00:56:36,493
Speaker 3: For three years, good three years hopefully.

1229
00:56:36,693 --> 00:56:41,373
Speaker 2: But my point, Malcolm, is that that's when the prenup

1230
00:56:41,413 --> 00:56:44,213
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense to me, because you know,

1231
00:56:44,693 --> 00:56:46,893
Speaker 2: two and a half years into the relationship, you should

1232
00:56:47,293 --> 00:56:49,933
Speaker 2: even though you may because you're not planning to nup,

1233
00:56:50,333 --> 00:56:53,172
Speaker 2: you're not planning nuptials, so you should get that that's

1234
00:56:53,213 --> 00:56:56,373
Speaker 2: when you should sort out a deal then, just because

1235
00:56:56,373 --> 00:56:58,733
Speaker 2: you're facing that three year thing, which which could mean

1236
00:56:58,773 --> 00:57:01,693
Speaker 2: that you have to give half your stuff away. But

1237
00:57:02,173 --> 00:57:04,853
Speaker 2: my point would be that when you say to marry them,

1238
00:57:04,933 --> 00:57:07,613
Speaker 2: that you decide to marry them, you're kind of entering

1239
00:57:07,653 --> 00:57:11,533
Speaker 2: into some kind kind of fifty to fifty situation. By

1240
00:57:11,653 --> 00:57:14,293
Speaker 2: the that's what marriage is. And I get what you're

1241
00:57:14,333 --> 00:57:19,213
Speaker 2: saying about them them changing. But in the traditional sense

1242
00:57:19,253 --> 00:57:22,413
Speaker 2: of marriage, right, it's unconditional, you know, sickness and health

1243
00:57:22,813 --> 00:57:27,173
Speaker 2: for every Yeah. Yeah, even if they do go crazy.

1244
00:57:28,213 --> 00:57:31,653
Speaker 19: You do change for your life too. So but what

1245
00:57:31,773 --> 00:57:35,013
Speaker 19: I'm saying is, you know, and I don't know a

1246
00:57:35,133 --> 00:57:38,653
Speaker 19: lot of the time, that there's another person that comes

1247
00:57:38,693 --> 00:57:43,853
Speaker 19: along that destroys your relationship. So it's not necessarily your

1248
00:57:43,973 --> 00:57:47,573
Speaker 19: partner that changed. Someone changed that person.

1249
00:57:47,693 --> 00:57:51,053
Speaker 14: Right, Yeah. Whether that's right.

1250
00:57:51,013 --> 00:57:53,053
Speaker 19: Or wrong, I don't know. But you know, like I say,

1251
00:57:53,133 --> 00:58:00,773
Speaker 19: the value put on assets that you already owned, is

1252
00:58:01,893 --> 00:58:02,893
Speaker 19: it should be irrelevant?

1253
00:58:03,053 --> 00:58:03,973
Speaker 9: You know you owned it?

1254
00:58:04,493 --> 00:58:04,533
Speaker 15: What?

1255
00:58:05,133 --> 00:58:06,813
Speaker 19: Yeah, it's bloody complicated today.

1256
00:58:07,253 --> 00:58:09,493
Speaker 2: It is just to get my head around because you've

1257
00:58:09,493 --> 00:58:11,733
Speaker 2: actually weighed something. I haven't actually thought about that. Why

1258
00:58:11,933 --> 00:58:13,573
Speaker 2: is that three years? And when did that come in?

1259
00:58:13,773 --> 00:58:18,293
Speaker 2: Because it does seem like an incredibly punitive.

1260
00:58:17,853 --> 00:58:18,773
Speaker 3: Way to look at the world.

1261
00:58:19,773 --> 00:58:22,213
Speaker 19: So a safe way out of this is that too.

1262
00:58:22,533 --> 00:58:25,173
Speaker 19: So you're in a house, you meet someone you know,

1263
00:58:25,573 --> 00:58:27,053
Speaker 19: then you decide, okay, we're going to go and rent

1264
00:58:27,093 --> 00:58:30,413
Speaker 19: a house or by our own house. You know you

1265
00:58:30,453 --> 00:58:31,773
Speaker 19: shouldn't have to do that, but is that.

1266
00:58:31,893 --> 00:58:35,573
Speaker 3: The safe way out? YEA later, before she.

1267
00:58:36,013 --> 00:58:39,453
Speaker 19: Had her and her husband had separate houses, so they're

1268
00:58:39,453 --> 00:58:43,373
Speaker 19: living nicely in her house as it happens, and there's

1269
00:58:43,413 --> 00:58:45,973
Speaker 19: no holds on that house. But if you're in another relationship,

1270
00:58:47,293 --> 00:58:48,813
Speaker 19: you have to go and buy your own house just

1271
00:58:48,893 --> 00:58:51,973
Speaker 19: to be safe. And then they're entitled at half that

1272
00:58:52,093 --> 00:58:56,453
Speaker 19: house because you bought it together, and there's no reason why.

1273
00:58:57,813 --> 00:58:59,973
Speaker 19: So if one of the one of them in the

1274
00:59:00,093 --> 00:59:02,813
Speaker 19: couple is not working for a while while you're having

1275
00:59:02,853 --> 00:59:06,173
Speaker 19: the children, they're being supported by the one working anyway,

1276
00:59:06,613 --> 00:59:10,213
Speaker 19: so you know, what have they lost anyways, I've been supported.

1277
00:59:10,813 --> 00:59:11,013
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1278
00:59:11,213 --> 00:59:13,533
Speaker 2: I wonder how many relationships that could have blossomed into

1279
00:59:13,573 --> 00:59:17,213
Speaker 2: something get shut down with a text message on day

1280
00:59:18,013 --> 00:59:20,933
Speaker 2: you know, two years, three hundred and sixty four days,

1281
00:59:20,973 --> 00:59:23,773
Speaker 2: because you just set a calendard.

1282
00:59:24,693 --> 00:59:25,173
Speaker 3: Getting close.

1283
00:59:25,293 --> 00:59:27,053
Speaker 2: If I had another year, maybe we'd get married. But

1284
00:59:27,093 --> 00:59:28,493
Speaker 2: I'm not quite ready yet, so we're going to have

1285
00:59:28,493 --> 00:59:29,293
Speaker 2: to cut this off.

1286
00:59:30,253 --> 00:59:32,693
Speaker 3: Malcolm. Thanks, thanks very much for giving us a bus

1287
00:59:33,173 --> 00:59:34,893
Speaker 3: after earn cheers I had one hundred and eighty ten

1288
00:59:34,933 --> 00:59:36,453
Speaker 3: are generally if that is you, if you've been in

1289
00:59:36,493 --> 00:59:39,013
Speaker 3: a defecto relationship and it was getting close to the

1290
00:59:39,093 --> 00:59:41,573
Speaker 3: three year mark at that point, to just sit down

1291
00:59:41,613 --> 00:59:43,253
Speaker 3: with your partner and say we're going to figure out

1292
00:59:43,293 --> 00:59:45,933
Speaker 3: some sort of agreement. Here nine two ninety two is

1293
00:59:46,093 --> 00:59:47,413
Speaker 3: the text as well.

1294
00:59:47,853 --> 00:59:50,773
Speaker 2: Prenups are for rich people. Cute who said that you're

1295
00:59:50,773 --> 00:59:53,213
Speaker 2: talking about a law reform under Helen Clark. The we

1296
00:59:53,493 --> 00:59:55,893
Speaker 2: just rent together de facto can turn into half your

1297
00:59:55,973 --> 00:59:58,933
Speaker 2: Kiwi savor, your earnings and effect, and half your savings

1298
00:59:58,973 --> 01:00:01,413
Speaker 2: and a chunk of everything you buy later after a split.

1299
01:00:01,493 --> 01:00:04,533
Speaker 2: For an average couple with a few assets. That's not romance.

1300
01:00:04,653 --> 01:00:06,053
Speaker 2: That's a long term liability.

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Speaker 3: Interesting oh one hundred eighty eight ten eighties and number

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Speaker 3: to cool. Love to hear from you. If you've signed

1303
01:00:10,893 --> 01:00:13,573
Speaker 3: a prenup, Why did you do it? It is twenty

1304
01:00:13,693 --> 01:00:14,253
Speaker 3: seven to three.

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to text my partner and soay, get

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Speaker 2: out of my house. How long have you got We've

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Speaker 2: been going out about two and a half years, but

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Speaker 2: six months.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Railing. So we're talking about the

1331
01:01:41,853 --> 01:01:45,893
Speaker 3: idea of pre nups or contractual agreements. If you've been

1332
01:01:45,933 --> 01:01:48,733
Speaker 3: in a de facto relationship for more than three years

1333
01:01:48,813 --> 01:01:49,373
Speaker 3: if you've done that.

1334
01:01:49,493 --> 01:01:52,373
Speaker 2: Why it's interesting when you look into laws. Sometimes they

1335
01:01:53,493 --> 01:01:57,173
Speaker 2: because the property law from nineteen seventy six, the property

1336
01:01:57,213 --> 01:02:01,773
Speaker 2: relationships law that was married couples, right, but in two

1337
01:02:01,853 --> 01:02:06,253
Speaker 2: thousand and one that was amended to include people that

1338
01:02:06,333 --> 01:02:10,373
Speaker 2: have been living together for for three years. So that's

1339
01:02:10,533 --> 01:02:13,213
Speaker 2: quite an aggressive amendment, isn't it. It is that you've

1340
01:02:13,253 --> 01:02:15,333
Speaker 2: just been living together for three years, and the idea

1341
01:02:15,533 --> 01:02:18,653
Speaker 2: is that it's recognizing that both partners contribute to a relationship.

1342
01:02:18,853 --> 01:02:22,013
Speaker 2: But you don't know that kere giving homemaking and support

1343
01:02:22,093 --> 01:02:24,293
Speaker 2: and stuff. But you could have a three year relationship

1344
01:02:24,333 --> 01:02:26,373
Speaker 2: with someone's just a drunken piece of crap that sits

1345
01:02:26,413 --> 01:02:29,413
Speaker 2: on the couch all day. Very true, Absolutely nothing. So

1346
01:02:29,653 --> 01:02:31,933
Speaker 2: just just say because you've been together for three years,

1347
01:02:31,973 --> 01:02:36,173
Speaker 2: you've equally contributed to the relationship such that that person

1348
01:02:36,253 --> 01:02:38,733
Speaker 2: that didn't have any property suddenly owns half the property.

1349
01:02:39,133 --> 01:02:42,293
Speaker 2: That's a truly evil law. I mean, it makes total

1350
01:02:42,373 --> 01:02:45,293
Speaker 2: sense when it comes to a marriage, right, where people

1351
01:02:45,453 --> 01:02:48,693
Speaker 2: buy a house together or bring up kids together and

1352
01:02:48,973 --> 01:02:51,573
Speaker 2: they're making a family. But who knows that. I mean,

1353
01:02:51,653 --> 01:02:54,173
Speaker 2: you can have a pretty loose relationship for three years. Yeah,

1354
01:02:54,253 --> 01:02:56,933
Speaker 2: a three year relationship could have been pretty casual.

1355
01:02:57,213 --> 01:02:58,693
Speaker 3: That's what it hangs on, though, isn't it. Because I

1356
01:02:58,773 --> 01:03:00,933
Speaker 3: understand when they changed that it was about bringing in

1357
01:03:01,013 --> 01:03:04,413
Speaker 3: defecto relationships into it. That if people decided they didn't

1358
01:03:04,413 --> 01:03:06,373
Speaker 3: want to marry for whatever reason, they're still part of

1359
01:03:06,453 --> 01:03:08,573
Speaker 3: that deal. But I can't figure out why they added

1360
01:03:08,653 --> 01:03:10,413
Speaker 3: on three years. I mean, you could say ten years.

1361
01:03:10,413 --> 01:03:12,573
Speaker 3: If you've been in a defecto relationship for ten years,

1362
01:03:12,813 --> 01:03:14,493
Speaker 3: you didn't want to get married because it's not your thing.

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01:03:15,213 --> 01:03:18,333
Speaker 2: You never got serious after three years. Ten years, Yeah,

1364
01:03:18,373 --> 01:03:20,693
Speaker 2: ten years would make a good nudge, because that's building

1365
01:03:20,773 --> 01:03:22,853
Speaker 2: things together over that. Ten years makes sense if you

1366
01:03:22,933 --> 01:03:26,533
Speaker 2: got married because you've made a definite COMMITMENTEP. Sure, three years,

1367
01:03:27,213 --> 01:03:31,493
Speaker 2: but you've if you're just you know, going around together,

1368
01:03:32,253 --> 01:03:34,573
Speaker 2: you know, and you happened because you know, some people

1369
01:03:34,613 --> 01:03:37,533
Speaker 2: will move into a house because it's convenient whatever. Doesn't

1370
01:03:37,613 --> 01:03:40,533
Speaker 2: mean that they're you know, soulmates.

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Speaker 9: Yet.

1372
01:03:41,453 --> 01:03:45,373
Speaker 2: That's a really that's a really really full on law.

1373
01:03:45,973 --> 01:03:48,533
Speaker 2: James says, I had a partner around thirteen years ago

1374
01:03:48,573 --> 01:03:51,293
Speaker 2: who once said I'm looking forward to when we're together

1375
01:03:51,373 --> 01:03:53,613
Speaker 2: three years. So both our names are on the mortgage.

1376
01:03:53,933 --> 01:03:55,973
Speaker 2: The house was one I had purchased alone. Partner had

1377
01:03:56,013 --> 01:03:59,333
Speaker 2: no assets or savings. The seemingly throwaway comments spook me,

1378
01:03:59,413 --> 01:04:00,653
Speaker 2: so I broke up with her just before.

1379
01:04:00,693 --> 01:04:03,893
Speaker 3: The theory it leads to much strategy. I mean the

1380
01:04:03,933 --> 01:04:08,973
Speaker 3: facts they said that would indicate that she's after your money. Gerard,

1381
01:04:09,053 --> 01:04:09,653
Speaker 3: how are you mate?

1382
01:04:10,293 --> 01:04:10,493
Speaker 14: Good?

1383
01:04:10,613 --> 01:04:10,893
Speaker 16: Self?

1384
01:04:11,333 --> 01:04:13,373
Speaker 3: Good? So what do you reckon about a prenup?

1385
01:04:14,093 --> 01:04:14,293
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1386
01:04:14,733 --> 01:04:16,653
Speaker 18: Firstly, I wanted to make a comment on what you

1387
01:04:16,773 --> 01:04:19,453
Speaker 18: guys said. If you meet up with somebody and they

1388
01:04:19,533 --> 01:04:21,973
Speaker 18: sit on the couch for three years, you deserve to

1389
01:04:22,053 --> 01:04:23,093
Speaker 18: lose half of your assets.

1390
01:04:23,613 --> 01:04:27,053
Speaker 2: That Yeah, that is a really good way to look

1391
01:04:27,093 --> 01:04:29,853
Speaker 2: at it. Like what you sort that out? You were

1392
01:04:29,933 --> 01:04:32,293
Speaker 2: just lazy. What it was is you couldn't quite get

1393
01:04:32,453 --> 01:04:33,973
Speaker 2: the carriage up to break up with her, is what

1394
01:04:34,053 --> 01:04:36,893
Speaker 2: it was. So you are weak and you deserve to

1395
01:04:36,933 --> 01:04:37,373
Speaker 2: be punished.

1396
01:04:37,373 --> 01:04:37,733
Speaker 3: I agree.

1397
01:04:38,613 --> 01:04:41,133
Speaker 18: So I've got a different view with regards to prenup.

1398
01:04:41,213 --> 01:04:43,813
Speaker 18: I got a I've been married to my wife now

1399
01:04:43,973 --> 01:04:47,653
Speaker 18: for Oh you didn't get this wrong fifteen years and

1400
01:04:47,893 --> 01:04:50,493
Speaker 18: before we got married, we spoke about the prenup. I

1401
01:04:50,613 --> 01:04:53,853
Speaker 18: brought it up immediately because the reason I brought it

1402
01:04:53,973 --> 01:04:55,973
Speaker 18: up was because I wanted to start my own business,

1403
01:04:56,933 --> 01:05:00,093
Speaker 18: and a prenup is not only to protect your partner

1404
01:05:00,333 --> 01:05:03,573
Speaker 18: from her getting your assets, but it's also to protect

1405
01:05:03,613 --> 01:05:09,093
Speaker 18: them from getting your debt. If my business failed, all right,

1406
01:05:09,813 --> 01:05:14,213
Speaker 18: that debt will not transfer to her. So anybody, for instance,

1407
01:05:14,213 --> 01:05:16,693
Speaker 18: if I've got players that I owed a lot of

1408
01:05:16,733 --> 01:05:19,093
Speaker 18: money to, they cannot go off to my partner if

1409
01:05:19,093 --> 01:05:19,493
Speaker 18: we split.

1410
01:05:19,653 --> 01:05:22,293
Speaker 2: That's the opposite of a greedy prenup. It's a it's

1411
01:05:22,293 --> 01:05:23,373
Speaker 2: a protective prenup.

1412
01:05:24,053 --> 01:05:27,653
Speaker 18: Correct, correct. But when we when we did this, I knew,

1413
01:05:28,013 --> 01:05:31,093
Speaker 18: I'm I believe I'm a pretty honorable person, and if

1414
01:05:31,133 --> 01:05:33,093
Speaker 18: I have children with someone that I would make sure

1415
01:05:33,533 --> 01:05:35,253
Speaker 18: that my kids are taking care of and all that

1416
01:05:35,373 --> 01:05:37,773
Speaker 18: kind of stuff. So I wasn't ever worried about that.

1417
01:05:39,253 --> 01:05:43,173
Speaker 18: But yeah, the prenup was more about protecting her if

1418
01:05:43,253 --> 01:05:44,013
Speaker 18: anything happened with.

1419
01:05:44,053 --> 01:05:46,733
Speaker 3: My business, makes sense? Is the business gone pretty well?

1420
01:05:46,813 --> 01:05:47,093
Speaker 3: De right?

1421
01:05:48,173 --> 01:05:48,373
Speaker 13: Yes?

1422
01:05:48,413 --> 01:05:48,613
Speaker 5: It is?

1423
01:05:48,893 --> 01:05:51,613
Speaker 3: Have you have you brought a brack ind at that point? Yes,

1424
01:05:51,973 --> 01:05:54,133
Speaker 3: oh you have. You're a good man. You're a good man.

1425
01:05:55,573 --> 01:05:57,573
Speaker 3: Say hey, look you took the gamble love and I'm

1426
01:05:57,573 --> 01:06:00,333
Speaker 3: sorry it's gone well, but you know, jeez, you're a catch.

1427
01:06:01,493 --> 01:06:03,453
Speaker 2: Look you're an honorable successful man.

1428
01:06:05,733 --> 01:06:09,413
Speaker 18: It's it's but that's then again, like luck previous causes

1429
01:06:09,493 --> 01:06:11,613
Speaker 18: said duct that she is my soulmate, and I don't

1430
01:06:11,733 --> 01:06:13,853
Speaker 18: I don't believe that I am going to be leaving her,

1431
01:06:14,693 --> 01:06:17,613
Speaker 18: and I went in it worth Yes, if anything, she

1432
01:06:17,733 --> 01:06:21,373
Speaker 18: does get half of whatever I make, which is like,

1433
01:06:21,493 --> 01:06:23,853
Speaker 18: I mean, isn't that what you want for your kids?

1434
01:06:23,933 --> 01:06:24,413
Speaker 13: More or less?

1435
01:06:25,053 --> 01:06:28,773
Speaker 18: I also believe, I also do believe prenups are prenups

1436
01:06:28,813 --> 01:06:32,013
Speaker 18: should not be about your assets and her assets. If

1437
01:06:32,093 --> 01:06:36,373
Speaker 18: you have children, you explain to me, or you give

1438
01:06:36,413 --> 01:06:39,533
Speaker 18: me an example of any breakup in the future that

1439
01:06:39,733 --> 01:06:43,053
Speaker 18: went amicably. In other words, they had children, and then

1440
01:06:43,053 --> 01:06:45,493
Speaker 18: all of a sudden, the wif is using the children

1441
01:06:45,533 --> 01:06:48,413
Speaker 18: against the husband, or the husband's using the children against

1442
01:06:48,413 --> 01:06:53,053
Speaker 18: the wife, right because when the asset, when the breakup happens,

1443
01:06:53,213 --> 01:06:55,133
Speaker 18: the husband no, no, I've got too much to lose,

1444
01:06:55,333 --> 01:06:57,733
Speaker 18: and he starts using the children against her, or she says, no,

1445
01:06:58,133 --> 01:07:00,373
Speaker 18: I don't have enough. She uses the children against him.

1446
01:07:00,773 --> 01:07:03,933
Speaker 18: A prenup. If you had a prenup that was fifty

1447
01:07:03,933 --> 01:07:06,653
Speaker 18: to fifty down the middle because the children are involved,

1448
01:07:07,693 --> 01:07:09,533
Speaker 18: that would that's all that in court going mate, you

1449
01:07:09,533 --> 01:07:11,693
Speaker 18: guys have a prenup fifty to fifty down the line,

1450
01:07:12,173 --> 01:07:14,413
Speaker 18: and then both parties leave away with it with exactly

1451
01:07:14,453 --> 01:07:16,893
Speaker 18: hof it. I don't believe that that like that that

1452
01:07:17,013 --> 01:07:19,893
Speaker 18: should be a given on any any any marriage. It

1453
01:07:20,053 --> 01:07:22,093
Speaker 18: gives you got children, if you got children, murders.

1454
01:07:22,093 --> 01:07:24,933
Speaker 2: What do you say to Really? What I was saying

1455
01:07:24,973 --> 01:07:27,333
Speaker 2: before is I think when you go into marriage, right,

1456
01:07:27,493 --> 01:07:29,733
Speaker 2: that's when you're moving it up from something where you

1457
01:07:30,373 --> 01:07:32,493
Speaker 2: you know, and you're in your situation, you're you're caring

1458
01:07:32,493 --> 01:07:35,893
Speaker 2: about assets and protecting your wife. And I think that's awesome.

1459
01:07:36,333 --> 01:07:39,613
Speaker 2: But to ask someone to marry you as saying that

1460
01:07:39,813 --> 01:07:42,573
Speaker 2: I'm going to take a risk on you and and

1461
01:07:43,013 --> 01:07:45,053
Speaker 2: and I'm going to try and this is this is

1462
01:07:45,333 --> 01:07:47,693
Speaker 2: this is for life. We're going to work on this together.

1463
01:07:47,773 --> 01:07:49,613
Speaker 2: There's going to be ups and downs, but this is

1464
01:07:49,813 --> 01:07:53,973
Speaker 2: us becoming one unit going forward. And I kind of

1465
01:07:54,013 --> 01:07:58,333
Speaker 2: think that is what marriage is as opposed to any

1466
01:07:58,373 --> 01:08:00,053
Speaker 2: other kind of relationship. You can you don't have to

1467
01:08:00,093 --> 01:08:02,293
Speaker 2: get married, but the point of getting married is you're

1468
01:08:02,333 --> 01:08:04,533
Speaker 2: going we're going to do this together. And I think

1469
01:08:04,573 --> 01:08:08,013
Speaker 2: you're freaking awesome. Tyler just asked have to get married

1470
01:08:08,053 --> 01:08:10,173
Speaker 2: isn't it. That's where you asked to get married. You're

1471
01:08:10,173 --> 01:08:12,053
Speaker 2: not because you could stay in not getting married.

1472
01:08:12,533 --> 01:08:14,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think I've been pretty open on this

1473
01:08:14,733 --> 01:08:17,213
Speaker 3: show that it wasn't something that I was that hot on,

1474
01:08:17,412 --> 01:08:19,492
Speaker 3: not because of you know, I was pretty neutral on

1475
01:08:19,572 --> 01:08:21,652
Speaker 3: the idea of marriage, but it was important to her.

1476
01:08:22,532 --> 01:08:24,612
Speaker 3: I had not said that before. It was very important

1477
01:08:24,652 --> 01:08:27,772
Speaker 3: to her, But I kind of took the stance that

1478
01:08:27,893 --> 01:08:30,932
Speaker 3: we've been together long enough that always knew that if

1479
01:08:30,933 --> 01:08:33,412
Speaker 3: anything goes goes wrong, we split it at fifty to fifty.

1480
01:08:33,532 --> 01:08:36,532
Speaker 3: What is mine is hers and vice versa. She didn't

1481
01:08:36,532 --> 01:08:38,133
Speaker 3: really have much at that stage, but that's the way

1482
01:08:38,173 --> 01:08:40,973
Speaker 3: it goes. But yeah, I mean, once we tie the

1483
01:08:41,053 --> 01:08:43,812
Speaker 3: knot in about two years time, that's it. That's all.

1484
01:08:44,093 --> 01:08:47,173
Speaker 3: You're right, that's the final step to say that this

1485
01:08:47,333 --> 01:08:49,732
Speaker 3: is the big you know, the final commitment. I was

1486
01:08:49,772 --> 01:08:52,533
Speaker 3: already committed, but this is the legal framework.

1487
01:08:52,253 --> 01:08:54,013
Speaker 2: And if it blows up, that's a failure of you

1488
01:08:54,213 --> 01:08:56,812
Speaker 2: to do the work required to keep the relationship going.

1489
01:08:57,253 --> 01:08:57,452
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1490
01:08:58,253 --> 01:09:00,772
Speaker 18: Now, now, all of those comments that you were saying,

1491
01:09:01,173 --> 01:09:03,452
Speaker 18: if you had said that in the nineteen eighties, I

1492
01:09:03,492 --> 01:09:06,453
Speaker 18: would have agreed with you. But with how far feminism

1493
01:09:06,572 --> 01:09:10,372
Speaker 18: has come in the last ten years. After ten years,

1494
01:09:11,492 --> 01:09:14,133
Speaker 18: I feel a lot of guards out there or trying

1495
01:09:14,133 --> 01:09:14,932
Speaker 18: to protect themselves.

1496
01:09:16,253 --> 01:09:17,892
Speaker 13: All right, well, I think I think.

1497
01:09:17,853 --> 01:09:20,173
Speaker 18: That that that's why this prenup is starting to become

1498
01:09:20,213 --> 01:09:21,652
Speaker 18: a really big thing in the world today.

1499
01:09:21,812 --> 01:09:23,933
Speaker 2: All right, Girard, you sound like a great man, and

1500
01:09:24,053 --> 01:09:25,973
Speaker 2: good on you in your life. Your wife's lucky to

1501
01:09:26,013 --> 01:09:26,253
Speaker 2: have you.

1502
01:09:26,333 --> 01:09:30,492
Speaker 3: Many excellent what a catch, Girard, Thank you very much. Mate.

1503
01:09:30,572 --> 01:09:33,692
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Have you done

1504
01:09:33,732 --> 01:09:35,972
Speaker 3: an agreement, whether it's a pre nup, I mean pre nup,

1505
01:09:36,093 --> 01:09:38,612
Speaker 3: you know it's not pre nuptials? Have you got an

1506
01:09:38,612 --> 01:09:41,412
Speaker 3: agreement before you've ticked over the three year defecto relationship.

1507
01:09:41,452 --> 01:09:43,692
Speaker 3: Love to hear from you and the Texas nine two nine.

1508
01:09:43,652 --> 01:09:46,852
Speaker 2: Two women don't change heath your muppet. Have you not

1509
01:09:46,933 --> 01:09:50,213
Speaker 2: heard of menopause? I have heard of menopause. I don't

1510
01:09:50,213 --> 01:09:50,772
Speaker 2: know a lot about it.

1511
01:09:51,333 --> 01:09:53,253
Speaker 3: But is that a factor? Does that come into it?

1512
01:09:54,732 --> 01:09:58,532
Speaker 2: What happens with menopause? I you know, does your partner

1513
01:09:58,572 --> 01:10:00,053
Speaker 2: change into a totally different human being?

1514
01:10:00,333 --> 01:10:00,532
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1515
01:10:00,893 --> 01:10:01,652
Speaker 13: That is it?

1516
01:10:01,812 --> 01:10:04,372
Speaker 2: Kind of you sort of. It's not like a weir

1517
01:10:04,412 --> 01:10:05,213
Speaker 2: Wolf type situation.

1518
01:10:05,293 --> 01:10:07,572
Speaker 3: Does it could be? If you know, please let us know.

1519
01:10:07,692 --> 01:10:11,293
Speaker 1: It has called it the big stories, the big issues,

1520
01:10:11,532 --> 01:10:14,652
Speaker 1: the big trends, and everything in between. Matt Heath and

1521
01:10:14,893 --> 01:10:18,772
Speaker 1: Tyler Adams Afternoons with Skoda. Please go to codes every

1522
01:10:18,853 --> 01:10:22,532
Speaker 1: day at scoter dot co News Talks. That'd be twelve

1523
01:10:22,652 --> 01:10:25,252
Speaker 1: to three. We're talking about prenups or the idea of prenups.

1524
01:10:25,293 --> 01:10:27,372
Speaker 2: A couple of texts coming through here. Matt, didn't I

1525
01:10:27,452 --> 01:10:30,732
Speaker 2: hear you say once that marriage is just an exercise

1526
01:10:30,772 --> 01:10:33,133
Speaker 2: in giving a woman you hate a house. I might

1527
01:10:33,173 --> 01:10:35,732
Speaker 2: have said that, but in jest, right, I have said

1528
01:10:35,732 --> 01:10:36,492
Speaker 2: a lot of stupid things.

1529
01:10:36,532 --> 01:10:38,692
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, see this is why happens. Mate. It's all recorded,

1530
01:10:38,732 --> 01:10:39,812
Speaker 3: it's all out there, And this.

1531
01:10:39,893 --> 01:10:44,412
Speaker 2: Text says misogynists much you try menophors before you try menopause,

1532
01:10:44,452 --> 01:10:46,692
Speaker 2: before you laugh about it. It's not funny. It is real.

1533
01:10:46,893 --> 01:10:48,732
Speaker 2: I didn't say it wasn't real. And I don't know

1534
01:10:48,772 --> 01:10:52,372
Speaker 2: how I could try menopause. But I'm just asking the question,

1535
01:10:52,492 --> 01:10:55,372
Speaker 2: does it change someone so much menopause that if you

1536
01:10:55,532 --> 01:10:58,972
Speaker 2: marry someone. I know lots of people who've stayed married

1537
01:10:59,013 --> 01:11:01,852
Speaker 2: through menopause. I don't think it changes someone so much

1538
01:11:01,893 --> 01:11:03,972
Speaker 2: that you shouldn't get married to someone because they're definitely

1539
01:11:04,013 --> 01:11:05,532
Speaker 2: going to turn into a different person when they go

1540
01:11:05,572 --> 01:11:07,932
Speaker 2: through menopause. Yeah, I think that might be a challenging

1541
01:11:08,013 --> 01:11:11,053
Speaker 2: time them people. Yep, I think I think that's part

1542
01:11:11,053 --> 01:11:12,492
Speaker 2: of it. If you're going to marry someone, you're going

1543
01:11:12,572 --> 01:11:14,173
Speaker 2: to have to you're going to have to help them

1544
01:11:14,173 --> 01:11:15,052
Speaker 2: through menopause.

1545
01:11:15,173 --> 01:11:17,412
Speaker 3: That's right to us part.

1546
01:11:17,572 --> 01:11:19,172
Speaker 2: But if you've got a way I can try minopause,

1547
01:11:19,213 --> 01:11:19,652
Speaker 2: I'm up for it.

1548
01:11:20,612 --> 01:11:24,133
Speaker 3: He means that, Stacy, How are you mate?

1549
01:11:25,293 --> 01:11:25,652
Speaker 15: Very well?

1550
01:11:25,812 --> 01:11:26,652
Speaker 13: How are you guys today?

1551
01:11:26,853 --> 01:11:30,173
Speaker 3: God? See, you're triggered one hundred triggered.

1552
01:11:30,253 --> 01:11:35,732
Speaker 20: Yeah, having having gone through the process and understanding the system. Yeah,

1553
01:11:35,772 --> 01:11:39,412
Speaker 20: it's called it's called a contracting out agreement, and yeah,

1554
01:11:39,452 --> 01:11:41,652
Speaker 20: I think most people probably should get ones. Visual if

1555
01:11:41,692 --> 01:11:45,133
Speaker 20: you've come into a relationship with assets, I me and

1556
01:11:45,213 --> 01:11:49,412
Speaker 20: my current partner, who's not the mother and my children. Yeah,

1557
01:11:49,973 --> 01:11:52,532
Speaker 20: I came in with some assets, she's come some and

1558
01:11:52,652 --> 01:11:55,293
Speaker 20: then we've set up an arrangement in the middle that

1559
01:11:55,372 --> 01:11:57,372
Speaker 20: where we share ours And I think that's a pretty

1560
01:11:57,452 --> 01:11:58,973
Speaker 20: prudent way of doing it.

1561
01:11:59,572 --> 01:12:05,412
Speaker 2: When should you do it, Stacy? Before you get to

1562
01:12:05,452 --> 01:12:10,453
Speaker 2: that three year mark, Addy.

1563
01:12:09,692 --> 01:12:12,173
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, Bobby, could you can always raise it there

1564
01:12:14,173 --> 01:12:15,173
Speaker 13: it's a red flag or not.

1565
01:12:15,492 --> 01:12:18,652
Speaker 6: You could be able of a red flag, as she says, no, it.

1566
01:12:18,652 --> 01:12:20,572
Speaker 2: Could be quite exciting to have the confidence to sit

1567
01:12:20,652 --> 01:12:23,053
Speaker 2: down with a prenup agreement. I don't even know you

1568
01:12:23,173 --> 01:12:25,412
Speaker 2: before we start speaking, but if this goes anywhere, I'm

1569
01:12:25,412 --> 01:12:26,612
Speaker 2: going to get you to sign what do you call

1570
01:12:26,692 --> 01:12:28,452
Speaker 2: the contracting out agreement?

1571
01:12:29,013 --> 01:12:29,532
Speaker 3: That agreement.

1572
01:12:30,612 --> 01:12:31,973
Speaker 2: I just want to slide this in front of you

1573
01:12:32,093 --> 01:12:33,572
Speaker 2: before we get a drink.

1574
01:12:33,732 --> 01:12:34,612
Speaker 3: Spell move. Yeah.

1575
01:12:35,652 --> 01:12:39,412
Speaker 20: That it opens your eyes to how people do think

1576
01:12:39,492 --> 01:12:42,812
Speaker 20: and also sets pretty pretty good boundaries on what you

1577
01:12:42,853 --> 01:12:43,932
Speaker 20: would and wouldn't include.

1578
01:12:44,333 --> 01:12:46,572
Speaker 2: Are you triggering you've got stung stacy?

1579
01:12:47,652 --> 01:12:49,212
Speaker 20: Oh yeah, I've been through the process.

1580
01:12:49,333 --> 01:12:50,612
Speaker 3: I know it inside and out.

1581
01:12:51,133 --> 01:12:52,652
Speaker 18: I know how how it all works.

1582
01:12:53,412 --> 01:12:54,933
Speaker 21: And I think, Bob, with the couple of.

1583
01:12:54,933 --> 01:12:58,013
Speaker 20: The callers you've had before, there's a certain part of

1584
01:12:58,173 --> 01:13:02,452
Speaker 20: the Relationship Property Act called economic disparity. So one of

1585
01:13:02,492 --> 01:13:06,693
Speaker 20: the partners hasn't been working, then they can claim additional

1586
01:13:06,853 --> 01:13:10,972
Speaker 20: assets additional value of assets over and above. So typically

1587
01:13:11,053 --> 01:13:15,692
Speaker 20: that works out at a sixty forty assets split. So yeah,

1588
01:13:15,772 --> 01:13:17,492
Speaker 20: that if you have been working and you've got a

1589
01:13:17,572 --> 01:13:20,372
Speaker 20: career and the other person says that they haven't, then yeah,

1590
01:13:20,412 --> 01:13:22,492
Speaker 20: that's kind of the asset split you do get and

1591
01:13:22,612 --> 01:13:23,932
Speaker 20: that hurts, That really hurts.

1592
01:13:24,893 --> 01:13:27,012
Speaker 3: Stacy, thank you very much for giving us a buzz.

1593
01:13:27,853 --> 01:13:29,852
Speaker 3: You know that's a clause if you marry a bum

1594
01:13:30,492 --> 01:13:33,572
Speaker 3: fit and fair enough too. It is nine minutes to

1595
01:13:33,652 --> 01:13:35,572
Speaker 3: three bagary shortly the.

1596
01:13:35,652 --> 01:13:38,213
Speaker 1: Issues that affect you, and a bit of fun along

1597
01:13:38,253 --> 01:13:42,173
Speaker 1: the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

1598
01:13:41,893 --> 01:13:42,213
Speaker 15: They'd be.

1599
01:13:44,412 --> 01:13:46,132
Speaker 3: Tony, We've got about sixty seconds.

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01:13:46,973 --> 01:13:47,572
Speaker 13: Yes, I hear.

1601
01:13:48,372 --> 01:13:51,053
Speaker 21: Look, I think it's just a poorly drafted law. It's

1602
01:13:51,133 --> 01:13:54,293
Speaker 21: too blunt. It covers basically says everyone's on the same

1603
01:13:54,372 --> 01:13:58,013
Speaker 21: type of relationship. If you're young and you haven't got

1604
01:13:58,053 --> 01:14:00,732
Speaker 21: any assets, and both of you come together, great, grow

1605
01:14:00,812 --> 01:14:01,813
Speaker 21: your lives together.

1606
01:14:01,853 --> 01:14:01,933
Speaker 14: And.

1607
01:14:03,492 --> 01:14:04,133
Speaker 13: Of course you should.

1608
01:14:04,213 --> 01:14:05,972
Speaker 21: And if you split ten fifteen years down the track,

1609
01:14:05,973 --> 01:14:08,732
Speaker 21: it should be split fifty to fifty. I mean most

1610
01:14:08,732 --> 01:14:11,052
Speaker 21: people that have rung in today have been through the process.

1611
01:14:11,133 --> 01:14:15,772
Speaker 21: It's hugely unfair. It's very damaging, and the law makes

1612
01:14:15,812 --> 01:14:18,133
Speaker 21: a lot of people do things and make people have

1613
01:14:18,253 --> 01:14:19,893
Speaker 21: conversations that they would rather not have.

1614
01:14:20,772 --> 01:14:21,732
Speaker 13: But for example, for.

1615
01:14:21,812 --> 01:14:24,772
Speaker 21: Me, I'd had a marriage that lasted four years, we

1616
01:14:24,853 --> 01:14:28,333
Speaker 21: had a child, and their marriage ended. I bought into

1617
01:14:28,372 --> 01:14:31,132
Speaker 21: the relationship substantial amount of money and assets.

1618
01:14:31,572 --> 01:14:32,732
Speaker 13: My partner bought it nothing.

1619
01:14:34,053 --> 01:14:35,933
Speaker 21: Luckily, most of those things were in a trust and

1620
01:14:35,973 --> 01:14:38,093
Speaker 21: it was done at a time where trust protective things.

1621
01:14:38,772 --> 01:14:41,892
Speaker 21: I ended up giving by my ex wife a house,

1622
01:14:42,772 --> 01:14:44,932
Speaker 21: paying for my child's education, paying.

1623
01:14:44,732 --> 01:14:46,053
Speaker 22: For everything my child does.

1624
01:14:47,772 --> 01:14:50,133
Speaker 21: And I did that because I'm a good person. I

1625
01:14:50,213 --> 01:14:54,253
Speaker 21: want the best for my children. Now I'm in a

1626
01:14:54,372 --> 01:14:58,133
Speaker 21: much even better financial position. I've met a beautiful woman,

1627
01:14:58,213 --> 01:15:01,412
Speaker 21: a lovely woman, a kind, loving woman. We've been together

1628
01:15:01,492 --> 01:15:04,853
Speaker 21: a year and a half. I intend that this relationship

1629
01:15:05,133 --> 01:15:07,492
Speaker 21: for it to last forever. But of course I'm going

1630
01:15:07,572 --> 01:15:08,253
Speaker 21: to have a pre nup.

1631
01:15:08,372 --> 01:15:10,972
Speaker 3: Good on your tony smart man, very goods.

1632
01:15:11,333 --> 01:15:16,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, my menopause was bad, says this texter. I went

1633
01:15:16,213 --> 01:15:19,333
Speaker 2: a bit crazy, but I came back and we are okay.

1634
01:15:19,452 --> 01:15:21,532
Speaker 2: But ladies, wait till you see what happens to men

1635
01:15:21,572 --> 01:15:23,052
Speaker 2: when their testosterone drops.

1636
01:15:22,853 --> 01:15:24,452
Speaker 3: Off a club Yeah yeah, good point.

1637
01:15:24,572 --> 01:15:25,972
Speaker 2: That is menopause on steroids.

1638
01:15:26,093 --> 01:15:29,412
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I bet it. Well, so I've been told.

1639
01:15:29,572 --> 01:15:31,772
Speaker 3: I mean, I think my testosterone is pretty good. Don't know,

1640
01:15:32,732 --> 01:15:34,732
Speaker 3: maybe not. I don't know. I'm going to do some

1641
01:15:34,853 --> 01:15:38,612
Speaker 3: tests right, great discussion, Thank you very much to everyone

1642
01:15:38,612 --> 01:15:41,412
Speaker 3: who text and called on that one. That is where

1643
01:15:41,412 --> 01:15:44,772
Speaker 3: we'll leave it because after three o'clock, fascinating discussion that's

1644
01:15:44,853 --> 01:15:49,412
Speaker 3: going viral online and the question is who should speak

1645
01:15:49,452 --> 01:15:53,253
Speaker 3: for humanity if aliens visit earth? Curly question. Love to

1646
01:15:53,293 --> 01:15:54,892
Speaker 3: hear your thoughts on that. One O eight, one hundred

1647
01:15:54,893 --> 01:15:56,812
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Nine

1648
01:15:56,893 --> 01:15:59,692
Speaker 3: two ninety two is the text New Sport and we're

1649
01:15:59,732 --> 01:16:02,612
Speaker 3: the fast approaching ct Evy company. As always, you're listening

1650
01:16:02,652 --> 01:16:05,133
Speaker 3: to Matton Tyler back very surely.

1651
01:16:10,253 --> 01:16:15,492
Speaker 4: Town Flaws and only twice your home for insightful and

1652
01:16:15,853 --> 01:16:16,732
Speaker 4: entertaining talk.

1653
01:16:16,893 --> 01:16:20,452
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons with Skoda on

1654
01:16:20,652 --> 01:16:21,213
Speaker 1: News Talks.

1655
01:16:21,213 --> 01:16:25,213
Speaker 3: There be very good afternoon, Ji, it is six pass three.

1656
01:16:25,372 --> 01:16:28,253
Speaker 3: Great to have you listening this afternoon. It's going to

1657
01:16:28,293 --> 01:16:32,093
Speaker 3: be a doozy of a discussion. So there is a

1658
01:16:32,853 --> 01:16:35,253
Speaker 3: it's gone viral at the moment, all online and it's

1659
01:16:35,293 --> 01:16:38,013
Speaker 3: a question of the century. It's been talked up and

1660
01:16:38,093 --> 01:16:41,333
Speaker 3: the question is who should speak for humanity if aliens

1661
01:16:41,612 --> 01:16:45,572
Speaker 3: visit the Earth? It's a big question. But coincidentally, in

1662
01:16:45,612 --> 01:16:48,652
Speaker 3: a wine Raging interview published over the weekend, former President

1663
01:16:48,732 --> 01:16:53,253
Speaker 3: Barack Obama confirmed what many have been waiting for. Aliens

1664
01:16:53,293 --> 01:16:55,532
Speaker 3: are in fact real, and they're not being kept at

1665
01:16:55,612 --> 01:16:58,932
Speaker 3: Nevada's Area fifty one. So he was asked about aliens,

1666
01:16:58,973 --> 01:17:02,133
Speaker 3: he said, I quote, they are real. I haven't seen

1667
01:17:02,173 --> 01:17:03,692
Speaker 3: them because of the audio. Here's a little bit of

1668
01:17:03,732 --> 01:17:04,173
Speaker 3: that audio.

1669
01:17:04,492 --> 01:17:08,852
Speaker 2: Are aliens real? The real? But I have seen them

1670
01:17:08,893 --> 01:17:13,852
Speaker 2: and and they're not being kept in UH fifty one.

1671
01:17:14,532 --> 01:17:21,253
Speaker 13: There's no underground facility unless there's this enormous conspiracy and

1672
01:17:21,452 --> 01:17:23,732
Speaker 13: they hid it from the president of the United States.

1673
01:17:24,253 --> 01:17:27,173
Speaker 4: What was the first question you wanted answered when you

1674
01:17:27,253 --> 01:17:27,932
Speaker 4: became president?

1675
01:17:28,893 --> 01:17:29,013
Speaker 14: Uh?

1676
01:17:30,053 --> 01:17:30,812
Speaker 2: Where are the aliens?

1677
01:17:31,253 --> 01:17:31,893
Speaker 3: The aliences?

1678
01:17:33,372 --> 01:17:36,012
Speaker 2: Who is there is there a person that you most

1679
01:17:36,053 --> 01:17:37,492
Speaker 2: want to meet that you haven't met yet.

1680
01:17:37,933 --> 01:17:38,492
Speaker 15: Be honest with you.

1681
01:17:40,333 --> 01:17:43,013
Speaker 2: Being president or even being the next president. Let's cut

1682
01:17:43,013 --> 01:17:45,972
Speaker 2: this off. Who is this? Who is this interviewer?

1683
01:17:46,093 --> 01:17:48,772
Speaker 3: So his name is Brian Tyler Cohen.

1684
01:17:48,973 --> 01:17:52,933
Speaker 2: He is the biggest muppet on planet Earth. So a

1685
01:17:53,093 --> 01:17:56,932
Speaker 2: president that was president for eight years is definitely aliens.

1686
01:17:57,612 --> 01:18:01,612
Speaker 2: And then he says, you know, the first question I

1687
01:18:01,692 --> 01:18:05,093
Speaker 2: asked and this muppet of an interviewer doesn't drill on that.

1688
01:18:05,293 --> 01:18:08,492
Speaker 2: He goes, who would you like to meet? What that

1689
01:18:08,652 --> 01:18:11,852
Speaker 2: guy should be have his microphone taken off him and

1690
01:18:12,333 --> 01:18:15,412
Speaker 2: beaten around his head, drilling on that he's just said

1691
01:18:16,013 --> 01:18:18,372
Speaker 2: aliens exist. He had the scoop of the sentry and

1692
01:18:18,452 --> 01:18:20,133
Speaker 2: then he said the first question he asked when he

1693
01:18:20,173 --> 01:18:23,652
Speaker 2: got in was are there aliens? And he doesn't drill

1694
01:18:23,692 --> 01:18:25,333
Speaker 2: on that. He goes, he would you like to meet? Oh, well, literally,

1695
01:18:25,333 --> 01:18:27,013
Speaker 2: I'd like to meet the or would like to meet

1696
01:18:27,053 --> 01:18:28,612
Speaker 2: the poop? I think he says it.

1697
01:18:28,692 --> 01:18:29,892
Speaker 3: Does that guy.

1698
01:18:30,612 --> 01:18:33,133
Speaker 2: I'm going to save up and go to America just

1699
01:18:33,173 --> 01:18:33,972
Speaker 2: to taser that guy.

1700
01:18:34,093 --> 01:18:34,932
Speaker 3: He should be tasered.

1701
01:18:35,013 --> 01:18:38,692
Speaker 2: I mean that is generally this is bad interviewers, and

1702
01:18:39,093 --> 01:18:41,132
Speaker 2: I've done it before. We've just got a list of questions.

1703
01:18:41,372 --> 01:18:43,932
Speaker 2: He's probably nervous to be interviewing the president. Yep, fair,

1704
01:18:44,173 --> 01:18:46,372
Speaker 2: and so he's just going through the questions and not

1705
01:18:46,452 --> 01:18:49,572
Speaker 2: listening to what he says. So the president says, aliens exist,

1706
01:18:49,772 --> 01:18:52,012
Speaker 2: Why do you think aliens? What evidence have you seen aliens?

1707
01:18:52,173 --> 01:18:54,293
Speaker 2: You've seen all the files. What are these reports that

1708
01:18:54,412 --> 01:18:59,572
Speaker 2: we've heard from you know, fighter pilots and you know,

1709
01:19:00,412 --> 01:19:03,452
Speaker 2: flight tests, yep, that you know. What have you seen

1710
01:19:04,372 --> 01:19:04,532
Speaker 2: on that?

1711
01:19:04,652 --> 01:19:06,572
Speaker 3: Why do you think they're real? They are real? Yeah,

1712
01:19:06,652 --> 01:19:08,093
Speaker 3: give us some details this and what.

1713
01:19:08,093 --> 01:19:10,173
Speaker 2: I'm so did you get when they answered when you

1714
01:19:10,213 --> 01:19:14,092
Speaker 2: ask the question that they're real? Anyway? So that's a muppet,

1715
01:19:14,213 --> 01:19:14,572
Speaker 2: that guy.

1716
01:19:14,893 --> 01:19:17,412
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm so furious about him. You certainly are.

1717
01:19:18,652 --> 01:19:22,412
Speaker 2: But the wider question that's been going off online over

1718
01:19:22,452 --> 01:19:26,893
Speaker 2: the last week is who should because because aliens, the

1719
01:19:26,973 --> 01:19:29,293
Speaker 2: cliche is they go, take me to your leader. But

1720
01:19:29,452 --> 01:19:31,812
Speaker 2: who do we want if the aliens came here and

1721
01:19:31,853 --> 01:19:35,372
Speaker 2: this is so many, so many, maybe they're here, and

1722
01:19:35,412 --> 01:19:37,093
Speaker 2: there's so many movies around us, who do you send

1723
01:19:37,293 --> 01:19:37,732
Speaker 2: talk to them?

1724
01:19:38,013 --> 01:19:38,612
Speaker 3: Because can you.

1725
01:19:38,612 --> 01:19:39,932
Speaker 2: Trust the scientists to go to them?

1726
01:19:40,013 --> 01:19:40,133
Speaker 9: Now?

1727
01:19:41,652 --> 01:19:41,852
Speaker 15: Well?

1728
01:19:41,933 --> 01:19:43,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also they made up whole lot of stuff

1729
01:19:43,612 --> 01:19:44,492
Speaker 2: around COVID, didn't they?

1730
01:19:44,612 --> 01:19:45,293
Speaker 3: Yep, some of them did.

1731
01:19:46,293 --> 01:19:48,892
Speaker 2: The scientific community has been has kind of lost its

1732
01:19:48,933 --> 01:19:50,972
Speaker 2: way a little bit. I mean, there are great experits,

1733
01:19:51,013 --> 01:19:52,692
Speaker 2: there are great scientists there, But would you trust the

1734
01:19:52,732 --> 01:19:55,772
Speaker 2: scientists go there? Or would they are they? They seem

1735
01:19:55,812 --> 01:19:57,852
Speaker 2: to be so terminally online now that they just bring

1736
01:19:57,973 --> 01:20:00,293
Speaker 2: up some crazy politics. So who would you trust?

1737
01:20:00,412 --> 01:20:00,492
Speaker 15: Oh?

1738
01:20:00,532 --> 01:20:02,412
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number to call.

1739
01:20:02,532 --> 01:20:05,412
Speaker 3: Nine two nine two is the text number. Love to

1740
01:20:05,452 --> 01:20:05,893
Speaker 3: hear from you.

1741
01:20:06,173 --> 01:20:09,612
Speaker 2: I support this, Marcus Lush not a bad idea. And Taylor,

1742
01:20:09,652 --> 01:20:11,133
Speaker 2: I think Marcus lash would be a good person to

1743
01:20:11,133 --> 01:20:13,612
Speaker 2: send to the age do a very good job. If

1744
01:20:13,652 --> 01:20:16,492
Speaker 2: Marcus Lush was interviewing the President and the President had

1745
01:20:16,532 --> 01:20:18,772
Speaker 2: said that aliens exist, do you think Marcus Lush would

1746
01:20:18,812 --> 01:20:20,612
Speaker 2: have moved on to the next question or you have

1747
01:20:20,692 --> 01:20:21,213
Speaker 2: focused on that?

1748
01:20:21,372 --> 01:20:23,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, the next two hours would be alien chat and

1749
01:20:23,412 --> 01:20:26,892
Speaker 3: everybody wanted to hear it. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1750
01:20:27,253 --> 01:20:30,053
Speaker 3: So if the aliens come to Earth, who should we

1751
01:20:30,253 --> 01:20:33,253
Speaker 3: send to speak on behalf of humanity? Love to hear

1752
01:20:33,293 --> 01:20:34,772
Speaker 3: from you? Nineteen ninety was that.

1753
01:20:34,853 --> 01:20:38,692
Speaker 2: Textas textas said, they're already here. Knobs could be well, yeah,

1754
01:20:38,732 --> 01:20:42,972
Speaker 2: well this guy hadn't had an opportunity the president, the ex.

1755
01:20:42,933 --> 01:20:46,093
Speaker 3: President, absolute idiot. It is eleven past three. Beg fore

1756
01:20:46,133 --> 01:20:48,053
Speaker 3: surely taking your calls? Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

1757
01:20:48,133 --> 01:20:51,812
Speaker 3: eighty U's talk sa'd be thirteen past three. So who

1758
01:20:51,812 --> 01:20:54,093
Speaker 3: should we pick to speak for humanity if the aliens

1759
01:20:54,372 --> 01:20:54,973
Speaker 3: do visit us?

1760
01:20:54,973 --> 01:20:55,013
Speaker 14: So?

1761
01:20:55,093 --> 01:20:57,452
Speaker 3: Eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to

1762
01:20:57,532 --> 01:20:58,053
Speaker 3: call man?

1763
01:20:58,133 --> 01:21:00,852
Speaker 2: You guys away behind? Look up the US Congress sessions

1764
01:21:01,013 --> 01:21:04,333
Speaker 2: on UAP retrievals and sightings in their military. I think

1765
01:21:04,372 --> 01:21:07,053
Speaker 2: it was Kissinger that was the first to communicate with

1766
01:21:07,253 --> 01:21:10,092
Speaker 2: them back in the fifty they walk among us, work

1767
01:21:10,173 --> 01:21:13,412
Speaker 2: him among us. I was really disappointed by those Congress

1768
01:21:13,973 --> 01:21:20,612
Speaker 2: hearings because there was a lot of, you know, secondhand information.

1769
01:21:20,893 --> 01:21:24,452
Speaker 2: I saw this document, but none of this document was there.

1770
01:21:25,133 --> 01:21:28,412
Speaker 2: There wasn't any firsthand There was no physical materials showing.

1771
01:21:29,452 --> 01:21:32,892
Speaker 2: There was no direct proof. In the open session said

1772
01:21:32,933 --> 01:21:34,972
Speaker 2: that he said that there was you know, what's his name,

1773
01:21:35,053 --> 01:21:39,732
Speaker 2: that guy that was talking. Was his name Gross or something,

1774
01:21:39,812 --> 01:21:42,852
Speaker 2: David Gross, the former Air Force intelligence officer. I'm saying

1775
01:21:42,933 --> 01:21:47,253
Speaker 2: his name wrong, but he didn't. There was no direct proof.

1776
01:21:47,452 --> 01:21:48,933
Speaker 2: So you got this Congress thing. He came with no

1777
01:21:49,013 --> 01:21:51,532
Speaker 2: direct direct proof. He said this classified details that he

1778
01:21:52,013 --> 01:21:54,372
Speaker 2: that he could give privately, but he couldn't come out

1779
01:21:54,412 --> 01:21:56,612
Speaker 2: with it. And I was so long ago. I just

1780
01:21:56,652 --> 01:22:01,012
Speaker 2: feel like, if you had that exact proof, that physical

1781
01:22:01,173 --> 01:22:03,452
Speaker 2: evidence that you can get out there, damn it, you

1782
01:22:03,692 --> 01:22:05,053
Speaker 2: get it out there, you're not going to get any

1783
01:22:05,093 --> 01:22:08,133
Speaker 2: trouble after that. Once the absolute proof of aliens is

1784
01:22:08,173 --> 01:22:10,693
Speaker 2: out there. I think you're going to be Okay.

1785
01:22:10,612 --> 01:22:13,492
Speaker 3: We're all waiting for it. Absolutely, But it was interesting.

1786
01:22:13,612 --> 01:22:16,812
Speaker 3: I mean, look, many many scientists and experts came out

1787
01:22:16,893 --> 01:22:19,732
Speaker 3: saying we've seen them. They're on video, and we can

1788
01:22:19,933 --> 01:22:22,253
Speaker 3: say we don't know what these things are. They are

1789
01:22:22,293 --> 01:22:24,732
Speaker 3: doing things and physics that we can't quite understand.

1790
01:22:24,973 --> 01:22:29,333
Speaker 2: I think there's definitely credible pilot testimony. I think there

1791
01:22:29,452 --> 01:22:32,652
Speaker 2: is credible descriptions from people that you can trust of

1792
01:22:32,692 --> 01:22:36,333
Speaker 2: seeing stuff that they can't explain. But I think he

1793
01:22:36,492 --> 01:22:40,932
Speaker 2: needs in the radar anomalies and and you know there's

1794
01:22:41,013 --> 01:22:45,852
Speaker 2: unresolved cases right absolutely, but there isn't No one has

1795
01:22:45,933 --> 01:22:50,652
Speaker 2: given the physical evidence to say that they're definitely there.

1796
01:22:50,732 --> 01:22:53,293
Speaker 3: The smoking gun. Yeah, oh eight hundred and eighty ten

1797
01:22:53,333 --> 01:22:57,932
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call get a jack, very good?

1798
01:22:57,973 --> 01:22:58,492
Speaker 3: What do you reckon?

1799
01:22:59,492 --> 01:23:03,333
Speaker 15: It should be Trump because you've got a whole world

1800
01:23:03,372 --> 01:23:06,612
Speaker 15: from serious including himself. So they'll talk to him for

1801
01:23:06,692 --> 01:23:08,173
Speaker 15: five minutes and he was out of line.

1802
01:23:10,732 --> 01:23:12,372
Speaker 2: So how would how would you get Trump to the

1803
01:23:12,412 --> 01:23:14,652
Speaker 2: alien So just on a zone or with a delegation.

1804
01:23:15,692 --> 01:23:17,852
Speaker 15: Oh no, you would demand them to be out to

1805
01:23:17,933 --> 01:23:21,452
Speaker 15: own with these don't be a dis door set in

1806
01:23:21,532 --> 01:23:24,013
Speaker 15: five minutes, So.

1807
01:23:24,253 --> 01:23:28,612
Speaker 2: You wouldn't put you wouldn't send any scientists or any

1808
01:23:28,772 --> 01:23:34,133
Speaker 2: people to record what was going on, or I don't know,

1809
01:23:34,652 --> 01:23:37,253
Speaker 2: language language experts, just Trump.

1810
01:23:37,452 --> 01:23:41,333
Speaker 15: Too many scientists get paid by big corporations and the

1811
01:23:41,452 --> 01:23:45,253
Speaker 15: universities get money from big corporations, so there science is

1812
01:23:46,093 --> 01:23:51,372
Speaker 15: often driven a certain direction anymore like they used to be.

1813
01:23:51,612 --> 01:23:53,452
Speaker 2: So did you think there's anyone in the world that

1814
01:23:53,652 --> 01:23:58,732
Speaker 2: is completely uncorrupted that we could send that you think

1815
01:23:58,732 --> 01:23:59,972
Speaker 2: Trump is the least corrupted?

1816
01:24:02,772 --> 01:24:03,053
Speaker 13: What's that?

1817
01:24:03,213 --> 01:24:09,013
Speaker 15: Talk show hosts that does YouTube channel stuff? Appeared on

1818
01:24:09,053 --> 01:24:11,412
Speaker 15: the Gray here he's done up my own Clinton.

1819
01:24:13,732 --> 01:24:19,093
Speaker 3: American guy David Letterman. Oh yeah, Letterman wouldn't be bad

1820
01:24:19,293 --> 01:24:19,973
Speaker 3: with this.

1821
01:24:20,173 --> 01:24:26,572
Speaker 2: And my next guest needs no introduction. Do you know

1822
01:24:26,612 --> 01:24:28,372
Speaker 2: what I reckon? David Letaman wouldn't be too bad.

1823
01:24:28,492 --> 01:24:31,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, we think he's up there. Actually he's very funny.

1824
01:24:31,973 --> 01:24:35,013
Speaker 2: See this, Jack raises a good point, like do you

1825
01:24:35,213 --> 01:24:40,213
Speaker 2: send an interviewer? So I guess it depends. This is

1826
01:24:40,293 --> 01:24:42,732
Speaker 2: your first contact, so you've got the first contact with aliens.

1827
01:24:44,053 --> 01:24:45,652
Speaker 2: And this is why this is blown up and a

1828
01:24:45,692 --> 01:24:47,652
Speaker 2: lot of people have said, countu Reeves is such a

1829
01:24:47,692 --> 01:24:50,492
Speaker 2: good guy. But you've got the first contact with aliens,

1830
01:24:50,532 --> 01:24:52,772
Speaker 2: what do you want to do? You wanna what is

1831
01:24:52,853 --> 01:24:55,972
Speaker 2: your goals with them? It's you don't want to piss

1832
01:24:56,013 --> 01:24:58,133
Speaker 2: them off? Right, Yeah, that's that's the thing. But you

1833
01:24:58,213 --> 01:25:00,932
Speaker 2: want to find out why they're here and what they

1834
01:25:01,013 --> 01:25:05,532
Speaker 2: want and what comes next. Right. So I don't know,

1835
01:25:05,812 --> 01:25:08,812
Speaker 2: sending any politician might be a problem because they're going

1836
01:25:08,893 --> 01:25:10,652
Speaker 2: to say, what's this going to do for my midterms?

1837
01:25:11,093 --> 01:25:14,492
Speaker 3: Yeah? Very good point. Yeah, but also I mean sending

1838
01:25:14,532 --> 01:25:16,333
Speaker 3: a scientist because also you don't want to bore them.

1839
01:25:16,412 --> 01:25:19,093
Speaker 3: I mean, imagine if you were the alien yourself and

1840
01:25:19,133 --> 01:25:21,612
Speaker 3: you turned up to a planet and they send their

1841
01:25:21,652 --> 01:25:23,572
Speaker 3: scientists and all they want to talk to you about

1842
01:25:23,652 --> 01:25:25,812
Speaker 3: is physics. I mean, would you be that chuffed when

1843
01:25:25,812 --> 01:25:27,333
Speaker 3: you get to a new planet. Don't you want something

1844
01:25:27,372 --> 01:25:30,412
Speaker 3: a bit more exciting, someone a bit more personable to say, hey, welcome,

1845
01:25:30,492 --> 01:25:32,173
Speaker 3: let's go get some drinks and party up, and then

1846
01:25:32,173 --> 01:25:33,893
Speaker 3: we can have chats about our physics and all the

1847
01:25:33,933 --> 01:25:34,253
Speaker 3: rest of it.

1848
01:25:35,053 --> 01:25:37,452
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, I mean to aliens drink, well,

1849
01:25:37,572 --> 01:25:39,093
Speaker 2: I hope. So now you turn up with a bunch

1850
01:25:39,133 --> 01:25:42,812
Speaker 2: of alcohol and they go what that's poison? Are you

1851
01:25:42,893 --> 01:25:43,532
Speaker 2: trying to kill us?

1852
01:25:44,372 --> 01:25:45,492
Speaker 3: Get all turned pretty fast?

1853
01:25:45,933 --> 01:25:46,133
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1854
01:25:46,293 --> 01:25:48,372
Speaker 3: Oh on one hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is the

1855
01:25:48,452 --> 01:25:51,812
Speaker 3: number to call. Nine to two is the text as well.

1856
01:25:52,093 --> 01:25:53,933
Speaker 3: If we had to send one person to speak for

1857
01:25:54,053 --> 01:25:56,812
Speaker 3: humanity if aliens visited, who would that be? Love to

1858
01:25:56,812 --> 01:25:58,772
Speaker 3: get your thoughts on it as eighteen past three.

1859
01:25:58,812 --> 01:26:01,532
Speaker 2: And supplementary question, because it's coming through so hot and heavy,

1860
01:26:02,492 --> 01:26:05,932
Speaker 2: what evidence is out there that aliens exist for us

1861
01:26:05,973 --> 01:26:06,772
Speaker 2: to talk to? Already?

1862
01:26:06,933 --> 01:26:08,892
Speaker 3: Come on through It is nineteen part three.

1863
01:26:12,612 --> 01:26:16,933
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams afternoons call oh eight eighty on

1864
01:26:17,093 --> 01:26:17,932
Speaker 1: Youth Talk ZB.

1865
01:26:18,173 --> 01:26:20,892
Speaker 3: It is twenty one past three, So many ticks coming through.

1866
01:26:20,893 --> 01:26:21,492
Speaker 3: On nineteen nine.

1867
01:26:21,532 --> 01:26:25,772
Speaker 2: Two current front runners to talk to the aliens, Joe Rogan,

1868
01:26:26,652 --> 01:26:31,412
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and Graham Norton. Right up there, so someone

1869
01:26:31,492 --> 01:26:34,053
Speaker 2: seys as we should seend big bird up. And I

1870
01:26:34,133 --> 01:26:39,133
Speaker 2: know that's a joke text, but you know the when

1871
01:26:39,253 --> 01:26:42,732
Speaker 2: the Challenger blew up in nineteen eighty six, Yes, and

1872
01:26:42,812 --> 01:26:47,733
Speaker 2: they had the teacher on board for I rememberdy Christa mcayliffe.

1873
01:26:47,893 --> 01:26:50,572
Speaker 2: Was it We're cauliff, Yeah, something like that teacher that

1874
01:26:50,652 --> 01:26:52,412
Speaker 2: blew up. So they wanted to put a teacher on

1875
01:26:52,492 --> 01:26:56,293
Speaker 2: the on the Challenger to show that that shuttle's becoming

1876
01:26:56,492 --> 01:26:57,972
Speaker 2: routine and they're going to be able to space a lot.

1877
01:26:58,013 --> 01:27:00,013
Speaker 2: There was an absolute lie. Yeah, the shuttles were so

1878
01:27:00,093 --> 01:27:02,093
Speaker 2: complicated and it should only have had asternoids on it.

1879
01:27:02,492 --> 01:27:04,812
Speaker 2: But they were going to put Big Bird on that

1880
01:27:05,093 --> 01:27:07,293
Speaker 2: on that on the Challenger, right, So that would have

1881
01:27:07,333 --> 01:27:09,932
Speaker 2: been someone in a Big Bird outfit on there because

1882
01:27:10,452 --> 01:27:12,532
Speaker 2: they thought it would be They needed publicity, and they

1883
01:27:12,532 --> 01:27:15,053
Speaker 2: thought Big Bird teaching a lesson on a on the

1884
01:27:15,093 --> 01:27:17,092
Speaker 2: Space Shadow would be incredible. So big Bird in space

1885
01:27:17,253 --> 01:27:19,572
Speaker 2: imagine that. Imagine if Big Bird had blown up all

1886
01:27:19,652 --> 01:27:22,093
Speaker 2: over Florida. Oh, I mean it was bad enough having

1887
01:27:22,133 --> 01:27:25,012
Speaker 2: a teacher exploding everywhere in nine ennety six.

1888
01:27:25,412 --> 01:27:28,772
Speaker 3: The generational trauma of Big Birds going up with the

1889
01:27:28,812 --> 01:27:30,572
Speaker 3: rest of the astronports would be horrible.

1890
01:27:30,692 --> 01:27:33,333
Speaker 2: We've killed Big Bird. That would have been That would

1891
01:27:33,333 --> 01:27:33,972
Speaker 2: have been quite something.

1892
01:27:34,612 --> 01:27:39,492
Speaker 3: Iri, Hi, Iri? Are you taking to the Yeah, that's you,

1893
01:27:39,652 --> 01:27:40,532
Speaker 3: my love. What do you reckon?

1894
01:27:42,213 --> 01:27:42,372
Speaker 15: Well?

1895
01:27:42,492 --> 01:27:45,893
Speaker 9: I told the secretary, I see it.

1896
01:27:46,772 --> 01:27:49,892
Speaker 10: I think that if people want to vote, they should

1897
01:27:49,893 --> 01:27:54,452
Speaker 10: have seen me and Jack tame right.

1898
01:27:54,572 --> 01:27:56,612
Speaker 2: Okay, tell you what Jack Tayane would do the research.

1899
01:27:57,013 --> 01:27:58,772
Speaker 2: I've seen him. I've been on planes with him, flying

1900
01:27:58,812 --> 01:28:01,333
Speaker 2: down to Wellington to do interviews. And no one does

1901
01:28:01,412 --> 01:28:03,333
Speaker 2: me more research for an interview than Jack Taine.

1902
01:28:03,372 --> 01:28:04,052
Speaker 3: He's a hard worker.

1903
01:28:05,853 --> 01:28:07,413
Speaker 18: Yeah, I watch him other regens.

1904
01:28:07,732 --> 01:28:09,572
Speaker 3: So what we did you bring to the table? Nri

1905
01:28:10,133 --> 01:28:11,652
Speaker 3: were know what Jack? Well, what were you bringing?

1906
01:28:12,532 --> 01:28:17,812
Speaker 10: Well, I'd let them let them have their essay, make

1907
01:28:17,893 --> 01:28:19,973
Speaker 10: them for our cards and listen and listen, you know,

1908
01:28:20,173 --> 01:28:24,412
Speaker 10: and then when they finished having their essay, then I

1909
01:28:24,532 --> 01:28:27,253
Speaker 10: will say, well, I've got a few questions to ask

1910
01:28:27,893 --> 01:28:32,012
Speaker 10: you people, people, and then we'll go from there.

1911
01:28:32,572 --> 01:28:34,492
Speaker 2: All right, thanks for your call. You've thought it through,

1912
01:28:34,652 --> 01:28:36,492
Speaker 2: and thank you to our secretary for putting you through.

1913
01:28:36,853 --> 01:28:37,412
Speaker 2: Appreciate that.

1914
01:28:37,492 --> 01:28:41,812
Speaker 3: Andrew and Iri, thanks very much. You know Mark here

1915
01:28:41,812 --> 01:28:42,133
Speaker 3: are you going?

1916
01:28:42,213 --> 01:28:42,372
Speaker 15: Good?

1917
01:28:42,692 --> 01:28:42,852
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1918
01:28:42,933 --> 01:28:43,812
Speaker 3: Good? What are you egging?

1919
01:28:44,973 --> 01:28:45,133
Speaker 5: Oh?

1920
01:28:45,253 --> 01:28:47,973
Speaker 17: I've probably seen Will Smith and Jeff Goldblan because if

1921
01:28:48,053 --> 01:28:49,532
Speaker 17: they saved us already for alliums.

1922
01:28:49,732 --> 01:28:52,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny that you should mention that again because

1923
01:28:54,173 --> 01:28:57,333
Speaker 2: in that interview Obama said and this, they don't tell

1924
01:28:57,412 --> 01:29:00,333
Speaker 2: presidents about all the stuff, and they keep secrets and

1925
01:29:00,372 --> 01:29:02,333
Speaker 2: presidents and that was the plot. And again, wasn't it

1926
01:29:02,412 --> 01:29:03,172
Speaker 2: not arm again.

1927
01:29:02,973 --> 01:29:04,333
Speaker 3: And Independent Independence Day.

1928
01:29:04,853 --> 01:29:07,692
Speaker 2: They went down to Area fifty one and they found

1929
01:29:07,732 --> 01:29:10,173
Speaker 2: that thing then, and it turned out that they hadn't

1930
01:29:10,213 --> 01:29:12,732
Speaker 2: told the president. And then I think it's Judge Ronhold

1931
01:29:12,812 --> 01:29:15,452
Speaker 2: has the Jeff Goblin's dad has that line, which is

1932
01:29:16,333 --> 01:29:19,013
Speaker 2: which is you wondered why all those hammers cost one

1933
01:29:19,053 --> 01:29:20,892
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. This is where the money was going.

1934
01:29:21,572 --> 01:29:24,613
Speaker 2: They nailed it. They knowed it, Jeff Goblin.

1935
01:29:25,893 --> 01:29:30,093
Speaker 17: Oh, they did, especially with the scars. It's kind of

1936
01:29:30,133 --> 01:29:32,333
Speaker 17: funny because I remember a couple of years ago watching

1937
01:29:32,372 --> 01:29:35,053
Speaker 17: a documentary on you know, on aliens and you know,

1938
01:29:35,213 --> 01:29:36,812
Speaker 17: bits and pieces. I think it might have been on

1939
01:29:36,973 --> 01:29:40,012
Speaker 17: YouTube actually, and you were talking about YouTube last week.

1940
01:29:41,692 --> 01:29:44,293
Speaker 17: They were sort of mentioned that all the movies like

1941
01:29:44,492 --> 01:29:47,732
Speaker 17: Your Terminator with AI and all the other little alien

1942
01:29:47,772 --> 01:29:50,492
Speaker 17: movies and things like that remican when they reckoned with

1943
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Speaker 17: Distress and sort of stated that, you know, they made

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Speaker 17: these movies over time to introduce you to this sort

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Speaker 17: of thing and the possibilities of eventually happening, you know

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Speaker 17: what I mean. That was just it was just sort

1947
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Speaker 17: of something interesting, you know.

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Speaker 2: So because you imagine, you can imagine that that movies

1949
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Speaker 2: like et say, for example, if if the Aliens were

1950
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Speaker 2: going to come down, then they'd put some positive propaganda,

1951
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Speaker 2: but Independence days putting an alien contact in a very

1952
01:30:21,293 --> 01:30:25,372
Speaker 2: bad bad light. But et, yep, we're happy with a

1953
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Speaker 2: bunch of ets to turn up pretty much, aren't we?

1954
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Speaker 2: And maybe the aliens in arrival all.

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Speaker 17: Right, Yeah, sending you guys.

1956
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Speaker 9: I'll the interviewers.

1957
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Speaker 2: I'd be keen. It would be. There'd be a lot

1958
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Speaker 2: of pressure not to screw it up.

1959
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Speaker 3: Yeah, worried about Yeah, I'm.

1960
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Speaker 2: Always on the any kind of double on tendres and

1961
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Speaker 2: I'd be giggling, and I think i'd yeah, I don't know,

1962
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'd take it up it was offered. You'd

1963
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Speaker 2: be ridiculous to turn the opportunity down.

1964
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Speaker 17: We wouldn't want to see any of our politicians, especially

1965
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Speaker 17: from the Green Party or TMP or Labor or probably

1966
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Speaker 17: the National because you know, five minutes with any of

1967
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Speaker 17: them would probably all be vaporized.

1968
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I think there's a lot of truth in Mark.

1969
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Speaker 2: Thank you for your cool Mark. Yeah, I agree. I

1970
01:31:12,732 --> 01:31:14,572
Speaker 2: don't think you want to see any politicians up because

1971
01:31:14,612 --> 01:31:16,452
Speaker 2: they'd be looking what can we get out of us? Yeah,

1972
01:31:16,772 --> 01:31:19,173
Speaker 2: as opposed to what's best for all of us cross party.

1973
01:31:20,013 --> 01:31:22,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighties and

1974
01:31:22,572 --> 01:31:24,293
Speaker 3: to call a couple of tips coming through on nine two,

1975
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Speaker 3: nine to two.

1976
01:31:25,013 --> 01:31:26,933
Speaker 2: Just a thought, guys, maybe let Winston Peters speak to

1977
01:31:26,933 --> 01:31:28,892
Speaker 2: the aliens. He can tell them that we don't want

1978
01:31:28,933 --> 01:31:31,732
Speaker 2: illegal aliens in New Zealand and we're not into immigration here.

1979
01:31:32,093 --> 01:31:32,372
Speaker 3: Pers.

1980
01:31:32,492 --> 01:31:36,052
Speaker 2: I've seen something and I believe they come here. Okay, Trish,

1981
01:31:36,053 --> 01:31:37,132
Speaker 2: you've seen something cryptic.

1982
01:31:37,853 --> 01:31:39,972
Speaker 3: Tell us more. We know we need more information.

1983
01:31:40,732 --> 01:31:41,333
Speaker 4: What have you seen?

1984
01:31:41,452 --> 01:31:44,612
Speaker 3: Where is this you? If the are UFO right, got

1985
01:31:44,652 --> 01:31:45,732
Speaker 3: the headlines coming up.

1986
01:31:45,933 --> 01:31:47,893
Speaker 2: You've got to be You've got to be careful what

1987
01:31:48,053 --> 01:31:50,052
Speaker 2: people have seen. I think I've told this story before,

1988
01:31:50,133 --> 01:31:52,173
Speaker 2: but my sister rang me from Lockness and then she

1989
01:31:52,333 --> 01:31:56,892
Speaker 2: said to me, I've seen the Locknest monster. I'm not kidding.

1990
01:31:57,013 --> 01:32:00,333
Speaker 2: And then two fighter jets flew over the top. So

1991
01:32:00,372 --> 01:32:02,972
Speaker 2: I've seriously seen this. Wow, And she and I said,

1992
01:32:03,013 --> 01:32:05,652
Speaker 2: you take a picture, and she goes, you're not going

1993
01:32:05,732 --> 01:32:08,612
Speaker 2: to well, Okay, I got to tell you this, Matt.

1994
01:32:08,692 --> 01:32:11,492
Speaker 2: I have taken magic mushrooms, but that is not why

1995
01:32:11,812 --> 01:32:16,213
Speaker 2: I saw Locknest monster. And I was like little sis,

1996
01:32:17,053 --> 01:32:19,412
Speaker 2: you know, hate to break with your credibility about this,

1997
01:32:20,973 --> 01:32:22,692
Speaker 2: I want to score you. I'm not I want to

1998
01:32:22,772 --> 01:32:25,293
Speaker 2: question you, but your credibility around seeing the Locknest monster

1999
01:32:26,133 --> 01:32:28,093
Speaker 2: is diminished greatly by the fact you've told me you've

2000
01:32:28,093 --> 01:32:29,052
Speaker 2: taken magic mushrooms.

2001
01:32:30,253 --> 01:32:33,413
Speaker 3: Oh that's great. It is twenty eight past three headlines

2002
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Speaker 3: coming up.

2003
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2022
01:33:48,173 --> 01:33:50,372
Speaker 3: Thanks you very much, Railian. It's twenty nine to four.

2023
01:33:50,452 --> 01:33:53,372
Speaker 3: So we're talking about a post that's gone viral all

2024
01:33:53,572 --> 01:33:56,933
Speaker 3: over the world. And so question a simple question, but

2025
01:33:56,973 --> 01:33:59,932
Speaker 3: pretty in depth question. If aliens were to visit Earth,

2026
01:33:59,973 --> 01:34:01,852
Speaker 3: who should we send to speak for humanity?

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01:34:01,893 --> 01:34:01,973
Speaker 11: Oh?

2028
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Speaker 3: One hundred and eighteen eighties number.

2029
01:34:03,372 --> 01:34:05,492
Speaker 2: Coo so in telling the votes through the text machine

2030
01:34:05,492 --> 01:34:07,692
Speaker 2: on nine two nine two. This is the current top five.

2031
01:34:08,452 --> 01:34:11,612
Speaker 2: No ladies on here yet, okay, right? Which which is

2032
01:34:11,772 --> 01:34:15,133
Speaker 2: because I thought Amy Adams was excellent when she Met

2033
01:34:15,173 --> 01:34:16,532
Speaker 2: the Aliens and Arrival.

2034
01:34:16,253 --> 01:34:18,133
Speaker 3: Save the World, such a great movie, that one that

2035
01:34:18,253 --> 01:34:18,772
Speaker 3: is phenomenal.

2036
01:34:19,452 --> 01:34:22,253
Speaker 2: So number one at the moment is Donald Trump. David

2037
01:34:22,333 --> 01:34:27,692
Speaker 2: Attenborough at number two. Counu reeves at three. I think

2038
01:34:27,732 --> 01:34:30,452
Speaker 2: it's just because he's just a really decent. It's yeah,

2039
01:34:31,053 --> 01:34:34,452
Speaker 2: Winston Peters at four and Mike Costking at five. Right,

2040
01:34:34,532 --> 01:34:39,012
Speaker 2: hoscars there just holding Marcus lash out of the out

2041
01:34:39,053 --> 01:34:41,772
Speaker 2: of the top five. But this says I'm astonished that

2042
01:34:41,812 --> 01:34:44,532
Speaker 2: focus suggesting Trump is a suit of representative. Here's, without

2043
01:34:44,572 --> 01:34:46,732
Speaker 2: a doubt, a despicable human being on every level. And

2044
01:34:46,812 --> 01:34:48,853
Speaker 2: it scares me that his toadies.

2045
01:34:48,452 --> 01:34:50,212
Speaker 3: Walk amongst us who are as toady's.

2046
01:34:50,293 --> 01:34:51,692
Speaker 2: What are toad like as toadies?

2047
01:34:51,973 --> 01:34:54,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, does that mean like aliens an

2048
01:34:54,572 --> 01:34:56,173
Speaker 3: alien species? Yeah?

2049
01:34:56,372 --> 01:34:58,372
Speaker 2: When this person thinks there's toady is walking amongst us,

2050
01:34:58,452 --> 01:35:02,053
Speaker 2: I think toady's are people that it's a saying to

2051
01:35:02,173 --> 01:35:06,732
Speaker 2: mean people that are just blind followers of someone, right, Okay,

2052
01:35:06,812 --> 01:35:08,652
Speaker 2: it's someone that it's someone that says I think it's

2053
01:35:08,652 --> 01:35:11,692
Speaker 2: one of those terminally online comments, right, you know, like

2054
01:35:12,492 --> 01:35:14,253
Speaker 2: one of those sayings online for people that are on

2055
01:35:14,452 --> 01:35:15,012
Speaker 2: X twenty.

2056
01:35:14,772 --> 01:35:19,372
Speaker 3: Four seven hotel sign Kathy, welcome the show, Hi.

2057
01:35:19,732 --> 01:35:25,572
Speaker 14: Buddy, Listen. The very worst person you could get on

2058
01:35:25,732 --> 01:35:30,652
Speaker 14: this planet to meet aliens would be Donald Trump and

2059
01:35:30,812 --> 01:35:35,692
Speaker 14: Winston Peters and Chris pher Luxen. But I bet the

2060
01:35:36,013 --> 01:35:39,853
Speaker 14: best person in the world would be Davis.

2061
01:35:39,572 --> 01:35:43,932
Speaker 3: Ashenborough a hell of a nice guy, and he's been

2062
01:35:44,173 --> 01:35:46,412
Speaker 3: incredibly successful and beautiful voice.

2063
01:35:46,452 --> 01:35:48,972
Speaker 2: But is again about old Kitty's ninety nine years old.

2064
01:35:49,173 --> 01:35:50,892
Speaker 2: So as long as he didn't have to as long

2065
01:35:50,893 --> 01:35:52,452
Speaker 2: as he didn't have to climb him up a ladder

2066
01:35:52,532 --> 01:35:54,692
Speaker 2: to get onto the space ship, right, we'll call.

2067
01:35:54,692 --> 01:35:58,333
Speaker 14: Him back to sixty years old, okay. And here we

2068
01:35:58,692 --> 01:36:07,093
Speaker 14: have the most remarkable, remarkable people in this whole universe

2069
01:36:07,692 --> 01:36:12,053
Speaker 14: that have come to visit us, and here we are,

2070
01:36:12,452 --> 01:36:17,093
Speaker 14: and they've got big proboscos or god only knows. They

2071
01:36:17,173 --> 01:36:18,253
Speaker 14: can't speak English.

2072
01:36:19,372 --> 01:36:21,932
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if they've managed to make it across

2073
01:36:22,253 --> 01:36:26,012
Speaker 2: the many hundreds of light years to get to Earth,

2074
01:36:26,053 --> 01:36:30,333
Speaker 2: then I imagine they could quickly work out a human

2075
01:36:30,452 --> 01:36:34,572
Speaker 2: language to talk to us in some ways, in some way, Yeah,

2076
01:36:34,772 --> 01:36:39,692
Speaker 2: it will be, could be. Well, what was the tune

2077
01:36:39,772 --> 01:36:42,293
Speaker 2: from from a Close Encounters of the third time?

2078
01:36:46,412 --> 01:36:49,573
Speaker 3: Great movie that was the other one? Yeah?

2079
01:36:49,933 --> 01:36:52,812
Speaker 2: Do you go, Cathy once old David Andburgh with the

2080
01:36:52,893 --> 01:36:55,173
Speaker 2: old ninety nine year old bow legs to climb up

2081
01:36:55,213 --> 01:36:56,492
Speaker 2: the ladder to meet the aliens.

2082
01:36:56,572 --> 01:36:58,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, run a live documentary. Why is it it?

2083
01:36:58,452 --> 01:37:02,532
Speaker 2: Incredible? Human? Credible human? David Aburg you've got to say.

2084
01:37:02,973 --> 01:37:04,973
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty has the number of

2085
01:37:05,013 --> 01:37:07,173
Speaker 3: calls some great texts coming through A ninety two ninety two,

2086
01:37:07,732 --> 01:37:09,692
Speaker 3: So gourney either should be interesting.

2087
01:37:10,532 --> 01:37:13,253
Speaker 2: Well, she's had her run ins with aliens, she certainly has.

2088
01:37:13,532 --> 01:37:16,173
Speaker 2: But it's interesting that no one's really I mean apart

2089
01:37:16,213 --> 01:37:20,532
Speaker 2: from I mean naturally speaking. You know, if you if

2090
01:37:20,532 --> 01:37:26,172
Speaker 2: you watch sci fi, who talks to the aliens?

2091
01:37:26,253 --> 01:37:26,372
Speaker 6: Right?

2092
01:37:26,772 --> 01:37:29,732
Speaker 2: You can imagine it's going to be Jijing Ping or

2093
01:37:30,572 --> 01:37:35,173
Speaker 2: or Donald Trump or Putin? Yeah, or some council of

2094
01:37:35,213 --> 01:37:38,213
Speaker 2: all the world's leaders, right correct? Yeah, or the or

2095
01:37:38,293 --> 01:37:40,532
Speaker 2: the yu in like a meeting of the U In.

2096
01:37:40,853 --> 01:37:41,053
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2097
01:37:41,612 --> 01:37:43,493
Speaker 2: I just can't see it. Pin Conu reeves.

2098
01:37:44,293 --> 01:37:46,213
Speaker 3: He'd be up for it, I'm sure, and like if

2099
01:37:46,253 --> 01:37:47,013
Speaker 3: the world asked him.

2100
01:37:47,133 --> 01:37:49,532
Speaker 2: Winston Peter's had an incredible career in New Zealand, but

2101
01:37:49,812 --> 01:37:52,852
Speaker 2: the world getting together is in Winston Peden Winston Peter's,

2102
01:37:52,853 --> 01:37:54,133
Speaker 2: I don't think so, you.

2103
01:37:54,173 --> 01:37:56,772
Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, let's see one hundred and eighty ten eighties

2104
01:37:56,853 --> 01:37:59,932
Speaker 3: number to call get a Jayden? Yeah?

2105
01:37:59,973 --> 01:38:00,133
Speaker 1: Good?

2106
01:38:00,372 --> 01:38:00,892
Speaker 3: What do you reckon?

2107
01:38:01,772 --> 01:38:03,972
Speaker 22: You know so much on your first day or point there.

2108
01:38:04,013 --> 01:38:05,973
Speaker 22: But I just wanted to sound on the on The

2109
01:38:06,053 --> 01:38:09,933
Speaker 22: evidence point is there's a documentary called our Aged Disclosure.

2110
01:38:10,572 --> 01:38:13,452
Speaker 22: Wasn't promoted very much, but it's on Prime Video twenty

2111
01:38:13,492 --> 01:38:17,092
Speaker 22: six bucks and it's well worth to watch that basically

2112
01:38:17,652 --> 01:38:19,732
Speaker 22: talks about all what you were sort of asking about.

2113
01:38:19,812 --> 01:38:24,893
Speaker 22: It's first hand accounts from the military, pilots, from pavilions,

2114
01:38:24,933 --> 01:38:28,573
Speaker 22: from from all sorts of different people. There's also they've

2115
01:38:28,612 --> 01:38:30,692
Speaker 22: shown where they've sort of had people sit in front

2116
01:38:30,692 --> 01:38:33,173
Speaker 22: of Congress over there and give their take on everything

2117
01:38:33,213 --> 01:38:33,492
Speaker 22: as well.

2118
01:38:33,532 --> 01:38:34,692
Speaker 2: So did you find it convincing?

2119
01:38:36,853 --> 01:38:37,013
Speaker 15: Yeah?

2120
01:38:37,053 --> 01:38:39,492
Speaker 22: I did, Yeah, Yeah, I did. I found it convincing

2121
01:38:39,572 --> 01:38:43,852
Speaker 22: that at least there's something you know, those or where

2122
01:38:43,853 --> 01:38:47,213
Speaker 22: it's come from, but there's definitely something. There's too many people,

2123
01:38:47,532 --> 01:38:50,412
Speaker 22: credible people that have you know, have the same sort

2124
01:38:50,452 --> 01:38:51,213
Speaker 22: of similar stories.

2125
01:38:51,572 --> 01:38:51,812
Speaker 13: Yeah.

2126
01:38:51,893 --> 01:38:56,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's some of that pilot testimony is

2127
01:38:56,333 --> 01:38:59,093
Speaker 2: as you can't watch it without being convinced by it.

2128
01:38:59,372 --> 01:39:03,252
Speaker 2: But for me, it's just like where is the physical evidence?

2129
01:39:04,013 --> 01:39:06,213
Speaker 22: Yeah, I think there's a guy in there that does

2130
01:39:06,333 --> 01:39:10,132
Speaker 22: talk about that that they do have two physical beings.

2131
01:39:10,173 --> 01:39:12,532
Speaker 22: I think was like sort of the big the big

2132
01:39:12,612 --> 01:39:14,333
Speaker 22: drop of the sort at the end type thing. But

2133
01:39:14,452 --> 01:39:17,052
Speaker 22: you're like all those pilots, you know, the top military

2134
01:39:17,133 --> 01:39:18,173
Speaker 22: guys did not know.

2135
01:39:18,452 --> 01:39:21,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they don't have skin in the game. They've

2136
01:39:21,253 --> 01:39:23,093
Speaker 2: got nothing really to gain from it. You've got you've

2137
01:39:23,133 --> 01:39:25,053
Speaker 2: got these sort of grifters that will make up a

2138
01:39:25,173 --> 01:39:26,772
Speaker 2: theory or say they've seen something and they're trying to

2139
01:39:26,812 --> 01:39:29,412
Speaker 2: sell a book. But the amount of these pilots that

2140
01:39:30,133 --> 01:39:32,412
Speaker 2: they have a lot to lose by saying it, because

2141
01:39:32,492 --> 01:39:35,093
Speaker 2: essentially people are going to say they're crazy, so their

2142
01:39:35,173 --> 01:39:39,652
Speaker 2: motivations seem honorable. Would you agree, Jada, that's right.

2143
01:39:39,893 --> 01:39:42,732
Speaker 22: They've got everything to lose, really, you know, said as

2144
01:39:42,732 --> 01:39:44,612
Speaker 22: they put in that category, it's all over.

2145
01:39:45,812 --> 01:39:48,972
Speaker 3: There were kind of two parts for it to me, Jaden,

2146
01:39:49,053 --> 01:39:51,253
Speaker 3: as I did watch the bulk of it, and the

2147
01:39:51,333 --> 01:39:53,333
Speaker 3: first part I thought was a little bit outland, just

2148
01:39:53,412 --> 01:39:55,492
Speaker 3: that there was this guy from the Pentagon and he

2149
01:39:55,612 --> 01:39:59,613
Speaker 3: never really mentioned what his job was, but he said, effectively,

2150
01:39:59,692 --> 01:40:01,452
Speaker 3: there was this eighty year cover up. It was called

2151
01:40:01,492 --> 01:40:04,812
Speaker 3: the Legacy Project, and that Legacy project was to reverse

2152
01:40:05,013 --> 01:40:07,732
Speaker 3: engineer alien technology and the government knows about it and

2153
01:40:07,812 --> 01:40:09,572
Speaker 3: he's been a part out of it. Then I thought that,

2154
01:40:09,812 --> 01:40:12,133
Speaker 3: I mean, that's unless you've got the evidence, that's questionable.

2155
01:40:12,213 --> 01:40:14,452
Speaker 3: But as you say, the UAP stuff, because they had

2156
01:40:14,492 --> 01:40:16,932
Speaker 3: the likes of Marco Rubio, they had a whole bunch

2157
01:40:17,053 --> 01:40:20,772
Speaker 3: of yeah, current officials within the US government to say,

2158
01:40:21,253 --> 01:40:23,972
Speaker 3: the U A P video and the footage, we can't

2159
01:40:24,013 --> 01:40:27,333
Speaker 3: explain it. We don't know what's going on. There's something there.

2160
01:40:29,093 --> 01:40:31,412
Speaker 22: To the argument too, that when people say, you know, well,

2161
01:40:31,452 --> 01:40:34,413
Speaker 22: why would they just tell us, well, you know, it's technology,

2162
01:40:34,492 --> 01:40:36,093
Speaker 22: it's it's what they're going to use for weapons. And

2163
01:40:36,253 --> 01:40:38,653
Speaker 22: you know that's pretty this pretty obvious answer.

2164
01:40:38,372 --> 01:40:38,572
Speaker 14: You know.

2165
01:40:40,572 --> 01:40:44,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, so how would you send to meet them

2166
01:40:44,532 --> 01:40:46,812
Speaker 2: if they if they decide to organize a meeting and

2167
01:40:47,253 --> 01:40:50,892
Speaker 2: and and instead of just instead of just buzzing pilots.

2168
01:40:51,133 --> 01:40:53,732
Speaker 22: And I'll I'll be honest with you, I'm a big

2169
01:40:53,772 --> 01:40:56,492
Speaker 22: fan of Donald Trump, so I wagon.

2170
01:40:56,572 --> 01:41:00,213
Speaker 2: But what would you would you would you support like

2171
01:41:00,293 --> 01:41:03,532
Speaker 2: some kind of cross party thing? Five will get five

2172
01:41:03,612 --> 01:41:06,253
Speaker 2: people together, get different leaders from around the world.

2173
01:41:07,013 --> 01:41:12,612
Speaker 3: Put it all right, So we got Donald Trump? Jaden, Jaden,

2174
01:41:12,652 --> 01:41:15,612
Speaker 3: you're in their mate, Maybe Putin you could deal with Putin?

2175
01:41:16,532 --> 01:41:19,093
Speaker 3: Who else? Have we got? Angela mercle She's out of

2176
01:41:19,133 --> 01:41:20,452
Speaker 3: the game now, but she was all right back in

2177
01:41:20,452 --> 01:41:20,692
Speaker 3: the day.

2178
01:41:20,692 --> 01:41:23,052
Speaker 22: Wouldn't she yes, we not des send her anyway.

2179
01:41:23,133 --> 01:41:24,452
Speaker 15: Maybe David Seymo would.

2180
01:41:24,253 --> 01:41:29,732
Speaker 2: Be all right, Okay, more he Jijongping and the meeting party.

2181
01:41:30,492 --> 01:41:32,213
Speaker 22: Yeah yeah, might as well get one from each color

2182
01:41:32,372 --> 01:41:32,652
Speaker 22: the world.

2183
01:41:33,973 --> 01:41:35,492
Speaker 2: Thanks for you, Cal Jaden, well played.

2184
01:41:35,572 --> 01:41:37,692
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is another cool.

2185
01:41:37,732 --> 01:41:39,812
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the point here. It is estimated

2186
01:41:39,812 --> 01:41:41,732
Speaker 2: that there are between one hundred and four hundred billion

2187
01:41:41,772 --> 01:41:43,772
Speaker 2: stars in the milky We are loan trillions of planets.

2188
01:41:43,772 --> 01:41:46,052
Speaker 2: It's also most certain that there is intelligent life somewhere

2189
01:41:46,093 --> 01:41:50,213
Speaker 2: out there. I would send the astrophysicist Brian Cox. Yeah,

2190
01:41:50,213 --> 01:41:52,812
Speaker 2: he's great, I met him once. But the thing is,

2191
01:41:53,933 --> 01:41:57,133
Speaker 2: it's a matter of time and space. So it took

2192
01:41:57,612 --> 01:42:00,692
Speaker 2: about between three point eight billion and about four point

2193
01:42:00,812 --> 01:42:03,492
Speaker 2: two billion years for life to appear on Earth, right, yes,

2194
01:42:04,013 --> 01:42:07,093
Speaker 2: and we've only had radio signals for the last say,

2195
01:42:07,412 --> 01:42:10,972
Speaker 2: let's be generous, say two hundred years. So you need

2196
01:42:11,333 --> 01:42:15,333
Speaker 2: these people to exist, these other aliens, within the time

2197
01:42:15,412 --> 01:42:18,972
Speaker 2: frame that we exist, and within close enough to get

2198
01:42:19,013 --> 01:42:21,012
Speaker 2: here in the time we're here. This is a tiny

2199
01:42:21,372 --> 01:42:24,852
Speaker 2: you know, you could have had an incredibly powerful alien

2200
01:42:24,893 --> 01:42:30,213
Speaker 2: civilization that existed a thousand years ago and we wouldn't

2201
01:42:30,213 --> 01:42:32,012
Speaker 2: have They wouldn't have had anything. We wouldn't been seeing

2202
01:42:32,093 --> 01:42:33,852
Speaker 2: any signals that they could see to by the coming

2203
01:42:33,893 --> 01:42:36,333
Speaker 2: here as the window. Yeah, so the window was so

2204
01:42:37,133 --> 01:42:40,173
Speaker 2: space is so vast and the window of time when

2205
01:42:40,293 --> 01:42:44,213
Speaker 2: we are interesting is so small that that's that's the

2206
01:42:44,253 --> 01:42:46,612
Speaker 2: problem I have. And you know, if you're going to

2207
01:42:46,652 --> 01:42:49,452
Speaker 2: travel one hundred light years from you know, the nearest

2208
01:42:49,492 --> 01:42:52,492
Speaker 2: star is what Alphison's suri, and we know we can't

2209
01:42:52,532 --> 01:42:53,612
Speaker 2: detect any life there.

2210
01:42:54,133 --> 01:42:55,612
Speaker 3: You've got to make sure it's worth while for them.

2211
01:42:55,692 --> 01:42:57,932
Speaker 2: But then again, you know, who knows If people can

2212
01:42:58,013 --> 01:43:00,333
Speaker 2: talk out can work out space and time to the

2213
01:43:00,372 --> 01:43:04,053
Speaker 2: point where they would scan through time and space to

2214
01:43:04,173 --> 01:43:06,652
Speaker 2: find when there is interesting civilizations to visit that I mean,

2215
01:43:06,893 --> 01:43:09,372
Speaker 2: they would have technology that we don't yeh even understand.

2216
01:43:09,492 --> 01:43:12,732
Speaker 2: But yeah, I thought, we think that life seems likely,

2217
01:43:12,812 --> 01:43:15,093
Speaker 2: that there's life and on other planets, but we've got

2218
01:43:15,133 --> 01:43:16,973
Speaker 2: to remember how long it took for life to start here.

2219
01:43:17,133 --> 01:43:19,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, fascinating topic. I wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty

2220
01:43:19,893 --> 01:43:21,812
Speaker 3: is a number to call love to hear from you.

2221
01:43:22,532 --> 01:43:24,213
Speaker 3: If we had to send one person to speak for

2222
01:43:24,293 --> 01:43:27,173
Speaker 3: humanity when the aliens visit, who would that be. It

2223
01:43:27,412 --> 01:43:30,292
Speaker 3: is nineteen to four, Matt.

2224
01:43:30,093 --> 01:43:33,692
Speaker 1: Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons taking your calls on oh,

2225
01:43:33,732 --> 01:43:36,372
Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty with Skoda, can you

2226
01:43:36,492 --> 01:43:37,452
Speaker 1: crack the God please?

2227
01:43:37,532 --> 01:43:39,772
Speaker 4: Scoda codes every day news dogs.

2228
01:43:39,812 --> 01:43:42,772
Speaker 3: That'd be very good afternoons you it is sixteen to four.

2229
01:43:42,933 --> 01:43:44,492
Speaker 3: So if we had to send one person to speak

2230
01:43:44,492 --> 01:43:46,893
Speaker 3: for humanity if aliens visit, who would that be? I

2231
01:43:46,973 --> 01:43:48,492
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

2232
01:43:48,732 --> 01:43:51,293
Speaker 2: I'd send Stephen Frye. Yeah, he's got a good knowledge

2233
01:43:51,772 --> 01:43:56,132
Speaker 2: of things. Hey man, Tyler, easy answer, Send Mike Costkin

2234
01:43:56,213 --> 01:43:57,532
Speaker 2: to talk to them. Is a lot, Yeah, a lot

2235
01:43:57,572 --> 01:43:59,013
Speaker 2: of people saying they seem to hear the doup of

2236
01:43:59,093 --> 01:44:01,492
Speaker 2: cl and she'd come in strong. Her first question like

2237
01:44:01,612 --> 01:44:03,372
Speaker 2: cut through the bs, why are you here? Are you

2238
01:44:03,412 --> 01:44:03,933
Speaker 2: gonna eat us?

2239
01:44:04,372 --> 01:44:07,333
Speaker 3: Yeap, she'd come in hot. Maybe that's what's needed with something.

2240
01:44:07,732 --> 01:44:10,812
Speaker 2: Sends our fat person for them to eat. That's a

2241
01:44:10,893 --> 01:44:12,132
Speaker 2: weird I mean.

2242
01:44:12,173 --> 01:44:14,893
Speaker 3: Is that like a sacrifice, a sacrifice to the aliens

2243
01:44:14,933 --> 01:44:16,213
Speaker 3: to hopefully get on their good side?

2244
01:44:16,253 --> 01:44:17,612
Speaker 2: And who is their fattest person?

2245
01:44:17,853 --> 01:44:20,492
Speaker 3: Yeah? We've also got a follow of question, is the

2246
01:44:20,652 --> 01:44:24,013
Speaker 3: evidence around alien life? And then there's been a lot

2247
01:44:24,093 --> 01:44:28,173
Speaker 3: made about these UAPs in the last five years. So

2248
01:44:28,333 --> 01:44:30,133
Speaker 3: can you hear from you? What evidence do you need

2249
01:44:30,213 --> 01:44:31,732
Speaker 3: to see or what evidence do you think is out

2250
01:44:31,772 --> 01:44:35,173
Speaker 3: there to prove that there is intelligent alien life somewhere

2251
01:44:35,213 --> 01:44:35,532
Speaker 3: out there?

2252
01:44:35,692 --> 01:44:37,173
Speaker 2: So I think this is one current theory is that

2253
01:44:37,213 --> 01:44:39,612
Speaker 2: they're in our oceans and have been for years. I

2254
01:44:39,692 --> 01:44:41,932
Speaker 2: think I think if there is any sort of alien content,

2255
01:44:42,013 --> 01:44:44,932
Speaker 2: it might be beyond our ability to communicate with them

2256
01:44:45,053 --> 01:44:48,892
Speaker 2: or even recognize that they're here potentially speak about the oceans.

2257
01:44:48,933 --> 01:44:51,452
Speaker 2: We can't even talk to Wales, So what chance have

2258
01:44:51,532 --> 01:44:53,612
Speaker 2: we being able to get into the side the head

2259
01:44:53,772 --> 01:44:55,532
Speaker 2: of aliens?

2260
01:44:55,652 --> 01:44:58,412
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think the frame of reference in terms of

2261
01:44:58,532 --> 01:45:02,333
Speaker 3: what if any aliens visit us is just so far

2262
01:45:02,452 --> 01:45:04,612
Speaker 3: removed from how we think. But can you hear from you?

2263
01:45:04,692 --> 01:45:04,772
Speaker 16: Oh?

2264
01:45:04,812 --> 01:45:07,532
Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

2265
01:45:07,772 --> 01:45:10,013
Speaker 3: Plenty of te coming through on nine two nine two,

2266
01:45:10,293 --> 01:45:11,293
Speaker 3: Prince William.

2267
01:45:11,213 --> 01:45:14,253
Speaker 2: Jerry Brownley, isn't our fattest the fattest person on Earth? Texter?

2268
01:45:14,692 --> 01:45:14,892
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2269
01:45:14,973 --> 01:45:17,492
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, you around a lot fatter people

2270
01:45:17,532 --> 01:45:18,333
Speaker 2: than Jerry brown.

2271
01:45:18,253 --> 01:45:21,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, poor old Jerry. Oh one hundred eighty teen eighty

2272
01:45:21,452 --> 01:45:23,372
Speaker 3: is the number to call Janine, How are you.

2273
01:45:25,093 --> 01:45:26,612
Speaker 9: Hi? Who am I talking to?

2274
01:45:27,772 --> 01:45:30,213
Speaker 2: Did you ring Oway one hundred eighteen eighty You're talking

2275
01:45:30,333 --> 01:45:32,052
Speaker 2: to Matt and Tyler.

2276
01:45:32,973 --> 01:45:36,093
Speaker 9: Oh fantastic. You're too amazing. We listen to you every day.

2277
01:45:36,333 --> 01:45:41,052
Speaker 9: You are like I call you liked Simon and James.

2278
01:45:41,372 --> 01:45:45,493
Speaker 9: You've got the romance and you suit each other fabulously

2279
01:45:45,532 --> 01:45:50,293
Speaker 9: because you polarize each other. And congratulations to Tyler. I

2280
01:45:50,452 --> 01:45:51,852
Speaker 9: talked to you a couple of years ago and told

2281
01:45:51,893 --> 01:45:54,213
Speaker 9: you you're going to get your own show, if you remember, Tyler,

2282
01:45:54,772 --> 01:45:57,133
Speaker 9: and I'm so glad that you and Matt have got it.

2283
01:45:57,213 --> 01:45:57,973
Speaker 9: You're fantastic.

2284
01:45:58,173 --> 01:46:02,092
Speaker 2: He still might get his own show. There's always, there's always.

2285
01:46:02,372 --> 01:46:03,892
Speaker 2: I'm always getting fired here.

2286
01:46:05,333 --> 01:46:07,133
Speaker 9: I like I like you both to get it, though,

2287
01:46:07,133 --> 01:46:09,492
Speaker 9: because you kind of said each other off and you

2288
01:46:09,612 --> 01:46:13,213
Speaker 9: make people think you're amazing. But I'm ringing about. I'm

2289
01:46:13,333 --> 01:46:17,093
Speaker 9: ringing about a book called Eminent, written by Louis Elevando,

2290
01:46:17,692 --> 01:46:21,372
Speaker 9: and he is the former head of the Department of

2291
01:46:21,492 --> 01:46:27,933
Speaker 9: Defense Advance Aerospace Threat Identification Program, and the book my

2292
01:46:28,173 --> 01:46:30,452
Speaker 9: friend gave to me for Christmas because he knows I've

2293
01:46:30,492 --> 01:46:33,492
Speaker 9: seen UFOs all my life and USOS underwater ones and

2294
01:46:33,572 --> 01:46:36,893
Speaker 9: so on. And we've even possibly have seen type of

2295
01:46:36,973 --> 01:46:39,772
Speaker 9: aliens in the Gilbert and Ellas Islands in the American base.

2296
01:46:40,333 --> 01:46:43,012
Speaker 9: And when my dad was in British government and women Fuji,

2297
01:46:43,492 --> 01:46:46,213
Speaker 9: we saw a mass of them in certain places there.

2298
01:46:46,572 --> 01:46:49,293
Speaker 9: I've seen them here in New Zealand, and I've met

2299
01:46:49,492 --> 01:46:54,612
Speaker 9: people like edgar Mitchell, and he's got an institute called

2300
01:46:54,853 --> 01:46:58,892
Speaker 9: the Institute of Pnoetic Science. They were sworn to secrecy

2301
01:46:59,133 --> 01:47:02,093
Speaker 9: and allowed to talk about what they've seen or experienced.

2302
01:47:02,732 --> 01:47:05,053
Speaker 9: I went to a meeting about twenty years ago by

2303
01:47:05,173 --> 01:47:10,932
Speaker 9: a Red Indian chief and he supposedly they looked after

2304
01:47:11,173 --> 01:47:14,772
Speaker 9: an alien gray for twenty years that came from the

2305
01:47:14,853 --> 01:47:18,412
Speaker 9: Rodswell crash. And there was a nurse who also nursed

2306
01:47:18,452 --> 01:47:20,612
Speaker 9: some of the people from the Roswell crash who wrote

2307
01:47:20,612 --> 01:47:24,732
Speaker 9: a book as well about this. So there are people

2308
01:47:24,933 --> 01:47:27,652
Speaker 9: out there. And even Showlie mc crane did a thing

2309
01:47:27,772 --> 01:47:30,372
Speaker 9: called out on the Limb, and she reckoned she saw

2310
01:47:30,452 --> 01:47:32,852
Speaker 9: them in South America when she was up. I think

2311
01:47:32,893 --> 01:47:35,772
Speaker 9: in the Andes somewhere. And I've met a lot of

2312
01:47:35,933 --> 01:47:39,492
Speaker 9: people who have supposedly seen them in places like the

2313
01:47:39,572 --> 01:47:41,053
Speaker 9: Industalley and so on.

2314
01:47:41,293 --> 01:47:41,492
Speaker 13: Like that.

2315
01:47:42,293 --> 01:47:46,012
Speaker 9: And so, but if I was going to send anyone

2316
01:47:46,652 --> 01:47:49,452
Speaker 9: to space for to meet an alien or to work

2317
01:47:49,492 --> 01:47:50,692
Speaker 9: with them, be Peter Beck.

2318
01:47:52,572 --> 01:47:53,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that.

2319
01:47:53,492 --> 01:47:57,772
Speaker 16: Yeah, good choice, because he's just there's a book out

2320
01:47:57,812 --> 01:48:01,372
Speaker 16: about his life that I've just given my friend for

2321
01:48:01,492 --> 01:48:04,093
Speaker 16: his birthday and we've been reading it, and he knew

2322
01:48:04,213 --> 01:48:06,093
Speaker 16: right from a young age that he was going to

2323
01:48:06,093 --> 01:48:06,972
Speaker 16: be involved with space.

2324
01:48:08,692 --> 01:48:14,133
Speaker 2: Would absolutely grill them on propulsion, wouldn't he would?

2325
01:48:16,893 --> 01:48:20,612
Speaker 9: Yeah, not only that, but he is already doing trips

2326
01:48:20,652 --> 01:48:24,133
Speaker 9: to Mars Okay and to Venus and so on. And

2327
01:48:24,293 --> 01:48:29,852
Speaker 9: spiritual people believe that people like Jesus, the Rasta, Buddha, Krishna,

2328
01:48:30,412 --> 01:48:34,852
Speaker 9: they came through Mars Venus in the temples. They're just

2329
01:48:35,173 --> 01:48:38,132
Speaker 9: spiritualized to come here to do their work for humanity.

2330
01:48:38,652 --> 01:48:41,133
Speaker 9: And I've just had a text from a friend telling

2331
01:48:41,213 --> 01:48:44,852
Speaker 9: me that soon the aliens will make themselves visible, but

2332
01:48:45,213 --> 01:48:47,253
Speaker 9: they are going to do it bit by bit because

2333
01:48:47,333 --> 01:48:51,492
Speaker 9: some don't look like us. They've got different features, different coloring,

2334
01:48:51,893 --> 01:48:54,812
Speaker 9: and it would make people frightened. So they're just going

2335
01:48:54,853 --> 01:48:56,093
Speaker 9: to do it a bit at a time.

2336
01:48:56,692 --> 01:48:58,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, go on, and thank of you called Jane

2337
01:48:58,973 --> 01:49:01,852
Speaker 3: Deneen interesting about the part of the the alien that

2338
01:49:01,973 --> 01:49:05,293
Speaker 3: lived with the tribe for twenty years. It's like that

2339
01:49:05,893 --> 01:49:08,253
Speaker 3: that Paul movie with Seth Rogan where he kind of

2340
01:49:08,412 --> 01:49:11,293
Speaker 3: skates and then and then as a buddy buddy romance

2341
01:49:11,333 --> 01:49:14,092
Speaker 3: with Simon Peg and Nick Watts his name Nick Frost.

2342
01:49:14,333 --> 01:49:16,173
Speaker 2: Can someone just niff a finger off one of these

2343
01:49:16,213 --> 01:49:17,812
Speaker 2: grays and bring it out there so we've got some

2344
01:49:17,933 --> 01:49:20,812
Speaker 2: DNA evidence that's unattainable from Earth, so we know, just

2345
01:49:20,853 --> 01:49:22,492
Speaker 2: a little finger. Because all these people that seem to

2346
01:49:22,572 --> 01:49:26,573
Speaker 2: hang out with aliens, they see, you know, spaceship floatings

2347
01:49:26,652 --> 01:49:30,412
Speaker 2: with grave anti grab devices, but they never seem to

2348
01:49:30,492 --> 01:49:32,013
Speaker 2: grab a piece of tech on the way out the

2349
01:49:32,053 --> 01:49:37,573
Speaker 2: door or take a picture that's un that's completely unfakable.

2350
01:49:38,013 --> 01:49:40,972
Speaker 2: They's just just just grab a little bit of solid evidence.

2351
01:49:40,973 --> 01:49:42,852
Speaker 2: Someone's pushing back on my thing that we can't communicate

2352
01:49:42,893 --> 01:49:45,452
Speaker 2: with aliens, Matt. The difference to and because I said, like,

2353
01:49:45,492 --> 01:49:47,892
Speaker 2: we can't even commute with Wales, how could we communicate

2354
01:49:47,933 --> 01:49:50,412
Speaker 2: with with aliens? Matt. The difference to Wales is that

2355
01:49:50,492 --> 01:49:52,532
Speaker 2: we can understand the principles of the universe, such as

2356
01:49:52,572 --> 01:49:54,892
Speaker 2: maths and physics. That is something we can communicate without

2357
01:49:54,893 --> 01:50:00,052
Speaker 2: a specific language. It's good point Wales rubbish at maths, good.

2358
01:49:59,973 --> 01:50:02,572
Speaker 3: Point, right back, very shortly taking your calls O eight

2359
01:50:02,572 --> 01:50:05,133
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty, ten eighty. It is ten to four.

2360
01:50:06,093 --> 01:50:09,452
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2361
01:50:09,812 --> 01:50:10,732
Speaker 1: everything in between.

2362
01:50:10,973 --> 01:50:13,892
Speaker 4: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

2363
01:50:13,933 --> 01:50:14,213
Speaker 15: They'd be.

2364
01:50:15,933 --> 01:50:18,293
Speaker 3: News talks there be. It is seven to four. So

2365
01:50:18,572 --> 01:50:21,293
Speaker 3: viral question that's going everywhere at the moment is who

2366
01:50:21,372 --> 01:50:23,972
Speaker 3: would you see him to speak for humanity if aliens

2367
01:50:24,013 --> 01:50:26,372
Speaker 3: do visit US one hundred and eighty ten eighty, Chris,

2368
01:50:26,612 --> 01:50:27,013
Speaker 3: how are you.

2369
01:50:28,492 --> 01:50:28,572
Speaker 20: They?

2370
01:50:28,692 --> 01:50:28,932
Speaker 16: Mate?

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Speaker 13: Hey, boys, I've got something coming from left field here.

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Speaker 3: So Patrick Stewart from Start Star Trek, the Captain Jean

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Speaker 3: Luke Picard.

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Speaker 6: So let's be honest.

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Speaker 18: If you watched what he did there on the show, he.

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Speaker 3: Was quite a diplomat, Yes, certainly, was beautiful voice and

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01:50:55,772 --> 01:50:59,973
Speaker 3: also as Professor Xavier in The X Men, fantastic.

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01:51:00,333 --> 01:51:00,572
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:51:01,253 --> 01:51:03,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great I mean, hell of a presence

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01:51:03,213 --> 01:51:05,093
Speaker 3: he's got as well. I think he's quite calming. He's

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01:51:05,213 --> 01:51:08,053
Speaker 3: very authoritative. He knows his stuff because he's been in

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01:51:08,093 --> 01:51:10,492
Speaker 3: Star Trek. I mean he sounds like the perfect choice.

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01:51:12,173 --> 01:51:16,372
Speaker 13: Yeah, absolutely, conversation in right there.

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01:51:17,133 --> 01:51:17,572
Speaker 9: Patrick.

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01:51:17,812 --> 01:51:20,293
Speaker 3: All right, hopefully hopefully they visit soon because you're getting

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01:51:20,293 --> 01:51:21,972
Speaker 3: pretty old now at eighty five years old. But thank

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Speaker 3: you very much, Chris.

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01:51:23,812 --> 01:51:26,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you've seen someone that's acted through the situations.

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01:51:26,973 --> 01:51:29,053
Speaker 2: You know, he's faced a lot of rubber monsters and

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01:51:29,133 --> 01:51:32,013
Speaker 2: a lot of CGIA challenges, so maybe he wouldn't be

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01:51:32,053 --> 01:51:33,172
Speaker 2: overawed by the situation.

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01:51:33,452 --> 01:51:35,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, got the experience. I feel like we didn't.

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01:51:35,532 --> 01:51:39,053
Speaker 2: Really get to the topic. It'd be interesting when it

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01:51:39,133 --> 01:51:41,412
Speaker 2: came up. I mentioned it might be it depends who they.

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01:51:41,692 --> 01:51:43,732
Speaker 2: You know, in movies, they always seem to land in

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01:51:43,853 --> 01:51:46,372
Speaker 2: the United States of America, but you never know, they

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01:51:46,492 --> 01:51:49,612
Speaker 2: might hit China or wherever even here. But some kind

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01:51:49,652 --> 01:51:52,012
Speaker 2: of delegation. We've seen some terrible committee.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's like the people we got together to decide on

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01:51:54,492 --> 01:51:56,732
Speaker 2: the new flag, yep, and they just came up with

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01:51:56,812 --> 01:51:58,732
Speaker 2: four flags that no one in their right mind would

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01:51:58,732 --> 01:52:01,812
Speaker 2: ever want, not those people. So that like, if we

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01:52:02,013 --> 01:52:04,812
Speaker 2: got together and decided to who descend it would be,

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01:52:05,093 --> 01:52:07,892
Speaker 2: it would be the worst. Yeah, yeah, you know absolutely, Yeah.

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01:52:08,013 --> 01:52:10,692
Speaker 2: A lot of votes at the end for Keanu Reeves.

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01:52:10,732 --> 01:52:14,093
Speaker 2: But as Brian Cox said, the chances of extraterrestrial civilization

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01:52:14,253 --> 01:52:16,372
Speaker 2: bumping into each other when the universe is a billion

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01:52:16,452 --> 01:52:19,452
Speaker 2: light years across and has been around for thirteen billion years,

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01:52:20,133 --> 01:52:22,772
Speaker 2: that's just not in our neighborhood. Yeah, I mean it

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01:52:23,893 --> 01:52:26,333
Speaker 2: is a problem, isn't it. It is very big and

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01:52:26,372 --> 01:52:27,492
Speaker 2: we haven't been around very long.

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01:52:27,853 --> 01:52:30,933
Speaker 3: Very smart man, Brian Cox. Right, great discussion. Thank you

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01:52:31,053 --> 01:52:33,572
Speaker 3: to everyone who text and phoned on that one. Boy,

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01:52:33,652 --> 01:52:35,132
Speaker 3: oh boy, did we get some texts.

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01:52:35,372 --> 01:52:38,093
Speaker 2: The problem is this texta says with the post shop

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01:52:38,173 --> 01:52:41,012
Speaker 2: closure is how we expected to easily communicate with aliens.

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01:52:41,013 --> 01:52:41,612
Speaker 2: It's a good point.

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01:52:41,692 --> 01:52:42,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, good point.

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01:52:42,492 --> 01:52:43,732
Speaker 2: You want to send the letter and you just can't

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01:52:43,732 --> 01:52:44,612
Speaker 2: find anywhere to post it.

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01:52:45,652 --> 01:52:46,253
Speaker 3: Great text.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: That brings us the end of another edition of Matt

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01:52:49,213 --> 01:52:51,732
Speaker 2: and Tyler Afternoons on news Talk z'd be. We'll be

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01:52:51,812 --> 01:52:56,412
Speaker 2: back again live tomorrow from twelve o'clock, so tune in

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Speaker 2: if you want to join the conversation. The amazing hithertoo.

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01:53:00,652 --> 01:53:02,052
Speaker 2: P for Cee Allen, who got a lot of votes

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01:53:02,572 --> 01:53:07,812
Speaker 2: for meeting the Aliens for her straight, no nonsense approached interviews, yep,

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01:53:07,973 --> 01:53:10,213
Speaker 2: not a bit bit. She is up next on the show,

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01:53:10,253 --> 01:53:11,932
Speaker 2: but right now, Tyler, why would I be playing the song?

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01:53:12,372 --> 01:53:14,293
Speaker 3: I freaking love this song, but I don't I don't

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01:53:14,333 --> 01:53:17,293
Speaker 3: actually know what it's called, and I don't know why

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01:53:17,372 --> 01:53:18,732
Speaker 3: you're playing it. But it's a great song.

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01:53:19,013 --> 01:53:20,933
Speaker 2: Well if we had the chorus and it says I

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01:53:20,973 --> 01:53:23,732
Speaker 2: wish if I knew now what I knew when I

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01:53:23,853 --> 01:53:29,852
Speaker 2: was younger. No, anyway, it was around what you would

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01:53:29,893 --> 01:53:32,133
Speaker 2: tell young people, which was their first chat in the

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01:53:32,253 --> 01:53:33,013
Speaker 2: first hour of the show.

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01:53:33,173 --> 01:53:35,173
Speaker 3: Great basis, great show, great tune.

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01:53:36,093 --> 01:53:38,372
Speaker 2: All right, you seem busy, Will let you go, give

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01:53:38,372 --> 01:53:39,173
Speaker 2: my taste to keep from us?

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01:53:39,213 --> 01:53:42,452
Speaker 4: All right, bye bye, Love you and Tyler Adams.

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01:53:52,013 --> 01:53:54,572
Speaker 1: For more from News Talk said B listen live on

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01:53:54,692 --> 01:53:57,652
Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever

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