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Speaker 2: It's quite a quiet which as we head in the
Speaker 2: World Hit Championship territory, Sri Lanka displayed a challenge the
Speaker 2: All Black Space on their upcoming tour. Why is Russia
Speaker 2: Khan not in the Afghanistan squad? Would it be one
Speaker 2: of your first choice selections? England spread their wings with
Speaker 2: injury replacements for the Lord's death and with the White
Speaker 2: Ferns squad for the Women's World teen twenty due to
Speaker 2: be named in a Fortnite Do they face a huge challenge?
Speaker 2: And finally, a special part of the program will be
Speaker 2: a look back at some cricket humor and we'll play
Speaker 2: an old speech. We don't have much humor in the
Speaker 2: game anymore, Jerry. There's been a lot of good stories
Speaker 2: about cricket, but you know the humor seems to have
Speaker 2: gone out. It's it's so serious at times now, isn't it.
Speaker 3: It's all the money. Do you think what? You think
Speaker 3: there'd be more humor, but there's not.
Speaker 2: Is there?
Speaker 3: These guys should be happy, but we don't.
Speaker 2: See the characters like like Fred Truman was like he
Speaker 2: in both.
Speaker 3: Of my missing don't they know who's who's the speaker?
Speaker 3: You've got?
Speaker 2: It's Frank Tyson.
Speaker 3: Oh he was clever. He was clever, clever guy, very
Speaker 3: clever and quite sharp too when he bowled, he was.
Speaker 2: You know what he mentioned that. We'll talk about that
Speaker 2: a little bit later on with the Frankison. But the
Speaker 2: World Test Championship is starting to emerge now as a
Speaker 2: real contest because it comes to a head with the
Speaker 2: final next year. But you know, England pushing up the ladder.
Speaker 2: New Zealand are still where they were because they haven't
Speaker 2: played a lot of Test matches, but we know they've
Speaker 2: got a job in hand. And I was quite impressed
Speaker 2: by Sri Lanka and the fight that they showed better
Speaker 2: than the Western in the series against England.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought overall they pushed England quite hard. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean they had one warm up match, didn't they
Speaker 3: against the Young Lions, and the Lions are an England
Speaker 3: A type England A side effectively and actually they beat
Speaker 3: the Sri Lankans. I thought their problem would be the
Speaker 3: same as the Westernies. Could they get enough runs and
Speaker 3: could they stay in the game long enough, you know,
Speaker 3: without a bad session. I mean one bad session can
Speaker 3: kill you when you're in a Test, vicially when you're
Speaker 3: playing overseas, you know, and you're tested to your skills
Speaker 3: and you're in unfamiliar conditions. But I thought their batting
Speaker 3: looked as if they could get runs. I mean, that
Speaker 3: wasn't the way with the West Indies, who collapsed I
Speaker 3: in the second Yeah, Sri Lanka I thought lost the
Speaker 3: game on the third morning of the match that had
Speaker 3: a bit of rain, but they were bowling at England
Speaker 3: and the England tail put on another hundred and that's
Speaker 3: what really gave them the lead between the first two,
Speaker 3: you know, between the first innings, each of the teams
Speaker 3: having said that though they won the toss and batted,
Speaker 3: didn't they and they were five for seventy and seven
Speaker 3: for one hundred and ten or something, but they got
Speaker 3: to two thirty five. It's not quite enough in the
Speaker 3: first innings, is it No?
Speaker 2: And they had a reasonable lower order response in both
Speaker 2: of these because of course that relatively you play. Amendous
Speaker 2: came out the second and got one hundred. He did it,
Speaker 2: had a good strikebreak too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, Amindu Mendis was outstanding. Got one hundred and ten.
Speaker 3: That's his I think that's his third hundred and four
Speaker 3: Test wads and this is probably the best of the lot.
Speaker 3: He bats at number seven. Very impressive because he didn't
Speaker 3: get there. You know, this hundred was away from home,
Speaker 3: not at Bangladesh or in Sri Lanka itself. They had
Speaker 3: a little bit of trouble at the top, didn't they.
Speaker 3: Karuna Ratna didn't quite get going. And Kusal Mendus they've
Speaker 3: been there to England before. They missed out in both
Speaker 3: the innings, the opener and the number three. They did
Speaker 3: fight back. And that's the point that I think you're making.
Speaker 3: I mean, in the first innings the Captain de Silver
Speaker 3: he got a seventy and I think one of the bowlers,
Speaker 3: rat Nayak or someone like that got a seventy. And
Speaker 3: then in the second innings Matthew's got sixty odd chun
Speaker 3: Mar got eighty and then Comindu Mendous and Chander Mail
Speaker 3: and Mendus. That partnership has they have kept that going.
Speaker 3: They could really well. They did set England two hundred
Speaker 3: odd to get to get in the last innings and
Speaker 3: England lost three wickets quite quickly. They could really have
Speaker 3: tested them out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chanda Male was batting under a bit of duress
Speaker 2: as well because he'd retired hurt after being whacked on
Speaker 2: the hand by wood and that would make you hurt,
Speaker 2: so I'm sure he was in a little bit of pain.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they did put They did put on a
Speaker 2: good fight with the bat. I was I watched through
Speaker 2: a bit of the night because I wanted to watch
Speaker 2: spinners and the kind of spinners that New Zealand are
Speaker 2: going to meet. But they yeah, yeah, they only really
Speaker 2: played one Jayasuria who was out and out. Mitchell Sant
Speaker 2: and the left arm around the work at pretty accurate,
Speaker 2: kept the ball there or thereabouts. The other spinners didn't
Speaker 2: do much bowling. I think Dan and Jay oud to
Speaker 2: Silver's spin, isn't he and so's that Mendous And you know,
Speaker 2: we didn't really see them. Conditions didn't suit but they're
Speaker 2: going to be dangerous when New Zealand get there.
Speaker 4: Quite clearly.
Speaker 2: I was also interested in England without Ben Stokes, they
Speaker 2: just seemed to lack that sort of inspiration that he brings.
Speaker 2: Pope did a good enough job. He wanted his match,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't quite the same in terms of the
Speaker 2: way Stokes captains aside a book like Brendan McCallum used to.
Speaker 2: You know, he'd make changes and then he'd slip in
Speaker 2: a fairly quickly if he needed to make a change,
Speaker 2: and that didn't seem to be quite every but I
Speaker 2: mean Pope did pretty well. It was his first test
Speaker 2: mention hard to make a judgment on him until he's
Speaker 2: had a few in charge.
Speaker 3: The first point I would say, I've said I think
Speaker 3: that the runs are there for Sri Lanka, and really
Speaker 3: in the end England had to be a bit more careful, didn't.
Speaker 3: They have to lose it those wickets, they had to
Speaker 3: give up and fullgo that sort of bas ball approach
Speaker 3: attack and they had to chisel out in an orthodox
Speaker 3: way to an orthodox win. And that's where Root showed
Speaker 3: his class and his experience. Really, but I agree with
Speaker 3: you about Sri Lanka when they play New Zealand and
Speaker 3: two tests at gare fairly shortly. I was there a
Speaker 3: year ago and gore watching Australia play Sri Lanka and
Speaker 3: it turned appreciably and Australia with something one test, but
Speaker 3: they won the second but Spin dominated. And really, if
Speaker 3: New Zealand want to hold their own their position in
Speaker 3: the World Test Championship that you've mentioned, they really have
Speaker 3: to try and win well at least one of those
Speaker 3: tests in Sri Lanka, right, and it's going to be
Speaker 3: a tall challenge. I agree with you as far as
Speaker 3: the pope thing goes. Yeah, he's won a Test. He's
Speaker 3: not the same as he doesn't quite have that instinct
Speaker 3: that Stokes seems to have about the game. He's he's
Speaker 3: acquieter captain, isn't he He's not. Yeah, he's not grabbing
Speaker 3: the game by the scruff of the net and shake
Speaker 3: neck and shaking it the way that Stokes does. So yeah,
Speaker 3: he's he. They've made him vice captain. There is talk
Speaker 3: about the guy Crawley when he comes back, perhaps being
Speaker 3: the next captain. I don't know, but there are other
Speaker 3: options there. But in the meantime they've they've chosen the
Speaker 3: Coote and so yeah, he did okay, he did okay,
Speaker 3: but he's not Stokes.
Speaker 2: There are fans in ukar to be looking at some
Speaker 2: of the websites over there that actually challenge Pope's value.
Speaker 2: Is he worth his place on the side. I think
Speaker 2: he probably is. He's a quality player. He might have
Speaker 2: missed out on this Test match, but I think he'll
Speaker 2: hold his place because of the consistency style of selection
Speaker 2: that Key, Stokes and McCullum are going for. Not gotten
Speaker 2: so much for consistency because they've been hampered by injury
Speaker 2: for the rest of the series. They've picked a squad
Speaker 2: that includes a new fast bowler, Josh Hull six foot
Speaker 2: seven inches tall. You know that's Kyle Jamison stuff is
Speaker 2: and he's coming down from a big height, as well
Speaker 2: as Ollie Stone, Chris Wolkes, Matthew Potts, Gus Atkinson, and
Speaker 2: of course they've got players injured. Wood of course is
Speaker 2: constantly injured and there's been a question mark about whether
Speaker 2: he should go to Australia because he's got that injury problem.
Speaker 2: And they've also got injuries to Tom Overton, Pennington and
Speaker 2: the cass who's back in the framework after some problems
Speaker 2: with the judiciary of some kind. So you know they've
Speaker 2: got plenty of good players there to bring into their squad.
Speaker 3: They'll take Wood, there's no doubt about that. If he's
Speaker 3: he's vaguely fit, they'll want his speed. But Josh Harley,
Speaker 3: you mentioned, yeah, he's been plucked out, hasn't he? Very
Speaker 3: left field suggestion? He's from Leicestershire, he's a lead from
Speaker 3: the Midlands farming boy. I believe Leicestershire are normally a
Speaker 3: side that's towards the bottom of the competitions over there.
Speaker 3: So yeah, six foot seven. I mean he obviously drives
Speaker 3: his car from the back seat of the vehicles. He's
Speaker 3: a left armor, isn't he as well? So he has
Speaker 3: trouble with scissors. England haven't had many left armors, have they?
Speaker 3: They can you? I mean I can remember side bottom, Yeah,
Speaker 3: but he doesn't. Does he play tests? Nolan? I think no?
Speaker 3: But what about did we watch the guy was at
Speaker 3: Melaley who was a surfer rather a strange guy, Alan
Speaker 3: Mulully and then the one I played against it but
Speaker 3: John Lever, But I can't think of too many others.
Speaker 3: I don't think Sam Curran has played a Test, has he?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think he may well have, but he's not a
Speaker 2: regular selection. He's seen as a white ball player, and
Speaker 2: they've named a white ball squad too recently with a
Speaker 2: lot of names in there, and important players have been dismissed.
Speaker 2: But they've got what is seemingly good depth, haven't they.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they look this guy Hull. When I say
Speaker 3: he's very left field. You know, he's only played ten
Speaker 3: first class games. He's got sixteen wickets, so that's one
Speaker 3: and a half wickets basically per game. That's not very
Speaker 3: good really when you think of pedals got five per
Speaker 3: game and he hasn't played a Test yet. Obviously his
Speaker 3: average is over sixty per problem. It's this group of selectors.
Speaker 3: It's their approach, rob Key. Basically he's one of the selectors.
Speaker 3: He wants to know only one thing, me the number,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's got to be eighty five and
Speaker 3: over and plus. That's what he wants. He's asking how
Speaker 3: quick and Hull according to the speed gun on one
Speaker 3: hundred you know that other competition called one hundred nonsense?
Speaker 3: Really he was The speed gun clocked him at ninety
Speaker 3: miles an hour. Rob is interested all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: and they obviously like his angle left arm. They haven't
Speaker 3: had many left armers and that helps Old Basher the
Speaker 3: off spinner. They like the fact that his height and
Speaker 3: gives bounce. Never mind his results. They don't care about
Speaker 3: first class cricket in that way at all, and that's
Speaker 3: a really interesting point. They don't worry about the fact
Speaker 3: that he's virtually not played at all. Never Mind all
Speaker 3: these other seamers in England that have got three hundred
Speaker 3: first class wickets. They don't have the pace, they don't
Speaker 3: have that number, and they you know, they don't want
Speaker 3: them those players other than perhaps against in England to
Speaker 3: bowl there like Wokes like pots, or perhaps playing in
Speaker 3: New Zealand. Those are the only two places they'll use
Speaker 3: those bowlers. But they've severed that relationship with the county championship.
Speaker 3: They're saying Tests are different. That's not the same thing.
Speaker 3: And it's a huge change in selection because normally, when
Speaker 3: I played and when others played, you were rewarded with
Speaker 3: the Test team selection if you had got performances in
Speaker 3: first class. That's how you got on the team, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: It's the first thing that's put on the table in
Speaker 3: the selector's meetings. There are the averages, there are the performances,
Speaker 3: and then you select those from Really that's the judgment
Speaker 3: of where you sit on those averages. They'll throw in
Speaker 3: some other stuff about character and all that sort of thing,
Speaker 3: but they throw these guys together and then they see
Speaker 3: what happens. That's the Test team.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, the stats are important, of course, how people
Speaker 2: do perform in certain circumstances and that is significant, But
Speaker 2: it's an issue also of how you use a player.
Speaker 2: Does the captain want him in the team for a startoff?
Speaker 2: You don't know, does the coach want a certain player
Speaker 2: and a side and they may you know, they check
Speaker 2: those things out as well, don't they, And people get omitted.
Speaker 2: I mean you look at their white ball squad that's
Speaker 2: been named Bye Bye Johnny Bestow. I don't know whether
Speaker 2: we could afford to get rid of a Johnny Bearstow
Speaker 2: in New Zealand at the moment, but they can do
Speaker 2: it in England. Main Ali was coming to the end
Speaker 2: of his time. But they've got a whole lot of
Speaker 2: new names in there as well. And I suppose that
Speaker 2: is built on the same premise from the England point
Speaker 2: of view, because there white ball team isn't quite as
Speaker 2: successful as their test match team at the moment, is it.
Speaker 3: No, it's not, But that's why they've made all those changes.
Speaker 3: They're clearly moving on from that recent you know, the
Speaker 3: ODI World Cup where they were very poor and then
Speaker 3: the T twenty where they were kind of average, and
Speaker 3: they're saying that's not good enough and so a lot
Speaker 3: of players have been you know, overlooked. The coach was sacked,
Speaker 3: No Matthew Mott as you say, no Best omanally and
Speaker 3: lots of new names, but just you know, as far
Speaker 3: as the Test side is concerned, instead of just looking
Speaker 3: at the first class averages and using that is kind
Speaker 3: of a basis to have discussions, what's happened now? It
Speaker 3: seems to me is they say, and that they being
Speaker 3: I guess Rob Key, Brendan McCullum and I would have
Speaker 3: thought Stokes would have been in there fairly intimately as well,
Speaker 3: having quite important chats they are saying, it seems to me,
Speaker 3: what is our tea His team need to be successful
Speaker 3: to play in these conditions, and that's why then they
Speaker 3: go out and they look in the county Championships once
Speaker 3: they've decided, And that's why they want to get this
Speaker 3: Josh Hall into the setup. They they like certain things
Speaker 3: about him, his pace, they like his height, they like
Speaker 3: his left arm, and then they bring him in and
Speaker 3: to their atmosphere and not judging him, and they they
Speaker 3: have their coaches and their medical stuff and so on.
Speaker 3: They want to see him at their nets and they'll
Speaker 3: advance them and they'll modify them quite a bit. But
Speaker 3: they are a horses for courses approach, that's my point.
Speaker 3: When they went to Pakistan, they wanted three spinners, they
Speaker 3: wanted a wrist spinner. Who did they bring Inbashir Ryan
Speaker 3: Armored Hartly.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, then they went to India and they wanted spin bowlers.
Speaker 3: I mean Rayan arm had got a five for in
Speaker 3: Pakistan and then he wasn't used after that. He hasn't.
Speaker 3: He's been around the one day, but he hasn't been
Speaker 3: playing in tests much since Pakistan. They when they went
Speaker 3: to India, they wanted to have tall bowlers with a
Speaker 3: high release like Axapatel even though he sort of skids
Speaker 3: of that tubit, and they wanted them to be quick
Speaker 3: and flat like Jadasia. So they got Shoa basher And
Speaker 3: and he wasn't even playing for Somerset at the time.
Speaker 3: He wasn't even selected for their for his county. And
Speaker 3: then they wanted Tom Hartley, who was a left arm
Speaker 3: orthodox as you mentioned, ahead of Liam Dawson who was
Speaker 3: playing really well. And Tom Hartley went to India but
Speaker 3: he hasn't been used again, and now they're looking at
Speaker 3: Australia where they want eighty five plus miles an hour.
Speaker 3: Paul Quicks out goes Andersen, Broad would have gone too
Speaker 3: if he hadn't retired, and incomes Atkinson and Stone and
Speaker 3: you mentioned tongue. Wood is shorter, but he's much quicker
Speaker 3: and he's skiddy. And now they've got Josh Hallan there.
Speaker 3: So it's interesting that's horses for courses. I'm not sure
Speaker 3: how it is for Ryan Armored now he's not quite
Speaker 3: there in the mix now. I'm not quite sure how
Speaker 3: it is for Tom Hartley. I don't think they're abandoned,
Speaker 3: but I wonder how it feels, And I wonder how
Speaker 3: it feels for all those medium fast bowlers in England
Speaker 3: getting loads of wickets, but a ten k's a bit slow.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The other thing from Ryan Armer's point of view, I
Speaker 2: just wonder whether he might not be athletic enough in
Speaker 2: the field. He's a fairly solidly built lad. I don't
Speaker 2: recall him being a draft horse, but you know that
Speaker 2: may be a factor in terms of his outfielding when
Speaker 2: some of them maybe a little bit sharper and a
Speaker 2: little bit better in the end the outer But you
Speaker 2: know that's a harsh judgment on a player who's performances
Speaker 2: with the Paul have done a good job for the
Speaker 2: England side. But you know it's a valid point. They
Speaker 2: are prepared to take horses for courses and you mentioned
Speaker 2: the pace and the tall players that they've got that
Speaker 2: may well be thinking behind this Josh Hull because his
Speaker 2: figures certainly don't recommend him at the moment. Because they've
Speaker 2: got the final matches of the World Test Championship coming up.
Speaker 2: England have a New Zealand of course coming out here
Speaker 2: and I think they have a series against Pakistan as well.
Speaker 2: But they're just pushing up towards that percentage level that
Speaker 2: is needed. They've still got a father of work to do.
Speaker 2: India and Australia are the finalists at the moment. New
Speaker 2: Zealand are third and they've got a real challenge on
Speaker 2: England are forty one percent to Australia is sixty two percent.
Speaker 2: I know it's crazy, and I remember Garth Galloway saying
Speaker 2: on a previous program about how do you pick a
Speaker 2: finalist out of a percentage? Why don't you get a
Speaker 2: semi final scenario and then a final scenario with the
Speaker 2: top four teams which doesn't seem to work out. But
Speaker 2: all in all it's well at the bottom, we don't
Speaker 2: really worry about those. It's the top four sides which
Speaker 2: are the moment India, Australia, New Zealand and England. But
Speaker 2: that can change with the amount of Test match cricket
Speaker 2: that's coming up between now and Christmas. When New Zealand
Speaker 2: play in December against England in our conditions.
Speaker 3: Yeah dead right. England are the big movers, aren't they.
Speaker 3: They playing against the West Indies and then Sri Lanka
Speaker 3: and then US, they'll feel that they've got a chance
Speaker 3: to move quite significantly up that list, and they have already.
Speaker 3: It's not really a league as it once, the Test
Speaker 3: champion where you play each other, it seems you know,
Speaker 3: that's a that's a real prop for me. It's a
Speaker 3: bit of a problem. They wanted to get the whole
Speaker 3: cycle over if they can within two years, it would
Speaker 3: take them longer the way they go at the moment.
Speaker 3: But it seems a bit of a I wouldn't say
Speaker 3: desperate attempt, but to bring some context to what can
Speaker 3: be dead tests. You know, if you've already ahead, then
Speaker 3: you've you've got only one test left. That doesn't really
Speaker 3: mean much. So they've tried to make those those dead
Speaker 3: tests mean something and it kind of culminates in this
Speaker 3: final just one knockout match and you mentioned guards. Should
Speaker 3: it be more than one test? Well? Probably?
Speaker 2: I think should it be in England?
Speaker 3: Should it be in England? We saw India playing Australia
Speaker 3: in England last time, didn't we for the final? That
Speaker 3: seemed a bit weird to me.
Speaker 2: I don't think it really matters. I mean, England and
Speaker 2: India produced the the biggest crowds, don't they. So I
Speaker 2: guess it's got to go to India at some stage.
Speaker 2: But I think that you know, because you don't play
Speaker 2: everybody in this championship, why don't they have it in
Speaker 2: two groups of five? You've got ten, they played that off.
Speaker 2: Then you've got semifinals out of the each group and
Speaker 2: then a final, because what they want is a final,
Speaker 2: don't they They want a big show piece. Well you can
Speaker 2: have two semi finals which are part of the showpiece
Speaker 2: as well, and then the grand final. But that of course.
Speaker 3: Challenge like a World Cup, like a World Cup with groups.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but that all challenges the Indian concept of cricket,
Speaker 2: which is all about the IPL. And you know you're
Speaker 2: allowed a Test match in the end of May as
Speaker 2: soon as we finished our IPL. And the fact that
Speaker 2: the chairman of the ICC now comes from India has
Speaker 2: just been voted in takes over from the New Zealand
Speaker 2: man who there it comes in October. So you know
Speaker 2: that's always the challenges for the people who have the
Speaker 2: responsibility to run the game. But you know, we will
Speaker 2: still attempt to get ourselves into the Test Match Championship.
Speaker 1: Brian Waddle Jeremy Coney on the front foot some.
Speaker 2: Sad news in New Zealand cricket circles this week. Well,
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago I learned of the passing
Speaker 2: of Test Match umpire Day quested he stood in thirty
Speaker 2: one matches in New Zealand. He was a TV umpire
Speaker 2: in fifteen matches. He had a test period of nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety five to two thousand and one and was often
Speaker 2: a TV umpire and he stood in eighteen Women's One
Speaker 2: Day Internationals. Seventy eight years of age. Dave quested I
Speaker 2: really enjoyed his companies. I saw a lot of him
Speaker 2: around the cricket scene because not only did he do
Speaker 2: test matches, but he did domestic cricket and they were
Speaker 2: traveling umpires around for that and he was one of
Speaker 2: those guys. He had a great sense of humor. He
Speaker 2: listened a bit to the radio. He used to have
Speaker 2: me on about times I might have criticized umpiring decisions
Speaker 2: and it was a lot of fun and it didn't
Speaker 2: take himself too seriously. So it's sad his passing untimely
Speaker 2: really to not be able to see Dave Quested again.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you had much to do with
Speaker 2: him as Jerry.
Speaker 3: No, not a lot was. I mean, I do remember
Speaker 3: him when I was playing for Wellington. I don't think
Speaker 3: he had many tests actually as an umpire. Did he
Speaker 3: in a men's game at that stage. They died five yeah,
Speaker 3: did he, Yes, But I mean he was always it
Speaker 3: is always easy to get on with. I think that
Speaker 3: was the thing. And he didn't get overly offended you
Speaker 3: if you happened to speak out of the corner of
Speaker 3: your mouth about what you thought was an LBW decision.
Speaker 3: So and all mine were out of course. So he
Speaker 3: you know, he you know, no, that's said, that's sad news.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that, actually, I have to say so.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, yeah, fond memories of Dave Quested passed away
Speaker 2: at the age of seventy eight. In his im cricket terms.
Speaker 2: Our interest of courses in the World Test Championship and
Speaker 2: the match against Afghanistan, they've left Rashid Khan out of
Speaker 2: the Afghanistan squad. Can't understand that pretty five years of age,
Speaker 2: five Tests and thirty odd wickets at an average of
Speaker 2: twenty two. I think he's run for out of the
Speaker 2: ass at times in that part of the world. But
Speaker 2: you know, it could be them just trying out new players,
Speaker 2: because there are a number in the squad that I
Speaker 2: haven't seen, and there's a couple of players who were
Speaker 2: successful in the World T twenties that have been omitted
Speaker 2: as well. Haven't they.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an interesting one. I just very quickly looked
Speaker 3: up the preliminary squad that Afghanistan have announced. There are
Speaker 3: only three players who played against New Zealand in that
Speaker 3: T twenty at Providence and beat them comfortably by about
Speaker 3: eighty or ninety runs, didn't they. And you know there's
Speaker 3: there's the opener, a guy called Ibrahim Zadran, who's who's
Speaker 3: in this test squad as well. There's the number three
Speaker 3: which is Omarzai, and then there's Gilberdine Naive as the
Speaker 3: other in the last one. He was that guy bold,
Speaker 3: medium pace and batted a bit and he was the bodybuilder,
Speaker 3: you know, every time he used to pose after he
Speaker 3: got a wicket with his muscles, you know, in his
Speaker 3: arms at the high tensile shapes and in his arms,
Speaker 3: he wouldn't have fitted into my shirt. So but but
Speaker 3: all the players that we kind of think of in
Speaker 3: that T twenty side, like Gerbaz the hitter at the opening,
Speaker 3: Rashid Khan, Mohammad Nabi Mudjib the off spinner, the left
Speaker 3: left arm legie, none of those are in that squad.
Speaker 3: Navin al Huk and Feruki the left arm swing bowler
Speaker 3: who opened the bowling and made a meal of us.
Speaker 3: Neither of those quicks are in that side either, so
Speaker 3: it's a very different looking Test side, two different teams.
Speaker 3: Maybe the others are off playing franchise quads.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: There's lots of obscure franchise leagues that these guys could
Speaker 3: be playing, even if they're not one of the main ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have one in carboor I can't imagine when
Speaker 2: you see all the shots on television that you see
Speaker 2: of Afghanistan, I can't imagine there's a cricket league going
Speaker 2: on in Carble, but there is. And yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 2: Rushied Carmel return at the age twenty five. The other
Speaker 2: thing that will happen is that these white fans are
Speaker 2: heading off to the World T twenty women's events in Dubai. Boy,
Speaker 2: have they got a pool to play in? Their matches
Speaker 2: are going to be against India on October the fourth,
Speaker 2: Australia on the eighth, Sri Lanka the twelfth, and Pakistan
Speaker 2: on the fourteenth. And they've had trouble against all those
Speaker 2: sides in recent matches. They've got a challenge, haven't they.
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, is it rather odd that the two ranked
Speaker 3: top sides in the world and T twenty are in
Speaker 3: the same side of the draw. That's Australia who are
Speaker 3: current holders and India. But however, at the moment at
Speaker 3: rank number one in that format that they're in the
Speaker 3: boat on the same side, aren't they normally separated?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they've had to make a change of course,
Speaker 2: because they've shifted from Bangladesh to the Emirates. England and
Speaker 2: South Africa, I guess would be the top ranked sides
Speaker 2: in the other pool Bangladesh, Scotland and West Indies a
Speaker 2: part of it, and they too, West Indies are starting
Speaker 2: to come up. They having a series at the moment,
Speaker 2: so you know there's a lot on for these sides
Speaker 2: of the world. T twenty New Zealand have got a
Speaker 2: lot of work to do and that in a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see they've invited what they invite, they're inviting you.
Speaker 3: I hope you're you're going along words, they're putting on
Speaker 3: something to eat mate, you'll be And there's a week
Speaker 3: and a half at Bank's Peninsula too, so if you go.
Speaker 3: So that's fantastic love that you and clear.
Speaker 2: Love right there's a there's a lunch on at the
Speaker 2: Headley Pavilion in so I think I'll fly down to
Speaker 2: christ have to pay. Doesn't say if he has included.
Speaker 4: The look the group.
Speaker 3: It's as far as I can make out the group
Speaker 3: stage that you just mentioned New Zealand. There are five
Speaker 3: in each group. They've got four games New Zealand. The
Speaker 3: top two progress immediately to the Semis. They don't have
Speaker 3: a super sex or whatever phase at all in the
Speaker 3: Women's World Cup, so straight through New Zealand players. You say,
Speaker 3: two games in Dubai and two games in Charger. Those
Speaker 3: are the two venues for the World Cup. Three of
Speaker 3: New Zealand games start at three am I imagine that's
Speaker 3: New Zealand time. And then one game they've got at
Speaker 3: eleven pm. So they've got three night games, in other words,
Speaker 3: and one day game. If I look, if New Zealand
Speaker 3: can't show up and just show something to all of us,
Speaker 3: just a bit new, then you'd have to reading out
Speaker 3: those names. They're playing against wads. You'd have to rate
Speaker 3: their chances. It's a bit slim to get through to
Speaker 3: the Semis, but you'd like to, you'd like to see
Speaker 3: some progress wouldn't you in skill and determination? If you
Speaker 3: look at the way they've folded under pressure in other
Speaker 3: World Cups, remember that one that effort in South Africa. Yes,
Speaker 3: mentally they just got to be a bit more brave.
Speaker 3: You know what sort of people they are.
Speaker 2: The thing is, I think that the top players, the
Speaker 2: leaders in the group, have to really stand up and
Speaker 2: be consistent, don't they. We've got a limited pool to
Speaker 2: choose from, and the top players have got to lead
Speaker 2: the way and show the way throughout this competition.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not be first of all, not be timid or
Speaker 3: frightened or the other thing you tend to do is
Speaker 3: you then become excessively bold or reckless. Those we've got
Speaker 3: to somehow find a middle ground to be a bit
Speaker 3: more thoughtful, very determined and are very calculated kind of play.
Speaker 3: I think with that kind of arrangement you've described, not
Speaker 3: having perhaps the depths that of other sides. My memories
Speaker 3: of the Men's t twenty in the uae AS, the
Speaker 3: day games are very tricky. New Zealand's got one of
Speaker 3: the forward a day game, every side winning the toss
Speaker 3: and the day bold first. Why the pictures were very
Speaker 3: slow and a bit uneven and then at night when
Speaker 3: the dew came down, the ball skiddered on and batting
Speaker 3: became much easier. Ossie won that T twenty World Cup
Speaker 3: if you remember, against Us in the final, and they
Speaker 3: won all their day daytime day game tosses, so that
Speaker 3: really helped. So good luck to them. You know. The
Speaker 3: New Zealand side will no doubt talk about it, but
Speaker 3: it's a tough draw having Ossi and India against us.
Speaker 3: Just hope they show some metal and a bit more skill.
Speaker 1: On the front foot with Waddle and Cody.
Speaker 2: Finally, this week cricket humor has stood the test of time.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I've heard after dinner speakers in many
Speaker 2: sports that can match the history of the game of cricket.
Speaker 2: This week I've trawled the archives the dusty label shelf,
Speaker 2: as old time radio jocks used to say, and discovered
Speaker 2: a gym from a speech Frank Tyson delivered at a
Speaker 2: testimonial dinner in Auckland many years ago in the company
Speaker 2: of Tony Grigg. Tyson started by talking about his views
Speaker 2: on the origins of the game.
Speaker 5: Julius Caesar led the first touring side to England. He
Speaker 5: went through undefeated, notably because the opposition seemed to been
Speaker 5: led by Boudica.
Speaker 4: But he did have a pretty good side, of any
Speaker 4: useful side.
Speaker 5: He had Agrippa, a very good slip catcher, Hadrian, the
Speaker 5: famous stonewaller, and he is said that they were playing
Speaker 5: one day against the twelve hundred club, and it just
Speaker 5: shows you how much they were playing lords against the
Speaker 5: twelve hundred club. And it just shows you how traditional
Speaker 5: this cricket is. You know, the twelve hundred Club from
Speaker 5: that to day, that day to this have still not
Speaker 5: updated by name. They're still known as the MCC. And
Speaker 5: there he was. He's around in the middle batting with
Speaker 5: his great friend Marcus Brutus, and Brutus ran him out
Speaker 5: and as he he's going back to pavilion, he termed
Speaker 5: the season. He said it to Brute, which means, I
Speaker 5: only call for a signal, you swine.
Speaker 4: I can see where you have some driving. Thomas's in.
Speaker 5: And so the game went on bread in this spirit
Speaker 5: of sportsmanship. In eighteen eighty two, Australia were playing England
Speaker 5: at the Oval when W. G. Grace was leading England
Speaker 5: and a young batsman by an MSP Jones was batting
Speaker 5: low down in.
Speaker 4: The order for Australia on a.
Speaker 5: Wet wicket, when a ball kicked up a divot and
Speaker 5: w g was feeling it. Short leg invited him to
Speaker 5: go down the wicket and pat it down, and when
Speaker 5: he did, he ran him out. So the game went on,
Speaker 5: as I said, with this true spirit of sportsmanship, until
Speaker 5: about the eighteen eighties, when a famous all round called W.
Speaker 5: Barnes was playing for England and the captain of Australia
Speaker 5: at that time or was a man by named MacDonald,
Speaker 5: and Barnes, for some unknown reason, took exception to McDonald
Speaker 5: tried to hit him on the nose, and quite understanding
Speaker 5: understandably McDonald ducked, whereupon Barnes hit a brick wall behind him,
Speaker 5: fractured his hand and took no further part in the series,
Speaker 5: which was a tragedy. Had taken five wickets and the
Speaker 5: square one hundred in the previous game. So you see,
Speaker 5: ladies and gentlemen, part of your success is tied up
Speaker 5: with the fact that you produce people with a great
Speaker 5: deal of character and a great deal of determination to
Speaker 5: follow their principles. It's produced people lords like Lord Tennyson,
Speaker 5: Lord Cobham, Governors of Bengal like Jackson.
Speaker 4: It's produced.
Speaker 5: Other people from other walks of life, like Sammy Carter
Speaker 5: of Australia, who was an undertaker. It's produced pigeon fanciers
Speaker 5: who were opening bats. It's produced all round us who
Speaker 5: were so like statues. But someday once said in the
Speaker 5: outer at Melbourne Boyley, I wish.
Speaker 4: You were a statue and I was a pigeon.
Speaker 5: It's produced a diversity of games situations, such as the
Speaker 5: time in India when Ray Jordan was batting HM.
Speaker 4: And he went into.
Speaker 5: The first ball he received, he played forward to it
Speaker 5: went off his patter and he was caught it short
Speaker 5: leg and the feeling side went up and Nempire said
Speaker 5: that's out. And Ray said, but I didn't hit it,
Speaker 5: and Nampire said, in that case you're out.
Speaker 4: There'll be w mister Jordan.
Speaker 2: I it.
Speaker 5: It has produced characters like Frederick Seward Truman, a great man,
Speaker 5: a person who had a great bowler, and the person
Speaker 5: who had implicit.
Speaker 4: Faith in himself.
Speaker 5: It is said that I don't know how true it is,
Speaker 5: but it's reputed that fred was once stopped for speeding
Speaker 5: by a policeman and the policeman said when he stopped him.
Speaker 4: Mister Truman, ah hah.
Speaker 5: Fred Truman, the English fast bowler, said, mister Truman, you
Speaker 5: were nearly driving as fast as your bowl.
Speaker 4: But Fred looked at his sad nave you wonder the
Speaker 4: bloody won't caught me.
Speaker 5: For instance, I once played against west Hall and everyone
Speaker 5: asked me what my experience of west Hall was, and
Speaker 5: I say, well, he's undoubtedly the fastest bowler I've never faced.
Speaker 5: I was playing at Acrington on one occasion I took
Speaker 5: five wickets and over including the hat trick.
Speaker 4: On my side lost.
Speaker 5: West Hall was on the opposite side, and in that
Speaker 5: afternoon I faced him for two bulls when I was
Speaker 5: out both times, but.
Speaker 4: I I kept on. I don't know why.
Speaker 5: When I first played league cricket in Middleton, uh the
Speaker 5: curator of the ground on which I played in the
Speaker 5: Central Ancial League was something of a fatalist.
Speaker 4: Every time I went in, he used to start the
Speaker 4: roller up I I I was playing well.
Speaker 5: On one occasion, I recall very well and instead of
Speaker 5: facing my statutory one ball, I faced three.
Speaker 4: It astonished the crowd.
Speaker 5: The first ball that I got I was hit on
Speaker 5: the pads us the umpire, I said afterwards, when they appealed,
Speaker 5: it would have missed like stump. It would have hit middle,
Speaker 5: but it would have missed leg. The second one I
Speaker 5: edged into the slips and I was dropped. And the
Speaker 5: third one removed all shadow of doubt from the observers
Speaker 5: to my batting abilloty.
Speaker 4: It removed all three stumps from the ground.
Speaker 5: As I was going off the ground, we had a
Speaker 5: little chap use seats in the front row of the pavilion.
Speaker 4: Used to wear a little choker in the flat hat.
Speaker 4: And then looked at me and he said, by gum.
Speaker 4: Frankie said, you were looking to make a book.
Speaker 2: Wonderful stories from the late Frank Tyson. I mean, we're
Speaker 2: guys Auckland about forty odd years ago, so a lot
Speaker 2: of fun. He was a He was a lovely guy,
Speaker 2: Frank Tyson. Although he was a fearsome man. Wasn't he
Speaker 2: the pace that he could bowl at?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, he was very quick, very quick, And I
Speaker 3: thought he's an intelligent man, as you can tell from
Speaker 3: that that speech too. I mean, where did where on
Speaker 3: earth did you find it?
Speaker 2: It's off the dusty label shelf, hidden in.
Speaker 3: The Okay right, Yeah, well there's no speech.
Speaker 2: No, I've got I've got some more of that. We'll
Speaker 2: plan on another occasion. So yeah, a lot of fun
Speaker 2: going to talk to you, Jerry. Next week we'll be
Speaker 2: previewing the Test match against Afghanistan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be fun.
Speaker 2: Sure. Well, my cheer, John Us. Thanks Jerry, Jerio Summer.
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