1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: It's ready to see price. Very good morning to you. 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 2: Not much happening today. 3 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: I see another quiet day the coalition. Now this ties up. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about this, this thing 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: that Dunton's got on with the CFMEU and the fact 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: that everything you see around you is built over price 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: because they're all crooks. That surely is in part going 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: to play well, if it isn't already in these polling 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: numbers we're seeing this morning. 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, no one likes that union. And clearly what 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: we've now got is federal labor and state labor and 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: Victoria in particular, but also in your South Wales and 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: Queen camp in denial over what they can do now 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 2: to react to the complaints that have been lodged against 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: the behavior of the union. So it will play out 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: well federally. It's probably more of a state issue in 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: Victoria than a federal issue. But when you drive on 18 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: a tunnel in Sydney and they've got a magnificent road 19 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: system there, now you know that you're paying a high toller. 20 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: It's the most tolled city in the world for road tolls. 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,919 Speaker 2: Then you're paying more because the Union were crooks. And 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 2: when they built the thing, they were paid too much 23 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: in salary in wages, and they screwed the hell out 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: of the people who were building it. And we should 25 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: also remember, and I mean I have to keep reiterating 26 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: that the construction companies themselves have got a lot to 27 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 2: blameful here. I mean, they had these very lucrative government 28 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: contracts and so when the union came along and said, well, 29 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: you know, we're going to be the ones who do 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: the hard yaker here, and you're going to pay us 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: a lot of money in wages. You're going to give 32 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: us more than what you would be paying people who 33 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: are not in the CFM. The construction company said yes 34 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: because they didn't want to lose the contract, and so 35 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: you end up with an expensive piece of infrastructure. 36 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: It's all the stuff, the laws they're changing, the Fair 37 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: Work Commission, who's investigating. Is that going to be consequential 38 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: and effectible? 39 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: Not? No pathetic And it's not even a genuine inquiry. 40 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: I mean, the folk has been put in charge in 41 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: Melbourne at the inquiry is in the inner circle of 42 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: the public service. I mean it's not going well. This 43 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: country's got a federal and each state as a corruption Commission, 44 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 2: and that Corruption Commission is not being used to investigate 45 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: what's gone on here. And so unless there is a 46 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: strong push from the public, a public mood to say, look, 47 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: this needs to go to another Royal Commission, or at 48 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: least to the Corruption Commission, we're not going to find 49 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: out exactly what happened in labor. It's a classic case. 50 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: Don't ask the question you don't know the answer to 51 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: because you don't want to know what. 52 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: No, you don't want to know the truth. See I'm 53 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: also reading stevevi over the weekend. Liverpool Council. Now this 54 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: is something we wouldn't have anything to do with normally. 55 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: But a city council in Sydney on the brink of 56 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: suspension a report that accuses it of potential corruption, wasting 57 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: public money, frequent and repetitive pattern of hiring family and associates. 58 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: What's the matter with everyone. 59 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: Well, local councils, particularly in Sydney in the time I 60 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: worked there, with the worst offenders. I mean, they're the 61 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: ones who've got in charge of planning permission and so 62 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: you've got a huge amount of power over someone who 63 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: wants to build a factory or do a housing estate. 64 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: You go to the local council and if you pay 65 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: enough money you will convince them to change the planning 66 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: regulations on that bit of dirt. It's as simple as that. 67 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: There's a long, long, long history in Sydney local council 68 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: has been crooked. 69 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: It's amazing, though, how many of us are joining up 70 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: your military and does that turn things around? 71 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: Bob? We're in good shape now. One hundred and sixty 72 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: New Zealand has applied to become members of the Australian 73 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: Defense for US. Nice. So when China comes over the 74 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: horizon up in Darwin, your boys will be front and center. 75 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: This is what because we've changed the recruiting the way 76 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: where we do recruits in New Zealanders been able to 77 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: excuse me to apply for Army, Navy and Air Force 78 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: since July one, So it's a significant number of people. 79 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: One hundred and sixty in less than two months, one 80 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty six in fact, it is. And then 81 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: from January a citizen of the US, Britain or Canada 82 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: you will also be allowed to apply for the ADF. 83 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: So I guess the old term a Zach is well 84 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: and truly alive. You boys are on our side. Now 85 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: when you get. 86 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: Invaded, well, exactly, we'll have no one left where we 87 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: haven't got a military. That's part of our problem. Hey, 88 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: by the way, we didn't get to the numbers on 89 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: that pole. What are the numbers on the pole? 90 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 2: Both sides on the nose? Only twenty eight percent support 91 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: both the leaders, which is really interesting. Albinize is less 92 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: popular than Dutton. And one name because they asked on 93 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: both sides of politics, who's the most popular in your 94 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: in that party and who would you like to be 95 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: prime minister? The name Senator Nampa jimper Price from Northern 96 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: Territory was the second most popular Conservative politician in the list, 97 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: after Peter Dutton himself. Now she's the problem is she's 98 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: in the Senate, so she'd have to get out of 99 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: there and find a seat. She's also in the Northern 100 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: Territory which only has I think two or three seats 101 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: in total. But she is an extraordinary popular person, seemed 102 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: to get things done, and I wouldn't be surprised to 103 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: the Liberal Party who were actually looking at trying to 104 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: nudge her a cost to their way and have her 105 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: as a candidate to stand probably in the Lower House 106 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 2: in the next election. 107 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: Interesting go well, might catch up Wednesday preciate a Steve 108 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: Price out of Australia. Yeah, Dutton's cost claim so is 109 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: backed by the master builders of Australia. They want independent 110 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: economists get in there and have a look at what's 111 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: going on. If somebody said the behavior of the union 112 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: was pushing up costs by thirty percent, that would not 113 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: surprise me. Extraordinary. And on the military in the New 114 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: Zealand as joining the military, people have been banging on 115 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: a plate about the police in this country and how 116 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: everyone's going to Queensland. It simply isn't true. Because there 117 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: was a story floating about over the weekend that the 118 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: government might we will raise this with lux and tomorrow 119 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: the government might be struggling to get their five hundred 120 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: more police officers because if you look at the number 121 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: of ads in the paper of the Police News, constabulary 122 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: staffing numbers have fallen by one hundred and twenty four 123 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: not including vacancies. So there were ten thousand, two hundred 124 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: and November twenty three, ten thousand and one ninety in 125 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: feb of twenty four, ten thousand and one fifty two 126 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: in March and April. So they're a bit over ten thousand, 127 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: but it's not growing. But then they get to the 128 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: Queensland number, there's sixty nine people have gone to Queensland, 129 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: sixty nine out of a populational workforce of over ten thousand. 130 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: Do that as a percentage, it's point six of one percent. 131 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: There's more than point six of one percent of ordinary 132 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: New Zealanders that have gone to Australia. And in just 133 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: about every large company in the country, I guarantee you 134 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: there's at least point sixty nine of one percent who 135 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: have crossed the tasmanal left work to go somewhere else. 136 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: It's a non event, it's a non story. 137 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 138 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 139 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.