1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,547 Speaker 1: from News Talk. 3 00:00:11,467 --> 00:00:16,467 Speaker 2: Zed B Monday afternoons mean a chat with James mcconey, 4 00:00:16,507 --> 00:00:20,187 Speaker 2: Alternative Commentary Collective Crowd Goes Wild all across your socials. 5 00:00:20,227 --> 00:00:21,107 Speaker 2: How are you mate? 6 00:00:21,827 --> 00:00:24,267 Speaker 3: Oh? Great, thanks Piney and great to see that you've 7 00:00:24,307 --> 00:00:27,387 Speaker 3: been listening to the Alternative Commentary Collective because you've got 8 00:00:27,387 --> 00:00:31,107 Speaker 3: Patrick Kerlagrenie on your show and we were singing as 9 00:00:31,107 --> 00:00:35,547 Speaker 3: praises last night, literally singing songs included the song song 10 00:00:35,747 --> 00:00:39,027 Speaker 3: and perfect Gentleman by Why Cliff John. I don't know 11 00:00:39,027 --> 00:00:42,107 Speaker 3: if you know it, but anyway, Yeah, he was our 12 00:00:42,107 --> 00:00:43,347 Speaker 3: player of the day of the match. 13 00:00:43,867 --> 00:00:46,347 Speaker 2: He was excellent. He was excellent and I must say, 14 00:00:46,387 --> 00:00:49,347 Speaker 2: in one of your other capacities on the Crowd Goes Wild, 15 00:00:49,507 --> 00:00:52,867 Speaker 2: I loved your chat with Kiren to mooifilow. This kid 16 00:00:52,907 --> 00:00:54,347 Speaker 2: can play too. 17 00:00:54,587 --> 00:00:57,707 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's got one more year until he qualifies 18 00:00:57,707 --> 00:01:00,227 Speaker 3: for the All Blacks. I'm sure he's on Razors radar. 19 00:01:00,547 --> 00:01:04,267 Speaker 3: He's just so talented. He saw it a couple of 20 00:01:04,267 --> 00:01:06,227 Speaker 3: times last night. He did bomb a try in the 21 00:01:06,387 --> 00:01:09,707 Speaker 3: first half though, so obviously there's little canks to iron out, 22 00:01:09,787 --> 00:01:13,667 Speaker 3: but Yeah, he's just rapid and the appeals because he's 23 00:01:13,747 --> 00:01:16,947 Speaker 3: just got that elite speed, which you know if you've 24 00:01:16,947 --> 00:01:21,227 Speaker 3: been watching Six Nations be Albury, the French wing, just 25 00:01:21,267 --> 00:01:24,307 Speaker 3: having the fastest man on the field often helps out. 26 00:01:25,947 --> 00:01:28,227 Speaker 2: I just look at Mina Pacifica. Now they've got the buy. 27 00:01:28,547 --> 00:01:32,587 Speaker 2: And then their next two matches are against the Chiefs 28 00:01:32,627 --> 00:01:35,107 Speaker 2: at home on the twenty first of March. In fact, 29 00:01:35,147 --> 00:01:37,507 Speaker 2: that's meant to be Oh no, that's been moved, hasn't 30 00:01:37,507 --> 00:01:39,467 Speaker 2: it from nukwalaw for They won't play it up there 31 00:01:39,507 --> 00:01:42,147 Speaker 2: now will they. And then it's the Crusaders down in 32 00:01:42,227 --> 00:01:45,467 Speaker 2: christ Church last night. You know when they beat the Hurricanes, 33 00:01:45,467 --> 00:01:47,667 Speaker 2: did it feel to you like a pivotal moment? Do 34 00:01:47,707 --> 00:01:50,107 Speaker 2: you think it's something they can launch from? 35 00:01:51,467 --> 00:01:54,467 Speaker 3: It did? Actually it felt like a massive turning point. 36 00:01:54,547 --> 00:01:57,307 Speaker 3: I think Callegreen he made a big difference at ten 37 00:01:57,907 --> 00:01:59,987 Speaker 3: sorted out there lyne out. They had their two big 38 00:02:00,067 --> 00:02:04,907 Speaker 3: Parlangy locks and there one of whom Tom Savage got 39 00:02:05,867 --> 00:02:09,107 Speaker 3: yellow arded. So you know it wasn't smooth sailing, but 40 00:02:09,227 --> 00:02:12,867 Speaker 3: the dominance of that second half performance, especially against a 41 00:02:12,987 --> 00:02:17,667 Speaker 3: stacked Hurricanes bench. We're talking cam royguard all black number 42 00:02:17,667 --> 00:02:21,667 Speaker 3: one half back now Dup Kid Efi, all coming off 43 00:02:21,707 --> 00:02:25,587 Speaker 3: the bench and trying to make a big impact for 44 00:02:25,627 --> 00:02:28,747 Speaker 3: the Canes, which I think they did, especially at EFI, 45 00:02:28,867 --> 00:02:34,267 Speaker 3: but seeing the way that the Wa pacifica dominated territory 46 00:02:34,307 --> 00:02:38,547 Speaker 3: position were really creative, they sort of won that upfront 47 00:02:38,587 --> 00:02:41,747 Speaker 3: battle as well. And and to be honest, a player 48 00:02:41,867 --> 00:02:46,467 Speaker 3: like Miracle Fire Lungy is a bona fide superstar blindside 49 00:02:46,467 --> 00:02:51,027 Speaker 3: flank for Muana and for Manu Samoa, and it's it's 50 00:02:51,067 --> 00:02:53,827 Speaker 3: actually great to see a player who's you know, come 51 00:02:53,907 --> 00:02:56,667 Speaker 3: from the Island's plays for the Islands and there's going 52 00:02:56,747 --> 00:03:00,147 Speaker 3: to be I reckon, you know, world fist Dean material. 53 00:03:00,747 --> 00:03:03,427 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh look, it's it's awesome to watch them play. 54 00:03:03,427 --> 00:03:05,547 Speaker 2: And I look, I hope that they that they do 55 00:03:05,667 --> 00:03:08,387 Speaker 2: launch from the Hey, if the Reds beat the Crusaders 56 00:03:08,387 --> 00:03:12,307 Speaker 2: this afternoon, there'll be three wins from three, the war 57 00:03:12,507 --> 00:03:15,827 Speaker 2: Tars three wins from three. So after a month of 58 00:03:15,867 --> 00:03:18,147 Speaker 2: Super Rugby, we could have the warr Tars and the 59 00:03:18,187 --> 00:03:21,227 Speaker 2: Reds as the two teams with a one hundred record. 60 00:03:21,227 --> 00:03:22,347 Speaker 2: Did anybody pick that? 61 00:03:24,427 --> 00:03:29,787 Speaker 3: Not this correspondent, pony, but I didn't think the Tars 62 00:03:29,787 --> 00:03:31,747 Speaker 3: were going to be good though. I just thought they 63 00:03:31,867 --> 00:03:34,547 Speaker 3: seemed to get the best cast offs from the Rebels 64 00:03:34,547 --> 00:03:37,707 Speaker 3: and they picked up Joseph Sueliki and teane ed Med 65 00:03:37,787 --> 00:03:40,747 Speaker 3: was really good for North Harbor at first five in 66 00:03:40,787 --> 00:03:44,587 Speaker 3: the NBC. So really I saw the improvement coming from 67 00:03:44,667 --> 00:03:47,587 Speaker 3: the Tars and that's that's great that they're doing that, 68 00:03:47,667 --> 00:03:51,827 Speaker 3: because even the crowd seemed pretty pumped over there in Sydney, 69 00:03:51,827 --> 00:03:55,107 Speaker 3: and it's it's important given it's a traditional powerhouse of 70 00:03:55,187 --> 00:03:58,267 Speaker 3: the game and how dominant league is in that city. 71 00:03:58,707 --> 00:04:03,147 Speaker 3: But then look, I think that the competition is incredible. 72 00:04:03,267 --> 00:04:07,147 Speaker 3: Just so many games decided by you know, unscore games 73 00:04:07,147 --> 00:04:09,307 Speaker 3: they call them, so just you know, seven points are 74 00:04:09,427 --> 00:04:14,507 Speaker 3: under those fans want to see. The biggest concern for 75 00:04:14,587 --> 00:04:18,187 Speaker 3: me in this latest round is that Friday night with 76 00:04:18,307 --> 00:04:22,747 Speaker 3: the Blues against the Bundies, small crowd just didn't feel 77 00:04:22,747 --> 00:04:25,627 Speaker 3: like there was much energy. You can't exactly call yourself 78 00:04:26,267 --> 00:04:28,907 Speaker 3: have a home crowd advantage if you haven't got any 79 00:04:29,267 --> 00:04:30,707 Speaker 3: people there or energy. 80 00:04:31,667 --> 00:04:33,707 Speaker 2: It's a good point. It's a really good point. Yeah. 81 00:04:33,747 --> 00:04:36,387 Speaker 2: They It's a big arena to fill, isn't it. Though, 82 00:04:36,387 --> 00:04:38,427 Speaker 2: You know, even if you get twenty thousand in there, 83 00:04:38,787 --> 00:04:41,387 Speaker 2: it's still not half followers. And look, I'm not suggesting 84 00:04:41,387 --> 00:04:44,747 Speaker 2: they move somewhere else, but we all know what a 85 00:04:44,907 --> 00:04:48,867 Speaker 2: good sized medium like. I don't want to call Mount 86 00:04:48,867 --> 00:04:50,947 Speaker 2: Smart a boutique studiument you look at Mount Smart when 87 00:04:50,987 --> 00:04:53,107 Speaker 2: the Warriors are there or when Auckland FC are there, 88 00:04:53,627 --> 00:04:56,267 Speaker 2: you know it's probably twenty thousand and there, the place 89 00:04:56,387 --> 00:04:56,867 Speaker 2: just rocking. 90 00:04:57,827 --> 00:05:00,467 Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing that I know that Andrew Wore, 91 00:05:00,547 --> 00:05:03,667 Speaker 3: the CEO of the Blues, is looking down the road 92 00:05:03,667 --> 00:05:06,347 Speaker 3: and see what's happened at Mount Smart and the ground 93 00:05:06,867 --> 00:05:11,067 Speaker 3: it's just basically become, you know, such a massive social 94 00:05:11,067 --> 00:05:15,667 Speaker 3: phenomenon really of watching people go up the wars and 95 00:05:15,947 --> 00:05:17,947 Speaker 3: the Blues don't have that they won a title, what 96 00:05:18,027 --> 00:05:20,187 Speaker 3: else can they do? This is the thing. They've got 97 00:05:20,187 --> 00:05:23,107 Speaker 3: superstars playing out there that you know, Boden Barrett's out 98 00:05:23,107 --> 00:05:26,107 Speaker 3: on the field with Caleb Clark and Mark Talia. You 99 00:05:26,147 --> 00:05:29,227 Speaker 3: can't say they're not exciting an exciting team to watch. 100 00:05:29,627 --> 00:05:31,707 Speaker 3: But the one thing that did let them now know 101 00:05:31,947 --> 00:05:33,987 Speaker 3: was not taking the kick at goal. And I think 102 00:05:34,027 --> 00:05:36,787 Speaker 3: it's about time that maybe the kickers, just like the 103 00:05:36,827 --> 00:05:39,427 Speaker 3: old days when you play club rugby, quite often the 104 00:05:39,467 --> 00:05:42,147 Speaker 3: kicker would tell the captain what was going to happen next. 105 00:05:42,707 --> 00:05:45,147 Speaker 3: You can't live it up to the ford. He's put 106 00:05:45,187 --> 00:05:48,307 Speaker 3: his head in fifty rucks. You just said a week. Yeah, 107 00:05:48,307 --> 00:05:49,947 Speaker 3: we're actually kicking for goal, you mate. 108 00:05:49,867 --> 00:05:53,307 Speaker 2: You know, and that was what decisions made. Yeah, hey, 109 00:05:53,347 --> 00:05:56,747 Speaker 2: six Nations this morning, and halftime between Ireland and France. 110 00:05:57,107 --> 00:06:00,187 Speaker 2: It was eight six to France over Ireland. So we're 111 00:06:00,187 --> 00:06:03,027 Speaker 2: talking about a goalkickers game there. At full time it's 112 00:06:03,147 --> 00:06:06,947 Speaker 2: forty two twenty seven defense optional in the second half. 113 00:06:07,867 --> 00:06:11,707 Speaker 3: Well, there's several things that play here. One is the 114 00:06:11,747 --> 00:06:15,547 Speaker 3: French just getting a sniff of blood really over in 115 00:06:15,627 --> 00:06:20,507 Speaker 3: Dublin and just starting to cut loose, and the ref 116 00:06:20,667 --> 00:06:23,307 Speaker 3: the new rules don't favor some of those big let's 117 00:06:23,307 --> 00:06:27,787 Speaker 3: call them plotting teams, and so the game speeds up. 118 00:06:27,867 --> 00:06:30,147 Speaker 3: Ireland can't slow it down the way they like and 119 00:06:30,387 --> 00:06:32,827 Speaker 3: can't control it, and the French are going this is 120 00:06:32,867 --> 00:06:35,667 Speaker 3: perfect for us. So there was one fact that I 121 00:06:35,707 --> 00:06:38,627 Speaker 3: think when I look at that Ireland team, man, it 122 00:06:38,707 --> 00:06:41,427 Speaker 3: was strong. There weren't too many key players missing. However, 123 00:06:41,947 --> 00:06:45,787 Speaker 3: there was James Low missing the Tasman wing. So you 124 00:06:45,867 --> 00:06:48,787 Speaker 3: lose a kiwi with only two kiwis out there. It 125 00:06:48,787 --> 00:06:51,587 Speaker 3: can be catastrophic, all hell breaks, loose money. It's like 126 00:06:51,627 --> 00:06:54,467 Speaker 3: a clover. If you've got four leaves, it's good luck. 127 00:06:54,787 --> 00:06:56,587 Speaker 3: Three leaves, just any normal clover. 128 00:06:57,307 --> 00:06:59,987 Speaker 2: And did anybody ever look for a two leaf clover? 129 00:07:00,307 --> 00:07:02,707 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think so. 130 00:07:03,387 --> 00:07:06,747 Speaker 3: Clover come on now. So, I mean it was a 131 00:07:06,747 --> 00:07:10,347 Speaker 3: big factor for me. But even losing DuPont early, and 132 00:07:10,387 --> 00:07:12,227 Speaker 3: I just want to come back to that if I may, 133 00:07:12,307 --> 00:07:14,867 Speaker 3: But even losing DuPont earlier, it just showed the depth 134 00:07:14,907 --> 00:07:18,387 Speaker 3: that France had. That people who follow that that team 135 00:07:18,427 --> 00:07:21,187 Speaker 3: will notice that even the bench that were new players. 136 00:07:21,187 --> 00:07:23,987 Speaker 3: So the depth there is crazy. But just on DuPont, 137 00:07:23,987 --> 00:07:26,627 Speaker 3: who got taken out in the ruck and has a 138 00:07:26,867 --> 00:07:31,267 Speaker 3: potential ACL knee injury, I think the cleanout is still 139 00:07:31,267 --> 00:07:34,107 Speaker 3: a debacle and they might I think Rugby the next move, 140 00:07:34,147 --> 00:07:36,867 Speaker 3: the next big move will be sorting out the clean 141 00:07:36,907 --> 00:07:39,187 Speaker 3: out and we could end up going to a place 142 00:07:39,227 --> 00:07:41,587 Speaker 3: where you can't leave with the shoulder on someone who's 143 00:07:41,707 --> 00:07:47,067 Speaker 3: standing there praying and trapped in a ruck. Because that's 144 00:07:47,107 --> 00:07:51,067 Speaker 3: how people, you know, basically get injured out of World 145 00:07:51,107 --> 00:07:53,347 Speaker 3: Cups like Quinti Pyra and other things, and now you 146 00:07:53,387 --> 00:07:55,747 Speaker 3: see DuPont, I think maybe it's going to be more 147 00:07:56,347 --> 00:07:59,107 Speaker 3: like American football where you have to push, you know, 148 00:07:59,267 --> 00:08:02,267 Speaker 3: use your hands, maybe your arms as well, but definitely 149 00:08:02,267 --> 00:08:03,427 Speaker 3: not leading with the shoulder. 150 00:08:03,667 --> 00:08:06,787 Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree. I totally totally agree. Do you reckon? 151 00:08:07,147 --> 00:08:09,427 Speaker 2: The black Caps can do it tonight? I've got Gary 152 00:08:09,427 --> 00:08:12,387 Speaker 2: Stead on the radio after two you reckon? I can 153 00:08:12,387 --> 00:08:12,667 Speaker 2: do it? 154 00:08:13,707 --> 00:08:17,067 Speaker 3: Well? How much do you pay for a commentator's curse pony? 155 00:08:17,107 --> 00:08:22,267 Speaker 3: Because I think we can totally do it. I love 156 00:08:22,307 --> 00:08:24,587 Speaker 3: the look of the black Caps. I have said that 157 00:08:24,707 --> 00:08:27,587 Speaker 3: we shouldn't be playing Ratchen Avenger as an opener. We 158 00:08:27,587 --> 00:08:29,787 Speaker 3: should protect them from a new ball. And of course 159 00:08:29,907 --> 00:08:32,867 Speaker 3: that opinion was aut of bollocks because he scored a 160 00:08:32,867 --> 00:08:37,667 Speaker 3: ton in the semi final and looked fantastic. And maybe 161 00:08:37,707 --> 00:08:40,227 Speaker 3: that's the genius of it. That's the roll of the dice. 162 00:08:40,307 --> 00:08:43,067 Speaker 3: We can only really score over three point fifty if 163 00:08:43,107 --> 00:08:46,187 Speaker 3: you do have someone like Ratchet who is a budding 164 00:08:46,267 --> 00:08:50,667 Speaker 3: superstar opening the batting. I would still protect them. I 165 00:08:50,707 --> 00:08:54,027 Speaker 3: would still bat them at four, But then I'm not 166 00:08:54,107 --> 00:08:57,947 Speaker 3: the coach that's made taking the team to several finals 167 00:08:58,107 --> 00:09:01,147 Speaker 3: and one at least one of them and Drew another. 168 00:09:02,507 --> 00:09:06,747 Speaker 3: Don't forget that Poney this time though. I think we've 169 00:09:06,747 --> 00:09:12,587 Speaker 3: got a really strong attack, that bowling attack, with our 170 00:09:12,627 --> 00:09:16,587 Speaker 3: spinners working really nicely. The other day, Santa just looks 171 00:09:16,627 --> 00:09:19,467 Speaker 3: to be in great form taking he's taken that captain, 172 00:09:19,467 --> 00:09:21,787 Speaker 3: see you like a duck to water. And then even 173 00:09:22,467 --> 00:09:27,747 Speaker 3: Bracewam and Ratch and Revenger himself looking really handy tying 174 00:09:27,787 --> 00:09:29,867 Speaker 3: down in South African. So hopefully that can happen again. 175 00:09:30,467 --> 00:09:32,867 Speaker 2: Let's hope. So Hey, great to chat as always, James. 176 00:09:32,867 --> 00:09:35,387 Speaker 2: Good to know we're on the same wavelength around our 177 00:09:35,427 --> 00:09:39,307 Speaker 2: friend mister Paller GREENI let's chat again next Sunday, shall we. 178 00:09:39,427 --> 00:09:41,107 Speaker 3: Let's do that. And I do agree with you about 179 00:09:41,147 --> 00:09:43,827 Speaker 3: the super Round should be in Fiji. Let's make it happen, 180 00:09:44,347 --> 00:09:46,387 Speaker 3: lens existence. 181 00:09:46,147 --> 00:09:50,227 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just imagine it into fact. I'm not sure 182 00:09:50,267 --> 00:09:52,227 Speaker 2: whether that's actually a thing. Good to talk to you, 183 00:09:52,387 --> 00:09:54,987 Speaker 2: James has always mate. James mcconny big part of our Sundays. 184 00:09:55,387 --> 00:09:58,587 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. 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