1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's real Estate covering all your real estate 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: needs news Tog's head be. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: Billy, You're welcome GDP day as we race for Q 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 2: two and what we hope was the worst of it, 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: had we got a scam with the tourist Levy, Big 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: chunks of at being banked, not being spent on things 8 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: like conservation. New stats that show youth offending us down 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: big time. Jacob Douglas, you'll like another new motorsport talent 10 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: to look out for his story after right jos and 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: Italy rodders watching Trump watching parades, asking welcome to the day, 12 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: seven past six. Important to remember, of course, that today's 13 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 2: GDP number is about things that have come and gone 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: months back, when we were discussing how tight it all felt, 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: how quiet it was. It will be proven today we 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: were right. The ongoing irony being, of course that as 17 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 2: we discussed that, as we saw it felt it, the 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: Reserve Bank was asleep or blind or had their spreadsheets 19 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 2: outside down because in May they were holding rates as 20 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: though nothing was going on. Oh, they were telling us 21 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: they'd done enough. They were telling us rates had come down, 22 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: the flow through effect was on, and things had settled wrong, wrong, wrong, 23 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 2: and wrong. So the Reserve Bank forecast is for zero 24 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: point three to the negative. Other banks have anywhere between 25 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: that and about zero point five backwards. Either way, going 26 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: backwards is not good. It's generally accepted that post that 27 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,919 Speaker 2: period ie July, August and September, the period we're currently 28 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: wrapping up, that things have improved, but by how much? 29 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: And if you look at some of the live GDP 30 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: reads in the latter part of this current quarter, once 31 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: again things seem to have slowed. They have possibly gone backwards. 32 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: Given that, it beggars belief that the Reserve Bank won't 33 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: be rapping the year with their final two decisions as 34 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: both being cuts, and you can only hope that someone 35 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 2: there here is the call for the bigger cuts of 36 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: fifty points. But rubbing up against the cold hard data 37 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: are the politics of this. The government will be fast 38 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: to tell you that Q two today's numbers go on, 39 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: better days are ahead, Whether they are or not. They 40 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: will worry about Q three another day, But this week's 41 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: poll on the economy has got to start to be 42 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: a worry. A decent chunk of the country blames this 43 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: government for the current economic malays. They shouldn't, of course, 44 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: but apparently they do here and now the butt's too much. Yes, 45 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: who do I hate for this luxon? That's how myopic 46 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: thinking goes. But the myopic thinker has the same number 47 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: of votes as the educated one. You might argue, I don't. 48 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: But you might argue that the labor plan of asking 49 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: the government every question time about the economy, whether it 50 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: be the people who have left the country, jobs that 51 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: have been lost, or the prices that have gone up, 52 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: asking them as though it's their fault, has been in 53 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: fact a stroke a political genius. Say it until it sticks. Basically, 54 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: if logic drive votes, this government will be fine. But 55 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: logic doesn't. A bad Q two they can live with 56 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: a bad Q three. That's a whole new story. 57 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: News of the world. In ninety seconds, the. 58 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: Charm offensive has begun. The red arrows. Then some inspections 59 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: and walkings and royal stuff. 60 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: It's fun for the king to show these objects to 61 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: the president, and the President I think be very interested 62 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: to see these objects. Also, there are letters from George 63 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: the sixth to the king's mother, Queen Elizabeth the second, 64 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: when she was a girl. 65 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: I mean, big day, big day. They've just cut the cat. 66 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: They reckon. There's two more to come before the end 67 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: of the year. But they've still got their critics. 68 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 4: If they cut twenty five now there are three months 69 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 4: too late. Now, what's the consequence of that? The public 70 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 4: all over the country has small businesses that can't get 71 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 4: funding and mortgage rates that are too high. 72 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 2: Meantime, the Senate Committee on Health was hearing from Susan Manaries. 73 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: She was the head of the CDC until Arry Kay 74 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: told us to do a whole bunch of stuff. She 75 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: wasn't going to do. 76 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 5: I responded that I could not preapprove recommendations without reviewing 77 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 5: the evidence, and I had no basis to fire scientific experts. 78 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 5: He told me he had already spoken with the White 79 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 5: House several times about having me removed. 80 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: And we have a course of the war. After yesterday's report, 81 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: Antonia has not finished. 82 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 6: We have seeing massive killing of civilians. 83 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 7: This is something that it is morally, politically and legally intolerable. 84 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: Ben Yamen, talking to his people, ain't giving up now. 85 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 6: And if there is one lesson we've learned from this war, 86 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 6: it is that we want to be in a situation 87 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 6: where we are not restricted. Israel must defend itself with 88 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 6: its own forces and its own weapons. That's why we 89 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 6: aim for security independence. 90 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 2: Finally, we've got a five day IS show set to 91 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: begin tomorrow in China. They will be showing off their 92 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: new electric vertical takeoff and landing vehicles, otherwise known as 93 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: flying cars. Unfortunately, during the rehearsal, a couple of these 94 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: flying cars crashed into each other, injuring one of the 95 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 2: pilots and causing the other under burst into flames. The 96 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: companies you pen are claims have happened because quote unquote 97 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: of insufficient spacing, despite the fact that there are only 98 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: two cars flying at the time. This is all part 99 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: of China's plan to build what they call a low 100 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: altitude economy. This is taxis and drying deliveries, all operating 101 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: below three thousand meters use the world in ninety are 102 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: UK inflations sticking not good for three point eight cars 103 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: three point six, so they don't like the look of that. 104 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: Japan exports slowed, but they slowed less than they thought, 105 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 2: so in this weird old world that passes for good news. Apparently, 106 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: twelve past six. 107 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: The Mike asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, how Offy. 108 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 3: News talksp. 109 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: Mortgage rate three year low in America, you can get 110 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: a thirty year fixed at sixty one to three. So 111 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: they we'll be I think excited about that, but you'll 112 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: note it's worse than us. Just quickly. The TikTok deal 113 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: which Trump is going to sign off was on Saturday 114 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: our time. One of the investors is Oracle. The other one, 115 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: and this is interesting for us, is silver Lake. Where 116 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: do you know the name? All Blacks fifteen past six 117 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: by Welt Andrew Keller had good morning, Yeah morning, Mike, 118 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: So Jerome to the party. 119 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, so fed announcement which has really very much just 120 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 7: come out. So we went into this expecting a quarter 121 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 7: of cent rate cut. We also went into its expecting 122 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 7: that there was going to be a bit of dissension. Look, 123 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 7: before we get into the detail, it's probably one of 124 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 7: the I think one of the most interesting and contentious 125 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 7: backdrops that I can remember having seen to a Federal 126 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 7: Lope Market Committee meeting. I mean, we had two people 127 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 7: on there, Lisa Cook, who got to retain his seat 128 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 7: despite Trump's you know, fairly fairly striding attempts to remove 129 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 7: her from that committee. 130 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 8: But he got his plant. 131 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 7: He got Stephen Moran in there into the meeting and 132 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,239 Speaker 7: was sort of expecting him to pitch for a fifty 133 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 7: bases point cut. We were also expecting the labor market 134 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 7: to be the sort of key factor. What we got 135 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 7: a zero point two to five cuts. 136 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 9: So that was as. 137 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 7: Expected, and Stephen Rand did in fact dissent, and Mike 138 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 7: he didn't just dissent. He went off the radar, which 139 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 7: I'll go into in a minute in terms of their 140 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 7: comments downside, risks to employment has risen, job gains have slowed, 141 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 7: so they really emphasizing. I think we'll hear more of 142 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 7: that from Jerome Powell in quarter of an hour when 143 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 7: he has the press conference. They said inflation remains somewhat elevated, 144 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 7: and if we sort of look at the dot plot, 145 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 7: the median forecast now for two more rate cuts. 146 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: But this is when it starts to get interesting. 147 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 7: One official didn't want to cut the rate at all. 148 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 7: Six wants no more cuts from now onwards. Nine want 149 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 7: two more cuts. One individual, which we can have to 150 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 7: assume is Stephen Muran, wants five more rate cuts between 151 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 7: now and Christmas. And so I mean, it's just bordering 152 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 7: on the ridiculous. 153 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: Really, so core inflation three. 154 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 7: Percent next year. They are actually saying that cor inflation 155 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 7: will go up a little bit two point four to 156 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 7: two point six. Unemployment rates still forecast at four point five. 157 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 7: They've got growth going, They've got growth in twenty twenty 158 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 7: six going from down slightly downslightly. 159 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 10: You don't have those numbers right now. 160 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: Five members want to go below. 161 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 7: Three percent down the road in twenty by twenty twenty seven. Look, 162 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 7: by the real for me in this what we're seeing here, 163 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 7: the real long term danger being signaled by what we've 164 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 7: seen is by this unfettered stance that's been taken by 165 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 7: the Trump appointee. I think this has serious long term 166 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 7: implications for the independence of the Fed beca. You've got 167 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 7: people going in, you've got put something that's gone on 168 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 7: to this committee that is said no, look, I'm going 169 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 7: to try and be reasonable, but a complete outline, I 170 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 7: mean so far away from the general consensus that it 171 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 7: raises concerns that if you get more plants in there, 172 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 7: the independence of the Fed to me starts to come 173 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 7: under under scrutiny. Markets reacted positively, but they're starting to 174 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 7: come back a little bit. We have seen US dollar 175 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 7: get a little bit weaker, so Kiwi dollar is a 176 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 7: little bit stronger. But we now wait for the six 177 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 7: thirty press conference when we get a bit more detail. 178 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: We'll have some of that for you shortly back home. 179 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: Ninety point nine is still not good. 180 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 7: Yeah, So yesterday saw the release of the Westpac McDermott 181 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 7: Miller Consumer Confidence So this up to day Dart. It's 182 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 7: September quarter, it's not high frequency as a quarterly report, 183 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 7: and economic confidence remains in there was soggy. Yeah, the 184 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 7: index edge down zero point three point. It's ninety point nine, 185 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 7: still below the historic average on this which sits at 186 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 7: ninety nine, So below one hundred on this on this 187 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 7: index means that there are more households that are pessimistic 188 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 7: about the outlook than those that are optimistic. And I 189 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 7: looked at this with some degree of sort of contemplations 190 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 7: that we're actually basically slightly pessimistic people, aren't we because 191 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 7: the long term average is ninety nine. Look, it's also significant, 192 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 7: Mike that the survey would have happened after the RBNZ 193 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 7: moved the official cash rate lower and indicated further cuts. 194 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 7: So we've got this lingering softness and consumer confidence. That's 195 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 7: despite the falling interest rates and the factors weighing on 196 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 7: that have been well documented. Softness in the job market, 197 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 7: increasing cost of living, you know, soft residential housing market. 198 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 7: It's not just the headline confidence number here. We've got 199 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 7: other measures. They haven't really budged yet either. In fact, 200 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 7: your expected financial situation people respond to that. It weakened 201 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 7: a little bit. Look, we've still got interest rate cuts. 202 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 7: They're still flowing through the households. Still roughly fifty percent 203 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 7: of fixed rate loans that repriced in the next six months. 204 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 8: They'll be repriced at the lower rates. 205 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 7: But as we've said before, that booster household wallets is 206 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 7: been tempered by increased costs for food they're at five 207 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 7: percent and other essentials. Mike, my final comment on this 208 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 7: will be the survey show the concern about financial pressures 209 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 7: is widespread and it's particularly acute for households on lower incomes. 210 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 7: So I think this political significance and this result exactly 211 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 7: Actually one final more comment, one final comment. Yesterday I 212 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 7: talked about the Big City. I said something might be 213 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 7: stirring in the Big city because the days to sell 214 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 7: for houses had fallen four days in Auckland in this survey. 215 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 7: Who's the most upbeat place in the country Auckly blooming Auckland. 216 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, get that. 217 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 7: So maybe it's happening. 218 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: I'm telling it. It's stirring in the market, believe me. 219 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: Can we let's come back to the current account tomorrow 220 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: because we don't have time because this revision things. Something's 221 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: gone wrong here anyway. What are the numbers for now? 222 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 7: So right as we speak about it, the Dow Jones 223 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 7: sort of kind of went up quite a. 224 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 2: Bit, and it's come back a little bit. 225 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 7: As we look at it now, it's up a roughly 226 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 7: three hundred points, which is about point sixty three percent gain. 227 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 7: The S and P five hundred up sixteen points, about 228 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 7: a quarter percent game, but the Nasack is actually lower. 229 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 7: It's down point sixty nine percent twenty two thousand, one 230 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 7: hundred and eighty As we look at it overnight, the 231 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 7: Forts one hundred game point one four percent thirteen points. 232 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 7: The Nike A was down a quarter percent four four 233 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 7: seven nine. Oh Shanghai Composite was up point three seven percent. 234 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 7: The A six two hundred, Yes, they lost two thirds 235 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 7: of percent fifty nine points eight eight one eight, and 236 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 7: we had a very small move seven points lower on 237 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 7: the n six fifty thirteen thousand, two hundred and twenty 238 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 7: eight Kimi dollar points six double oh six win our 239 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 7: last check. So it's gone back over sixty cents because 240 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 7: weiki US dollar point eight ninety five eight against the 241 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 7: ossie point five oh four oh euro point four to 242 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 7: three seven one pounds eighty seven point three nine Japanese 243 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 7: yen gold three thousand, six hundred and eighty seven dollars 244 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 7: in Brent crude sixty eight dollars and twenty cent. 245 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: See you tomorrow, Andre Kelleherjmowealth dot Co dot m ZEK 246 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 2: Farmer Day Eli Lilly five billion to build a manufacturing 247 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: facility in Virginia boost production capacity. Not to be out 248 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: done GSK Glaxo Smith thirty billion over five years in 249 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 2: US research and developing R and D and manufacturing. This 250 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: is all the Trump UK thing going on. So there's 251 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: money flying all over the place. Six twenty one. The 252 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: News Talks b. 253 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 11: Help you get on this label, I'm hev you get 254 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 11: this bee or. 255 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered 256 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: by the News. 257 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: Talks b Andrews right. Auckland is the most optimistic part 258 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: of the country at the moment, which is encouraging, along 259 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: with Wellington by the way, Waikato, Canterbury on ninety two 260 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: to the west in the country Taranaki Wanganu. We had 261 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: eighty one, which is miserable. But one of the most 262 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 2: interesting aspects is the men and woman split. Women are miserable, 263 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 2: Come on, ladies, Men ninety nine point six bordering on 264 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: being optimistic, Women at eighty three point four six twenty. 265 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: Five trending now with him as well, spring free, he sail. 266 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: On now taking a women next chapter and the Vicam 267 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: story is out. First there was the Beckham doco that's 268 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 2: absolutely brilliant. It was fantastic and when you're on your 269 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: roll you milk it. So next cab off the old rankers, Victoria, 270 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: the missus. 271 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 12: People thought I was that miserable cow that never smiled, 272 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 12: but I do. Don't be shocked. That uncle kid at school, 273 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 12: that's awkward. That was me, but I desperately wanted to 274 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 12: be liked, have a sense of worse. Fashion was this 275 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 12: creative out there. 276 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: A lot of people didn't take it seriously. 277 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: Everybody's warning her you will not be acceptable that. 278 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 12: It's taken so long to get to this point. I'm 279 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 12: not going to let it slip through my fingers again. 280 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: You can make cheese and antoasted sandwich with you, proud 281 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 2: of you. 282 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 13: Let's be honest. 283 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 12: I couldn't actually make a cheese sandwich very. 284 00:13:55,559 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: Well, and there's nothing wrong with that because I can't 285 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: make a choose and m sandwi John either. It's done 286 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 2: by the same people who made Beckham, which is in 287 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: part of the Becham company. Hashtag no bad press when 288 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,599 Speaker 2: you control it all yourself. Three parter. It's out on 289 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: Netflix October the night. It is called Victoria Beckham, so 290 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 2: you don't get confused with the other one, which is 291 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 2: just called Beckham. They probably regret now not calling it 292 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: David Beckham or posh or yeah. I mean you know 293 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: that name. Brainstorm would have been fantastic, wouldn't it. E 294 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: Can yesterday deeply disappointed and e Can so they called 295 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: an emergency. What does it mean? It means nothing. They voted. 296 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: If you're not up on this, this is night trait, 297 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,119 Speaker 2: this is Canterbury, and they say let's have an emergency. 298 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: They vote for an emergency. It was contentious nine to seven. 299 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: Nothing comes of it. Are they fixing it? Are they 300 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: changing anything? 301 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 14: Do the rule? 302 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: And nothing? So we'll talk to fair farmers about that 303 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: on the next half out on the better side of life, 304 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: on the good new side of the equation. These stats 305 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: around youth offending, they seem material and it seems to 306 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: be working. So we'll talk to the minister about this 307 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: in an hour's time or so. 308 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: Mike Housgame Insightful, engaging and vital The Mic Hosking Breakfast 309 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: with a Vita, Retirement Communities, Life your Way, News talks, 310 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: head bes up. 311 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: Nowra guys, we told you the Fed finally moved. Here 312 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: is the rationale. 313 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 15: Near term measures of inflation expectations have moved up on 314 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 15: balance over the course of this year on news about tariffs, 315 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 15: as reflected in both market and survey based measures. Beyond 316 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 15: the next year or so, However, most measures of longer 317 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 15: term expectations remained consistent with our two percent inflation goal. 318 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: John McKinnon's and Napoli. She's with us shortly twenty three 319 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: minutes away from seven. How about E can I not trite? 320 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: Emergency must be electioncies in any environment? Canterbury. They declared 321 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: this emergency. They worried about the ground water. You can 322 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: guess what the farmers think. Colin hourst is the thod 323 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: Farmers vice president is with us morning. Colin nine to seven, 324 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: which was the voute, shows how contentious it is. I 325 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: guess is this electioneering? 326 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 16: Most definitely might Look this is a cheap political stunt 327 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 16: and the last meeting of a council. 328 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 9: Why now? 329 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: Good question? 330 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: I think. 331 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: Also nothing, Actually it's important to point out nothing happens, 332 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: does it. I mean they had a bite and they 333 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: said all is emergency. Nothing actually happens, does it? 334 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 17: No? 335 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 16: No, that's right. But look, this is something that farmers 336 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 16: don't we know about. It's been going on for years. 337 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 16: We know there's night trade issues and farmers are doing 338 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 16: their bit and we're working with the council can constructively. Yeah, 339 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 16: it's hugely diverse, Mike. 340 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: Do we know for a fact the night traders all 341 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: farmers or could there be something else from history? 342 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 16: Most definitely. We've got examples of an old meatworks in 343 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 16: some areas where there's a whole of scepty tanks, so 344 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 16: it's just not farming. And it goes back a number 345 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 16: of years as well, so it can go back. We've 346 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 16: had some people come up with some information that goes 347 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 16: back to the sixties. There has been night trade. 348 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: Issues, right, So the part that farmers can do are 349 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: they doing. 350 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 16: It almost definitely. Look, we've had a through the council 351 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 16: Egin we've had past ten years, we've had up to 352 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 16: thirty percent reductions on some of the nitrate losses required 353 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 16: by farmers. So there's a lot of work been going on. 354 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 16: There's fencing of our waterways, some of the new different 355 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 16: plants like plantain reduced to nitrogen. We're really kickle how 356 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 16: we apply our food lives in nowadays. So there's lots 357 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 16: of things going on. 358 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 2: Okay, so they did ten percent of the worlds. They 359 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: did a big test on wells that were three hundred 360 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 2: and forty nine wells around the region. Ten percent were 361 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: found to have nitrate levels above the maximum acceptable value 362 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: for drinking water. You don't dispute that, do you. 363 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 16: No, Definitely, we know there's an issue and we're working 364 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 16: on it. What they've done yesterday is providing a wedge 365 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 16: between our farmers that do doing a really good job 366 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 16: and the council. Basically because we have been working what's 367 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 16: the council or a number of years to try and 368 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 16: to try and solve these problems. 369 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 2: Have you got a time frame on it? Can you 370 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: tell the council? Look, here's what we doing, here's why 371 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: we're doing it, and here's the effect, and here's what's 372 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: going to happen over time? 373 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 16: Yes, I certainly. Well it's a hard one. It takes 374 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 16: Some of it can be immediate, but some of it 375 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 16: can also take a number of years. If we reduce 376 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 16: our farming intention in some areas, it just takes a 377 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 16: number of years. It's a bit like the weather, extreme 378 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 16: rainfall and it will wash the night treats. 379 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: Through this world exactly. Well, what I mean it was 380 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: all driven by green peace, apart from anything yesterday. Who 381 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: hate cows? I mean, what do you do about that? 382 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 16: Well, farmers are trying. We're investing in a whole lot 383 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 16: of science to work out what to do. Look, we 384 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 16: would like to work with the whole community constructively. Well 385 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 16: that's what we want to do. 386 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: They're just I think, are here frustration. Colin, appreciate your time. 387 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: Colin Hurst, Federated Farmer's National Vice President. The other I'll 388 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: come back to it later, but then other incomprehensible psychobabble 389 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: we had yesterday was Keisha Castle Hughes, and I didn't 390 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 2: delve into the story until I delved into the story. 391 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: And then when I delved into the story, I regretted 392 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 2: every moment of it. 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Old mister 425 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 2: Salvini is causing trouble yet again when he does his thing. 426 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 2: Is that just like ah, there he is, that's him? 427 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 2: Or does it cause ructions? Oh, it's caused a bit 428 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: of a rush. 429 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 5: Now. 430 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 18: He was out the other night at a party greeting 431 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 18: the Russian ambassador to Italy, Alexo Paramonov very warmly, and 432 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 18: that's caused a bit of an outcry, people saying you 433 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 18: shouldn't be buddying up with Russia at this point, after 434 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 18: we saw those attacks last week in Poland and Romania 435 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 18: from the drones. 436 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: Now, as far as Italy is concerned, given that you 437 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: aren't Poland or Finland and you don't share a border 438 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 2: with Russia, how angsty is a country? I mean, the 439 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: war does it sit heavily with you each day or not? 440 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 18: I wouldn't say each day, but I think there is 441 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 18: a certain certain tension, a bit of rising panic dore 442 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 18: I say, in Italy, and a sense that we're not 443 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 18: fully prepared. And this week the Italian Defense Minister Guido 444 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 18: Crozetto said that Italy was not prepared for a foreign 445 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 18: attack from Russia or anyone else, and he used the 446 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 18: term madmen. If a madman decided to attack us, and 447 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 18: I don't mean Putin, He said, we're not quite ready 448 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 18: for that. 449 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: Who's the madman? 450 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 9: Then? 451 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 18: I don't know who is referring to, except for one. 452 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: That he might have had in mind. How bizarre as 453 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: far as the what I mean we're on the other 454 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: side of the world, and that's sort of not really present. 455 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 2: But I mean when you talk about what happens, say 456 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: you see Putin go to Alaska, there was going to 457 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: be a meeting, then there isn't a meeting. Then NATO 458 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: comes back and Trump goes one hundred percent tariffs, you 459 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: do it, then nothing happens. So that's sort of almost 460 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: like nothing's happened and the war goes on forever, isn't it. 461 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 18: Yeah, it's quite a seesaw. I saw some friends from 462 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 18: Poland visiting Italy this week and they said people are 463 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 18: very on edge in Poland and people with any money, 464 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 18: you know, they're moving the money out of the country, 465 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 18: they're investing in Spain. 466 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 2: They're really preparing for war. 467 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 18: So there is a lot of concern across Europe. 468 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: So is Europe split in that sense? So in other words, 469 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: if you're in Italy, do you look at Poland or 470 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: Romania or Finland and go it's sort of kind of 471 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: that more their problem than it is ours or is 472 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 2: EU united. 473 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 18: I think the man on the street thinks it's well, 474 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 18: it could be just their problem and we don't want 475 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 18: to send our troops and we don't want to get 476 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 18: too involved, but at the same time they're keeping an 477 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 18: eye on it. 478 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: Now, zero point six percent of Looking at GDP forecast, 479 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: zero point six percent doesn't strike me as illustrious. 480 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 18: It doesn't do. But I mean, I think it's still 481 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 18: perhaps a little bit ambitious because Italy hasn't really seen 482 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 18: the end of these negotiations over US tariffs, and I 483 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 18: think those any sort of prediction of GDP growth could 484 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 18: be ambitious at this point. Talking about zero point six 485 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 18: percent for this year, zero point eight percent in twenty 486 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 18: twenty six, but we could see more upeople, As I said, 487 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 18: with Donald Trump up ahead. 488 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 2: Politically, how does that play? I mean, do people blame 489 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: the government, go this is mediocre or it is what 490 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: it is. 491 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 19: I think they just go with it. 492 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 18: I think they just, you know, think this is the 493 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 18: way it is. We've had some positive industrial output over 494 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 18: the last few months, and that was considered to be 495 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 18: a positive sign. I think most people are just getting 496 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 18: on with it and getting back to work after a 497 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 18: very lazy summer. 498 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: Was speaking of which, why is the rhymeya talking about 499 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: swimming in the river again? Why wouldn't you do that 500 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: in the middle of summer, not noughtumn. 501 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 18: I don't know where that came from, but the Romeo 502 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 18: Roberto Gualdieri was in Japan and he said, I think 503 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 18: it's a great idea that we shoull start swimming in 504 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 18: the Tiber River. Maybe because they started doing it in 505 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 18: the Sane in Paris, but he thinks that the river 506 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 18: should be cleaned up and we should all be bathing 507 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 18: in that river in a. 508 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 6: Few years time. 509 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: What is the state of the river. 510 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 18: It doesn't look too friendly to me. 511 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 2: What they need to do to convince you nothing that's 512 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 2: never going to happen. 513 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 18: Well, it does look very murky. It's got a, you know, 514 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 18: a bit of a look like like Melbourne's Yarrow River 515 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 18: that's a little bit brown on the outside. On the 516 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 18: outside looking in, I have seen quite a few fishermen 517 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 18: pulling out some decent fish from there, so at least 518 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 18: the fish can survive in there, so maybe we should 519 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 18: keep an open mind about that. 520 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: Go well, Joe, nice to catch up with Joe mckinna, 521 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: who was in rhymebab way before I forget. Dennis Shanahan 522 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: on the program yesterday was alerting us to the fact 523 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: that yesterday could be a very bad day for Elbneasy. 524 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: He was up in P and G signing this historic 525 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: defense treaty until he wasn't. And I don't know whether 526 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 2: he's been stitched up or whether the P and G 527 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 2: people sort of the cabinet basically failed to sign off 528 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 2: the pack that it was the P and G signe 529 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: of it that couldn't get there. But surely before you 530 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 2: leave the country in lobby into P and G, you've 531 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: got your ducks in a row, haven't you. So we 532 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: went up to P and G and came away with nothing. 533 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 2: So that's embarrassing, mind you. If you look at the poles, 534 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 2: what does he care? 535 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: Ten away from seven, the Mike Hosking breakfast with Alvida 536 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: Retirement Communities News togs had. 537 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 2: Be like the only emergency that needs to be called 538 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 2: as a Council of Politician Emergency. Ecn's got sixteen of them. 539 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: You see the pictures yesterday. If you look at, I 540 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: mean a the room, look at the look of the 541 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: room looks like something out of Eastern Europe and the 542 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 2: size of it, and they're all sitting around the table 543 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: with full of their own self importance. Mike Luxon's going 544 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: weak at the Knees Gaza. Why do you say that, Jack, 545 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 2: I don't think that. If there's a problem, and there's 546 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 2: clearly an element of attention within the coalition, but it'll 547 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: be more act in New Zealand first than it will 548 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: be the National Party. If they could declare Palestine estate. 549 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 2: I think National will be first in line, followed possibly 550 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: by New Zealand first, dragging up the end will be acted. 551 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: Because David Seymour said the other day, why would you 552 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 2: recognize people who hold hostages? It's not a bad question, 553 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: is it. By the way, if you're in the housing market, 554 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 2: kyeing Aura are going to announce today there's a bit 555 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 2: of a scoop. I've got ahead of the market and 556 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 2: they're going to put an early bid and so don't 557 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: outbid me or I'll be furious. Kyeing Aura are going 558 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: to be selling the country's most valuable state house. It's 559 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: in Ponsonby, which if you're out of Auckland's very nice area, 560 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 2: inner city suburb of Auckland, one hundred and two years old. 561 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 2: It's a villa. It's a do up. I don't know, 562 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: maybe you reno it, maybe a bowler anyway, it's got 563 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: a CV of three point nine RB of three point one. 564 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: It's on six hundred and nineteen squares of land and 565 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: that's the key to it all. So they'll take that 566 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 2: from a singular house and put it into oh, I 567 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 2: don't know, half a dozen regular houses. And you know 568 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: that's how social housing should be run. But that's going 569 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: to be announced later on today. Five away from seven. 570 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: All the ins and the outs. It's the fizz with 571 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: business fiber. Take your business productivity to the next level. 572 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 2: Now, if you don't want to buy that, you're probably 573 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 2: busy going on holiday. What cost of living? Cristis Auckland 574 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: Airport telling us this morning are the upcoming holes? Over 575 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 2: a million over a million travelers are going to be 576 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 2: going through that airport alone. So forget queens sound, forget 577 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 2: dned and christ Jurch Hamilton got Hamilton later Hamilton booming 578 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: jet planes all over the place in Hamilton anyway, Orkan 579 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: the airport a million people alone, which is up six 580 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 2: percent on the same school holidays this time last year, 581 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 2: evenly split domestic and international. Five hundred and thirty thousand 582 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 2: others ago. When I say, as it's not me, I'm 583 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: not going anywhere I'm still here and loving it. Five 584 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty thousand going off shore, four hundred and 585 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: seventy seven thousand going I'm within the country. The Sunday 586 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 2: is expected to be the busiest departure day. Third of October, 587 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: which is the Friday. That's when you can come home 588 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 2: and check whether the cat's still alive and do your 589 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: washing before you go back to school and work. That's 590 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: the busiest arrival day. Where are we going, Australia, of 591 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: course most popular destination internationally, followed by Fiji, China and 592 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,479 Speaker 2: the US. Australia is leading the rebound. There's a four 593 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: percent capacity increase for this year, which is up on 594 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 2: the twenty nineteen numbers, Thank the Good Lord. That's offset 595 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: by the fact that we're still done nine percent on 596 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: the twenty nineteen number for overall international capacity. Of course, 597 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 2: we've told that story about a million times. Christ Jurch 598 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 2: is the top destination for domestic travel. Remember when it 599 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: used to be Queenstown. Now it's christ Church. Everyone's going 600 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: to christ Church, followed by Wellington and Queenstown is Wellington 601 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: the stopover. So are you flying or like Auckland Wellington, 602 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 2: you're stopping over to go somewhere proper. Are you going 603 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: to Wellington? What are you doing in Wellington? I'm joking? 604 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: So christ Church is your number one domestic Come please 605 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: tune in, you know, don't leave us behind when you're 606 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: going on holiday, or you or you flash folks who 607 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: you know can afford the affairs and stuff like that. 608 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: Speaking of the economy Q two today, we all agree 609 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 2: it's going to go backwards. It's just a matter of 610 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: whether it's oh not as that as we thought. Well 611 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: that was bad, wasn't it. The Ford picture is the key. 612 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: Michael Gordon's the West Pax senior economist. He's back with 613 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: us on the program. Very good numbers on youth offending material, 614 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 2: reduction in the number of young rat bags. We'll talk 615 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: to the minister after seven thirty. 616 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: News Opinion and everything in between. The Mike Hosking Breakfast 617 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: with Rainethrover leading by example. 618 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: News togs Head by seven past seven. So the New 619 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: Zealand economy is that stood in the months of April, 620 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: May and June, otherwise known as Q two. Everyone thinks 621 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 2: it went backwards, of course, the RB thinks zero point three. 622 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: The key to optimism is that as bad as it got, 623 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: in other words, as the current quarter on the right direction. 624 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: Michael Gordon, Westpac Senior Economists back with us. Michael morning, 625 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 2: good morning. You're minus what minus point four for us? 626 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: So what are you looking at? Construction, manufacturer those sort. 627 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 19: Of areas, Yeah, I mean there's some areas like construction 628 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 19: has been in a downturn for a while. Manufacturing is 629 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 19: a bit more of a reversal from what was actually 630 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 19: a decent Q one. The big thing that in there, though, 631 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 19: is that we're finding at the moment the GDP numbers 632 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 19: are not really fully capturing the effects of winter or 633 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 19: summer for that matter, So there's a little bit of 634 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 19: a distortion that's slightly to cause that number to be negative. 635 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 19: But even without that, it's probably more like a true 636 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 19: picture of a very. 637 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: Small plus something better in Q three or not. 638 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 19: I think things that tracking better in Q three certainly, 639 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,719 Speaker 19: And that kind of fits with the idea that as 640 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 19: interest rates are flowing through, it's really only in the 641 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 19: last few months we've really seen substantial numbers of people 642 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 19: going from higher morgagraates to lower ones, and it's putting 643 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 19: a bit more money in people's pockets that will eventually 644 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 19: flow out to other parts of the economy. 645 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: And are you saying that as an economist, as a theorist, 646 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 2: or are you actually at the bank materially seeing that, 647 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: because we've been saying that all twenty twenty five. 648 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 19: I mean, we're certainly seeing on the books in terms 649 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 19: of what rates people are paying, in terms of seeing 650 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 19: what they do with it, I mean, inevitably it's going 651 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 19: to be a combination of maybe some paying down debt, 652 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 19: maybe a bit of saving as well as spending. But 653 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 19: that tends to happen in every cycle, so we're not 654 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 19: counting on the idea that everyone's going to spend all 655 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 19: that money that they're saving on interest. 656 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: I read an article the other day that said this 657 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: interest rate thing has been overstated. In other words, from 658 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank's point of view, they keep saying, oh, 659 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: look we've cut here and there and everywhere, and that 660 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: will flow through. That's been overstated. Is there something in 661 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: that do you think? 662 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 19: I mean, I think there's a pretty high hurdle to 663 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 19: making those kind of claims, just because again, this happens 664 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 19: every time around, and it's usually you know, we're a 665 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 19: year into an easing or a tightening cycle. Then you 666 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 19: get the people emerging starting to say things are different, 667 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 19: the economy's broken. Interest rates don't work. A year further 668 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 19: down the track we usually find that they had worked. 669 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, consumer, the mood that came out yesterday was still 670 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: in the negative. How much that is we've decided it's psychological. 671 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 2: We've just decided things are stuffed versus it actually being stuffed. 672 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 19: I think there is a psychological out element, certainly. I 673 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 19: mean one, I mean, one thing that does cut up 674 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 19: in any conversation really is just this perception of the 675 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 19: cost of living crisis. Now we're kind of we're back 676 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 19: to below three percent inflation, so technicals was on target, 677 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 19: but I think there's still a perception that the cost 678 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 19: of living is just moving out of control. You get 679 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 19: these food prices, electricity prices and so on, the really 680 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 19: visible stuff, and that is just continuing to sour the mood. 681 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: But explain to me, just before the news I gave 682 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: the numbers from Auckland Airport. There'll be a million people 683 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: through these school holidays. A million people are flying. They're 684 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: going to America, they're going to China, are going to Fiji, 685 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: they're going to Australia. So what's real. 686 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 19: Well, yeah, I mean it's like I said, it's a 687 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 19: multi speed economy to some extent. But also I think 688 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 19: it lets the fact that, yeah, I mean people are spending, 689 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 19: they're just not necessarily spending here. And yeah, I mean 690 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 19: the the travel numbers have been notable, and I think 691 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,959 Speaker 19: also the exchange rate has been quite favorable for us 692 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 19: compared to the last couple of years. 693 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: Good stuff, Michael appreciated very much. Michael good and Westpac 694 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 2: senior economist. I'm going to Los Angeles and I'm going 695 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: to mine about the price of butter. It's ten minutes 696 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 2: past seven, Pascoe. The irony bit of banks around the money, 697 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: speaking of which we pulled from International Tourists budget papers, 698 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 2: show of the two hundred and twenty nine million collected 699 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: each year, the government's banking one hundred and thirty nine 700 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 2: of that. So this is the levey they raised, remember, 701 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: from thirty five to one hundred bucks a year. Tom 702 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: oft Potak is the Ministry of Conservation and is with 703 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: us morning mate, Hey cholem mate, how are you very well? 704 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 2: Are those numbers true? 705 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 9: Well, the two twenty nine was an estimate number, and 706 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 9: I'm sure may's well becoming true. But Importantly, tourists come 707 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 9: and use services, use the conservation state a whole range 708 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 9: of other things, so it's important that we allocate accordingly. 709 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: So that's what I was trying to find out, was 710 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: the two twenty nine an estimate. So in other words, 711 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: you will, once you've got it, pass it on to 712 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: the right areas or not. 713 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 9: Yes, well, that's exactly what we're going to do. You 714 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 9: might recall in the budget twenty five we said we're 715 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 9: going to give some more money to conservation through the IVL. 716 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 9: And I've got some other ideas as well about how 717 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 9: to make some money off thirty percent of the country, 718 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 9: like what like payde parking in certain areas, charging tourists 719 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 9: international tourism four or five locations like maybe Cathedral Milford Sound. 720 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 9: There's some areas of the country thirty percent under conservation. 721 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 9: We make about sixty million dollars from that, Mike, it's 722 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 9: not good. 723 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: Enough, okay, So just to clarify the story, what you 724 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 2: get you will pass on. This is like the funding 725 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 2: of rights. When I go to the petrol pump, the 726 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: money I pay in tax goes to roads. This will 727 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 2: go to conservation, et cetera. 728 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 9: The IVL was set up to allocate funds through to 729 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 9: conservation and tourism. Right, Okay, that's the first thing. The 730 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 9: second thing is we lifted the dollar amounts of the 731 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 9: IVL from thirty five to hundred dollars. Will increase the 732 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 9: number of dollars that are now going conservation, but not 733 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 9: all of it will go to conservation and tourism. 734 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: Well where's it going? 735 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 9: Well, some of it will go to you know, general 736 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 9: crown expenses. It's not as if tourists come in and 737 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 9: just use the conservation of states and tourism there is 738 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 9: They actually also use things like the health system and 739 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 9: the roads and a whole runge of vertry. A good point. 740 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 2: Did you say at the time, and I think this 741 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: is where people get angsty. Did you say at the 742 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 2: time and putting it from thirty five to one hundred, 743 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 2: that it will go exclusively to conservation and tourism or not? 744 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 9: Well, we did not say that. We were very clear 745 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 9: in the budget that some would go to conservation and 746 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,320 Speaker 9: tourism and increased amount actually, but some would go to 747 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 9: general Have. 748 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: You got any sense of whether it's put people off? 749 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 2: Because that was one of the great criticisms of the time. 750 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,959 Speaker 2: People won't come because it's hundred bucks. 751 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 16: Is that true? 752 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 9: No, then tourism's coming back. The numbers are branding again. 753 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 9: They're not perfect, but certainly in the South Island down 754 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 9: Queenston another areas. Mike, you will know that a lot 755 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 9: of the Australian cousins are coming over. 756 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: Yes they are well. Nice to catch up. Time of 757 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: po tak a Minister of Conservation, thirteen minutes past seven past. 758 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 2: That was only the story if they said it's going 759 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 2: exclusively like Rhodes to tourism and conservation. They never said that. 760 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 2: Therefore they can spend it on what they like. And 761 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 2: then the number of texts I get from p people 762 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: who go. But what about when they end up in hospital? 763 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: It's free, so that's where some of the money goes. 764 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 11: Mike. 765 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 2: Love listening to zib while cruising. Nice for some leave 766 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,720 Speaker 2: Saturday for a six week Oh just the six weeker 767 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 2: good Alaska to Singapore. Aren't we lucky? Yes you are. 768 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 2: Unfortunately I can't listen to you, Mike. It's the time 769 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: of the day when I'll be at the bar. 770 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 16: Paul. 771 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 2: I know you're joking because you can listen to any 772 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 2: hour of the day and night and get the podcast. Mike, 773 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: I'm hearing heading to Georgia and Armenia, the birthplace of wine. 774 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: It's their wine harvest in a couple of weeks. Are 775 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: you familiar with the region moderately but not great. Would 776 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: you like to place in order? No, Mike. When my 777 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 2: wife and I retired from Dneedin to christ Church both 778 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: quake people thought we were nuts. Look at christ Church 779 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 2: now exactly, Daryl, well done. Sure, Mike, I'll report him 780 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 2: from Perth, Cambodia. Then Bali three weeks three days leaving. 781 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 2: Can't wait. 782 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 8: So people are just literally texting him with humble brags. 783 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 2: Now that's what they do. 784 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: Fourteen past the Mike asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on 785 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by News Talk. 786 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 2: ZB best one yet morning, Mike Monaco boat show for me. 787 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,439 Speaker 2: I'll send you some pictus of the big boats. Thank you, Max, 788 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 2: have a good time. Seventeen past is Tiki Tani the 789 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: start of something locally on Spotify. So Tani, if you 790 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 2: have not up on this, is pulling his music from 791 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 2: the platform. He argues exploitation, poor royalty, subsidizing big names, 792 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 2: et cetera. Each stream owns an artist around about one 793 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 2: twentieth of Descent. Paul Spain, tech and business commentator with 794 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 2: US Paul morning. 795 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 20: Good morning mine. 796 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 2: So we got the bats as well pulling out. I 797 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: don't think Spotify is shaking in their boots. Is this 798 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 2: a thing though? Internationally? 799 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 20: Yeah, this has been going on for some time and 800 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 20: yet and it doesn't seem as though, you know, it 801 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 20: brings much much change or action at the Spotify end. 802 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 2: No, indeed not. I mean Taylor pulled out and she 803 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 2: came back. So if she can pull out and come back, 804 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 2: then nothing's changing. This is what it is, isn't it. 805 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. 806 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 20: Look, they're the most dominant platform for music streaming now. 807 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 20: I think something like seventy percent market share. You've got 808 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 20: YouTube music as well. He'll probably pay out a little 809 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 20: bit more per stream and Apple Music who pay out 810 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 20: the most. The reason they're able to pay out the most, though, 811 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 20: is they only have paid subscribers, whereas with Spotify you've 812 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 20: got that free tier where it's ad supported. So that's 813 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 20: why they're in part why the numbers don't stack up 814 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 20: as well. Although Spotify have been increasing their prices and 815 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 20: they haven't been increasing their payouts. I think there's a 816 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 20: there's a fair point there from artists that they probably 817 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 20: should be getting a bigger slice of the revenue. 818 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 2: What's actually driving at most is it the slice of 819 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 2: the revenue or is it this politics? And they invested 820 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 2: in some military AI and it's got all political. 821 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 5: Yeah. 822 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 20: Look, I mean I think that the investment from their CEO, 823 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,439 Speaker 20: Daniel eck In healsing and he's also chair of the board, 824 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 20: so this is not just an investment. He's invested something 825 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 20: like a billion New Zealand dollars in there, and you 826 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 20: know they're a defense company. And I think that's that's 827 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 20: something doesn't align very well with a lot of artists 828 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 20: that that their music effectively is funding it. There is 829 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 20: a flip side, though, and I think, you know, it's 830 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 20: important to remember, you know, if we look back twenty 831 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 20: five years ago, the music industry was being disrupted, not 832 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 20: by Spotify, by nap Start, and you know, at that 833 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 20: point we were moving into a world where nobody paid 834 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 20: for music any longer, and the future of music was, 835 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 20: you know, was very much in doubt. You know, today, 836 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 20: for musicians to do well, largely, you know, it comes 837 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 20: down to doing live shows and selling merchandise. So you know, 838 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 20: we've had these sort of two big disruptions that technology 839 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 20: has has enabled and facilitated when it comes to the 840 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,240 Speaker 20: music industry. But you know, I can, I can totally 841 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 20: understand why musicians don't really want to be associated with 842 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 20: what daniel 's doing. 843 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 2: Fantastic good on you, Paul good to catch uppreciate it 844 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 2: very much. And despite how clear that was, he's not 845 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 2: in the next room. He's actually in Singapore, which by 846 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 2: my accounts about quarter past three or four in the morning. 847 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 2: So he wins the Simon Watts Memorial Prize this week 848 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 2: for getting up early and actually appearing on the program 849 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 2: seven twenty. 850 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Call 851 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 1: it by Newstalk Zippy. 852 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 2: Whether it's a logistics firm monitoring deliveries in real time 853 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 2: or a tech startup demanding seamless connectivity Kiwi. Businesses of 854 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 2: course depend on what strong reliable networks. 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The tax 873 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 2: cuts of course completely unaffordable. But it doesn't make the 874 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,440 Speaker 2: compulsion a bad idea, just a reminder. I personally am 875 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 2: not for compulsion, but it is it seems the only 876 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,439 Speaker 2: way to say, solve our never ending inability to save. 877 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 2: Now what possibly is the defining argument? As a bloke 878 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 2: called John O'Malley works for Deloitte has written a paper 879 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 2: on creditor and debtor nations. That is, when you take 880 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 2: all of the country's financial dealings with the world and 881 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 2: you work out who owes what. Now, Places like Germany 882 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 2: and Japan and Switzerland are what they call creditor nations. 883 00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 2: They are owed money. The debtor nations owe them money. 884 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 2: New Zealand, it will not surprise you, is a debt nation. Australia, 885 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 2: which is where the paper originated, is what they call 886 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 2: a switcher nation. In other words, it has been a debtor, 887 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 2: but the numbers have reversed dramatically. Net foreign liabilities have 888 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 2: gone from sixty three percent of GDP in twenty sixteen 889 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 2: to thirty two down to twenty four. Now, if it 890 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 2: keeps going, you are a credit to nation. How have 891 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 2: they done this? Answer? Well, number of things because economies 892 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 2: are complex, but no small contributor has been You guessed it, superannuation. 893 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 2: Paul Keating, formal labour treasurer, introduced compulsion back in nineteen 894 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 2: ninety two contributions from employee employer. They've never looked back. Yes, 895 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 2: they had the usual arguments that cuts pay rise as 896 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 2: it's unaffordable, but thirty something years later the proofers in 897 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 2: the pudding. We have an average QI saber in this 898 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 2: country of about thirty thousand dollars. There's ze hundred and 899 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 2: thirty thousand. Recently, for the first time they could say 900 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 2: a person starting work, working for forty years on an 901 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 2: average salary could look forward to retiring in comfort. So 902 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 2: problem solved. They don't debate retirement and its cost, and 903 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 2: the wealth created makes them on the verge of being 904 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 2: a credited nation, joining the heavyweights like Japan and Germany 905 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 2: and Switzerland. So New Zealand or Australia. Who would you 906 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 2: rather be? 907 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 3: Husking? 908 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 2: I my friends walking the Camino Spain. Her husband was 909 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,320 Speaker 2: made redundant one polar step post, she said when the 910 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 2: scenery got dull in when the EarPods and she got 911 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 2: the mic hosking update on what's happening at time. Isn't 912 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 2: that nice? Doesn't you can do it also when the 913 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 2: scenery is good that polar step things quite good. My 914 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 2: daughter was in Albania recently and she did the polar steps. 915 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 2: That was good. 916 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 11: Mike. 917 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 2: We're off to India for eight weeks. I'll send you 918 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 2: a pick of the taj Mahal just the eight weeks. 919 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 2: Good on you, hi, Mike. If a million people are 920 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 2: going through Auckland Airport, that means twenty percent of us 921 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 2: are traveling. Not a bad economy. I couldn't agree more 922 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,399 Speaker 2: this whole thing. Now, this will be the two step. 923 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 2: I get it. Not everyone's got money, not everyone's traveling. 924 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 2: I understand that. But you cannot have a million people 925 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 2: forking out for airfares half the time. When you're not 926 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 2: complaining about the butter, what are you complaining about er 927 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,760 Speaker 2: New Zealand hate you news Zan cost you nine million 928 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 2: dollars to fly half an hour. 929 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 8: You haven't got a million people. You've got to go 930 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 8: there and back, So that's happy. 931 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 2: Okay, half a million people, You've still got half a 932 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 2: million people, five hundred thousand people or somebody actually negatively said, well, 933 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 2: how many you're on one way tickets? Stop being negative 934 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 2: when the numbers are in front of you. The numbers 935 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 2: are in front of you. You can't argue with that 936 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 2: many people with enough money to fly internationally and around 937 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 2: the countryside for what is nothing more than a holiday 938 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 2: for FUNDSI youth offending more on this than just a 939 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 2: couple of months to. 940 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, the mic 941 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,719 Speaker 1: asking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, covering all your real 942 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 1: estate needs, use togs, dead b. 943 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 2: Mike Positive, piece of news. Our daughter and new partner 944 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 2: on a one way ticket from London to christ Jurch. 945 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 2: Having lived overseas for more than six years, they're coming 946 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 2: home to settle in christ Isn't that good, Mike? Here's 947 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 2: a great way to in. A couple of good stories 948 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 2: that have appeared in the last twenty four hours. My 949 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 2: friend Kushler as a serial entrepreneur. She has developed a 950 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 2: technology to remove night trate from our waterways and rivers. 951 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 2: You should speak to her about the challenges in raising 952 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 2: venture capital. Your producers should contact her. Jeff, my producer, 953 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 2: Will We're on to it. And speaking of which, I 954 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 2: received a letter just the other morning from a bloke 955 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 2: called Jacob, who I didn't know of, and Jacob told 956 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 2: me a story and so as a result of people 957 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 2: writing to me, Jacob is on the show after eight o'clock, 958 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 2: twenty three minutes away from Mate. I might have a 959 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 2: wedding with new numbers around youth offending showing it's down 960 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 2: fourteen point six percent competed to June of twenty three. 961 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 2: Northland seen of forty percent drop Auklands down fourteen. Karen Chawles, 962 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 2: the Children's Minister, of course, and as well as Karen 963 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 2: Morning Morning, How are you very well? Indeed how much 964 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 2: of this as ram raids, like because we don't ram 965 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 2: raid much anymore, that numbers naturally dropped. 966 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 21: Oh yeah, that's a big part of it. I don't 967 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 21: have the percentage in front of me, but ramroids have 968 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 21: dropped by eighty two percent, and we do know that 969 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 21: that a small group of young people are causing a 970 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,240 Speaker 21: large problem within our communities. So this isn't a massive problem, 971 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 21: and so we're focusing on the small group of serious, 972 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 21: persistent youth offenders and it's starting to work good. 973 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 2: So this is the repeat offending is down. But one 974 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 2: of the in your press release you're claiming boot camps. 975 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong. The boot camps haven't even started. 976 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 21: Yes, but we did run a pilot and we had 977 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 21: a lot of learnings from that pilot that we're now 978 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 21: using within our work program, working with the community, working 979 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 21: with the families, making sure that we have a good 980 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 21: wrap around service with young people when they're going back 981 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 21: to the homes back into their homes. So whilst the 982 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 21: military style academy hasn't started for the program within the 983 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 21: youth justice facilities, it doesn't mean that we haven't taken 984 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 21: some of those learnings and put it into our work program. 985 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 2: I've also, I'm quoting you, I've also been informed that 986 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 2: repeat young offenders are avoiding reoffending because they know courts 987 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 2: are rung a tamariki and police are working together more closely. 988 00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 2: Is that anecdotal? 989 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 9: Is that real? 990 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,400 Speaker 21: That's what I'm hearing out in the community. I'm hearing 991 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 21: that the consistent message from Autongitomiitiki police and other agencies 992 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 21: that the messages out there that young people know now 993 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 21: that they're not untouchable and that there will be consequences 994 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:18,800 Speaker 21: of their offending. 995 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 2: Okay, Now, the variation and region so forty percent, Northland 996 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 2: thirty six, Tasman twenty eight, Wellington seventeen, Wykato. Can you 997 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 2: explain that? Is that a different approach from the police 998 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 2: in ot or there was more crime in some areas 999 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 2: than others, or what's gone on there. 1000 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 21: We've had focus in some areas where we knew there 1001 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 21: was a big problem, where communities were telling us this 1002 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,839 Speaker 21: was a problem. So there were some regions where where 1003 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 21: tables were set up with cross agency approaches around the table. 1004 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,360 Speaker 21: But what I would say is the fast track, the 1005 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 21: extension of the fast track that had been set up. 1006 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,240 Speaker 21: I think over multiple community chees have really made a difference. 1007 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 21: In Hamilton wrote a rua christ Church Auckland, where where 1008 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 21: we have multiple agencies sitting around the table and making quicker, 1009 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 21: faster decisions about what we're going. 1010 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 2: To do good Is there more where this came from. 1011 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 21: Oh, absolutely, we're not going to stop. Whilst fourteen point 1012 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,839 Speaker 21: six percent is a good number and we're a few 1013 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 21: years ahead of our target, it doesn't mean we stop. 1014 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 21: We keep going because communities have told us they felt 1015 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 21: unsafe and this is a problem that needed to be fixed, 1016 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 21: and I campaigned on making sure there were consequences for 1017 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 21: young people. But we also need to make sure that 1018 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 21: we've got good rehabilitation there so that we're not getting 1019 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 21: this repeat of ending good stuff. 1020 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 2: Karenppreciate it. Karen Shaw Children's Minister, one of the better ones. 1021 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 2: Nineteen minutes away from mate Mike. We just finished walking 1022 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 2: the last one hundred and fifteen k's of the Camino. 1023 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 2: Now in Portugal, thank you for listening, then off to Ireland. 1024 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 2: Love traveling, but love to get home. So Cadie's at 1025 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 2: the headdress of the other day. Her headdresser is one 1026 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 2: of those hairdressers that has clients that just permanently travel 1027 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 2: internationally and then come back here to get their hair done. 1028 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 2: They all said the same thing. Interesting, they travels hard, 1029 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:14,839 Speaker 2: and travels harder, travels indisputably more expensive. Travel has more 1030 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 2: issues with it these days, a tremendous and this is anecdotal, obviously, 1031 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 2: but most of them, virtually all of them came home 1032 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 2: and got ill, and they're all said the same thing. 1033 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 2: Traveling's great, still love it, but it's great to be home, 1034 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 2: which I found to be encouraged. 1035 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,240 Speaker 8: So can you not get your hair done overseas? 1036 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 2: Not in the way that they get it done with? 1037 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 2: Nicole Nichole's like one out of the box. Eighteen to two. 1038 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:43,280 Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered 1039 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 1: by the News Talks at be. 1040 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 2: Mike. I'm currently touring and heavy traffic on the Northwestern Motorway. 1041 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 2: Travel broadens the mind. It's very funny. Mike, just come 1042 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 2: back from Paris, got sick. Glad to be home. I 1043 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 2: need Nicole which salon. Thanks Nicki, Nicky, you can't have 1044 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 2: a books are full. She's another one. This is my 1045 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 2: ongoing theme at the moment with this economy radish this morning. Sorry. 1046 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,359 Speaker 2: The theme is if you are good, you will do well. 1047 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 2: So it's as simple as that. And if you and 1048 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 2: Nicole is good. I've never been to Nicole. Just Cadie 1049 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 2: tells me she's good. But she she set up her 1050 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,839 Speaker 2: own business. You can't get in for love nor money 1051 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 2: because she's you know, people will trap and they go 1052 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 2: for miles around. Now, Scott Bessont quickly, who's the Treasury 1053 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 2: secretary who appears to be in London. They sort of 1054 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 2: joined at the hip, those guys. They sort of just 1055 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 2: go round the world together. I wouldn't be surprised a 1056 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 2: bit coughs at Windsor Castle as well. At the moment 1057 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 2: Rubio certainly is he was in Israel, so he's gone 1058 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 2: from Israel to Windsor Castle anyway. Besson't eddie has been 1059 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 2: sprung this morning. In his mortgage documents. He agreed to 1060 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 2: call two houses principal residents. Now why is this a 1061 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 2: big deal? Well, when somebody else did a woman called 1062 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 2: Lisa who works at the FED. When she did it, 1063 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,400 Speaker 2: Trump didn't like it so much. He went to SAKA. 1064 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 2: Now that particular action is in abeyance at the moment 1065 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 2: due to the fact the courts are involved, but if 1066 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 2: he can sack it for that wise and he sacking Vesson. 1067 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,319 Speaker 2: This was back in two thousand and seven. A house 1068 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 2: in Bedford Hills, New York and Provincetown, Massachusetts, each would 1069 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 2: be his principal residence. So she can do it. So 1070 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 2: whether you all see anything come out of that, I 1071 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 2: don't know. Keisha Castle Hughes in comprehensible psychobabble and this 1072 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 2: is can I just I just want to dovetail two 1073 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 2: stories together. It's a very good piece of this morning 1074 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 2: floating about. I think it's in The Herald. Gavin Ellis, 1075 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 2: who used to be the editor of The Herald, works 1076 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 2: for Sir Peter Gluckman's think tank these days, and he's 1077 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,320 Speaker 2: written a thing about the media. And I try and 1078 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 2: avoid talking about the media on this program because it 1079 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,719 Speaker 2: sounds like I've got a vested interest and I don't. 1080 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 2: But his paper appears to be relatively comprehensive, and he 1081 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 2: talks about information deserts, and with the shrinking of the 1082 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 2: media in this country, there are parts of the country 1083 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 2: that essentially are no longer covered. You're seeing in another country, 1084 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 2: see in Australia, parts of America. Essentially whole chunks of 1085 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 2: the country aren't actually covered in news form locally, and 1086 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,320 Speaker 2: that's an issue. But can I then dovetail in the 1087 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 2: fact that we do ourselves? And when I say we, 1088 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,839 Speaker 2: I just very loosely associate myself with the media these 1089 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 2: days and try and keep as big a distance as 1090 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 2: I possibly can. But the Keisha Castle Hughes story yesterday 1091 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,280 Speaker 2: was a very good example of that. The media indulges nonsense. 1092 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 2: And when the media indulges nonsense, everyone looks at the 1093 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 2: media and goes, well, that's why it's in the state. 1094 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 2: It's in so Kisha Castle here is So I finally 1095 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 2: get to the bottom of it yesterday and I'm watching 1096 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 2: TV three News who apparently interview I'm watching this interview 1097 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 2: and I thought, why are you interviewing it? They're interviewing it. 1098 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 2: It turns out she's claiming racism and her child and 1099 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 2: getting citizenship. Turns out she's in front of the white 1100 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,360 Speaker 2: tangy Tribunal. First question, why are you in front of 1101 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 2: the White Tangy Tribunal. The White Tangy Tribunal has zero 1102 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 2: legal standing. What they say does not go. They just 1103 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 2: offer opinions. That's all they do. So why you would 1104 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 2: go in front of somebody who's going to do nothing 1105 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 2: more than offer an opinion, I don't know unless you've 1106 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,359 Speaker 2: got a tremendous amount of spare of time. Turns out 1107 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 2: Keisha Castle Hughes had trouble with her daughter, who she 1108 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 2: wants citizenship for, and the trouble is that this daughter 1109 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 2: wasn't born in New Zealand. Now it's not her fault 1110 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,760 Speaker 2: that she wasn't born in New Zealand. She was apparently 1111 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 2: locked down in New York, so that's unfortunate. But it 1112 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 2: also turns out he's the key to this. Keisha Castle 1113 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 2: wasn't born in New Zealand either, So mum wasn't born 1114 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 2: in New Zealand. Daughter wasn't born in New Zealand. But somehow, 1115 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 2: and this is where the race issue comes in. Somehow 1116 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 2: because where Maori, we can just change the rules. Now, 1117 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 2: the rules that she's railing against have been in place 1118 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 2: as far as I can work out forever. She is 1119 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 2: a citizen in Keisha Castle Hughes is a citizen by descent. 1120 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 2: Her mother's a New Zealand citizen, had her in Australia, 1121 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 2: so she becomes citizen by descent. When your citizen by descent, 1122 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 2: you can't then just go have a child overseas, as 1123 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,760 Speaker 2: unfortunate as those circumstances may have been because of COVID, 1124 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 2: and then just rock up and go, well that child, 1125 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 2: there's a news. It doesn't work that way. It's never 1126 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,800 Speaker 2: worked that way. And all we got out of that 1127 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 2: was I can assume we paid attention to it. All 1128 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,919 Speaker 2: those who paid attention paid attention to it because she's 1129 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 2: Keisha Castle Hughes and was once in a movie and 1130 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,400 Speaker 2: we all got excited about it. Now, the rules are 1131 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 2: the rules. If you want to change the rule, sure, 1132 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 2: lobby if you want. But by the time I got 1133 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 2: to the bottom of the issue, she just wanted to 1134 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,439 Speaker 2: fuck a popper and Correy Rue and do a whole 1135 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,240 Speaker 2: bunch of stuff in front of the White Tangi Tribunal. 1136 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 2: And we all sat there wasting our time. Nothing's changing. 1137 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 8: You really distance yourself from the media there, turn away 1138 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:36,360 Speaker 8: from it. 1139 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: She's a make hosking breakfast with rainthrow ber and used 1140 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:41,200 Speaker 1: Tog's dead Bees. 1141 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:42,839 Speaker 2: Living away from a good day for the White Cato. 1142 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,359 Speaker 2: As the previously announced jet service between Hamilton and christ 1143 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,399 Speaker 2: Church takes off air and Z will run at five 1144 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 2: days a week, first domestic jet service for a quarter century. 1145 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 2: Don Good as the White Catter Chamber of Comma's bosses 1146 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 2: with us morning. 1147 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 13: How are you this morning? 1148 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:54,399 Speaker 4: Mike? 1149 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 2: Very well? Indeed, does it feel like this is going 1150 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,400 Speaker 2: to be impactful or a game changer? 1151 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 13: It certainly is going to increase the capacity on that 1152 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,839 Speaker 13: that air that's for sure, and it will certainly bring 1153 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 13: christ Edge and a lot closer to the White Ghatto, 1154 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:11,279 Speaker 13: which is great. 1155 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,879 Speaker 2: Do you think if they build that people will come. 1156 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 2: Is this about just you know, different planes or is 1157 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 2: it about actually growing a market? 1158 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 13: I think they've had excess demand on those routes already 1159 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 13: and that's why they're putting the aircraft on. They wouldn't 1160 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:26,320 Speaker 13: do it otherwise. 1161 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,800 Speaker 2: Is there a convenience factor as the schedule changes that 1162 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,839 Speaker 2: you know, easier for people to get from one place 1163 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:32,280 Speaker 2: to another. 1164 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 13: Certainly easier to get to christ Jitch by air from 1165 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 13: the White Ghatto, that's for sure. 1166 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 2: What about Jetstar they're doing some international stuff as well. 1167 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 2: Is it one of those things where they're going to battle, 1168 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,320 Speaker 2: someone's going to pay the price and you're going to 1169 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 2: be back to square one where you think this is sustainable? 1170 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:53,399 Speaker 9: A couple of things. 1171 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,320 Speaker 13: One, I think certainly there's this competition, which is a 1172 00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 13: wonderful thing. But I do think they wouldn't have made 1173 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,400 Speaker 13: the decision to put an A through twenty on that 1174 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 13: route if there wasn't the demand. So I suspect that 1175 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,799 Speaker 13: they've both seen the opportunity and believe that it will grow. 1176 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,839 Speaker 2: And do you think it's a two way demand? People 1177 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 2: will come to your place and spend I believe so I. 1178 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:20,400 Speaker 13: Think that's already happening. The two economies of Canterbury and 1179 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 13: the White Kado have a lot in common and complimentary, 1180 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 13: so I do see that this will grow and grow. 1181 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,359 Speaker 2: Good stuff, Don fly well, today's on the inaugural flight. 1182 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 2: Don good the one Kato Chamber of Commerce CEO five 1183 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 2: minutes away from eight become a born New zealandor Kiwi. 1184 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 2: My daughter was born while we're in the UK. We've 1185 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,880 Speaker 2: always known and pressed on her that if she has 1186 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 2: a child overseas, it won't have New Zealand cederships. That 1187 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,400 Speaker 2: them are the rules. Might we had two children overseas. 1188 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 2: Everyone knows that if you're a Kiwi by descent they 1189 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 2: cannot have. Of course they do. That's my point. My 1190 00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 2: point is there was nothing new on that, but apart 1191 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 2: from the fact that a semi well known person went 1192 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,360 Speaker 2: and the media like moths to a flame off they 1193 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 2: went Virgin. Speaking of flying Virgin Australia. I like this, 1194 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,400 Speaker 2: but I own a Maltese and my Maltese cost US 1195 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,360 Speaker 2: three hundred dollars yesterday because the Maldese the day before 1196 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 2: was chasing Katie. Maltese, in case you don't know, form 1197 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 2: a bond with a person within the house, and that 1198 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,440 Speaker 2: particular person is Katie, despite the fact the dog was 1199 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 2: the daughter's. So the dog looked at the daughter and 1200 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,040 Speaker 2: looked at Katie and went, nah, hang with Katie. So anyway, 1201 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 2: so the dog hangs with Katie. Problem is, part of 1202 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 2: our house has wooden floors, and the dog sort of 1203 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 2: sits there and suddenly realizes Katie isn't in the immediate vicinity, 1204 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 2: in panics and starts running around the house. What happened 1205 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 2: two days ago. Was the dog came sliding around the corner, 1206 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,200 Speaker 2: you know how dog lose the rear end came slightly 1207 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 2: around the corner and here just so it went around 1208 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 2: the corner room like that, and so something happened to 1209 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 2: the dog, probably an injury. So then Maltese, of you 1210 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 2: know Maltese as they just then pack a stand sad 1211 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 2: and start shaking and they're pathetic. And so then we 1212 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 2: thought is it going to come right? Is it not 1213 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 2: going to come right? So it sort of came right. 1214 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 2: Then he thought, oh well we'll cancel the bit. So 1215 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 2: we had an eva. So we canceled a bit. 1216 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 8: Then you net up a bet. You went on the 1217 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 8: way out in the back to get the shotgun. 1218 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 22: Mo. 1219 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 2: So then we the next day, dog was shaking again. 1220 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 2: We go down to the bed. By the time we 1221 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,919 Speaker 2: get to the dogs fine. Three hundred dollars later after 1222 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 2: a big examination, dog's fine, happy ass. That's malteseus for you. 1223 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 2: Lessen than that is, never buy a Maltese. We love 1224 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 2: the Maltese. Anyway, I've told you about Maltesa. Unfortunately, what 1225 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 2: I was going to tell you about is Virgin Australia 1226 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 2: and flying with animals. And I think because I own 1227 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 2: a Malteseer, that's the sort of dog you can fly with. 1228 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 2: But Virgin Australia is starting the ability for you to 1229 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 2: take your dog or your cat on the plane. And 1230 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 2: I'll tell you how to book it, because if you're 1231 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 2: going on holidays, you'll be regretful you didn't book with 1232 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,800 Speaker 2: Virgin to go flying around the world. Jacob Douglas, great story. 1233 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 2: I'll introduce you to him in just a couple of 1234 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 2: moments after the news, which is next. 1235 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 1: Setting the agenda and talking the big issues. The mic 1236 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 1: conting break best with Alveda, Retirement, Communities, Life your Way, 1237 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:04,720 Speaker 1: New togs hed b. 1238 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 2: You just had the American national anthem in the halls 1239 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 2: of Windsor Castle and the King has been speaking. 1240 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 23: Our countries are working together in support of crucial diplomatic efforts, 1241 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 23: not least which was the President is your own personal 1242 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:25,439 Speaker 23: commitment to finding solutions to some of the world's most 1243 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 23: intractable conflicts in order to secure peace. 1244 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,919 Speaker 2: Trump has a reply, will give you a bit of better. 1245 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 11: It's driven later on. 1246 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 2: In the program meantime at seven past eight. Another name 1247 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 2: to add to our collection of the young New Zealand 1248 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 2: motor races going place, and Jacob Douglas competes in the 1249 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 2: USF Pro two thousand circuit in America. Basically it's the 1250 00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 2: road to Windy. His seasons just rapily finished fifth over 1251 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 2: or he had a win and eight podiums and Jacob 1252 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 2: Douglas as well as Jacob morning to you, good morning Mike, 1253 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 2: very well and did good to meet you. Sixteen years old. 1254 00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 2: You were when you left for Indy as a move 1255 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 2: as a thing. How big a deal was that? 1256 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, no, it was a pretty big deal. In 1257 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 10: the moment, it was really really cool, and I was 1258 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 10: kind of just, you know, another key we going off 1259 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 10: overuseas to chase my goals in sports. But now that 1260 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 10: I look back at it, I feel, you know, I 1261 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 10: see how crazy it really was moving away to America 1262 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 10: at sixteen on my own. But it was a great experience, 1263 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 10: and yeah, I loved every minute of it. 1264 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 2: Is each year getting better and easier with experience, Yes, definitely. 1265 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 10: Yeah, I meet more people over there, get to grips 1266 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 10: with everything, and then of course as I'm getting older 1267 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 10: there's more things I can do. It makes it easier. 1268 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 10: This year, for example, I could rent a car, which 1269 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 10: was the first time, whereas other years have hit uber so, 1270 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 10: so that made it a lot easier. 1271 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 2: Just talk to it for non motor racing followers. The 1272 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 2: USF Pro two thousand. What sort of cow are we 1273 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,680 Speaker 2: talking about it? It looks to me like a single seat, 1274 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 2: like an F two single seater. But you explain it 1275 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 2: and how far off the big dance are you? 1276 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 10: Yeah, so it's a single seater. It just looks like 1277 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 10: a junior if one car, if you like. We're probably 1278 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 10: about about little of a ten seconds off off IndyCar 1279 01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 10: and we yeah, we have kind of all the bells 1280 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 10: and whistles. I guess they go pretty quick. We get 1281 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 10: up to around two hundred and sixty kilometers at the 1282 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 10: end of the straightaways, and yeah, we go pretty quick. 1283 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 2: The is it directly connected to the Indie circuit? I mean, 1284 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,000 Speaker 2: are you on the circuits and the ovals and the straits? 1285 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 18: Yeah? 1286 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 10: So we we have six out of our eight rounds 1287 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 10: are with IndyCar, like on the same weekends, on the 1288 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 10: same tracks we we race on ims. So on the 1289 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 10: Indianapolis Motor Speedway, we don't go on the oval there, 1290 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,240 Speaker 10: just on the road pust but all of our tracks 1291 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 10: that we drive at all indicar circuits and. 1292 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 2: Yet your story so you I'm as Sue mean, like 1293 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 2: everybody else in this country in a motorsport generally started 1294 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 2: in a cat. 1295 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 10: Yep, that's right. Yeah, I started out in in a 1296 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 10: go cart at Cars Road and Horsal christ Church. 1297 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 2: How was it immediate? How did that? Is there a 1298 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 2: family connection to karting or you just thought you'd like karting? 1299 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 2: And when did the magic kick in? 1300 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 10: Yeah? So my dad was always into all things kind 1301 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 10: of motorsport. He did a little bit of racing himself 1302 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 10: back in the day, but definitely there was nothing right 1303 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,400 Speaker 10: home about And yeah, so I started out on a 1304 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,920 Speaker 10: motorbike and then we went out to the go kart 1305 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 10: track one day to have a look and someone offered 1306 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 10: me a go and it kind of all went from there. 1307 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 2: Fantastic and it felt natural right from the start. 1308 01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 10: I was actually pretty pretty average to start with, so 1309 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 10: there was a lot of improvement, but I got there eventually, 1310 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 10: so I wouldn't say I was a natural from the 1311 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 10: get go. 1312 01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 2: Did you have mentors or people who advised you? I mean, 1313 01:02:59,000 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 2: how did you get good? 1314 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 10: Yeah? I had I had some mentors I had and 1315 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 10: go karting, Matt Hamilton and Tiffany Chittenden, who helps me 1316 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,720 Speaker 10: out a lot. They helped the likes of Marcus Armstrong 1317 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 10: who's an Indy Carr at the moment. Yeah, they are 1318 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,840 Speaker 10: great people and help me a lot along the way 1319 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 10: and still do at the moment. 1320 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 2: Tiffany, Tiffany is amazing. Isn't she huge? I mean, Lord 1321 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 2: knows how many people she's helped over the years. So 1322 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 2: from karting to what. 1323 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 10: Cutting and then into Formula Ford locally around New Zealand? 1324 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,720 Speaker 2: Is that worth it? Somebody offered me a drive and 1325 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 2: a Formula Forward the other day. I've never been in one. 1326 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:36,280 Speaker 16: Is it? 1327 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 2: Would that be the thrill of my life? 1328 01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:40,640 Speaker 10: I reckon you should do it. I think it would 1329 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,760 Speaker 10: be pretty cool that the old cars, but but they're 1330 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 10: good fun. It's got a four speed HVATN and gearbox 1331 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,120 Speaker 10: and they're pretty tricky to drive. But yeah, I reckon 1332 01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 10: you should do it. 1333 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 2: They look they look tricky from Formula Forward. 1334 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 10: To what and then into Formula for in America. 1335 01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 2: Wow, so you skipped the eighty sixers and all that 1336 01:03:59,480 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 2: sort of stuff. 1337 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 10: Yeah, I did it. I was I was kind of 1338 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 10: in a tricky tricky time period because it was right 1339 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 10: in the middle of COVID, so a lot of the 1340 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,360 Speaker 10: things in New Zealand got shut down, so I kind 1341 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,680 Speaker 10: of had to make them move over quite early. 1342 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 2: Okay, listen, I want to talk about the money and 1343 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 2: how well that's gone as well in just a couple 1344 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 2: of moments. Twelve minutes past eight, Jacob Douglas more shortly the. 1345 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 1: Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News. 1346 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 2: TALKSP Talks at Me. Sixteen past eight Jacob Douglas is 1347 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 2: we as part of the USF Pro two thousand circuit. Jacob, 1348 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,880 Speaker 2: the team you're in pepst am I pronouncing that it's 1349 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,920 Speaker 2: a famous racing name. Are they good people? 1350 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 10: Yeah, they're great people. They do a lot for their 1351 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:46,040 Speaker 10: drivers and for the sport and helping out Yeah, people 1352 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:46,720 Speaker 10: as much as they can. 1353 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 2: The school thing, when you left to go to Indy 1354 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 2: at sixteen, where were you at school? How did you 1355 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 2: handle that with your parents? Did you have qualifications? 1356 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:54,240 Speaker 10: All that that? 1357 01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 2: I mean, what was thinking? What was the thinking? 1358 01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 10: Yes, I was at Chriss College and I within year 1359 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:05,840 Speaker 10: eleven and I yeah, left school and I kind of 1360 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 10: had a year off school and then I enrolled in 1361 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 10: online school, which was a tricky I was kind of 1362 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 10: just doing it on my own over there with no 1363 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,440 Speaker 10: one kind of forcing me to do it, so it 1364 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 10: took a while to get it done. 1365 01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 2: So you got twelve year, twelve and thirteen, so you 1366 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 2: got in CEA or university, the entrance or whatever it 1367 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 2: was you were chasing. 1368 01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:27,520 Speaker 10: Ah, yeah, that's right. 1369 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So what's now that you're at this USF 1370 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,440 Speaker 2: Pro two thousand, what's the plan for the next season? 1371 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, so next year I'm heading back to do another 1372 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 10: year of USF Pro with a goal to win the 1373 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:45,200 Speaker 10: championship and the scholarship into Indie Next, which is one 1374 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 10: level below IndyCar. So then all goes well, we'll win 1375 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:52,840 Speaker 10: that scholarship, move into Indie next, and hopefully then into IndyCar. 1376 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 2: So Indi next is Callum Hedge Liam Skeets there currently 1377 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 2: in that side. But where's the money fit into it? 1378 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 2: How hard is money and how hard is the hustle? 1379 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it's a problem every driver faces unfortunately, 1380 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,560 Speaker 10: the funding side of it. Yeah, I got to work 1381 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:14,480 Speaker 10: hard to find sponsors and stuff. We have a unique 1382 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 10: way of trying to fund my motorsport career. So we 1383 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 10: have a company called JAD and Properties, and JAD and 1384 01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,600 Speaker 10: Properties is our funding pathway from my career. So my 1385 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,080 Speaker 10: parents come from a background and property. Yeah, so it's 1386 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,280 Speaker 10: a way for us to be able to offer a 1387 01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,840 Speaker 10: return on the money invested into JA and Properties, with 1388 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 10: the remaining profit going toward my motorsport career and helping 1389 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,720 Speaker 10: on the road to IndyCar And is that working? Yeah, 1390 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 10: it is working, and it's a way we can we 1391 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,160 Speaker 10: don't have to ask for something for nothing, which is 1392 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 10: a lot of what sponsorship is unfortunately. So we can 1393 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,560 Speaker 10: offer a return on the money with the investor making 1394 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 10: someone on top of that. 1395 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 2: So, like all of you guys, your parents are there 1396 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 2: and they're fully supportive and they're along for the ride. 1397 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, my parents are amazing. They've always been supportive of 1398 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 10: me since they won, both my mum and my dad. Yeah, 1399 01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 10: they work really hard to give me the opportunity. So 1400 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 10: I'm really grateful for that. 1401 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 2: How close to Dixon McLoughlin those guys, I mean, do 1402 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 2: you do you share the paddick? I mean are you 1403 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 2: in there or is there you know, is there any 1404 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:18,120 Speaker 2: sort of contact there or not? 1405 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,440 Speaker 10: Yeah, definitely they're really great guys. All three of the 1406 01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,400 Speaker 10: keywis over this are both Scott's and Marcus. I go 1407 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 10: to the same gym as Scott Dixon actually, so I 1408 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,640 Speaker 10: see him every now and then and occasionally occasionally get 1409 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 10: a workout and together, which is really cool. And then 1410 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,880 Speaker 10: Scott McLaughlin is a great guy. He offers a lot 1411 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 10: of guidance, a lot of advice, is always there to 1412 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:44,400 Speaker 10: Linda Linda Eyre whenever, whenever I need, so it's always 1413 01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,640 Speaker 10: cool when I catch up with him as much as 1414 01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:47,960 Speaker 10: they can on the race weekends. 1415 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,400 Speaker 2: No one seems to be a prick and motorsport do 1416 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 2: they No? 1417 01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,280 Speaker 10: No, Yeah, everyone's great people and they're all there to help, 1418 01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:56,160 Speaker 10: which is really cool. 1419 01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 2: Well, good on you. And so between now and the 1420 01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,240 Speaker 2: next season, what do you do? You just hang in 1421 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:01,440 Speaker 2: New Zealand? Do you drive a lot? 1422 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 10: I drive as much as they can, So we'll be 1423 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,560 Speaker 10: out in a go cart at Cars Road hopefully twice 1424 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,280 Speaker 10: a week. And then I own a one of the 1425 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,400 Speaker 10: old model Tier risk cars, so I'll drive that out 1426 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,320 Speaker 10: at Royal Puner. So yeah, trying to stay sharp. 1427 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 2: Fantastic go well mate, and I wish you all the 1428 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,880 Speaker 2: very best and we'll stay in touch. Jacob Douglas, who 1429 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,439 Speaker 2: was part of the USF Pro two thousand and yet 1430 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,280 Speaker 2: another qwe flying the flag internationally and we wish them 1431 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,559 Speaker 2: all the very best. 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So 1449 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,280 Speaker 2: read the label take only as director, but give About 1450 01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,519 Speaker 2: Health the call. They're on eight hundred triple nine three 1451 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,440 Speaker 2: oh nine eight hundred triple nine three o nine online 1452 01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:27,519 Speaker 2: they will do the business at about health dot co 1453 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 2: dot nz. Use the code breakfast for a free gift 1454 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,360 Speaker 2: as well, because they're nice people like that, be going 1455 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,799 Speaker 2: to use the code breakfast. So it's the healthy aging 1456 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,160 Speaker 2: and Deep Sleep pack helping you stay well and stay 1457 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 2: you From About Health asking Mike, I hope you well. 1458 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,040 Speaker 2: My name is Jacob Douglas. He goes on. I want 1459 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,200 Speaker 2: to introduce myself. If there's an opportunity, I'd love to 1460 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:48,640 Speaker 2: do an interview to tell you a bit about my 1461 01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,880 Speaker 2: story and my plans going forward. Thanks for your time. 1462 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:52,840 Speaker 2: I look forward to hearing from you. I wrote back 1463 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:54,519 Speaker 2: in the early hours of the morning. And that's how 1464 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,400 Speaker 2: these things work. A great interview about motorsport, Mike. Another 1465 01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,960 Speaker 2: great interview. A great interview Jacob Douglas. Well, I'm amazed 1466 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 2: at how well New Zealand produces so many competent and articulate, 1467 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,719 Speaker 2: world class motorsport competitors. Another one to watch and support. 1468 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,720 Speaker 2: Thank you, Phil. Another young key who's doing well on 1469 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:15,599 Speaker 2: the world stage of motorsport. Another amazing and articulate young 1470 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:19,320 Speaker 2: motor racer. We should bottle these guys. Phenomenal Mike listening 1471 01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,160 Speaker 2: to another fine young man. Why don't they do a 1472 01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:26,040 Speaker 2: study on useless appearance versus good parents? It's not bad. 1473 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,240 Speaker 2: What did Trump have to say about the King? 1474 01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,760 Speaker 22: Well tell you that I just stood in line and 1475 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,880 Speaker 22: shook about one hundred and fifty hands, and the King 1476 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,040 Speaker 22: knew every single person and every single company, and some 1477 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:44,400 Speaker 22: of them had bad names like XYZHQ three, and he 1478 01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:46,320 Speaker 22: knew every one of them for at least I think 1479 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,040 Speaker 22: he did because nobody was complaining. 1480 01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,880 Speaker 2: I was very impressed with that, because he invites the 1481 01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,200 Speaker 2: same people at dinner all the time. But nice compliment. 1482 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:56,559 Speaker 2: Does he like William? 1483 01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,639 Speaker 14: I just want to say that his Majesty is also 1484 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 14: reads the remarkable son and his Royal Highness, Prince of 1485 01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,519 Speaker 14: Wales really amazing. 1486 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,479 Speaker 24: We've gotten to know you, and I think you're going 1487 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 24: to have an unbelievable success in future. Malaney and I 1488 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:18,640 Speaker 24: are delayed to visit again with Prince William and to 1489 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,800 Speaker 24: see her Royal Highness, Princess. 1490 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,719 Speaker 14: Catherine, so radiant and so healthy, so beautiful. It's really 1491 01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:25,479 Speaker 14: great honor. 1492 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:25,880 Speaker 12: Thank you? 1493 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:28,800 Speaker 2: Is he creeping? When you got to the super creep 1494 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,280 Speaker 2: When you got off the helicopter, he was met by 1495 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,280 Speaker 2: William and Kate and he apparently went up to her 1496 01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 2: and said, you're beautiful, You're really beautiful. I assume he 1497 01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,160 Speaker 2: meant it in just a nice way. But I don't 1498 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,000 Speaker 2: know how you handle that. And I've got to say 1499 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,320 Speaker 2: to be honest that you know how big a fan 1500 01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 2: I am of Princess Kate. But she was completely and 1501 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:50,599 Speaker 2: utterly out dressed today by Milania. I don't know who 1502 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,960 Speaker 2: does Mlania as styling, but whoever it is, is the 1503 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,880 Speaker 2: best in the world, literally the best in the world. 1504 01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,960 Speaker 2: Because Kate normally is on point. But today she turned 1505 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,200 Speaker 2: up in a bird the type color which is very, 1506 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,840 Speaker 2: very in so there's no criticism there. But she had 1507 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:07,840 Speaker 2: what looked like a small cake on her head for 1508 01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,360 Speaker 2: a hat, whereas Milania turns up on those things look 1509 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:16,520 Speaker 2: like sold the dishes. They're incredible. She looks incredible everything 1510 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,719 Speaker 2: she does. When she turned up on that trench yesterday 1511 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 2: and she walked off the plane, if you look closely, 1512 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 2: she's wearing a spectacular pair of boots, and when you're 1513 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,839 Speaker 2: dealing with those two, money's no object, Styling's no object, 1514 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,839 Speaker 2: access to fashion is no object. But Cate got completely 1515 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,680 Speaker 2: and utterly out dressed by Milania. Today. No one is 1516 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,560 Speaker 2: more spectacular sartorially in the world as far as I 1517 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 2: can work out on the public stage than Milania Trump. 1518 01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,280 Speaker 8: Well, I mean, whoever's dressing her has all that practice 1519 01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:47,799 Speaker 8: on all the doubles of course. 1520 01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,680 Speaker 2: Well that's true. I mean do we know that that's 1521 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,360 Speaker 2: the real one or just one of the couple. 1522 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,400 Speaker 8: It's hard to see your face underneath the hat. 1523 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:55,439 Speaker 2: I still don't have time to tell you about the 1524 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,080 Speaker 2: Virgin pet thing. I want to tell you how you do. 1525 01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:59,040 Speaker 8: It's got another half hour. 1526 01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. It's just it's going to take off, 1527 01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:04,920 Speaker 2: believe me. I mean it's been in Europe for years, 1528 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,640 Speaker 2: of course, but it's only starting to come before you 1529 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,640 Speaker 2: know it. Every plane you're on is going to have 1530 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,320 Speaker 2: a dog and a cat on board. So if you 1531 01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,240 Speaker 2: don't like the idea, you get used to it because 1532 01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,040 Speaker 2: the world is a changing. Let's go to rod and 1533 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,720 Speaker 2: some more of this royal pomp and pageantry. 1534 01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,320 Speaker 25: After the news which is next to you with News Talk, Seque, 1535 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,960 Speaker 25: The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know, 1536 01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:35,759 Speaker 25: The mic Asking, Breakfast with Rainthrover leading by example, News Togs, deadb. 1537 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,680 Speaker 2: Mike looking for a top quality Italian hair dryer? What 1538 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,880 Speaker 2: was the brand you previously mentioned? Reese Gammer Gama is 1539 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:46,639 Speaker 2: what you're after? Never look back. Absolutely brilliant, very small, 1540 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 2: very Italian, very powerful, just absolutely brilliant. Twenty three minutes away. 1541 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:55,400 Speaker 17: From nine International correspondence with ends an Eye Insurance, peace 1542 01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:56,920 Speaker 17: of mind for New Zealand business. 1543 01:13:58,000 --> 01:13:59,680 Speaker 2: Right to the UK We go, Rod, a little bit 1544 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:00,200 Speaker 2: of morning to you. 1545 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:01,320 Speaker 11: Come on in, Mike. 1546 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:06,120 Speaker 2: Now, Trump, the dinner, the pomp, the pageantry. It's I mean, 1547 01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,920 Speaker 2: how gripped is Britain by this as an exercise? Do 1548 01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:10,280 Speaker 2: you think? 1549 01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:10,720 Speaker 26: Well? 1550 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,920 Speaker 11: I don't think you or people are terribly gripped one 1551 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:14,840 Speaker 11: way or the other. I mean, there are something like 1552 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,880 Speaker 11: five thousand protesters in London. Fortunately Trump isn't going anywhere 1553 01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,800 Speaker 11: near London, but they're all saying, what a ghastly band, 1554 01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:23,479 Speaker 11: what a ghastly man. The rest of the country is 1555 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,439 Speaker 11: just watching on slightly bemusedly. The only person this is 1556 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 11: for is Donald Trump. We are flinging every bit of 1557 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:35,000 Speaker 11: royal regalia at him that we can in order to 1558 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,800 Speaker 11: be in order to curry favor. And it seems to 1559 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,920 Speaker 11: work work last time on his first state visit. It 1560 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,120 Speaker 11: seems to be working now. 1561 01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,640 Speaker 2: It talks about the power of the monarchy, doesn't it. 1562 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:47,519 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what Charles thinks of Trump. 1563 01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,280 Speaker 2: I can guess what Charles thinks of Trump. But you 1564 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:54,320 Speaker 2: cannot underestimate the power of soft diplomacy. 1565 01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,000 Speaker 11: No, you can't. Well, and we have that, you know, 1566 01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,320 Speaker 11: we have that right. Family is many people want to 1567 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,920 Speaker 11: do away with and when they're not making friends with 1568 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,680 Speaker 11: Jeffrey Epstein, and they're very useful to us. And you know, 1569 01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:13,280 Speaker 11: the rough families. It's had a rough ten or fifteen years, 1570 01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,800 Speaker 11: you know, ever since I suppose really longer than that. 1571 01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:20,879 Speaker 11: But that's a Princess Diana. It's it's it's had its problems, 1572 01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:23,560 Speaker 11: but at times like this it does show you that, 1573 01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,640 Speaker 11: you know, it's a valuable for something. And so we 1574 01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:32,440 Speaker 11: erry Trump to Winsor Castle. We give him state banquets. 1575 01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:37,200 Speaker 11: We have a fly pasted with the red arrows. Everything 1576 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:38,720 Speaker 11: we can possibly fling it him. 1577 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 2: We fling once he leaves Windsor is going to go 1578 01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,680 Speaker 2: to chickens and he's going to meet Key Starmer. Is 1579 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,639 Speaker 2: Starmer is desperate for good news and good headlines, of course, 1580 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,760 Speaker 2: so he'll be welcoming that, does he get I mean, 1581 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 2: all this take money that's flying about, is that material? 1582 01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:52,920 Speaker 2: Is that real? 1583 01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,280 Speaker 11: I don't know. It seems to be at the moment 1584 01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,439 Speaker 11: when I first heard the figures that were being talked about, 1585 01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,479 Speaker 11: we're talking about something in the regions billion quid for 1586 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,640 Speaker 11: some of the text stuff and these and deals on 1587 01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:08,320 Speaker 11: AI and high tech investment, which will of course go 1588 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:13,280 Speaker 11: probably to the southeast of the country mainly. But an 1589 01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,880 Speaker 11: enormous philip at a time for the economy when the 1590 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,439 Speaker 11: economy is pretty much on the rocks, and when Kars 1591 01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,720 Speaker 11: Starmer is desperate for some good news. So whatever the 1592 01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:26,160 Speaker 11: reality of it, we will certainly be played out as being, 1593 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:30,760 Speaker 11: you know, an enormous gift and a consequence of Sir 1594 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:35,439 Speaker 11: Kir Starmer and Peter Mandelson's and David Lammy's diplomatic efforts 1595 01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,880 Speaker 11: with the Trump administration which have paid off, you know, 1596 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,479 Speaker 11: let's not take it away from them. They have managed 1597 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,280 Speaker 11: to get on the right side of Trump, and Trump 1598 01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:45,240 Speaker 11: is an anglifier. 1599 01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,679 Speaker 2: Yes he is. He does seem to genuinely enjoy himself 1600 01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,720 Speaker 2: having said that the steel tariffs of which you're at 1601 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,439 Speaker 2: twenty five percent, which was good compared to some countries, 1602 01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:56,080 Speaker 2: I think you were hoping for zero zero's off. If 1603 01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,480 Speaker 2: that doesn't come to pass, I mean that the relationship, 1604 01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,639 Speaker 2: the whole terror of thing did. What do you do, Yes, 1605 01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:01,519 Speaker 2: grinham Barrett. 1606 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:03,679 Speaker 11: I think we grin and bear it. It's still better 1607 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,280 Speaker 11: than what the use getting. That sort of matters to 1608 01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,000 Speaker 11: us right now. This is the way England has viewed 1609 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,400 Speaker 11: its history for the last one thousand years. Are we 1610 01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,880 Speaker 11: doing better than the French and on that particular, that 1611 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,880 Speaker 11: particular issue, than we are? 1612 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:17,760 Speaker 26: No. 1613 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,920 Speaker 11: It looks as if the plea for no Taus at 1614 01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:27,800 Speaker 11: all has indeed been roundly dismissed. More importantly is what 1615 01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,639 Speaker 11: is what perhaps Starmer will have to say to Trump 1616 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:39,080 Speaker 11: on the issues of Ukraine and Israel and Russia. It 1617 01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:43,639 Speaker 11: is it will be tricky raising those problems, and also, 1618 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,640 Speaker 11: of course what he's got to say to about Mandleson, 1619 01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:47,479 Speaker 11: which will have to there will have to be some 1620 01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,960 Speaker 11: sort of exchange over Mandlessoon, which brings you into the 1621 01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:51,799 Speaker 11: Epstein business. 1622 01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:53,920 Speaker 2: Yes it does. You have a good weekken Rod will 1623 01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,000 Speaker 2: catch up with you soon if you're not up on 1624 01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:57,760 Speaker 2: the India. Just quit a couple of quick things out 1625 01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,920 Speaker 2: of Brittany. Iratrian Blake was successful in court. He was 1626 01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:02,680 Speaker 2: one of the one in one outside. There's none and 1627 01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:06,280 Speaker 2: none out so far, so that's turning into the predictable bust. 1628 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:08,760 Speaker 2: I will come back because I don't have time at 1629 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,800 Speaker 2: the moment. But the Scottish Parliament has passed a new 1630 01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:16,080 Speaker 2: law the removal of not proven. They have three things 1631 01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,600 Speaker 2: in a court in Scotland. One is guilty, one is 1632 01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:22,080 Speaker 2: not guilty and one is not proven. And they finally, 1633 01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,800 Speaker 2: after years of arguing about it, changed that. But when 1634 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,559 Speaker 2: I get time, I will come back to that. Because Mike, 1635 01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,679 Speaker 2: a bit of hypocrisy from the king alienated his brother, 1636 01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,960 Speaker 2: then welcomes another Epstein friend lost any support they clang 1637 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,680 Speaker 2: onto in this household. Well, you're reading it completely wrong 1638 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,880 Speaker 2: and in a way you're so exercised about it. I 1639 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,160 Speaker 2: saw a protest as saying exactly the same thing from 1640 01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,120 Speaker 2: the streets of London yesterday. What you've got to understand 1641 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,680 Speaker 2: is the president is the president. You know, Andrew's just 1642 01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,920 Speaker 2: a Dufas who hangs around the family and is a 1643 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,840 Speaker 2: bit of a spare royal. The president is the duly 1644 01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,439 Speaker 2: elected representative of the United States of America. You may 1645 01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,519 Speaker 2: not like him, you may not like the way he's behaved, 1646 01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,479 Speaker 2: allegedly or not, but the fact is he's the most 1647 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:02,960 Speaker 2: powerful man in the world and you've got to deal 1648 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,519 Speaker 2: with them. It's as simple as that. And that's where 1649 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,000 Speaker 2: you get to. A poll for Old Kia came out 1650 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,160 Speaker 2: in Wales. They're having a vote in Wales next year. 1651 01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,840 Speaker 2: On this poll out this morning has the government the 1652 01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,519 Speaker 2: Labor Party in absolute diastrates. It's a you go of 1653 01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,400 Speaker 2: poll thirty percent to the local party. The the Cumbery 1654 01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:21,160 Speaker 2: Party plaied Cremery Reform is up four to twenty nine. 1655 01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:25,040 Speaker 2: Labour have dropped another four. They're down at fourteen, only 1656 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:29,280 Speaker 2: beating the Tories to eleven. So Wales looks like it 1657 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,920 Speaker 2: might get flipped in May next year unless things changed 1658 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,439 Speaker 2: dramatically seventeen to two. 1659 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:39,280 Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard 1660 01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:40,280 Speaker 1: By News talks. 1661 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,439 Speaker 2: That be Mike, what are your thoughts on the judge 1662 01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,160 Speaker 2: giving the confiscated gam patch back to the second gang member. Well, 1663 01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,800 Speaker 2: my thoughts are apart from the obvious, which I won't 1664 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,599 Speaker 2: need to state because they're obvious, is that I'm proud 1665 01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,800 Speaker 2: of Mark Mitchell for making the statement he did, because 1666 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,519 Speaker 2: Paul Goldsmith has run for cover and I know it's tricky, 1667 01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,400 Speaker 2: I get it, and I know that Judith has had 1668 01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,760 Speaker 2: a word with everybody. And you can't go around, you know, 1669 01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,840 Speaker 2: sizing the judiciary, but get you. I wouldn't be a 1670 01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:05,800 Speaker 2: politician if I was a politician, If I was the 1671 01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,960 Speaker 2: Minister of Police, the Minister of Justice in a government 1672 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,760 Speaker 2: that said we were going to do certain things in 1673 01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:12,880 Speaker 2: the crime and justice area. And I was watching that, 1674 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:17,200 Speaker 2: I couldn't live with myself without saying something. And Judith 1675 01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,000 Speaker 2: can come and yell at me all she wants, you know, 1676 01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:22,120 Speaker 2: otherwise you lose your integrity. Surely, isn't that the answer? 1677 01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,920 Speaker 2: So well done Mark Mitchell on that Mike Morning, in 1678 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:26,960 Speaker 2: case no one else has reported it, which they haven't. 1679 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,120 Speaker 2: Well done, Brian, and this is why the listenership of 1680 01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,840 Speaker 2: the show is so valuable. Tesla have released the update 1681 01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,360 Speaker 2: for the FSD to New Zealand customers this morning. As 1682 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,240 Speaker 2: of eight thirty this morning, so the full support of 1683 01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:41,920 Speaker 2: driving supervised, not that you might read supervised. Maybe you 1684 01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:43,600 Speaker 2: read supervised or not. Maybe you want to put it 1685 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,439 Speaker 2: into your car and just you know, cross your arms 1686 01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,080 Speaker 2: and pretend to go to sleep, and next thing you know, 1687 01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,680 Speaker 2: you're in a poll. But there you go. Eleven four 1688 01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,559 Speaker 2: hundred dollars. That's the optional extra. As far as an 1689 01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:57,880 Speaker 2: optional extra goes, eleven four hundred dollars is how many 1690 01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,639 Speaker 2: people you think are going to get it as a percentage? 1691 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,880 Speaker 2: Do a percentage, So of the number of cars sold 1692 01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,600 Speaker 2: in code, what percentage of people? Add another eleven and 1693 01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,439 Speaker 2: a half thousand dollars to the price of a Tesla 1694 01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,840 Speaker 2: and want it. You can subscribe if you wanted one 1695 01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:12,560 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty nine dollars a month. That takes you 1696 01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,439 Speaker 2: to basically six years, which is probably longer than you're 1697 01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,200 Speaker 2: going to hold the car anyway, So work out the numbers. 1698 01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:22,840 Speaker 2: But I would guess next to no one I'll be 1699 01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,799 Speaker 2: interested with whether I press front actually speak of what cars. 1700 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:27,759 Speaker 2: I don't want to bore you with my own personal problems. 1701 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,760 Speaker 2: But yesterday I went down to the garage to start 1702 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:33,800 Speaker 2: a car that I particularly like, and I drive it 1703 01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:37,439 Speaker 2: periodically and it wouldn't start, and I knew it was 1704 01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,080 Speaker 2: sort of maybe maybe not going to start because I thought, 1705 01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:41,880 Speaker 2: I don't drive this car enough. And if you don't 1706 01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,240 Speaker 2: drive a car enough, what happens is basically it dies. 1707 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,439 Speaker 8: You can get a special battery for that, can't you interesting? 1708 01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:50,840 Speaker 2: You should say that, Glenn. So when this happened, I 1709 01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,679 Speaker 2: the last couple of times it went and it started 1710 01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:55,160 Speaker 2: up in a drive it round, but just not enough. 1711 01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,880 Speaker 2: So yesterday I rang my mate Max, who works at 1712 01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,640 Speaker 2: Continental Cars, and I said, Max, do you have a 1713 01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,040 Speaker 2: person who comes around and jump starts cars? And he goes, yes, 1714 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,560 Speaker 2: I do. And I said, just one quick question. Is 1715 01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:09,000 Speaker 2: the battery in the front or the back? Because it 1716 01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:10,840 Speaker 2: was jammed into a car park in a building. And 1717 01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,000 Speaker 2: he goes, oh, you in town? I said yes I am. 1718 01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:14,840 Speaker 2: He goes, oh, come run see you now. Now there's 1719 01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,000 Speaker 2: a car salesman. Right, there's a car sales me. He 1720 01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:18,880 Speaker 2: owes me nothing. He doesn't have to come round and 1721 01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,840 Speaker 2: solve my problem. He's not a mechanic. He doesn't specialize 1722 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,240 Speaker 2: in idiots who don't start their car often enough, and 1723 01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,200 Speaker 2: I'll solve your problem. He's not even in that area. 1724 01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:27,479 Speaker 2: He's just a car sales and me. He said, oh, 1725 01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,640 Speaker 2: come around right now, And ten minutes later he was 1726 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,519 Speaker 2: run at my house and you brought this special thing 1727 01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:32,680 Speaker 2: and I wish I had the name of it in 1728 01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,200 Speaker 2: front of me. But it's a jumpstarter, obviously, but it's 1729 01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,800 Speaker 2: a tiny little thing that does one hundred and twenty 1730 01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,760 Speaker 2: starts for your average car before it needs recharging. In fact, 1731 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,519 Speaker 2: if you go to recharge a car and jump it 1732 01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,120 Speaker 2: and you leave it on the car for forty seconds, 1733 01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,400 Speaker 2: it'll recharge the thing itself. So it's fantastic. Anyway he starts, 1734 01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,800 Speaker 2: my car just comes around just because he's a good bloke. 1735 01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:53,680 Speaker 2: How good a service is that? And what do you 1736 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,759 Speaker 2: think as a result of that, I'm gonna feel towards 1737 01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,120 Speaker 2: him and his company? Guess what I'm gonna feel good 1738 01:22:58,120 --> 01:22:59,920 Speaker 2: about it? Aren't I? Anyway? So I got my car 1739 01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:01,800 Speaker 2: and I drive halfway to South Auckland, all the way 1740 01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:03,920 Speaker 2: down to Drury brom on the motorway and all the 1741 01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:04,320 Speaker 2: way back. 1742 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,680 Speaker 8: But I think you need one of those batteries like 1743 01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:11,000 Speaker 8: my mum now has in her car because the last 1744 01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,080 Speaker 8: time she took her car and for a service, the 1745 01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:17,360 Speaker 8: mechanics said she's not really driving this very much. She 1746 01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:20,439 Speaker 8: plug it in and now it's just some some kind 1747 01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,479 Speaker 8: of different battery that does that holds its charge. 1748 01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,080 Speaker 2: You know, not a lithium, but I don't know. Well 1749 01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,240 Speaker 2: it's probably If it is, then you can plug it in. 1750 01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:29,680 Speaker 2: And then some cars come with a plug in. 1751 01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,280 Speaker 8: No, no, it doesn't plug ins. 1752 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,280 Speaker 2: It's not an electric car, but it plugs into the battery, 1753 01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:34,160 Speaker 2: and a lot of cars do that. 1754 01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,320 Speaker 8: I'm just telling you the battery doesn't plug in. It's 1755 01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:41,240 Speaker 8: just a special battery that lasts longer between uses. And 1756 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,200 Speaker 8: so I'm just saying basically, what I'm saying is it 1757 01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,640 Speaker 8: sounds like you need an old lady's battery in your car. 1758 01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:49,320 Speaker 8: What sort of car she got, it's a the car 1759 01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,559 Speaker 8: preferred by car thieves, a. 1760 01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:59,519 Speaker 2: Mesodemio, the Mighty, the Mighty Master. Anyway, So once again 1761 01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,200 Speaker 2: another example of Max, who didn't have to do anything, 1762 01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,000 Speaker 2: did because he's a good guy. And when you service 1763 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,760 Speaker 2: people nicely and you look after them, guess what you 1764 01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,080 Speaker 2: feel good about life? 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It will restrict the number of 1798 01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,400 Speaker 2: pets per flight to four. They will assign the pet 1799 01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,519 Speaker 2: owner to designated seats in a couple of prise you 1800 01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:52,679 Speaker 2: get eighteen eighty and f twenty to twenty. 1801 01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:59,720 Speaker 8: F adjacent seats. It's some potentially disastrous, isn't it? 1802 01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:01,800 Speaker 2: The thoughts at twenty and twenty. Yet they don't get 1803 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,800 Speaker 2: on how badly can it go? Pretty badly, I would 1804 01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,320 Speaker 2: have thought. But anyway, there's the future for you there 1805 01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:07,519 Speaker 2: five minutes away from nine. 1806 01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:12,280 Speaker 1: It's trending now with Chamast Warehouse, I'll prize Fighter would. 1807 01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:13,000 Speaker 21: Sail on now. 1808 01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:16,200 Speaker 2: Nancy Mace. You know the name South Carolina congresswoman and 1809 01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,400 Speaker 2: Ilhan Omar. Anyway, here's Nancy here. 1810 01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:21,440 Speaker 10: I am standing. 1811 01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:27,240 Speaker 26: Outside of the anti American Elain Omar's office. Tomorrow we 1812 01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:31,880 Speaker 26: will follow a privileged motion to censure her and to 1813 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:37,920 Speaker 26: shiper he committee assignments. I'm tired of your performative bs 1814 01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:41,479 Speaker 26: that is putting lives in danger. 1815 01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:43,720 Speaker 2: I love the way she got the echo in there. 1816 01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:47,040 Speaker 2: Gives a real production value. Doesn't it one way ticket 1817 01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:50,560 Speaker 2: to Somalia for you? Ilhan Omar? She says, this is 1818 01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:54,840 Speaker 2: Mace is your ridiculous censure about me being born in Somalia. 1819 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:59,360 Speaker 2: This is il Han hitting back because that's just as 1820 01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,360 Speaker 2: crazy as as you are. Would love to see you 1821 01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,639 Speaker 2: get the help you need. Next you belong in rehab, 1822 01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:08,280 Speaker 2: not Congress. Who knows, Maybe I'll be about you marrying 1823 01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:15,720 Speaker 2: your brother next tune in Mace Central resolution could be 1824 01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:22,120 Speaker 2: voted on as soon as today. Does it get to 1825 01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,639 Speaker 2: the point of being tyresome? This stuff like at the start, 1826 01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,000 Speaker 2: is it one of those things that at the start 1827 01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,400 Speaker 2: you thought, yes, it's moderately entertaining, they're all nuts, and 1828 01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,640 Speaker 2: then it gets to the point where you know it 1829 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,519 Speaker 2: just becomes pathetic by the way, just very quickly, a 1830 01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,120 Speaker 2: question you can think about today and give me an 1831 01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:38,800 Speaker 2: answer by tomorrow. B and pl You know the buy now, 1832 01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:42,200 Speaker 2: pay later business, lay By, which was the company they 1833 01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:46,519 Speaker 2: went into receivership this year. This last year they went 1834 01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:49,200 Speaker 2: in as of yesterday apparently into liquidation. They owe fifteen 1835 01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,680 Speaker 2: million to creditors. Anyway, I've been fascinated by the buy now, 1836 01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:53,960 Speaker 2: pay later market, and I mentioned the other day Klana, 1837 01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,880 Speaker 2: which is a global player. They ipo'd the other day 1838 01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,479 Speaker 2: and they're worth billions. They're the iPod up at billions 1839 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,840 Speaker 2: and billions of dollars. So is it the buying our 1840 01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:04,280 Speaker 2: pay later thing that doesn't work, or is it Layby's 1841 01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,679 Speaker 2: model that doesn't work? Or is Layby just being local 1842 01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,760 Speaker 2: the problem and therefore New Zealand's the problem. But buy now, 1843 01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,240 Speaker 2: pay later, if you go global, is workable? Have you 1844 01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,040 Speaker 2: used by our pay later? Is it a thing of 1845 01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:17,040 Speaker 2: the future, et cetera. Is it as uplifting and interesting 1846 01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,680 Speaker 2: as carrying pets on a plane. We can develop a 1847 01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:22,880 Speaker 2: whole show for the future. But anyway, that's for tomorrow. 1848 01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:24,000 Speaker 2: As always, Happy days. 1849 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,640 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast listen live to 1850 01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,840 Speaker 1: news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 1851 01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:32,440 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio