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Speaker 1: on your home of Sport News Talks ed B.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 3: There you on to good afternoon, Welcome in to Weekend

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Speaker 3: Sport on News Talks ed B. February is here, Sunday,

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Speaker 3: February first, which means happy forty fifth birthday.

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Speaker 4: To this, it looks to me as if they're going

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Speaker 4: to bow under arm off the vist ball. Bud Marsh

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Speaker 4: is saying, no, mate, but I'm sure he's going to

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Speaker 4: bow an under armed delivery and be sure that it

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Speaker 4: has not been hit for six. The umpires have been told,

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Speaker 4: the batsmen have been told, and this is possibly a

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Speaker 4: little bit disappointing.

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Speaker 3: We're going to far an under armed we haven't.

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Speaker 5: Believed it.

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Speaker 4: Disappointed grime with keeping the crowd.

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Speaker 6: Boom the time.

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Speaker 3: Here one of the all time great understatements from Bill

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Speaker 3: Laurie in there. This is possibly a little bit disappoints

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Speaker 3: and it led to one of the great television closing

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Speaker 3: monologues from Richie Benno to finish the Channel nine broadcast.

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Speaker 7: Let me just tell you what I think about it.

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Speaker 7: I think it was a disgraceful performance from a captain

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Speaker 7: who's got his sums wrong today, and I think it

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Speaker 7: should never be permitted to happen again. We keep reading

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Speaker 7: and hearing that the players are under a lot of pressure,

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Speaker 7: and that they're tired and jaded, and perhaps their judgment

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Speaker 7: and their skill is blunted. Well, perhaps they might advance

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Speaker 7: that as an excuse for what happened out there today.

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Speaker 6: Not with me, they don't.

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Speaker 7: I think it was a very poor performance, one of

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Speaker 7: the worst things I have ever seen done on a

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Speaker 3: Goodnight, heiver of the pro Richie still managed the cherry

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Speaker 3: good night at the end February first, nineteen eighty one,

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Speaker 3: never to be forgotten. I'm Jason Pine Show producer Anny McDonald.

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Speaker 3: We're here till three. Martin Snedden played in that game.

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Speaker 3: He's with a sh shortly, not on that, but on

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Speaker 3: the upcoming T twenty World Cup and from a wider

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Speaker 3: keen tear from you as well. It's the T twenty

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Speaker 3: Cricket World Cup. Got you excited before we get there.

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Speaker 3: They wanted to cover off what Sam Ruth has done

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Speaker 3: in the last few hours. He is now New Zealand's

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Speaker 3: fastest miler of all time. Utterly, utterly remarkable. He's run

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Speaker 3: three minutes forty eight point eight eight seconds on his

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Speaker 3: way to winning the Boston University Terrier Classic. It was indoors,

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Speaker 3: which I guess means that it doesn't qualify to beat

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Speaker 3: But he went faster than that three minutes forty eight

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Speaker 3: other matters around. Today we have our domestic Super Smash

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Speaker 3: cricket champions, the Wellington Women and the Northern Brave Men

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Speaker 3: from both skippers are both victorious Skippers after two Jess

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Speaker 3: Northern Brave. We'll get you to the tennis. Elena Rebukana

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Speaker 3: is the Ossie Open women's singles champion. She's beaten Arena

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Speaker 3: Melbourne to review and to previewed. Auckland FC attacker Jesse

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Speaker 3: One of his former coaches, Paul Eifel, on that move.

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Speaker 3: The Women's Amateur Asia Pacific Championship at Royal Wellington Golf

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Speaker 3: Club now just a couple of weeks away. Nine keywis

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Speaker 3: So as mention, before we do anything else, can we

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Speaker 3: just marvel at what Sam Ruth continues to do. The

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Speaker 8: Harry comes, Sam Ruth, Oh my word, can you believe

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Speaker 9: Three forty eight.

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Speaker 3: Point eight Sam Ruth.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad the race didn't go any longer. Looks all

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Speaker 3: Boston University John Thomas Terrier Classic. Sam Ruth has run

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Speaker 3: three minutes forty eight point eight eight seconds That smashes

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Speaker 3: the New Zealand indoor men's record previously set by Nick Willis.

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Speaker 3: Sam Ruth became the fastest sixteen year old to ever

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Speaker 3: And he's sixteen. He is sixteen years old. Incredible, just incredible.

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Speaker 3: The Bayannual T twenty Cricket World Cup is a week away.

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Speaker 3: It starts next Saturday in India. How much cut through

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Speaker 3: I guess what is historically the more important fifty over

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Speaker 3: World Cup. Martin Snedden played twenty five Test matches ninety

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Speaker 3: three One day internationals for New Zealand during a first

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Speaker 3: one of our foremost sporting administrators, leading several large scale

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Speaker 2: It's a difficult one, you know. I'm not I'm a

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Speaker 2: you might have one of our best New Zealand Tea

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Speaker 2: I think when that sort of stuff happening. I don't

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Speaker 2: the ODI World Cup only occurs once every four years

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Speaker 2: So well, answer Jay, sorry, but I'm not a great

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people have zeroed in on,

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that points past. I think there's way

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Speaker 2: But it's just the total amount of cricket played and

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Speaker 2: the fact that one week you're talking about T twenty

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Speaker 2: People just can't keep up with that and they don't

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Speaker 2: And unfortunately, I think that horse has bolted. I think

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Speaker 2: some players will go there. They'll get paid well, which

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Speaker 3: Just on the fifty over stuff. Martin broadcasters would quite

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Speaker 3: Tremendously interesting times for the game of cricket. Martin, thank

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Speaker 6: Thanks Chasin, Thanks mate.

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Speaker 3: There are nothing that we obviously haven't talked about before

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Speaker 3: Remember that February two thousand and five. Neither team took

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Speaker 3: it seriously. Really, you remember the New Zealand sidewalk Beije

432
00:27:20,707 --> 00:27:25,067
Speaker 3: and had all their haircuts, you know, retro haircuts. Ricky

433
00:27:25,067 --> 00:27:28,507
Speaker 3: Ponting got about ninety in that game. We couldn't possibly

434
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Speaker 3: have imagined, could we, twenty years ago, that it would

435
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Speaker 3: grow into the bohemouth that it has become.

436
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Speaker 9: Hello, Bob, Yeah, Hi, Yeah, I'm just what you just

437
00:27:38,507 --> 00:27:42,947
Speaker 9: mentioned that. I remember going back those years when everybody

438
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Speaker 9: laughed when they bought to twenty on and said it'll

439
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Speaker 9: ever last. It's the jokes that has done.

440
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Speaker 3: Pretty soon, it has done. Yeah. Like I say, Bob,

441
00:27:52,907 --> 00:27:55,467
Speaker 3: I don't think we could possibly have imagined it, could we.

442
00:27:55,267 --> 00:27:58,587
Speaker 3: We couldn't have imagined what it would become in a

443
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Speaker 3: couple of decades. It's astonishing and obviously it started with

444
00:28:02,987 --> 00:28:05,547
Speaker 3: the IPL and India about three years after that first

445
00:28:05,787 --> 00:28:09,027
Speaker 3: Innati and has just well, in the last four or

446
00:28:09,107 --> 00:28:11,947
Speaker 3: five years, the explosion of the different franchise legs has

447
00:28:11,987 --> 00:28:13,347
Speaker 3: been remarkable.

448
00:28:14,667 --> 00:28:20,547
Speaker 9: Well, it's pure entertainment and it doesn't last forever. It

449
00:28:20,587 --> 00:28:23,867
Speaker 9: goes on, gets the job done and people are entertained

450
00:28:23,907 --> 00:28:26,107
Speaker 9: by You're not tied up all day and all night.

451
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Speaker 3: That's it. Yeah, no, exactly, so do you. I don't know.

452
00:28:33,267 --> 00:28:35,587
Speaker 3: I can't remember any other T twenty World Cups, Bob.

453
00:28:35,627 --> 00:28:37,187
Speaker 3: I'm sure there have been some. I know they have,

454
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Speaker 3: but I can't remember who who won them, or whether

455
00:28:40,227 --> 00:28:42,387
Speaker 3: you know, whether we did any good in them. It

456
00:28:42,547 --> 00:28:45,147
Speaker 3: just it sort of all fades into there's so much

457
00:28:45,227 --> 00:28:47,587
Speaker 3: of it, it's kind of fades into into sort of

458
00:28:47,627 --> 00:28:51,507
Speaker 3: a missmash of of nothing for me. I don't know.

459
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Speaker 9: Well, it's called evolution.

460
00:28:56,427 --> 00:28:56,627
Speaker 12: Yeah.

461
00:28:56,667 --> 00:28:58,467
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not sure that everybody will be a fan

462
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Speaker 3: of the way things are evolving, Bob. But I'm not

463
00:29:00,667 --> 00:29:03,307
Speaker 3: sure we can stop At Martin's Needen seemed to be

464
00:29:03,347 --> 00:29:06,347
Speaker 3: of the view that the horse has bolted. It doesn't

465
00:29:06,507 --> 00:29:08,907
Speaker 3: to be slowing down, does it? Thanks Bob, appreciate your

466
00:29:08,907 --> 00:29:12,707
Speaker 3: call next days. Jason T twenty is like watching reels

467
00:29:12,707 --> 00:29:15,827
Speaker 3: on your phone. Fifty over cricket is a gripping movie.

468
00:29:16,347 --> 00:29:19,627
Speaker 3: Test cricket is like a great book. Love it, nake

469
00:29:19,707 --> 00:29:22,227
Speaker 3: Boxing Day Test in New Zealand. Have a flight arriving

470
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Speaker 3: in Melbourne at eight am on Boxing Day. See you

471
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Speaker 3: at the airport. I may well see you at the airport. Nick.

472
00:29:28,387 --> 00:29:30,027
Speaker 3: I hope I do get the chance to see you

473
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Speaker 3: at the airport. Dallas, Hi, honey.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: First of all, I enjoyed the women's tennis last night.

476
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Speaker 14: Did you enjoy that?

477
00:29:38,227 --> 00:29:40,867
Speaker 3: I did? I was flicking between that in football and

478
00:29:40,907 --> 00:29:44,067
Speaker 3: I found myself watching the tennis a bit more Dallas.

479
00:29:44,107 --> 00:29:47,907
Speaker 3: It was a good final, a good final, fantastic.

480
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Speaker 13: The thing is it's a key like the Australian Open.

481
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Speaker 10: It's and the ashes.

482
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Speaker 13: The ashes is a well known thing there and you

483
00:29:59,347 --> 00:30:02,587
Speaker 13: know it's I can't see that good dying that form

484
00:30:02,627 --> 00:30:06,787
Speaker 13: of Test cricket. Remember when One day Cricket Earth came

485
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Speaker 13: in I'm old enough.

486
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Speaker 3: It was sixty overs yes, yes, sixty.

487
00:30:11,587 --> 00:30:16,147
Speaker 13: Overly started in England and everyone was horrified, what's this new?

488
00:30:17,147 --> 00:30:19,827
Speaker 13: One day cricket. We've never heard of this.

489
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Speaker 10: This is terrible, you know.

490
00:30:22,067 --> 00:30:24,267
Speaker 3: And also the way it evolved is well tells even

491
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Speaker 3: when it became fifty overs more regularly. I was talking

492
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Speaker 3: about this with somebody the other day. Remember we used

493
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Speaker 3: to approach it like a Test match, you know, John

494
00:30:31,267 --> 00:30:33,067
Speaker 3: John Wright and Bruce Egg would open the batting and

495
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Speaker 3: if we were twenty one without loss after ten overs,

496
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Speaker 3: Weld made a good start.

497
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Speaker 13: But even I enjoy I enjoyed the superfass the final yesterday.

498
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Speaker 10: That was great, you know, because.

499
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Speaker 13: Even T twenty has got its own rhythms and both sides,

500
00:30:50,267 --> 00:30:54,827
Speaker 13: you know, were have had their good periods and it's

501
00:30:54,867 --> 00:30:57,867
Speaker 13: got its own tactics. Now T twenty it'stead of becoming

502
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Speaker 13: more specialists. So I think it's just evolution. I think,

503
00:31:03,147 --> 00:31:05,747
Speaker 13: you know, as Martin said and said, the horses boulder,

504
00:31:05,867 --> 00:31:10,027
Speaker 13: so we might. We'll just enjoy it and it'll sort

505
00:31:10,027 --> 00:31:13,467
Speaker 13: itself out. If there's too much T twenty, you know

506
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Speaker 13: that the market can't stand it, then it'll sort itself out.

507
00:31:18,147 --> 00:31:21,947
Speaker 13: And if people are hungry enough to the old format

508
00:31:21,987 --> 00:31:24,787
Speaker 13: fifty overs, then they'll come back as well. It's just

509
00:31:25,267 --> 00:31:25,987
Speaker 13: it's evolution.

510
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's right, Dallas, And we can't stand in

511
00:31:29,227 --> 00:31:31,267
Speaker 3: the way of it. We can't sort of stand here

512
00:31:31,387 --> 00:31:33,947
Speaker 3: or misty eyed and wish things with the way they'd

513
00:31:33,947 --> 00:31:37,427
Speaker 3: always been because because that simply isn't going to happen.

514
00:31:37,467 --> 00:31:40,987
Speaker 3: So I think you're right. I still enjoy watching T twenty.

515
00:31:40,987 --> 00:31:43,547
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed watching the Supersmash Finals

516
00:31:43,867 --> 00:31:48,187
Speaker 3: yesterday as well, particularly the women's game with my Wellington

517
00:31:48,187 --> 00:31:50,707
Speaker 3: Blaze getting across the line. There is a high degree

518
00:31:50,707 --> 00:31:54,027
Speaker 3: of excitement. Of course, it's entry level for fans as well,

519
00:31:54,147 --> 00:31:58,867
Speaker 3: more digestible, more snackable, more consumable. I think, you know,

520
00:31:58,947 --> 00:32:02,227
Speaker 3: the more nostalgic and died in the wall cricket fans

521
00:32:02,227 --> 00:32:05,107
Speaker 3: among us. And I include you in that, Dallas. I'm still,

522
00:32:05,267 --> 00:32:09,627
Speaker 3: you know, think with great fondness about what it used

523
00:32:09,627 --> 00:32:13,267
Speaker 3: to be like. But you're right, Dallas, we can't. We

524
00:32:13,307 --> 00:32:16,067
Speaker 3: can't stop the horse. It's bolted. We just need to,

525
00:32:16,747 --> 00:32:20,667
Speaker 3: I guess, find new ways of enjoying our cricket. Had

526
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Speaker 3: this kind of cricket been around, says Taylor on text

527
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Speaker 3: when I was at school, I know what I've gone

528
00:32:25,627 --> 00:32:30,627
Speaker 3: on to cricket of a Hi, Yes, please I'm nearly

529
00:32:30,667 --> 00:32:33,227
Speaker 3: forty now to but old hell Onia Taylor, I can

530
00:32:33,267 --> 00:32:36,467
Speaker 3: imagine you would have traveled the world smashing it to

531
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Speaker 3: all parts. We've got to get a breakaway. I want to

532
00:32:39,267 --> 00:32:40,667
Speaker 3: talk a bit about Sam Ruth again in a moment.

533
00:32:40,747 --> 00:32:42,547
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty eighteen to one,

534
00:32:42,587 --> 00:32:43,907
Speaker 3: back with more of your calls after this.

535
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Speaker 6: It's more than just a game. Weekends for it with

536
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Speaker 6: Jason Pine and GJ.

537
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Speaker 1: Garnomes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder, news talks be.

538
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Speaker 3: According to one just a question on text. Was T

539
00:32:56,987 --> 00:33:00,867
Speaker 3: twenty born out of Martin cross concept of Cricket Max? Yeah?

540
00:33:00,907 --> 00:33:03,307
Speaker 3: I think that was one of the early forerunners, wasn't it.

541
00:33:03,347 --> 00:33:05,587
Speaker 3: Once a lot of countries were kind of looking for

542
00:33:05,667 --> 00:33:08,267
Speaker 3: ways to have a shorter version of the game, shorter

543
00:33:08,307 --> 00:33:12,187
Speaker 3: than fifty over and Cricket Max. Yeah, Cricket Max was fun,

544
00:33:12,267 --> 00:33:16,947
Speaker 3: wasn't it? Four stumps, the max zones, that sort of

545
00:33:16,987 --> 00:33:20,267
Speaker 3: thing a lot of fun. A couple more texts before

546
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Speaker 3: we moved to sam Ruth Piney. The only T twenty

547
00:33:26,307 --> 00:33:27,867
Speaker 3: World Cup game I can recall when it was when

548
00:33:27,907 --> 00:33:30,267
Speaker 3: we beat Australia and Sydney could have been twenty twenty two,

549
00:33:30,507 --> 00:33:32,867
Speaker 3: Fanellan had a rapid forty old gleamn Phillips were special.

550
00:33:33,187 --> 00:33:35,547
Speaker 3: As much as it's my least favorite, formata is consumable,

551
00:33:35,587 --> 00:33:37,507
Speaker 3: not going away. What I would like, though, is for

552
00:33:37,547 --> 00:33:39,227
Speaker 3: the T twenty World Cup to we played every four

553
00:33:39,307 --> 00:33:42,427
Speaker 3: years rather than every two. It creates an international schedule

554
00:33:42,467 --> 00:33:45,387
Speaker 3: Saturay with T twenty every second year as teams bill

555
00:33:45,467 --> 00:33:48,107
Speaker 3: for the World Cup. Yeah, you're dead, right, Eareth. I

556
00:33:48,107 --> 00:33:49,667
Speaker 3: mean we just look at what New Zealand have beenue

557
00:33:49,667 --> 00:33:51,707
Speaker 3: and they played those odiis against India, but then five

558
00:33:52,307 --> 00:33:55,667
Speaker 3: T twenty internationals. Every other team is currently playing T

559
00:33:55,667 --> 00:33:58,987
Speaker 3: twenty internationals as warm up for the World Cup. Yeah,

560
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Speaker 3: the game's just I don't know. It's hard to find

561
00:34:02,107 --> 00:34:05,747
Speaker 3: points of difference in them. It's very, very hard to

562
00:34:05,747 --> 00:34:11,587
Speaker 3: distinguish one from the other. Derek sam Ruth, how fast

563
00:34:11,667 --> 00:34:12,187
Speaker 3: might he go?

564
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Speaker 12: Well, it's a little bit unbelievable. What's going on with them?

565
00:34:16,027 --> 00:34:18,787
Speaker 12: I've been keeping a close eye on it. Look, it's

566
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Speaker 12: only about I think it was a week and a

567
00:34:20,187 --> 00:34:24,507
Speaker 12: half ago. I switched on to watch the He's nineteen

568
00:34:24,547 --> 00:34:27,907
Speaker 12: years old, the Australian star cam Myers. He went over

569
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Speaker 12: to the indoor season, he got a lot of publicity

570
00:34:29,827 --> 00:34:33,427
Speaker 12: for running three point four to nine in the mile

571
00:34:33,507 --> 00:34:37,707
Speaker 12: that was indoor. To be fair to the American athletes,

572
00:34:38,147 --> 00:34:39,787
Speaker 12: these guys are in the middle of the season coming

573
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Speaker 12: from New Zealand and Australia and they're in top form,

574
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Speaker 12: and I think they used the same pacemaker. The same

575
00:34:44,387 --> 00:34:46,547
Speaker 12: pacemaker might have been used this morning, But that was

576
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Speaker 12: a very fast time by Cameron Myers, who's over.

577
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Speaker 10: There right now. He's a nineteen year old athlete.

578
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Speaker 12: The Sam Ruth, I think it was only a couple

579
00:34:52,987 --> 00:34:56,507
Speaker 12: of weeks ago at sixteen he ran three point fifty three.

580
00:34:56,587 --> 00:34:58,587
Speaker 12: I remember watching that, and then he ran the one

581
00:34:58,627 --> 00:35:01,347
Speaker 12: point four to five for the eight hundred meters, which

582
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Speaker 12: I'm keeping a close eye on because I know all

583
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Speaker 12: about the Peter Snell racing sixty two down Rocesh. I

584
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Speaker 12: think where he ran one point four to four the

585
00:35:08,587 --> 00:35:10,667
Speaker 12: I'm not sure there was a world record or not

586
00:35:11,147 --> 00:35:13,347
Speaker 12: that's been beaten by one New Zealander, but not.

587
00:35:13,267 --> 00:35:15,907
Speaker 10: On New Zealand soil. It was beaten overseas. I don't

588
00:35:15,947 --> 00:35:16,547
Speaker 10: know who it was.

589
00:35:16,947 --> 00:35:19,467
Speaker 12: But for Sam Ruth to come out today and run

590
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Speaker 12: three forty eight, I watched the race about an hour ago.

591
00:35:22,547 --> 00:35:25,787
Speaker 12: It's just incredible. Now my question to you is, and

592
00:35:25,827 --> 00:35:28,667
Speaker 12: the people in the newsroom is Sam Ruth and Cameron

593
00:35:28,747 --> 00:35:31,507
Speaker 12: Meyer is going to be going head to head anytime

594
00:35:31,627 --> 00:35:34,427
Speaker 12: soon because both men at the height of their seasons

595
00:35:34,467 --> 00:35:36,547
Speaker 12: are coming in with some very fast times both in

596
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Speaker 12: New Zealand Australia and now they're running indoor.

597
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Speaker 10: That'll be a race I'd like to see.

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00:35:41,667 --> 00:35:42,187
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: I lock this.

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Speaker 3: I'm the same, Derek. And the other thing about I

601
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Speaker 3: think it was James Preston who won the who has

602
00:35:47,787 --> 00:35:50,107
Speaker 3: the eight hundred better record for New Zealand set in

603
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Speaker 3: Germany in May of twenty four. I'm told you yep,

604
00:35:53,547 --> 00:35:55,907
Speaker 3: but not no, not at all. But I just wonder,

605
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Speaker 3: you know, you know this Snell Walker Will it's all

606
00:36:00,067 --> 00:36:01,947
Speaker 3: of our great you know, Dixon Quacks, all of our

607
00:36:01,987 --> 00:36:06,907
Speaker 3: great in middle distance runners. They did their best times

608
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Speaker 3: in their mid to late twenties. This could sixteen, Derek.

609
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Speaker 3: I don't know what it means though. What does it mean?

610
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Speaker 3: Does it mean that he he won't have the improvement

611
00:36:15,707 --> 00:36:18,747
Speaker 3: into his twenties? Is he is he peaking? Is he

612
00:36:18,787 --> 00:36:21,227
Speaker 3: peaking now before he's old enough to even ever drink

613
00:36:21,267 --> 00:36:21,947
Speaker 3: to celebrate.

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00:36:22,787 --> 00:36:24,867
Speaker 12: Well, this is what you and I are going to disagree.

615
00:36:25,187 --> 00:36:28,307
Speaker 12: First of all, I think I don't know Cameron Myers

616
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Speaker 12: times at eight hundred meters. I don't know if he's

617
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Speaker 12: done a one point four to five eight hundred meters

618
00:36:34,187 --> 00:36:36,827
Speaker 12: time that shows that Sam Ruth has got the speed.

619
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Speaker 12: And we all know that that John Walker specialized in

620
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Speaker 12: eight hundred meters before going into those Calm Games in

621
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Speaker 12: nineteen seventy four where he certainly started running the mile.

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Speaker 10: In fifte hundred meters. And say, for I don't know.

623
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Speaker 12: What Karon Meyer's times alike, so I don't know if

624
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Speaker 12: he's got that speed that Sam Ruth does have. I

625
00:36:54,507 --> 00:36:57,947
Speaker 12: watched Sam Ruth through the five thousand meters about a

626
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Speaker 12: month ago. He didn't look the same. He didn't look

627
00:37:00,387 --> 00:37:02,427
Speaker 12: the same runner as he does at eight hundred and

628
00:37:02,587 --> 00:37:06,227
Speaker 12: at the mile. But when it comes to when is

629
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Speaker 12: the athlete going to peak? For all we know, he

630
00:37:08,467 --> 00:37:11,107
Speaker 12: might well peek at twenty one, twenty two, twenty three,

631
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Speaker 12: like the likes of Herb Elliott. I mean, we've got

632
00:37:12,947 --> 00:37:15,067
Speaker 12: a great I'm not saying we don't have a fantastic

633
00:37:15,347 --> 00:37:17,787
Speaker 12: You're going down the road of our great heritage in

634
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Speaker 12: this race, and we do have a fantastic heritage.

635
00:37:19,747 --> 00:37:20,707
Speaker 10: There's real New Zealand.

636
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Speaker 12: It's always great to see in New Zealand are running

637
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Speaker 12: the mile because that's you know, we've been brought up

638
00:37:24,507 --> 00:37:26,547
Speaker 12: on the likes of Lovelock and so forth. But I

639
00:37:26,667 --> 00:37:29,147
Speaker 12: just feel that when people say, oh, well, because he's

640
00:37:29,147 --> 00:37:31,707
Speaker 12: fifteen and he's run under four minutes, which I think

641
00:37:31,747 --> 00:37:35,027
Speaker 12: he did three fifty eight when he was fifteen years

642
00:37:35,067 --> 00:37:37,427
Speaker 12: of age, and so he went from three fifty three

643
00:37:37,427 --> 00:37:41,067
Speaker 12: to the three forty eight we see this morning. Just

644
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Speaker 12: because of that, I think you'll have to be careful

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Speaker 12: because he's still growing. We don't know how he's going

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Speaker 12: to develop, and he might well, he might well peek

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Speaker 12: out at twenty two twenty three. I mean, he's tall,

648
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Speaker 12: he's a good looking kid. He's probably going to get

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Speaker 12: He's going to be attractive to a lot of young girls.

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Speaker 10: I mean, you never know where his career is going

651
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Speaker 10: to go, but look at them.

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Speaker 12: You never know. He might end up wanting to be football.

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Speaker 12: He might want to play football, might want to play

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Speaker 12: talking on them, see, but certainly need someone with a

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Speaker 12: stamina in the midfield of them.

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Speaker 3: And I can tell you that, Hey, Derek, I want

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Speaker 3: to move on to But I can tell you I've

658
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Speaker 3: just looked at cam Myce. His eight hundred pb is

659
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Speaker 3: one forty seven one forty seven eleven. So you compare

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Speaker 3: that to Sam Ruth's eight hundred pp of one forty five.

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Speaker 3: So clearly, over that shorter distance, Ruth has the legs

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Speaker 3: on Myers. But yeah, I'd love to see them go

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Speaker 3: head to hit as well. Mark Good I mate.

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Speaker 15: So in a few minutes that I've been sitting here

665
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Speaker 15: waiting for the call, the views on the race went

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Speaker 15: from nineteen hundred to two thy five hundred and thirty

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Speaker 15: in a matter of minutes. Is on flow track if

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Speaker 15: l otr ac K.

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Speaker 16: If you put that in one word on your on

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Speaker 16: your YouTube, up it comes. It's the pro shot with

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Speaker 16: the commentator freaking out. Commentator does freak out. It's Sam

672
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Speaker 16: tanor something wrong with his ankle. He pulls off the

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Speaker 16: course one minute thirteen in. You can see him he's

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Speaker 16: got something wrong a little bit on his right outside foot.

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Speaker 16: As he said, it sort of flops on him a

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Speaker 16: little bit as he comes off the track, hopefully more

677
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Speaker 16: of a twinge rather than anything else. For Sam, but

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Speaker 16: Ruth's engine can't see a limit on it at the moment.

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Speaker 16: With a sixteen year old kid, yeah, he could move

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Speaker 16: up over distance.

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Speaker 6: And be running.

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Speaker 16: He could be running for the next twenty years, over

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Speaker 16: the next five six Olympic cycles. So next Olympics is

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Speaker 16: next year, is that right? Next year?

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Speaker 3: Twenty eight, twenty twenty eight to the next Olympics. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: in LA.

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Speaker 16: Sorry, twenty twenty eight in LA. So he'll be seventeen

688
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Speaker 16: and three quarters or eighteen. New Zealand Olympic Committee can't

689
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Speaker 16: muck around and muck this kid around by saying, oh,

690
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Speaker 16: we're engaged, but young bugger, you stick him in there

691
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Speaker 16: and you see how he goes. He'll be fine because

692
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Speaker 16: he's running against.

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Speaker 14: These men as it stands.

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Speaker 11: But look, the future is so bright for.

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Speaker 16: This young man and for us all to be going

696
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Speaker 16: along on this journey with him. He could be running

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Speaker 16: five thousand meters when he's thirty six years old and

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Speaker 16: then pulling up to marathons. Yeah, he could be running

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Speaker 16: like Block what Dix did. Dix just went from eight

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Speaker 16: hundreds to fifteen's to fives to tens to twenty six

701
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Speaker 16: miles and there's so many pathways for this.

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Speaker 17: So excited, this is exciting.

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Speaker 3: It is Mark, I can tell I got a move,

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Speaker 3: but I love your enthusiasm for it. Thanks for giving

705
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Speaker 3: us those links. I will have a look. But yeah,

706
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Speaker 3: he could be anything. He could be anything six and

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Speaker 3: a half to one News Talks, he'd be as some

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Speaker 3: regarding Sam Ruth, the mind boggles. We saw him at

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Speaker 3: the Cook's Classic merely a week ago. He surely isn't

710
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Speaker 3: even over his jet lag yet, simply amazing. Maybe sixteen

711
00:40:56,387 --> 00:40:59,107
Speaker 3: year olds don't get jet lag. I don't know. Well,

712
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Speaker 3: it clearly hasn't hasn't affected him. What could he be anything?

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Speaker 3: He wants approaching News at one after all one, we'll

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Speaker 3: get you to Melbourne to review and preview the Aussie Open.

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Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

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Speaker 1: on and after fields. It's all on Weekend Sport with

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Speaker 1: Jason Paine on your home of Sport.

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Speaker 3: New York one seven. Welcome into Weekend Sport on News TALKSB.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jason pine Worth, Andy McDonald alongside. We're heads all three.

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Speaker 3: So much sport on at the moment. It's not going

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Speaker 3: to improve much, is it, And it's not helping with

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Speaker 3: the sleep. I can tell you it's up late last

723
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Speaker 3: night watching football, watching Auckland FC. They kicked off just

724
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Speaker 3: before midnight New Zealand time over in Perth and when

725
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Speaker 3: the final was to win a couple of hours after that,

726
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Speaker 3: they've lost it to one. Can we say that Auckland

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Speaker 3: f C Are in a bit of a slump. They've

728
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Speaker 3: had one win in their last six games. On the

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Speaker 3: brighter side of things, Jesse rand Or, one of their

730
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Speaker 3: key attacking players, is off to Scotland. He's earned a

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Speaker 3: move to Dundee United in the Scottish Premier League. He'll

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Speaker 3: play it the rest of the season with Auckland FC

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Speaker 3: and then head off. So reward for Jesse Randal for

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Speaker 3: what's been a really, really good season for him and yeah,

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Speaker 3: just you don't know what he might end up doing.

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Speaker 3: Paul Eifel, former Wellington Phoenix player, skysport analyst and commentator

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Speaker 3: and football coach. He actually coached Jesse Randall for a while.

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Speaker 3: So what's he seen from him in terms of improvement?

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Speaker 3: What does he predict for him as he makes this

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Speaker 3: move to the Scottish Premier League. James mccony this hour

741
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Speaker 3: as well as he gives us his usual Sunday look

742
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Speaker 3: at the sporting events of the last little while allies

743
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Speaker 3: remain open for your calls eight hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 3: eighty ninety two ninety two if you want to correspond

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Speaker 3: by text to the audience. Ossie Tennis Open Elena Rebeiken

746
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Speaker 3: has shed her tag as a one slam wonder, upstaging

747
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Speaker 3: two time champion Arena Sablenka in a high octane Australian

748
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Speaker 3: Open Women's final last night. Championship point for Atlanta Rebuckinger.

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Speaker 18: Sales are with it a landa rebuccaner the Australian Open

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Speaker 18: chat here for six sixteen.

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Speaker 3: He had a big serving Kazakh fifth seed four back

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Speaker 3: from three love down in the deciding set to win

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Speaker 3: six four four, six sixty four in two hours and

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Speaker 3: eighteen minutes. But a payback for her after Sabolenka beat

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Speaker 3: her in the twenty twenty three Australian Open final. Dave

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Speaker 3: Worsley watched on at rod Laver Arena and joins us

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Speaker 3: now from Melbourne. Tell us a story of this final,

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Speaker 3: Dave Well, I.

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Speaker 17: Guess the story is in your summary. There that from

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Speaker 17: a love three down by Buckner really was able to

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Speaker 17: come back in the sense that she kept herself strong,

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Speaker 17: because most other people are in Sabolanka would struggle to

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Speaker 17: hold their nerves. Most people would actually go, oh, you know,

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Speaker 17: she's just too strong mentally and physically, Rebecca. You don't

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Speaker 17: see too much emotion from her, but she's just a

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Speaker 17: quiet achiever in that sense, with that big, powerful serve.

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Speaker 17: And you know, I don't mind saying that I was

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Speaker 17: a little surprised that she did actually come back because

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Speaker 17: most people just get overpowered mentally and physically by Sebolanka.

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Speaker 17: So the strength that got shown through from the kuthark

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Speaker 17: was her. Well, that was what actually won of the match,

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Speaker 17: and just on Sebolenka.

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Speaker 3: Then, you know, once she was three love up, you

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Speaker 3: feel you must be able. I have never been in

775
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Speaker 3: the situation, but you must feel as though, hey, it's

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Speaker 3: there for me on three love up, I'm up a

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Speaker 3: break in the deciding set when she was broken back

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Speaker 3: and things were back on an even keel, what would

779
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Speaker 3: that have done to her mentality? Were you able to

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Speaker 3: pick anything up in that regard?

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Speaker 17: Well, it's a little bit hard to tell with Sebolenka

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Speaker 17: because she's been relatively well, not relatively. She has been

783
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Speaker 17: dominant throughout the whole tournament, and you just feel that

784
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Speaker 17: confidence of like, I'm not going to lose to you.

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Speaker 17: How dare I even think that way or you even

786
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Speaker 17: think that way? That you know that that's the sort

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Speaker 17: of personality she does have, that I am number one,

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Speaker 17: I am going to win. And it's almost like a

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Speaker 17: Serena Williams I had for a long time.

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Speaker 10: I don't lose. I'm not going to lose to you.

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Speaker 10: Forget that.

792
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Speaker 9: But you came up.

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Speaker 17: She came up against someone who was pelful in the

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Speaker 17: sense that I think Radakana was never really the sort

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Speaker 17: of person who suffers from nervous because of her opposition.

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Speaker 17: It's her own internal nerves that seem to be the issue,

797
00:45:41,427 --> 00:45:45,947
Speaker 17: if anything, rather than your bigger, stronger whatever. She knows

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Speaker 17: that she has the bigger serve and it was a

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Speaker 17: little bit of a well, it was a bit strange

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Speaker 17: that she actually got broken earlier in the third because

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Speaker 17: even though she dropped that second set, you sort of

802
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Speaker 17: felt that she was still in it and was going

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Speaker 17: to go, you know, potentially force it to a tiebreak

804
00:46:01,867 --> 00:46:03,627
Speaker 17: or whatever, and then would have to see, you know,

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00:46:03,867 --> 00:46:06,107
Speaker 17: just for a moment of many of the points here,

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Speaker 17: and so I was a little surprised that she did

807
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Speaker 17: go down early. But I think she just felt strong

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Speaker 17: within herself and maybe that's just what she needed.

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Speaker 2: That.

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Speaker 17: You know, you can be down in any sport, but

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Speaker 17: if you feel mentally strong for yourself, perhaps that's what

812
00:46:22,907 --> 00:46:23,667
Speaker 17: you need more than.

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Speaker 3: How much confidence, how much resilience, how much how much

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Speaker 3: positivity would would right, Bacca, I have got from beating

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Speaker 3: the second seed Fonceech and straight seats in the quarterfinals.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I'm you must feel the strength of beating ias Fiontech.

817
00:46:40,627 --> 00:46:43,827
Speaker 17: But I mean we we've got to realize Thatonce had

818
00:46:43,827 --> 00:46:48,147
Speaker 17: never actually gone past the semifinals at the tournament back.

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Speaker 17: It's a really curious case because she just shows nothing,

820
00:46:52,307 --> 00:46:56,827
Speaker 17: gives nothing away. She was working with her coach, A Bookov,

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Speaker 17: who was actually banned for a year or thereabouts by

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Speaker 17: the WTA for well, yeah, it's an interesting case. He

823
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Speaker 17: then protests and manage to get back and then had

824
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Speaker 17: to be given a trophy from the Australian Open as

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Speaker 17: the coach of the winning player, which was kind of

826
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Speaker 17: very ironic that he's the guy that had been banned

827
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Speaker 17: for abuse as such, and then gets given a trophy

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Speaker 17: as the winning coach. That was a very awkward moment.

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Speaker 17: I'm sure the WCA was really gripping their teeth on

830
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Speaker 17: that one, but hey, he managed to coach his player

831
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Speaker 17: to the actual title. But I think beating Egos Fiontek

832
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Speaker 17: was probably quite predictable in that sense because albeit that

833
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Speaker 17: she was word number two and has fine a number

834
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Speaker 17: of slams, six of them. Yes, she hasn't been playing

835
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Speaker 17: that well and seemed to be a little bit I

836
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Speaker 17: wouldn't say all over the place, but quite got a

837
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Speaker 17: game and her mind together at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Rebeccaha won Wimbledon in twenty twenty two, made the Aussie

839
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Speaker 3: Open final the following year, but hasn't made a final

840
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Speaker 3: in the time since until last night. Now that she's

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Speaker 3: won a second major, Dave, could she and should she

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Speaker 3: go on to win more?

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Speaker 17: The opportunity is there. I mean, she doesn't probably feel

844
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Speaker 17: good about winning on clay that seems to be the

845
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Speaker 17: domain of Vego Spionce. She's won four of those, so

846
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Speaker 17: I think she's better on hard court and grass, particularly

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Speaker 17: with serve long rallies. Will the very long rallies that

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Speaker 17: you can have on clay perhaps aren't her strength. The

849
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Speaker 17: harder and faster services such as grass or hardquarter probably

850
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Speaker 17: more her game, whereas you'd get more of a counterpuncher

851
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Speaker 17: such as Egos Beyonceech is better on the clay. Also Seberlenka,

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Speaker 17: she's the sort of person as well who likes a

853
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Speaker 17: little bit of a faster court because she likes to

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Speaker 17: finish the points quickly, whereas on you, like I said,

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Speaker 17: on clay, you've got to grind out a little bit more,

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Speaker 17: and that's where the poor Ego Swantech is probably stronger.

857
00:48:58,147 --> 00:49:02,987
Speaker 17: So yeah, the big service the weapon for Radbakner, and

858
00:49:03,187 --> 00:49:06,027
Speaker 17: it is the biggest best serve on the woman's tour

859
00:49:06,027 --> 00:49:10,627
Speaker 17: at the pres in time, even bigger than Saberlenka's And.

860
00:49:10,587 --> 00:49:14,587
Speaker 3: Just on Sabolenka clearly a brilliant, brilliant player. But I

861
00:49:14,627 --> 00:49:16,827
Speaker 3: know I'm splitting heirs here, Dave. But she's only won

862
00:49:16,907 --> 00:49:20,107
Speaker 3: one of her last four Grand Slam finals, runner up

863
00:49:20,107 --> 00:49:21,667
Speaker 3: two years in a row now at the Aussie Open,

864
00:49:21,707 --> 00:49:24,787
Speaker 3: beaten in the French Open final last year by Coco Golf.

865
00:49:24,827 --> 00:49:29,267
Speaker 3: Any concern that she is making finals but not winning

866
00:49:29,307 --> 00:49:32,547
Speaker 3: finals as often as she might hope.

867
00:49:32,267 --> 00:49:34,307
Speaker 17: Well, this is where you get with top athletes, and

868
00:49:34,347 --> 00:49:37,267
Speaker 17: we're talking about the top athletes, the little bit of

869
00:49:37,667 --> 00:49:41,227
Speaker 17: mental fragility, and we're not talking about anything major. We're

870
00:49:41,227 --> 00:49:43,987
Speaker 17: just talking about that last one percent. And this is

871
00:49:43,987 --> 00:49:46,467
Speaker 17: where it counts for the top athletes. That last one

872
00:49:46,507 --> 00:49:51,747
Speaker 17: percent can perhaps get shortened to half of percent or less.

873
00:49:52,227 --> 00:49:54,987
Speaker 17: And when she comes to finals, we've seen it with Verev, well,

874
00:49:55,067 --> 00:49:57,187
Speaker 17: you know, he has her real struggles with himself. He

875
00:49:57,227 --> 00:50:00,267
Speaker 17: doesn't believe he can win. Seberlenka believes she can win

876
00:50:00,907 --> 00:50:04,387
Speaker 17: in but she knows she can win. However, it's just

877
00:50:04,467 --> 00:50:07,427
Speaker 17: that little one percent that comes down to that if

878
00:50:07,467 --> 00:50:10,467
Speaker 17: things don't quite go her way, and this is where

879
00:50:10,507 --> 00:50:12,107
Speaker 17: you see when you just see a point that doesn't

880
00:50:12,187 --> 00:50:14,187
Speaker 17: quite go her way, of course you're going to be

881
00:50:14,227 --> 00:50:16,147
Speaker 17: a little bit angry, a little bit annoyed. But with her,

882
00:50:16,827 --> 00:50:19,747
Speaker 17: it's something that sort of just sticks with her and

883
00:50:20,147 --> 00:50:22,947
Speaker 17: she can't quite get over that I lost that point. Okay,

884
00:50:22,987 --> 00:50:26,147
Speaker 17: next point, let's move on. Sometimes it sticks with her

885
00:50:26,147 --> 00:50:28,067
Speaker 17: too much. She kind of dwells on it where appears

886
00:50:28,107 --> 00:50:30,587
Speaker 17: to I mean, we're making assumptions here. I'm not inside

887
00:50:30,627 --> 00:50:32,667
Speaker 17: her mind. I don't want to be inside her mind. Either,

888
00:50:32,987 --> 00:50:35,867
Speaker 17: but that's what sort of happens. She does appear to

889
00:50:35,947 --> 00:50:38,427
Speaker 17: dwell on losing a point that she feels she shouldn't

890
00:50:38,467 --> 00:50:38,867
Speaker 17: have lost.

891
00:50:39,907 --> 00:50:42,187
Speaker 3: Where was the weight of support last night? Who were

892
00:50:42,227 --> 00:50:45,747
Speaker 3: the crowd, you know, all the majority of them cheering for.

893
00:50:47,227 --> 00:50:49,587
Speaker 17: Initially I think it was a bit of a fifty

894
00:50:49,627 --> 00:50:52,347
Speaker 17: sixty because of course Sabolanca didn't win the previous year

895
00:50:52,387 --> 00:50:55,707
Speaker 17: that was Medicine Keys. Then a lot of people going

896
00:50:55,907 --> 00:50:59,587
Speaker 17: for right dark naught because well, they wanted to see

897
00:50:59,627 --> 00:51:03,747
Speaker 17: her just quietly win and maybe well, sometimes the crowd

898
00:51:03,787 --> 00:51:08,827
Speaker 17: doesn't always like the should put it. The aggressiveness of Sablenka,

899
00:51:08,827 --> 00:51:11,827
Speaker 17: they're sort of in your face aggressiveness, whereas the more

900
00:51:12,027 --> 00:51:16,707
Speaker 17: passive personality of back In it just came across as

901
00:51:16,747 --> 00:51:19,267
Speaker 17: quite nice. You know, people wanted to see her do well.

902
00:51:19,547 --> 00:51:21,587
Speaker 17: You know, she was run around, as you said, a

903
00:51:21,627 --> 00:51:24,987
Speaker 17: couple of years back to Sabalenka, So I feel that

904
00:51:25,027 --> 00:51:27,987
Speaker 17: the crowd was probably slightly in her favor, more so

905
00:51:28,107 --> 00:51:31,867
Speaker 17: than Seblanka. You know, Sebalanka is an interesting one. She's

906
00:51:31,867 --> 00:51:33,987
Speaker 17: got all these quirky sort of things that she does

907
00:51:33,987 --> 00:51:36,907
Speaker 17: with her coaches and teams, sort of beforehand and after,

908
00:51:36,987 --> 00:51:40,027
Speaker 17: like drawing all over her coach's head and it's interesting,

909
00:51:40,067 --> 00:51:43,787
Speaker 17: I guess and other things by that. But then on

910
00:51:43,827 --> 00:51:46,867
Speaker 17: the court, yeah, it's sort of the on camera, off

911
00:51:46,947 --> 00:51:47,627
Speaker 17: camera thing.

912
00:51:47,507 --> 00:51:48,187
Speaker 10: That she has.

913
00:51:48,947 --> 00:51:50,307
Speaker 17: It is really interesting to watch.

914
00:51:50,387 --> 00:51:51,347
Speaker 10: So I don't know.

915
00:51:51,427 --> 00:51:55,707
Speaker 17: I feel sometimes she can be quite as much as

916
00:51:56,547 --> 00:51:59,267
Speaker 17: as Zeev, but sometimes she can be a little harder

917
00:51:59,307 --> 00:51:59,667
Speaker 17: to like.

918
00:52:01,267 --> 00:52:03,667
Speaker 3: That's got to the means. Final tonight Carlos el Karez

919
00:52:03,867 --> 00:52:06,027
Speaker 3: his firstest writing and Open final, looking to become the

920
00:52:06,067 --> 00:52:10,147
Speaker 3: younger ever to complete a career Slam against Novak Djokovic,

921
00:52:10,147 --> 00:52:13,787
Speaker 3: who is looking for his eleventh Australian Open title. In

922
00:52:13,827 --> 00:52:17,907
Speaker 3: his eleventh final. It would be his twenty fifth major win.

923
00:52:19,667 --> 00:52:21,347
Speaker 3: El Karez's favorite, isn't.

924
00:52:21,147 --> 00:52:24,227
Speaker 14: He slight favorite?

925
00:52:24,227 --> 00:52:27,947
Speaker 17: I think you can never count out someone like Djokovic,

926
00:52:27,987 --> 00:52:31,147
Speaker 17: as we found out the other day. I mean, Djokovic

927
00:52:31,667 --> 00:52:34,947
Speaker 17: hasn't done all the promotional work. He didn't even play

928
00:52:34,947 --> 00:52:37,027
Speaker 17: a tournament leading up to the Australian Open. He kept

929
00:52:37,107 --> 00:52:40,347
Speaker 17: himself extremely quiet. Whether or not it was an injury

930
00:52:40,347 --> 00:52:42,867
Speaker 17: beforehand or not, we don't know, but he just kept

931
00:52:42,947 --> 00:52:46,387
Speaker 17: out of the limelight until the Australian Open actually started.

932
00:52:46,627 --> 00:52:48,387
Speaker 17: Of course, we know that he didn't have to play

933
00:52:48,387 --> 00:52:51,587
Speaker 17: one match. You know, he's just sort of gone through nicely,

934
00:52:51,747 --> 00:52:54,907
Speaker 17: relatively quietly until he got to the semifinals. Then he

935
00:52:54,987 --> 00:52:58,587
Speaker 17: started being quite poignant with his remarks and telling people, hey,

936
00:52:58,587 --> 00:53:01,867
Speaker 17: you've forgotten about me. You know, I still lead with

937
00:53:01,947 --> 00:53:05,307
Speaker 17: the Grand Slams. I'm still number one, albeit not in

938
00:53:05,307 --> 00:53:07,467
Speaker 17: the rankings, but he can it is that he's number one,

939
00:53:07,747 --> 00:53:10,467
Speaker 17: and he was very poigned with some of his remarks

940
00:53:10,507 --> 00:53:13,387
Speaker 17: after his semi final, when he didn't even come up

941
00:53:13,427 --> 00:53:15,467
Speaker 17: to the main media conference, he decided to do it

942
00:53:15,827 --> 00:53:19,747
Speaker 17: downstairs in the hallways, which was kind of interesting. He

943
00:53:19,787 --> 00:53:22,587
Speaker 17: decided that he was dictating terms full stop.

944
00:53:22,667 --> 00:53:22,947
Speaker 14: That's it.

945
00:53:23,227 --> 00:53:25,547
Speaker 17: I am the person, I am number one, I am

946
00:53:25,587 --> 00:53:28,067
Speaker 17: at and he really had a go at some journalists

947
00:53:28,067 --> 00:53:30,307
Speaker 17: on that, like you guys said that I've been chasing

948
00:53:31,307 --> 00:53:33,427
Speaker 17: Sinner and al Carez they're chasing me.

949
00:53:35,347 --> 00:53:38,267
Speaker 3: Love that el Carez. There was a lot of controversy

950
00:53:38,307 --> 00:53:42,667
Speaker 3: in his semi final win over Alexander's Veriev with regards

951
00:53:42,667 --> 00:53:45,467
Speaker 3: to the medical timeout that he took when it just

952
00:53:45,507 --> 00:53:49,227
Speaker 3: appeared as though he had cramp. Has there been major

953
00:53:49,267 --> 00:53:50,187
Speaker 3: blowback about that.

954
00:53:52,427 --> 00:53:55,147
Speaker 17: It's an interesting one because I mean, how do you

955
00:53:55,267 --> 00:53:59,347
Speaker 17: tell if your opponent is injured or is just cramping.

956
00:54:00,027 --> 00:54:03,187
Speaker 17: I can't tell you that. And you're over forty fives,

957
00:54:03,627 --> 00:54:06,267
Speaker 17: you know, over forty five football finally that you're cramping,

958
00:54:06,547 --> 00:54:09,027
Speaker 17: you probably are actually and it as well, but I mean,

959
00:54:10,867 --> 00:54:12,147
Speaker 17: what's your whole team actually?

960
00:54:12,307 --> 00:54:14,707
Speaker 10: But I mean that's that's the thing.

961
00:54:14,747 --> 00:54:17,587
Speaker 17: I mean, how do you tell about someone else and

962
00:54:17,587 --> 00:54:20,267
Speaker 17: how much pain or what they're feeling. And it was

963
00:54:20,307 --> 00:54:22,107
Speaker 17: it was a fair point that said, I've did make

964
00:54:22,187 --> 00:54:23,787
Speaker 17: you know, you're saying, hey, this is not right. You

965
00:54:23,787 --> 00:54:29,107
Speaker 17: know he's getting treatment for cramping. When al Chiraz said, well, yeah,

966
00:54:29,147 --> 00:54:31,467
Speaker 17: there was, there was. I thought it was actually start

967
00:54:31,467 --> 00:54:34,627
Speaker 17: of an injury my upper upper right leg and my

968
00:54:34,747 --> 00:54:38,307
Speaker 17: upper court. I think I thought it was actually becoming

969
00:54:38,347 --> 00:54:41,467
Speaker 17: an injury. He said, I didn't know that it was cramped. Yes,

970
00:54:41,467 --> 00:54:44,307
Speaker 17: it was part of cramp. We're also got to understand

971
00:54:44,547 --> 00:54:49,227
Speaker 17: finding that cramp isn't necessarily just a conditioning thing. It's

972
00:54:49,267 --> 00:54:52,467
Speaker 17: also the stress that comes with what you're doing. The

973
00:54:52,547 --> 00:54:55,787
Speaker 17: stress of trying to win slam, semi final or quarter final,

974
00:54:55,827 --> 00:55:01,787
Speaker 17: any match. The mental stress does contribute to the physicalness

975
00:55:02,067 --> 00:55:05,507
Speaker 17: of cramp. That's now improven and you know, it actually

976
00:55:05,507 --> 00:55:08,947
Speaker 17: does add to it. So yeah, was he cramping. Yes,

977
00:55:08,987 --> 00:55:11,227
Speaker 17: he looked as though he was cramping, although again I

978
00:55:11,267 --> 00:55:16,347
Speaker 17: don't know. It certainly looked that way. However, it may

979
00:55:16,387 --> 00:55:18,187
Speaker 17: have also been an injury and that's what he was

980
00:55:18,227 --> 00:55:20,827
Speaker 17: getting treatments for. It was a very good point by

981
00:55:21,187 --> 00:55:23,587
Speaker 17: Zev to actually say, hey, you can't be treated for cramp.

982
00:55:24,187 --> 00:55:26,747
Speaker 17: But was he actually being treated for cramp? You know,

983
00:55:26,787 --> 00:55:29,547
Speaker 17: we start to get into the semantics of yes, you are, no,

984
00:55:29,667 --> 00:55:31,307
Speaker 17: you've not what is cramp and what isn't?

985
00:55:32,627 --> 00:55:35,467
Speaker 3: Well, you've nowled about my football team, if that's any

986
00:55:35,507 --> 00:55:40,467
Speaker 3: consolation to you. Just so, just a similar question to

987
00:55:40,507 --> 00:55:45,467
Speaker 3: the women's final. Who will the crowd be cheering for tonight?

988
00:55:47,147 --> 00:55:50,227
Speaker 17: That's gonna be interesting. I mean, I don't know. It's

989
00:55:50,267 --> 00:55:52,627
Speaker 17: one thing that al Chaz has been well, it's not

990
00:55:52,667 --> 00:55:54,787
Speaker 17: so much paying people who are cheer from but he's

991
00:55:54,827 --> 00:55:58,347
Speaker 17: been giving away tickets to Spanish supporters. Imagine you're just

992
00:55:58,387 --> 00:56:02,667
Speaker 17: sort of a Spanish and you're around the crowd and

993
00:56:02,707 --> 00:56:04,547
Speaker 17: around the venue when someone comes up to you and says,

994
00:56:04,827 --> 00:56:06,587
Speaker 17: Carlos would like you to go to the finals some

995
00:56:06,627 --> 00:56:08,707
Speaker 17: tickets as long as you chair for them. It's kind

996
00:56:08,747 --> 00:56:13,187
Speaker 17: of pretty cool. Okay, sure, you know, I think there's

997
00:56:13,227 --> 00:56:15,747
Speaker 17: going to be a real fifty fifty because, as you've said,

998
00:56:16,427 --> 00:56:18,907
Speaker 17: there's four and against for both players. I mean, you

999
00:56:18,947 --> 00:56:21,667
Speaker 17: want one to win twenty fifth and he's already won

1000
00:56:21,707 --> 00:56:24,027
Speaker 17: at ten times, so you've kind of got the history there.

1001
00:56:24,307 --> 00:56:26,747
Speaker 17: Another one to win it for his first time and

1002
00:56:26,787 --> 00:56:31,347
Speaker 17: get the career Grand Spam or his personal career Grand Slam.

1003
00:56:31,467 --> 00:56:33,947
Speaker 17: So yeah, there's there's four and against both and I

1004
00:56:34,027 --> 00:56:36,867
Speaker 17: like it. It's a real fifty fifty, and I think

1005
00:56:37,427 --> 00:56:40,747
Speaker 17: it'll be last man standing because as we know from

1006
00:56:40,747 --> 00:56:43,747
Speaker 17: both of those semi finals, you know your body's could

1007
00:56:43,747 --> 00:56:45,667
Speaker 17: be sore both of them. You have got one who's

1008
00:56:45,707 --> 00:56:49,307
Speaker 17: thirty eight and one who's twenty two, who is still

1009
00:56:49,307 --> 00:56:50,787
Speaker 17: going to be standing at the end of.

1010
00:56:50,907 --> 00:56:53,867
Speaker 10: Mayty five sets or at the end of three sets.

1011
00:56:54,667 --> 00:56:58,707
Speaker 3: Yeah, an intriguing final to finish a very interesting couple

1012
00:56:58,707 --> 00:57:00,387
Speaker 3: of weeks. Steve, thanks for joining us. Might have enjoyed

1013
00:57:00,427 --> 00:57:03,107
Speaker 3: your coverage across the tournament. Really appreciate you taking the

1014
00:57:03,147 --> 00:57:04,227
Speaker 3: time this afternoon as well.

1015
00:57:05,027 --> 00:57:06,627
Speaker 14: No worries, fine, thank you all the.

1016
00:57:06,587 --> 00:57:10,787
Speaker 3: Best, mate. Dave Worsley at his fiftieth his fiftieth major

1017
00:57:10,867 --> 00:57:14,907
Speaker 3: tournament and well a depth of knowledge that we greatly

1018
00:57:14,947 --> 00:57:18,467
Speaker 3: appreciate here on News Talk. Za'd b so Alcaaz and

1019
00:57:18,547 --> 00:57:22,227
Speaker 3: Djokovic in the men's final tonight. It's about nine o'clock.

1020
00:57:22,267 --> 00:57:24,787
Speaker 3: Does it sound right nine o'clock tonight, but later nine

1021
00:57:24,747 --> 00:57:28,227
Speaker 3: to forty five am I seeing here? Al Karez? If

1022
00:57:28,227 --> 00:57:31,507
Speaker 3: we just want to get some indication as to the favoritism,

1023
00:57:32,147 --> 00:57:34,707
Speaker 3: Alcaraz is paying at our tab a dollar thirty three

1024
00:57:34,787 --> 00:57:38,867
Speaker 3: to win Novak Djokovic three dollars twenty five, So you'd

1025
00:57:38,907 --> 00:57:42,747
Speaker 3: say Alcaaz is a firm favorite. In terms of sets betting,

1026
00:57:42,827 --> 00:57:46,587
Speaker 3: you can pick on you can pick the set score.

1027
00:57:47,507 --> 00:57:49,627
Speaker 3: The favored way is Alkarez to win it in straight

1028
00:57:49,707 --> 00:57:53,227
Speaker 3: sets two dollars sixty, Alcarez to win it three to

1029
00:57:53,267 --> 00:57:56,747
Speaker 3: one three dollars sixty, and Alcarez to win it in

1030
00:57:56,867 --> 00:58:00,507
Speaker 3: five is paying six dollars. Djokovic to win it in

1031
00:58:00,547 --> 00:58:04,147
Speaker 3: three is the outside bet. If you think Djokovic is

1032
00:58:04,147 --> 00:58:05,947
Speaker 3: going to win it in three and he does, you'll

1033
00:58:05,947 --> 00:58:09,827
Speaker 3: get paid nine dollars on that. So Ossie Open Final

1034
00:58:09,867 --> 00:58:12,867
Speaker 3: Men's Final, Carlos el Karez Novak Djokovic tonight, looking forward

1035
00:58:12,867 --> 00:58:14,787
Speaker 3: to seeing how that plays out. And another night of

1036
00:58:14,907 --> 00:58:17,507
Speaker 3: very little sleep, perhaps because who knows if the semis

1037
00:58:17,547 --> 00:58:20,867
Speaker 3: or anything to go by and we could still be

1038
00:58:20,947 --> 00:58:23,907
Speaker 3: up in the early hours of tomorrow morning watching these

1039
00:58:23,947 --> 00:58:27,507
Speaker 3: two battle it out on Rod Labor for Australian Open

1040
00:58:27,587 --> 00:58:30,827
Speaker 3: Supremacy one twenty four take Away come Back and flick

1041
00:58:30,827 --> 00:58:33,227
Speaker 3: our attention across to Football One who have a looked

1042
00:58:33,227 --> 00:58:36,267
Speaker 3: back at Auckland f C's loss out west to Perth

1043
00:58:36,307 --> 00:58:39,307
Speaker 3: Glory last night, but also one of their best players

1044
00:58:39,307 --> 00:58:42,827
Speaker 3: this season, Jesse Randall has been rewarded for that form

1045
00:58:42,867 --> 00:58:46,307
Speaker 3: with a move to the Scottish Premier League. Paul Eifel,

1046
00:58:46,347 --> 00:58:50,347
Speaker 3: former Phoenix player now Skysport commentator and analyst and football coach,

1047
00:58:50,667 --> 00:58:52,907
Speaker 3: going to join us to talk about Jesse Randall when

1048
00:58:52,907 --> 00:58:53,347
Speaker 3: we come.

1049
00:58:53,227 --> 00:58:57,867
Speaker 1: Back the Tough Questions after Turf Weekend Sport with Jason

1050
00:58:57,947 --> 00:59:01,867
Speaker 1: hin and GJ. Garnnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder

1051
00:59:01,947 --> 00:59:02,587
Speaker 1: News Dog.

1052
00:59:03,787 --> 00:59:08,347
Speaker 3: One twenty seven inform. Auckland F's forward Jesse Randall is

1053
00:59:08,387 --> 00:59:11,267
Speaker 3: on the move after the current season and Football's A

1054
00:59:11,387 --> 00:59:14,867
Speaker 3: League comes to a close. Randall little darning step is

1055
00:59:14,987 --> 00:59:15,747
Speaker 3: so good.

1056
00:59:15,547 --> 00:59:21,107
Speaker 19: For Rendal a girl, Jesse Randall and on the other

1057
00:59:21,227 --> 00:59:21,987
Speaker 19: side of the world.

1058
00:59:22,027 --> 00:59:22,707
Speaker 3: It's Scotland.

1059
00:59:23,227 --> 00:59:27,027
Speaker 19: Tell me what ching say? How good was that from

1060
00:59:27,187 --> 00:59:28,067
Speaker 19: Jesse Randall?

1061
00:59:28,267 --> 00:59:30,827
Speaker 3: Yeah, sixth goal of the season last night for Jesse

1062
00:59:30,947 --> 00:59:34,107
Speaker 3: Randall and Auckland FC's two to one loss to Perth Glory.

1063
00:59:34,187 --> 00:59:37,107
Speaker 3: More on that in the moment. Scottish Premiership side Dundee

1064
00:59:37,227 --> 00:59:40,267
Speaker 3: United have announced the signing of Randall on a pre

1065
00:59:40,307 --> 00:59:42,827
Speaker 3: contract agreement. He signed a two year deal with a

1066
00:59:42,827 --> 00:59:46,627
Speaker 3: club option for an additional year. Let's bring in former

1067
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Speaker 3: Wellington Phoenix centuryon Skysport football analyst and football coach Paul Eiffel. Paul,

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Speaker 3: thanks for Johnny's Can you remember the first time you

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00:59:54,667 --> 00:59:56,467
Speaker 3: saw Jesse Randall play football?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, years and years ago.

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Speaker 20: He was in Matt Corcott's academy I think it's called

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Speaker 20: inside right, and I was running my academy PIFA, and

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01:00:07,747 --> 01:00:11,027
Speaker 20: we played very often against each other and he was

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Speaker 20: pretty clearly their best player. And that's saying something because

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Speaker 20: they add the Kelly Hills and a couple of others

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Speaker 20: that have gone prior. I think the Manuel Brothers were

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Speaker 20: there as well, so he was doing some good stuff

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Speaker 20: at the academy, but Jesse was far and away the

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Speaker 20: best In my opinion, I was surprised it took him

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Speaker 20: so long to sort of get into professional football, but

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Speaker 20: he's a pretty shy kid. But once he did, he

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01:00:35,067 --> 01:00:37,547
Speaker 20: was kind of in and out, and then came back

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Speaker 20: to us for a few months, and again I thought

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Speaker 20: he was ready to go back in and in Julie did.

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Speaker 20: When Auckland left, C took a punch and it took

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Speaker 20: him a little bit of time to be honest, to

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Speaker 20: show people what we can do. But certainly this season

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Speaker 20: he's been peerless.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Dean he has. Where have you seen the

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01:00:53,027 --> 01:00:56,467
Speaker 3: big improvements in his game this season? In particular?

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Speaker 20: I think it's confidence, If I'm honest, I think it's

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Speaker 20: all that. That ability has always been there, and I

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01:01:02,107 --> 01:01:05,707
Speaker 20: think he just needed to feel confident and the people

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Speaker 20: around him confident in what he could do. Because he's

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Speaker 20: one of those you can just get him the board

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Speaker 20: and let him do his stuff. If he's isolated one,

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Speaker 20: we want just to leave him to it. I think

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Speaker 20: if you, if anybody saw the goal last last night,

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Speaker 20: it was something out of nothing. But he does things

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Speaker 20: like that all the time and we're just starting to

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Speaker 20: see it. So it's kind of disappointed that we're not

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Speaker 20: going to see.

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Speaker 2: More of it.

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Speaker 20: Hopefully we get to see a bit more of it

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Speaker 20: before between now on the end of the season, but

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Speaker 20: certainly Dundee picked a good one.

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Speaker 3: Does he have more improvement in him?

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Speaker 20: Do you think, oh, there's loads more, not just improvement,

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01:01:37,147 --> 01:01:39,067
Speaker 20: there's there's more ability that we haven't even seen yet.

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Speaker 20: And I said that a couple of weeks ago on

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Speaker 20: the skybroadcast, and I think people will look at me

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Speaker 20: and sort of said, he is, He's serious, But honestly,

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Speaker 20: there's more. He's he's such a nice kid, he's so shy.

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Speaker 20: I think he's just starting to come out of his shell.

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Speaker 20: He's almost one of those guys that doesn't want to

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01:01:54,267 --> 01:01:56,387
Speaker 20: show off, if you know what I mean. But I

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01:01:56,427 --> 01:01:58,947
Speaker 20: think he's just starting to do that. So I think

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Speaker 20: that's Dundee probably looks at him gone that there's plenty

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Speaker 20: more here that we can find a way to get out. So,

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Speaker 20: like I said, I think I think there's a really

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Speaker 20: a studte signer.

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Speaker 3: Do you think there's something he might have to work on?

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Speaker 3: You know, you never want a footballer to be arrogant,

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Speaker 3: but confidence is a positive quality, does it? Does he

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Speaker 3: have to be a bit more like that, I feel

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Speaker 3: or yeah.

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Speaker 20: No, I think I think it does. I think he's

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Speaker 20: a pitch persona thing. I saw an interview a few

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Speaker 20: weeks back with Roy Keane talking about how he had

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Speaker 20: a completely different pitch persona and he had to actually

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Speaker 20: actively practice that and he was almost like he was acting.

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Speaker 20: And you know, I'm not going to be willing to

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Speaker 20: tell Jesse what to do because I think he's sort

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Speaker 20: of getting there. But that might be something he needs

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Speaker 20: to look into, because I think he needs to be

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01:02:40,107 --> 01:02:42,827
Speaker 20: a bit nasty and a bit you know, show off,

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Speaker 20: give me the ball, I'll do something with this. And

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Speaker 20: I think when he when he has, he's been so electric,

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Speaker 20: so I think I think that will come though, because

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01:02:50,827 --> 01:02:53,867
Speaker 20: you know, he's still learning his trade and he's still

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01:02:53,907 --> 01:02:56,027
Speaker 20: getting people to trust what he can do. But that's

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01:02:56,067 --> 01:02:57,987
Speaker 20: certainly changing week in week out.

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Speaker 3: He's going to the Scottish Premier League. We know Elijah

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Speaker 3: Justice there at the moment with mother, Well where does

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01:03:03,427 --> 01:03:07,267
Speaker 3: that league sit in terms of standard? Eye it's clearly

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01:03:07,347 --> 01:03:11,267
Speaker 3: not the premier league in the UK, but decent standard

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Speaker 3: and how do you evaluate Jesse's ability to take the

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Speaker 3: step to that standard?

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Speaker 20: I think it's firstly, I think it's a great move.

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Speaker 20: I think it's a sort of move where if he

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Speaker 20: goes and does well there, then we are talking and

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Speaker 20: move to the English Premier League.

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Speaker 6: I think there is that pathway there.

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Speaker 20: I would suggest at the moment it's somewhere sort of

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Speaker 20: mid mid championship in England, so again a step up

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01:03:34,947 --> 01:03:39,747
Speaker 20: from what he's doing. I think he's ready to go

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Speaker 20: in there and do well straight away. And I think

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Speaker 20: if you look at Elijah just didn't take him too

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Speaker 20: long to sort of hit the ground running. They are different,

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Speaker 20: but yet they're both sort of tricky, tricky winners that

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01:03:52,147 --> 01:03:54,067
Speaker 20: you know, low center of gravity, can move the ball

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Speaker 20: really quickly, got a trick and got a goal in them.

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Speaker 20: So in terms of that, like I said, I think

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Speaker 20: it's a stude from Dundee because I think he'll be

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Speaker 20: able to do similar.

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Speaker 3: He's in the last couple of years also made his

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Speaker 3: way into the national side. If Darren Baizley was naming

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Speaker 3: his World Cup squad today, would Jesse be in it?

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Speaker 20: Oh, I'd love to think so. I think he's done

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Speaker 20: enough just this year. I think, you know, especially when

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Speaker 20: we're looking and we're uncertain as to whether Chris Wood

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Speaker 20: is going to be fit where we're going to get

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Speaker 20: goals from. I don't think you replace the goals that

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Speaker 20: Chris Wood would give you with one player. We might

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Speaker 20: have to do that with three or four. And I

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Speaker 20: think Jesse is that in that conversation, along with a

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Speaker 20: few others that are making a late running through the

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Speaker 20: bay less who's doing well for Newcastle so that it's

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Speaker 20: nice for Darwen to have a few other options, I suppose.

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Speaker 3: And Jesse scored again last night. You mentioned his goal before,

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Speaker 3: has six to the season, but Auckland FC beaten two

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Speaker 3: one at Perth Glory, just one win in the last six.

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Speaker 3: When do we officially say that Auckland FC are in

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Speaker 3: a bit of a slump.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I think they are in a little bit of

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Speaker 20: a slump, but I've said it over the last few weeks.

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Speaker 20: It's not a bad place too slump. I think they're

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Speaker 20: going to come again and I think, you know, look

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Speaker 20: at it last night. I think they were going to

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Speaker 20: it so well. I think the injury to Olie's Sale

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01:05:04,747 --> 01:05:08,947
Speaker 20: certainly changed things. Michael Valde will be you know, gutted

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01:05:08,947 --> 01:05:12,747
Speaker 20: he's been dropped. Unfortunately, Sale comes in and was doing

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01:05:12,747 --> 01:05:15,427
Speaker 20: really well and then vald comes in, gets a chance

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01:05:15,427 --> 01:05:18,627
Speaker 20: again and quickly lets them two goals, not saying that

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Speaker 20: they were either of them were his fault at all,

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Speaker 20: but must be difficult, so expect him to get another

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Speaker 20: run back in the team. But yeah, they really need

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Speaker 20: to bounce back in the next game and make sure

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Speaker 20: they get back on a run.

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Speaker 21: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I've got an interesting little period coming up SYDNEYFC that's

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01:05:34,307 --> 01:05:36,907
Speaker 3: coming weekend or next weekend, then Sydney f C again

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01:05:36,987 --> 01:05:40,107
Speaker 3: in a resheduled game, and then then the third derby.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's just say that the bounce back is

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01:05:42,987 --> 01:05:44,987
Speaker 3: kind of needed for them, although I mean, let's not

1206
01:05:45,147 --> 01:05:46,987
Speaker 3: it's carried away if they're still in the top three,

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01:05:47,027 --> 01:05:47,587
Speaker 3: aren't they.

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, like I said, it's not a bad place to be.

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Speaker 20: I expect them to bounce back, but then I expected

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01:05:52,867 --> 01:05:55,307
Speaker 20: them to win last night. So over the last few

1212
01:05:55,347 --> 01:05:57,027
Speaker 20: weeks in this sort of stuff, I keep thinking, well,

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01:05:57,027 --> 01:05:58,267
Speaker 20: this will be the game that they turn it around,

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01:05:58,267 --> 01:06:01,707
Speaker 20: and it hasn't quite eventuated. So I think Steve Colicker

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01:06:02,027 --> 01:06:04,667
Speaker 20: will be looking into what's going on. He's a very

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01:06:05,587 --> 01:06:07,947
Speaker 20: very smart guy. He's been excellent in his time there,

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01:06:07,947 --> 01:06:10,547
Speaker 20: So I just don't see this going for too much

1218
01:06:10,587 --> 01:06:12,467
Speaker 20: longer that you know, they're a group of winners and

1219
01:06:12,507 --> 01:06:14,987
Speaker 20: I think they'll be holding each other accountable and we'll

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Speaker 20: bounce back pretty quickly.

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Speaker 3: And just back to Jesse to finisher. You mentioned where

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01:06:18,787 --> 01:06:21,067
Speaker 3: he might end up. He's only twenty three years old,

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01:06:21,147 --> 01:06:24,747
Speaker 3: so you know, another decade or more perhaps at the

1224
01:06:24,787 --> 01:06:27,107
Speaker 3: top level. Are we talking about a guy who could

1225
01:06:27,187 --> 01:06:28,867
Speaker 3: play Premier League?

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Speaker 20: Definitely, in my opinion, A lot of things have to

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01:06:30,867 --> 01:06:34,227
Speaker 20: fall into places. It's a whole different beast, but I

1228
01:06:34,267 --> 01:06:38,427
Speaker 20: think he has everything. Probably that last bit is that

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01:06:38,547 --> 01:06:41,827
Speaker 20: little bit of confidence. But you know, I think you

1230
01:06:41,867 --> 01:06:44,587
Speaker 20: look at the fact that he's signed in the Scottish

1231
01:06:44,627 --> 01:06:46,507
Speaker 20: Premier League. I think you could see a little bit

1232
01:06:46,547 --> 01:06:49,747
Speaker 20: of swagger last night. Maybe he doesn't score that goal

1233
01:06:49,747 --> 01:06:52,147
Speaker 20: too three weeks ago, Maybe doesn't take that opportunity to

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01:06:52,467 --> 01:06:54,387
Speaker 20: play at one side of the defender, run through and

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Speaker 20: then just a really composed finish, So hopefully that gives

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Speaker 20: him a little bit of a g up. I mean,

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01:06:59,787 --> 01:07:03,227
Speaker 20: he could go close to getting the Golden Boot this season.

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01:07:03,227 --> 01:07:04,827
Speaker 20: I think, in my opinion, if he does that, then

1239
01:07:04,867 --> 01:07:05,947
Speaker 20: who knows where he ends up?

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Speaker 3: Ded It's an exciting time for him and for his

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01:07:10,187 --> 01:07:12,907
Speaker 3: family and those involved with Jesse Randall's development. Thanks, I

1242
01:07:12,987 --> 01:07:14,667
Speaker 3: feel great the chat has always appreciate your time.

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Speaker 11: Dy.

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Speaker 3: Thanks mate. That is Paul Eifel, of course, always with

1245
01:07:18,627 --> 01:07:20,867
Speaker 3: great views on the game and a big fan. As

1246
01:07:20,907 --> 01:07:22,827
Speaker 3: you can hear, they're of Jesse Randall, a player who

1247
01:07:22,867 --> 01:07:26,027
Speaker 3: he's had a lot to do with and has given

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01:07:26,067 --> 01:07:29,947
Speaker 3: his stamp of approval to. There a big future ahead

1249
01:07:30,027 --> 01:07:33,347
Speaker 3: of Jesse Randall. He scored last night, as mentioned, to

1250
01:07:33,347 --> 01:07:35,507
Speaker 3: give Auckland f C a one nill lead over Perth

1251
01:07:35,547 --> 01:07:38,987
Speaker 3: Glory in the first half, but two late goals from

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01:07:39,067 --> 01:07:43,227
Speaker 3: substitute Jaden Kucharski have given Perth Glory a two to

1253
01:07:43,227 --> 01:07:47,827
Speaker 3: one win over Auckland FC, and that completes a fairly.

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01:07:48,827 --> 01:07:51,907
Speaker 3: I was going to say miserable January. Well, it's a

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01:07:51,987 --> 01:07:55,907
Speaker 3: January in which Auckland FC have played six games and

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01:07:56,027 --> 01:07:58,947
Speaker 3: only won one of them, so a bit of a

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01:07:58,987 --> 01:08:02,987
Speaker 3: mid season slump, you might say for the reigning Premier years.

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01:08:03,067 --> 01:08:06,107
Speaker 3: What did head coach Steve Coricker make of last nights

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01:08:06,107 --> 01:08:07,587
Speaker 3: before moments on the whole.

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Speaker 22: It was pretty scrappy match, I think obviously, I think

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01:08:11,667 --> 01:08:15,547
Speaker 22: we we controlled the match in the first half, scored

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Speaker 22: a really good goal.

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Speaker 23: When in at halftime knowing that they're going to come.

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01:08:21,667 --> 01:08:28,467
Speaker 22: Out obviously, and uh yeah, obviously the goals. One was

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01:08:28,467 --> 01:08:30,707
Speaker 22: a long ball. We didn't deal with the long ball

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Speaker 22: in behind. Kachawsky is quick, and the other one we

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01:08:36,547 --> 01:08:40,267
Speaker 22: gave the ball away in an attacking opportunity and we

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01:08:40,267 --> 01:08:45,147
Speaker 22: got caught on the transition forward for for Perths. And

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Speaker 22: again it was two good two good goals. We did

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01:08:52,187 --> 01:08:55,067
Speaker 22: this against Melbourne City. We were leading one nil and

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Speaker 22: we lost to one. So unfortunately it's started to become

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01:08:58,507 --> 01:09:00,307
Speaker 22: a habit, which is which is not good for us.

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Speaker 3: There's as much and the pauses and that to answer

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01:09:02,787 --> 01:09:05,307
Speaker 3: as there is in the actual worst that Steve Kraka

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01:09:05,387 --> 01:09:07,947
Speaker 3: sees you can you can tell and watching it, I

1276
01:09:08,027 --> 01:09:09,267
Speaker 3: know you can only hear it on the radio, but

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01:09:09,307 --> 01:09:11,547
Speaker 3: watching it you just see he's just kind of searching

1278
01:09:11,587 --> 01:09:14,187
Speaker 3: for answers, really, and that doesn't mean he doesn't have

1279
01:09:14,227 --> 01:09:15,707
Speaker 3: the answers. He's just had a bit of a loss

1280
01:09:15,707 --> 01:09:20,027
Speaker 3: to explain why it's been so difficult for them in

1281
01:09:20,067 --> 01:09:24,507
Speaker 3: recent games to win games. Was the heat effect or

1282
01:09:24,587 --> 01:09:26,747
Speaker 3: the time difference having to go all the way to

1283
01:09:26,827 --> 01:09:27,707
Speaker 3: Western Australia.

1284
01:09:28,307 --> 01:09:32,347
Speaker 22: No, no, I won't use that instant excuse why we

1285
01:09:32,427 --> 01:09:35,227
Speaker 22: lost the game. You know, we were in front till halftime.

1286
01:09:35,627 --> 01:09:36,867
Speaker 22: We knew they were going to come out and do

1287
01:09:36,907 --> 01:09:39,107
Speaker 22: something different, which they did. They went a lot longer

1288
01:09:39,187 --> 01:09:41,747
Speaker 22: obviously with the wind as well, we didn't cope with it.

1289
01:09:41,947 --> 01:09:46,947
Speaker 22: And yeah, you know it's a hot, hot night. Obviously

1290
01:09:47,747 --> 01:09:50,947
Speaker 22: there was a bit of a breeze there though, but yeah,

1291
01:09:51,027 --> 01:09:55,227
Speaker 22: no that doesn't play in factoring in the outcome of

1292
01:09:55,267 --> 01:09:55,587
Speaker 22: the game.

1293
01:09:55,707 --> 01:09:58,267
Speaker 3: And just finally from Steve Kurriker, his thoughts on Jessie

1294
01:09:58,347 --> 01:10:00,507
Speaker 3: Randall and his imminent move to Scotland.

1295
01:10:00,667 --> 01:10:02,267
Speaker 23: Yeah, he's obviously done really well.

1296
01:10:03,707 --> 01:10:05,867
Speaker 22: He's got himself a move which is you know what

1297
01:10:06,467 --> 01:10:10,747
Speaker 22: most kids want to do, play play overseas and try

1298
01:10:10,787 --> 01:10:15,627
Speaker 22: and you get better. And so the goal itself was

1299
01:10:15,707 --> 01:10:17,947
Speaker 22: a very good goal. You know, he's been in I

1300
01:10:17,987 --> 01:10:21,387
Speaker 22: think he's five or six now goals, so he's doing

1301
01:10:21,427 --> 01:10:26,147
Speaker 22: really well. He's working hard for the team. So yeah,

1302
01:10:26,627 --> 01:10:28,067
Speaker 22: you know we just need him to keep going and

1303
01:10:28,147 --> 01:10:31,787
Speaker 22: keep improving all the time and keep scoring goals.

1304
01:10:31,867 --> 01:10:32,787
Speaker 3: That's Steve Corika.

1305
01:10:32,867 --> 01:10:33,067
Speaker 10: Now.

1306
01:10:33,667 --> 01:10:36,547
Speaker 3: A funny little layer of this result last night was

1307
01:10:36,587 --> 01:10:40,067
Speaker 3: that the two goals for Perth for Jaden Kochwski, the

1308
01:10:40,667 --> 01:10:44,707
Speaker 3: young sub off the bench. The assists the passes for

1309
01:10:44,747 --> 01:10:48,947
Speaker 3: both of the goals were provided by former Wellington Phoenix players.

1310
01:10:48,987 --> 01:10:51,507
Speaker 3: Scott Woodton played a long ball for the first one

1311
01:10:51,547 --> 01:10:54,387
Speaker 3: and Stefan Kolakowsky, who had quite a short stunt at

1312
01:10:54,427 --> 01:10:58,147
Speaker 3: the Phoenix before suffering a serious and injury, provided the second.

1313
01:10:58,187 --> 01:11:01,707
Speaker 3: Sam Sutton another former Phoenix players also in that team,

1314
01:11:01,827 --> 01:11:04,427
Speaker 3: so I guess there would have been smiles on the

1315
01:11:04,467 --> 01:11:08,787
Speaker 3: faces of those players particular as they played their part

1316
01:11:08,827 --> 01:11:14,027
Speaker 3: in beating Auckland FC. The other really really gusting part

1317
01:11:14,067 --> 01:11:17,747
Speaker 3: of this last night was that Ollie Sail, All Whites

1318
01:11:17,787 --> 01:11:21,587
Speaker 3: goalkeeper was given an opportunity to start the game. Michael Vaut,

1319
01:11:21,627 --> 01:11:25,547
Speaker 3: another All Whites goalkeeper, has started the previous fourteen matches,

1320
01:11:25,547 --> 01:11:28,587
Speaker 3: but last night Steve Coriker decided to make a change

1321
01:11:28,747 --> 01:11:31,707
Speaker 3: in goal and Oli Sale started the game and goal.

1322
01:11:31,827 --> 01:11:34,267
Speaker 3: But midway through the second half he went to take

1323
01:11:34,627 --> 01:11:40,947
Speaker 3: a goalkick very innocuous and his foot slipped his plant foot,

1324
01:11:41,107 --> 01:11:43,347
Speaker 3: not the foot he was kicking with. As his plant

1325
01:11:43,347 --> 01:11:45,827
Speaker 3: foot slipped as he went to take the goalkick, he

1326
01:11:45,907 --> 01:11:50,787
Speaker 3: fell awkwardly, and it has since been revealed that he

1327
01:11:50,867 --> 01:11:55,107
Speaker 3: suffered quite a serious tendon injury, one which will require

1328
01:11:55,187 --> 01:11:59,707
Speaker 3: surgery and which will have Olli sail out for months

1329
01:12:00,187 --> 01:12:03,827
Speaker 3: rather than weeks, which is such a devastating blow for

1330
01:12:03,947 --> 01:12:07,107
Speaker 3: him as a player but also for the club. So

1331
01:12:07,227 --> 01:12:10,667
Speaker 3: Michael Vaud had been dropped then had to come in

1332
01:12:10,667 --> 01:12:13,347
Speaker 3: in the second half and take his place back between

1333
01:12:13,347 --> 01:12:15,907
Speaker 3: the sticks. It was one mill at that stage to Walkland.

1334
01:12:16,067 --> 01:12:18,027
Speaker 3: They lost to one. I don't think Michael Vaut can

1335
01:12:18,067 --> 01:12:20,707
Speaker 3: do anything about the two goals, but it's just another

1336
01:12:20,787 --> 01:12:24,827
Speaker 3: layer of of intrigue around this one. To finish on

1337
01:12:24,827 --> 01:12:29,187
Speaker 3: a bright note, Auckland FC take on Sydney FC next Saturday,

1338
01:12:29,387 --> 01:12:32,707
Speaker 3: White Tounguy Weekend. Go Media Stadium, five o'clock kickoff. If

1339
01:12:32,707 --> 01:12:35,547
Speaker 3: you're in and around Auckland over White Tonguy weekend and

1340
01:12:35,587 --> 01:12:38,187
Speaker 3: you'd like to go along, I've got a six ticket

1341
01:12:38,187 --> 01:12:40,787
Speaker 3: family pass. If you'd like to be in the drawer

1342
01:12:40,867 --> 01:12:44,427
Speaker 3: for it, simply text AFC and your name to nine

1343
01:12:44,547 --> 01:12:47,147
Speaker 3: two nine two AFC and your name to nine two

1344
01:12:47,227 --> 01:12:49,067
Speaker 3: ninety two. We can't get you to Aukland, but if

1345
01:12:49,107 --> 01:12:51,107
Speaker 3: you're going to be in and around a six ticket

1346
01:12:51,147 --> 01:12:53,907
Speaker 3: family pass to watch Auckland FC take on Sydney FC.

1347
01:12:54,067 --> 01:12:57,307
Speaker 3: Go Media Stadium next Saturday, five o'clock AFC and your

1348
01:12:57,387 --> 01:13:00,347
Speaker 3: name to nine two nine two nineteen to two. We're

1349
01:13:00,347 --> 01:13:02,067
Speaker 3: back in a secon with James mconey.

1350
01:13:02,627 --> 01:13:06,707
Speaker 1: The biggest seas in sports are on weekend Sport Jason

1351
01:13:06,747 --> 01:13:10,827
Speaker 1: Pin and GJ. Gunnolds, New Zealand's most trusted home builder,

1352
01:13:10,947 --> 01:13:11,827
Speaker 1: News Dogs.

1353
01:13:11,707 --> 01:13:16,547
Speaker 3: Me coming up quarter to two Sundays. James mcconi in

1354
01:13:16,587 --> 01:13:17,267
Speaker 3: his regular slot.

1355
01:13:17,307 --> 01:13:19,907
Speaker 11: Hello mate, Yaks and mass.

1356
01:13:20,467 --> 01:13:21,787
Speaker 2: I love Kazakhstan.

1357
01:13:24,027 --> 01:13:28,627
Speaker 3: Is that your support? Elena Rode back Rye Paka, the

1358
01:13:28,747 --> 01:13:31,147
Speaker 3: Kazakhstan winner of the Aussie Open.

1359
01:13:31,667 --> 01:13:37,747
Speaker 11: Five five, Yeah, amazing, Yeah, River Kina what a player.

1360
01:13:37,947 --> 01:13:41,987
Speaker 11: It's just one of those stories where I mean, she's Russian,

1361
01:13:42,147 --> 01:13:45,347
Speaker 11: but Kazakhstan's got a billionaire who paid her money and

1362
01:13:45,467 --> 01:13:47,947
Speaker 11: she went to play over there and covered her costs,

1363
01:13:48,587 --> 01:13:50,347
Speaker 11: and you know, you sort of feel like that's how

1364
01:13:50,387 --> 01:13:54,747
Speaker 11: we lost Cam Norrie to Britain. Right, The money in

1365
01:13:54,827 --> 01:13:57,947
Speaker 11: Britain and the system there is all funded by Wimbledon

1366
01:13:58,227 --> 01:14:02,427
Speaker 11: and the profits, and so we've lost our best tennis

1367
01:14:02,427 --> 01:14:05,787
Speaker 11: player of this generation anyway to another country and that's

1368
01:14:05,827 --> 01:14:11,587
Speaker 11: what's happened with reber Kenna going over to two old Kazakhstan.

1369
01:14:11,747 --> 01:14:13,987
Speaker 11: I gave up on her in that third set, Piney,

1370
01:14:14,067 --> 01:14:14,547
Speaker 11: what about you?

1371
01:14:14,827 --> 01:14:16,227
Speaker 10: I actually thought on it's over.

1372
01:14:16,787 --> 01:14:20,667
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did three lovedown a breakdown Sabolinka. She just

1373
01:14:20,747 --> 01:14:23,907
Speaker 3: looks so imperious, doesn't she. But I think it makes

1374
01:14:23,987 --> 01:14:27,707
Speaker 3: the victory even more impressive to bring it back. I mean,

1375
01:14:27,747 --> 01:14:29,267
Speaker 3: she she won the first hid, didn't she, And then

1376
01:14:29,547 --> 01:14:31,507
Speaker 3: it was one all and to be three love down. Yeah,

1377
01:14:32,027 --> 01:14:33,947
Speaker 3: I thought she was going to be a runner up,

1378
01:14:33,947 --> 01:14:34,867
Speaker 3: but no good on her.

1379
01:14:35,827 --> 01:14:38,147
Speaker 11: Yeah, second Grand Slam. So I've actually got a good

1380
01:14:38,227 --> 01:14:41,027
Speaker 11: rivalry there because I was worried that Saberlenka was going

1381
01:14:41,147 --> 01:14:44,787
Speaker 11: to cruise through and have her It's far too easier

1382
01:14:44,907 --> 01:14:47,747
Speaker 11: run in the women's draw because it's not the same

1383
01:14:47,827 --> 01:14:50,827
Speaker 11: as even when you know Serena was at her peak,

1384
01:14:50,907 --> 01:14:55,667
Speaker 11: she still had you know, Hennan was still there at

1385
01:14:55,707 --> 01:14:59,587
Speaker 11: the start, and so many good players. Sharapova was buzzing

1386
01:14:59,627 --> 01:15:03,707
Speaker 11: around and obviously he or his sister, So right now

1387
01:15:03,787 --> 01:15:05,067
Speaker 11: I sort of look at it and go, yeah, this

1388
01:15:05,187 --> 01:15:07,707
Speaker 11: is actually really good for the women's game. But talk

1389
01:15:07,747 --> 01:15:11,187
Speaker 11: about rivalries on the men's side, of the drawer. Two

1390
01:15:11,347 --> 01:15:15,387
Speaker 11: five setters, epic five setters in the men's semi finals,

1391
01:15:15,947 --> 01:15:18,907
Speaker 11: and now it's al Karez versus Djokovic and Pioney. I

1392
01:15:18,947 --> 01:15:19,867
Speaker 11: want to know who you're picking.

1393
01:15:20,147 --> 01:15:22,267
Speaker 3: No, I want to know who you're picking because on

1394
01:15:22,347 --> 01:15:25,387
Speaker 3: the runsheet here it says James mconey. So I feel

1395
01:15:25,427 --> 01:15:28,107
Speaker 3: like you should be the one who has to give

1396
01:15:28,227 --> 01:15:29,787
Speaker 3: us your prediction first.

1397
01:15:30,507 --> 01:15:32,627
Speaker 14: Okay, I'm going to go for al Karez.

1398
01:15:32,787 --> 01:15:33,667
Speaker 10: I'm going for the youth.

1399
01:15:35,227 --> 01:15:38,387
Speaker 11: Call me crazy, because I think Djokovic is an absolute machine.

1400
01:15:38,627 --> 01:15:39,587
Speaker 10: He is the goat.

1401
01:15:39,787 --> 01:15:43,067
Speaker 11: He's going for his eleventh Ossie Open title, which would

1402
01:15:43,107 --> 01:15:47,147
Speaker 11: equal Margaret Court, and he would surpass Margaret Court, who

1403
01:15:47,227 --> 01:15:50,627
Speaker 11: both have twenty four Grand Slam wins, and if he

1404
01:15:50,667 --> 01:15:52,747
Speaker 11: can get this done. But I must add that Margaret

1405
01:15:52,787 --> 01:15:54,507
Speaker 11: Courts era are a lot of top players that fly

1406
01:15:54,707 --> 01:15:57,547
Speaker 11: down to the Aussie Open. So I feel like Djokovic,

1407
01:15:57,587 --> 01:16:00,667
Speaker 11: what we're witnessing is something special. A thirty eight year

1408
01:16:00,667 --> 01:16:02,987
Speaker 11: old guy who's gone to do bai in the offseason

1409
01:16:03,067 --> 01:16:06,067
Speaker 11: and worked at his game just so he can compete

1410
01:16:06,347 --> 01:16:09,307
Speaker 11: and beat al Karez and Sinner. So he's coming in

1411
01:16:09,747 --> 01:16:13,467
Speaker 11: as a cyborg from the past and the future a

1412
01:16:13,547 --> 01:16:16,867
Speaker 11: combination of both. I think Djokovic knows what he has

1413
01:16:16,947 --> 01:16:21,547
Speaker 11: to do. He has to attack Alcarez's second serve in particular,

1414
01:16:21,627 --> 01:16:24,907
Speaker 11: because he's improved his first serve al Karez, and he's

1415
01:16:24,947 --> 01:16:27,427
Speaker 11: going to hit the ball deep and disrupt his rhythm.

1416
01:16:27,507 --> 01:16:30,467
Speaker 11: And I know that it's going to mean a few

1417
01:16:30,547 --> 01:16:33,027
Speaker 11: different changes of tactics for him. But because I think

1418
01:16:33,107 --> 01:16:38,227
Speaker 11: Alcarez in such physical form or peak form, that he

1419
01:16:38,307 --> 01:16:41,427
Speaker 11: can run anything down. So but I'm still giving it

1420
01:16:41,547 --> 01:16:44,747
Speaker 11: to the Spaniard. I just think that he is he's

1421
01:16:44,787 --> 01:16:45,587
Speaker 11: locked in himself.

1422
01:16:46,347 --> 01:16:48,667
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love the way that you've picked the Alkaaz

1423
01:16:48,707 --> 01:16:51,107
Speaker 3: and then gave us a ninety second dissertation on the

1424
01:16:51,187 --> 01:16:54,747
Speaker 3: strengths of novag Djokovic, and I think it goes to

1425
01:16:54,867 --> 01:16:57,307
Speaker 3: prove just I mean, it's an intriguing final, isn't it.

1426
01:16:57,467 --> 01:16:59,587
Speaker 3: I mean, two guys at the opposite ends of their careers,

1427
01:16:59,627 --> 01:17:03,147
Speaker 3: different styles, you know, I don't know. I asked diversely

1428
01:17:03,187 --> 01:17:05,467
Speaker 3: who he thought the crowd to be cheering for. If

1429
01:17:05,547 --> 01:17:07,507
Speaker 3: you were there, who who do you like better?

1430
01:17:08,947 --> 01:17:12,547
Speaker 11: I like Alcaraz better for some reason, I know. I mean, look,

1431
01:17:12,587 --> 01:17:15,267
Speaker 11: he's trying to wear the muscle shirts. Like Nadal and

1432
01:17:15,747 --> 01:17:19,667
Speaker 11: he is turning into him mini Nadal. But Djokovic I

1433
01:17:20,067 --> 01:17:21,947
Speaker 11: really enjoyed him back in the day when he used

1434
01:17:21,947 --> 01:17:23,867
Speaker 11: to do impressions of other tennis players. I mean, I

1435
01:17:23,987 --> 01:17:25,507
Speaker 11: know that he's sort of rubbed people up the wrong

1436
01:17:25,587 --> 01:17:29,587
Speaker 11: way during COVID, but hey, you know, he's one of

1437
01:17:29,827 --> 01:17:33,067
Speaker 11: the game's characters, in an absolute legend. He's got the

1438
01:17:33,147 --> 01:17:36,467
Speaker 11: amazing win rate there. He's only lost ten games in Melbourne,

1439
01:17:36,467 --> 01:17:39,067
Speaker 11: He's never lost the final. So you've probably heard that

1440
01:17:39,147 --> 01:17:42,307
Speaker 11: from Dave. But the thing is it's I think al

1441
01:17:42,347 --> 01:17:44,987
Speaker 11: Karez is just because of his youth, he might have

1442
01:17:45,027 --> 01:17:46,787
Speaker 11: recovered better. I think he had a bit more time

1443
01:17:47,307 --> 01:17:50,627
Speaker 11: after his semi final as well. So that's what I'm

1444
01:17:50,667 --> 01:17:50,947
Speaker 11: going for.

1445
01:17:51,547 --> 01:17:55,027
Speaker 3: All right, Let's got a Super Rugby preseason games, the

1446
01:17:55,107 --> 01:17:57,707
Speaker 3: season itself a couple of weeks away. Everybody's had a

1447
01:17:57,747 --> 01:18:01,667
Speaker 3: bit of a hits out Blues thirty six, Hurricanes forty four,

1448
01:18:01,947 --> 01:18:04,587
Speaker 3: the Chiefs beating the Druid, Crusader's beating the Highlanders. I

1449
01:18:04,627 --> 01:18:07,067
Speaker 3: guess coaches just want no injury, don't they. But what

1450
01:18:07,187 --> 01:18:10,107
Speaker 3: else can you take from pre season Super Rugby matches?

1451
01:18:10,707 --> 01:18:13,347
Speaker 11: Well, I can only speak about the Chiefs versus the Andrua.

1452
01:18:13,427 --> 01:18:15,387
Speaker 11: I was there at the game at Mount Monganui the

1453
01:18:15,427 --> 01:18:19,067
Speaker 11: other day. Obviously, the tragic events of the previous week,

1454
01:18:19,467 --> 01:18:23,707
Speaker 11: it really was tough for that community and for the

1455
01:18:23,787 --> 01:18:27,227
Speaker 11: Chiefs to suddenly have to sort of prepare for a game.

1456
01:18:28,147 --> 01:18:31,107
Speaker 11: And during that game it was a bit of a

1457
01:18:31,187 --> 01:18:34,667
Speaker 11: festival atmosphere for the style of rugby. But I did

1458
01:18:34,787 --> 01:18:36,667
Speaker 11: notice a couple of things. One is that Kira in

1459
01:18:36,707 --> 01:18:40,427
Speaker 11: Telmoy Filal who has come over from Iwan pacifica you know,

1460
01:18:40,547 --> 01:18:41,787
Speaker 11: the rapid winger Pinty.

1461
01:18:41,827 --> 01:18:45,027
Speaker 3: You'll be aware, well aware of them, yep, well aware

1462
01:18:45,027 --> 01:18:45,267
Speaker 3: of them.

1463
01:18:45,947 --> 01:18:48,507
Speaker 11: He wants to play fullback, so he wants to compete

1464
01:18:48,547 --> 01:18:51,387
Speaker 11: with a tenny nine knife Satuto for the number fifteen jersey.

1465
01:18:51,507 --> 01:18:54,627
Speaker 11: So watch this space because I've got a stack back

1466
01:18:54,707 --> 01:18:57,507
Speaker 11: three with Leroy Carter and the Morning Nadawa as well

1467
01:18:57,587 --> 01:18:59,867
Speaker 11: to come back into the mix there. And then in

1468
01:18:59,987 --> 01:19:03,747
Speaker 11: midfield Lalakao for Ketti. He's a guy who's played a

1469
01:19:03,747 --> 01:19:06,267
Speaker 11: bit for Bad Plenty and the Waratas and the Wallaby.

1470
01:19:06,867 --> 01:19:09,627
Speaker 11: Even though he's New Zealand born, he's really an Aussie

1471
01:19:09,987 --> 01:19:13,747
Speaker 11: who's sort of thirty one, a veteran but man, he

1472
01:19:13,827 --> 01:19:17,707
Speaker 11: looked good in midfield. So you know, don't you forget

1473
01:19:17,907 --> 01:19:20,747
Speaker 11: about me? That is all I'm saying about that guy,

1474
01:19:20,827 --> 01:19:22,707
Speaker 11: because he he looks for the goods.

1475
01:19:23,147 --> 01:19:25,787
Speaker 3: I've got the Hurricanes winning the whole thing, but I

1476
01:19:25,987 --> 01:19:29,027
Speaker 3: have for most seasons. I think I think they're looking

1477
01:19:29,067 --> 01:19:29,587
Speaker 3: all right though.

1478
01:19:30,947 --> 01:19:34,307
Speaker 11: I've got the Hurricanes winning as well, Piney, because it

1479
01:19:34,467 --> 01:19:37,427
Speaker 11: means that when you fight, if you do win, I

1480
01:19:37,627 --> 01:19:40,067
Speaker 11: steal some of the thunder from you and my good

1481
01:19:40,107 --> 01:19:42,187
Speaker 11: mate Andrew Mulligan, and I say, hey, I picked it

1482
01:19:42,507 --> 01:19:46,547
Speaker 11: you guys you know love it. Well, the chicks win,

1483
01:19:46,707 --> 01:19:48,227
Speaker 11: I'll just go well, sorry about it.

1484
01:19:48,627 --> 01:19:51,467
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're right. It's an o lose situation for you,

1485
01:19:51,627 --> 01:19:54,907
Speaker 3: unless the Crusaders would. And of course, hey the T

1486
01:19:55,027 --> 01:19:56,747
Speaker 3: twenty World Cups coming up? You did you were you

1487
01:19:56,827 --> 01:19:57,307
Speaker 3: aware of that?

1488
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Speaker 14: I am aware of it.

1489
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Speaker 11: And it is in India, I believe, and it's in

1490
01:20:02,787 --> 01:20:05,547
Speaker 11: so New Zealand's had the perfect preparation playing India in

1491
01:20:05,707 --> 01:20:08,787
Speaker 11: India of course, losing for one. But did you see

1492
01:20:08,827 --> 01:20:11,587
Speaker 11: the match overnight, pony? Did you see what Finellen did?

1493
01:20:11,787 --> 01:20:15,427
Speaker 3: Come on eighteen about thirty balls. He's just in in

1494
01:20:15,547 --> 01:20:17,587
Speaker 3: this rich vein of form, isn't he Finellen?

1495
01:20:18,267 --> 01:20:21,347
Speaker 11: Yeah, And that is how to play T twenty. It's

1496
01:20:22,987 --> 01:20:25,307
Speaker 11: six sixers and four fours, so that's sixty eight of

1497
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Speaker 11: the eighty runs and boundaries, and that's another good way

1498
01:20:29,267 --> 01:20:30,787
Speaker 11: to play in the heat of India as well.

1499
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Speaker 10: I think it's not run so.

1500
01:20:32,787 --> 01:20:38,907
Speaker 11: Much exactly right, Yeah, for the boundary Mark Richardson.

1501
01:20:38,947 --> 01:20:39,947
Speaker 3: No, absolutely not.

1502
01:20:40,187 --> 01:20:40,227
Speaker 24: No.

1503
01:20:40,467 --> 01:20:42,587
Speaker 3: I don't think he'll be running too many quick singles.

1504
01:20:42,627 --> 01:20:44,707
Speaker 3: Just stand and deliver. And we're about a week away

1505
01:20:44,707 --> 01:20:47,187
Speaker 3: from the Winter Olympics. I'm excited about this, Opon. We

1506
01:20:47,227 --> 01:20:48,147
Speaker 3: could win a few medals.

1507
01:20:48,747 --> 01:20:48,947
Speaker 25: Yes.

1508
01:20:49,027 --> 01:20:52,667
Speaker 11: The Winter Olympics opening ceremony on February seven our time.

1509
01:20:53,187 --> 01:20:55,467
Speaker 11: It's on Sky and Sky open all the action. It's

1510
01:20:55,467 --> 01:20:57,827
Speaker 11: going to be pretty exciting. I don't know if the

1511
01:20:57,907 --> 01:21:01,347
Speaker 11: topless Tonguen will be there for the opening ceremony all

1512
01:21:01,467 --> 01:21:04,867
Speaker 11: oiled up, but Mariah Carey will be probably not topless,

1513
01:21:05,507 --> 01:21:09,147
Speaker 11: and she's singing at the ceremony. And then for us,

1514
01:21:09,427 --> 01:21:11,987
Speaker 11: we've got well, we all got to look out for

1515
01:21:12,307 --> 01:21:15,027
Speaker 11: Zoey Sadowski Senate. She is the best in her field,

1516
01:21:15,427 --> 01:21:17,307
Speaker 11: definitely in the slopestyle, should be in the big air

1517
01:21:17,347 --> 01:21:20,787
Speaker 11: as well. Litterley Melville Ives who won the half pipe

1518
01:21:20,827 --> 01:21:24,227
Speaker 11: golden last year's free ski half Pipe World Champs, our

1519
01:21:24,267 --> 01:21:27,507
Speaker 11: World Cup at the age of eighteen. And Alice Robinson,

1520
01:21:27,587 --> 01:21:29,907
Speaker 11: of course at the giant slalom, who won a World

1521
01:21:29,907 --> 01:21:32,587
Speaker 11: Cup two months ago. And you can also look out

1522
01:21:32,587 --> 01:21:35,867
Speaker 11: for Campbell right, a Kiwi competing for the USA and

1523
01:21:35,947 --> 01:21:39,467
Speaker 11: the Biathlon that's the skiing shooting event. And even the

1524
01:21:39,507 --> 01:21:43,187
Speaker 11: Americans are calling him fun loving kiwi Campbell right and stuff.

1525
01:21:43,307 --> 01:21:45,827
Speaker 11: I was looking at the Rocky Mountain, the Outlook newspaper.

1526
01:21:46,187 --> 01:21:48,387
Speaker 11: This is the research I do for you, pony, and

1527
01:21:49,227 --> 01:21:52,507
Speaker 11: so they're pretty much calling him a kiwi. But he's

1528
01:21:52,507 --> 01:21:56,107
Speaker 11: an American now. But all I'll say is Zoe Sadowski

1529
01:21:56,147 --> 01:21:58,587
Speaker 11: senate at five foot five, same height as Lydia Co.

1530
01:21:59,147 --> 01:22:01,227
Speaker 11: Even if you've got a kid who thinks they're too

1531
01:22:01,267 --> 01:22:04,747
Speaker 11: short to be a champion, No, our greatest athletes are

1532
01:22:04,827 --> 01:22:06,347
Speaker 11: five ft five, Pony.

1533
01:22:06,467 --> 01:22:09,507
Speaker 3: They are, indeed, they are indeed great to Jed as always, mate,

1534
01:22:09,747 --> 01:22:11,987
Speaker 3: James mccarni, part of our Sundays six and a half

1535
01:22:12,067 --> 01:22:14,867
Speaker 3: to two coming up three to two after two will

1536
01:22:15,187 --> 01:22:18,787
Speaker 3: wrap these Super Smash finals, the Wellington Blaze and the

1537
01:22:18,867 --> 01:22:22,587
Speaker 3: Northern Brave, the women's and men's champions respectively, their respective

1538
01:22:22,667 --> 01:22:25,707
Speaker 3: captains Jess Kerr and Robbie O'Donnell. After two.

1539
01:22:27,347 --> 01:22:30,147
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

1540
01:22:30,627 --> 01:22:33,947
Speaker 1: and after fields. It's all on Wi Keen Sport with

1541
01:22:34,187 --> 01:22:38,907
Speaker 1: Jason Taine on your home of sport US talk.

1542
01:22:40,227 --> 01:22:42,467
Speaker 3: Hi there, seven past two. This is weekend Sport. I'm

1543
01:22:42,507 --> 01:22:44,827
Speaker 3: Jason Fine with Andy McDonald running the color. We're hit

1544
01:22:44,867 --> 01:22:48,507
Speaker 3: till three, Tim Beverage. After that, visit the old February

1545
01:22:48,587 --> 01:22:50,787
Speaker 3: coming up, which we're in two now, February the first

1546
01:22:51,067 --> 01:22:53,427
Speaker 3: we can stop saying Happy New Year. Now, I'm sure

1547
01:22:53,467 --> 01:22:56,667
Speaker 3: people will still do it, but in a couple of

1548
01:22:56,747 --> 01:23:00,987
Speaker 3: weekends time sal gp Auckland can't wait for that. We'll

1549
01:23:01,027 --> 01:23:05,907
Speaker 3: be broadcasting live from our purpose built studio overlooking the

1550
01:23:06,027 --> 01:23:09,747
Speaker 3: harbor where these boats are gonna fly around the course.

1551
01:23:09,947 --> 01:23:11,707
Speaker 3: Good news during the week that it looks as though

1552
01:23:12,347 --> 01:23:14,827
Speaker 3: the Black Foils will be there. Of course, they had

1553
01:23:14,907 --> 01:23:17,867
Speaker 3: major damage to their boat in the season opening regatta

1554
01:23:18,507 --> 01:23:22,547
Speaker 3: in Perth, but by the sounds of it, they're very

1555
01:23:22,587 --> 01:23:24,547
Speaker 3: confident they'll be on the start line in Auckland. So

1556
01:23:24,627 --> 01:23:26,627
Speaker 3: that's a couple of weekends away. Look forward to bringing

1557
01:23:26,667 --> 01:23:31,827
Speaker 3: you the show from sal GP Auckland weekend of February

1558
01:23:31,867 --> 01:23:35,907
Speaker 3: fourteen and fifteen. That same weekend at Royal Wellington Golf Club,

1559
01:23:36,867 --> 01:23:42,387
Speaker 3: it's the Women's Amateur Asia Pacific Championship. It's a terrific

1560
01:23:42,467 --> 01:23:46,107
Speaker 3: event with the carrot for the winner of entry into

1561
01:23:46,227 --> 01:23:49,307
Speaker 3: three of the five women's majors. There are nine keywameters

1562
01:23:49,587 --> 01:23:52,827
Speaker 3: in the field. Caitlin Maurice is one of them. She'll

1563
01:23:53,107 --> 01:23:55,707
Speaker 3: chat to us this hour. We'll also hear from both

1564
01:23:56,187 --> 01:24:01,947
Speaker 3: Super Smash winning captains Jess Blaze Jess Blaze, Jess Curve

1565
01:24:01,987 --> 01:24:04,187
Speaker 3: from the Blaze maybe we should call her Jess Blaze

1566
01:24:04,467 --> 01:24:09,467
Speaker 3: Jess Curve from the Wellington Blaze and Robbie Brave Robbie

1567
01:24:09,467 --> 01:24:13,227
Speaker 3: O'Donnell from the Northern Brave, both skippers standing by the

1568
01:24:13,307 --> 01:24:15,507
Speaker 3: chat to us. We'll also tell you a bit more

1569
01:24:15,547 --> 01:24:16,627
Speaker 3: about high Rocks.

1570
01:24:17,987 --> 01:24:18,347
Speaker 8: This is.

1571
01:24:20,827 --> 01:24:22,707
Speaker 3: A sort of a phenomenon, really, I think you can

1572
01:24:22,787 --> 01:24:26,707
Speaker 3: call it a phenomenon. It's a it's an endurance race

1573
01:24:26,987 --> 01:24:32,947
Speaker 3: basically the sport of fitness racing, mixing endurance and strength.

1574
01:24:33,307 --> 01:24:35,547
Speaker 3: It's come to Auckland over the last few days eleven

1575
01:24:35,707 --> 01:24:41,387
Speaker 3: thousand participants going to chat to High Rocks Ambassador A

1576
01:24:41,547 --> 01:24:46,787
Speaker 3: bas Nazari. So that's all to come. Oh, eight hundred

1577
01:24:46,787 --> 01:24:49,587
Speaker 3: and eighty, ten to eighty for your phone calls, nine

1578
01:24:49,947 --> 01:24:53,867
Speaker 3: nine two for your text messages. And just before we

1579
01:24:54,027 --> 01:24:56,827
Speaker 3: get to our next feature, it's great to have the

1580
01:24:56,907 --> 01:24:59,827
Speaker 3: first entry in February of text messages sent to us

1581
01:25:00,587 --> 01:25:05,427
Speaker 3: not meant for us. Text through here. Let's go across

1582
01:25:05,587 --> 01:25:08,307
Speaker 3: that new bridge and walk down the path towards Belmont

1583
01:25:09,747 --> 01:25:12,547
Speaker 3: and you're reasonably sure that's not meant for us unless

1584
01:25:12,827 --> 01:25:14,747
Speaker 3: you're scheduled to walk with one of our listeners. And

1585
01:25:15,027 --> 01:25:17,907
Speaker 3: sounds like a lovely afternoon pinet it it does. I

1586
01:25:17,987 --> 01:25:20,467
Speaker 3: wonder if they'll be allowed on the bridge, unlike those suits.

1587
01:25:20,827 --> 01:25:25,427
Speaker 3: I'm intrigued to this new bridge towards in Belmont. Fantastic.

1588
01:25:25,547 --> 01:25:27,707
Speaker 3: I'm I'm going to google that for us. One of

1589
01:25:27,747 --> 01:25:31,547
Speaker 3: our favorite features texts sent to us not meant for us.

1590
01:25:32,587 --> 01:25:34,467
Speaker 3: Hopefully there'll be many more to come across the year

1591
01:25:34,547 --> 01:25:36,667
Speaker 3: ten past two, as we always do. Another of our

1592
01:25:36,707 --> 01:25:39,067
Speaker 3: favorite features is when we catch you up on the

1593
01:25:39,107 --> 01:25:41,307
Speaker 3: stuff that you may well not have caught up on.

1594
01:25:41,947 --> 01:25:43,307
Speaker 3: Some of the stuff you may have missed over the

1595
01:25:43,387 --> 01:25:47,027
Speaker 3: last little while in case you missed it, Starting with

1596
01:25:47,107 --> 01:25:50,707
Speaker 3: Cricket India topping off their five match T twenty series

1597
01:25:50,747 --> 01:25:53,667
Speaker 3: against the black Caps with a fourth win, posting a

1598
01:25:53,907 --> 01:25:58,067
Speaker 3: mammoth score of two hundred and seventy one off the

1599
01:25:58,107 --> 01:26:03,307
Speaker 3: back of a century from Ishan. Kishan goes again ant

1600
01:26:03,307 --> 01:26:03,507
Speaker 3: of it.

1601
01:26:05,307 --> 01:26:11,667
Speaker 26: Promission kish this maiden T twenty hundred comes an international

1602
01:26:11,787 --> 01:26:15,387
Speaker 26: cricket and that has been superb. He's been great through

1603
01:26:15,467 --> 01:26:22,227
Speaker 26: the series, but m tonight he has been simply special and.

1604
01:26:22,267 --> 01:26:24,427
Speaker 3: The black Apps couldn't get there, falling short by forty

1605
01:26:24,467 --> 01:26:26,547
Speaker 3: six runs. It was good to see Finelle and though

1606
01:26:26,627 --> 01:26:31,267
Speaker 3: smash eighty of thirty odd deliveries, plenty of football to

1607
01:26:31,307 --> 01:26:34,747
Speaker 3: get across. Alarm bells ringing ever so slightly at Auckland

1608
01:26:34,867 --> 01:26:37,267
Speaker 3: FC is once again they blew an early lead.

1609
01:26:37,667 --> 01:26:40,547
Speaker 27: Last minute of the ninety square off from Kolakowski.

1610
01:26:40,827 --> 01:26:57,027
Speaker 19: Kishasty kisasti he has goot the shin two separation for

1611
01:26:57,147 --> 01:27:00,627
Speaker 19: the name come f twenty two.

1612
01:27:01,187 --> 01:27:03,987
Speaker 3: Yeah, Perth Croy winning at two to one, leaving Auckland

1613
01:27:04,107 --> 01:27:06,587
Speaker 3: FC third on the A League Lanner level on points

1614
01:27:06,627 --> 01:27:10,547
Speaker 3: worth sickond place Sydney FC, who they host next Saturday.

1615
01:27:10,627 --> 01:27:13,787
Speaker 3: To the Premier League. A big come from behind went

1616
01:27:13,827 --> 01:27:18,227
Speaker 3: for Chelsea. Nice movement by and by Jacques padrou.

1617
01:27:20,027 --> 01:27:21,467
Speaker 19: So, right sands of Fernanda.

1618
01:27:22,187 --> 01:27:27,347
Speaker 26: Chelsea four made just all probably will win in three

1619
01:27:27,427 --> 01:27:34,627
Speaker 26: years after he signs the Chelsea Football Club. Enzo Fernandez

1620
01:27:36,387 --> 01:27:39,067
Speaker 26: not for the first time in those three years. Here's

1621
01:27:39,147 --> 01:27:40,187
Speaker 26: the man of the moment.

1622
01:27:40,787 --> 01:27:44,027
Speaker 3: Down two nil, early three second half goals giving them

1623
01:27:44,027 --> 01:27:46,747
Speaker 3: a three to two win out a West Ham Arsenal monster.

1624
01:27:46,947 --> 01:27:50,267
Speaker 3: Leeds United means argents for an Arsenal forfeit, manages to.

1625
01:27:50,267 --> 01:27:54,267
Speaker 27: Find some room and find and finishes well. Gabriel Jesus,

1626
01:27:55,147 --> 01:28:00,307
Speaker 27: that is a delightful goal that Arsenal are cruising here?

1627
01:28:01,707 --> 01:28:06,067
Speaker 27: Why have they answered some questions here this afternoon Leeds

1628
01:28:06,147 --> 01:28:06,787
Speaker 27: and now.

1629
01:28:07,267 --> 01:28:09,987
Speaker 3: Arsenal four and they stay on top of the Premier League.

1630
01:28:10,067 --> 01:28:12,747
Speaker 3: Lander and a four to one win from Liverpool over

1631
01:28:12,907 --> 01:28:17,347
Speaker 3: Newcastle capped by a very special moment from Ibrahima Kanat

1632
01:28:18,147 --> 01:28:21,587
Speaker 3: scoring just days after the death of his father on.

1633
01:28:21,867 --> 01:28:31,387
Speaker 18: Balls Karata, it's the call he to serves tonight. Ibrahima

1634
01:28:31,507 --> 01:28:36,107
Speaker 18: Karat Sky is only the second Premier League call of

1635
01:28:36,307 --> 01:28:37,267
Speaker 18: his career.

1636
01:28:38,947 --> 01:28:40,987
Speaker 6: And in the circumstances in the.

1637
01:28:42,587 --> 01:28:44,067
Speaker 26: Last week ten days.

1638
01:28:43,827 --> 01:28:44,387
Speaker 9: That he's had.

1639
01:28:44,467 --> 01:28:49,907
Speaker 26: This will be an emotional moment for Ibrahima Karate even

1640
01:28:49,947 --> 01:28:52,147
Speaker 26: Alison to join in the celebrations.

1641
01:28:53,227 --> 01:28:55,147
Speaker 18: They all know what this means.

1642
01:28:56,787 --> 01:28:59,027
Speaker 6: When it's down to the line. You make a call

1643
01:28:59,227 --> 01:29:02,467
Speaker 6: on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with

1644
01:29:02,667 --> 01:29:04,147
Speaker 6: Jason Hine, News Talk.

1645
01:29:04,067 --> 01:29:07,627
Speaker 3: ZIMV coming up fourteen pass two. We have our winners

1646
01:29:07,907 --> 01:29:12,867
Speaker 3: in domestic Crickets Super Smash competition after yesterday's finals at

1647
01:29:12,947 --> 01:29:17,267
Speaker 3: Hagley Oval in Christchurch. The Wellington Blaze have completed a

1648
01:29:17,427 --> 01:29:22,187
Speaker 3: three peet in the women's T twenty competition in dramatic fashion.

1649
01:29:23,827 --> 01:29:24,547
Speaker 6: Well that'll do it.

1650
01:29:24,787 --> 01:29:26,027
Speaker 19: She has got all of that.

1651
01:29:26,307 --> 01:29:28,987
Speaker 6: Jest cur put that over the rope.

1652
01:29:30,427 --> 01:29:32,107
Speaker 3: Here we go, Here we go.

1653
01:29:32,307 --> 01:29:34,347
Speaker 9: What's the answer from the hearts?

1654
01:29:34,387 --> 01:29:38,267
Speaker 24: Here tries to go again as she got all of it?

1655
01:29:38,467 --> 01:29:42,147
Speaker 19: Yes, she has, Jessica second six in the over.

1656
01:29:43,147 --> 01:29:44,747
Speaker 3: Becky Burns is enjoying it.

1657
01:29:45,147 --> 01:29:46,027
Speaker 23: Wellington side.

1658
01:29:46,067 --> 01:29:47,467
Speaker 6: They are all up and about.

1659
01:29:47,267 --> 01:29:49,867
Speaker 3: Now go there offside? Has she got that one through?

1660
01:29:49,987 --> 01:29:50,107
Speaker 27: Yees?

1661
01:29:50,187 --> 01:29:50,507
Speaker 5: She has?

1662
01:29:50,627 --> 01:29:55,587
Speaker 24: Jesker what the last over from the Wellington Blazed skipper

1663
01:29:56,267 --> 01:29:57,907
Speaker 24: see how much it means to them?

1664
01:29:58,627 --> 01:30:02,907
Speaker 3: Incredible stuff, netting sixteen off the last over, Blaze captain

1665
01:30:03,107 --> 01:30:06,867
Speaker 3: Jess Kerr hit two six's and then a winning boundary

1666
01:30:06,987 --> 01:30:10,387
Speaker 3: to see her side home by five wickets against Auckland.

1667
01:30:10,467 --> 01:30:14,347
Speaker 3: Jessica is with us. Jess, congratulations on a terrific performance

1668
01:30:14,427 --> 01:30:18,307
Speaker 3: individually and leading this team to another championship. Can we

1669
01:30:18,387 --> 01:30:21,667
Speaker 3: go to the last over sixteen k needed off six balls?

1670
01:30:22,067 --> 01:30:25,307
Speaker 3: You're out there with another experienced player in Jess mcfag

1671
01:30:25,387 --> 01:30:28,147
Speaker 3: and what sort of conversations are you having at that time?

1672
01:30:28,867 --> 01:30:31,227
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the first thing was believing you can

1673
01:30:31,307 --> 01:30:31,507
Speaker 5: do it.

1674
01:30:33,987 --> 01:30:37,147
Speaker 28: At that point, it's sort of like it's almost given

1675
01:30:37,347 --> 01:30:39,307
Speaker 28: because there's so many runs you just have to go

1676
01:30:39,587 --> 01:30:43,387
Speaker 28: and funny things can happen. And yeah, slightly shorter boundaries,

1677
01:30:43,467 --> 01:30:46,027
Speaker 28: but yeah, I think the leaf was the big one.

1678
01:30:46,147 --> 01:30:48,347
Speaker 5: And also just we have to run hard as well.

1679
01:30:48,467 --> 01:30:51,067
Speaker 28: And yeah, Jess gave up her wicket there to get

1680
01:30:51,107 --> 01:30:53,107
Speaker 28: me back on strike and I think Jess Simmons was

1681
01:30:53,147 --> 01:30:56,067
Speaker 28: willing to do the same too. But yeah, huge belief

1682
01:30:56,267 --> 01:30:57,947
Speaker 28: in the team throughout the whole game, not just that

1683
01:30:58,147 --> 01:30:58,747
Speaker 28: last over.

1684
01:30:59,027 --> 01:31:03,227
Speaker 3: And two big sixers down the ground that basically won

1685
01:31:03,307 --> 01:31:05,587
Speaker 3: the game for your team. Jess, was that an area

1686
01:31:05,667 --> 01:31:08,387
Speaker 3: that you were target hitting ahead of the over, and

1687
01:31:08,467 --> 01:31:09,907
Speaker 3: I know you've got to get the right delivery, but

1688
01:31:10,067 --> 01:31:12,147
Speaker 3: was that an area that you felt the most comfortable

1689
01:31:12,227 --> 01:31:12,707
Speaker 3: hitting too.

1690
01:31:14,267 --> 01:31:14,427
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1691
01:31:14,467 --> 01:31:16,547
Speaker 28: It's funny because throughout the season I've been caught on

1692
01:31:16,627 --> 01:31:18,627
Speaker 28: the boundary a bit and getting told off from my

1693
01:31:18,747 --> 01:31:21,067
Speaker 28: dad and people that you can't just give your wicket

1694
01:31:21,107 --> 01:31:23,427
Speaker 28: away hitting to hitting to the boundary trying to hit

1695
01:31:23,467 --> 01:31:26,427
Speaker 28: a six. But again that situation, you probably did need

1696
01:31:26,467 --> 01:31:29,347
Speaker 28: a six or a number of fours, so when it

1697
01:31:29,387 --> 01:31:31,347
Speaker 28: comes to the last over, you'd sort of have the

1698
01:31:31,467 --> 01:31:34,867
Speaker 28: license to do that. But yeah, it was again not overhitting,

1699
01:31:34,947 --> 01:31:37,907
Speaker 28: watching the ball and reacting still too.

1700
01:31:38,067 --> 01:31:40,467
Speaker 5: But if it's there, then you have free those levers,

1701
01:31:40,507 --> 01:31:40,827
Speaker 5: I guess.

1702
01:31:41,107 --> 01:31:44,747
Speaker 3: And then absolutely and then the final, the final runs

1703
01:31:45,147 --> 01:31:48,347
Speaker 3: four through cover. How are the emotions when that ball

1704
01:31:48,427 --> 01:31:50,147
Speaker 3: hits the rope and you've won the game?

1705
01:31:50,987 --> 01:31:51,147
Speaker 29: Oh?

1706
01:31:51,187 --> 01:31:54,187
Speaker 28: I think I was slutted with all sorts of emotions.

1707
01:31:54,267 --> 01:31:57,027
Speaker 28: And I think that's the beautiful thing about sports as well.

1708
01:31:57,187 --> 01:31:59,947
Speaker 28: And in those moments, there's such highs and such lows,

1709
01:32:00,027 --> 01:32:02,987
Speaker 28: And while I don't want to ride the highs and

1710
01:32:03,027 --> 01:32:05,227
Speaker 28: lows too much, that was a moment that that did

1711
01:32:05,667 --> 01:32:08,347
Speaker 28: feel really sure, And I think I'll remember for the

1712
01:32:08,427 --> 01:32:11,907
Speaker 28: rest of my life. Yeah, it's been a tricky season

1713
01:32:11,987 --> 01:32:14,507
Speaker 28: this year, you know, losing nearly with the WPR and

1714
01:32:14,587 --> 01:32:18,067
Speaker 28: not having internationals for the finals, but the domestic girls

1715
01:32:18,107 --> 01:32:21,107
Speaker 28: have really stood up and to do it, do a

1716
01:32:21,187 --> 01:32:24,387
Speaker 28: win like that with with all Wellington local players is

1717
01:32:24,507 --> 01:32:25,227
Speaker 28: just so special.

1718
01:32:25,827 --> 01:32:29,147
Speaker 3: And what is it about the Blaze and tight finals

1719
01:32:29,347 --> 01:32:32,067
Speaker 3: in this competition? You won it by eight runs last year,

1720
01:32:32,187 --> 01:32:36,027
Speaker 3: by one run the previous summer. Last night victory off

1721
01:32:36,067 --> 01:32:38,307
Speaker 3: the second to last delivery. Do it just like keeping

1722
01:32:38,347 --> 01:32:40,307
Speaker 3: your fans on the edge of the seats?

1723
01:32:41,667 --> 01:32:44,667
Speaker 28: Yeah, I think finals cricket does funny things, especially in

1724
01:32:44,707 --> 01:32:45,427
Speaker 28: the Super Smash.

1725
01:32:45,507 --> 01:32:48,267
Speaker 5: It's been quite the trend of for a number of years.

1726
01:32:48,427 --> 01:32:51,307
Speaker 28: But yeah, I guess the Blaze have just found a

1727
01:32:51,387 --> 01:32:54,587
Speaker 28: method to win from any situation. And like I touched on,

1728
01:32:54,707 --> 01:32:57,707
Speaker 28: belief such a big word we use in our environment.

1729
01:32:57,867 --> 01:33:00,747
Speaker 28: And also what I said to the group after the

1730
01:33:00,867 --> 01:33:03,467
Speaker 28: game tour is we're really proud of each other's successes.

1731
01:33:03,587 --> 01:33:06,267
Speaker 28: It doesn't it might not be you every single game,

1732
01:33:06,427 --> 01:33:08,827
Speaker 28: but as long as we're getting over the line, everyone's

1733
01:33:08,867 --> 01:33:11,467
Speaker 28: really happy for each other and just great humans, so that.

1734
01:33:11,587 --> 01:33:13,427
Speaker 5: The culture is a really great one to be around

1735
01:33:13,467 --> 01:33:13,947
Speaker 5: at the moment.

1736
01:33:14,267 --> 01:33:16,667
Speaker 3: Very cool at the change of aninggested one hundred and

1737
01:33:16,747 --> 01:33:20,267
Speaker 3: forty seven. Feel chasable for the Blaze on that wicket.

1738
01:33:20,827 --> 01:33:21,507
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely.

1739
01:33:21,587 --> 01:33:24,187
Speaker 28: I guess finals cricket does that probably adds to the

1740
01:33:24,267 --> 01:33:26,587
Speaker 28: total a bit. But having bowled on that first, I

1741
01:33:26,667 --> 01:33:28,947
Speaker 28: thought it was a really nice, nice wicket. If you

1742
01:33:29,027 --> 01:33:32,027
Speaker 28: missed wide or too full, you just you could just

1743
01:33:32,067 --> 01:33:35,547
Speaker 28: free the levers and the outfield of Heckley Oval is

1744
01:33:35,627 --> 01:33:39,587
Speaker 28: just divine really to the ball races away. So yeah,

1745
01:33:39,787 --> 01:33:42,587
Speaker 28: I was confident. I thought we did very well to

1746
01:33:42,907 --> 01:33:45,027
Speaker 28: bring it back to that total. They probably could have

1747
01:33:45,067 --> 01:33:48,107
Speaker 28: scored a bit more with having a couple of in

1748
01:33:48,267 --> 01:33:52,227
Speaker 28: batters close to the ends. So yeah, again belief. You

1749
01:33:52,387 --> 01:33:54,507
Speaker 28: just got to believe no matter what score they got,

1750
01:33:54,907 --> 01:33:56,307
Speaker 28: that we can chase it.

1751
01:33:56,627 --> 01:33:58,627
Speaker 3: And there's a couple applies in the team with you

1752
01:33:58,707 --> 01:34:01,787
Speaker 3: who have been part of, you know, this long period

1753
01:34:01,867 --> 01:34:05,627
Speaker 3: of success. I think that was Rebecca Burns' eighth T

1754
01:34:05,827 --> 01:34:08,707
Speaker 3: twenty tchampionship with the Blaze. Seven for you, I think

1755
01:34:08,787 --> 01:34:12,387
Speaker 3: seven for Jess mcfadgin as well is number seven though

1756
01:34:12,627 --> 01:34:13,747
Speaker 3: just as special.

1757
01:34:15,067 --> 01:34:17,747
Speaker 28: Yeah, I think everyone is special, but this one certainly

1758
01:34:18,147 --> 01:34:20,787
Speaker 28: hits home a bit more, I think. Yeah, I guess

1759
01:34:20,827 --> 01:34:23,307
Speaker 28: the opportunity to lead this side with merely going and

1760
01:34:23,427 --> 01:34:26,027
Speaker 28: the like I touched on the without the likes of

1761
01:34:26,707 --> 01:34:29,387
Speaker 28: you know, white ferns depth that we've had in the past.

1762
01:34:29,907 --> 01:34:32,147
Speaker 28: Usually we have five or six white fans in our team,

1763
01:34:32,227 --> 01:34:35,547
Speaker 28: and last year we had internationals during the final two.

1764
01:34:35,667 --> 01:34:39,107
Speaker 28: So to do this with a very young, sort of

1765
01:34:39,227 --> 01:34:44,107
Speaker 28: inexperienced side, and also to captain it and challenge myself

1766
01:34:44,187 --> 01:34:47,507
Speaker 28: to it, this one's felt a little closer to home.

1767
01:34:47,547 --> 01:34:49,867
Speaker 3: I guess, how did you find the experience and the

1768
01:34:49,987 --> 01:34:51,467
Speaker 3: challenge of captaining the side?

1769
01:34:52,107 --> 01:34:53,907
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was making a joke. I was a bit

1770
01:34:53,947 --> 01:34:54,867
Speaker 5: of bad luck. Initially.

1771
01:34:54,907 --> 01:34:57,827
Speaker 28: I kept losing tosses and I think my first two

1772
01:34:57,947 --> 01:35:00,147
Speaker 28: games i'd lost on the trot, so I was I

1773
01:35:00,227 --> 01:35:02,187
Speaker 28: was getting a little bit concerned at some point.

1774
01:35:02,347 --> 01:35:04,947
Speaker 5: But yeah, I guess just the more the more you

1775
01:35:05,067 --> 01:35:06,147
Speaker 5: do it, the more you grow.

1776
01:35:06,107 --> 01:35:06,947
Speaker 12: And and learn.

1777
01:35:07,027 --> 01:35:09,987
Speaker 28: And I've had some great mentors around me with you

1778
01:35:10,267 --> 01:35:12,987
Speaker 28: Johnny Georgia Plummer has been a great help, and also

1779
01:35:13,107 --> 01:35:15,267
Speaker 28: the team as well, just how they've got.

1780
01:35:15,187 --> 01:35:18,747
Speaker 5: Behind sort of you know, running around and hustling in the.

1781
01:35:18,787 --> 01:35:21,547
Speaker 28: Field, and the energy they show and my Dad's been

1782
01:35:21,587 --> 01:35:24,747
Speaker 28: such an incredible influence as well with helping me. So

1783
01:35:24,907 --> 01:35:26,587
Speaker 28: it's been a great learning and I think it will

1784
01:35:26,667 --> 01:35:30,147
Speaker 28: certainly help my cricket moving forward to even if I'm

1785
01:35:30,187 --> 01:35:33,387
Speaker 28: not keptaining, just thinking a bit deeper about the game.

1786
01:35:34,067 --> 01:35:37,027
Speaker 3: And you can enjoy this obviously, and then the domestic

1787
01:35:37,067 --> 01:35:41,107
Speaker 3: summer continues, but the international summer is also on the horizon.

1788
01:35:41,387 --> 01:35:43,867
Speaker 3: Zimbabwe and South Africa both here for ten twenties and

1789
01:35:43,907 --> 01:35:46,427
Speaker 3: ODI it's a tour of England in June, a World

1790
01:35:46,467 --> 01:35:49,027
Speaker 3: Cup to look forward to. How much are you looking

1791
01:35:49,067 --> 01:35:51,587
Speaker 3: forward to getting back in the white ferns environment and

1792
01:35:51,667 --> 01:35:52,907
Speaker 3: representing New Zealand again.

1793
01:35:53,987 --> 01:35:56,667
Speaker 28: Yeah, I'm so proud to be a Wellingtonian and I'm

1794
01:35:56,667 --> 01:35:58,747
Speaker 28: also very very proud to be a New Zealander, so

1795
01:35:59,187 --> 01:36:02,027
Speaker 28: wearing both of those shirts means so much to me.

1796
01:36:02,227 --> 01:36:05,987
Speaker 28: And yeah, hopefully having the opportunity to represent New Zealand

1797
01:36:06,027 --> 01:36:09,267
Speaker 28: at home and then at another World Cup would be

1798
01:36:09,387 --> 01:36:12,307
Speaker 28: very special if I'm given the opportunity.

1799
01:36:11,907 --> 01:36:13,747
Speaker 3: All right, well, looking forward to seeing how that goes

1800
01:36:13,787 --> 01:36:17,027
Speaker 3: in the meantime. Jess, congratulations for your role in this

1801
01:36:17,347 --> 01:36:19,467
Speaker 3: win in the final, and to the Blaze as well

1802
01:36:19,547 --> 01:36:21,987
Speaker 3: for going going three in a row in the T

1803
01:36:22,147 --> 01:36:24,587
Speaker 3: twenty Super Smash and joy it and thanks so much

1804
01:36:24,627 --> 01:36:25,027
Speaker 3: for chatting.

1805
01:36:25,267 --> 01:36:26,667
Speaker 5: Thanks Jason, appreciate it now.

1806
01:36:26,587 --> 01:36:27,787
Speaker 3: I appreciate you joining us.

1807
01:36:27,867 --> 01:36:28,027
Speaker 11: Jess.

1808
01:36:28,067 --> 01:36:31,027
Speaker 3: Thanks indeed, Jess Kerr there captain of the Wellington Blaze.

1809
01:36:31,067 --> 01:36:34,267
Speaker 3: So they've won three in a row in the men's competition.

1810
01:36:34,467 --> 01:36:38,747
Speaker 3: The Northern Brave are the men's Super Smash T twenty champions.

1811
01:36:40,507 --> 01:36:44,947
Speaker 24: Scoop set away, we'll race away and we'll run away

1812
01:36:44,987 --> 01:36:50,307
Speaker 24: for four. That is job done for the Northern Bravest.

1813
01:36:50,587 --> 01:36:56,267
Speaker 24: Run there's the first times and it's a job well

1814
01:36:56,347 --> 01:36:57,507
Speaker 24: done to the Northern side.

1815
01:36:57,627 --> 01:37:00,147
Speaker 3: Indeed it was. They've beaten Canterbury by five wickets in

1816
01:37:00,187 --> 01:37:02,267
Speaker 3: the final, chasing down the target of one hundred and

1817
01:37:02,347 --> 01:37:05,627
Speaker 3: seventy two with over two overs to spare. Brave captain

1818
01:37:05,707 --> 01:37:09,987
Speaker 3: Robbie was with us. Congrats Robbie, a really comprehensive one.

1819
01:37:10,147 --> 01:37:10,307
Speaker 13: Really.

1820
01:37:10,347 --> 01:37:14,827
Speaker 25: How were the celebrations, Yeah, look, oh, just wonderful end

1821
01:37:14,867 --> 01:37:18,147
Speaker 25: to a great campaign for the boys. So celebrations We

1822
01:37:18,227 --> 01:37:22,227
Speaker 25: definitely had a couple quote ones in the sheds. But yeah,

1823
01:37:22,307 --> 01:37:25,307
Speaker 25: look the boys as have earned won the right in

1824
01:37:25,387 --> 01:37:27,787
Speaker 25: the spot in the final, but two to put out

1825
01:37:27,827 --> 01:37:30,987
Speaker 25: a clinical performance like that. Yeah, just let their head

1826
01:37:31,027 --> 01:37:33,427
Speaker 25: down a little bit and sort of reflect nicely on

1827
01:37:34,307 --> 01:37:36,467
Speaker 25: the things we've done well and some of the key

1828
01:37:36,547 --> 01:37:37,827
Speaker 25: performances we had this year.

1829
01:37:38,147 --> 01:37:41,707
Speaker 3: Yeah, rightly so, because it was an excellent campaign, well

1830
01:37:41,747 --> 01:37:42,907
Speaker 3: though I do want to talk about the start of

1831
01:37:42,947 --> 01:37:45,067
Speaker 3: it in a moment, but an excellent campaign to finish top,

1832
01:37:45,467 --> 01:37:47,867
Speaker 3: and then I need to finish the job as TOP qualifies.

1833
01:37:47,907 --> 01:37:50,507
Speaker 3: That must I guess make things doubly satisfying that you

1834
01:37:50,627 --> 01:37:54,627
Speaker 3: were able to so comprehensively complete the job yesterday.

1835
01:37:56,507 --> 01:37:57,627
Speaker 23: Yep, one hundred percent.

1836
01:37:57,707 --> 01:37:57,987
Speaker 9: I think.

1837
01:37:58,547 --> 01:38:01,467
Speaker 25: Yeah, we definitely wanted to take all the variables out

1838
01:38:01,507 --> 01:38:03,867
Speaker 25: the equation by finishing top and just knowing you're going

1839
01:38:03,947 --> 01:38:07,507
Speaker 25: to be in that you know, big ants come finals day.

1840
01:38:07,547 --> 01:38:10,187
Speaker 25: And then once we got there, it was pretty much

1841
01:38:10,307 --> 01:38:14,107
Speaker 25: just the same week. Our prep looked pretty pretty similar,

1842
01:38:14,187 --> 01:38:16,347
Speaker 25: and we knew it was just one more solid performance

1843
01:38:16,387 --> 01:38:18,387
Speaker 25: and we wanted to keep playing the way we've been playing.

1844
01:38:18,507 --> 01:38:21,467
Speaker 23: So but yeah, look, they're.

1845
01:38:21,027 --> 01:38:22,827
Speaker 25: Not easy to beat at the best of times, and

1846
01:38:23,347 --> 01:38:26,187
Speaker 25: in their own backyard. It's it's nice that we managed

1847
01:38:26,187 --> 01:38:26,787
Speaker 25: to take that off.

1848
01:38:27,267 --> 01:38:28,627
Speaker 3: It was a bit of a sort of a what

1849
01:38:28,747 --> 01:38:30,507
Speaker 3: I want to say, a slower start to the T

1850
01:38:30,707 --> 01:38:32,587
Speaker 3: twenty campaign, a bit up and down. I guess you'd

1851
01:38:32,627 --> 01:38:34,067
Speaker 3: say you sort of came home with a wet sial

1852
01:38:34,187 --> 01:38:38,027
Speaker 3: to finish top. Any particular reason why why it was

1853
01:38:38,387 --> 01:38:40,987
Speaker 3: a bit inconsistent to start the T twenty season.

1854
01:38:43,027 --> 01:38:45,027
Speaker 23: Yeah, look it was. I think it was. There's a

1855
01:38:45,067 --> 01:38:47,267
Speaker 23: bit a bit of you know, the scheduling was a

1856
01:38:47,307 --> 01:38:47,787
Speaker 23: little bit.

1857
01:38:49,227 --> 01:38:51,747
Speaker 25: Slower at the start for us, and then we actually

1858
01:38:51,787 --> 01:38:56,027
Speaker 25: didn't really take much momentum from our one day campaign unfortunately.

1859
01:38:56,227 --> 01:38:58,867
Speaker 25: So uh yeah, we kind of started with a rain

1860
01:38:58,947 --> 01:39:02,067
Speaker 25: now a loss, and then a tie which kind of

1861
01:39:02,627 --> 01:39:05,147
Speaker 25: actually started to get us going that That tie was

1862
01:39:05,707 --> 01:39:09,547
Speaker 25: extremely There was a few you know, crazy things that

1863
01:39:09,667 --> 01:39:11,947
Speaker 25: did happen to get us there, but it sort of

1864
01:39:11,987 --> 01:39:14,427
Speaker 25: showed us that, you know, we can play that brand

1865
01:39:14,467 --> 01:39:16,747
Speaker 25: of cricket and it gave us a bit of a

1866
01:39:16,827 --> 01:39:18,067
Speaker 25: leg up on how we wanted to play.

1867
01:39:18,387 --> 01:39:19,667
Speaker 3: So I guess you get to a final and it

1868
01:39:19,707 --> 01:39:21,747
Speaker 3: doesn't mean anything, does that. It's just one game? But

1869
01:39:22,347 --> 01:39:25,587
Speaker 3: you kept them to one seventy one? Were you pretty

1870
01:39:25,627 --> 01:39:28,347
Speaker 3: comfortable chasing that? Yeah?

1871
01:39:28,387 --> 01:39:29,907
Speaker 23: We thought it was probably just below par.

1872
01:39:30,467 --> 01:39:33,187
Speaker 25: Look those those two at the end there, Leo Carter

1873
01:39:33,307 --> 01:39:35,427
Speaker 25: and Mitch hated extremely well to sort of put the

1874
01:39:35,467 --> 01:39:37,627
Speaker 25: acid back on us, and we would have hoped to

1875
01:39:37,947 --> 01:39:40,227
Speaker 25: sort of get them down to that sort of one

1876
01:39:40,347 --> 01:39:44,427
Speaker 25: fifty mark, but look, it's the nature of the game, like,

1877
01:39:44,627 --> 01:39:47,027
Speaker 25: you know, anyone can come out and have a great day,

1878
01:39:47,107 --> 01:39:49,627
Speaker 25: and those two batter beautifully and we probably just missed

1879
01:39:49,667 --> 01:39:52,547
Speaker 25: a little bit with the ball, and then yeah, look

1880
01:39:52,667 --> 01:39:54,267
Speaker 25: to chase it off. We knew we're going to need

1881
01:39:54,307 --> 01:39:56,547
Speaker 25: a good start, and those two boys at the top

1882
01:39:56,587 --> 01:40:00,667
Speaker 25: of the order have just been outstanding. So without them, yeah,

1883
01:40:00,667 --> 01:40:04,067
Speaker 25: there's just no chance that we could even be competing.

1884
01:40:04,547 --> 01:40:06,107
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and how good have they been? I

1885
01:40:06,147 --> 01:40:09,747
Speaker 3: mean Cartonny Clark and Brett Hampton. I think Cartoony's the

1886
01:40:09,787 --> 01:40:13,827
Speaker 3: top run scorer in the camp, Brett is fourth. You know,

1887
01:40:14,187 --> 01:40:17,027
Speaker 3: how crucial and integral have those guys been at the

1888
01:40:17,107 --> 01:40:19,867
Speaker 3: top of your order across the Supersmash season.

1889
01:40:21,427 --> 01:40:27,787
Speaker 23: Yeah, there's money come by them. Literally. Yeah, that's kind

1890
01:40:27,827 --> 01:40:28,667
Speaker 23: of been infictious.

1891
01:40:28,747 --> 01:40:31,267
Speaker 25: The way sort of Hammer got the opportunity was through

1892
01:40:31,267 --> 01:40:34,347
Speaker 25: an injury for Joe Carter sort of out the blue,

1893
01:40:34,387 --> 01:40:36,987
Speaker 25: and then you know he's just gone out there and

1894
01:40:37,067 --> 01:40:39,667
Speaker 25: fully committed and We've always known that he could hit

1895
01:40:39,707 --> 01:40:43,267
Speaker 25: the biggest sixers in the country, but to go out

1896
01:40:43,307 --> 01:40:46,587
Speaker 25: and sort of do it consistently and then carton a

1897
01:40:46,747 --> 01:40:49,147
Speaker 25: to back up, you know, a solid season last year

1898
01:40:49,267 --> 01:40:52,747
Speaker 25: with this season this year just batting. You know, he

1899
01:40:52,827 --> 01:40:54,547
Speaker 25: managed to strike at about one hundred and seventy for

1900
01:40:54,587 --> 01:40:57,427
Speaker 25: the whole campaign, and he didn't really look like he

1901
01:40:57,587 --> 01:41:00,827
Speaker 25: took a risk. So yeah, when you got those guys

1902
01:41:00,867 --> 01:41:02,667
Speaker 25: out there doing it and they managed to put together

1903
01:41:02,747 --> 01:41:06,267
Speaker 25: five or six fifty partnerships, I can tell you one

1904
01:41:06,347 --> 01:41:08,427
Speaker 25: thing for free. When you're sitting there at three and four,

1905
01:41:08,587 --> 01:41:10,347
Speaker 25: certainly gives you a bit more confidence to head out

1906
01:41:10,347 --> 01:41:11,107
Speaker 25: there and give it a whack.

1907
01:41:11,867 --> 01:41:14,827
Speaker 3: I bet it does. You must feel Canterbury a little bit.

1908
01:41:14,867 --> 01:41:16,187
Speaker 3: I mean, you go out there to win the game.

1909
01:41:16,507 --> 01:41:19,267
Speaker 3: What's that there's sixth straight final. Haven't won any of them.

1910
01:41:19,547 --> 01:41:21,867
Speaker 3: I guess you know tides turn, don't they and T

1911
01:41:22,027 --> 01:41:23,787
Speaker 3: twenty can be very fickle. But do you kind of

1912
01:41:23,827 --> 01:41:25,787
Speaker 3: feel a little bit for your you know, for your

1913
01:41:25,787 --> 01:41:27,267
Speaker 3: opposite Comaconki and his team.

1914
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Speaker 23: Yep, no, look mate, it's it's obviously not the shed

1915
01:41:31,427 --> 01:41:31,947
Speaker 23: you want to be in.

1916
01:41:33,507 --> 01:41:38,307
Speaker 25: Look, they've they've they've always been massive competitive and they've

1917
01:41:38,347 --> 01:41:40,547
Speaker 25: shown that by getting to six finals. Like it's not

1918
01:41:40,827 --> 01:41:45,147
Speaker 25: it's not easy in this competition. There's some serious quality

1919
01:41:45,227 --> 01:41:48,027
Speaker 25: cricket and they've managed to do it. And they had

1920
01:41:48,067 --> 01:41:49,827
Speaker 25: it in their own backyard, which was always going to

1921
01:41:49,827 --> 01:41:51,947
Speaker 25: be a little bit of a challenge once we saw

1922
01:41:51,987 --> 01:41:56,787
Speaker 25: them sneak into that third spot. But yeah, look for us,

1923
01:41:56,867 --> 01:41:58,747
Speaker 25: it's just yeah, we're we're pretty happy to be on

1924
01:41:58,827 --> 01:42:00,827
Speaker 25: the right side of the ledger because we know that,

1925
01:42:01,067 --> 01:42:03,067
Speaker 25: you know, we've had times when it's it's very tough

1926
01:42:03,107 --> 01:42:06,267
Speaker 25: to beat a side like that. And for Cole, I mean, look,

1927
01:42:06,427 --> 01:42:09,627
Speaker 25: he's he's just actually been their rock mate, Like he

1928
01:42:09,787 --> 01:42:11,227
Speaker 25: just does so much for them with the bat of

1929
01:42:11,227 --> 01:42:12,347
Speaker 25: the ball and in the field and.

1930
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Speaker 23: As a leader. I've got no doubt that, you know,

1931
01:42:14,827 --> 01:42:15,987
Speaker 23: they'll get there at some stage.

1932
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Speaker 3: Absolutely in the Northern District's production line seems to be going. Okay,

1933
01:42:20,627 --> 01:42:23,827
Speaker 3: of enjoyed watching Xavier Bell. He wouldn't be twenty yet.

1934
01:42:23,827 --> 01:42:24,987
Speaker 3: I think you had a couple of guys on the

1935
01:42:25,027 --> 01:42:27,387
Speaker 3: New Zealand Under nine teams at the moment, So the

1936
01:42:27,827 --> 01:42:29,267
Speaker 3: production line going okay.

1937
01:42:30,307 --> 01:42:32,387
Speaker 23: Yeah it is mate, Yeah, it certainly is.

1938
01:42:32,907 --> 01:42:36,827
Speaker 25: The boys, Yeah coming in and expressing themselves from the

1939
01:42:36,867 --> 01:42:40,387
Speaker 25: get go, which is down to, I guess the culture

1940
01:42:40,427 --> 01:42:42,907
Speaker 25: that's been created with this group of guys over the

1941
01:42:42,987 --> 01:42:46,867
Speaker 25: last however many seasons. And yeah, that one game in

1942
01:42:46,907 --> 01:42:49,947
Speaker 25: Hamilton for him, I was actually injured and sitting on

1943
01:42:50,027 --> 01:42:52,467
Speaker 25: the couch and found myself sort of clapping and cheering

1944
01:42:52,587 --> 01:42:52,827
Speaker 25: like a.

1945
01:42:55,067 --> 01:42:56,147
Speaker 3: A bit of a kid as well.

1946
01:42:56,307 --> 01:42:59,987
Speaker 25: So, you know, great to have guys like that achieved

1947
01:42:59,987 --> 01:43:02,587
Speaker 25: something like this in their first season. I was actually

1948
01:43:02,587 --> 01:43:05,507
Speaker 25: having a good chat to him last night. It's nice

1949
01:43:05,547 --> 01:43:09,827
Speaker 25: to know what Jeff to do to win and win things,

1950
01:43:10,107 --> 01:43:12,547
Speaker 25: you know, the whole way through. So he's managed to

1951
01:43:12,587 --> 01:43:14,747
Speaker 25: do that in his first season. And benning for Mardes

1952
01:43:14,747 --> 01:43:16,947
Speaker 25: also you know, come in and skip it a few

1953
01:43:17,027 --> 01:43:19,787
Speaker 25: games and early in his career picked up a good you.

1954
01:43:19,827 --> 01:43:21,027
Speaker 23: Know, Super smash title.

1955
01:43:21,147 --> 01:43:24,427
Speaker 25: So for all these guys, hopefully it's just that building

1956
01:43:24,507 --> 01:43:27,107
Speaker 25: block to keep trying to do it in white ball

1957
01:43:27,147 --> 01:43:27,987
Speaker 25: cricket moving forward.

1958
01:43:28,107 --> 01:43:30,867
Speaker 3: Yeah, tremendous. Hey, congratulations Robbie on picking up the Super

1959
01:43:30,907 --> 01:43:33,707
Speaker 3: Smash title. Back to Ford Trophy then Planket Chield. I guess,

1960
01:43:33,747 --> 01:43:35,067
Speaker 3: so all the best for the rest of the summer

1961
01:43:35,107 --> 01:43:37,347
Speaker 3: and thanks for taking the time for a chat mate.

1962
01:43:37,467 --> 01:43:39,307
Speaker 23: No stress at all. Thanks guys, appreciate it.

1963
01:43:39,387 --> 01:43:41,467
Speaker 3: No, I appreciate you joining us. Robbie Robbi o'donald their

1964
01:43:41,507 --> 01:43:45,267
Speaker 3: victorious captain for the Northern Brave. They have earned Super

1965
01:43:45,347 --> 01:43:49,947
Speaker 3: Smash Championship credentials for the summer of twenty five, twenty

1966
01:43:50,067 --> 01:43:52,707
Speaker 3: six to twenty eight. Let's take a break, come back

1967
01:43:52,827 --> 01:43:54,507
Speaker 3: and for the first time on this show, we're going

1968
01:43:54,547 --> 01:44:00,067
Speaker 3: to talk High Rocks, rapidly growing global indoor fitness competition.

1969
01:44:00,387 --> 01:44:04,507
Speaker 3: Over eleven thousand participants at the Auckland Showgrounds over the

1970
01:44:04,587 --> 01:44:08,027
Speaker 3: last four days. What's it all about? Nazari Bodyfit Training

1971
01:44:08,107 --> 01:44:11,427
Speaker 3: Jim owner and High Rocks ambassador going to join us

1972
01:44:11,467 --> 01:44:12,627
Speaker 3: to tell us more in just a moment.

1973
01:44:13,027 --> 01:44:15,627
Speaker 1: Don't get caught offside Call eight hundred and eighty ten

1974
01:44:15,667 --> 01:44:19,987
Speaker 1: eight Weekends sport Us with Jason Pym and TJ Gardnerhomes

1975
01:44:20,187 --> 01:44:23,227
Speaker 1: New Zealand's most trusted home builder newstalgs.

1976
01:44:22,787 --> 01:44:25,987
Speaker 3: NB coming up twenty eight away from three. High Rocks

1977
01:44:26,107 --> 01:44:28,987
Speaker 3: is back for twenty twenty six. This rapidly growing global

1978
01:44:29,027 --> 01:44:33,707
Speaker 3: indoor fitness competition founded in twenty seventeen. It combines eight

1979
01:44:33,827 --> 01:44:38,787
Speaker 3: kilometers of running with eight workout stations. Participants run one

1980
01:44:38,907 --> 01:44:42,987
Speaker 3: kilometer followed by one workout station, repeating that eight times.

1981
01:44:43,067 --> 01:44:46,627
Speaker 3: Participation has nearly doubled since at debut in New Zealand

1982
01:44:46,707 --> 01:44:50,747
Speaker 3: last year, rising from six thousand to nearly eleven thousand

1983
01:44:50,907 --> 01:44:54,027
Speaker 3: athletes this time around. The event's been taking place these

1984
01:44:54,107 --> 01:44:57,627
Speaker 3: last four days at the Auckland show Grounds. A bus

1985
01:44:57,747 --> 01:45:00,347
Speaker 3: Nazari is a body fit training gym owner in Wellington

1986
01:45:00,707 --> 01:45:04,467
Speaker 3: and High Rocks ambassador, also a coach, best selling author

1987
01:45:04,787 --> 01:45:07,427
Speaker 3: and public speaker. He's com in a number of High

1988
01:45:07,507 --> 01:45:10,987
Speaker 3: Rocks Pro events and he joins us now of us.

1989
01:45:11,027 --> 01:45:12,267
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, mat, I want to get a

1990
01:45:12,307 --> 01:45:14,067
Speaker 3: run down of the format in a moment. But why

1991
01:45:14,227 --> 01:45:17,227
Speaker 3: has the sport grown in popularity so quickly?

1992
01:45:18,667 --> 01:45:19,107
Speaker 14: Afternoon?

1993
01:45:19,147 --> 01:45:21,827
Speaker 21: Fine, thanks so much for having me. Mate. Look, I'm

1994
01:45:21,987 --> 01:45:23,867
Speaker 21: here on day four of High Rocks Auckland and I

1995
01:45:23,907 --> 01:45:26,707
Speaker 21: can kind of see two main reasons why it's grown

1996
01:45:26,827 --> 01:45:30,947
Speaker 21: so much. One, there's a real nice sensor community here

1997
01:45:31,027 --> 01:45:33,507
Speaker 21: at the events. You know, if it's your first one,

1998
01:45:33,987 --> 01:45:35,907
Speaker 21: you just grab your gym mates and be like, hey mate,

1999
01:45:35,947 --> 01:45:37,387
Speaker 21: we're going to do this as a doubles or we're

2000
01:45:37,387 --> 01:45:40,427
Speaker 21: going to do this as a relay and Secondly, it's

2001
01:45:40,827 --> 01:45:43,307
Speaker 21: super accessible. I think in this day and age especially,

2002
01:45:44,387 --> 01:45:47,027
Speaker 21: people are super mindful of their health and wellness, and

2003
01:45:47,267 --> 01:45:49,187
Speaker 21: you know, they want to train for a goal. They

2004
01:45:49,267 --> 01:45:51,667
Speaker 21: might have a running goal or a strength training goal

2005
01:45:51,747 --> 01:45:55,107
Speaker 21: in the sport itself. Even though on paper it sounds

2006
01:45:55,187 --> 01:45:57,507
Speaker 21: like a lot, it's actually very very accessible.

2007
01:45:58,467 --> 01:46:02,467
Speaker 3: So the attraction, I guess from a wider point of

2008
01:46:02,547 --> 01:46:06,787
Speaker 3: view is that any age, any fitness level can take part.

2009
01:46:06,867 --> 01:46:10,267
Speaker 3: It is the accessibility across a wide spectrum of people

2010
01:46:10,347 --> 01:46:12,227
Speaker 3: that would be an attraction for a lot of people.

2011
01:46:13,307 --> 01:46:15,107
Speaker 14: Yeah, one hundred percent. That's the key thing.

2012
01:46:15,347 --> 01:46:17,907
Speaker 21: Other fitness events, you know, might de two people just

2013
01:46:17,987 --> 01:46:20,827
Speaker 21: because maybe there's a high barrier entry, maybe there's a

2014
01:46:20,947 --> 01:46:24,347
Speaker 21: higher skill level required and whatnot. Whereas high rocks. If

2015
01:46:24,387 --> 01:46:27,227
Speaker 21: you look around the arena right now, you'll see bodies

2016
01:46:27,267 --> 01:46:30,147
Speaker 21: of all shapes and sizes and ages, and there's something

2017
01:46:30,227 --> 01:46:33,027
Speaker 21: for everyone. Like, for example, you know, I compete in

2018
01:46:33,187 --> 01:46:36,907
Speaker 21: the solo pro division, which means I'm doing the whole

2019
01:46:36,947 --> 01:46:40,267
Speaker 21: thing by myself with heavier weights. But if it's someone's

2020
01:46:40,307 --> 01:46:43,747
Speaker 21: first time, they might enter in the doubles open where

2021
01:46:43,787 --> 01:46:47,427
Speaker 21: they're basically harving the work with a teammate and they're

2022
01:46:47,507 --> 01:46:50,307
Speaker 21: using lighter open weights. And you also could do it

2023
01:46:50,347 --> 01:46:52,947
Speaker 21: as a relay as well. You can do it mixed doubles,

2024
01:46:52,987 --> 01:46:55,507
Speaker 21: you can do the same sex doubles, whatever, So there

2025
01:46:55,627 --> 01:46:58,547
Speaker 21: is really something for everybody. And then you can also

2026
01:46:58,667 --> 01:47:02,227
Speaker 21: compare yourself if you are competitive against other people in

2027
01:47:02,307 --> 01:47:05,867
Speaker 21: your age bracket. So I'm only competing against other thirty

2028
01:47:05,907 --> 01:47:08,427
Speaker 21: to thirty five year old males and so on and

2029
01:47:08,547 --> 01:47:11,867
Speaker 21: so forth, right, so it's really kind of, you know,

2030
01:47:12,147 --> 01:47:14,507
Speaker 21: really opened up for everybody.

2031
01:47:15,027 --> 01:47:18,707
Speaker 3: Absolutely love that man. So there are eight workout stations,

2032
01:47:18,787 --> 01:47:21,907
Speaker 3: eight standardized workout stations. So you run a k, then

2033
01:47:21,947 --> 01:47:25,267
Speaker 3: you do one of these workout stations. So what are they? Yeah?

2034
01:47:25,307 --> 01:47:27,427
Speaker 21: Correct, So you start off, do your first one k

2035
01:47:27,667 --> 01:47:29,627
Speaker 21: and then you come into a thousand meters on the

2036
01:47:29,667 --> 01:47:32,707
Speaker 21: ski erg. Now there's a machine in most gyms, all right,

2037
01:47:32,827 --> 01:47:34,387
Speaker 21: if you're familiar with it, you know it is. If

2038
01:47:35,027 --> 01:47:36,147
Speaker 21: you're not, maybe head down.

2039
01:47:35,987 --> 01:47:37,707
Speaker 14: To your local BFT and you'll figure out.

2040
01:47:38,067 --> 01:47:39,867
Speaker 21: Then you do another one k run straight into a

2041
01:47:39,947 --> 01:47:42,827
Speaker 21: sled push all right. So again the weights are different

2042
01:47:42,907 --> 01:47:46,467
Speaker 21: depending on which category you're in. Then in a sled pool,

2043
01:47:47,347 --> 01:47:50,507
Speaker 21: again different weights. If you need, you do the burfy

2044
01:47:50,627 --> 01:47:53,227
Speaker 21: broad jumps and then a thousand meters.

2045
01:47:52,987 --> 01:47:53,547
Speaker 14: On the rower.

2046
01:47:54,187 --> 01:47:57,547
Speaker 21: You do a farmer's carry, so two kettlebells in your hand.

2047
01:47:57,627 --> 01:48:00,267
Speaker 21: The weights are different for everybody. You do some sand

2048
01:48:00,307 --> 01:48:03,547
Speaker 21: bag lunges, so a ten, twenty or thirty kilo sandbag

2049
01:48:03,627 --> 01:48:07,627
Speaker 21: over the shoulder, and then everyone finishes with one hundred

2050
01:48:07,707 --> 01:48:11,387
Speaker 21: reps of the wall Walls, which is personally my favorite station.

2051
01:48:12,627 --> 01:48:15,627
Speaker 3: I could say, without fear of contradiction, that the Burpies

2052
01:48:15,667 --> 01:48:17,667
Speaker 3: would be the least popular of the eight.

2053
01:48:20,107 --> 01:48:21,787
Speaker 21: Finding you and me are on the same page, made

2054
01:48:21,827 --> 01:48:25,107
Speaker 21: the Burpies are definitely not my favorite either, So.

2055
01:48:25,227 --> 01:48:26,267
Speaker 14: I struggle on now one.

2056
01:48:26,467 --> 01:48:28,827
Speaker 21: But and it's right at the halfway point. So that's

2057
01:48:28,867 --> 01:48:30,587
Speaker 21: how I kind of treat myself. I said, get over

2058
01:48:30,627 --> 01:48:33,147
Speaker 21: the Burpies. That's the halfway mark, and then the the

2059
01:48:33,227 --> 01:48:34,787
Speaker 21: other four stations after that.

2060
01:48:34,827 --> 01:48:37,067
Speaker 3: I'm happy with love it. Do you find that people

2061
01:48:37,147 --> 01:48:40,267
Speaker 3: get into it and then they really get into it.

2062
01:48:40,347 --> 01:48:42,427
Speaker 3: You know, they think, hey, this is first of all,

2063
01:48:42,467 --> 01:48:44,147
Speaker 3: it's making me feel good. I feel good. It's good

2064
01:48:44,187 --> 01:48:46,267
Speaker 3: for my well being. But they want to beat their time,

2065
01:48:46,347 --> 01:48:47,907
Speaker 3: they want to beat others in their age group. They

2066
01:48:47,947 --> 01:48:49,187
Speaker 3: want to make it a bit competitive.

2067
01:48:50,227 --> 01:48:53,467
Speaker 21: Yeah, one hundred percent. I think it just from I

2068
01:48:53,507 --> 01:48:58,507
Speaker 21: guess a consumer perspective. It's so measurable. It's like running

2069
01:48:58,547 --> 01:49:00,787
Speaker 21: a marathon or a half marathon. You're like, my half

2070
01:49:00,827 --> 01:49:03,307
Speaker 21: marathon time is this, and you want to train and

2071
01:49:03,467 --> 01:49:05,387
Speaker 21: do better next time, and you want to bring that

2072
01:49:05,467 --> 01:49:08,027
Speaker 21: time down and get faster and so on. It's exactly

2073
01:49:08,067 --> 01:49:10,107
Speaker 21: the same with high rocks. You come in, you do

2074
01:49:10,187 --> 01:49:11,827
Speaker 21: your first one, and you say, oh, you know, I've

2075
01:49:11,827 --> 01:49:15,667
Speaker 21: got seventy minutes in my first open race. The next

2076
01:49:15,707 --> 01:49:17,067
Speaker 21: time you do it, I'm going to train to try

2077
01:49:17,107 --> 01:49:19,667
Speaker 21: and grab sixty five minutes or whatever your target might be.

2078
01:49:20,147 --> 01:49:23,867
Speaker 21: So the sport and the weights and that never change.

2079
01:49:23,907 --> 01:49:27,587
Speaker 21: It's the same structure every time, so you know exactly

2080
01:49:27,627 --> 01:49:30,867
Speaker 21: what you're getting yourself into. So it's just about getting better,

2081
01:49:31,067 --> 01:49:33,747
Speaker 21: more efficient that you're running, getting better technique, and so

2082
01:49:33,907 --> 01:49:37,187
Speaker 21: on and so forth. So I would say, out of

2083
01:49:37,427 --> 01:49:39,707
Speaker 21: many sports, this one has to have probably one of

2084
01:49:39,747 --> 01:49:43,627
Speaker 21: the highest I guess retention rates. You know, people who

2085
01:49:43,707 --> 01:49:45,747
Speaker 21: do one, they immediately sign up for the next one

2086
01:49:45,827 --> 01:49:47,507
Speaker 21: and the next one. And I think that's why, like

2087
01:49:47,587 --> 01:49:50,267
Speaker 21: you mentioned before, you know, going from six thousand to

2088
01:49:50,347 --> 01:49:53,267
Speaker 21: eleven thousand in the space of a year here in Auckland.

2089
01:49:53,787 --> 01:49:54,947
Speaker 14: You know it's saying something.

2090
01:49:55,267 --> 01:49:57,947
Speaker 3: Absolutely it is. So when you're in the competitive side

2091
01:49:57,987 --> 01:50:00,907
Speaker 3: of it, a bus, do you are the others in

2092
01:50:00,987 --> 01:50:03,787
Speaker 3: your division competing at the same time or do you

2093
01:50:04,467 --> 01:50:05,987
Speaker 3: So it's like a race, you can see if you're

2094
01:50:05,987 --> 01:50:08,307
Speaker 3: behind or are you just going at this sitting a time?

2095
01:50:09,627 --> 01:50:10,187
Speaker 14: Yeah, for sure.

2096
01:50:10,267 --> 01:50:14,347
Speaker 21: So at the competitive end, basically you might let's say

2097
01:50:14,507 --> 01:50:17,467
Speaker 21: this weekend in Auckland, we might have had I don't know,

2098
01:50:17,667 --> 01:50:20,987
Speaker 21: one hundred and fifty men compete in the solo pro

2099
01:50:21,147 --> 01:50:25,387
Speaker 21: division and they might have been released out in waves

2100
01:50:25,587 --> 01:50:28,867
Speaker 21: or heats or forty at a time ten minutes apart.

2101
01:50:29,547 --> 01:50:33,347
Speaker 21: So everyone's got their own timing chip and basically you

2102
01:50:33,427 --> 01:50:35,907
Speaker 21: know you're competing for time. But once you've crossed the

2103
01:50:35,947 --> 01:50:37,947
Speaker 21: finish line, you wait until everyone's done and then you

2104
01:50:38,027 --> 01:50:41,387
Speaker 21: can kind of see how everybody did. And the data

2105
01:50:41,507 --> 01:50:45,467
Speaker 21: is super accessible. You can see immediately online which stations

2106
01:50:45,507 --> 01:50:48,227
Speaker 21: you did well, what your average run was, which stations

2107
01:50:48,307 --> 01:50:50,507
Speaker 21: maybe you got pipped on and so on so forth,

2108
01:50:51,107 --> 01:50:53,307
Speaker 21: and that's something as a data geek myself, there's something

2109
01:50:53,347 --> 01:50:55,587
Speaker 21: I love because after a race I can do a

2110
01:50:55,627 --> 01:50:57,907
Speaker 21: little bit of a post mortem analysis and be like, Okay,

2111
01:50:57,987 --> 01:50:59,987
Speaker 21: I lost time here, I made up here, this is

2112
01:51:00,027 --> 01:51:02,787
Speaker 21: where someone else overtook me, and so on, and you

2113
01:51:02,947 --> 01:51:05,867
Speaker 21: then it then informs your training for the next block

2114
01:51:06,387 --> 01:51:08,947
Speaker 21: to be like, well, if I'm losing time on the

2115
01:51:09,027 --> 01:51:11,187
Speaker 21: row work, then maybe I need to work on that.

2116
01:51:11,347 --> 01:51:15,227
Speaker 3: You know, how different are are your eight separate one

2117
01:51:15,307 --> 01:51:18,747
Speaker 3: kilometer runs? Do you find you go quicker at the start,

2118
01:51:19,427 --> 01:51:21,027
Speaker 3: quicker at the end? Does it vary?

2119
01:51:22,067 --> 01:51:24,187
Speaker 14: That's a really good question, man, And I think.

2120
01:51:25,747 --> 01:51:27,187
Speaker 21: I do a lot of high rocks coaching at my

2121
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Speaker 21: BFT gyms in Wellington, and one of the golden rules

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Speaker 21: that we always give out to our members is start conservative.

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01:51:33,787 --> 01:51:37,667
Speaker 21: Start more conservative than you think you need because if

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Speaker 21: you go out hot and you sprint out and finish

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01:51:40,427 --> 01:51:42,827
Speaker 21: that first run, you're going to pay the price for

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Speaker 21: it later.

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Speaker 14: So we always coach our.

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Speaker 21: Members to just be a bit conservative, and as people

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01:51:48,347 --> 01:51:51,667
Speaker 21: fade away, you actually become stronger and stronger and you

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01:51:51,787 --> 01:51:53,907
Speaker 21: end up overtaking all of those people that might have

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01:51:54,027 --> 01:51:56,467
Speaker 21: looked like they were winning in the first ten minutes

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Speaker 21: of the race. Now they've started to fade away. So

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Speaker 21: at the competitive end at the pro division, these people

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Speaker 21: obviously you know that come from endurance backgrounds. A lot

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Speaker 21: of triathletes, a lot of runners, a lot of marathons

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Speaker 21: have come and they know how to pace themselves. And

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Speaker 21: I'd say a really competitive pro level solo racer know

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Speaker 21: exactly what paces they need to hit and most importantly,

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Speaker 21: how to continue holding that pace even though their legs

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01:52:23,987 --> 01:52:26,547
Speaker 21: might be feel like jelly after pushing a two hundred

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Speaker 21: kilow sled.

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Speaker 3: You know, indeed, how big is the sport globally and

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Speaker 3: how quickly is it growing? Is is it similar to

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Speaker 3: what we're seeing here in New Zealand?

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Speaker 14: Oh, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 21: I've been in the sport for this is my third

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01:52:38,867 --> 01:52:42,627
Speaker 21: season now, I've been to two World champs and I'm

2148
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Speaker 21: going to the third one in Sweden next year, and

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Speaker 21: every time.

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Speaker 14: I go, it just gets bigger and bigger and bigger.

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Speaker 21: And the numbers I've seen is that since twenty seventeen

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Speaker 21: till now, I think they said they've had just over

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Speaker 21: a million races in that time globally, and that's taken them,

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01:52:57,667 --> 01:53:00,267
Speaker 21: you know, eight nine years to get there, and they're

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Speaker 21: looking to double that just in the next year to

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Speaker 21: two million, which is insane, right, Competitions just more and

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Speaker 21: more race cities host cities globally. You know, it might

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01:53:11,907 --> 01:53:14,907
Speaker 21: have been who knows ten or twelve in the first

2159
01:53:14,987 --> 01:53:18,147
Speaker 21: year to pretty much won every weekend now globally around

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Speaker 21: the world. So now you're starting to see these things

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01:53:20,467 --> 01:53:22,587
Speaker 21: called high rocks holidays. And I'm a big victim of

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01:53:22,667 --> 01:53:26,107
Speaker 21: this where you know, on my honeymoon, for example, last year,

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01:53:26,507 --> 01:53:28,107
Speaker 21: we went we went to Japan.

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Speaker 14: I could you know.

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Speaker 21: I went to Japan for my honeymoon last year and

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01:53:31,427 --> 01:53:33,507
Speaker 21: then I told my wife, I said, baby, if we

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01:53:33,867 --> 01:53:36,307
Speaker 21: book our flights via Hong Kong, I could do high

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Speaker 21: Rocks Hong Kong and then can fly back to New Zealand.

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Speaker 10: So they are.

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Speaker 21: It's truly global and I don't see it stopping anytime soon.

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Speaker 3: You're so romantic, mate, You're so romantic.

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01:53:49,467 --> 01:53:51,827
Speaker 14: I know a couple, a couple of the high rocks

2173
01:53:51,867 --> 01:53:52,667
Speaker 14: together stay together.

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Speaker 3: So that mate, I'm sure that's true. Look, even just

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01:53:57,067 --> 01:53:59,307
Speaker 3: listening to you, you know, I know our listeners will

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01:53:59,307 --> 01:54:01,267
Speaker 3: be inspired if they want to find out more. Is

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Speaker 3: the easiest way to get into this, just find a

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Speaker 3: body fit training gym in the area.

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Speaker 21: Personally, I think people are seeing it on their social

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Speaker 21: media and they think, oh, I can go do that,

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Speaker 21: But my number one tip is go to your local gym,

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01:54:15,147 --> 01:54:18,587
Speaker 21: go to your local BFT and who are all you

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01:54:18,667 --> 01:54:21,267
Speaker 21: know high Rocks affiliated and their coaching staff are all

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Speaker 21: coached and world versed in high Rocks, and really learn

2185
01:54:24,667 --> 01:54:25,907
Speaker 21: the practical.

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Speaker 14: Techniques of how to run a high Rocks.

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01:54:27,707 --> 01:54:30,427
Speaker 21: It's not just about running, it's about knowing the rules,

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01:54:30,867 --> 01:54:34,707
Speaker 21: applying the movement standards and also how to pace yourself

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01:54:35,107 --> 01:54:36,907
Speaker 21: and how to win every station and so on.

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Speaker 14: So definitely, And look, I don't know when the next

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Speaker 14: New Zealand.

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Speaker 21: Races, but I'm I'm hoping I can see you lining

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Speaker 21: up in their start tunnel.

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Speaker 14: Piney. What about that?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 28: Bus.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm in Wellington, which I know you've got

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Speaker 3: You've got gyms and Wellington avenu you. So maybe we

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01:54:50,107 --> 01:54:52,867
Speaker 3: should get together initially for a conversation and see where

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01:54:52,867 --> 01:54:55,987
Speaker 3: it takes us. What do you think I'd love that, mate?

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: So look, i'd say for listeners listening today like what

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01:55:01,387 --> 01:55:02,867
Speaker 21: is this, they'll probably go and google the were, go

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01:55:02,947 --> 01:55:05,747
Speaker 21: on Instagram and have a look. Please don't be intimidated

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01:55:05,787 --> 01:55:07,907
Speaker 21: by when they're it is and you know, there's a

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01:55:07,907 --> 01:55:10,747
Speaker 21: little running joke that it's you know, there's no tops

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01:55:10,907 --> 01:55:13,347
Speaker 21: are available here because all the guys tag their tops off.

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Speaker 14: Don't be put off by that.

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Speaker 21: It's actually really really accessible. So yeah, I'll say head

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01:55:18,867 --> 01:55:21,627
Speaker 21: down to your local gym start training. And I'm really

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01:55:21,707 --> 01:55:24,067
Speaker 21: looking forward to you know, like I've got my next

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01:55:24,147 --> 01:55:26,547
Speaker 21: race lined up in Brisbane in April and it just

2214
01:55:26,667 --> 01:55:29,067
Speaker 21: keeps me and my members really motivated to try and

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01:55:29,107 --> 01:55:30,267
Speaker 21: get better and better every time.

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Speaker 3: Tom man a Bus, I've love chatting to you, mate,

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Speaker 3: hope to meet you one day so and thanks for

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01:55:34,347 --> 01:55:35,787
Speaker 3: taking the time for a chat this afternoon.

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Speaker 14: Thanks very Jason, really appreciate it, mate.

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Speaker 3: But all the best, mate, Bye bye a Bus. Nazzari there,

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01:55:40,827 --> 01:55:43,307
Speaker 3: high rocks ambassador, what a man. I feel inspired just

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Speaker 3: listening to them. Seventeen away from three New Stalks eb.

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Speaker 1: You love Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport

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01:55:50,507 --> 01:55:54,907
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason V GJ. Gunner homes New Zealand's

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Speaker 1: most trusted home builder News talksb.

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Speaker 3: The Women's Amateur Asia Pacific Championship at Royal Wellington Golf

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01:56:01,387 --> 01:56:04,267
Speaker 3: Club comes up in the middle of this month. Nine

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01:56:04,347 --> 01:56:07,427
Speaker 3: kiwi's in the field, including Caitlin Maurice, who's currently our

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01:56:07,467 --> 01:56:10,987
Speaker 3: fifth ranked New Zealand female amateur golfer. She's with us, Caitlin,

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01:56:10,987 --> 01:56:12,627
Speaker 3: thanks for joining us. How much you're looking forward to

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01:56:12,667 --> 01:56:14,947
Speaker 3: being part of this tournament on home soil in a

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01:56:14,987 --> 01:56:15,907
Speaker 3: couple of weeks from now.

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Speaker 30: Yeah, I'm absolutely so excited to get back to New

2234
01:56:19,507 --> 01:56:21,387
Speaker 30: Zealand and be able to play around home sol in

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01:56:21,427 --> 01:56:24,307
Speaker 30: front of family and friends. And No, it's such a

2236
01:56:24,507 --> 01:56:26,707
Speaker 30: cool event and I'm glad that Roe Wellington's able to

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01:56:26,747 --> 01:56:27,027
Speaker 30: host it.

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Speaker 3: How big a motivator is the chance to earn entry

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Speaker 3: into three major championships by winning this tournament?

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Speaker 29: Yeah, I mean it's massive.

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Speaker 30: It's hard to kickstart a career and this is just

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01:56:39,587 --> 01:56:44,507
Speaker 30: a massive kickstart. Just so many prestigious events you get

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01:56:44,547 --> 01:56:44,987
Speaker 30: to get into.

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Speaker 5: So no, it's very very special.

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01:56:47,227 --> 01:56:50,987
Speaker 3: Now you're from Todonga, but you're currently studying and playing

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01:56:51,107 --> 01:56:55,467
Speaker 3: at the University of Saint Andrew's in Scotland. How close

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01:56:55,507 --> 01:56:58,347
Speaker 3: are you to the iconic Saint Andrew's golf course. Is

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01:56:58,387 --> 01:56:59,227
Speaker 3: it just right there?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 29: No, super lucky, probably like what two hundred meters away driver, Yeah,

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01:57:06,627 --> 01:57:08,107
Speaker 29: a little bit, a little bit less.

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01:57:08,307 --> 01:57:11,187
Speaker 30: No, a couple of streets over so very special, you know,

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01:57:11,347 --> 01:57:15,427
Speaker 30: the daily walks to class and everything is just down

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Speaker 30: past the eighteenth.

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Speaker 3: Tell us about your golf journey, Caitlin. You know where

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01:57:20,307 --> 01:57:23,107
Speaker 3: did it begin and how is it lead to where

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01:57:23,187 --> 01:57:23,707
Speaker 3: you are now?

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Speaker 23: Yeah?

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Speaker 30: So it kind of agan o Marcrool Golf Club. That's

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01:57:28,987 --> 01:57:30,787
Speaker 30: where I did junior golf and everything.

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Speaker 29: My dad was involved with.

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01:57:31,747 --> 01:57:35,587
Speaker 30: The club, and then moved into TOTNNGA, played some pennance

2263
01:57:36,107 --> 01:57:39,987
Speaker 30: through the Bay ranks, followed in the footsteps some o

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01:57:40,027 --> 01:57:42,227
Speaker 30: the older Bay golfers, and headed off to the US

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01:57:42,507 --> 01:57:45,187
Speaker 30: on a full golf scholarship, which was just such a

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01:57:45,227 --> 01:57:47,507
Speaker 30: great opportunity for four years over there. They have it

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01:57:47,587 --> 01:57:51,307
Speaker 30: set up so well and great support. Loved my time

2268
01:57:51,427 --> 01:57:54,107
Speaker 30: and then just saw this opportunity kind of come up

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01:57:54,227 --> 01:57:57,787
Speaker 30: over in San Andrews and I kind of reached out

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01:57:57,827 --> 01:57:59,547
Speaker 30: to the coach and applied to the school and it

2271
01:57:59,707 --> 01:58:02,507
Speaker 30: just kind of all happened crazily enough. It wasn't really

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01:58:02,627 --> 01:58:06,427
Speaker 30: expected or in the plans, but no, a very very special.

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Speaker 3: Yeah here, so you're it was a golf decision to

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01:58:10,867 --> 01:58:13,667
Speaker 3: go to Scotland. But I know you're studying there as well,

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01:58:13,707 --> 01:58:15,507
Speaker 3: but it was mainly a golf decision.

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Speaker 30: I mean it's the home of golf, so it's a

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01:58:18,627 --> 01:58:22,987
Speaker 30: pretty special place to be golfing. But also academically it's

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Speaker 30: one of the best rank universities in the UK, So

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Speaker 30: for me, I was like, it's kind of a win

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Speaker 30: win situation there.

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Speaker 3: How different has it been playing golf in Scotland on

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01:58:31,027 --> 01:58:33,867
Speaker 3: what I assume and mainly links courses?

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01:58:35,227 --> 01:58:38,827
Speaker 29: Yeah, all links courses? Well right now it's like minus

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01:58:38,907 --> 01:58:44,867
Speaker 29: five degrees and blown like for us now, so definitely different.

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01:58:46,467 --> 01:58:49,027
Speaker 30: But I just everyone loves the game over here, like

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01:58:49,347 --> 01:58:51,387
Speaker 30: no matter it's like your hair dresser or people you

2287
01:58:51,467 --> 01:58:52,347
Speaker 30: be in the supermarket legue.

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Speaker 29: Everyone plays golf just for fun. So it's just such

2289
01:58:54,667 --> 01:58:55,787
Speaker 29: a cool community.

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Speaker 5: To be a part of.

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Speaker 30: In the history here and no, it's so special to

2292
01:59:01,507 --> 01:59:03,427
Speaker 30: be able to play over here. And the courses are insane.

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01:59:03,907 --> 01:59:06,987
Speaker 3: So have you you've played Santandre presumably?

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01:59:07,067 --> 01:59:07,227
Speaker 8: Have you?

2295
01:59:07,427 --> 01:59:08,747
Speaker 3: Or yet? Are you not allowed to get on there?

2296
01:59:08,787 --> 01:59:09,827
Speaker 3: What's the situation with that?

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01:59:11,107 --> 01:59:11,147
Speaker 5: No?

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01:59:11,307 --> 01:59:15,787
Speaker 29: I played there, pro played there like six to eight times.

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01:59:15,827 --> 01:59:17,827
Speaker 3: Oh wow, enough, amazing?

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01:59:17,947 --> 01:59:18,667
Speaker 29: What's like?

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01:59:18,867 --> 01:59:19,347
Speaker 3: What's it like?

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Speaker 29: It's very cool?

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01:59:21,747 --> 01:59:25,227
Speaker 30: I mean the course holds are one sixteen seventeen eighteen,

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01:59:25,227 --> 01:59:27,547
Speaker 30: because you're like iconic and like hitting over the hotel.

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01:59:28,667 --> 01:59:32,427
Speaker 30: We actually played event at the old course called the

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Speaker 30: Collegiate with some schools in the US and we've got

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Speaker 30: to stay at the old course hotel and that was

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01:59:36,667 --> 01:59:41,427
Speaker 30: pretty cool. Yeah, I mean it's kind of interesting, like

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01:59:41,507 --> 01:59:44,507
Speaker 30: you know, straight nine holes out and then straight nine

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01:59:44,547 --> 01:59:46,947
Speaker 30: holes back, so it really depends on the wind and stuff.

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01:59:48,267 --> 01:59:49,907
Speaker 3: So I see you had a win in the RNA

2312
01:59:50,067 --> 01:59:53,347
Speaker 3: Student Tour series in Ireland in October. How big a

2313
01:59:53,427 --> 01:59:54,227
Speaker 3: moment was that for you?

2314
01:59:55,947 --> 01:59:56,147
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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01:59:56,267 --> 01:59:58,067
Speaker 30: No, that was very special. Cool to do it with

2316
01:59:58,147 --> 02:00:01,347
Speaker 30: my new team actually did it in a playoff as well,

2317
02:00:01,467 --> 02:00:02,787
Speaker 30: so that's where he's you know, it gets the heart

2318
02:00:02,827 --> 02:00:05,987
Speaker 30: rate going a lot more. I mean, no matter what

2319
02:00:06,027 --> 02:00:08,587
Speaker 30: you play, wins hard. So it was really a big

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Speaker 30: confidence booster for me. Yeah, been working hard, so it

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Speaker 30: was not super cool.

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Speaker 3: Where have the big improvements come in your game since

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Speaker 3: you I mean, obviously you know you've been playing for

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02:00:18,827 --> 02:00:20,467
Speaker 3: a while now, but over the last i know, two

2325
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Speaker 3: or three years, where have you seen the big improvements

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Speaker 3: in your game?

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Speaker 30: My experience in the US had a great coach in

2328
02:00:28,427 --> 02:00:31,707
Speaker 30: the US, did lots of good short game work, a

2329
02:00:31,787 --> 02:00:34,147
Speaker 30: lot of good mental game stuff, and just kind of

2330
02:00:34,227 --> 02:00:37,187
Speaker 30: learning how to deal with the under pressure situations better.

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Speaker 23: And then just.

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Speaker 30: Enjoying it as well, like just the love for the game.

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Speaker 30: And that's what I kind of found when it came

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Speaker 30: over here, is just everyone's just so hyped to be here.

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Speaker 29: It's just hard not to be in love with it.

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Speaker 3: Well Wellington. I can't say that it's minus five degrees

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Speaker 3: in Wellington conditioned will be a bit different back here

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Speaker 3: in February. But have you had the chance to spend

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Speaker 3: any time back here in New Zealand to prepare for

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Speaker 3: the conditions that you will face next month in Wellington?

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 30: I was lucky to come home for like a month

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Speaker 30: or so over Christmas and played a lot at Akarana

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Speaker 30: Golf Club in Auckland and was able to get some

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Speaker 30: practicing in the sunshine and head off grass. So no,

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Speaker 30: it was super nice and kind of refresh some family time.

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Speaker 3: And is the plan to turn professional.

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Speaker 29: We'll see how this spring season goes, but it's definitely

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Speaker 29: on the cards.

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Speaker 3: How do you make that decision? What goes into that

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Speaker 3: decision making process?

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Speaker 29: We're the games at what opportunities are around.

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Speaker 30: I'm feeling there's Q schools that are more into the year,

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Speaker 30: and then there's so many different routes, whether you go

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Speaker 30: l et in Europe like Amelia Garvi's.

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Speaker 29: Over there right now doing well, or go the US

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Speaker 29: way Ibsen Towa.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well that that can all wait. Your

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Speaker 3: immediate point of businesses back here in New Zealand for

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Speaker 3: the upcoming Asia Pacific Amateur Championship, Caitlin, great to get

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Speaker 3: the chance to chat to you all the best. To

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Speaker 3: look forward to seeing how you go at Royal Wellington

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Speaker 3: next month.

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Speaker 29: Yes, thank you very much much, looking forward to it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining Uskaitlyn and Kayler. Maurice there said next month.

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Speaker 3: It's this month, isn't it. Yeah, February already the Women's

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Speaker 3: Amateur Asia Pacific Championship Royal Wellington Golf Club in the

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Speaker 3: middle of February, the weekend ending the fourteenth and fifteenth

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Speaker 3: the feb So it'll be eleventh and twelfth through to

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Speaker 3: the fifteenth the feb Looking forward to the top amateur

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Speaker 3: golfers in the region coming together for that tournament in

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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks seven and a half away from

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Speaker 3: That's us for Weekend Sport Today and for the weekend.

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Speaker 3: McDonald for producing the show. Tim Beverage. After three with

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Speaker 3: the Weekend Collective, we're back on Sports Talk tomorrow night.

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Speaker 3: Exit song today is the song that was number one

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Speaker 3: when Sam Ruth was born. I didn't have to go

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Speaker 3: back that far middle of two thousand and nine after

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Speaker 3: he ran the fastest mile ever by a Kiwi this

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Speaker 3: morning in yours over in the United States. What might

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Speaker 3: he achieve number one when he was born in the

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Speaker 3: middle of o nine was al City and fireflies See

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Speaker 3: tomorrow Night.

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Speaker 31: I'd like to make myself believe if his planet turned slowly,

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Speaker 31: it's hard to see that.

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Speaker 7: I'd rather stay awake when I am the sleeve because

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Speaker 7: my dreams are bursting out of the scenes.

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