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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf

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Speaker 1: Camp from News Talks ed by Measure twice call once

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Speaker 1: on eight hundred eighty ten eighty The Resident Builder with

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Speaker 1: Peter wolf Camp and Independent Building supplies the future of

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Speaker 2: Even when the grass is overgrown in the yard, even

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Speaker 2: even when William a Benn, even when you're therell.

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Speaker 3: How is a wolf?

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Speaker 2: Even when there's ghost, Even when you go around.

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Speaker 3: From the ones you love your most scream does broken

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Speaker 3: pain to being in fund of Lobos wesball when they're

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Speaker 2: Even when will then, even when you're in there alone.

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Speaker 5: Well, a very very good morning and welcome along to

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Speaker 5: the Resident Builder on Sunday here at News Talk Sat B.

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Speaker 5: You're with me Pete wolf Camp, the Resident Builder, and

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Speaker 5: this as every Sunday, is an opportunity for us to

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Speaker 5: talk about your place, basically, to talk about the things

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Speaker 5: that you'd like to do, maybe to talk about the

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Speaker 5: things that you are doing, and then maybe we can

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Speaker 5: celebrate some successes or perhaps you can ask me some

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Speaker 5: tricky questions in the hope that I might be able

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Speaker 5: to get you out of a sticky situation. I know

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Speaker 5: what it's like. Not everything goes according to plan when

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Speaker 5: you're doing jobs around the house or having other people

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Speaker 5: as well. So anything to do with building construction, the

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Speaker 5: rules and regulations, the little bits and pieces that you

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Speaker 5: that you need to use in order to complete the

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Speaker 5: job successfully. All of these things we can talk about

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Speaker 5: on this show this morning here at News Talk SeeDB.

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Speaker 5: It is, of course Easter Sunday, so very happy and

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Speaker 5: Holy Easter to all of you. Trust that. I think

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Speaker 5: it's got a slightly different vibe, isn't it like the roads?

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Speaker 5: We had to do a little bit of driving. I

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Speaker 5: Saturday in Auckland driving it can feel like five o'clock

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Speaker 5: on a Friday. It didn't. And I noticed actually in

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Speaker 5: which is Combined Building Supplies, I think it is a

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Speaker 5: very good crowd. They hate talking about the fact that,

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Speaker 5: getting those emails from their suppliers saying, hey, you know

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Speaker 5: we're paying. I was reading one email from a supply

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Speaker 5: disruption will continue for I don't know, three months, six

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Speaker 5: it's a slightly different Easter today. I have to say

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Speaker 5: in the same way that it was my pleasure to

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Speaker 5: number which is nine two nine two or ZBZB from

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Speaker 5: you're more than welcome to do that. It's Pete Atnewstook

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Speaker 5: zb dot co dot nz. Where the email can be

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Speaker 5: Except said person, using what might have been a very

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Speaker 5: how do you fix that? That's a really really good question.

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Speaker 5: But of course in order to discuss that, they were

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Speaker 5: the email, which is Pete at Newstalk SeeDB dot co

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Speaker 5: like a community community notices. It's like building notices. There's

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Speaker 5: super excited about the annual wood Turning Festival. Well it's

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Speaker 5: this Easter Sunday. Colin, Good morning, yes, good morning to you.

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Speaker 6: I have a shower three sided a glass door. The

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Speaker 6: have to renew the whole shell, which could cost anything

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Speaker 5: The shower base is an acrylic shower base pre formed,

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Speaker 5: also an acrylic lining that's stuck to the wall. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: the screws out, take the doors out. Taking the lining

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Speaker 5: plasterboard that it's fixed to is often impractical, right, and

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Speaker 5: especially if it's a three sided one, because you can

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Speaker 5: in that instance they're a bit of a throwaway unfortunately.

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Speaker 5: And then once the lining comes out, then obviously you

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Speaker 5: you who came to see it is probably being quite realistic.

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Speaker 5: Did they at all say that they could have a

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Speaker 4: No, not at all.

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Speaker 6: No, No, he was upfront and he said that I

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Speaker 5: Okay, And look, I'm not going to challenge what he's saying,

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Speaker 5: but I'm also persistent, and so I would circle around

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Speaker 5: normally do to repair a crack or a ding in

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Speaker 5: you bear no responsibility for it. So as a professional,

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Speaker 5: he's given you the correct advice, which is I could

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Speaker 5: do a repair, I could charge you for the repair,

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Speaker 5: but I kind of know that it's not really going

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Speaker 5: to cost to repair it, and I find that in

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Speaker 5: a year's time it's failed, I'm not going to hold

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Speaker 5: you responsible, but I might have got a year's use

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Speaker 5: you know, it's completely up to you how you make

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Speaker 5: that decision. But there are a couple of well, there's

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Speaker 5: a number of companies around. I'm not sure where you are,

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Speaker 5: but certainly in the Auckland area and most of the

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Speaker 5: large metropolitans, there'll be people who specialize in acrylic repairs.

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Speaker 5: So for example, we had we installed on a project

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Speaker 5: a new vanity. Someone I'm not sure who it was,

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Speaker 5: and it may well have been me either dropped a

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Speaker 5: of the corner of it.

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Speaker 7: And so.

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Speaker 5: One of the crylic facts I think they were called,

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Speaker 5: came did a little repair. It's you know, you can't

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Speaker 5: could you if you wanted to? Could you have a

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Speaker 5: gut doing the repair? And I'm not going to hold

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Speaker 5: you responsible for it and that might solve the problem.

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Speaker 6: The person that I got the card from at one

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Speaker 6: of the big Yeah hard wall cases told me they've

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Speaker 6: been up to a course and autround to repair, but

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Speaker 6: he never mentioned that. He straight away said that I

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Speaker 6: would have to replace the whole thing.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, and me that I'm going to have to

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Speaker 5: And it may well be the case. And sometimes what

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Speaker 5: it will be about is that when the shower tray

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Speaker 5: was installed, they didn't quite get the leveling out right.

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Speaker 5: So when when you install them, and they are actually

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Speaker 5: Quickly before we go to Peter to talk about showers.

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Speaker 5: Seemingly and as part of your building consent process FENS

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, two things there. You're talking about your fire,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's one of those things you know

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Speaker 8: Thing I thought of. There's a foot deck living and

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Speaker 5: Call, and we've got We've got a bunch of people

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Speaker 5: is six thirty Paul, Good morning to you.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, good morning, Peter. How are you going? I? Well, ah,

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Speaker 9: that's good. Look, I have done a fire system. I'm

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Speaker 9: Now I use a system called leap Leap.

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Speaker 9: And the beauty of the system is that you can

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Speaker 5: Yven or maintain. Is it seven thousand letters that it

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Speaker 9: The smoke of the sprinkle system will give you enough

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Speaker 5: And given that I, for a period of time used

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Speaker 9: And as well as that, the system that you put

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Speaker 5: We did a place years ago and put sprinklers into

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Speaker 5: It's a lot of water.

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Speaker 5: the electricity to the pump to ensure the pump keeps running.

435
00:25:15,215 --> 00:25:19,335
Speaker 9: No, but this particular one had it had the pump

436
00:25:19,575 --> 00:25:22,135
Speaker 9: was on the back end of a separate head.

437
00:25:22,455 --> 00:25:22,615
Speaker 7: Yeah.

438
00:25:22,655 --> 00:25:24,855
Speaker 3: Sure for them as well.

439
00:25:24,975 --> 00:25:31,135
Speaker 9: And so so if the actual pair did go out,

440
00:25:31,295 --> 00:25:33,655
Speaker 9: you you would be in the car.

441
00:25:34,495 --> 00:25:38,055
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, sure. But I think I have to say

442
00:25:38,175 --> 00:25:40,695
Speaker 5: I had a couple of discussions with people around this

443
00:25:40,855 --> 00:25:44,375
Speaker 5: type of system, and you know, if you're going to

444
00:25:44,735 --> 00:25:47,775
Speaker 5: have to make provision for fire fighting, you know, whether

445
00:25:47,855 --> 00:25:52,935
Speaker 5: that's forty four thousand letters of storage or a sprinkless system,

446
00:25:53,815 --> 00:25:57,375
Speaker 5: which the estimate that I had was about seventeen thousand dollars.

447
00:25:57,495 --> 00:25:59,695
Speaker 5: Is that kind of roughly where you landed with?

448
00:25:59,815 --> 00:26:00,095
Speaker 9: Correct?

449
00:26:00,415 --> 00:26:00,655
Speaker 5: Okay?

450
00:26:00,895 --> 00:26:00,975
Speaker 6: Ye?

451
00:26:01,655 --> 00:26:04,455
Speaker 3: The other thing that's much more straightforward.

452
00:26:03,935 --> 00:26:04,215
Speaker 5: Doesn't it.

453
00:26:04,295 --> 00:26:07,615
Speaker 9: You can you can drop your concrete water tanks into

454
00:26:07,655 --> 00:26:10,175
Speaker 9: the ground so there's only a meter them poking out yep.

455
00:26:10,415 --> 00:26:13,335
Speaker 9: And as they're only a meter poking out at the ground,

456
00:26:13,895 --> 00:26:17,015
Speaker 9: then the fire service is able to then drop its

457
00:26:17,055 --> 00:26:20,175
Speaker 9: hoses into the top of the of the tank.

458
00:26:20,495 --> 00:26:21,055
Speaker 3: Yes, all right.

459
00:26:21,135 --> 00:26:24,295
Speaker 9: You they actually don't have to phifically have a stand

460
00:26:24,975 --> 00:26:29,095
Speaker 9: because the actual point stain it's quite an expensive operator.

461
00:26:28,735 --> 00:26:28,935
Speaker 7: It is.

462
00:26:29,015 --> 00:26:33,935
Speaker 5: Well yeah, yeah, Hey, appreciate the insight and the first

463
00:26:33,975 --> 00:26:36,535
Speaker 5: hand experience of that. I really do. Paul, Thank you

464
00:26:36,695 --> 00:26:39,455
Speaker 5: very much. Peter, Sorry we were a little bit delayed

465
00:26:39,495 --> 00:26:41,255
Speaker 5: to getting to you. I'll come to you straight after

466
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Speaker 5: the break. Peter, thanks very much.

467
00:26:42,895 --> 00:26:47,495
Speaker 1: Turning ohs into She'll be right The resident builder with

468
00:26:47,695 --> 00:26:51,735
Speaker 1: Peter Wolfcam and Independent Building Supplies the Future of Kiwi

469
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Speaker 1: Building Today, Call eight hundred eighty News Talks there b.

470
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Speaker 5: Just gone six thirty nine here at news Talks there

471
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Speaker 5: be Pete good morning, Oh Peter, good morning to you.

472
00:27:01,935 --> 00:27:02,815
Speaker 9: Oh, good morning Peter.

473
00:27:02,975 --> 00:27:03,975
Speaker 5: Preecings greasings.

474
00:27:04,215 --> 00:27:07,335
Speaker 12: Yes, I just want to talk about showers and stuff.

475
00:27:07,615 --> 00:27:11,615
Speaker 12: What can happen, will happen eventually? The lady with the

476
00:27:11,695 --> 00:27:16,055
Speaker 12: cracking up base. I'm just up north a bit and

477
00:27:16,415 --> 00:27:18,135
Speaker 12: I'm not going to mention any names.

478
00:27:17,935 --> 00:27:20,775
Speaker 10: Of course, but a big builder built a house.

479
00:27:20,655 --> 00:27:24,695
Speaker 12: For my girlfriend, a brand new house, very nice bathroom,

480
00:27:24,975 --> 00:27:28,335
Speaker 12: all tiled and not the shower. They had a lining

481
00:27:28,455 --> 00:27:36,415
Speaker 12: on it and glass door, but it creaked, and well

482
00:27:36,815 --> 00:27:39,895
Speaker 12: they said, I know that's nothing, don't worry about it. Well,

483
00:27:40,055 --> 00:27:42,255
Speaker 12: but I knew as a builder of fifty years that

484
00:27:43,735 --> 00:27:48,415
Speaker 12: eventually something will happen. And of course they knocked a

485
00:27:48,495 --> 00:27:50,815
Speaker 12: hole in the wall on the outside in the hallway

486
00:27:51,375 --> 00:27:54,335
Speaker 12: to try and get under the base, spray foam in there,

487
00:27:55,095 --> 00:27:59,055
Speaker 12: which you could have worked, but it didn't. It's still

488
00:27:59,135 --> 00:28:04,975
Speaker 12: creaked away. So eventually, you know, kicking and screaming, they

489
00:28:05,095 --> 00:28:09,215
Speaker 12: ripped the whole thing out, which makes you cry a bit. Really,

490
00:28:10,255 --> 00:28:12,135
Speaker 12: it's not something you want to do, really.

491
00:28:12,215 --> 00:28:16,015
Speaker 5: It's one of those classics. And look, you know, as contractors, right,

492
00:28:16,095 --> 00:28:21,495
Speaker 5: we're always under time pressure, and time is money and

493
00:28:22,175 --> 00:28:25,735
Speaker 5: money is what clients often care about. And so I

494
00:28:25,855 --> 00:28:30,335
Speaker 5: think we've got ourselves as a sector into a space where, look,

495
00:28:30,375 --> 00:28:32,815
Speaker 5: I'm just you know, I'm so conscious about what my

496
00:28:32,895 --> 00:28:34,575
Speaker 5: invoice is going to look like and all the rest

497
00:28:34,615 --> 00:28:37,215
Speaker 5: of it that there is a temptation. And I think too,

498
00:28:37,295 --> 00:28:40,015
Speaker 5: we've developed a bit of short sight in this about

499
00:28:40,055 --> 00:28:43,335
Speaker 5: what we do in terms of I'm just doing what

500
00:28:43,455 --> 00:28:45,495
Speaker 5: I need to do in order to finish the job

501
00:28:45,575 --> 00:28:49,175
Speaker 5: and get out, whereas our horizon's got to be way

502
00:28:49,255 --> 00:28:51,695
Speaker 5: beyond that. Right, So when you're doing a job like

503
00:28:51,775 --> 00:28:56,255
Speaker 5: putting in a shower tray, which seems somehow insignificant, right,

504
00:28:56,655 --> 00:28:59,055
Speaker 5: you know, I'll just throw it in, right, I'll squirt

505
00:28:59,055 --> 00:29:00,735
Speaker 5: a bit of goop underneath it, and I'll poke it

506
00:29:00,815 --> 00:29:03,815
Speaker 5: in there, you know, and then I'm onto the next job. Well,

507
00:29:03,895 --> 00:29:07,255
Speaker 5: the fact is that shower tray should last, you know,

508
00:29:07,415 --> 00:29:11,775
Speaker 5: twenty thirty years, right at the very minimum, ideally longer,

509
00:29:11,935 --> 00:29:14,695
Speaker 5: but at the very minimum. So when we're doing this

510
00:29:14,855 --> 00:29:18,615
Speaker 5: work as contractors, we should be thinking to ourselves, is

511
00:29:18,695 --> 00:29:21,735
Speaker 5: what I'm doing today going to last for twenty years.

512
00:29:22,215 --> 00:29:24,455
Speaker 5: And the way in which I'm doing it is that

513
00:29:24,615 --> 00:29:27,535
Speaker 5: going to allow it to last for twenty years? And

514
00:29:27,655 --> 00:29:29,535
Speaker 5: then if we find that little voice in the back

515
00:29:29,535 --> 00:29:31,535
Speaker 5: of our head that goes, well, I don't think so, mate,

516
00:29:31,535 --> 00:29:33,055
Speaker 5: I don't know. If it's going to last three or

517
00:29:33,095 --> 00:29:36,535
Speaker 5: four years, then we should stop right and do it properly.

518
00:29:36,655 --> 00:29:37,295
Speaker 5: This is the thing.

519
00:29:38,495 --> 00:29:42,495
Speaker 12: Well, they ripped out the base of the shower, and

520
00:29:42,775 --> 00:29:47,495
Speaker 12: of course under there he'd put rings of silicon around

521
00:29:47,575 --> 00:29:48,375
Speaker 12: to fit the tray on.

522
00:29:48,735 --> 00:29:49,855
Speaker 10: Yep, under the tray.

523
00:29:50,255 --> 00:29:53,975
Speaker 12: Of course all of them missed, yes, missed the thing

524
00:29:54,255 --> 00:29:54,895
Speaker 12: they put it in.

525
00:29:55,535 --> 00:29:57,095
Speaker 10: It must have measured wrong or something.

526
00:29:57,375 --> 00:29:58,935
Speaker 12: But you've got to put it on the other end

527
00:29:59,015 --> 00:30:00,895
Speaker 12: so you know it gets exactly on it.

528
00:30:01,495 --> 00:30:04,375
Speaker 5: But even that, sometimes you know, if you flip the

529
00:30:04,415 --> 00:30:06,575
Speaker 5: shower tray up right so you've got it in, you

530
00:30:06,695 --> 00:30:08,455
Speaker 5: know it's level and all the rest of it. And

531
00:30:08,495 --> 00:30:10,975
Speaker 5: I'm sure in lots of cases the ground's not completely

532
00:30:11,095 --> 00:30:14,855
Speaker 5: level or completely flat, and so people go it'll be okay,

533
00:30:14,935 --> 00:30:18,055
Speaker 5: And then you get in place, you do a drive it,

534
00:30:18,175 --> 00:30:19,295
Speaker 5: you go, yeah, that's going to work.

535
00:30:19,375 --> 00:30:19,575
Speaker 10: Great.

536
00:30:20,015 --> 00:30:22,495
Speaker 5: Now I'm going to flip the tray up and I'm

537
00:30:22,535 --> 00:30:25,055
Speaker 5: going to put a big wadg of you know, the

538
00:30:25,255 --> 00:30:27,895
Speaker 5: right adhesive around each of those little round discs on

539
00:30:27,975 --> 00:30:30,775
Speaker 5: the underside of it. But then it doesn't always stick

540
00:30:30,815 --> 00:30:32,775
Speaker 5: to that particularly well, and as you're lowering it, half

541
00:30:32,815 --> 00:30:35,615
Speaker 5: the silicon falls off, right, you know what I mean.

542
00:30:35,975 --> 00:30:38,295
Speaker 5: So it's almost like you do a dry fit to

543
00:30:38,375 --> 00:30:40,135
Speaker 5: show the circles on the ground. Then you put a

544
00:30:40,175 --> 00:30:42,575
Speaker 5: bead of sealant where those circles are on the ground.

545
00:30:42,935 --> 00:30:47,135
Speaker 5: Then you lower your shower tray into it. But you

546
00:30:47,295 --> 00:30:49,015
Speaker 5: do that if you're not worried about you know, is

547
00:30:49,495 --> 00:30:52,655
Speaker 5: the client. Is my boss going to ask me, why

548
00:30:52,735 --> 00:30:55,255
Speaker 5: did it take you so long to install the shower tray? Well,

549
00:30:55,335 --> 00:30:57,015
Speaker 5: because I did it well and you won't be coming

550
00:30:57,055 --> 00:31:00,095
Speaker 5: back in five years. Yep, that's what it's about.

551
00:31:00,935 --> 00:31:03,895
Speaker 12: And this one also had the piece of concrete they

552
00:31:03,935 --> 00:31:07,255
Speaker 12: put around the pipe too. Normally when they build a

553
00:31:07,295 --> 00:31:10,935
Speaker 12: concrete floor, they'll leave a hole for the shower. Yeah,

554
00:31:10,975 --> 00:31:14,295
Speaker 12: for sure, trapped to go in and stuff. Well, they

555
00:31:14,735 --> 00:31:16,695
Speaker 12: just packed a bit of sand in the bottom of

556
00:31:16,775 --> 00:31:22,815
Speaker 12: this by three hundred hole with vertical sides and no reinforcing, right,

557
00:31:23,575 --> 00:31:27,055
Speaker 12: so concrete was virtually just floating in the middle.

558
00:31:27,535 --> 00:31:31,775
Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, it is crazy.

559
00:31:31,935 --> 00:31:33,575
Speaker 12: That is just not going to work.

560
00:31:34,175 --> 00:31:35,335
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can put it out.

561
00:31:35,295 --> 00:31:39,975
Speaker 5: By hand and it didn't work. So well, hey, look

562
00:31:40,335 --> 00:31:43,575
Speaker 5: at least the contractor came back to fix it, which,

563
00:31:43,735 --> 00:31:47,295
Speaker 5: to be fair, is better than some might do. Peter,

564
00:31:47,375 --> 00:31:49,335
Speaker 5: thanks very much for that. Really appreciate it. Oh eight

565
00:31:49,455 --> 00:31:51,295
Speaker 5: hundred and eighty ten eighty is then iumber to call

566
00:31:51,335 --> 00:31:54,735
Speaker 5: six forty four On Easter Sunday here news stork said,

567
00:31:54,775 --> 00:31:55,775
Speaker 5: be Pam, good morning to you.

568
00:31:56,735 --> 00:32:00,295
Speaker 13: Oh, good morning mate. I have got a water problem

569
00:32:00,535 --> 00:32:01,815
Speaker 13: with my washing machine.

570
00:32:02,375 --> 00:32:02,735
Speaker 6: I have.

571
00:32:04,775 --> 00:32:06,895
Speaker 13: To be quite honest. I had a new toilet put

572
00:32:06,935 --> 00:32:09,895
Speaker 13: in the room next door, and it's simply it's gone

573
00:32:09,975 --> 00:32:14,055
Speaker 13: in I do my I've got a front modor washing machine.

574
00:32:14,775 --> 00:32:17,895
Speaker 13: When I finished my washing, I turned the taps off,

575
00:32:18,695 --> 00:32:21,095
Speaker 13: turn the power switch off at the wall, leave the

576
00:32:21,135 --> 00:32:23,775
Speaker 13: door open so it all drives out and I can

577
00:32:23,855 --> 00:32:25,695
Speaker 13: go back an hour later and there's water in the

578
00:32:25,815 --> 00:32:26,455
Speaker 13: washing machine.

579
00:32:30,535 --> 00:32:34,015
Speaker 5: It's it's how much water, like would it be the

580
00:32:34,135 --> 00:32:37,255
Speaker 5: equivalent of the water that might sit in the hose.

581
00:32:37,935 --> 00:32:41,695
Speaker 5: So from the from the tap connection that you've got,

582
00:32:42,735 --> 00:32:45,415
Speaker 5: there's obviously a hose that goes to the machine. So

583
00:32:45,535 --> 00:32:47,615
Speaker 5: the amount of water that you're seeing in the machine,

584
00:32:47,615 --> 00:32:50,375
Speaker 5: would it be the equivalent of the amount that might

585
00:32:50,455 --> 00:32:51,175
Speaker 5: be in that hose.

586
00:32:52,575 --> 00:32:55,935
Speaker 13: Well, after three days away, I came home and there

587
00:32:56,055 --> 00:33:00,935
Speaker 13: was the water was just starting to run out the door.

588
00:33:01,495 --> 00:33:02,695
Speaker 4: Oh there's a lot of water.

589
00:33:03,695 --> 00:33:05,215
Speaker 14: And I did get the.

590
00:33:05,455 --> 00:33:09,815
Speaker 13: Washing machine people in the They've cleaned out the foot.

591
00:33:09,855 --> 00:33:11,575
Speaker 13: They said, oh, there might be something in the filter.

592
00:33:11,655 --> 00:33:14,575
Speaker 13: They cleaned the filter out, pulled out a little hairclipsing,

593
00:33:15,215 --> 00:33:18,335
Speaker 13: and away they went. And they said that that's your problem.

594
00:33:18,655 --> 00:33:19,255
Speaker 13: He said, great.

595
00:33:20,175 --> 00:33:20,375
Speaker 7: Hello.

596
00:33:20,695 --> 00:33:26,495
Speaker 13: Two days later, yep, okay. A young guy came in

597
00:33:26,575 --> 00:33:28,575
Speaker 13: and put new waters on the tip for me and

598
00:33:29,495 --> 00:33:32,495
Speaker 13: on the tub and he said, oh, well that looked

599
00:33:32,495 --> 00:33:35,135
Speaker 13: all right, but he renewed them anyway. So the machine

600
00:33:35,535 --> 00:33:39,175
Speaker 13: washing machine people came back. They have put new solenoids

601
00:33:39,295 --> 00:33:40,255
Speaker 13: in the washing machine.

602
00:33:42,375 --> 00:33:44,935
Speaker 5: No no fixing, no fixing.

603
00:33:46,335 --> 00:33:50,255
Speaker 13: Ill do I call the plump I've spoken to the

604
00:33:50,335 --> 00:33:52,775
Speaker 13: plumber and he said it would have nothing to do

605
00:33:52,935 --> 00:33:55,815
Speaker 13: with the the new shower and the new toilet that

606
00:33:55,935 --> 00:34:01,855
Speaker 13: went in, because water runs can't run uphill, and so therefore,

607
00:34:02,015 --> 00:34:04,175
Speaker 13: if there had been something to do with the shower,

608
00:34:05,695 --> 00:34:07,935
Speaker 13: the water would be coming back up through the shower.

609
00:34:10,375 --> 00:34:11,695
Speaker 15: It must be the washing machine.

610
00:34:12,455 --> 00:34:15,815
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's I'm just trying to think, is

611
00:34:15,895 --> 00:34:18,015
Speaker 5: it possible for the water to track from the shower

612
00:34:18,095 --> 00:34:21,375
Speaker 5: into the washing machine? Though, I mean the only way

613
00:34:21,415 --> 00:34:24,215
Speaker 5: the water Let's assume that the only way the water

614
00:34:24,295 --> 00:34:27,255
Speaker 5: can get into the washing machine is through the hose

615
00:34:27,335 --> 00:34:31,135
Speaker 5: pipe that connects it to the mains right to the supply,

616
00:34:31,855 --> 00:34:37,815
Speaker 5: because otherwise you would see a pathway. And it's He's

617
00:34:37,895 --> 00:34:39,855
Speaker 5: right in the sense that it's it's if there was

618
00:34:39,895 --> 00:34:42,255
Speaker 5: a problem in the shower, it's not going to suddenly

619
00:34:42,335 --> 00:34:46,615
Speaker 5: appear in the washing machine. So has anyone actually disconnected

620
00:34:46,695 --> 00:34:52,415
Speaker 5: the hose from the fitting in the laundry and see

621
00:34:52,535 --> 00:34:56,495
Speaker 5: whether any water drips out of the hose tap because

622
00:34:56,695 --> 00:34:59,215
Speaker 5: it might just be possible that there's some grit or

623
00:34:59,295 --> 00:35:02,215
Speaker 5: something like that in the fitting in the actual little

624
00:35:02,895 --> 00:35:07,055
Speaker 5: tap part. That means that it won't turn off completely,

625
00:35:08,495 --> 00:35:12,815
Speaker 5: So that would be the well. I mean, i'd like

626
00:35:12,935 --> 00:35:15,695
Speaker 5: to think that almost. I mean, if you've got you

627
00:35:15,815 --> 00:35:17,655
Speaker 5: could do it, or a rouser or a friend or

628
00:35:17,655 --> 00:35:20,295
Speaker 5: a neighbor just come in turn the tap off, right,

629
00:35:20,335 --> 00:35:23,335
Speaker 5: because there's is it just cold water supply for this

630
00:35:23,575 --> 00:35:25,215
Speaker 5: washing machine or is it cold and hot?

631
00:35:25,975 --> 00:35:27,335
Speaker 13: Cold and hot cold and hot.

632
00:35:27,415 --> 00:35:30,895
Speaker 5: Okay, So underneath the laundry cabinet next to it, you'll

633
00:35:30,935 --> 00:35:33,055
Speaker 5: have the two pipes going in there. There'll be a

634
00:35:33,095 --> 00:35:38,495
Speaker 5: little fitting underneath you sink, probably with two connections. Turn

635
00:35:38,575 --> 00:35:40,895
Speaker 5: those off, disconnect the hose, have a bucket there because

636
00:35:40,895 --> 00:35:43,015
Speaker 5: a bit of water will flow out, and then turn

637
00:35:43,095 --> 00:35:46,415
Speaker 5: the taps off and just watch them and go Well,

638
00:35:46,455 --> 00:35:49,655
Speaker 5: if no water comes out, then at least you know

639
00:35:49,735 --> 00:35:52,175
Speaker 5: it's not that right. But you might find that when

640
00:35:52,695 --> 00:35:55,015
Speaker 5: you turn the tap off, you disconnect the hose and

641
00:35:55,135 --> 00:35:57,175
Speaker 5: you look at the fitting and it's still dribbling a

642
00:35:57,215 --> 00:36:00,615
Speaker 5: little bit of water because the seal's not working properly.

643
00:36:01,135 --> 00:36:04,215
Speaker 5: Then that's where that water might be coming from. That

644
00:36:04,295 --> 00:36:06,455
Speaker 5: would be where I would start anyway.

645
00:36:06,855 --> 00:36:11,335
Speaker 13: Right, Yeah, And then if there is water, is it

646
00:36:11,415 --> 00:36:12,255
Speaker 13: a plumber.

647
00:36:12,055 --> 00:36:14,455
Speaker 5: Yes, it is a plumber, because they might be able

648
00:36:14,495 --> 00:36:16,615
Speaker 5: to clean it, or maybe they're just it's a faulty

649
00:36:16,655 --> 00:36:19,655
Speaker 5: fitting or there's some grit in it that stops its

650
00:36:19,695 --> 00:36:24,175
Speaker 5: ceiling completely. They're often like a little ball valve, so

651
00:36:24,215 --> 00:36:26,015
Speaker 5: they're not hard to replace. You may just need to

652
00:36:26,095 --> 00:36:28,455
Speaker 5: replace those. But that's where I would start anyway.

653
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Speaker 13: So it would have nothing to do with the news

654
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Speaker 13: pushings that I've had put.

655
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Speaker 5: In hard to imagine how it could relate to it

656
00:36:36,375 --> 00:36:39,015
Speaker 5: because they are separate.

657
00:36:39,295 --> 00:36:41,775
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, thank you very much for it.

658
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Speaker 5: I'm happy to take suggestions if someone else has had

659
00:36:44,815 --> 00:36:48,135
Speaker 5: the similar problem, but that's where I would start anyway. Okay,

660
00:36:48,615 --> 00:36:52,255
Speaker 5: all the best. Take care Sometimes with solving these sorts

661
00:36:52,295 --> 00:36:55,215
Speaker 5: of problems, it's it's a process of elimination, right, So

662
00:36:56,015 --> 00:36:59,775
Speaker 5: what are my possible sources and then I'll work on

663
00:36:59,855 --> 00:37:04,095
Speaker 5: that one first and no a's working, right, B problem, Well,

664
00:37:04,335 --> 00:37:06,095
Speaker 5: B might be an issue. Let's have a look at that,

665
00:37:06,335 --> 00:37:09,055
Speaker 5: work your way through it. So hopefully there's a resolution. Right,

666
00:37:09,095 --> 00:37:11,095
Speaker 5: we need to take a break. It is six forty

667
00:37:11,335 --> 00:37:14,175
Speaker 5: nine at newstook s'b Probably time for one more call

668
00:37:14,255 --> 00:37:16,375
Speaker 5: before the news. So if you've got a question, call

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Speaker 5: us now, oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3: Helping you finish that five and it fixed.

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Speaker 1: You started the resident builder with Beater Wolfcamp and Independent

672
00:37:25,895 --> 00:37:29,975
Speaker 1: Building Supplies the future of Kiwi building today call oh

673
00:37:30,015 --> 00:37:32,255
Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty news talks.

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Speaker 5: There'd be now some fantastic texts, including Happy Easter. Thank

675
00:37:36,855 --> 00:37:39,335
Speaker 5: you very much, Jared, I really appreciate that can you

676
00:37:39,455 --> 00:37:42,855
Speaker 5: renew my sleepout? I'm not sure what that really means

677
00:37:43,135 --> 00:37:46,935
Speaker 5: to be fair. If this is around the granny flat legislation,

678
00:37:47,815 --> 00:37:50,895
Speaker 5: with the thought that maybe there's an existing sleepout that

679
00:37:51,055 --> 00:37:53,735
Speaker 5: doesn't have a consent, could it now be formalized? With

680
00:37:53,975 --> 00:37:58,495
Speaker 5: the new process, which is simple, standalone dwellings up to

681
00:37:58,495 --> 00:38:00,695
Speaker 5: seventy square meters may be able to be built without

682
00:38:01,015 --> 00:38:04,815
Speaker 5: necessarily requiring a building consent. No is the short answer

683
00:38:04,895 --> 00:38:07,215
Speaker 5: to that. It's only four you build. So if you've

684
00:38:07,255 --> 00:38:10,975
Speaker 5: got something on your property already and you're thinking, oh goodie,

685
00:38:11,055 --> 00:38:14,535
Speaker 5: I can get that formalized, my understanding is no, you can't.

686
00:38:15,615 --> 00:38:18,495
Speaker 5: Now this is genius. Thank you to this text who

687
00:38:18,535 --> 00:38:22,455
Speaker 5: didn't leave their name. Hey Pete, maybe it's water siphoning

688
00:38:22,575 --> 00:38:24,895
Speaker 5: back from the waste pipe. This is to address Pam's

689
00:38:24,935 --> 00:38:30,815
Speaker 5: concern around water being seen or inside her washing machine.

690
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Speaker 5: After it's a relatively new washing machine, it's just been installed.

691
00:38:35,415 --> 00:38:38,295
Speaker 5: It happened to have been installed around the same time

692
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Speaker 5: as she had work done on an adjacent shower, So

693
00:38:44,135 --> 00:38:46,055
Speaker 5: thank you for that. And I hadn't thought of that,

694
00:38:46,295 --> 00:38:49,775
Speaker 5: or I hadn't thought of it yet. So when you

695
00:38:49,975 --> 00:38:52,775
Speaker 5: install a washing machine, it's really important that the siphon

696
00:38:52,935 --> 00:38:56,375
Speaker 5: hose goes up to a certain height to where it

697
00:38:56,415 --> 00:39:01,135
Speaker 5: connects to the waste, and that if it's done too low,

698
00:39:01,775 --> 00:39:06,175
Speaker 5: water will siphon back inside or potentially siphon back inside

699
00:39:06,415 --> 00:39:09,935
Speaker 5: the washing machine. And I know this because I had

700
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Speaker 5: to read the instructions the other day when the washing

701
00:39:11,815 --> 00:39:17,095
Speaker 5: machine that we had broke down uneconomic to repair. So

702
00:39:17,815 --> 00:39:21,575
Speaker 5: after returning from travels ordered washing machine, had it delivered

703
00:39:21,575 --> 00:39:23,975
Speaker 5: on the day we returned home, ripped out the old one,

704
00:39:24,575 --> 00:39:26,855
Speaker 5: lifted out the old one, disconnected everything, put the new

705
00:39:26,895 --> 00:39:29,535
Speaker 5: one in, because what happens when you come home from traveling.

706
00:39:29,575 --> 00:39:32,815
Speaker 5: You've got a lot of washing to do anyway, And

707
00:39:33,175 --> 00:39:35,175
Speaker 5: on the instruction was very clear it needed to be

708
00:39:35,415 --> 00:39:38,295
Speaker 5: a minimum height. To be absolutely honest with you, I

709
00:39:38,415 --> 00:39:41,015
Speaker 5: think I'm slightly below that, but I figure that it's

710
00:39:41,215 --> 00:39:43,695
Speaker 5: high enough that I won't get that siphoned. So yeah,

711
00:39:43,775 --> 00:39:46,775
Speaker 5: if your outlet pipe, your waist pipe out of the

712
00:39:46,815 --> 00:39:49,455
Speaker 5: back of the washing machine goes into your connection and

713
00:39:49,615 --> 00:39:53,095
Speaker 5: it's too low, water will potentially siphon back. So hopefully, Pam,

714
00:39:53,655 --> 00:39:56,015
Speaker 5: you're still listening, and that could be something to look at,

715
00:39:56,295 --> 00:39:58,375
Speaker 5: and that would be something though that if you had

716
00:39:58,415 --> 00:40:03,015
Speaker 5: the washing machine installed by someone who offered that service, right,

717
00:40:03,055 --> 00:40:07,535
Speaker 5: who's doing it for money? Basically know that because it's

718
00:40:07,815 --> 00:40:10,375
Speaker 5: pretty clear. Actually I was super impressed and we ended

719
00:40:10,455 --> 00:40:14,735
Speaker 5: up buying a Fisher and pikel washing machine again, and

720
00:40:14,935 --> 00:40:18,335
Speaker 5: on the lid was the clear simple this is what

721
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Speaker 5: you have to do to install the washing machine. This

722
00:40:21,255 --> 00:40:24,095
Speaker 5: there's the big manual with lots and lots of pages

723
00:40:24,135 --> 00:40:27,175
Speaker 5: that no one ever really honestly reads, but just a

724
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Speaker 5: simple one pager stuck down to the lid of the

725
00:40:31,895 --> 00:40:34,455
Speaker 5: washing machine. This is what you have to do, including

726
00:40:34,615 --> 00:40:38,455
Speaker 5: the details on the siphon and the wast pipe. So

727
00:40:38,495 --> 00:40:40,975
Speaker 5: I think that might be it peak that washing machine

728
00:40:41,015 --> 00:40:43,815
Speaker 5: problem is the machine either hot or cold valves are faulty.

729
00:40:43,935 --> 00:40:46,975
Speaker 5: That's what I was thinking to Pat, But it could

730
00:40:47,015 --> 00:40:51,295
Speaker 5: also be the siphon, which is interesting. Radio. We are

731
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Speaker 5: back with more of your calls and conversation in the

732
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Speaker 5: next hour of the show. Also Rude will join us,

733
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Speaker 5: but only at about eight forty five. So it's a

734
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Speaker 5: little bit of an editorial from ridd this morning, as

735
00:41:03,695 --> 00:41:06,615
Speaker 5: opposed to the general sort of Q and A an

736
00:41:06,615 --> 00:41:09,575
Speaker 5: answer session that we normally do. So we'll continue to

737
00:41:09,655 --> 00:41:12,135
Speaker 5: do building through to all about eight forty five and

738
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Speaker 5: then we'll talk to just before the news at nine o'clock.

739
00:41:15,655 --> 00:41:17,895
Speaker 5: It is almost seven o'clock News, Sport and Weather. We'll

740
00:41:17,935 --> 00:41:20,255
Speaker 5: be back straight after that course now oh eight hundred

741
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Speaker 5: eighty ten eighty.

742
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Speaker 1: So where DIY gets unstuck call oh eight hundred eighty

743
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Speaker 1: ten eighty the Resident Builder with Peter Wilfscam and Independent

744
00:41:40,135 --> 00:41:44,535
Speaker 1: Building Supplies the future of Kiwi Building Today News Talks B.

745
00:41:45,055 --> 00:41:47,215
Speaker 5: Well, welcome back to the show. My name's Pete wolf Camp,

746
00:41:47,255 --> 00:41:49,975
Speaker 5: resident builder, and this is the Resident Builder on Sunday.

747
00:41:50,055 --> 00:41:52,375
Speaker 5: So here at News Talks B every Sunday morning we

748
00:41:52,455 --> 00:41:58,895
Speaker 5: have an opportunity to talk about building, construction rules, regulations, materials, installation,

749
00:41:59,135 --> 00:42:02,815
Speaker 5: dealing with contractors, I guess, dealing with disputes from time

750
00:42:02,895 --> 00:42:05,775
Speaker 5: to time, because it'd be interesting actually to go and

751
00:42:06,455 --> 00:42:11,255
Speaker 5: do like a survey of the types of cases held

752
00:42:11,335 --> 00:42:17,055
Speaker 5: by the Disputes Tribunal which is the new name not

753
00:42:17,175 --> 00:42:20,495
Speaker 5: so new now for what used to be called the

754
00:42:20,575 --> 00:42:26,095
Speaker 5: Small Claims Court, And I would guess would it be

755
00:42:26,215 --> 00:42:29,415
Speaker 5: half of all of the claims would probably be related

756
00:42:29,775 --> 00:42:32,855
Speaker 5: to building and construction in some ways. We did an

757
00:42:32,895 --> 00:42:36,015
Speaker 5: interview with the chief referee one time, it'd be time

758
00:42:36,095 --> 00:42:39,335
Speaker 5: to revisit that. And yes, I know I've talked a

759
00:42:39,455 --> 00:42:42,535
Speaker 5: bit about getting different people to come in for interviews,

760
00:42:42,615 --> 00:42:45,695
Speaker 5: and I'm just lining up one. We had a discussion

761
00:42:45,775 --> 00:42:49,535
Speaker 5: last week around a caller who suggested that what they

762
00:42:49,615 --> 00:42:52,855
Speaker 5: did was because they didn't want to be using electricity

763
00:42:52,975 --> 00:42:55,015
Speaker 5: to heat their hot water while they weren't using the

764
00:42:55,055 --> 00:42:59,815
Speaker 5: hot water used to or does turn off the electricity

765
00:42:59,855 --> 00:43:02,295
Speaker 5: to switch off the hot water cylinder and switch it

766
00:43:02,455 --> 00:43:05,175
Speaker 5: back on again later on, and they felt that they

767
00:43:05,255 --> 00:43:07,895
Speaker 5: were doing that ordered to save money. There's a couple

768
00:43:07,895 --> 00:43:11,175
Speaker 5: of health issues there around Legenaire's disease or Legionella rather,

769
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Speaker 5: But also is that actually efficient in terms of how

770
00:43:16,215 --> 00:43:20,015
Speaker 5: much energy you then require to raise the temperature back

771
00:43:20,095 --> 00:43:22,815
Speaker 5: up to sixty degrees or sixty five degrees in the cylinder,

772
00:43:24,455 --> 00:43:26,815
Speaker 5: and whether or not it's a sort of false economy.

773
00:43:27,415 --> 00:43:29,175
Speaker 5: So I am going to be talking with someone probably

774
00:43:29,215 --> 00:43:32,015
Speaker 5: from ECA around that and next week on the show.

775
00:43:32,175 --> 00:43:36,255
Speaker 5: Actually Ralph joined us earlier this year, late last year.

776
00:43:36,775 --> 00:43:42,575
Speaker 5: Ralph from Concrete and Z a fantastic knowledge and passion

777
00:43:42,695 --> 00:43:45,975
Speaker 5: for concrete and so anyway, I've got Ralph coming back

778
00:43:46,015 --> 00:43:47,375
Speaker 5: on the show next week and we might be able

779
00:43:47,375 --> 00:43:49,495
Speaker 5: to do a couple of questions text questions as well.

780
00:43:50,175 --> 00:43:52,335
Speaker 5: But what we do want to talk about specifically is

781
00:43:52,855 --> 00:43:56,215
Speaker 5: the way in which the way that concrete is manufactured

782
00:43:57,095 --> 00:44:02,015
Speaker 5: is less carbon intensive today than it was before and

783
00:44:02,255 --> 00:44:04,575
Speaker 5: why that is. So we'll be talking with Ralph Cassel

784
00:44:04,655 --> 00:44:07,655
Speaker 5: from Concrete and Z on the show next week as well.

785
00:44:08,375 --> 00:44:11,055
Speaker 5: Had some very good and useful texts, Thank you very

786
00:44:11,135 --> 00:44:13,415
Speaker 5: much to those of texts through with regard to the

787
00:44:13,815 --> 00:44:16,215
Speaker 5: washing machine, and we might be talking about that in

788
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Speaker 5: a minute. Hey, this text to Bentley Plumber. I think Bentley,

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Speaker 5: I recall if the washing machine is a front loader,

790
00:44:23,655 --> 00:44:26,815
Speaker 5: the waste outlet hose does have an anti siphon loop

791
00:44:26,895 --> 00:44:29,215
Speaker 5: e E. The hose goes up and over before it

792
00:44:29,295 --> 00:44:32,615
Speaker 5: goes down into the waste pipe. In certain conditions, it's

793
00:44:32,695 --> 00:44:36,375
Speaker 5: sucking water up. So is that a case because the

794
00:44:36,935 --> 00:44:40,775
Speaker 5: outlet for both a front loader and a conventional top

795
00:44:40,855 --> 00:44:43,695
Speaker 5: loader will be at the bottom of the machine because

796
00:44:43,775 --> 00:44:46,575
Speaker 5: that's where the water is, and then the water gets

797
00:44:46,615 --> 00:44:51,495
Speaker 5: pumped out of there, up the hose and into the outlet,

798
00:44:51,695 --> 00:44:54,575
Speaker 5: which is typically like a little elbow. So that comes

799
00:44:54,615 --> 00:45:00,615
Speaker 5: off your waist underneath the adjacent fitting. So often in

800
00:45:00,695 --> 00:45:04,455
Speaker 5: a laundry you've obviously got the laundry tub basin, and

801
00:45:04,575 --> 00:45:07,255
Speaker 5: then next to it is the machine. And that pipe

802
00:45:07,295 --> 00:45:10,175
Speaker 5: that comes out of the bottom of the washing machine

803
00:45:10,535 --> 00:45:13,135
Speaker 5: has to go up I think it's a minimum of

804
00:45:13,135 --> 00:45:16,695
Speaker 5: about eight hundred millimeters before going in and dropping down

805
00:45:16,975 --> 00:45:20,495
Speaker 5: into your would be forty mili pipe or so that's

806
00:45:20,535 --> 00:45:27,055
Speaker 5: connected to your wastewater system. But I'm just looking at

807
00:45:27,095 --> 00:45:30,095
Speaker 5: Bentley's text going it's an anti siphon loop. Yes, but

808
00:45:30,255 --> 00:45:32,815
Speaker 5: that's that loop is created by the person that does

809
00:45:32,895 --> 00:45:36,335
Speaker 5: the install because for it, for whatever reason, if the

810
00:45:36,895 --> 00:45:41,015
Speaker 5: connection to the waste water was low, that they hadn't

811
00:45:41,055 --> 00:45:44,015
Speaker 5: set it up properly, and you just plug it into there,

812
00:45:44,415 --> 00:45:47,655
Speaker 5: you won't create the anti siphon loop because you haven't

813
00:45:47,655 --> 00:45:49,495
Speaker 5: gone up high enough in order for it to drop

814
00:45:49,535 --> 00:45:53,495
Speaker 5: down and not be siphoning water back. Anyway, there you go.

815
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Speaker 5: That's something you might have learned today about washing machines.

816
00:45:56,615 --> 00:46:01,335
Speaker 5: Allan good morning to you, good morning, and to you too,

817
00:46:02,695 --> 00:46:04,935
Speaker 5: this mysterious ever still in washing machine.

818
00:46:05,015 --> 00:46:09,455
Speaker 4: Yes, has the washing machine got an economy setting a

819
00:46:09,575 --> 00:46:14,375
Speaker 4: reservoir built in where it can store water for future use.

820
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Speaker 4: The reason I'm asking this is that when she went

821
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Speaker 4: away for three.

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Speaker 7: Days, right the water, the water only came up to

823
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Speaker 7: the rim.

824
00:46:22,855 --> 00:46:25,815
Speaker 4: Which suggested to me there was not an endless supply

825
00:46:25,935 --> 00:46:28,255
Speaker 4: of water, else she would have come home and put

826
00:46:28,255 --> 00:46:28,935
Speaker 4: a gun bo it's on.

827
00:46:30,535 --> 00:46:33,455
Speaker 5: Or because you have to take a detective like approach

828
00:46:33,495 --> 00:46:35,735
Speaker 5: to this, isn't it you go? Or it might be

829
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Speaker 5: that if she had come home four days after leaving

830
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Speaker 5: the house, there would have been water on the floor,

831
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Speaker 5: but by coming home on the third day, it's kind

832
00:46:44,135 --> 00:46:47,775
Speaker 5: of biblical the water sitting threshold.

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Speaker 13: That's right.

834
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Speaker 4: For your detective story. You have to be appraised of

835
00:46:51,455 --> 00:46:53,575
Speaker 4: all the facts, the fact size she went away for

836
00:46:53,695 --> 00:46:55,895
Speaker 4: three days, Yes, and when she came back the water

837
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Speaker 4: was up to the room.

838
00:46:57,215 --> 00:46:57,375
Speaker 5: Yes.

839
00:46:58,775 --> 00:47:01,135
Speaker 4: Okay, So we can't can't We can't postulate that there

840
00:47:01,215 --> 00:47:03,335
Speaker 4: might have been a fourth day. There wasn't a fourth day,

841
00:47:03,575 --> 00:47:07,175
Speaker 4: but there was a limited supply of water. Yes, it

842
00:47:07,295 --> 00:47:11,015
Speaker 4: wasn't endless flowing, it wasn't continually dripping. It had used

843
00:47:11,095 --> 00:47:13,415
Speaker 4: up all the water that had available and stopped at

844
00:47:13,455 --> 00:47:13,735
Speaker 4: the room.

845
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Speaker 5: Well, that's an assumption. Because you're we're focusing on the

846
00:47:17,255 --> 00:47:22,335
Speaker 5: third day if it is quite possible. Yeah, I knew

847
00:47:22,335 --> 00:47:24,975
Speaker 5: what you're saying. I'm just enjoying the semantics of this.

848
00:47:25,215 --> 00:47:31,295
Speaker 5: But okay, I'm not sure that washing machines do hold

849
00:47:31,335 --> 00:47:34,335
Speaker 5: a reservoir. I think even on an eco setting, the

850
00:47:34,415 --> 00:47:36,975
Speaker 5: ECO setting, I did the washing the other day, you know,

851
00:47:37,055 --> 00:47:41,015
Speaker 5: and to be fair, it was my sweaty, dirty clothes,

852
00:47:41,095 --> 00:47:43,535
Speaker 5: and so once I'd finished for the day, I threw

853
00:47:43,655 --> 00:47:45,935
Speaker 5: my shorts and a T shirt and some grotty socks

854
00:47:46,415 --> 00:47:50,215
Speaker 5: into the washing machine, did a quick wash and set

855
00:47:50,295 --> 00:47:54,415
Speaker 5: the wash level at low, because that's all I needed

856
00:47:54,815 --> 00:47:57,815
Speaker 5: to do that job. But then it will draw from

857
00:47:57,895 --> 00:48:01,135
Speaker 5: the main supply to get a low level, rather than

858
00:48:01,255 --> 00:48:04,815
Speaker 5: somehow drawing from inside the appliance itself.

859
00:48:06,415 --> 00:48:09,975
Speaker 4: Setting is a manual setting that the operator truss or stills.

860
00:48:11,055 --> 00:48:11,655
Speaker 5: Yes, that's right.

861
00:48:11,735 --> 00:48:12,375
Speaker 4: What happens to that?

862
00:48:12,775 --> 00:48:13,335
Speaker 7: What does that do?

863
00:48:13,455 --> 00:48:13,615
Speaker 3: I mean?

864
00:48:13,655 --> 00:48:16,255
Speaker 4: Does it reserve water or does it lose less water?

865
00:48:16,335 --> 00:48:18,615
Speaker 4: Does it use the same water twice? How does that work?

866
00:48:18,695 --> 00:48:18,735
Speaker 7: No?

867
00:48:18,855 --> 00:48:20,975
Speaker 5: It just uses that amount of water, so it just

868
00:48:21,055 --> 00:48:23,775
Speaker 5: goes right. I know that the capacity of the bowl

869
00:48:23,895 --> 00:48:26,615
Speaker 5: is I don't know what would it be. It would

870
00:48:26,615 --> 00:48:29,615
Speaker 5: be sixty or seventy liters, So maybe a low settings.

871
00:48:30,015 --> 00:48:32,295
Speaker 4: You've already chosen the low setting. You've already chosen the

872
00:48:32,375 --> 00:48:34,895
Speaker 4: low setting, So you wouldn't choose the economy setting as well,

873
00:48:34,895 --> 00:48:35,175
Speaker 4: would you.

874
00:48:36,455 --> 00:48:40,135
Speaker 5: No, that's right, but I don't. I don't know that

875
00:48:40,255 --> 00:48:42,415
Speaker 5: I've ever encountered a washing machine that has a tank

876
00:48:42,495 --> 00:48:43,655
Speaker 5: in it that reserves water.

877
00:48:44,855 --> 00:48:46,615
Speaker 4: Well, I haven't ei of it that. I'm not very

878
00:48:46,695 --> 00:48:48,855
Speaker 4: familiar with the washing machines. It's not my forte.

879
00:48:49,775 --> 00:48:52,655
Speaker 5: I think, on the balance of probabilities, there is no

880
00:48:52,775 --> 00:48:55,255
Speaker 5: such thing, in which case what we've got is water

881
00:48:55,335 --> 00:49:01,775
Speaker 5: coming into the machine from a source potentially siphoning, because

882
00:49:01,815 --> 00:49:07,615
Speaker 5: that that's actually quite that's not uncommon, and I suppose

883
00:49:07,695 --> 00:49:10,775
Speaker 5: unless you've been in the habit of siphoning petrol outter

884
00:49:10,855 --> 00:49:14,535
Speaker 5: cars as a young fella, people don't always understand how

885
00:49:14,615 --> 00:49:17,695
Speaker 5: that works. And so there's a these very strict controls

886
00:49:17,815 --> 00:49:22,095
Speaker 5: during a final inspection of bathrooms to ensure that there's

887
00:49:22,255 --> 00:49:26,535
Speaker 5: either a backflow prevention device that's fitted to the shower.

888
00:49:26,855 --> 00:49:30,175
Speaker 5: So if you've got a shower with an adjustable and

889
00:49:30,695 --> 00:49:33,655
Speaker 5: flexible handle, right, so you've got a hose fitting that

890
00:49:33,815 --> 00:49:37,015
Speaker 5: goes up to on a rail. They make sure that

891
00:49:37,255 --> 00:49:40,575
Speaker 5: either that can't touch the ground when if it happens

892
00:49:40,655 --> 00:49:45,175
Speaker 5: to be left at the bottom of the shower tray,

893
00:49:45,695 --> 00:49:48,655
Speaker 5: or that it has a backflow prevention device so that

894
00:49:48,775 --> 00:49:54,335
Speaker 5: it can't siphon foul water out of a basin and

895
00:49:54,535 --> 00:49:57,455
Speaker 5: back into the main supply. But I guess unless you've

896
00:49:57,495 --> 00:50:00,975
Speaker 5: actually played around with the idea of siphoning, you might

897
00:50:01,055 --> 00:50:01,655
Speaker 5: not understand this.

898
00:50:03,215 --> 00:50:05,295
Speaker 4: If you have your garden hose into a water room,

899
00:50:05,615 --> 00:50:07,095
Speaker 4: en turn it off.

900
00:50:07,095 --> 00:50:14,495
Speaker 5: The tax Yes, back to the precisely, yes, precisely that

901
00:50:15,695 --> 00:50:18,175
Speaker 5: I have very much enjoyed talking with you, Ellen, Thank

902
00:50:18,175 --> 00:50:20,735
Speaker 5: you very much for that eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

903
00:50:20,815 --> 00:50:24,175
Speaker 5: If you've got a question, give us a call on

904
00:50:24,455 --> 00:50:27,775
Speaker 5: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Sean, there is no storage

905
00:50:27,775 --> 00:50:30,415
Speaker 5: outside of the drum of a washing machine. I thought

906
00:50:30,455 --> 00:50:32,175
Speaker 5: as much, so thank you very much for that, Shawn.

907
00:50:33,495 --> 00:50:35,215
Speaker 5: A couple of other texts that have come in the

908
00:50:35,335 --> 00:50:38,175
Speaker 5: lines are free right now, so call eight hundred eighty

909
00:50:38,295 --> 00:50:42,895
Speaker 5: ten eighty. In the meantime, Pete, can a fifteen year

910
00:50:42,935 --> 00:50:45,295
Speaker 5: old shower that is at the point where some of

911
00:50:45,375 --> 00:50:49,455
Speaker 5: that shiny glaze is wearing off the hardy cement boards

912
00:50:49,855 --> 00:50:52,375
Speaker 5: on the wall be covered with tiles thanks from Lou.

913
00:50:53,695 --> 00:50:57,415
Speaker 5: The issue will be about adhesion, and not necessarily adhesion

914
00:50:57,495 --> 00:51:01,135
Speaker 5: of the tile to the fiber cement sheet, but by

915
00:51:01,215 --> 00:51:03,815
Speaker 5: adding the weight of the tiles to the fiber cement sheet.

916
00:51:05,295 --> 00:51:07,455
Speaker 5: And you're not exact, I actually sure about how the

917
00:51:07,535 --> 00:51:12,215
Speaker 5: fiber cement sheet is attached to the substrate. I probably

918
00:51:12,295 --> 00:51:16,095
Speaker 5: plaster border, It might be direct fixed to the back.

919
00:51:16,735 --> 00:51:19,495
Speaker 5: Then you kind of go, well, okay, so I add

920
00:51:19,735 --> 00:51:22,495
Speaker 5: the weight of the tiles, which might be ten to

921
00:51:22,535 --> 00:51:26,655
Speaker 5: fifteen kilos per square meter, onto that. What's to stop

922
00:51:26,775 --> 00:51:30,055
Speaker 5: the hardies the fiber cement sheet, the hardy glaze from

923
00:51:30,175 --> 00:51:32,535
Speaker 5: just peeling off the wall. That would be the issue there.

924
00:51:35,255 --> 00:51:37,335
Speaker 5: I suppose what you could do, if you really wanted

925
00:51:37,375 --> 00:51:41,175
Speaker 5: to do it, you could find out where the fixings are,

926
00:51:41,255 --> 00:51:44,615
Speaker 5: where the studs and knogs are behind the fiber cement sheet,

927
00:51:46,695 --> 00:51:51,455
Speaker 5: screw through. I'm almost hesitant to offer up the suggestion

928
00:51:51,975 --> 00:51:54,695
Speaker 5: screw straight through, so you know you've got mechanical fixing

929
00:51:54,935 --> 00:51:59,815
Speaker 5: from the substraight to the studs behind it, and then

930
00:52:00,455 --> 00:52:04,695
Speaker 5: waterproof membrane over that, and then adhere your tiles to

931
00:52:04,895 --> 00:52:07,295
Speaker 5: that as long as you took off enough of the

932
00:52:07,375 --> 00:52:10,535
Speaker 5: glaze to get the waterproofing membrane to it here because

933
00:52:10,575 --> 00:52:13,775
Speaker 5: you don't want to get water through those mechanical fixings.

934
00:52:14,375 --> 00:52:16,295
Speaker 5: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

935
00:52:16,575 --> 00:52:17,975
Speaker 5: number to call. I think if you're didn't do that

936
00:52:18,055 --> 00:52:19,695
Speaker 5: much work, you just rip the hardy glaze out and

937
00:52:19,735 --> 00:52:29,975
Speaker 5: tile the wall. And an earlier texter it was about

938
00:52:30,055 --> 00:52:32,855
Speaker 5: whether or not waterproofing are here we go internal waterproofing

939
00:52:32,935 --> 00:52:36,535
Speaker 5: and tiling should be restricted building work, Chris, I wouldn't

940
00:52:36,575 --> 00:52:40,455
Speaker 5: disagree with you. I think internal waterproofing it's a gap

941
00:52:40,535 --> 00:52:44,335
Speaker 5: in our LBP system at the moment, and I think

942
00:52:44,415 --> 00:52:46,935
Speaker 5: it's being addressed. I think that this is coming, which

943
00:52:46,975 --> 00:52:50,415
Speaker 5: I think will be a really, really good thing. This

944
00:52:50,455 --> 00:52:52,815
Speaker 5: is an interesting one too morning. My nineteenth thirty's house

945
00:52:52,855 --> 00:52:56,095
Speaker 5: with a brick foundation weatherboard clad has had a number

946
00:52:56,135 --> 00:52:59,215
Speaker 5: of yaka stamps. At first, I was thinking yakers. What

947
00:52:59,295 --> 00:53:02,695
Speaker 5: are yakers? But it's not as yockers. Stumps push part

948
00:53:02,815 --> 00:53:05,775
Speaker 5: of the brick inwards. I'm removing the stumps. What type

949
00:53:05,815 --> 00:53:09,015
Speaker 5: of trades person should I get to fix the brick foundation?

950
00:53:11,855 --> 00:53:17,135
Speaker 5: Depending on how extensive the damage is. Part of the

951
00:53:17,255 --> 00:53:21,535
Speaker 5: concern is that if it's a nineteen thirty's house. The brick,

952
00:53:22,695 --> 00:53:26,175
Speaker 5: the brick ring wall is actually part of your foundations.

953
00:53:26,575 --> 00:53:28,495
Speaker 5: So if you're thinking I'm going to knock out some

954
00:53:28,575 --> 00:53:32,415
Speaker 5: of those bricks and straighten them up or relay them straight,

955
00:53:33,655 --> 00:53:37,135
Speaker 5: then what's holding up your house basically, So you may

956
00:53:37,255 --> 00:53:41,735
Speaker 5: need to get an LBP carpenter LBP builder to come

957
00:53:42,175 --> 00:53:44,375
Speaker 5: look at it, determine whether or not there needs to

958
00:53:44,535 --> 00:53:49,455
Speaker 5: be some propping and shoring of your foundations. Then you

959
00:53:49,575 --> 00:53:51,775
Speaker 5: can safely remove the bricks and then you can have

960
00:53:51,935 --> 00:53:56,695
Speaker 5: them reinstated. But I certainly wouldn't just Russian and start

961
00:53:56,775 --> 00:54:00,375
Speaker 5: pulling the bricks out around that perimeter. A couple more

962
00:54:00,415 --> 00:54:02,095
Speaker 5: texts I'll try to get to in just a moment

963
00:54:02,575 --> 00:54:04,055
Speaker 5: right now, we'll take a short break and then we'll

964
00:54:04,055 --> 00:54:06,095
Speaker 5: be talking with June straight after the BREK.

965
00:54:06,335 --> 00:54:12,135
Speaker 1: Measure twice call once on eighty The Resident Builder with

966
00:54:12,335 --> 00:54:16,335
Speaker 1: Peter Wolfcamp and Independent Building supplies the future of Kiwi

967
00:54:16,495 --> 00:54:18,575
Speaker 1: Building Today News Talks there Be.

968
00:54:20,255 --> 00:54:24,215
Speaker 5: Radio. Another solution for the hardy glaze, says Owen, regularly

969
00:54:24,295 --> 00:54:31,015
Speaker 5: contributed to the show, is to use vinyl floor covering

970
00:54:31,095 --> 00:54:40,295
Speaker 5: onto it. You know what, it's probably quite durable. It's

971
00:54:40,375 --> 00:54:42,335
Speaker 5: interesting to see vinyl making a bit of a comeback.

972
00:54:43,215 --> 00:54:45,255
Speaker 5: I think they've changed the name. They've made a flash

973
00:54:45,335 --> 00:54:48,055
Speaker 5: now mammoleum. But I've seen it in a number of

974
00:54:48,135 --> 00:54:53,495
Speaker 5: projects recently, and in the right setting, like most things awesome.

975
00:54:53,935 --> 00:54:58,615
Speaker 5: Someone's also asked me if I know any were you

976
00:54:58,695 --> 00:55:03,215
Speaker 5: describing it as fake shist, Pete. Have you come across

977
00:55:03,215 --> 00:55:05,535
Speaker 5: an inside shist fake wall that looks great and can

978
00:55:05,615 --> 00:55:10,375
Speaker 5: be done by d thanks I personally, I haven't.

979
00:55:11,135 --> 00:55:11,335
Speaker 7: I know.

980
00:55:12,335 --> 00:55:13,975
Speaker 5: A couple of years ago we did a project and

981
00:55:14,175 --> 00:55:18,575
Speaker 5: had what looked like brick cladding and then was painted

982
00:55:18,615 --> 00:55:21,735
Speaker 5: that actually looked really, really good. But in terms of

983
00:55:22,135 --> 00:55:28,335
Speaker 5: an artificial I think artificials more a better phrase than

984
00:55:28,415 --> 00:55:33,175
Speaker 5: fake artificial. Just I'm not absolutely familiar with that. Can

985
00:55:33,215 --> 00:55:35,215
Speaker 5: I drill through my footing for a new water main?

986
00:55:35,415 --> 00:55:40,415
Speaker 5: Says the texter. Yes, you probably can, but I would

987
00:55:40,455 --> 00:55:43,095
Speaker 5: either drill exactly through the middle or as close to

988
00:55:43,175 --> 00:55:50,735
Speaker 5: the middle as possible, or between the Your foundation is

989
00:55:50,735 --> 00:55:54,175
Speaker 5: probably supporting some blockwork, so at that junction between the

990
00:55:54,255 --> 00:55:58,255
Speaker 5: blockwork and the foundation, you could drill through there or

991
00:55:58,335 --> 00:56:01,095
Speaker 5: through the middle seems to be the best advice. Good

992
00:56:01,175 --> 00:56:05,295
Speaker 5: luck with that. June A very good morning to you, Oh, sir.

993
00:56:05,295 --> 00:56:05,655
Speaker 11: Thank you.

994
00:56:06,735 --> 00:56:07,615
Speaker 13: I have a problem.

995
00:56:07,695 --> 00:56:11,495
Speaker 16: I've got a broken ankle and I have two steps

996
00:56:11,695 --> 00:56:16,895
Speaker 16: to get down to the shower and my wardrobe, I wondered,

997
00:56:17,495 --> 00:56:18,655
Speaker 16: and it's not a lot of room.

998
00:56:19,215 --> 00:56:19,895
Speaker 17: I thought if I.

999
00:56:19,975 --> 00:56:23,455
Speaker 16: Had a ramp, it would revolution in my life. At

1000
00:56:23,495 --> 00:56:29,495
Speaker 16: the moment, I wondered, would you recommend a really good

1001
00:56:30,015 --> 00:56:32,015
Speaker 16: man who could perhaps come in and look.

1002
00:56:31,895 --> 00:56:32,695
Speaker 13: At my problem.

1003
00:56:33,895 --> 00:56:36,535
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that I can, because I don't know

1004
00:56:36,575 --> 00:56:38,975
Speaker 5: where you are, and so on, And there would be

1005
00:56:39,055 --> 00:56:43,295
Speaker 5: a little bit because again to be fair, I built

1006
00:56:43,495 --> 00:56:46,775
Speaker 5: a ramp very similar to that for a mate who

1007
00:56:47,615 --> 00:56:50,335
Speaker 5: also I think, broke his ankle a couple of months ago.

1008
00:56:51,055 --> 00:56:53,495
Speaker 5: But it was just simply to help with a transition

1009
00:56:53,735 --> 00:56:57,335
Speaker 5: from the pathway to the veranda to the door threshold.

1010
00:56:57,775 --> 00:57:00,375
Speaker 5: And each of those rises was probably only about one

1011
00:57:00,415 --> 00:57:03,775
Speaker 5: hundred and twenty mili. The concern that I would have

1012
00:57:04,175 --> 00:57:06,855
Speaker 5: is that, while I appreciate you've got two steps now,

1013
00:57:06,895 --> 00:57:10,215
Speaker 5: they're going to be a minimum of about one hundred

1014
00:57:10,215 --> 00:57:13,015
Speaker 5: and fifty millimeters high each of them, so you're talking

1015
00:57:13,055 --> 00:57:16,295
Speaker 5: about a three hundred millimeters rise. If you were to

1016
00:57:16,415 --> 00:57:19,495
Speaker 5: do a ramp that was actually safe, you might find

1017
00:57:19,535 --> 00:57:21,975
Speaker 5: that the ramp would extend like two two and a

1018
00:57:22,015 --> 00:57:25,735
Speaker 5: half meters long, because there's like there's a very specific

1019
00:57:26,415 --> 00:57:30,655
Speaker 5: requirement in the building code around accessibility ramps, right, and

1020
00:57:30,695 --> 00:57:33,015
Speaker 5: there's a certain pitch that they have to be at,

1021
00:57:33,535 --> 00:57:35,895
Speaker 5: and the reason being that if they're steeper than that,

1022
00:57:36,055 --> 00:57:39,535
Speaker 5: then they're actually more hazardous than a step. Right. So yeah,

1023
00:57:39,735 --> 00:57:42,375
Speaker 5: then that's what I would be considered.

1024
00:57:43,015 --> 00:57:45,575
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, my husband's afraid of that too. My son

1025
00:57:45,975 --> 00:57:50,335
Speaker 16: spoke about going to somewhere like Bummings and already made.

1026
00:57:50,375 --> 00:57:52,295
Speaker 17: But that doesn't sound tis, No, I don't.

1027
00:57:52,375 --> 00:57:54,695
Speaker 5: I don't think so. I mean, look if because it

1028
00:57:55,175 --> 00:57:57,975
Speaker 5: will obviously just be temporary, won't it. Once your ankle

1029
00:57:58,175 --> 00:58:00,255
Speaker 5: is healed, it'll be much easier for you.

1030
00:58:01,215 --> 00:58:07,615
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's been a nightmare. Here's looking after me and

1031
00:58:07,775 --> 00:58:10,895
Speaker 16: he's ninety three, so this would have been a big help.

1032
00:58:12,975 --> 00:58:16,015
Speaker 5: Well, we'll just have to sloggle at Yeah, look, I look,

1033
00:58:16,175 --> 00:58:18,175
Speaker 5: it might be possible to do, but you'd need to

1034
00:58:18,255 --> 00:58:21,135
Speaker 5: look at it. You'd need and also you know, I'm

1035
00:58:21,175 --> 00:58:23,575
Speaker 5: guessing that where those two steps are there's a wall

1036
00:58:23,615 --> 00:58:26,135
Speaker 5: on either side. But then what happens on the downward

1037
00:58:26,215 --> 00:58:29,215
Speaker 5: slope of that? How can you do you then end

1038
00:58:29,295 --> 00:58:35,055
Speaker 5: up creating do you need handrails on both sides? Et cetera,

1039
00:58:35,095 --> 00:58:37,935
Speaker 5: et cetera. So the other thing is my understanding is

1040
00:58:38,015 --> 00:58:41,495
Speaker 5: that as part of your rehabilitation, you could go to

1041
00:58:41,615 --> 00:58:45,855
Speaker 5: ACC and get some advice for that, because obviously you're

1042
00:58:45,895 --> 00:58:48,855
Speaker 5: in a situation where you need to remain mobile because

1043
00:58:48,895 --> 00:58:51,695
Speaker 5: your husband can support you to some degree, but not

1044
00:58:53,415 --> 00:58:54,735
Speaker 5: that so I would actually.

1045
00:58:54,535 --> 00:58:59,255
Speaker 16: Suggest they did come a few days ago and they

1046
00:58:59,375 --> 00:59:02,735
Speaker 16: put a sort of contraption a bath that I have

1047
00:59:02,855 --> 00:59:06,055
Speaker 16: to eat myself on and cover the leg and flowing over,

1048
00:59:06,575 --> 00:59:08,655
Speaker 16: and the lady who came to help me, we both

1049
00:59:08,735 --> 00:59:09,215
Speaker 16: looked at it.

1050
00:59:09,215 --> 00:59:14,055
Speaker 18: And said, no, okay, right, look, it's not your problem.

1051
00:59:14,255 --> 00:59:16,815
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I would love to help if I could,

1052
00:59:16,895 --> 00:59:20,135
Speaker 5: but occupational therapist or ACC and maybe they just need

1053
00:59:20,215 --> 00:59:24,215
Speaker 5: to come back with another solution. But what I hope

1054
00:59:24,295 --> 00:59:26,375
Speaker 5: is that you have a speedy recovery and that you're

1055
00:59:26,415 --> 00:59:28,175
Speaker 5: able to deal with the stairs in the future.

1056
00:59:28,695 --> 00:59:29,975
Speaker 4: Yes, here's the wardrobe.

1057
00:59:30,015 --> 00:59:31,975
Speaker 16: Worries me because my husband brings me the.

1058
00:59:32,015 --> 00:59:36,295
Speaker 5: Clothes, right, yeah, of course, and then everyone's navigating that.

1059
00:59:37,815 --> 00:59:39,295
Speaker 16: Yeah, no, well thank you.

1060
00:59:39,695 --> 00:59:41,455
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I'm sorry I can't be more helpful, but

1061
00:59:41,535 --> 00:59:44,255
Speaker 5: hopefully there's some ideas there. Nice to chat with you,

1062
00:59:44,935 --> 00:59:48,655
Speaker 5: take care all the best due and thanks to the

1063
00:59:48,695 --> 00:59:51,335
Speaker 5: texts that have come through to talk to acc which

1064
00:59:51,375 --> 00:59:54,655
Speaker 5: I think she's done. Talk to an occupational therapist as well.

1065
00:59:57,375 --> 00:59:58,975
Speaker 5: This is a quick texture. I'm looking at buying a

1066
00:59:59,015 --> 01:00:02,655
Speaker 5: two bedroom nineteen eighties brick and tile house with internal guttering.

1067
01:00:03,015 --> 01:00:04,815
Speaker 5: What's the life span of the guttering? Would it be

1068
01:00:04,855 --> 01:00:07,455
Speaker 5: best to change to external guttering? So I think what

1069
01:00:07,575 --> 01:00:11,135
Speaker 5: you're describing is not I wouldn't call this internal guttering.

1070
01:00:11,215 --> 01:00:15,015
Speaker 5: It's concealed spouting because it runs around the perimeter of

1071
01:00:15,055 --> 01:00:17,655
Speaker 5: the building and what you'll see is a metal facier

1072
01:00:18,015 --> 01:00:21,975
Speaker 5: and tucktan behind there will be the spouting. I think

1073
01:00:22,015 --> 01:00:25,335
Speaker 5: if it's nineteen eighties, it's probably at end of life now.

1074
01:00:26,415 --> 01:00:30,295
Speaker 5: These sorts of things have been an issue for probably

1075
01:00:30,415 --> 01:00:33,135
Speaker 5: twenty years, so not long after they were established really.

1076
01:00:34,255 --> 01:00:37,055
Speaker 5: And there's a couple of companies. So there's rigs. If

1077
01:00:37,095 --> 01:00:41,375
Speaker 5: there's Google rigs, that's a system for doing it. Continuous

1078
01:00:41,375 --> 01:00:46,735
Speaker 5: spouting have one, and custom Flashings and face shit have

1079
01:00:46,935 --> 01:00:49,375
Speaker 5: one as well. So those three companies I'm aware of,

1080
01:00:49,535 --> 01:00:52,855
Speaker 5: they have systems that will allow you to simply replace

1081
01:00:52,975 --> 01:00:55,735
Speaker 5: or they'll come and replace it for you. So good

1082
01:00:55,815 --> 01:00:58,215
Speaker 5: luck with that though, Sean, greetings to you.

1083
01:00:59,375 --> 01:01:00,215
Speaker 10: Good morning, Pete.

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01:01:00,215 --> 01:01:01,375
Speaker 3: How were you very well?

1085
01:01:02,055 --> 01:01:05,975
Speaker 10: Yes, I'm having a crack at doing a bit of rooting,

1086
01:01:06,375 --> 01:01:11,295
Speaker 10: ye replacing a section on my roof coming down to

1087
01:01:11,575 --> 01:01:16,055
Speaker 10: a valley and I've deliberately cut all my sheets on

1088
01:01:16,175 --> 01:01:18,655
Speaker 10: one side of the valley a couple of inches too long,

1089
01:01:19,375 --> 01:01:23,255
Speaker 10: laid them down, screwed them down. Yep, with a thought

1090
01:01:23,335 --> 01:01:25,735
Speaker 10: of quick ten minutes with my nibbler and a string

1091
01:01:25,775 --> 01:01:28,455
Speaker 10: line up the valley to cut them straight, and realized

1092
01:01:28,455 --> 01:01:31,695
Speaker 10: I don't have the clearance underneath between the bottom of

1093
01:01:31,735 --> 01:01:34,735
Speaker 10: the valley and underneath the turn to get the nibbler

1094
01:01:34,895 --> 01:01:38,055
Speaker 10: that little stub on the nibbler a yep. Any tips

1095
01:01:38,135 --> 01:01:40,535
Speaker 10: or tricks to cut that night, or do I just

1096
01:01:40,695 --> 01:01:43,455
Speaker 10: have to persevere my hand with the handcutters.

1097
01:01:44,815 --> 01:01:47,935
Speaker 5: I think if you look at roofers and the tools

1098
01:01:47,975 --> 01:01:52,855
Speaker 5: that they use, there's actually shears. It's a specific tool

1099
01:01:54,535 --> 01:01:58,015
Speaker 5: that they use, so roofing shears or metal.

1100
01:01:57,855 --> 01:02:03,095
Speaker 10: Shears, got a set of those, huge amount of getting

1101
01:02:03,135 --> 01:02:03,855
Speaker 10: those in there either.

1102
01:02:03,975 --> 01:02:07,855
Speaker 5: No the battery ones, so this is powered, isn't hand ones?

1103
01:02:09,255 --> 01:02:09,535
Speaker 7: You know?

1104
01:02:09,615 --> 01:02:13,135
Speaker 10: So that's what I mean, I've got and you can't

1105
01:02:13,175 --> 01:02:16,375
Speaker 10: get in there with those seem to struggle get so far,

1106
01:02:16,495 --> 01:02:20,175
Speaker 10: and then after sort of on the down, I'm still

1107
01:02:20,455 --> 01:02:23,295
Speaker 10: still you know, you're probably not even twin more clearance

1108
01:02:23,775 --> 01:02:27,255
Speaker 10: between the underside of the turn and in the valley.

1109
01:02:27,575 --> 01:02:27,775
Speaker 4: Right.

1110
01:02:28,615 --> 01:02:31,775
Speaker 5: Oh, that's interesting because most of the guys that I've seen,

1111
01:02:32,615 --> 01:02:36,535
Speaker 5: I suppose the other way of doing it is, so

1112
01:02:36,735 --> 01:02:39,175
Speaker 5: you've you've laid your sheets, you've left them long, You've

1113
01:02:39,255 --> 01:02:42,335
Speaker 5: chalked a line, so you've got a really nice straight line,

1114
01:02:42,455 --> 01:02:46,255
Speaker 5: which is so important, especially if it's one of those

1115
01:02:46,335 --> 01:02:48,455
Speaker 5: valleys that you see when you approach the house, right,

1116
01:02:50,055 --> 01:02:52,535
Speaker 5: because I've seen a couple where it's it's you know,

1117
01:02:53,455 --> 01:02:56,175
Speaker 5: it's a drunk man staggering, right, it's it's Tiger Woods

1118
01:02:56,495 --> 01:03:01,215
Speaker 5: doing a sobriety test. And so the other option would be,

1119
01:03:02,815 --> 01:03:05,815
Speaker 5: because they're all screwed down, right, as you screw them down,

1120
01:03:06,735 --> 01:03:09,935
Speaker 5: chalk your line and then work away from the top

1121
01:03:09,975 --> 01:03:13,015
Speaker 5: of the bottom, take the sheet off, cut it because

1122
01:03:13,055 --> 01:03:15,135
Speaker 5: then you can hold it up in the air, cut it,

1123
01:03:15,295 --> 01:03:16,935
Speaker 5: lay it to one side, cut the next one, and

1124
01:03:17,015 --> 01:03:18,495
Speaker 5: then just refix the sheets down.

1125
01:03:19,575 --> 01:03:21,575
Speaker 10: Yeah, I was going down that road think I might

1126
01:03:21,615 --> 01:03:22,575
Speaker 10: have to unscrew.

1127
01:03:22,255 --> 01:03:25,415
Speaker 5: The Yeah, I just wonder whether in the you know how,

1128
01:03:25,455 --> 01:03:28,135
Speaker 5: sometimes we spend an awful lot of time and energy

1129
01:03:28,295 --> 01:03:31,975
Speaker 5: thinking of a really clever solution, and then the one

1130
01:03:32,015 --> 01:03:35,215
Speaker 5: that's not so clever but practical, you just get it done, right.

1131
01:03:35,855 --> 01:03:39,255
Speaker 10: Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I know what to do on the

1132
01:03:39,455 --> 01:03:40,815
Speaker 10: on the other side of the ven now too.

1133
01:03:41,095 --> 01:03:43,575
Speaker 5: I'm kind of intrigued because I, in a rush of

1134
01:03:43,615 --> 01:03:45,935
Speaker 5: blood to the head the other day at a trade expo,

1135
01:03:46,175 --> 01:03:49,335
Speaker 5: went and bought myself a set of those roofing shears,

1136
01:03:49,455 --> 01:03:54,055
Speaker 5: right yeah, And one of the things it's an ag one,

1137
01:03:54,975 --> 01:03:56,975
Speaker 5: And one of the things I noticed is that the

1138
01:03:57,135 --> 01:04:01,855
Speaker 5: head is articulating. You can move it. So in this instance,

1139
01:04:01,895 --> 01:04:04,175
Speaker 5: I'm wondering whether when I come to do the valley,

1140
01:04:04,655 --> 01:04:07,015
Speaker 5: I might be able to sort of rote the tool

1141
01:04:07,215 --> 01:04:09,695
Speaker 5: in such a way that the handle and the battery

1142
01:04:10,135 --> 01:04:13,695
Speaker 5: doesn't hit the sheet, meaning that I can't get through

1143
01:04:14,215 --> 01:04:17,935
Speaker 5: those undulations by turning the head to one side and

1144
01:04:18,015 --> 01:04:20,895
Speaker 5: then it's it's up and out of the way. So

1145
01:04:20,895 --> 01:04:22,615
Speaker 5: it depends on the sheer that you've got.

1146
01:04:23,575 --> 01:04:26,855
Speaker 10: Yeah, this is a pretty basic set. Right the neighbor

1147
01:04:26,855 --> 01:04:28,495
Speaker 10: as you walked past the other day when I'm starting.

1148
01:04:28,655 --> 01:04:33,815
Speaker 5: Yeah, awesome, Hey, look it could also be could be

1149
01:04:33,855 --> 01:04:36,975
Speaker 5: the problem. Other solution is just buy more tools, right,

1150
01:04:37,375 --> 01:04:39,375
Speaker 5: and there's never a downside to that.

1151
01:04:40,215 --> 01:04:42,215
Speaker 10: I already did the early morning drive to Bunnings. Yes,

1152
01:04:42,455 --> 01:04:44,975
Speaker 10: get the nibblert talk.

1153
01:04:45,535 --> 01:04:47,095
Speaker 5: The other thing is if you are going to use

1154
01:04:47,175 --> 01:04:49,335
Speaker 5: and the other thing is what you might find going

1155
01:04:49,375 --> 01:04:51,655
Speaker 5: back to using the nibbler, because you've obviously bought one

1156
01:04:51,735 --> 01:04:55,855
Speaker 5: and they are phenomenal little tools, right, is just back

1157
01:04:55,935 --> 01:05:00,055
Speaker 5: off the last couple of rows of screws, slider, piece

1158
01:05:00,095 --> 01:05:02,495
Speaker 5: of timber under a bit of duneage. Get it up

1159
01:05:02,695 --> 01:05:05,095
Speaker 5: because you might only need like five or ten mil. Right,

1160
01:05:05,455 --> 01:05:07,775
Speaker 5: Just allow the sheet flex up a little bit, leave

1161
01:05:07,815 --> 01:05:10,055
Speaker 5: it in place predominantly, and just cut the end of

1162
01:05:10,095 --> 01:05:12,775
Speaker 5: the sheet. The other thing that I can't emphasize this

1163
01:05:13,015 --> 01:05:16,695
Speaker 5: enough is collect up all of the swarf, all of

1164
01:05:16,775 --> 01:05:19,335
Speaker 5: those little half moons that come out of the nibbler,

1165
01:05:20,055 --> 01:05:23,215
Speaker 5: because they will rust. They will show rust within weeks

1166
01:05:23,335 --> 01:05:26,415
Speaker 5: on your roof. So sweep them up, vacuum them up,

1167
01:05:26,735 --> 01:05:29,375
Speaker 5: blow the roof down, get rid of it. Otherwise you'll

1168
01:05:29,375 --> 01:05:29,895
Speaker 5: see the rust.

1169
01:05:30,575 --> 01:05:30,735
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1170
01:05:30,975 --> 01:05:33,495
Speaker 10: I've been very annoyed about that. Yeah, blowing down probably

1171
01:05:33,535 --> 01:05:36,615
Speaker 10: four times a day. Yeah, every time I put some

1172
01:05:36,655 --> 01:05:38,015
Speaker 10: screws and blowing them all away.

1173
01:05:39,655 --> 01:05:41,615
Speaker 5: You kind of the only thing with that is you

1174
01:05:41,695 --> 01:05:44,255
Speaker 5: do wonder whether you know, Okay, so I've blown it down,

1175
01:05:45,175 --> 01:05:47,135
Speaker 5: then where's it gone? You know what I mean?

1176
01:05:48,015 --> 01:05:50,015
Speaker 10: Well, it's all making its way down to my old gutter.

1177
01:05:52,815 --> 01:05:54,295
Speaker 5: That'll be the next job to replace.

1178
01:05:54,335 --> 01:05:55,975
Speaker 10: That's next, that's next time job.

1179
01:05:57,495 --> 01:06:02,055
Speaker 5: Take care up there and be safe. Yeah, as awesome,

1180
01:06:02,255 --> 01:06:05,215
Speaker 5: Well done. You take care and don't be like me

1181
01:06:05,335 --> 01:06:07,895
Speaker 5: because in a rush, I don't know, last year year before,

1182
01:06:09,135 --> 01:06:10,895
Speaker 5: I didn't have the right year, right, I didn't have

1183
01:06:10,935 --> 01:06:12,935
Speaker 5: the tool that I bought the other day at the expo,

1184
01:06:14,975 --> 01:06:17,935
Speaker 5: and so I hacked away a bit of roofing with

1185
01:06:18,175 --> 01:06:20,815
Speaker 5: an angle grinder, which you're not supposed to do, right,

1186
01:06:20,895 --> 01:06:23,575
Speaker 5: because it heats up the edge of the sheet and

1187
01:06:23,655 --> 01:06:26,335
Speaker 5: it causes rust. And it just in this instance, it

1188
01:06:26,415 --> 01:06:29,655
Speaker 5: didn't matter, except what I didn't think about and I

1189
01:06:29,695 --> 01:06:33,895
Speaker 5: should have is what happens to all of that hot grinding, right,

1190
01:06:34,415 --> 01:06:38,535
Speaker 5: And so when about three weeks later, rust started to

1191
01:06:38,615 --> 01:06:42,735
Speaker 5: appear on the timber work adjacent to it, I'm like, well,

1192
01:06:42,815 --> 01:06:46,455
Speaker 5: that's what happened to all of the cuttings it landed

1193
01:06:46,495 --> 01:06:48,295
Speaker 5: on there at rust, so I had to scrape all

1194
01:06:48,335 --> 01:06:50,175
Speaker 5: that back and repaint that as well. So don't do that.

1195
01:06:51,135 --> 01:06:53,775
Speaker 5: Don't be like me in that instance. Used the right

1196
01:06:53,895 --> 01:06:58,815
Speaker 5: tool and getting rid of that swarf is really really important. Anyway,

1197
01:06:58,815 --> 01:07:01,575
Speaker 5: I fixed it. It's okay now seven thirty five. Will

1198
01:07:03,055 --> 01:07:05,135
Speaker 5: actually would do a quick call from Marty and we'll

1199
01:07:05,135 --> 01:07:07,615
Speaker 5: take the break. Marty solution for the steps.

1200
01:07:08,855 --> 01:07:12,855
Speaker 11: Mate, Demi Easter. I've got a wee idea of that

1201
01:07:12,975 --> 01:07:16,255
Speaker 11: young lady having access to the share. A bit tricky

1202
01:07:16,335 --> 01:07:22,095
Speaker 11: at the moment. Sure acc Or wins, but definitely acc

1203
01:07:23,415 --> 01:07:27,175
Speaker 11: My experience as that it's not ideal that they can

1204
01:07:27,255 --> 01:07:30,415
Speaker 11: provide transport in any cost to maybe go to a

1205
01:07:30,575 --> 01:07:33,415
Speaker 11: local area where you could have a shower, for example

1206
01:07:33,615 --> 01:07:36,695
Speaker 11: a swimming poor complex where they'll just close off that

1207
01:07:36,855 --> 01:07:40,295
Speaker 11: we share so you could have the privacy and come home.

1208
01:07:40,375 --> 01:07:43,015
Speaker 11: It's not the same at the home. But if it's

1209
01:07:43,295 --> 01:07:46,215
Speaker 11: everything was to leave, which might be over four or

1210
01:07:46,255 --> 01:07:48,775
Speaker 11: five weeks or two months or whatever, it could be

1211
01:07:48,855 --> 01:07:49,815
Speaker 11: an interim solution.

1212
01:07:51,055 --> 01:07:53,415
Speaker 5: And look, I appreciate the thought, and I guess it

1213
01:07:53,575 --> 01:07:55,775
Speaker 5: is one I suppose with these sorts of things, you

1214
01:07:55,895 --> 01:08:00,855
Speaker 5: start with what is the most effective, least disruptive solution.

1215
01:08:01,215 --> 01:08:04,815
Speaker 5: So doing something at home, you do wonder whether the

1216
01:08:04,855 --> 01:08:07,335
Speaker 5: solution is actually going to be a care that comes

1217
01:08:08,415 --> 01:08:11,855
Speaker 5: and helps with showering for a period of time. I

1218
01:08:11,895 --> 01:08:16,775
Speaker 5: suppose it's the bathroom's down there. That's a little bit trickier, but.

1219
01:08:16,855 --> 01:08:20,415
Speaker 11: Yeah, you're right. I mean it's one of the most

1220
01:08:20,455 --> 01:08:24,175
Speaker 11: private things. Yeah, lives' sothing to go to public pool,

1221
01:08:24,215 --> 01:08:27,575
Speaker 11: but I have none, you know, they capable well, But

1222
01:08:28,215 --> 01:08:30,295
Speaker 11: the ideal thing would be a come.

1223
01:08:30,655 --> 01:08:32,855
Speaker 5: There will be someone who will come and help out

1224
01:08:32,895 --> 01:08:35,255
Speaker 5: with that, for sure. Marty, thanks very much and happy

1225
01:08:35,255 --> 01:08:37,215
Speaker 5: Easter to you too. It is seven thirty six.

1226
01:08:37,335 --> 01:08:40,415
Speaker 1: Will be back after the break begging what they forgot

1227
01:08:40,495 --> 01:08:43,935
Speaker 1: to mention on that YouTube video the resident builder with

1228
01:08:44,175 --> 01:08:48,215
Speaker 1: Peter Wilfcamp and Independent Building Supplies the future of Kiwi

1229
01:08:48,335 --> 01:08:50,415
Speaker 1: Building Today call eight.

1230
01:08:51,815 --> 01:08:52,695
Speaker 3: News Talks there'd be.

1231
01:08:53,135 --> 01:08:57,175
Speaker 5: And she talking about YouTube videos as it happens. I've

1232
01:08:57,575 --> 01:09:00,935
Speaker 5: we've been working with Metro Glass, who do the retro

1233
01:09:01,055 --> 01:09:05,855
Speaker 5: fit double glazing, on a series of videos explaining how

1234
01:09:06,015 --> 01:09:10,375
Speaker 5: double glazing works and a whole bunch of other topics

1235
01:09:10,455 --> 01:09:13,455
Speaker 5: associated with that. So the way in which you orientate

1236
01:09:13,615 --> 01:09:16,295
Speaker 5: the low e glass or the soul again and so on.

1237
01:09:16,775 --> 01:09:18,975
Speaker 5: So if you do want to watch some YouTube videos

1238
01:09:19,015 --> 01:09:22,135
Speaker 5: that actually have some decent information, either go to my

1239
01:09:22,895 --> 01:09:26,775
Speaker 5: Facebook page you'll find some links there, or to my YouTube.

1240
01:09:26,815 --> 01:09:28,695
Speaker 5: So if you just search Peter wolf Camp on YouTube,

1241
01:09:28,735 --> 01:09:31,975
Speaker 5: it should pop up. So it's a little series about

1242
01:09:32,095 --> 01:09:36,455
Speaker 5: smarter glass, better living, that's what it's called. Have a

1243
01:09:36,495 --> 01:09:38,815
Speaker 5: search for that and you'll find that too. Talking about

1244
01:09:38,815 --> 01:09:41,495
Speaker 5: the old YouTube, so you can find that there. The

1245
01:09:41,535 --> 01:09:44,815
Speaker 5: website also is just resident builder dot co dot MZID

1246
01:09:45,815 --> 01:09:49,415
Speaker 5: Radio Judy, good morning, Good morning.

1247
01:09:51,095 --> 01:09:54,815
Speaker 17: I've got two showers and they've got an extractor thing

1248
01:09:54,935 --> 01:09:58,255
Speaker 17: going through the ceiling, and I've noticed that my ceilings

1249
01:09:58,615 --> 01:10:03,935
Speaker 17: had started getting moldy. Now, I had an HRV chet

1250
01:10:04,095 --> 01:10:06,055
Speaker 17: during some service and you got up in the ceiling.

1251
01:10:06,095 --> 01:10:06,215
Speaker 7: Ea.

1252
01:10:07,015 --> 01:10:12,415
Speaker 17: You know those extract defenses. They're not connected up there. Yeah.

1253
01:10:12,495 --> 01:10:14,535
Speaker 17: And now I've got a new roof put on about

1254
01:10:14,615 --> 01:10:19,615
Speaker 17: seven years ago, and I was just wondering if it

1255
01:10:19,695 --> 01:10:25,615
Speaker 17: should have been vented through the roofs when I came

1256
01:10:25,735 --> 01:10:27,495
Speaker 17: and got up there and he said, no, that's not

1257
01:10:27,615 --> 01:10:28,095
Speaker 17: my job.

1258
01:10:29,575 --> 01:10:32,655
Speaker 5: Was there event through the roof prior to the new

1259
01:10:32,775 --> 01:10:33,695
Speaker 5: roof being installed.

1260
01:10:34,455 --> 01:10:35,055
Speaker 17: I don't know.

1261
01:10:36,615 --> 01:10:43,695
Speaker 5: No, okay, I mean this is the classic example of

1262
01:10:45,935 --> 01:10:50,735
Speaker 5: you know, where how do I I'm trying to be kind, right,

1263
01:10:51,015 --> 01:10:55,295
Speaker 5: I'm trying to be not terribly dismissive of whoever installed

1264
01:10:55,335 --> 01:10:57,975
Speaker 5: the vents, But this is the sort of shenanigans that

1265
01:10:58,095 --> 01:11:03,175
Speaker 5: goes on, right, And so people will, you know, seemingly,

1266
01:11:03,295 --> 01:11:05,815
Speaker 5: as a token gesture, go oh, look, I've installed an

1267
01:11:05,815 --> 01:11:08,655
Speaker 5: extractor in the bathroom. And then I've done it and

1268
01:11:08,815 --> 01:11:10,775
Speaker 5: other people do it. You climb up into the roof

1269
01:11:10,815 --> 01:11:13,855
Speaker 5: and you find exactly what we see at your place,

1270
01:11:13,895 --> 01:11:16,975
Speaker 5: which is sure, there's an extractor in the ceiling and

1271
01:11:17,015 --> 01:11:19,535
Speaker 5: there's a fan there, but all it's doing is sucking

1272
01:11:19,655 --> 01:11:23,535
Speaker 5: all of that warm moist air moisture laid in air

1273
01:11:23,815 --> 01:11:28,815
Speaker 5: and pumping it straight into the roof space, which is terrible, right,

1274
01:11:29,735 --> 01:11:33,575
Speaker 5: and so that's going to saturate your insulation. And arguably

1275
01:11:33,655 --> 01:11:35,655
Speaker 5: the fact that you've had a new roof install is

1276
01:11:35,815 --> 01:11:39,175
Speaker 5: possibly making the problem worse because where it was an

1277
01:11:39,175 --> 01:11:41,015
Speaker 5: old roof and maybe it didn't have an underlan and

1278
01:11:41,095 --> 01:11:43,335
Speaker 5: there was more gaps and cracks, you would have more

1279
01:11:43,415 --> 01:11:48,975
Speaker 5: ventilation in that roof space. So thankfully the solution's quite straightforward.

1280
01:11:49,935 --> 01:11:52,535
Speaker 5: What you need to do is maybe you're electrician or

1281
01:11:52,575 --> 01:11:55,775
Speaker 5: maybe a specialist who does extraction to come in and

1282
01:11:56,415 --> 01:12:00,295
Speaker 5: add ducting that will either if it's possible, and in

1283
01:12:00,375 --> 01:12:03,295
Speaker 5: most cases the bathroom's located close to the outside wall.

1284
01:12:04,815 --> 01:12:07,935
Speaker 5: You might have a saft around the outside of your house,

1285
01:12:08,375 --> 01:12:11,255
Speaker 5: in which cases you do have a safit.

1286
01:12:12,015 --> 01:12:13,135
Speaker 9: Ye are large safita?

1287
01:12:13,175 --> 01:12:15,455
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, So as long as there's a decent

1288
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Speaker 5: gap over the top of the top plate where you

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01:12:17,455 --> 01:12:20,295
Speaker 5: can get deducting through without crushing it down. And this

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01:12:20,455 --> 01:12:23,095
Speaker 5: is a common problem as well. So ideally you want

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01:12:23,295 --> 01:12:26,255
Speaker 5: some one hundred and fifty milimeters ducting and you want

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01:12:26,295 --> 01:12:28,735
Speaker 5: that to run to the outside and out through the

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01:12:28,815 --> 01:12:33,535
Speaker 5: safit so that it can vent to the exterior. Now,

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01:12:33,695 --> 01:12:36,655
Speaker 5: in the event that you don't have sufficient space over

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01:12:36,735 --> 01:12:40,455
Speaker 5: the top plate, then the person who does the work

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01:12:40,535 --> 01:12:43,255
Speaker 5: needs to think about how they're going to solve that problem.

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01:12:43,975 --> 01:12:46,615
Speaker 5: I had to do it recently, so I transferred from

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01:12:46,775 --> 01:12:49,895
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty milimeters rounducting to a piece of

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01:12:49,975 --> 01:12:53,215
Speaker 5: rectangular ducting that was about two hundred and twenty by

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01:12:53,375 --> 01:12:56,695
Speaker 5: sixty milimeters, so it has the same volume of air

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01:12:56,815 --> 01:13:00,775
Speaker 5: going through and then into the safit. It makes it

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01:13:00,855 --> 01:13:03,295
Speaker 5: a slightly more complicated job and there's a bit more

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01:13:03,335 --> 01:13:06,215
Speaker 5: time and a bit more cost involved. But the whole

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01:13:06,375 --> 01:13:09,015
Speaker 5: thing with if we're going to have extraction, we've got

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01:13:09,135 --> 01:13:12,695
Speaker 5: to make sure it works properly, so the right size

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01:13:12,735 --> 01:13:15,935
Speaker 5: volume to the outside, so that that would go some

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01:13:16,095 --> 01:13:18,175
Speaker 5: way to solving it. The other thing is, if you're

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01:13:18,215 --> 01:13:22,215
Speaker 5: going to spend some time and money on this, consider

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01:13:22,295 --> 01:13:28,455
Speaker 5: the possibility of introducing a constant flow fan, so actually

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01:13:28,575 --> 01:13:31,655
Speaker 5: replacing the one that you've got with one that has

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01:13:31,855 --> 01:13:37,615
Speaker 5: a humidity sensor attached to them. So simics SIMX have

1312
01:13:37,735 --> 01:13:40,975
Speaker 5: a range of these fans, and what it does is

1313
01:13:41,135 --> 01:13:44,215
Speaker 5: that when there's a lot of moisture in the air,

1314
01:13:44,335 --> 01:13:49,215
Speaker 5: the humidity increases, the fan ramps up its extraction right.

1315
01:13:49,495 --> 01:13:52,615
Speaker 5: It sort of speeds up and draws that air out,

1316
01:13:53,135 --> 01:13:56,175
Speaker 5: and it will only go down to a very low

1317
01:13:56,375 --> 01:14:00,095
Speaker 5: rate once it recognizes that the humidity in the room

1318
01:14:00,335 --> 01:14:02,575
Speaker 5: is below whatever you've set it at. So let's say

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01:14:02,615 --> 01:14:06,775
Speaker 5: you choose seventy percent, and even at that time, though

1320
01:14:06,895 --> 01:14:11,335
Speaker 5: it continues to just constantly extract air out of the bathroom,

1321
01:14:12,095 --> 01:14:14,775
Speaker 5: you hardly hear it. It'll just run at a very

1322
01:14:14,855 --> 01:14:18,015
Speaker 5: low rate. But what that does in a space where

1323
01:14:18,295 --> 01:14:21,575
Speaker 5: there's a lot of damp, heavy air is if it's

1324
01:14:21,735 --> 01:14:24,895
Speaker 5: constantly being extracted out. So you can leave the bathroom

1325
01:14:24,975 --> 01:14:27,375
Speaker 5: window closed as long as there's a gap unerneath the door,

1326
01:14:27,895 --> 01:14:29,775
Speaker 5: it will draw air from the rest of the house

1327
01:14:29,855 --> 01:14:33,455
Speaker 5: and it will extract it out through there, and that's

1328
01:14:33,495 --> 01:14:35,695
Speaker 5: going to help. So then we've got the issue of

1329
01:14:35,975 --> 01:14:40,375
Speaker 5: the moldy ceiling. You need to use a really good

1330
01:14:40,615 --> 01:14:43,855
Speaker 5: proprietary anti mold treatment. So I use some stuff that

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01:14:43,935 --> 01:14:46,415
Speaker 5: I buy at the Razine Color Shop, which is a

1332
01:14:46,935 --> 01:14:50,615
Speaker 5: moss and mold control or mold control. Get that onto

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01:14:50,655 --> 01:14:54,775
Speaker 5: the ceiling, thoroughly wipe it down with this material, or

1334
01:14:54,815 --> 01:14:57,815
Speaker 5: you can actually treat it and wipe it down and

1335
01:14:57,855 --> 01:14:59,855
Speaker 5: then leave it for twenty four hours and then rinse

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01:14:59,935 --> 01:15:04,375
Speaker 5: it down again. I think, and then you go over

1337
01:15:04,495 --> 01:15:06,855
Speaker 5: and repaint the ceiling. And I think if you've dealt

1338
01:15:06,975 --> 01:15:12,375
Speaker 5: with the extraction, you've got less chance of having mold

1339
01:15:12,455 --> 01:15:15,495
Speaker 5: on the ceiling. The other thing is that having some

1340
01:15:15,895 --> 01:15:20,735
Speaker 5: form of heating that keeps sort of the ambient temperature

1341
01:15:20,775 --> 01:15:23,655
Speaker 5: in that room a little bit higher will help as well.

1342
01:15:23,695 --> 01:15:26,535
Speaker 5: Whether that's a towel rail, a heaated towel rail or

1343
01:15:27,215 --> 01:15:29,335
Speaker 5: undertall Heating's a little bit hard to do now because

1344
01:15:29,335 --> 01:15:32,975
Speaker 5: you've probably already got floor finishings. But I think having

1345
01:15:33,215 --> 01:15:35,535
Speaker 5: a heatd towel rail just to keep the temperature up

1346
01:15:35,535 --> 01:15:38,535
Speaker 5: a little bit will help in that room as well well.

1347
01:15:38,575 --> 01:15:42,255
Speaker 17: This cynics it will still go into the ceiling though.

1348
01:15:42,655 --> 01:15:46,055
Speaker 5: It'll still go into the ceiling, yes, the ceiling and walls,

1349
01:15:46,175 --> 01:15:48,255
Speaker 5: and so you can use the existing opening. Right, you've

1350
01:15:48,255 --> 01:15:51,615
Speaker 5: already got a hole in the ceiling. It can go

1351
01:15:51,775 --> 01:15:55,495
Speaker 5: into the air. You wired it in. Ideally you wire

1352
01:15:55,535 --> 01:15:58,375
Speaker 5: it in so that people don't turn it off. If

1353
01:15:58,455 --> 01:16:00,895
Speaker 5: it's yours, it's probably less of an option, less of

1354
01:16:00,935 --> 01:16:03,575
Speaker 5: an issue. But if you had, for example, tenants or

1355
01:16:03,615 --> 01:16:08,375
Speaker 5: other people staying, you just go leave it. Now a

1356
01:16:08,455 --> 01:16:10,695
Speaker 5: plumber has come through and said, hey, look, it's plumber

1357
01:16:10,735 --> 01:16:12,935
Speaker 5: cane here telling to get the plumber to flash it

1358
01:16:13,015 --> 01:16:18,775
Speaker 5: through the roof. It's easy. So if it's impractical to

1359
01:16:18,895 --> 01:16:22,135
Speaker 5: get to the safite right because it's too far away

1360
01:16:22,255 --> 01:16:24,615
Speaker 5: or you can't get access to it, then venting through

1361
01:16:24,655 --> 01:16:28,535
Speaker 5: the roof is an option. But you know that that

1362
01:16:28,695 --> 01:16:32,375
Speaker 5: might be the plumber and the electrician working together. Apparently

1363
01:16:32,455 --> 01:16:37,855
Speaker 5: such things happen, and it's his job. The plumber said,

1364
01:16:37,975 --> 01:16:43,815
Speaker 5: is not his job. Okay, well, technically it's not his

1365
01:16:43,975 --> 01:16:47,295
Speaker 5: job because plumbing doesn't involve extraction. But if the person

1366
01:16:47,375 --> 01:16:50,335
Speaker 5: who did the roof, if you said to them, I

1367
01:16:50,495 --> 01:16:53,215
Speaker 5: want to vent through the roof, then it becomes his job,

1368
01:16:54,135 --> 01:17:02,535
Speaker 5: right right, you know? Yeah, but I think you know,

1369
01:17:02,815 --> 01:17:04,895
Speaker 5: if the house is like most houses that I'm aware of,

1370
01:17:05,535 --> 01:17:07,095
Speaker 5: you'll be able to get in to the into the

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01:17:07,215 --> 01:17:10,735
Speaker 5: ceiling attached some ducting duct it out to the outside

1372
01:17:10,815 --> 01:17:13,855
Speaker 5: with all of those provisos, and I would would highly

1373
01:17:13,935 --> 01:17:16,655
Speaker 5: recommend I installed one of these constant flow fans a

1374
01:17:16,735 --> 01:17:19,775
Speaker 5: little while ago, and it's made a huge difference to

1375
01:17:19,895 --> 01:17:25,375
Speaker 5: the feeling inside there. Right, all right, okay, lovely to

1376
01:17:25,495 --> 01:17:27,775
Speaker 5: chat with you take care of all of this duty.

1377
01:17:28,815 --> 01:17:32,375
Speaker 5: Apparently there are ramps available that are kind of temporary,

1378
01:17:33,255 --> 01:17:36,895
Speaker 5: so ramp works. I don't know them, but it looks

1379
01:17:37,135 --> 01:17:40,095
Speaker 5: like a good solution. So ramp works works of course

1380
01:17:40,175 --> 01:17:43,455
Speaker 5: with an x SO ramp r A mp w r

1381
01:17:43,815 --> 01:17:46,855
Speaker 5: X dot CO dot n Z. If that works, then

1382
01:17:46,895 --> 01:17:49,335
Speaker 5: that's fantastic. A couple of other texts to come through

1383
01:17:49,415 --> 01:17:54,415
Speaker 5: as well. What about getting some motorcycle ramps from old

1384
01:17:54,415 --> 01:17:58,895
Speaker 5: super cheap auto as its temporary measure. I like the creativity,

1385
01:17:59,895 --> 01:18:03,135
Speaker 5: I have to say, and the ramps must be better

1386
01:18:03,135 --> 01:18:04,975
Speaker 5: than a bit of old scaffole plank that we used

1387
01:18:04,975 --> 01:18:07,255
Speaker 5: to try and run the bikes up. It is seven

1388
01:18:07,375 --> 01:18:09,015
Speaker 5: forty nine. I'll take a break, then we'll chat with

1389
01:18:09,175 --> 01:18:10,015
Speaker 5: Murray after.

1390
01:18:09,895 --> 01:18:14,455
Speaker 1: The break, turning ohs into She'll be right the resident

1391
01:18:14,535 --> 01:18:18,935
Speaker 1: builder with Peter Wolfcamp and Independent Building supplies the future

1392
01:18:19,015 --> 01:18:20,535
Speaker 1: of Kiwi Building Today.

1393
01:18:20,775 --> 01:18:23,575
Speaker 3: Call eight hundred eighty news Talks.

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01:18:23,855 --> 01:18:26,415
Speaker 5: Be you a news Talks. He'd be seven fifty two

1395
01:18:26,695 --> 01:18:28,575
Speaker 5: and a very very good morning to you. Murray.

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01:18:29,775 --> 01:18:33,335
Speaker 15: Yeah, Hi, you paid great time. About two or three

1397
01:18:33,375 --> 01:18:35,855
Speaker 15: weeks ago, you had a woman rang up with a

1398
01:18:35,895 --> 01:18:40,535
Speaker 15: world cast standard through her yes, and a guy rang

1399
01:18:40,695 --> 01:18:43,015
Speaker 15: up and he had a machine that would fix the

1400
01:18:43,135 --> 01:18:45,895
Speaker 15: whole lot. Who what was the name of that firm?

1401
01:18:48,695 --> 01:18:51,215
Speaker 5: I think I had a tidy up and took my

1402
01:18:51,415 --> 01:18:57,175
Speaker 5: notes and filed them so off the top of my head,

1403
01:18:58,575 --> 01:19:04,255
Speaker 5: my apologies, I just can't recall. Someone will take through,

1404
01:19:04,415 --> 01:19:06,855
Speaker 5: I'm sure in the next half hour or so and

1405
01:19:07,015 --> 01:19:10,455
Speaker 5: let me know. But what they're able to do is

1406
01:19:10,975 --> 01:19:14,255
Speaker 5: and I saw a similar crowd operating near me, So

1407
01:19:14,375 --> 01:19:19,055
Speaker 5: they use CCTV and a little vehicle that's able to

1408
01:19:19,135 --> 01:19:21,935
Speaker 5: travel along. And then what he was describing is that

1409
01:19:22,015 --> 01:19:25,775
Speaker 5: they could actually cut and remove that warrator and then

1410
01:19:26,335 --> 01:19:28,775
Speaker 5: you know, use the same vehicle to deliver a patch

1411
01:19:29,335 --> 01:19:33,495
Speaker 5: into there as well. If they'd like to ring or text,

1412
01:19:34,135 --> 01:19:37,415
Speaker 5: then that would be awesome, But I at this stage

1413
01:19:37,455 --> 01:19:39,975
Speaker 5: I didn't, Yeah, like I say, so what happens just

1414
01:19:40,135 --> 01:19:42,415
Speaker 5: by the way. I So when I come into the

1415
01:19:42,455 --> 01:19:45,775
Speaker 5: studio every Sunday, I've got my notepad and I write

1416
01:19:45,855 --> 01:19:48,695
Speaker 5: down the names of all of you find people that

1417
01:19:48,775 --> 01:19:51,015
Speaker 5: phone through and what you talk about, and I make

1418
01:19:51,055 --> 01:19:53,415
Speaker 5: a few other notes and bits and pieces, and then

1419
01:19:53,495 --> 01:19:56,335
Speaker 5: I after a couple of weeks, I file all of

1420
01:19:56,415 --> 01:19:58,175
Speaker 5: those at home. So at home, I've got a ring

1421
01:19:58,255 --> 01:20:02,935
Speaker 5: binder which has literally every single show I've ever done

1422
01:20:03,535 --> 01:20:07,655
Speaker 5: in almost fourteen years of doing this program in a

1423
01:20:07,735 --> 01:20:11,455
Speaker 5: ring binder with all of your names and everything that

1424
01:20:11,495 --> 01:20:13,775
Speaker 5: you've talked about that I keep, and so it's it's

1425
01:20:13,935 --> 01:20:16,255
Speaker 5: kind of a reference thing for me. And somewhere in

1426
01:20:16,295 --> 01:20:18,655
Speaker 5: there I probably have those details. So if no one rings,

1427
01:20:18,695 --> 01:20:20,535
Speaker 5: I will find out this week and make sure that

1428
01:20:20,615 --> 01:20:24,655
Speaker 5: I mention it next week on the program. Awesome, All right,

1429
01:20:25,175 --> 01:20:28,175
Speaker 5: take care about all of this. Maybe I need to

1430
01:20:28,335 --> 01:20:33,495
Speaker 5: establish my own database. Probably not a bad idea. Note

1431
01:20:33,655 --> 01:20:37,135
Speaker 5: to self. Things to do, maybe not this week, but

1432
01:20:37,255 --> 01:20:40,615
Speaker 5: things to do, right Jane, quickly from you, Good morning.

1433
01:20:41,455 --> 01:20:43,615
Speaker 17: You Phi Pete, how are you good?

1434
01:20:43,775 --> 01:20:44,055
Speaker 5: Thank you?

1435
01:20:44,575 --> 01:20:47,255
Speaker 17: Go for it, and I've just got to question, just

1436
01:20:47,335 --> 01:20:51,255
Speaker 17: wondering about where to go next. About ten or eleven

1437
01:20:51,335 --> 01:20:54,615
Speaker 17: years ago, I had some electrical workdowne on my kitchen

1438
01:20:54,655 --> 01:21:00,095
Speaker 17: and bathroom, primarily kitchen lights and installing you know, wiring

1439
01:21:00,215 --> 01:21:04,095
Speaker 17: up range hood and that sort of thing, and in

1440
01:21:04,175 --> 01:21:07,935
Speaker 17: the bathroom like hater in the bath during them, you know,

1441
01:21:08,375 --> 01:21:13,015
Speaker 17: lights over the mirror of that sort of thing. Yeah,

1442
01:21:13,095 --> 01:21:17,055
Speaker 17: quite a bit of work. Never, the sparky that did

1443
01:21:17,135 --> 01:21:18,335
Speaker 17: it was godd and I do only have be any

1444
01:21:18,375 --> 01:21:21,495
Speaker 17: complaints about his work, but I never received the COOC

1445
01:21:22,855 --> 01:21:25,735
Speaker 17: and so I did sort of mention it a couple

1446
01:21:25,775 --> 01:21:28,415
Speaker 17: of years later when I was ringing him about some

1447
01:21:28,575 --> 01:21:32,095
Speaker 17: of the lights had failed with a fixed up, but anyhow,

1448
01:21:32,175 --> 01:21:35,175
Speaker 17: it sort of didn't seem is seeing really reluctant to

1449
01:21:35,215 --> 01:21:36,775
Speaker 17: get back to me, and I found him a bit

1450
01:21:36,815 --> 01:21:39,175
Speaker 17: difficult to deal with, so I just sort of let

1451
01:21:39,255 --> 01:21:43,375
Speaker 17: it slide, and of course I'm trying to get everything,

1452
01:21:43,815 --> 01:21:47,975
Speaker 17: you know, sorted and everything properly done now, so certification

1453
01:21:48,095 --> 01:21:51,455
Speaker 17: blah blah blah, and so I recently I found him

1454
01:21:51,535 --> 01:21:54,415
Speaker 17: last week and I asked him if he could check

1455
01:21:54,495 --> 01:21:56,855
Speaker 17: his records, you know, blah blah blah. And he did

1456
01:21:56,895 --> 01:21:58,815
Speaker 17: and he text me back and he said, oh no,

1457
01:21:58,935 --> 01:22:01,695
Speaker 17: he hasn't done any records. He said, we're only required

1458
01:22:01,775 --> 01:22:04,615
Speaker 17: to keep them for seven years. And I said, oh, well,

1459
01:22:04,735 --> 01:22:07,255
Speaker 17: I said okay, but I said I never received them

1460
01:22:07,295 --> 01:22:11,575
Speaker 17: in the begin in the beginning. And I said, never

1461
01:22:11,655 --> 01:22:13,415
Speaker 17: received it in the beginning. I said, I've got all

1462
01:22:13,495 --> 01:22:16,295
Speaker 17: your invoices for all your work, yes, which I can

1463
01:22:16,455 --> 01:22:19,375
Speaker 17: forward to you so you can see the work you've done.

1464
01:22:19,935 --> 01:22:20,495
Speaker 6: Blah blah blah.

1465
01:22:20,895 --> 01:22:23,615
Speaker 17: And he came back and said, I can't remember what

1466
01:22:23,695 --> 01:22:26,935
Speaker 17: he said now or something, but in other words, idea, yeah,

1467
01:22:26,935 --> 01:22:27,175
Speaker 17: I'm not.

1468
01:22:27,175 --> 01:22:28,775
Speaker 5: Going to I'm not going to help out now. We're

1469
01:22:28,775 --> 01:22:30,815
Speaker 5: going to run into the news. So can I just

1470
01:22:30,895 --> 01:22:33,975
Speaker 5: get you to hold I think there is a solution

1471
01:22:34,175 --> 01:22:36,895
Speaker 5: and we'll we'll talk about that after News, Sport and Weather,

1472
01:22:36,975 --> 01:22:38,695
Speaker 5: Top of the hour at eight o'clock. If you'd like

1473
01:22:38,735 --> 01:22:41,735
Speaker 5: to call now, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We'll

1474
01:22:41,735 --> 01:22:43,455
Speaker 5: come to you straight after news, sport and.

1475
01:22:43,455 --> 01:22:46,295
Speaker 3: Weather, helping you finish that fibe. But it fixed.

1476
01:22:46,415 --> 01:22:49,735
Speaker 1: You started the resident building with Peter wilf Camp and

1477
01:22:49,975 --> 01:22:54,375
Speaker 1: Independent Building Supplies. The future of Kiwi building today call

1478
01:22:54,575 --> 01:22:56,975
Speaker 1: oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty news Talks.

1479
01:22:56,975 --> 01:22:59,975
Speaker 5: There'd be I have to say the little promos because

1480
01:22:59,975 --> 01:23:02,455
Speaker 5: I don't write them and I don't get to hear

1481
01:23:02,495 --> 01:23:05,855
Speaker 5: them until the broadcast like they were, but they are.

1482
01:23:06,415 --> 01:23:10,015
Speaker 5: They show a remarkable, I'm not being patronizing, tremendous level

1483
01:23:10,055 --> 01:23:13,935
Speaker 5: of insight. So working on that five minute fact, I'm sure.

1484
01:23:14,295 --> 01:23:17,135
Speaker 5: I'm absolutely convinced that one of the greatest causes of

1485
01:23:17,215 --> 01:23:19,655
Speaker 5: frustration is that we underestimate the time that we need

1486
01:23:19,735 --> 01:23:23,655
Speaker 5: to do a good job right, so and we kind

1487
01:23:23,695 --> 01:23:25,775
Speaker 5: of try and I do it. You trip ourselves up

1488
01:23:25,815 --> 01:23:28,295
Speaker 5: by going, look, I think it's going to take an hour.

1489
01:23:28,935 --> 01:23:30,815
Speaker 5: You know in your heart that's going to be two

1490
01:23:30,975 --> 01:23:32,255
Speaker 5: or three hours, and you think I'm going to do

1491
01:23:32,295 --> 01:23:34,575
Speaker 5: it in an hour, and then when the hour's up,

1492
01:23:34,615 --> 01:23:36,775
Speaker 5: you get frustrated because you haven't finished or you haven't

1493
01:23:36,815 --> 01:23:39,015
Speaker 5: been able to do it as well as you would

1494
01:23:39,055 --> 01:23:41,335
Speaker 5: expect to be able to do it, or you should

1495
01:23:41,495 --> 01:23:44,375
Speaker 5: do it more importantly, and then you get frustrated. So

1496
01:23:44,615 --> 01:23:48,735
Speaker 5: be realistic about the time things take, and then you'll

1497
01:23:48,775 --> 01:23:52,615
Speaker 5: be a lot less frustrated, I think. Anyway, So they're awesome, right,

1498
01:23:52,695 --> 01:23:55,055
Speaker 5: let's go back to Jane. I've got a couple of

1499
01:23:55,055 --> 01:23:58,535
Speaker 5: other little notices for you as well, Jane, with regard

1500
01:23:58,615 --> 01:24:02,135
Speaker 5: to the electrician that did the work some time ago,

1501
01:24:02,375 --> 01:24:05,935
Speaker 5: and when he says he's required to keep records for

1502
01:24:05,975 --> 01:24:09,095
Speaker 5: seven years, I think what he's doing is he's mixing up,

1503
01:24:09,655 --> 01:24:14,535
Speaker 5: either deliberately or inadvertently, a requirement for businesses to keep

1504
01:24:15,015 --> 01:24:17,975
Speaker 5: income tax records for seven years. I don't know what

1505
01:24:18,135 --> 01:24:23,375
Speaker 5: the regulations are for electricians, so I think that that's

1506
01:24:23,415 --> 01:24:24,935
Speaker 5: a convenient excuse.

1507
01:24:24,695 --> 01:24:27,415
Speaker 17: Right, Yeah, I just think a quick block in the

1508
01:24:27,495 --> 01:24:31,775
Speaker 17: break at the text. And I've said to him, I'll

1509
01:24:31,855 --> 01:24:34,495
Speaker 17: ford you copies of the invoices and then maybe you

1510
01:24:34,575 --> 01:24:37,855
Speaker 17: can provide me with the COOC And he said, unfortunately,

1511
01:24:38,095 --> 01:24:42,095
Speaker 17: not as the test result and everything. Well, I don't

1512
01:24:42,095 --> 01:24:44,975
Speaker 17: know what that means. We're on the original if filled

1513
01:24:45,015 --> 01:24:48,095
Speaker 17: out on site, there might be a copy in the switchboard,

1514
01:24:48,415 --> 01:24:51,415
Speaker 17: which I had a look in me wasn't I Well,

1515
01:24:51,455 --> 01:24:54,735
Speaker 17: you never actually provided me with a COOC. Where do

1516
01:24:54,815 --> 01:24:57,895
Speaker 17: we go from here? And I've had silence and that right,

1517
01:24:59,175 --> 01:25:00,055
Speaker 17: So I.

1518
01:25:00,095 --> 01:25:02,895
Speaker 5: Mean, if you wanted to push it, you could kind

1519
01:25:02,935 --> 01:25:05,935
Speaker 5: of go to the electric registration board because it is

1520
01:25:05,975 --> 01:25:10,255
Speaker 5: a re requirement for all electricians to issue a CoA

1521
01:25:11,815 --> 01:25:14,775
Speaker 5: certificate of acceptance or certificate of compliance. Do they do

1522
01:25:15,175 --> 01:25:18,495
Speaker 5: no COCs at the end of the job, right, So

1523
01:25:18,655 --> 01:25:21,055
Speaker 5: even if it's relatively small work. So I've got an

1524
01:25:21,055 --> 01:25:26,535
Speaker 5: electrician coming to a project to replace a hob right now,

1525
01:25:27,215 --> 01:25:29,775
Speaker 5: it's a relatively small job. It's like for like, but

1526
01:25:29,895 --> 01:25:31,695
Speaker 5: I would imagine that at the end of it, because

1527
01:25:31,735 --> 01:25:36,015
Speaker 5: they're good electricians, they'll send me either electronically or in

1528
01:25:36,055 --> 01:25:39,735
Speaker 5: a paper copy, a copy of that. So let's put

1529
01:25:39,775 --> 01:25:41,935
Speaker 5: that aside. Let's go Okay, So the issue is that

1530
01:25:42,095 --> 01:25:44,415
Speaker 5: you actually are preparing the house for sale. You want

1531
01:25:44,455 --> 01:25:46,935
Speaker 5: to get some paperwork in order for that. Why not

1532
01:25:47,215 --> 01:25:50,095
Speaker 5: either get that electrician or another electrician to come along

1533
01:25:50,735 --> 01:25:55,175
Speaker 5: conduct an electrical safety survey through the house and issue

1534
01:25:55,255 --> 01:25:59,215
Speaker 5: you with an electrical safety certificate, which is quite commonplace

1535
01:25:59,295 --> 01:26:02,615
Speaker 5: these days. And I actually think just as a by

1536
01:26:02,695 --> 01:26:07,295
Speaker 5: the bye, you know, like if you've moved into a

1537
01:26:07,535 --> 01:26:09,655
Speaker 5: if you've changed how you've moved into a new house,

1538
01:26:09,815 --> 01:26:12,255
Speaker 5: maybe someone has done it, but if they haven't done it,

1539
01:26:12,695 --> 01:26:15,495
Speaker 5: I actually think it's money well spent, right, And essentially

1540
01:26:15,575 --> 01:26:19,615
Speaker 5: what it is is the electrician coming and testing all

1541
01:26:19,695 --> 01:26:22,575
Speaker 5: of the circuits on the house looking for potential faults,

1542
01:26:24,015 --> 01:26:27,295
Speaker 5: and they may well identify a fault before it becomes

1543
01:26:27,375 --> 01:26:32,335
Speaker 5: something that's hazardous. So I think these are really really

1544
01:26:32,535 --> 01:26:36,575
Speaker 5: worthwhile doing, and I know on a couple of occasions

1545
01:26:37,015 --> 01:26:39,695
Speaker 5: I've either had them done for myself or commissioned them

1546
01:26:39,775 --> 01:26:42,895
Speaker 5: on behalf of clients to go. You know what, we

1547
01:26:43,295 --> 01:26:46,375
Speaker 5: don't actually know what we're dealing with. Over time, all

1548
01:26:46,495 --> 01:26:50,255
Speaker 5: sorts of electrical work happens. Some of it perhaps has

1549
01:26:50,335 --> 01:26:53,295
Speaker 5: done correctly, some of it might not. Be let's just

1550
01:26:53,415 --> 01:26:56,855
Speaker 5: go and test it so you know, you can continue

1551
01:26:56,935 --> 01:27:00,175
Speaker 5: to engage with the existing contractor, but if you just

1552
01:27:00,255 --> 01:27:02,935
Speaker 5: find it's too hard, then I would just go to

1553
01:27:03,055 --> 01:27:03,855
Speaker 5: another contractor.

1554
01:27:04,215 --> 01:27:07,975
Speaker 17: My gut feeling is never provided it, because I mean

1555
01:27:08,055 --> 01:27:13,615
Speaker 17: I'm meticulous in keeping paperwork, those invoices, so I definitely

1556
01:27:13,655 --> 01:27:16,055
Speaker 17: would have kept the certificate. But he never provided it,

1557
01:27:16,135 --> 01:27:19,535
Speaker 17: and he should have, and you know, he's just been

1558
01:27:19,615 --> 01:27:23,415
Speaker 17: quite dismissive, and I just wondered if it's going to

1559
01:27:23,455 --> 01:27:26,415
Speaker 17: be I mean, obviously I doubt whether he's going to

1560
01:27:26,455 --> 01:27:28,775
Speaker 17: want to come and do it. So I just wonder

1561
01:27:29,415 --> 01:27:32,135
Speaker 17: will other spar keys be happy to come and test

1562
01:27:33,135 --> 01:27:34,775
Speaker 17: someone else else?

1563
01:27:35,215 --> 01:27:38,175
Speaker 5: They will, I can't see why they wouldn't. It's not

1564
01:27:38,415 --> 01:27:41,695
Speaker 5: like you're asking them to take over and be responsible

1565
01:27:41,855 --> 01:27:46,015
Speaker 5: for that person's work. And this is that that uncomfortableness,

1566
01:27:46,175 --> 01:27:49,135
Speaker 5: Like if yeah, and I talked with my mates who

1567
01:27:49,135 --> 01:27:50,455
Speaker 5: a builders and that's the thing, and you know, you

1568
01:27:50,495 --> 01:27:52,735
Speaker 5: get a client that rings up and goes, look, I've

1569
01:27:52,815 --> 01:27:54,495
Speaker 5: just fired the builder, and I'd like you to come

1570
01:27:54,535 --> 01:27:58,495
Speaker 5: and finish the job, right, Yeah, Nobody really wants to

1571
01:27:58,575 --> 01:28:01,415
Speaker 5: do that sort of work because either you don't know

1572
01:28:01,535 --> 01:28:02,895
Speaker 5: whether you're going to pick up on a whole lot

1573
01:28:02,935 --> 01:28:04,655
Speaker 5: of problems, or in fact, you're going to pick up

1574
01:28:04,695 --> 01:28:07,975
Speaker 5: on a client who's just you know, difficult to deal with.

1575
01:28:08,375 --> 01:28:10,975
Speaker 5: So in this instance, what you're saying is I never

1576
01:28:11,055 --> 01:28:15,295
Speaker 5: got a CoA at the time, So see, rather for

1577
01:28:15,415 --> 01:28:17,375
Speaker 5: the work, I'd like to have it tested so that

1578
01:28:17,495 --> 01:28:21,575
Speaker 5: I can provide some information to a prospective purchaser to

1579
01:28:21,695 --> 01:28:24,215
Speaker 5: say that I've had that work done. They maintain their

1580
01:28:24,255 --> 01:28:27,735
Speaker 5: own standards, right. If they find a fault, they will

1581
01:28:27,815 --> 01:28:31,215
Speaker 5: tell you, and they will probably tell you you need

1582
01:28:31,295 --> 01:28:32,455
Speaker 5: to get it repaired.

1583
01:28:32,135 --> 01:28:35,935
Speaker 17: So they they don't have to like rip out, we'll

1584
01:28:36,135 --> 01:28:38,535
Speaker 17: not make hold and things to test, so to do

1585
01:28:38,615 --> 01:28:40,815
Speaker 17: it external from the wiring and all that.

1586
01:28:41,255 --> 01:28:45,175
Speaker 5: Yeah, and look, I recognize the fact that I'm a

1587
01:28:45,415 --> 01:28:48,055
Speaker 5: carpenter not an electrician, right, But when I've had it done,

1588
01:28:48,535 --> 01:28:51,815
Speaker 5: there's a little device that they call MEG, a megging machine, right,

1589
01:28:51,895 --> 01:28:56,375
Speaker 5: So they'll test each individual circuit looking for fluctuations that

1590
01:28:56,415 --> 01:28:59,055
Speaker 5: would indicate a fault. They'll go through and do a

1591
01:28:59,135 --> 01:29:01,415
Speaker 5: survey of the board. They'll go and find the earth

1592
01:29:01,495 --> 01:29:05,375
Speaker 5: peg and make sure that the connection is there. One

1593
01:29:05,575 --> 01:29:06,215
Speaker 5: do you have one?

1594
01:29:06,455 --> 01:29:06,615
Speaker 7: Two?

1595
01:29:06,855 --> 01:29:10,215
Speaker 5: Is it connected? Three? Is the connection you know, hasn't

1596
01:29:10,255 --> 01:29:12,455
Speaker 5: been ripped apart by the weed eater that sort of thing,

1597
01:29:12,815 --> 01:29:15,615
Speaker 5: All of these sorts of things. So it's a head

1598
01:29:15,695 --> 01:29:19,335
Speaker 5: to toe survey of the electrical system, check the board,

1599
01:29:19,775 --> 01:29:22,095
Speaker 5: meg all of the outlets, and then give you a

1600
01:29:22,135 --> 01:29:23,055
Speaker 5: certificate at the end of it.

1601
01:29:23,975 --> 01:29:24,135
Speaker 11: Good.

1602
01:29:24,255 --> 01:29:27,415
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think it is. We're going to put my

1603
01:29:27,535 --> 01:29:30,775
Speaker 17: mind at ease. No, that's really good. If I say

1604
01:29:30,895 --> 01:29:33,255
Speaker 17: I didn't have an issue with his work if it's fine,

1605
01:29:33,695 --> 01:29:35,815
Speaker 17: never had a problem with it, just never received the

1606
01:29:35,895 --> 01:29:39,175
Speaker 17: coca which is best.

1607
01:29:39,215 --> 01:29:43,055
Speaker 5: I understand it is a requirement for electricians registered electricians

1608
01:29:43,135 --> 01:29:45,295
Speaker 5: to issue after every single job.

1609
01:29:45,975 --> 01:29:47,015
Speaker 9: Yeah, which he didn't.

1610
01:29:47,975 --> 01:29:49,735
Speaker 17: Yeah, okay, thank you very much.

1611
01:29:50,215 --> 01:29:50,975
Speaker 15: Take care all this.

1612
01:29:51,135 --> 01:29:53,455
Speaker 5: With that, I'm happy to take a text from an

1613
01:29:53,455 --> 01:29:55,855
Speaker 5: electrician if I'm wrong, I don't think i am. I'm

1614
01:29:55,855 --> 01:29:58,575
Speaker 5: pretty sure that after every single electrical job, so you

1615
01:29:59,055 --> 01:30:01,455
Speaker 5: ask for an extra PowerPoint to be installed, for example,

1616
01:30:02,335 --> 01:30:05,055
Speaker 5: certificate should be produced to you, the homeowner at the

1617
01:30:05,215 --> 01:30:07,335
Speaker 5: end of that job, righty oh uh?

1618
01:30:07,735 --> 01:30:08,055
Speaker 3: Who are you?

1619
01:30:08,335 --> 01:30:09,055
Speaker 5: Good morning to you?

1620
01:30:10,335 --> 01:30:10,895
Speaker 13: Good morning?

1621
01:30:10,975 --> 01:30:12,135
Speaker 5: How are you morning? Very well?

1622
01:30:13,135 --> 01:30:16,215
Speaker 18: How can I have a little and a US that

1623
01:30:16,375 --> 01:30:20,335
Speaker 18: is six months old and there is a down pipe

1624
01:30:20,415 --> 01:30:25,535
Speaker 18: from the spouting outside my bedroom which drips?

1625
01:30:26,135 --> 01:30:28,495
Speaker 5: Ah? Yes, sorry oceould.

1626
01:30:28,255 --> 01:30:32,215
Speaker 18: Last, how can you stop the dripping noise?

1627
01:30:36,815 --> 01:30:40,975
Speaker 5: What what you're hearing is water dripping from the top

1628
01:30:41,015 --> 01:30:44,615
Speaker 5: of the downpipe, falling down the downpipe and then hitting

1629
01:30:45,175 --> 01:30:46,535
Speaker 5: a bend at the bottom, isn't it.

1630
01:30:48,055 --> 01:30:50,375
Speaker 18: I presume starts into a decking and it looks like

1631
01:30:50,495 --> 01:30:51,335
Speaker 18: it's into a drain.

1632
01:30:51,575 --> 01:30:54,575
Speaker 5: Yes, hang on hand, where does the down is the

1633
01:30:54,655 --> 01:30:56,455
Speaker 5: downpipe connected to the storm water.

1634
01:30:58,655 --> 01:30:59,615
Speaker 18: I'm presuming it is.

1635
01:30:59,815 --> 01:31:03,935
Speaker 5: Yes, So when if you are outside looking at the downpipe,

1636
01:31:03,935 --> 01:31:06,735
Speaker 5: the downpipe goes down and then the downpipe will probably

1637
01:31:06,775 --> 01:31:09,495
Speaker 5: be eighty millimeters and it goes into a fitting that's

1638
01:31:09,495 --> 01:31:22,775
Speaker 5: about one hundred milimeters for example. Yes, okay, well that's.

1639
01:31:19,255 --> 01:31:21,335
Speaker 18: Somebody said to me, put a tennis ball in it,

1640
01:31:21,375 --> 01:31:22,015
Speaker 18: and I thought.

1641
01:31:21,895 --> 01:31:26,775
Speaker 5: No, I'm not sure that blocking the down pipe while

1642
01:31:26,815 --> 01:31:31,775
Speaker 5: it's effective and stopping the drips, yeah, I'm not sure

1643
01:31:31,935 --> 01:31:39,575
Speaker 5: that that's the best idea. Sometimes, like putting in an

1644
01:31:39,775 --> 01:31:44,655
Speaker 5: elbow halfway down just stops because it's the velocity of

1645
01:31:44,775 --> 01:31:50,295
Speaker 5: the drip right as it comes down. It is slightly

1646
01:31:50,375 --> 01:31:54,255
Speaker 5: unusual because if you look at how water runs down

1647
01:31:54,295 --> 01:31:57,735
Speaker 5: a down pipe, it actually when it's flowing, it actually

1648
01:31:57,815 --> 01:32:01,455
Speaker 5: runs around the outside of the pipe. It kind of

1649
01:32:01,535 --> 01:32:04,215
Speaker 5: has surface tension. It runs around the outside. And I

1650
01:32:04,335 --> 01:32:06,575
Speaker 5: know this in part because I was installing a little

1651
01:32:07,255 --> 01:32:11,255
Speaker 5: six hundred liter Bailey water tank. And when you buy them,

1652
01:32:11,455 --> 01:32:16,175
Speaker 5: you get a fitting kit, which is a very it

1653
01:32:16,295 --> 01:32:18,015
Speaker 5: kind of looks like a mouthguard, So you drill a

1654
01:32:18,055 --> 01:32:21,935
Speaker 5: hole inside the downpipe poke this little mouthguard type looking

1655
01:32:22,055 --> 01:32:24,535
Speaker 5: device into it and it captures the water and directs

1656
01:32:24,575 --> 01:32:27,215
Speaker 5: it into the Bailey water tank, which is super smart.

1657
01:32:28,055 --> 01:32:30,895
Speaker 5: And the reason it works is that it collects the

1658
01:32:30,935 --> 01:32:32,695
Speaker 5: water that runs around the outside of the pipe. So

1659
01:32:32,855 --> 01:32:36,895
Speaker 5: a drip that happens to fall all the way down

1660
01:32:37,375 --> 01:32:40,855
Speaker 5: with bullet like precision down the downpipe and then hit

1661
01:32:41,375 --> 01:32:44,735
Speaker 5: the elbow at the bottom. It's kind of unusual.

1662
01:32:46,135 --> 01:32:50,375
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's just that we're some really heavy Jews in

1663
01:32:50,535 --> 01:32:55,375
Speaker 18: christ Church night and it starts normally at about three o'clock.

1664
01:32:55,015 --> 01:32:55,575
Speaker 4: In the morning.

1665
01:32:55,695 --> 01:33:00,375
Speaker 18: Oh that's a convenient, yeah, very and it's just, yeah,

1666
01:33:00,575 --> 01:33:02,455
Speaker 18: very hard to get back to sleep again with the

1667
01:33:02,535 --> 01:33:03,815
Speaker 18: constant drip.

1668
01:33:04,495 --> 01:33:07,775
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know who.

1669
01:33:08,015 --> 01:33:14,335
Speaker 5: Definitely from the downpipe. Yes it is, yep, And it's

1670
01:33:14,415 --> 01:33:16,975
Speaker 5: on the inside of the downpipe. It's not on the outside.

1671
01:33:17,015 --> 01:33:21,335
Speaker 5: There's not a little leak somewhere, you know, like a

1672
01:33:21,455 --> 01:33:28,335
Speaker 5: flashing that hasn't been sealed properly and is dripping down. No, No,

1673
01:33:28,935 --> 01:33:33,655
Speaker 5: it's inside the downpipe. Given that at six months old,

1674
01:33:34,655 --> 01:33:36,655
Speaker 5: I wonder whether it's worth going back to the main

1675
01:33:36,735 --> 01:33:40,695
Speaker 5: contractor and asking the downpipe installer or the spouting crew

1676
01:33:41,215 --> 01:33:43,175
Speaker 5: to come back and just have a look at it.

1677
01:33:43,375 --> 01:33:46,135
Speaker 5: And make sure that you know, is it possible that

1678
01:33:46,215 --> 01:33:49,135
Speaker 5: the downpipe slightly on an angle as well that it's

1679
01:33:49,295 --> 01:33:51,735
Speaker 5: it's heading the side as it goes down if it's

1680
01:33:51,815 --> 01:33:57,335
Speaker 5: not exactly plump, or is it possible to install another

1681
01:33:57,455 --> 01:34:03,535
Speaker 5: elbow and then stop the velocity of that downpipe? Okay, yeah,

1682
01:34:03,935 --> 01:34:07,255
Speaker 5: but look, I think given that it's relatively new, I

1683
01:34:07,335 --> 01:34:09,375
Speaker 5: would be going back to the main contractor.

1684
01:34:10,175 --> 01:34:12,295
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you for that, all the very best.

1685
01:34:12,375 --> 01:34:13,935
Speaker 5: Nice to chat with you. Take care who we are.

1686
01:34:14,535 --> 01:34:19,335
Speaker 5: Just on the electrical safety certificate? Hang on, here we go.

1687
01:34:22,375 --> 01:34:24,895
Speaker 5: Electrician should certify the work done COC for the whole

1688
01:34:24,975 --> 01:34:30,655
Speaker 5: job or a whole job electrical safety certificate for the powerpoints. Hey, Pete,

1689
01:34:30,695 --> 01:34:33,295
Speaker 5: I'm an electrician. We do have to hold a copy

1690
01:34:33,375 --> 01:34:36,495
Speaker 5: of the COC for seven years. Okay, so seven years

1691
01:34:36,615 --> 01:34:39,455
Speaker 5: is the requirement thereafter, I guess you don't need to

1692
01:34:39,535 --> 01:34:43,735
Speaker 5: continue to keep that information, which is fair enough and understandable.

1693
01:34:44,455 --> 01:34:52,295
Speaker 5: M yeah, same electrician again, Homiera. To add to my

1694
01:34:52,375 --> 01:34:54,935
Speaker 5: last messresses. As well as holding on to a COC

1695
01:34:55,255 --> 01:34:57,815
Speaker 5: for electrical work for seven years, we also have to

1696
01:34:57,935 --> 01:35:01,575
Speaker 5: supply a COC within twenty days of completing the job.

1697
01:35:02,135 --> 01:35:05,455
Speaker 5: Can't be withheld for payment either, which is very similar

1698
01:35:05,535 --> 01:35:10,775
Speaker 5: to licenseed building practitioners with holding a for example, a

1699
01:35:10,815 --> 01:35:14,935
Speaker 5: record of works or something like that memorandum because they

1700
01:35:15,535 --> 01:35:21,495
Speaker 5: haven't got paid. You can't do that either. Interesting. Thank

1701
01:35:21,535 --> 01:35:23,495
Speaker 5: you for all the texts on that. Oh, eight hundred

1702
01:35:23,495 --> 01:35:26,575
Speaker 5: and eighty ten eighty is the number to core. Just

1703
01:35:26,695 --> 01:35:30,375
Speaker 5: on the downpipe. Think a small chain inside the downpipe, well,

1704
01:35:30,575 --> 01:35:34,335
Speaker 5: mean that the water tracks along the chain. You can't

1705
01:35:34,335 --> 01:35:36,495
Speaker 5: see it from the outside, but that'll stop the drip

1706
01:35:36,655 --> 01:35:39,775
Speaker 5: as well. Because you see that overseas. Australia seems to

1707
01:35:39,775 --> 01:35:42,455
Speaker 5: be very popular. In the bush. Instead of having a downpipe,

1708
01:35:42,495 --> 01:35:44,535
Speaker 5: they've just got a chain hanging at the outlet and

1709
01:35:44,615 --> 01:35:47,455
Speaker 5: the water just follows there and hits the ground. I

1710
01:35:47,495 --> 01:35:49,335
Speaker 5: think I've tried that once. I'm not sure if it

1711
01:35:49,455 --> 01:35:51,815
Speaker 5: was terribly successful. I quite like the idea, but I'm

1712
01:35:51,855 --> 01:35:54,015
Speaker 5: not sure if it's terribly successful. Plus I want to

1713
01:35:54,055 --> 01:35:57,295
Speaker 5: capture all of that water into my water tanks. It

1714
01:35:57,415 --> 01:36:01,455
Speaker 5: is eight nineteen now. Remember Rude today will be joining

1715
01:36:01,535 --> 01:36:04,415
Speaker 5: us for a small editorial piece at around eight forty five.

1716
01:36:04,535 --> 01:36:06,815
Speaker 1: So no Q and A with Rud to day back

1717
01:36:06,855 --> 01:36:12,935
Speaker 1: after the break where DIY gets I'm stuck Call eighty

1718
01:36:13,135 --> 01:36:17,335
Speaker 1: the Resident Builder with Peter WILFCAM and Independent Building Supplies,

1719
01:36:17,495 --> 01:36:21,615
Speaker 1: The Future of Kiwi Building Today, News TALKSB You and.

1720
01:36:21,615 --> 01:36:24,535
Speaker 5: News Talks AB. Remember we're taking your building question through

1721
01:36:24,615 --> 01:36:27,975
Speaker 5: to about eight forty three if I'm really really precise,

1722
01:36:28,055 --> 01:36:29,855
Speaker 5: maybe even eight forty two. We'll see how we go

1723
01:36:31,335 --> 01:36:34,015
Speaker 5: today on the show and then a brief chat with

1724
01:36:34,175 --> 01:36:37,895
Speaker 5: through it just after eight forty five. So will continue

1725
01:36:38,175 --> 01:36:41,535
Speaker 5: with your calls in just a moment now. An event

1726
01:36:41,615 --> 01:36:43,695
Speaker 5: that I'm going to be hanging out at next week

1727
01:36:43,815 --> 01:36:46,375
Speaker 5: which I'm looking forward to. So I'm there basically to

1728
01:36:46,535 --> 01:36:50,415
Speaker 5: facilitate a series of little workshops where people who are

1729
01:36:50,495 --> 01:36:54,735
Speaker 5: interested in pool regulations and pools and so on can

1730
01:36:54,815 --> 01:36:56,695
Speaker 5: find out a bit more information because this is going

1731
01:36:56,735 --> 01:37:00,095
Speaker 5: to be on at the Pool Spa Life Expo, which

1732
01:37:00,175 --> 01:37:03,015
Speaker 5: is on next Saturday and Sunday at the Auckland Showground,

1733
01:37:03,135 --> 01:37:06,015
Speaker 5: So I'll be hanging around there. I'll be facilitating these

1734
01:37:06,015 --> 01:37:09,255
Speaker 5: discs ushans. But also if you're interested in polls and

1735
01:37:09,295 --> 01:37:12,095
Speaker 5: spars and those sorts of things, come along to the expo.

1736
01:37:12,215 --> 01:37:14,215
Speaker 5: All of the big supplies will be there. Chance to

1737
01:37:14,455 --> 01:37:16,695
Speaker 5: check it out and maybe have a catch up with

1738
01:37:16,815 --> 01:37:20,815
Speaker 5: me as well, So Paul spa Life Expo next Saturday

1739
01:37:20,935 --> 01:37:24,255
Speaker 5: and Sunday the Auckland Showgrounds. I'm just looking up the

1740
01:37:24,335 --> 01:37:27,055
Speaker 5: clock saying, oh, that's right, it's daylight saving today. It

1741
01:37:27,135 --> 01:37:29,375
Speaker 5: doesn't quite have the impact, does it. Well, you don't

1742
01:37:29,415 --> 01:37:31,895
Speaker 5: have to wander around the house changing all the clocks

1743
01:37:32,015 --> 01:37:35,135
Speaker 5: and be really worried that your alarm won't go off

1744
01:37:35,535 --> 01:37:37,695
Speaker 5: in time. So for me who gets up at just

1745
01:37:37,815 --> 01:37:40,935
Speaker 5: after five o'clock on a Sunday morning, it's like, did

1746
01:37:41,015 --> 01:37:43,255
Speaker 5: I put my clock forward in time for it to

1747
01:37:43,335 --> 01:37:45,695
Speaker 5: go off? Of course, it's all automatic now and because

1748
01:37:45,735 --> 01:37:48,575
Speaker 5: we don't have a good old fashioned analog clock in

1749
01:37:48,615 --> 01:37:51,535
Speaker 5: the studio. It was always my job here at Newsts

1750
01:37:51,535 --> 01:37:54,575
Speaker 5: he'd be on a Sunday of daylight saving at both

1751
01:37:54,695 --> 01:37:56,175
Speaker 5: ends of the year to get up stand on a

1752
01:37:56,615 --> 01:37:59,495
Speaker 5: swiveling chair, which is there's got to be some health

1753
01:37:59,535 --> 01:38:02,615
Speaker 5: and safety regulations about that. Get the clock down, change

1754
01:38:02,655 --> 01:38:05,575
Speaker 5: the time, put it back up again. But we've gone digital.

1755
01:38:05,815 --> 01:38:08,655
Speaker 5: It's all flash nowadays. In the studio it is eight

1756
01:38:08,735 --> 01:38:11,295
Speaker 5: twenty four Rod, good morning.

1757
01:38:11,775 --> 01:38:16,055
Speaker 7: Good morning Peat. Great problem we've got is we've got

1758
01:38:16,095 --> 01:38:20,575
Speaker 7: a big covered canopy on the house which carries probably

1759
01:38:20,655 --> 01:38:23,215
Speaker 7: half The roof is like a six meters by eight meters.

1760
01:38:24,415 --> 01:38:27,655
Speaker 7: It's the main roof going out has three main posts

1761
01:38:27,735 --> 01:38:31,455
Speaker 7: that hold it. We've been in the house about ten years.

1762
01:38:31,495 --> 01:38:35,135
Speaker 7: The house is twenty years old. Where these posts meet

1763
01:38:35,215 --> 01:38:39,815
Speaker 7: the ground, I assumed they were well channelized timber. I

1764
01:38:39,975 --> 01:38:41,815
Speaker 7: was earth and digging and I found that they sit

1765
01:38:41,895 --> 01:38:46,095
Speaker 7: on a concrete pad with a galvanized plate sticking out

1766
01:38:46,135 --> 01:38:48,375
Speaker 7: of the pad with I assume one or two bolts

1767
01:38:48,455 --> 01:38:53,015
Speaker 7: through r the posters slotted onto them. Yep, bottoms of

1768
01:38:53,095 --> 01:38:56,735
Speaker 7: the posts are rotten. And I'm looking on the plans.

1769
01:38:56,855 --> 01:39:00,215
Speaker 7: Original plans are only three point two so they are

1770
01:39:00,295 --> 01:39:04,095
Speaker 7: not ground retention but the ground. They are probably six

1771
01:39:04,175 --> 01:39:09,055
Speaker 7: inches below ground level. Oh my, yeah, they're carrying a

1772
01:39:09,255 --> 01:39:14,895
Speaker 7: big part of the roof of the house. W Replace

1773
01:39:15,055 --> 01:39:19,935
Speaker 7: the post is going to be a memos job. Is

1774
01:39:20,015 --> 01:39:25,775
Speaker 7: there a way of cutting in or scarfing in a

1775
01:39:26,575 --> 01:39:32,015
Speaker 7: higher A post is going to survive in the ground

1776
01:39:33,215 --> 01:39:33,775
Speaker 7: further up?

1777
01:39:34,255 --> 01:39:37,495
Speaker 5: So just just confirm this for me. The picture I

1778
01:39:37,535 --> 01:39:41,415
Speaker 5: have is obviously it's a like effectively a cantilever a roof.

1779
01:39:41,495 --> 01:39:44,455
Speaker 5: The roof extends out and then the roof structure is

1780
01:39:46,975 --> 01:39:51,375
Speaker 5: a is supported on these posts. These posts go through

1781
01:39:51,535 --> 01:39:56,055
Speaker 5: the deck and then below the deck there is a

1782
01:39:56,375 --> 01:39:59,655
Speaker 5: concrete base of some description, and on top of that

1783
01:39:59,775 --> 01:40:02,495
Speaker 5: concrete base is a bracket, probably a Bomac bracket of

1784
01:40:02,575 --> 01:40:06,575
Speaker 5: some description, and the post locks into that and is

1785
01:40:06,655 --> 01:40:07,335
Speaker 5: bolted through.

1786
01:40:08,415 --> 01:40:09,975
Speaker 7: So it's just a flat plate coming out of the

1787
01:40:10,055 --> 01:40:10,775
Speaker 7: concrete base.

1788
01:40:10,975 --> 01:40:11,175
Speaker 5: Yep.

1789
01:40:11,575 --> 01:40:13,535
Speaker 7: And there's a slot in the bottom of the post.

1790
01:40:14,415 --> 01:40:15,735
Speaker 7: On the other side of the house, we've got a

1791
01:40:15,775 --> 01:40:18,775
Speaker 7: big canopy, a cardboard canopy, and we can see those

1792
01:40:18,855 --> 01:40:19,695
Speaker 7: they are above ground.

1793
01:40:19,775 --> 01:40:19,975
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1794
01:40:20,055 --> 01:40:24,895
Speaker 5: Sure where that concrete pad is that should be. That

1795
01:40:24,975 --> 01:40:27,895
Speaker 5: should finish at ground level or above ground level. So

1796
01:40:27,935 --> 01:40:31,615
Speaker 5: are you saying that somehow the ground level there's soil

1797
01:40:31,735 --> 01:40:35,015
Speaker 5: or material around the bottom of that post, correct?

1798
01:40:35,335 --> 01:40:35,495
Speaker 3: Ah?

1799
01:40:35,695 --> 01:40:40,895
Speaker 7: Okay, I can't take the ground level down to exposure

1800
01:40:40,975 --> 01:40:45,015
Speaker 7: because it will create it will be probably one hundred

1801
01:40:45,055 --> 01:40:48,615
Speaker 7: and fifty below or two hundred milis below surrounding ground level.

1802
01:40:48,695 --> 01:40:51,735
Speaker 7: I can't. I can't love Yeah, sure, that's the whole

1803
01:40:51,815 --> 01:40:52,255
Speaker 7: back garden.

1804
01:40:52,775 --> 01:40:56,495
Speaker 5: Okay. Not an easy effects, but there is a fact.

1805
01:40:56,575 --> 01:40:59,175
Speaker 5: So if it was my job, I would probably look

1806
01:40:59,255 --> 01:41:03,295
Speaker 5: at probably need to get some scaffolding in stall to

1807
01:41:03,495 --> 01:41:09,015
Speaker 5: support the weight of the roof. Then can you is

1808
01:41:09,095 --> 01:41:12,055
Speaker 5: it actually practical to work underneath the deck or would

1809
01:41:12,095 --> 01:41:13,815
Speaker 5: you need to remove some of the decking boards to

1810
01:41:13,895 --> 01:41:14,655
Speaker 5: work in that space?

1811
01:41:15,895 --> 01:41:18,495
Speaker 7: That the posts are right on the outside, Okay.

1812
01:41:18,375 --> 01:41:23,535
Speaker 5: All right, so they're accessible, yea, yeah, okay, So I

1813
01:41:23,775 --> 01:41:27,015
Speaker 5: would then once the in fact, that makes supporting the

1814
01:41:27,095 --> 01:41:29,295
Speaker 5: deck a little bit the roof a bit easier, so

1815
01:41:29,415 --> 01:41:33,455
Speaker 5: support the roof. Then I would cut the posts off

1816
01:41:33,655 --> 01:41:38,775
Speaker 5: above certain height above ground level. I'd remove that existing

1817
01:41:38,855 --> 01:41:43,175
Speaker 5: Bomac bracket. I'd box up around the existing pad and

1818
01:41:43,415 --> 01:41:47,015
Speaker 5: essentially pour a column on top of it, and then

1819
01:41:47,175 --> 01:41:51,735
Speaker 5: reinstate that Bomac bracket or a similar one into that space.

1820
01:41:51,815 --> 01:41:54,135
Speaker 5: But I'd bring that concrete up say one hundred and

1821
01:41:54,215 --> 01:41:58,055
Speaker 5: fifty mili above ground level, which probably means that you've

1822
01:41:58,175 --> 01:42:01,095
Speaker 5: cut the rot off the bottom of the post as well.

1823
01:42:03,095 --> 01:42:05,655
Speaker 5: And then once i'd cut the bottom of the post off,

1824
01:42:06,375 --> 01:42:09,615
Speaker 5: eat that with a timber preservative, make sure that the

1825
01:42:09,935 --> 01:42:13,655
Speaker 5: concrete column that you've added has got fall away so

1826
01:42:13,735 --> 01:42:17,615
Speaker 5: that any moisture there sheds to the outside, reinstate the bracket,

1827
01:42:17,735 --> 01:42:19,015
Speaker 5: reinstall the post.

1828
01:42:20,255 --> 01:42:22,935
Speaker 7: So the existing bracket and coming out of the Yeah,

1829
01:42:22,975 --> 01:42:23,335
Speaker 7: I mean.

1830
01:42:23,295 --> 01:42:23,695
Speaker 11: Look.

1831
01:42:25,335 --> 01:42:27,255
Speaker 5: If the bracket's already there. You're not going to get

1832
01:42:27,255 --> 01:42:29,815
Speaker 5: it out of the concrete, right, So you'd probably just

1833
01:42:29,975 --> 01:42:32,855
Speaker 5: cast a new one on top of it. But I

1834
01:42:32,935 --> 01:42:37,295
Speaker 5: would just I'd bring that concrete column up higher so

1835
01:42:37,415 --> 01:42:40,375
Speaker 5: that it's sitting above ground. And I wonder whether what

1836
01:42:40,655 --> 01:42:43,855
Speaker 5: happened was the concrete column or those pads were poured

1837
01:42:44,295 --> 01:42:47,975
Speaker 5: and then someone else has changed the ground level and

1838
01:42:49,015 --> 01:42:51,455
Speaker 5: got that soil around the bottom of the post. And

1839
01:42:51,535 --> 01:42:54,255
Speaker 5: you're right, an H three point two post is not

1840
01:42:54,415 --> 01:42:56,335
Speaker 5: designed to sit in the ground like that.

1841
01:42:57,735 --> 01:42:57,855
Speaker 7: You know.

1842
01:42:58,055 --> 01:43:02,535
Speaker 5: H three point two is resistant to moisture above ground

1843
01:43:02,575 --> 01:43:04,935
Speaker 5: where it has an opportunity to dry out, and where

1844
01:43:04,975 --> 01:43:08,335
Speaker 5: it hasn't been able to dry out saturated constantly. That's

1845
01:43:08,335 --> 01:43:09,815
Speaker 5: where it's rotted. That's what you've seen.

1846
01:43:10,775 --> 01:43:13,655
Speaker 7: So a new concrete pair on the existing one, do

1847
01:43:13,775 --> 01:43:15,775
Speaker 7: I need to lock it in with? Yeah?

1848
01:43:15,895 --> 01:43:19,735
Speaker 5: I would drill in some starters so epoxy and some

1849
01:43:19,935 --> 01:43:24,375
Speaker 5: steel reinforcing into it, and then use some high strength

1850
01:43:24,495 --> 01:43:27,775
Speaker 5: concrete to bring that up and that will lock those

1851
01:43:27,855 --> 01:43:33,295
Speaker 5: two areas together, and then redo your bracket on top

1852
01:43:33,335 --> 01:43:33,455
Speaker 5: of that.

1853
01:43:35,335 --> 01:43:39,135
Speaker 7: I mean, I can't take the post out. The post is.

1854
01:43:40,455 --> 01:43:42,335
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, that I can see how that would be.

1855
01:43:42,615 --> 01:43:45,175
Speaker 5: But if you've got sufficient distance from let's say the

1856
01:43:45,295 --> 01:43:47,535
Speaker 5: top of the deck to the under to the top

1857
01:43:47,615 --> 01:43:50,335
Speaker 5: of the concrete that you can remove the rot and

1858
01:43:50,495 --> 01:43:52,855
Speaker 5: work away in that area. You know, you can be

1859
01:43:53,095 --> 01:43:55,095
Speaker 5: within millimeters of the top. As long as you can

1860
01:43:55,135 --> 01:43:57,335
Speaker 5: get the decking back down, you'll never know what happens

1861
01:43:57,415 --> 01:43:58,135
Speaker 5: below it, right.

1862
01:43:58,775 --> 01:43:59,695
Speaker 7: Yeah, I can do that.

1863
01:44:00,735 --> 01:44:03,095
Speaker 5: But when you cut the bottom of the post, make

1864
01:44:03,175 --> 01:44:06,015
Speaker 5: sure that you use a timber preservative like ProTem or

1865
01:44:07,335 --> 01:44:11,055
Speaker 5: one of the other ones to really saturate the bottom

1866
01:44:11,095 --> 01:44:14,215
Speaker 5: of that and and that you've got a clear distance

1867
01:44:14,335 --> 01:44:17,455
Speaker 5: to allow for ventilation for drying at the bottom of

1868
01:44:17,495 --> 01:44:20,015
Speaker 5: that post, so that it's not in direct contact with

1869
01:44:20,095 --> 01:44:22,055
Speaker 5: a concrete or with the ground level.

1870
01:44:22,935 --> 01:44:24,655
Speaker 7: Okay, good, thank you very much.

1871
01:44:24,735 --> 01:44:26,695
Speaker 5: But take care of that. Sounds like a decent sized job,

1872
01:44:27,695 --> 01:44:29,895
Speaker 5: not something you get done tomorrow. By the way, if

1873
01:44:29,975 --> 01:44:31,215
Speaker 5: you're thinking about that, we're.

1874
01:44:31,135 --> 01:44:33,615
Speaker 7: Still trying to put a new kitchen and at the moment, right,

1875
01:44:34,015 --> 01:44:35,735
Speaker 7: all right, weekend job.

1876
01:44:36,855 --> 01:44:38,935
Speaker 5: All right, mate, pleasure all the best. You're right, take

1877
01:44:38,975 --> 01:44:42,495
Speaker 5: care bother the and Craig greetings, Yeah.

1878
01:44:42,335 --> 01:44:46,055
Speaker 14: Good morningreg Hey, look god, I was nineteen seventies. It's

1879
01:44:46,095 --> 01:44:50,295
Speaker 14: a batch now it's hardy plank on the side eleminium windows,

1880
01:44:50,855 --> 01:44:54,695
Speaker 14: under the front of the eleminum windows. The best I

1881
01:44:54,735 --> 01:44:58,935
Speaker 14: can squabe, but it is a black foamy stuff that started.

1882
01:44:59,215 --> 01:45:01,095
Speaker 14: I've noticed the last couple of years I've been watching

1883
01:45:01,175 --> 01:45:05,255
Speaker 14: the house that's starting to come as crumbling. Basically, do

1884
01:45:05,375 --> 01:45:08,135
Speaker 14: you know what that is? It's some sort of yeah,

1885
01:45:08,615 --> 01:45:11,135
Speaker 14: to stop the air or it's obviously not water because

1886
01:45:11,135 --> 01:45:15,135
Speaker 14: it's underneath the window. Will I pull that out, strape

1887
01:45:15,175 --> 01:45:16,615
Speaker 14: that out and replace it with something.

1888
01:45:17,455 --> 01:45:19,655
Speaker 5: So do you think that it's there just to stop

1889
01:45:20,375 --> 01:45:24,575
Speaker 5: air from circulating around the window, so to stop drafts effectively?

1890
01:45:25,375 --> 01:45:28,455
Speaker 14: I think so to be what it looks like, they've yeah,

1891
01:45:28,495 --> 01:45:30,895
Speaker 14: they've cut the whole and then they've put this foamy.

1892
01:45:31,415 --> 01:45:33,135
Speaker 14: I didn't even know if to teach you out of

1893
01:45:33,135 --> 01:45:35,375
Speaker 14: a chalking gum. It just looks like fie and I've

1894
01:45:35,455 --> 01:45:37,895
Speaker 14: just pushed the window one screwed it into place, put

1895
01:45:37,935 --> 01:45:41,095
Speaker 14: all the tidied up inside. I wonder whether it's just

1896
01:45:41,175 --> 01:45:42,015
Speaker 14: reached his agent.

1897
01:45:42,775 --> 01:45:43,895
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can get.

1898
01:45:45,695 --> 01:45:45,735
Speaker 17: It.

1899
01:45:45,815 --> 01:45:48,095
Speaker 5: Sounds like that sort of single sided foam tape that

1900
01:45:48,215 --> 01:45:50,335
Speaker 5: you might put around and then you press the window

1901
01:45:50,415 --> 01:45:54,055
Speaker 5: into it. In some cases it will be helping with

1902
01:45:54,215 --> 01:45:59,175
Speaker 5: weather tightness. So if you you're not intending to take

1903
01:45:59,215 --> 01:46:02,655
Speaker 5: the window out, ah no, no, no, no to do that. Okay,

1904
01:46:03,015 --> 01:46:10,015
Speaker 5: Really it the junction between the sill effectively or the

1905
01:46:10,095 --> 01:46:13,015
Speaker 5: bottom of the window where the cladding comes up. Does

1906
01:46:13,095 --> 01:46:16,055
Speaker 5: it extend up beyond the extrusion?

1907
01:46:18,695 --> 01:46:20,655
Speaker 14: I have a decent scratch around and have a lock.

1908
01:46:22,615 --> 01:46:22,815
Speaker 4: See.

1909
01:46:23,535 --> 01:46:25,575
Speaker 5: I suppose where I'd be a little bit cautious is

1910
01:46:26,175 --> 01:46:29,495
Speaker 5: if there's not sufficient cover of the extrusion over the cladding.

1911
01:46:30,255 --> 01:46:33,895
Speaker 5: Maybe they've added that into stop water being blown up

1912
01:46:33,935 --> 01:46:36,855
Speaker 5: there or wind driven rain, and so if you were

1913
01:46:36,935 --> 01:46:40,775
Speaker 5: to remove it, you've potentially allowed water to be pushed

1914
01:46:40,815 --> 01:46:43,695
Speaker 5: up and over the cladding and into the building itself.

1915
01:46:45,015 --> 01:46:47,495
Speaker 5: So I'd be ready, and I really you know that

1916
01:46:47,615 --> 01:46:49,975
Speaker 5: we should really see some sort of sill flashing in

1917
01:46:50,135 --> 01:46:53,135
Speaker 5: there as well. If that's missing and you go and

1918
01:46:53,255 --> 01:47:00,055
Speaker 5: rip out the foam, unintended consequences, right. The other thing

1919
01:47:00,135 --> 01:47:04,135
Speaker 5: is it might also allow for a bit of drainage,

1920
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Speaker 5: in which case if you fill it up with silicon

1921
01:47:06,735 --> 01:47:10,815
Speaker 5: and you stop that drainage, you also cause problems potentially.

1922
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Speaker 9: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 10: Okay, So what do we do?

1924
01:47:17,855 --> 01:47:20,215
Speaker 5: So what's happening? Is it's just decaying and dropping out.

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01:47:20,855 --> 01:47:23,615
Speaker 14: Basically, that's just when on water basking around the side

1926
01:47:23,615 --> 01:47:25,575
Speaker 14: of the house, and then it's just that you'll see

1927
01:47:25,655 --> 01:47:26,415
Speaker 14: just starting to pull them.

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Speaker 5: This is a simple answer to stop water blasting. Well,

1929
01:47:33,455 --> 01:47:41,415
Speaker 5: I mean, everybody loves water blasting, but it can be devastating. Look,

1930
01:47:41,495 --> 01:47:43,735
Speaker 5: I think, have a look at how far up the

1931
01:47:43,815 --> 01:47:47,375
Speaker 5: cladding extends beyond the extrusion on that that lip at

1932
01:47:47,415 --> 01:47:50,295
Speaker 5: the bottom yep. And if it looks like it's gone

1933
01:47:50,375 --> 01:47:54,855
Speaker 5: up a reasonable way minimum fifteen millimeters, ideally twenty mili,

1934
01:47:55,815 --> 01:47:58,215
Speaker 5: then I think it's probably low rist to say you

1935
01:47:58,255 --> 01:48:01,095
Speaker 5: could cut out that existing foam, mask it off and

1936
01:48:01,215 --> 01:48:04,895
Speaker 5: do a bead of sealant around there underneath it. Then

1937
01:48:05,455 --> 01:48:07,415
Speaker 5: the other thing to check if you can on the

1938
01:48:07,495 --> 01:48:10,255
Speaker 5: inside of your windows, have a look at the extrusion

1939
01:48:10,415 --> 01:48:14,335
Speaker 5: and see whether there's some drainage holes right that allow condensation.

1940
01:48:14,855 --> 01:48:17,175
Speaker 5: And tip a little bit of water into into that

1941
01:48:17,335 --> 01:48:20,335
Speaker 5: drainage channel and see where it comes out. If it's

1942
01:48:20,415 --> 01:48:23,975
Speaker 5: coming out underneath the extrusion, don't fill that gap up.

1943
01:48:24,295 --> 01:48:26,575
Speaker 5: If it's coming out over the face of the extrusion,

1944
01:48:26,615 --> 01:48:30,495
Speaker 5: you can see it exiting, then you could you know,

1945
01:48:30,815 --> 01:48:32,935
Speaker 5: I'd feel more comfortable about filling that gap up at

1946
01:48:32,935 --> 01:48:35,895
Speaker 5: the bottom of cap All right, yep, all the best, buddy,

1947
01:48:36,215 --> 01:48:39,735
Speaker 5: Take care by Jarl. It sounds like one of those

1948
01:48:39,735 --> 01:48:41,695
Speaker 5: classics where I've got the batch, but all I do

1949
01:48:41,815 --> 01:48:43,775
Speaker 5: is go there and work on it, as opposed to

1950
01:48:43,815 --> 01:48:45,975
Speaker 5: go there and relax and read a good book eight

1951
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Speaker 5: thirty five Your New Stalks. He'd be back in a.

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