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Speaker 1: Then twenty five minutes later from six on news Talk ZMB,

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Speaker 1: I'll explain this music in just a second.

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Speaker 2: Lots of feedback on the pregnancy on the plane thing.

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Speaker 2: A woman gave birth. I hope she's okay. It did.

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Speaker 1: The article did say that she was okay and was

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Speaker 1: being transferred to hospital with baby, but gave birth on

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Speaker 1: the plane.

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Speaker 2: I was just asking, are you mean to fly with

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Speaker 2: the baby on the plane?

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Speaker 1: And a lot of mums have got in touch to

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Speaker 1: say basically, it depends on how pregnant you are, so

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Speaker 1: it would be entirely up to up to that and

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Speaker 1: up to your doctor as well. Right time has just

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Speaker 1: gone twenty five minutes away from six. Now that music

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Speaker 1: we were playing is the White Lotus, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about the White Lotus effect. Apparently it's influencing

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Speaker 1: the way that people are traveling all around the world.

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Speaker 1: This is the HBO show. It's a dark comedy dominating

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Speaker 1: our screens. One of the biggest TV shows in the

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Speaker 1: world period, and people are flocking to Thailand.

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Speaker 2: Where the show has been filmed.

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Speaker 1: Finney has added extra weekly fights to poo Quitt and hotels.

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Speaker 2: Dot Com has reported of forty percent Spike in bookings.

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Speaker 2: Dave Bernard is the show's executive producer.

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Speaker 1: And he's with us. Hi, Dave, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for being on our program here in New Zealand. And

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Speaker 1: how do you feel season three is going?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean feel very you know, I think we

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Speaker 3: I think I speak for everyone, very fortunate, feel very

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Speaker 3: fortunate and lucky that you know, the fans have responded

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Speaker 3: to the season and seem to be finding this season.

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Speaker 3: And for me, the thing I'm most excited about is,

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Speaker 3: you know, people have no idea what's to come.

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Speaker 2: It gets so much.

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Speaker 3: Crazier, so much bigger, and so much more demonic in

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Speaker 3: a really exciting way. And so I'm really really excited

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Speaker 3: for people to, you know, hopefully stick with the show

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Speaker 3: and the season and see what's to come.

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Speaker 1: So much of the chat around the show is always

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Speaker 1: where it's filmed, and you've gone with obviously with Thailand

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Speaker 1: beautiful place, and and why why Thailand?

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Speaker 2: What? What did?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: Gets that across the line.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, we we we knew this season

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Speaker 3: we wanted to tackle kind of Eastern philosophy, you know,

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Speaker 3: take religion being the kind of container of the season

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Speaker 3: and East versus West. And so when we went out

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Speaker 3: to scout, we were thinking Japan. Originally we were we

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Speaker 3: were pretty certain it was gonna be Japan, and HBO

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Speaker 3: kind of just said, you know what, check out one

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Speaker 3: other country as a courtesy, and Thailand was the one

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Speaker 3: country that kind of made sense weatherwise, made sense with

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Speaker 3: the rebate, made sense with crew, all that stuff. And

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Speaker 3: so we went to Thailand just had as a courtesy

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Speaker 3: to HBO. And I mean, the real story of what

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Speaker 3: happened is just the more time we spent in Thailand,

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Speaker 3: the more we fell in love with the country. And

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Speaker 3: Mike White ended up getting bronchitis while we were in Thailand.

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Speaker 3: We were in the north and Chang Mai, and he

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Speaker 3: ended up in the hospital. And you know, the nurses

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Speaker 3: there that the people of Thailand are such a it's

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Speaker 3: such a such a gentle, caring, warm culture to you know,

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Speaker 3: your your neighbor and also to strangers. And they took

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Speaker 3: such good care of him, and they gave him a

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Speaker 3: thing called a nebulizer, which is a really strong steroid

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Speaker 3: to deal with bronchitis. And he ended up being awake

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Speaker 3: for two days and he ended and he hallucinated the

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Speaker 3: of the hospital. He said to me, he goes, I

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Speaker 3: haven't something in two days, and I have these incredible hallucinations.

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Speaker 3: And he told me what he dreamt and that is

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Speaker 3: basically what we shot. And I think by the time

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Speaker 3: we left Thailand to go to Japan, we just knew

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Thailand's tourism industry thanks his Broncntiest. Then how

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Speaker 1: do you you mentioned the rebake?

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Speaker 2: What is the rebate?

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Speaker 1: Because I guess everyone in New Zealand we'll be asking

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Speaker 1: why didn't you come here where you know we we

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Speaker 1: love tom here, We've got a film rebate of twenty

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Speaker 2: Well did you consider it?

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Speaker 3: Well, now, well, you know, we you know, like Buddhism

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Speaker 3: But I think that was that was that was more

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Speaker 3: I love, we love New Zealand. We I've worked with

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Speaker 3: we'd be lucky to be shooting in New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Just more generally. Obviously you're an executive producer, you're you know,

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Speaker 1: Hollywood big wig big wig type. What do what do

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Speaker 1: you need to see on paper before you would consider

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Speaker 1: coming to a place like New Zealand? You know, like,

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Speaker 1: what are the most important things? Obviously you've said in

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Speaker 1: this case it was the you know, the religion, the

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Speaker 1: comes down to business in New Zealand, we're having quite

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Speaker 1: a big debate about how we attract more films and

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Speaker 1: more productions here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what are the things you look for?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think you know, if it's white little specific,

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Speaker 3: the the subject matter of the of the season is

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Speaker 3: always going to kind of drive us in terms of

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Speaker 3: what countries we're looking at. And you know, season two

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Speaker 3: really Italy and France and those were two countries that

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Speaker 3: kind of it made sense for us story wise. I

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Speaker 3: think just kind of on a broader sense if you're looking,

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Speaker 3: you know, and I've shot all over the world. Really,

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Speaker 3: I mean, those tax rebates are a big driver for

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Speaker 3: productions because you know, there's an inherent cost to fly

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Speaker 3: per diem. So the tax credit has to make sense

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Speaker 3: to then pay the cost of traveling everyone outside of

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Speaker 3: think for I speak for most producers. I think when

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Speaker 3: I say it's that, it's that hard number, that that

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Speaker 3: tax rebate number that's really going to drive production. Like,

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Speaker 3: for an example, you know, Italy had a forty percent rebate.

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Speaker 3: I did a movie with Sidney Sweeney called Immaculate. You know,

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Speaker 3: we ended up shooting it in Italy. That forty percent

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Speaker 3: rebate was a big you know, probably was a big

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Speaker 3: deciding factor of why we went to Italy to shoot it.

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Speaker 1: Wow, So it really doesn't matter. Do we need to

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Speaker 1: up our game in from twenty percent?

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Speaker 2: Possibly?

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Speaker 3: Possibly? But in obviously New Zealand is so you know,

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Speaker 3: just like I haven't been there, but I've seen plenty

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Speaker 3: of images. It's such a beautiful country and beautiful landscapes,

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Speaker 3: and and I know and again I know the crew

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Speaker 3: there is great and so for me it's like I think,

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Speaker 3: if if that rebate was upped in suddenly, you know,

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Speaker 3: Western or whatever European producers kind of saw that number

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Speaker 3: on a on a sheet of paper, I bet you

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Speaker 3: we would attract more attention interesting stuff.

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Speaker 1: Dve, thank you sent out for that. And maybe that

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Speaker 1: is season four of the White Lighters here in New

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Speaker 1: in and Dave Bernard, who's executive producer of The White

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Speaker 1: Load is probably the biggest TV show in the world

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