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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can try to ask the questions,

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Speaker 1: get the answers, find the faack and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Heather duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand and the

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Speaker 1: power of satellite mobile news.

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Speaker 2: Doorgs be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today. Transport Minister

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Speaker 3: Chris Bishop on whether he will be scrapping the clean

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Speaker 3: car standards. Judith Collins, the Defense Minister, on those flights

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Speaker 3: for Key we stuck in the Middle East and we'll

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Speaker 3: have a chat to an expert about how much of

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Speaker 3: a threat terrorism wise, teenage boys.

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Speaker 2: Really are Heather duplicy Ellen. Right.

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Speaker 3: So, the latest climate drama involving this government is that

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Speaker 3: they're being accused of lining up to scrap the clean

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Speaker 3: car standards altogether. And I would say to the EV

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Speaker 3: lobby group pushing this line that they may want to

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Speaker 3: just settle down about this. Even those of us and

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Speaker 3: I'm looking straight at me here, even those of us

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Speaker 3: who want to see the clean car standards dropped all together,

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Speaker 3: do not think it's going to happen, because that would

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Speaker 3: take political courage that I do not think this government

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Speaker 3: has on a subt like this in an election year. Now,

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Speaker 3: what I'm talking about here. If you don't follow all

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Speaker 3: of the details here, this is the twin of the

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Speaker 3: ute tax, right, This is the other part of that

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Speaker 3: policy that was brought in at the same time. It's

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Speaker 3: a penalty that importers have to pay for every dirty

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Speaker 3: car that they bring into this country in the hope

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Speaker 3: that it will encourage them to instead go for the

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Speaker 3: cleaner cars, the evs, And it was recently dropped right

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Speaker 3: down at the end of the year and it's up

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Speaker 3: for consultation at the moment. The government is considering overhauling

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Speaker 3: the system.

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Speaker 4: So one of the.

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Speaker 3: Questions being asked in the consultation is should it just

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Speaker 3: be abolished altogether? Now, I'd love it to be because

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Speaker 3: it hasn't worked, because we actually as consumers, do not

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Speaker 3: want to buy that many evs in this country. The

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Speaker 3: only thing that the standard has done is to drop

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Speaker 3: the number of Japanese cars, which we love, coming into

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Speaker 3: the country in the last five years, from one hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty thousand a year to ninety thousand a year.

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Speaker 3: That's down forty five percent. And apparently most of this,

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Speaker 3: according to the dealers, is because of the clean car standard,

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Speaker 3: and you do not have to be a rocket scientist

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Speaker 3: to figure out what that does to prices. If you're

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Speaker 3: bringing and so many fewer, what happens to prices? That's right,

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Speaker 3: they go up? Hopey? Is that? That's right? Me and

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Speaker 3: you Ana love that.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: The other thing that it does is it forced two

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Speaker 3: hundred and forty four dealers just last year to shut

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Speaker 3: down because they couldn't get enough cars. So I'd love

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Speaker 3: to see the standard scrapped. It's only making our cars

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Speaker 3: more expensive, it's only putting people out of business, and

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Speaker 3: as we know, it's actually going to do nothing for

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Speaker 3: the climate because New Zealand is insignificant in the scheme

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Speaker 3: of global emissions. But it will not be scrapped because

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Speaker 3: every other developed nation apart from Russia, is applying standards

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Speaker 3: like this, so we'll be stuck playing the game too.

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Speaker 3: Should it be a should it be abolished? I'm sorry

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Speaker 3: to say, is just a question to make the government

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Speaker 3: look like it's considering everything, but it is not actually

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Speaker 3: considering everything, and we're probably stuck with.

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Speaker 2: This ever due for see Allen.

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Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two. Standard tech SPE's applying Chris Bishops

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Speaker 3: with us after five o'clock. Now to the ongoing issue

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Speaker 3: of school buses being cut. A rural school bus review

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Speaker 3: has some parents facing our long drives just to get

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Speaker 3: the kiddies to school. In the Gisbane area. More than

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Speaker 3: one hundred students could be affected. And one of the

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Speaker 3: parents there is Toby Williams who's with us now, Hi, Toby, Hi,

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Speaker 3: Heather Okay said, what's going on in your situation?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So there's been a review going on for about

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Speaker 6: eighteen months from the Ministry of Education's Transports vision around

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Speaker 6: the eligibility of kids for going to school and the

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Speaker 6: Gisman reviews just come through and they've scaled the buses

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Speaker 6: right back and it's really affecting our rural kids and

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Speaker 6: we can't get our kids to school now, you know,

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Speaker 6: and efficiently without sort of taking them ourselves. And for me,

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Speaker 6: there'd been our during the each day, each way, each

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Speaker 7: Them into there.

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Speaker 6: So rumined the productivity on my farm to try to

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Speaker 3: So the school bus a your school bus has been

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Speaker 3: cut or scaled back?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, our school bus has been scaled back, is that man?

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Speaker 6: So they've shortened the area. So I used to drive

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Speaker 6: past our gates, our kids have bike two k's down

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Speaker 6: main road. Now that option isn't there anymore. We've got

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Speaker 6: to put them in a car and drive them either

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Speaker 6: to town and then and drive home again. And there

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Speaker 6: are other rural areas have been done, so they've sort

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Speaker 6: of turtled the entire bus route in so you're picking

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Speaker 6: out more urban kids but less rural kids.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and so is this basically is it a supplying

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Speaker 3: demand thing that there weren't that many kids catching this

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Speaker 3: particular that the bus on this particular route near your house.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's forty five kids that utilize their bus that

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Speaker 6: goes past our gate.

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Speaker 7: We've done a survey of the community from the pick

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Speaker 6: Some parents bring their kids in, you know, from relatively

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Speaker 6: you know, from half an hour away to that bus

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Speaker 6: stop to save them in that you know, an hour

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Speaker 6: and a half juney to town.

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Speaker 3: It seems a lot, Toby, how many how many would

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Speaker 3: it take? How many kids would it take to make

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Speaker 3: the bus run?

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Speaker 6: Well, that's what we're going through with go Bus. At

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Speaker 6: the moment, our local bus companies. How do we actually

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Speaker 6: fund this ourselves as a community at the ministry is

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Speaker 6: now not going to Would.

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Speaker 3: You be prepared?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we are, That's that's a question we asked the community,

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Speaker 6: and we need to get a rice back from the

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Speaker 7: But we've got seven weeks to sort this out.

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Speaker 6: We've been told last week that on the first day

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Speaker 6: of term two that bus is no longer going to

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Speaker 6: be there and you have to have you know, your

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Speaker 6: kids have to find a way to school some other

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Speaker 6: this and to be fair to the ministry, the government's

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Speaker 6: reviewing this at the moment, but what we're asking for

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Speaker 6: is them to pause these reviews, pause the rollout of

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Speaker 6: the review while we're looking at the policy as a whole.

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Speaker 6: So get the Ministry of Ministry of Education Transport Division

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Speaker 6: to stop the changes until maybe the end of the

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Speaker 6: looks like and the schools.

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Speaker 7: And our parents.

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Speaker 3: To be fair, I mean, how long do you guys,

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Speaker 3: how long do you actually really need to make a

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Speaker 3: decision on this? I mean, surely it's as simple as

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Speaker 3: you call the bus company, you go how much does

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Speaker 3: it cost for you to do this thing? And then

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Speaker 3: you split it between the parents who want to use it.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't take all year.

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Speaker 7: No, it doesn't take all year. But we're working with

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Speaker 7: the schools on this as well, and there's some lead

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Speaker 7: in time for the parents to understand this.

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Speaker 6: People in our community who can't afford that the moment's

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Speaker 6: been a free bus and parts of ADU.

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Speaker 3: So Toby, am I right in thinking that actually you

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Speaker 3: want to pause it so you can lobby against it.

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Speaker 6: No, we're not lobbying against it at all, because I've

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Speaker 6: been one of the federated farmers. We're lobbying for this

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Speaker 6: review to happen and providing some changes of what looked

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Speaker 6: like and that was cost sharing with the communities to

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Speaker 6: make sure we had the excess there. At the moment,

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Speaker 6: we've got parents now saying that their kids aren't going

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Speaker 6: to be going to school on some days because it's

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Speaker 6: not worth them taking them to school.

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Speaker 3: How much does it? How much do you reckon it's

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Speaker 3: going to end up costing each family?

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Speaker 8: I can't.

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Speaker 7: I don't know that at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Then how do we know our parents won't be able

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Speaker 6: Well, I've surveyed them and asked would affordability of a

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Speaker 6: bus be a concern for you? And about quarter of

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Speaker 6: the suve has come back saying yes that it would be.

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Speaker 6: It's also the fact that the bus and so some

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Speaker 6: of our days of school has only half a day,

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Speaker 6: so there's you know, trying to fetter it in around

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Speaker 3: Actually, do you know what I wonder? I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 3: it seems to me the solution probably does lie on

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Speaker 3: you guys having to fund it yourselves, unfortunately. But I imagine

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Speaker 3: that this is actually going to pose a bigger because

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Speaker 3: to pose a problem for rural communities where it must

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Speaker 3: be hard to get people working on your farm if

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Speaker 7: Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 6: One of the big drawer cards of having a farm

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Speaker 6: having a bus go past your gate is you can

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Speaker 6: say to people, hey, look, high school bus or primary

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Speaker 6: school bus go is passed by gate, and you don't

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Speaker 6: have to fork out private school fees to get your

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Speaker 7: The Act, you know, was a nineteen eight act.

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Speaker 6: This has been based on and it's been looking to

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Speaker 6: be modernized, and we think there needs to be some

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Speaker 6: consultation around the modernizing with communities and schools figure out

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Speaker 6: how can we cost you it because no one's asking

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Speaker 6: for a guaranteed free bus that's unrealistic in the climate.

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Speaker 6: But how do we actually make sure we've got the

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Speaker 6: excess first? And communities are consulted on this and that's

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Speaker 6: what's not happening.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Toby, it's good to talk to you mate. Good

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Speaker 3: luck with sorting this one out. Toby Williams, Gisbon Farmer.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but I think that I

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Speaker 3: think we're going to have to start paying for this

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Speaker 3: kind of thing ourselves if we live out in rural communities.

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Speaker 3: What do you think. I don't think that. I don't

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Speaker 3: like I think it's getting to the point where we

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Speaker 3: can't because this kind of stuff is going to crop

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Speaker 3: up time and time again in different guys. Is right,

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Speaker 3: it's a school bus today, it's going to be something else.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a road tomorrow. It's going to

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Speaker 3: be an electricity line another day. And if you're the

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Speaker 3: only punter out there and we're doing something special for

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Speaker 3: like five people, surely you're going to have to pay

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Speaker 3: for it yourselves. I would have thought. Look on the

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Speaker 3: business with Iran, he's an update for you. It looks

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Speaker 3: like the Kurds have crossed the border from Iraq to

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Speaker 3: fight in Iran. They say they're doing this because the

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Speaker 3: US has got in touch with them and ask for support,

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Speaker 3: and the US has said that it's ready to provide

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Speaker 3: air support if the Kurdish fighters do cross the border.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of mixed messages. Some are saying they haven't

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Speaker 3: done it, some are saying they have already crossed. But

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Speaker 3: by the looks of things, these are the boots on

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Speaker 9: What if Dave Rennie ends up beating up on the

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Speaker 9: He said, he got feedback, but he's not going to

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, Hey, Darcy, thank you as always.

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Speaker 9: Hey, Eddie Jones is on the show tonight. Oh my god,

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Speaker 9: Talked to Slave Griffin as well, assistant coach.

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Speaker 1: Your home for the big names in sports. It's the

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Speaker 10: Why sometimes for environments don't bring out the best in people.

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Speaker 5: The Warriors are back.

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Speaker 12: This is our year twenty twenty six. Coach Andrew Webster's back.

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Speaker 3: Really quickly, here are some numbers on fill fin Allen

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Speaker 13: Create what happened to be where you live, mister Seymour,

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Speaker 2: Cutting through the noise to get the facts.

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Speaker 2: It's the world wires on youth talks. They'd be drive.

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Speaker 9: Tremendous progress is being made. Their missiles are being wiped

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Speaker 17: allies and finally.

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Speaker 9: Witness the greatest cover up in human history.

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Speaker 3: An Italian researcher reckons she's found some archival documents that

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Speaker 3: claim that Michaelangelo had several artworks in a secret room

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Speaker 3: before his death. Apparently, he was so determined to ensure

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Speaker 3: his nephew didn't inherit all his works that he squirreled

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Speaker 3: some away in a hidden room in Rome. Now, before

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Speaker 3: you book yourself a ticket to Rome to go and

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Speaker 3: find the lost paintings. This particular researcher's work has not

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Speaker 3: yet been peer reviewed.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business Murray.

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Speaker 8: Old's Ossie correspondents with us A muss, very good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 3: How's the CARNIEVI? Isit going?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, look pretty well. I think looks it was always

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Speaker 8: going to go well. I suspect him. And there's a

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Speaker 8: bit of a bromance between mister Kearney and Albanezi. And

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Speaker 8: you know, I think it was underlined by Mark Carney

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Speaker 8: when he addressed the Parliament. It was a pretty somber warning.

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Speaker 8: I think about the demise as he sees it, of

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Speaker 8: the global architecture that's really sort of helped the thing

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Speaker 8: together since the end of the Second World War. He

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Speaker 8: says that he told Parliament that the global architecture is

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Speaker 8: breaking down the weight of crisis after crisis. He said,

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Speaker 8: Canada and Australia helped build the post war world and

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Speaker 8: delivered you know, global prosperity. But that's under threat, he says,

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Speaker 8: like never before. But he has expressed confidence that countries

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Speaker 8: like Canada, like Australia, those middle powers. He referred to

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Speaker 8: member that terrific line about if you're not at the table,

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Speaker 8: you're going to be lunch. He says that you know

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Speaker 8: that nations like Canada, like Australia, I guess like New

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Speaker 8: Zealand as well, can lead the way in repairing what's

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Speaker 8: left of the world order. He spoke of very strong ties,

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Speaker 8: both proud democracies that navigate the world and share the

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Speaker 8: same values and a common heritage, a common perspective, and

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Speaker 8: he says we can build a common future. So I think,

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Speaker 8: all in all, it's been a pretty successful visit here

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Speaker 8: for the Canadian Prime Minister, and I think to a

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Speaker 8: lot of a strangers saying bloody good he stood up

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Speaker 8: the Trump and gave him both barrels.

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Speaker 3: I see you've got the first couple of hundred of

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Speaker 3: your lot back from the Middle East.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they got in last night, and I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 8: they were very very happy to get in, and so

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Speaker 8: were their loved ones and their families. But that leaves

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Speaker 8: about one hundred and fourteen one hundred and fourteen and

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Speaker 8: a half thousand. Ossie's still up there, and we understand

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Speaker 8: this afternoon that the Australian Defense Force is drawing up

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Speaker 8: plans to go and get them if they have to.

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Speaker 8: Penny Wong, the Foreign Minister, is still saying listen, commercial

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Speaker 8: flights remain the best option. We've had one out last

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Speaker 8: night to Australia. Others are leaving for the much closer

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Speaker 8: ports up in Europe. Of course, it's not an easy

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Speaker 8: thing to bring people in military aircraft down from the

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Speaker 8: Middle East to Australia. I mean it's a long, long way.

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Speaker 8: It's like in a Hercules. Goodness me, you have to

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Speaker 8: stop that three times, I suspect. But in any event,

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Speaker 8: they've got crisis teams up there right now. They left

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Speaker 8: I think yesterday up there to help local consular staff

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Speaker 8: try and make some sense out of what's happening, because

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Speaker 8: all these people want to get out. Aviation experts are warning,

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Speaker 8: by the way, that Australians just postpone any European travel

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Speaker 8: plans for five or six months because it's going to

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Speaker 8: be a mess. There's going to be all sorts of

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Speaker 8: potentially very expensive trips that might have to be canceled

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Speaker 8: because if war breaks out, you're not covered by travel insurance.

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Speaker 8: So you've done so if you've bought you know, tickets,

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Speaker 8: imagine buying business class flights to and from Europe will

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Speaker 8: be twenty thousand dollars and you've kissed that money. Good

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Speaker 8: buy if there's more conflicts. So they're saying hang on,

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Speaker 8: Penny Wong saying hang on. They're all saying we're doing

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Speaker 8: our best, and the Australian government is, as I say,

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Speaker 8: scrambling consular staff to fly to the Middle East, fly

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Speaker 8: into trouble. If you like to try and make some

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Speaker 8: sort of sense on the ground for all the osies,

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Speaker 8: for all the Australians who.

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Speaker 3: Are there, can you explain to me this business about

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Speaker 3: the school telling the kids, filming the kids going into

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Speaker 3: the toilets and whether this is okay.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well the parents seem to think it's okay. The

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Speaker 8: School of Saint Wrunga, which is up in northern Sydney

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Speaker 8: now recently Saint Leo's spent a great deal of money

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Speaker 8: refurbishing bathrooms for the kids. And it's a private school,

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Speaker 8: they can do it. They're like, there's no CCTV inside

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Speaker 8: the toilets, obviously, but there is CCTV across the school,

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Speaker 8: which I guess most schools have these days. And according

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Speaker 8: to Saint Leo's. They don't want their bathrooms to be

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Speaker 8: trashed by unrule these students, because they've spent a lot

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Speaker 8: of money on them. And what they're doing is monitoring

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Speaker 8: kids who go to the bathrooms during class time. All right.

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Speaker 8: I mean it sounds like there are teachers on duty

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Speaker 8: when the you know, it might be morning recess or lunchtime,

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Speaker 8: afternoon tea time or whatever, there are going to be

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Speaker 8: staff there patrolling the place looking at, you know, just

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Speaker 8: where the kids are and what are they doing. You

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Speaker 8: can't do that, of course when teachers are actually tea.

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Speaker 8: So if these kids are going to the bathroom heaving

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Speaker 8: toilet rolls around, shoving toilet rolls down the toilets and

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Speaker 8: some blocking them up, the school says bugger that. And

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Speaker 8: most parents have said, you know what, we're entirely on

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Speaker 8: your side. We don't want little Johnny coming home with

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Speaker 8: a detention because he's bummed up the bog. And I think,

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Speaker 8: you know, I think the school's getting thumbs up from

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Speaker 8: most parents.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, brilliant, good to hear, Maz, thanks very much, look

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Speaker 3: after yourself. Murrayo Old's Australia correspondent. I reckon that this

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Speaker 3: has got to be the most awkward thing of politicians

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Speaker 3: done in the last twenty four hours. This is the

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Speaker 3: Australian Shadow Treasurer Tim Wilson in the Aussie Parliament.

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Speaker 15: There's a Billy Joel song that sounds kind of relevant.

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Speaker 7: Do to Do To Do The treasure did start the

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Speaker 7: inflation fire.

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Speaker 6: The inflation's burning while the Treasurer is squirming.

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Speaker 15: The treasure did start inflation fire.

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Speaker 16: Yes, I.

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Speaker 7: Misorganized crime to feel.

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Speaker 3: I love that. He's like, no, I'm committed to this

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Speaker 3: when that point of order. I'm listen, you're gonna do.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love one hundred percent ten out

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Speaker 3: of ten for the idea. But get the cadence right.

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Speaker 3: Don't you reckon like you've got it. You're doing what

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Speaker 3: old mate did in love actually, and you're trying to

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Speaker 3: shove an the extra syllable into the song and it

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Speaker 3: just it's I love to start though, Do Do Do

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Speaker 3: Do Do. At least it's not one of ours embarrassing

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Speaker 3: us today. That very sobers with us.

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Speaker 1: Next politics with centrics credit check your customers and get

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Speaker 1: payment certainty.

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Speaker 3: We've just had news actually, cal Cole McConkey is going

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Speaker 3: to be with us quarter past five on just how

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Speaker 3: wonderfully the Black Claps Black Caps played last night. It's

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Speaker 3: thirteen away from five and Barry Sober, Senior Political Correspondence

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Speaker 3: with US High bearing you know how Mark Carney's in

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Speaker 3: Australia at the minute. Yes, okay, which is this? It's

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Speaker 3: speak Well, it's because he doesn't know that we exist

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Speaker 3: and I present my evidence. I present my evidence. We're

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Speaker 3: speaking to the Australian Parliament in Canberra today and said,

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Speaker 3: let us remember that Australia was the first nation in

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Speaker 3: the world to give women the right to vote and

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Speaker 3: to stand for parliament.

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Speaker 10: For goodness, take Apparently.

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Speaker 3: They don't have Chat, GPT or Google in Canada. They've

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Speaker 3: got more speech, right David Seymour. And for the Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister today.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, really interesting because as you'll be well aware that

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Speaker 10: Thursdays the Philly tame days when it comes to questions

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Speaker 10: in Parliament because the Prime Minister is not there. But

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Speaker 10: I thought David Seymour has been quite cunning today using

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Speaker 10: the absence of Chris Luckson to get patsy questions fired

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Speaker 10: of him by his own colleague Cameron Luxton. It was

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Speaker 10: Simola's way of showing how act supports some contentious issues

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Speaker 10: like liberalizing overseas investment. Of course, with the Golden Visas scheme,

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Speaker 10: which is very successful. Already three point five billion bucks

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Speaker 10: has flowed into the country, and that overseas investors will

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Speaker 10: be able to buy houses worth more than five million

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Speaker 10: bucks from tomorrow. So tomorrow's the kickoff date. I think

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Speaker 10: I'll put the full sale sign outside the house tonight.

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Speaker 10: But look, there were some other issues that seem or

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Speaker 10: reveled in while facing his colleague. Obviously pre rehearse questions

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Speaker 10: here they are.

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Speaker 18: Does he stand by removing the dual mandate of the

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Speaker 18: Reserve Bank.

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Speaker 14: Mister Speaker on behalf of the Prime Minister. Yes, absolutely.

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Speaker 14: Our government has told the Reserve Bank to focus exclusively

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Speaker 14: on controlling inflation.

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Speaker 17: Does he stand by reforming interest deductibility for landlords.

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Speaker 14: Mister Speaker on behalf of the Prime Minister. I absolutely

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Speaker 14: stand by our policy of treating people in the property

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Speaker 14: business exactly the same as every other business in the country.

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Speaker 4: Does he stand by changes to pay equity Mister.

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Speaker 14: Speaker on behalf of the Prime Minister. Absolutely.

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Speaker 7: It is still.

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Speaker 14: Possible to take an appeal if you suffer from sex

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Speaker 14: based discrimination and I say to the people on the

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Speaker 14: other side, if they don't like it and they're going

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Speaker 14: to bring pay equity back, show us the money you.

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Speaker 10: Wow, that was quite a shrewd use, though I'm not

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Speaker 10: to say because he's got all the issues that really

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Speaker 10: act will be out campaign.

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Speaker 2: It's not.

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Speaker 10: It's not like pretty boring questions.

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Speaker 3: So what I'm interested in though, were they facing questions

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Speaker 3: on TV and Z.

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Speaker 10: Yes they were today or Paul Goldsmith was that's over

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Speaker 10: the alleged buyers that we had a fairly vociferous discussion

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Speaker 10: on last week about the story that basically on the

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Speaker 10: very day that the crime rate serious assaults came down

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Speaker 10: by forty nine thousand, they simply ignored that and ran

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Speaker 10: a story about gang membership rising by three over cops

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Speaker 10: and you know, just ignoring the obvious some labors Reuben Davison, though,

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Speaker 10: he suggested Minister Paul Goldsmith had broken the law by

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Speaker 10: discussing the issue with the board chair over the weekend.

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Speaker 10: Here he is firing questions which obviously tended to explode

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Speaker 10: in my view before they hit the target. Have a listen.

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Speaker 19: Would it be appropriate for the chair of TV and

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Speaker 19: ZEN to raise the issue of one news media coverage

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Speaker 19: with the minister in.

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Speaker 13: The context of a board focusing on improving levels of

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Speaker 13: trust and the issue that's been raised, I don't have

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Speaker 13: a particularly strong view. He probably shouldn't have, but it's

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Speaker 13: certainly not a major issue.

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Speaker 19: Does he still have confidence in the man he appointed

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Speaker 19: his chair of TV and Z Andrew Barklay after he

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Speaker 19: discussed one news editorial coverage with the minister contrary to

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Speaker 19: the law.

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Speaker 13: I do have confidence in the chair. I think he's

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Speaker 13: doing a great job now. As everybody's conscious all around

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Speaker 13: the world, particularly since COVID, there have been drops in

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Speaker 13: trust in media generally, we would expect the board to

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Speaker 13: be focused on the overall effort to improve those levels

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Speaker 13: of trusting.

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Speaker 10: So there you go. I mean, it's ridiculous to suggest

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Speaker 10: that a board chairman can't wring his minister and so look,

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Speaker 10: I saw a story on television tonight. The Minister's not

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Speaker 10: going to take any action as a result of that.

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Speaker 3: That would be there, but we don't know the content

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Speaker 3: of the conversation. That's the problem.

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Speaker 10: Does it really matter.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it does, because it's not appropriate for the board

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Speaker 3: to be involved in editorial decision.

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Speaker 10: But then the minister won't become involved in editorial decisions

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Speaker 10: anyway as a result of them being told, so you

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Speaker 10: know to.

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Speaker 3: Me, but I guess what the problem with it is

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Speaker 3: that you don't know what why did the board raise

666
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Speaker 3: it with the minister who had already complained to TV

667
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Speaker 3: and zed what was the board's interest in raising it?

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Speaker 3: It just opens up too many questions. Having said that, though,

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Speaker 3: can I say it's very hard to feel upset about

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Speaker 3: all of this when actually the worst thing that's happened

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Speaker 3: here is not the phone call. It's the bloody story.

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Speaker 10: Cost The story was a shock, And I think if

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Speaker 10: I was sitting on the board at TV and Z,

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Speaker 10: I'd be pretty hosed off. I wouldn't, I'd stop. Sure, Yeah,

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Speaker 10: because the law see it.

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Speaker 3: So if it was awesome journalists, if it was awesome journalism,

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Speaker 3: that the board was suddenly involving itself, and I think

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Speaker 3: we'd all be a little bit more upset about it.

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Speaker 3: But the boards itself involving itself and some apparently some

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Speaker 3: pretty cruddy journalism, rightly, Okay, Barry Listen, thanks very much,

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Speaker 3: appreciate it, very so. For Senior Political Correspondence. Seven away

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Speaker 3: from five now four away from five. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you remember this, but a couple of years back,

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Speaker 3: maybe last year, the Taxpayers Union went really hard on

685
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Speaker 3: some science funding that money that was coming out of

686
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Speaker 3: the Marsden Fund and being spent on some really dumb projects.

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Speaker 3: It was just and it was bits and bobs here,

688
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Speaker 3: like one hundred thousand, there, a couple hundred thousand, and

689
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Speaker 3: it all added up to several million. They are going

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Speaker 3: hard on this stuff again. They've got another example for you,

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Speaker 3: which is a scientific research project within Massi University that's

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Speaker 3: cost US nearly one hundred and sixty thousand dollars essentially

693
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Speaker 3: to plant a garden of kumitter. So the project's purpose

694
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Speaker 3: was the revitalization of traditional harpoo practices to observe and

695
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Speaker 3: record the deep cultural and spiritual significance that cultural practice

696
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Speaker 3: is connected with the natural world. Hold the Mara tautana

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Speaker 3: acts as a symbolic icon to enable a connection between

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Speaker 3: the spiritual world and the physical world. It is a

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Speaker 3: symbol of mildi connectedness and inseparability from the natural world.

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Speaker 3: So I had a look at it. It looks like

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Speaker 3: the committer bed looks around about I want to say

702
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Speaker 3: about the size of a queen bed like a bed

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Speaker 3: bed like a queen bed size. It's got like three

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Speaker 3: rows of kermita, it's got five white poles around it,

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Speaker 3: and then a wooden fence and a bit of garden

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Speaker 3: matting stuff. The research outcomes included a storybook, a twenty

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Speaker 3: minute cultural video and growing committer to offer to the

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Speaker 3: sky gods. Jordan Williams is not happy about this, and

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Speaker 3: he's with us on the huddle, so we'll have a

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Speaker 3: chat to him then Chris Bishop, Transport Minister.

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Speaker 2: Next.

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Speaker 18: Now I'm not sasday never met us.

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Speaker 9: Let us go yesterday.

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Speaker 18: No one shot its way here this day.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust truck to ask

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Speaker 1: there be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. There's concerned the government is lining up to scrap

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Speaker 3: the clean car standard altogether. Now this is the twin

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Speaker 3: of the ute tax. It's the other part of the

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Speaker 3: policy which charges importers if they bring in too many

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Speaker 3: vehicles that produce high carbon emissions. Chris Bishop is the

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Speaker 3: Minister of transporting with us.

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Speaker 2: Now, Hi, bish good?

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Speaker 3: Would you would you seem well, thank you? Would you

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Speaker 3: consider seriously consider scrapping it?

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Speaker 2: Well, we're having a look at it.

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Speaker 20: I mean we're doing a first principle's review of the scheme,

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Speaker 20: so sort of by definition that involves, you know, looking

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Speaker 20: at the rationale for why you need it in the

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Speaker 20: first place. Be fair to say not that many people

734
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Speaker 20: are keen on scrapping it all together. You know, we're

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Speaker 20: going through a process with industry right now, and you

736
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Speaker 20: know we do want to see cleaner cars in New

737
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Speaker 20: Zealand over time. But we're doing the first principles review

738
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Speaker 20: of the scheme and the simple reality is the old

739
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Speaker 20: version was not working. I might remember at the tail

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Speaker 20: end of last year we had to change it very

741
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Speaker 20: quickly because unless we did, the price of a whole

742
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Speaker 20: range of cars was going to very quickly rise on

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Speaker 20: the first of January this year because of the way

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Speaker 20: the scheme was working. So everyone's sort of into the

745
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Speaker 20: idea of a clean car standard so that the vehicle fleet,

746
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Speaker 20: you know, gets more fuel efficient over time and more

747
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Speaker 20: carbon friendly. But we've just got to find something that works,

748
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Speaker 20: and that's what we're doing at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Is this a case of you just having to adjust

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Speaker 3: how many emissions I suppose you tolerate before this thing

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Speaker 3: kicks in.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: So basically what happened is Labor set this very ambitious

754
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Speaker 20: scheme in place in twenty twenty one or two, and

755
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Speaker 20: you know, world leading, but that all comes with costs. Right,

756
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Speaker 20: came in in twenty twenty three and adjusted it and

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Speaker 20: brought it back more in line with comparable jurisdictions. And

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Speaker 20: as it turned out that even that was very difficult,

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Speaker 20: and we just couldn't get the supply of vehicles into

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Speaker 20: the market to the point where all the people doing

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Speaker 20: the imports we're going to face penalties as a result

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Speaker 20: of the cars they are importing. Now what does that

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Speaker 20: mean in practice? That just gets passed on to consumers. Right,

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Speaker 20: So what was going to happen unless we acted at

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Speaker 20: the end of last year was the price of a

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Speaker 20: whole range of cars that many New Zealanders would drive

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Speaker 20: and buy and rent on a daily basis would have

768
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Speaker 20: gone up quite substantially. The amount varied, and it's complicated,

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Speaker 20: but that would have gone up, There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 20: So we stopped that at the end of last year

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Speaker 20: we acted and so everyone's going on about an affordable

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Speaker 20: New Zealand, including the Labor Party.

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Speaker 2: By the way, they voted against that.

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Speaker 20: So the Labor Party voted to raise the price of

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Speaker 20: secondhand and new cars last year, and they're running the

776
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Speaker 20: slogan at the moment about how we need an affordable

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Speaker 20: in New Zealand. So they voted to make cars more

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Speaker 20: expensive last year. We've fixed that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now, So am I right in thinking that what's

780
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Speaker 3: happened here is you're going out on a first principles

781
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Speaker 3: review and going out to consultation. One of your questions

782
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Speaker 3: has to be do we get rid of the thing altogether?

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Speaker 3: The ev lobby group of how to look at that

784
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Speaker 3: and got excited. That's basically what's that's right?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, we're just looking at what's the public policy rationale

786
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Speaker 20: for it? Is it a good idea?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 20: Is there a market failure here that we need to

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Speaker 20: try and correct. So we're just we're just answered, We're

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Speaker 20: just asking the logical, sensible questions, will work our way

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Speaker 20: through it, and once we've made a decision as to

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Speaker 20: what we're going to do, well.

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Speaker 3: Hey, while I've got you, Wayne Brown says, absolutely, no

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Speaker 3: way is he giving you your maps so you can

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Speaker 3: see what the density looks like in.

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Speaker 2: All, I don't want I.

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Speaker 3: Didn't ask him for the maps.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't read on the Herald.

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Speaker 2: No I know that, but that's not accurate.

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Speaker 20: This is very frustrating that the letter I wrote to

802
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Speaker 20: him does not ask for maps. I'm happy to and

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Speaker 20: I've published the letter or the letters now online. I

804
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Speaker 20: asked for a summary of the zoning changes the government

805
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Speaker 20: would like. I did not ask for maps. Map gates over.

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Speaker 20: We've got to, you know, we've got to stop trying

807
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Speaker 20: to make map gate happen. It's not happening.

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Speaker 3: Thanks very much, Chris Bishop, Minister of Transport, Minister of

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Speaker 3: Housing and like not really an opponent of Wayne Brown

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Speaker 3: at all, honestly. Five to eleven due for cel the

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Speaker 3: government's telling kiwis in the Middle East to register on

812
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Speaker 3: safe travel and preparation of evacuation. Two Defense Force aircraft

813
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Speaker 3: will be leaving New Zealand in the coming days to

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Speaker 3: help those keys, and Judith Collins is the defenseman to

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Speaker 3: stand with us. Hi, Judith, oh, Hi, Heather, how many

816
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Speaker 3: keys do you think you're going to have to move?

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Speaker 21: Well, we know that there are around three thousand who

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Speaker 21: have registered on safe travel, which is obviously the Minister

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Speaker 21: of Foreign Affairs or in facts website, but we think

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Speaker 21: that there are probably thousands more. So that the movement

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Speaker 21: will be out of the danger zone into another country

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Speaker 21: relatively close by that is not in dangerous moment.

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Speaker 18: It won't be all the way back here.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 21: We can't bring people all the way back here now.

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Speaker 3: Could you even move from one place to a nearby

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Speaker 3: place three thousand people.

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Speaker 21: Well, if they wanted to go, we would simply have

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Speaker 21: to make it happen, but we would have to obviously

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Speaker 21: do it in relays and we have to deal with

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Speaker 21: it that way. I think you'll find quite a lot

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Speaker 21: of people will not want to move because they're based

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Speaker 21: now in the Middle East, and for those who do,

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Speaker 21: we are making this available.

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Speaker 18: Now.

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Speaker 3: How long are we preparing as a country for this

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Speaker 3: particular war that's going on at the moment to last

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Speaker 3: or we don't.

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Speaker 21: Know how long it's going to last, Heather. We haven't

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Speaker 21: been involved in the build up to it. We're not

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Speaker 21: involved in the discussions around it, we're not involved in

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Speaker 21: supplying anything for it. What we are thinking about though,

843
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Speaker 21: is that for New Zealanders who do want to leave,

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Speaker 21: that's we want to make sure we can help them

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Speaker 21: to do that if that's possible without unduly putting our

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Speaker 21: own defense people at an extreme harm's way. So and

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Speaker 21: also in fact people too, I shouldn't forget them. But

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Speaker 21: there's also the fact that we're obviously aware of the

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Speaker 21: straits of her May almost and how Iran is now

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Speaker 21: sending missiles off to neighboring countries. So we're very aware

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Speaker 21: of these issues. We've dealt with it beforeward. The who

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Speaker 21: these who were part of the funded out of Iran

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Speaker 21: attacks on ships going through the Red Sea. So we've

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Speaker 21: dealt with some unrest over the years, but we're not

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Speaker 21: sure how long it's going to go on for.

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Speaker 3: Are we going to put any equipment or people into

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Speaker 3: this warm.

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Speaker 21: I think we need to be very realistic here, Heather.

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Speaker 21: We're number one, a hell of a long way away,

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Speaker 21: but number two, you can see the equipment that's going

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Speaker 21: on being used. Now, what are we going to send

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Speaker 21: what a train, a plane or hercules to do?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 21: We can send a Hercules to go and bring people out.

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Speaker 21: But let's be real here, it's not a war that

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Speaker 21: we we're part of the decision making on and it's

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Speaker 21: not a war where we've been asked to do anything

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Speaker 21: at all.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Judah, thanks very much. Look after yourself. Judith Collins,

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Speaker 3: Defense Minister, fourteen past five.

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Speaker 2: Heather do for see Allen Heather.

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Speaker 3: I'm working in Roxburgh today and it hit thirty three

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Speaker 3: degrees at two o'clock this afternoon, according to the Ute

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Speaker 3: Summer as late. Oh Ben, best bloody news I've had

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Speaker 3: all day? How about that hot weather coming back? Now,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry to say unfortunately, because we're an exporting nation

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Speaker 3: and we rely so much on China. But China has

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Speaker 3: just set its official target growth rate at between four

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Speaker 3: and a half and five percent this year. Now, given

880
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Speaker 3: what we're going through, that probably doesn't sound too bad,

881
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 3: but that is the lowest target they have set since

882
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: at least the nineteen nineties, and if their economy does

883
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: expand at a rate below five percent this year, it

884
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Speaker 3: will be the slowest growth reported by the country in

885
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Speaker 3: more than three decades, excepting, of course, for the over

886
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: pandemic years. So yeah, if you're trading with China, and

887
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: if you're relying on China's money coming in might as

888
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: well just bear that in mind. It's not looking all

889
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 3: that flash. So a chat next to Cole MCCONKI News TROGSB. Okay,

890
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 3: So the guys at bid have got me driving the

891
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: car that they are all excited about at the moment,

892
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: which is their smallest one, it's the Atto one. And

893
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: what's got them excited about this little thing is the price.

894
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: It starts at twenty nine nine to ninety plus on

895
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: road costs, and I'm telling you you're not gonna believe

896
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 3: what you're gonna get for less than thirty thousand dollars here.

897
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: It's got all the safety stuff. It's got the adaptive

898
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: cruise control lane keepersyst automatic emergency bracing, which I think

899
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 3: is going to give you the peace of mind if

900
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: one of the kids is buying. This is a first

901
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: car for UNI. But what I really love here as

902
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: well is the space. It is the smallest car they've got,

903
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 3: but i'll tell you what it is not small inside

904
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: ample their groom. You can fit the car seats for

905
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 3: the kids in there, three hundred and eight leaders of

906
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 3: boot space and over a thousand if you drop the

907
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 3: back seats as well, and then you've got all the tech.

908
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: You got the ten point one in touchscreen, You got

909
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 3: the parking cameras. I can't get over the parking cameras.

910
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: By the way. It's it's a small car, so you

911
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 3: can park pretty much anywhere. But let me tell you

912
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 3: how easy the parking cameras make it. When you can

913
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: see everything from a bird's eye view, it's just a dream.

914
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: It's available for a test drive and delivery right now.

915
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: Six year, one hundred and fifty K warranty, eight years

916
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Speaker 3: of roadside assist and an eight year EV battery warranty.

917
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to check it out. Visit byd auto

918
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Speaker 3: dot co dot MZ to learn more.

919
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: Heather duper se Ellen.

920
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: Right now it is nineteen past five. Now fair to

921
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 3: say the black Caps knocked that one out of the

922
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: park last night, didn't they. They smashed the previously unbeaten

923
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 3: South Africa. They are now in the T twenty World

924
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 3: Cup Final. Off spinner. Cole mcconky put on a performance

925
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Speaker 3: and he's with us now.

926
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Speaker 22: Hey Cole, Hey, Heather, thanks lot for having us.

927
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 3: You have you you've had a sleep? How are you

928
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: feeling about what you did last night?

929
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 8: Yeah?

930
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 22: I had a sleep for Yeah, We got together in

931
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 22: the team room last night and had a drink to

932
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 22: kind of reflect on the game and heah, nice to

933
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 22: wake up this morning and to some good messages and yeah,

934
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 22: looking forward to what the next few days kind of

935
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 22: how that unfolds.

936
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: And have you spotted for now in this morning? Is

937
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 3: he looking like the cat that's got the cream?

938
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 22: No, I haven't spotted for yet. He's a good sleeper,

939
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 22: so I'm sure he'll be tucked away. But that was

940
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 22: some sum innings and he had to put out a

941
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 22: performance like that in a semi final from him, that

942
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 22: was incredibly special.

943
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 7: Cole.

944
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 3: You've seen a fair bit of cricket. Air played a

945
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 3: fair bit of cricket. Have you ever seen anybody do

946
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 3: that with a bat before.

947
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 22: I've seen him do it against Canterbury once or twice

948
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 22: and the domestic stuff. But as I say, like, you know,

949
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 22: that's some world class striking. That's as good as it gets.

950
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 22: And you had to do that on a big stage,

951
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 22: you know, really special for Finn and supported nicely by

952
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 22: Tim Seifert up top and the way that they kind

953
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 22: of set that toe in the run chase. That's as

954
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 22: good at hitting as you ever see.

955
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cole. Tell you what's amazing if you you know

956
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 3: probably I mean you you know better than me, but

957
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 3: you you almost weren't there. If it wasn't for Mark

958
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: Bracewell's injury, you wouldn't have been there.

959
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 22: Yeah, Yeah, it's been a pretty well win few weeks.

960
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 22: To be fair, I was, yeah, sat in the hotel

961
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 22: room in Vicago before a Ford Trophy match against Otago

962
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 22: down there, and yeah, I got a call unfortunately, Yeah,

963
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 22: Michael Bracewoll was ruled out with injury and had to

964
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 22: get on a flight pretty quickly over here to India.

965
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 22: And yeah, the last couple of weeks have kind of

966
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 22: come and been yeah, very quickly, but yeah, very thankful

967
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 22: for the opportunity, and yeah, amazing to be over here

968
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 22: and experiencing this.

969
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 3: Okay, if you have to choose between one of the

970
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 3: two squads you face, either England or India, who would

971
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 3: you rather face?

972
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 22: Yeah, this question was getting thrown around a bit last night. Look,

973
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 22: to be fair, I think I'd personally, I'd love to

974
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 22: play against India. I think at the stadium there and

975
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 22: meant about one hundred and twenty thousand Indians would be

976
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 22: pretty special to you. Go about taking them down and

977
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 22: their home home ground. I think they'd be yeah, pretty special.

978
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 22: But both teams obviously very very good. So we'll see

979
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 22: how it unfolds tonight, but that would be my preference.

980
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cole, thank you very much. Man, look after yourself

981
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 3: and congratulations again. That's Cole maconky black Caps off spinner.

982
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 3: By the way, Cole only bowled one over. He took

983
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: two wickets. Sorr. He did his, He did his. But

984
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: we're lucky he was there, Heather Chris Bishop for Prime Minister.

985
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 3: He can answer questions. Hmmm, well you might well revisit

986
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 3: already tried. He tried that. He tried that. He tried

987
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 3: that in December. Didn't work. But here's my prediction. Given

988
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 3: my predictions are real hot at the moment, aren't they not,

989
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 3: here's my prediction. You're going to be discussing that again

990
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 3: in a couple of days, maybe tomorrow, maybe on Monday,

991
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: because what I'm hearing is there's a poll that's going

992
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: to come out either tomorrow or Monday, and it is

993
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 3: it's bad, bad for it's bad for the National Party.

994
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: Like I it's bad bad with a capital B. Bad

995
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 3: with a capital be enough for you to go m

996
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 3: it'd be Chris Bishop for Prime Minister anyway. The guy

997
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 3: who may be putting out that pole, I think maybe

998
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 3: Jordan Williams, and he is with us before the end

999
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: of the souse. We'll have a chat to him when

1000
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: he's in with the HRDLE. Shortly five point twenty.

1001
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 1: Two A hard questions strong opinion here the duplicy el

1002
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: and drive with one New Zealand and the power of

1003
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: satellite mobile news dogs.

1004
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: They'd be Judith. God bless her for her frank appraisal

1005
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 3: of New Zealand's defense for staves and stitches in Taranaki.

1006
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: I think many of us were five twenty five question

1007
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 3: for you, is it possible that the age of trade

1008
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: me being used for the buying and selling of secondhand

1009
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: household items is over? I asked this because trade me

1010
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: is clearly realized that it's got a problem.

1011
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 8: Right.

1012
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: It's announced today that it's going to be scrapping it's

1013
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 3: eight percent success fee because customers have told them the

1014
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 3: fees they charge it is far too high. I couldn't

1015
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 3: agree more. I sold a bunch of baby stuff I

1016
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 3: wasn't using anymore on trade me last month. It was

1017
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 3: like a rocker and a bath and a baby food cooker,

1018
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: that kind of thing. I will never use trade me

1019
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 3: for that again. By the time I taken the photos

1020
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,280
Speaker 3: and then put the ads up, then sold the things,

1021
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: then box them up, then marched them down to the

1022
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 3: post shop, then dispatched them to bloody Sedden, and then

1023
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 3: gone back to the buyer to tell them the cost

1024
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 3: of the postage. It wasn't worth my while it was

1025
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 3: way too much admin, but especially when I saw how

1026
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 3: little money I was actually getting for all of that effort.

1027
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: After trade me had taken out an eight percent success fee,

1028
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 3: and then two percent for using their ping payment service,

1029
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 3: which they own, and then about six dollars just for

1030
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 3: listing the item in a decent way, there wasn't actually

1031
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 3: that much left. If you're selling something for about fifty bucks,

1032
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 3: you've lost eleven of that to them, as about twenty

1033
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 3: percent of it, And most of the stuff I sold

1034
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 3: sold for a song, and some of the stuff I

1035
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 3: could just couldn't sell at all. Maybe part of the

1036
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,479
Speaker 3: problem is that you don't have to go to trade

1037
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 3: me anymore to get something for a good price. It

1038
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: is now the age of the cheap shop that is

1039
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 3: actually still quite cool, because why would you spend one

1040
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 3: hundred bucks on a second hand breast pump when you

1041
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 3: can just go down to kmart and buy a decent

1042
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: one for forty five dollars. And if that's the money

1043
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 3: I'm now getting, I may as well just give my

1044
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 3: stuff to my friend who's just had a baby instead

1045
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: of spending the adman on collecting a little bit of

1046
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: money for myself. I just wonder if with Facebook, Facebook's

1047
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: marketplace being free for buyers and sellers, and Kmart being

1048
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 3: affordable and reasonably cool, the age of buying other people's

1049
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: second hands on trade me is coming to an end.

1050
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Ellen.

1051
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 3: By the way, the other thing that trade Me's done

1052
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: is it stopped us being able to do the bank transfers,

1053
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 3: so you have to use alf the pay or ping

1054
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 3: which they own and take a cut from, or you

1055
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 3: have to use cash. It's just the whole thing's just

1056
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 3: getting too hard, isn't it. Anyway, we'll talk to them

1057
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 3: after six o'clock, boys doing terrorism expert on that. Next.

1058
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Duplicy Ellen

1059
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: Drive with One New Zealand coverage Like no one else

1060
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: news talk, sa'd be.

1061
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 3: Don't need a camera a con I'll remember continuing on

1062
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: what you're looking at? Which are the markets you're looking at?

1063
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 3: Read the Iran situation, it's it's at the moment kind

1064
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 3: of okay. The oil price obviously is a bit of

1065
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 3: a thing. Sam, Dicky's going to be with us in

1066
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 3: in ours time, took us through what the second and

1067
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: third round effects and unintended consequences are. So looking a

1068
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: little bit further ahead than we are right now. So

1069
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 3: he's going to be with us. Just after half past

1070
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 3: huddle standing by right now. It's twenty five away from

1071
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 3: six now. The heads of the SIS and the GCSB

1072
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 3: have fronted parliament Select Committee outlining what they see as

1073
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: the biggest threat to New Zealand's safety. Spotlight's not on

1074
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 3: any other place in the world, China around, nothing like that.

1075
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 3: It's teenage boys. They say their active investigations are starting

1076
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 3: to resemble a year thirteen boys' school classroom. John Battersby

1077
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 3: is a senior fellow at Massi University Center for Defense

1078
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 3: and Security Studies and with.

1079
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 2: Us Now, Hi John, Hello, Heather, how are you well?

1080
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 3: Thank you? Are you worried? About teenage boys.

1081
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 5: I've always been worried about teenage boys. I think, just

1082
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 5: just the way that I would say, there's a risk here,

1083
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 5: and that risk is increasingly being aggravated by the presence

1084
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 5: of online extremist material that's been created by individuals, possibly

1085
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 5: even by AI consciously aiming to get recruits among a

1086
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 5: certain age group, I suppose, and that sort of age

1087
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 5: group is vulnerable to that kind of thing. So yeah, look,

1088
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 5: there's an increasing risk around that area. It's not going

1089
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 5: to get any less whether I would say it was

1090
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 5: a threat or not. And that's a bit different. A

1091
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 5: threat is where something is organized, somebody's planning something, and

1092
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Speaker 5: they're on the way to commit it. So I think

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Speaker 5: probably what we've got here is a bigger it's a

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00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 5: bigger haystack to go looking through in terms of where

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Speaker 5: a possible threat might emerge from.

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Speaker 3: It sounded like what's going on here is these boys

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Speaker 3: and I am I'm you know, I'm not quoting for beatim,

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Speaker 3: but that these boys are interested in doing something and

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Speaker 3: so they sift through a whole bunch of ideologies to

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Speaker 3: find one that they like that will justify what they

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Speaker 3: want to do. Is that what you think is going on.

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Speaker 5: It's one of the kind of things that are going on.

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00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 5: There are others that are probably drifting around a little

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00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 5: bit soullesced and are quite where they fit in. I mean,

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00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 5: we've all been ceteing before, right, it's a bit of

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00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 5: a it's a strange age. So I think there's probably

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00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 5: several things going on. That's one of them. The other

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Speaker 5: one is where do we fit in? How do we

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00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 5: fit in? Oh, here's something that could include us in

1110
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 5: terms of understanding the world that doesn't quite make sense anymore.

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00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 5: There's always I suppose with boys, they do tend to

1112
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 5: be a little bit more aggressive. Here's a way that

1113
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 5: we can express that's that aggression, and off we go.

1114
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 5: So a range of a range of little problems.

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Speaker 3: I think what boys are we talking about here?

1116
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 5: I think we're probably talking about a fairly small minority

1117
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 5: of individuals who possibly don't feel they belong somewhere a

1118
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 5: little bit detached from the real world, possibly spending two

1119
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 5: much time looking at what's going on in the computer screen,

1120
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 5: not really being challenged critically in terms of questioning what's

1121
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 5: in front of them, and ending up in sort of

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00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 5: echo chamber type environments. Where they're getting the same kind

1123
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 5: of stuff reinforced, possibly looking for an excuse to express

1124
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 5: some form of aggress.

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Speaker 3: Are we talking about what we would have considered in

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00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 3: the school yard to be the loners?

1127
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 5: I don't know about that. I think maybe, But you know,

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00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 5: there's an awful lot of people that don't quite fit in,

1129
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 5: they don't fit into the rest of the rest of

1130
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 5: society or rest of the school yard, that keep to

1131
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 5: themselves in unknown through whatsoever. I think I was probably

1132
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 5: one of them, So you know, I don't know about that.

1133
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 5: I don't know if i'd start putting labels on it.

1134
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 5: We are dealing my feet with a very small minority

1135
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 5: of people who really don't fit in and don't know

1136
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 5: where where they're going to go. Are vulnerable in those

1137
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 5: of the people, all debts are big. Look debt by

1138
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 5: our agent, John.

1139
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 3: It's good to talk to you always as thank you, mate,

1140
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 3: John Badisbee Massi University Center for Defense and Security Studies,

1141
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 3: seeing your fellow twenty away from six the.

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Speaker 1: Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty A name you

1143
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: can trust locally and globally.

1144
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 3: On the huddle with me this evening got Jordan Williams

1145
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 3: Taxpayers Union and Gareth Hughes, who is the director of

1146
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 3: the Well Being Economy Alliance and of course a former

1147
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 3: Green MP. Hello you two, Gareth, you worried about like seriously, right, seriously?

1148
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 3: Are you worried about the scrapping of the clean cast standards?

1149
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 2: Oh?

1150
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 23: I am? I mean why on earth would we want

1151
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 23: to be alongside Russia as two of the only country.

1152
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 3: But we're not actually going to do We're not really

1153
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 3: going to do it though, are we.

1154
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 5: Well, it would be ridiculous not to.

1155
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 23: I mean it would fail basic economic common sense and

1156
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 23: ultimately lead consumers.

1157
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 5: To pay more.

1158
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 23: So I don't know why if you're wasting time, you know,

1159
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 23: consulting on this particular question.

1160
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 3: Jordan, go oh come on mate.

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Speaker 18: You know how the works, don't you doesn't actually lead

1162
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 18: to any but this creen car discount Well, clean car

1163
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 18: regulations don't actually reduce the number of emissions. And if

1164
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 18: you seriously think the government saying you have to import

1165
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 18: cars of X standard doesn't make it more expensive for consumers,

1166
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 18: I mean, you know that's not since on stilts. The

1167
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 18: whole thing that annoys me with this is it's this

1168
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 18: illusion of action and to compare us with Russia is

1169
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 18: just come on, you're.

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Speaker 5: Better than that.

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Speaker 18: New Zealand has a comprehensive emissions trading system that is

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00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 18: a cap and trade, So every extra emission that you

1173
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 18: have on the road it has to come from somewhere else.

1174
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 18: So if you pay more to reduce transport emissions, it

1175
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 18: simply frees up carbon credits or makes them cheaper for

1176
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 18: emissions elsewhere. It's a total false economy. It really grates

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Speaker 18: me these lobbyists that get in the media and say, oh,

1178
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 18: you know, this is bad for the environ it's going

1179
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 18: to more emissions and things like that. It is simply

1180
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 18: not true. And actually you've got to call it out

1181
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 18: because this is actually why New Zealand is poor. We

1182
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 18: have these regulations that make it more costly to live

1183
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 18: for consumers and it actually does nothing for the environment.

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Speaker 3: Garreth, can you respond to.

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Speaker 23: That this is kind of the logic that we should

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Speaker 23: invest billions and charge electricity consumers to build now in

1187
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 23: g terminal high upfront costs, high ongoing costs. You have

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00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 23: port these expensive and increasingly expensive fossil fuels, where we've

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Speaker 23: got cheap soul of power that we get for using

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Speaker 23: this is the same false equivalency that Jorking's using. You know,

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Speaker 23: if we have more efficient vehicles, they're going to be

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Speaker 23: cheaper for consumers to use. We've got one of the oldest,

1193
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 23: most least efficient vehicle fleets. And it's not me comparing

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00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 23: it to Russia. This is the Motor Industry Association pointing

1195
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 23: out that almost every other advanced economy in the OECD,

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Speaker 23: except US in Russia will.

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Speaker 3: Be doing this.

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Speaker 5: Not a smart stab at all.

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Speaker 3: That Russia thing is a fact, and that is why

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Speaker 3: this government will not get rid of it all together

1201
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 3: right because it would it would be the climate lovees

1202
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 3: will absolutely hammer.

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Speaker 10: Them for it.

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Speaker 18: We are unable to We are unable to import a

1205
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Speaker 18: Japanese cars and as a result we have even older

1206
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 18: cars left on the road. Because it's all very well

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00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 18: for the three of us having this conversation, but for

1208
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 18: viewing his Isleander on the minimum or even average way,

1209
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 18: and you're struggling to fill your tank as it is,

1210
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 18: you want an affordable car. The fact is politicians coming

1211
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 18: in saying we need Rolls Royce standards and we know

1212
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 18: best than that over the lifetime of the car or

1213
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 18: what are according to our modeling don't worry at sunshine.

1214
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 18: It's going to be cheaper. Is not the consumer choice

1215
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 18: that tends to lead to lower.

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Speaker 3: Prices, Jordan, while I've got you, have you guys got

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00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 3: a taxpayers Union poll coming out tomorrow?

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00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 18: Yes, we do have a poll tomorrow, Heather. I think

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00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 18: it's be one that that's likely to attract a little

1220
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 18: bit of attention.

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Speaker 3: I've heard it's bad for national is it?

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00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 5: I couldn't.

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00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 18: I couldn't be possibly comment. I as a habit we

1224
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 18: give the heads up to the various politicians and parties

1225
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 18: and party leaders as a courtesy before the poll has

1226
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 18: made public. But I, based on the journalists calling me today,

1227
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 18: I suspect there'll be a few eyes on end boxes

1228
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 18: in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Okay, give me get one to five out of out

1230
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 3: of five. How bad is it for the NATS?

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00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 5: Heather?

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00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 18: Come on, it's been it's been a tough few weeks

1233
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 18: for that. There's no sex. It has been a tough

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00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 18: few weeks for the government. This pole may or may

1235
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 18: not reflect that.

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00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, we'll take a break. Come back to

1237
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 3: you guys. Shortly sixteen away from six.

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00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the only

1239
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: truly global brand.

1240
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 3: You're back with the huddle, Gareth Hughes and Jordan Williams. Gareth,

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00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 3: you still using trade me?

1242
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 23: No, I can't remember the last time I used it,

1243
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 23: but I do have my kids swing which they've outgrown,

1244
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 23: which you know. I see the changes with the six

1245
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 23: So yeah, I mostly use the Facebook marketplace. Maybe I'll

1246
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 23: use trade me.

1247
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 3: No, I hang on, let's work this out for you.

1248
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 3: How much do you reckon? You get for that swing?

1249
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 18: Oh?

1250
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 23: I'm going to give it a spray paint. So I

1251
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 23: reckon a couple hundred bucks.

1252
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 3: You've been on k Mart see if they can what

1253
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 3: they're charging for a swing?

1254
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 23: I know it's quite ridiculous. This is a beautiful old

1256
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 23: metal and what one so okay, come up quite much?

1257
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 3: A couple of hundred bucks? My actually I reckon a

1258
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 3: couple of hundred bucks. I might make the effort, Jordan,

1259
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 3: what about you?

1260
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 8: Love?

1261
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: I love Garrett?

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00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 18: Oh, now using news be and some of my swing

1263
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 18: quick call up now get this to make my reading

1264
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 18: of this, Emily is the trader in our household is

1265
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 18: much fairer at this sort of thing. But I think

1266
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 18: it's all Facebook Marketplace now, which I mean there's there's

1267
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 18: obviously some dodgy stuff on there, but I don't think

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00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 18: it has any fees or any success fees. And I

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00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 18: suspect this is simply trade me having to adjust their

1270
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 18: pitch to reflect the huge volume of people that are

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00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 18: now news Facebook.

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00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 3: What are you people selling on Facebook marketplace?

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00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 18: Jordan oh In My kids are always impeccably dressed, and

1274
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 18: then seems to be able to sell the kid's clothes

1275
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 18: more than she paid for them. She spots them, she

1276
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 18: spots a bargain.

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Speaker 2: I'm very very lucky.

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00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 3: Well, that's good. I see both you both economically minded,

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00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 3: So that's good. Gareth. I have come to the conclusion

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00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 3: I've reached. I didn't want to reach this point, but

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00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 3: I've reached the point where I think that rural families

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00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 3: will have to pay for their own school buses if

1283
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 3: there are not enough family in the area to justify

1284
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 3: a school bus.

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00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 23: What do you think, Well, I think we're particularly talking

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00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 23: about the case in the region. I'm from tartarfidy Gisborne,

1287
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 23: and you know this is I think outrageous. They've been

1288
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 23: given seven weeks notice they might end up having to

1289
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 23: travel two hours round trip because the school bus service

1290
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 23: is being dropped without consultation. You know, it's just a

1291
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 23: bureaucrat lead process. So look, we need to have a

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00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 23: national conversation about this, so we can't just spring it.

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Speaker 3: On rural seven weeks enough, Gareth.

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01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 23: No, when you're you know, the school year has only

1295
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 23: just started. I mean, these are people who are working

1296
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 23: hard on farms and in rural communities. This is going

1297
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 23: to you know, two hours extra out of their day

1298
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 23: is going to have a huge impact on their lives.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well I was with the ruthless efficiency of a working

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01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 3: mother Jordan. I was like, don't worry, I can sort

1302
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 3: out a bus in seven weeks for everyone. Am I

1303
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 3: being unrealistic?

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01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 18: Well, I'm going to go socialists and squishy here and

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01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 18: agree with Gareth. I mean part of part of New

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01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 18: Zealands in many ways as cross subsidizing rural communities obviously roads,

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Speaker 18: school buses is another one. I think it's a I

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Speaker 18: think it is pretty and actually it's a false economy.

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Speaker 18: If kids can't go to the local rural skill or

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Speaker 18: the not so local rural skills it's a couple of

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Speaker 18: hours away, it will mean more kids have to board

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Speaker 18: in town. It is more expensive.

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Speaker 3: Fair point that you make Jordan talk to me about

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Speaker 3: this kermit a patch thing. How did we spend a

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Speaker 3: hundred sixty thousand dollars on a patch?

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Speaker 23: Well, I I've only seen the information from Jordan's newsletter

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Speaker 23: as he's come out, so I'd love to wait to

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Speaker 23: see all the information and how this National Science Challenge

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Speaker 23: the results are being found. But you know, from what

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Speaker 23: I can see, this is not so much about growing

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Speaker 23: a patch of kumita. It's around the process and the

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Speaker 23: history and the culture, which I think is an important

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Speaker 23: subject for New Zealand to be looking into. This is

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Speaker 23: ultimately our history, and to be honest, I'm a little

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Speaker 23: bit disappointed about this because you know, I think we

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Speaker 23: should be celebrating Maori science matadonga and actually there's much

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Speaker 23: bigger fish to fry. We've got half the OECD average

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Speaker 23: spend as part of our economy percentage than the rest

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Speaker 23: of the OECD. Fonterra hasn't let a skill spend of

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Speaker 23: R and D. Being such a major exporter and player

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Speaker 23: in our economy, we should be focusing on actually increasing

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Speaker 23: our investment in science. Will stop not trying to attack

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Speaker 23: these very small amounts of science.

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Speaker 18: Come on, Garret, but that the problem is we're not

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Speaker 18: putting enough money into science. And you're serious, snif because

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Speaker 18: look the reason why it's can different. You could make

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Speaker 18: the argument that's spending one hundred and fifty six thousand

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Speaker 18: dollars on a three meter bo three meter comra patch

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Speaker 18: and studying about that the role of wahim E Mailori

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Speaker 18: woman is to attend the garden. We should be studying

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Speaker 18: and promoting that. You can argue that that's all good value.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't, but you can.

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Speaker 18: But you were using money. There's reserved supposed to be

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Speaker 18: reserved for the krem de la creme, New Zealand's best

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Speaker 18: scientific minds to solve the science in the National Science challenges.

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Speaker 18: And the reason this story came about is because and

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Speaker 18: it's taken nearly a year to get this out of

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Speaker 18: the public agencies, is because of when we discovered that

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Speaker 18: we were paying millions to record whales, sound, remix them,

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Speaker 18: play them to foreigtrists on the basis of the myths,

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Speaker 18: the myth that the cali is the brother of the

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Speaker 18: sperm whale. And you can say, oh, well, mean, maybe

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Speaker 18: we should be doing that as part of some cultural exercise.

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Speaker 18: But this is money for science. I do not understand

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Speaker 18: with the strength face how you can say the problem

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Speaker 18: is in the OECD we're not spending enough on research development,

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Speaker 18: and yet in the same breath you can defend research

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Speaker 18: and development money being used for that. I'm sorry. There

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Speaker 18: is a role for mardy knowledge that is not.

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Speaker 5: Being what it's been used for, which is literally.

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Speaker 18: Replaced so called colonial science. That's what the tax Payers

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Speaker 18: Union is pointing out and believing we've got more. Unfortunately

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Speaker 18: we've got This is just one of a series of

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Speaker 18: stories of this sort of thing.

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Speaker 3: We'll be keeping our eyes open for those. Jordan, thanks

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Speaker 3: very much in Gareth Hughes as well, Jordan Williams. Gareth

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Speaker 3: Hugh's a huddle this evening, seven away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my hard Radio powered by newstalksb.

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Speaker 18: Hither.

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Speaker 3: I live in Auckland. There was no school bus from

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Speaker 3: my child's school, so we organized one and we paid

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Speaker 3: for it ourselves and it just took a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Jonathan worked with the ruthless efficiency of a working

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01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 3: mother that Jonathan did here that the whole emission scheme

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01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 3: is just another tax making New Zealanders poorer by the day. Amen,

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Speaker 3: The ETS is a bloody joke. If you realized how

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01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 3: much you were paying, and listen, I tell you what.

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Speaker 3: If you sat down, if somebody did the numbers and

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Speaker 3: went you are paying this much in ETS every day

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01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 3: with your electricity and your petrol. You just bust it,

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01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 3: you bust of valp. It's just a huge amount of

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01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 3: money and it's making no bloody difference to the climate.

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01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 3: It all out of this country anyway, weight loss jabs,

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01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 3: they are just pumping out the good news about these things.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about. The old wig VI

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Speaker 3: and oz pic and stuff. Looks like they now help

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Speaker 3: people stop getting addicted to drugs and alcohol. This is

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Speaker 3: according to a US study that's been printed in the

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Speaker 3: British Medical Journal. May help people avoid getting addicted to alcohol, tobacco, cannabis,

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01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 3: cocaine could also reduce the risk of people who are

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Speaker 3: old ready addicted to substances having an overdose, ending up

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01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 3: in hospital or dying. Now they think is because they

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01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 3: think that what happens is it MUCKs up. It MUCKs

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01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 3: the brain MUCKs with the brain's reward pathways, so it

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Speaker 3: cuts the cravings. So it's not just food cravings, it's

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01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 3: then cutting. It's everything. It's the drugs, it's the alcoho

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Speaker 3: you just don't crave. It actually backs up with a

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Speaker 3: friend of mine is doing the jabs, has been doing

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Speaker 3: it for a bit, and that's what she said that

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01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 3: she found. She found that not only was she eating less,

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01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 3: but she was because she loves she loves loves the gin.

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01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 3: She's drinking less. She was And this is the one

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Speaker 3: that I thought was most interesting. She was scrolling on

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01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 3: the phone less because she all of a sudden didn't

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01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 3: need that dopamine, you know, pleasure thing response from just

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01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 3: doom scrolling. So if you've got I don't know, maybe

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01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 3: we should. Maybe I'll tell you what instead of an

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01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 3: instead of a fan on the under sixteens on the

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01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 3: social media, just go around jab in the mall and

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01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 3: they won't be interested in it anymore.

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Speaker 18: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk to trade me next News talk ZB.

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Speaker 1: Keeping track of where the money is flowing The Business

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Speaker 1: Hour with Heather duper Clan and mas Insurance and Investments.

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Speaker 2: Your future is in good hands, U Storg zb.

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Speaker 3: Evening. Coming up in the next hour, Sam Dicky with

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Speaker 3: his thoughts on what investors should be considering read the

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01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 3: war in Iran, Jamie McKay on how good it's looking

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Speaker 3: for farming profits, and then Sam Dicky with the ongoing

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Speaker 3: travails for the UK Prime Minister. Seven past six, Trade

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Speaker 3: meek has made a major change to the marketplace section

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Speaker 3: of its website. Casual Sellers will no longer have to

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Speaker 3: pay an eight percent success fee when they sell something.

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Speaker 3: Buyers are going to have to pay a service fee

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Speaker 3: when they buy something for twenty bucks or more, but

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Speaker 3: that fee caps out at five bucks. Lisa Stewart is

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Speaker 3: the head of Marketplace for trade me Hi Lisa, Hi, Heather,

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Speaker 3: are you doing this because the fees that you were

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Speaker 3: charging were putting people off?

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Speaker 16: We are doing this in response to customer feed that

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Speaker 16: We're constantly listening to what our customers are telling us,

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Speaker 16: and we hear two things. The first is they really

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Speaker 16: value the trust and protection that we provide, but that

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Speaker 16: fees were becoming a bigger hurdle to selling, and so

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Speaker 16: we're looking to respond to both of those with the changes.

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Speaker 16: For announcing today.

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Speaker 3: How much were people ending up paying in fees.

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Speaker 16: Well, let's walk for an example. I've got a stroller

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Speaker 16: up for sale at the moment a PRAM, and I'm

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Speaker 16: hoping to get about one hundred dollars for it. So

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Speaker 16: at the moment, for that one hundred dollars sale, i'd

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Speaker 16: pay about eight dollars and success fees. With these changes,

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Speaker 16: that eight dollars will be no more and I could

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Speaker 16: pay a round about two dollars in ping transaction fees.

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Speaker 16: So as a seller on that hundred dollar item, I'd

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Speaker 16: be keeping round about six dollars in my back pocket.

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Speaker 3: The bit better because it's not just the success fees,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. It's the fees that you charge for listings

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Speaker 3: that could be like six bucks. Once you've gone for

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Speaker 3: a subheading, and you've gone for a you know, a

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01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 3: reserve price and all that kind of stuff, and then

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01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 3: you've then you've got the paning fees as well, So

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Speaker 3: it could end up being what like maybe as much

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Speaker 3: as sixteen dollars that you're paying for one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 16: Prem depends on the choices that you make. So when

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Speaker 16: you list on trade me, the success fee has has

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Speaker 16: been the mandatory bits everyone will pay a success fee.

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Speaker 16: I mean, all those other add ons are your choice entirely,

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Speaker 16: and so if you don't want to pay any of

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Speaker 16: those extras at the moment, you don't have to.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're keeping them, are you as they are?

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Speaker 16: We are keeping them as choices.

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Speaker 3: Yet, I mean, so it's lower, but it is still

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Speaker 3: more expensive than Facebook Marketplace, which means that it is

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Speaker 3: still maybe too high, don't you think.

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Speaker 16: Well, Facebook, as you say, is free, but it doesn't

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Speaker 16: offer any of the safety or protection that we offer.

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Speaker 16: We've got Ping is a really safe and secure way

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Speaker 16: to pay, and when you pay with Ping, we cover

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Speaker 16: you with bioprotection. So we're putting that protection up with

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Speaker 16: these changes as well, up to five thousand dollars. You

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Speaker 16: don't get any of that on Facebook. We do need

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Speaker 16: to keep the platform operating though, with these changes, and

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Speaker 16: that's what the service fee for buyers is going to cover.

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Speaker 16: It enables us to keep the platform operating and to

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Speaker 16: offer New Zealand based support.

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Speaker 3: So why are you getting rid of the bank transfers?

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Speaker 16: Well, the sad fact is that, whilst rare, nearly all

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Speaker 16: unresolved scams on trade me involve bank transfer and once

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01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 16: somebody's transferred money into another bank account, that money is

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01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 16: often gone forget. We don't have any visibility over any

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01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 16: of those payments, and so if something does go wrong,

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Speaker 16: it makes it really hard for us to step in

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Speaker 16: and help. So we're getting rid of bank transfers to

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Speaker 16: make the site safe for buying and selling.

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Speaker 3: But this doesn't mean this doesn't prevent let's say I'm

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Speaker 3: the one selling the prem it doesn't prevent from me,

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Speaker 3: the seller of the prem and the buyer of the

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Speaker 3: prem from privately organizing our own bank transfer right.

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Speaker 16: Our bank transfers will now be against our policies, and

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Speaker 16: we've got teams of folks who scan the site to

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Speaker 16: check that nothing dodgy is going on. If they catch

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Speaker 16: that that kind of behavior is happening, then we'd look

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01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 16: to educate our customers on why our policies are what

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Speaker 16: they are.

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Speaker 3: Isn't this ill, Lisa, Isn't this you just funneling finding

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Speaker 3: another way to make money, because then you're funneling everybody

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Speaker 3: through ping, which you own, and you can clip the

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Speaker 3: ticket with two percent.

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Speaker 16: The ping fee isn't changing as a result of these changes.

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Speaker 16: We've had ping on our site for a number of

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Speaker 16: years and the transaction fee of two point one nine

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Speaker 16: percent isn't changing as a result.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it is. I'm not saying it is.

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Speaker 3: What I am saying is, as somebody who recently sold

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Speaker 3: stuff on trade me, my preference was to use a

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Speaker 3: bank transfer because then it was in my account. What

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Speaker 3: you're now doing is saying I can't do that. I

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Speaker 3: have to use potential after pay or ping, which you own.

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Speaker 3: Therefore you can clip the ticket again by two percent.

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Speaker 16: We're offering three different payment options after these changes. Yeah,

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Speaker 16: after pay or cash okay, and so those are the

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Speaker 16: three options that will be that we'll be offering, and

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Speaker 16: we support both ping and after pay with our buyer protection.

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01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 16: So if anything does go wrong and you're using those

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Speaker 16: payment methods, then we've got your back.

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Speaker 3: Listen, Lisa, I have to put this to you because

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Speaker 3: it's an idea that I kind of pitched earlier on,

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Speaker 3: which is is it possible that the age of trade

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01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 3: me is over? Because it is now possible to buy

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01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 3: stuff for so much cheaper and yet it'd be reasonably

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01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:29,959
Speaker 3: cool at places like kmart.

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01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 16: Millions of key we come to trade me every month

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01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 16: to buy and seal, and we're pretty proud of the

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01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 16: role that we've played over the last twenty six years

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01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 16: and helping Kiwi to do that. In fact, something is

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01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 16: bought or sold on trade me about every four seconds,

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01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 16: and so this is really about continuing to improve our

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01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 16: experience and make sure we're really well set up for

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01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 16: the next twenty six years.

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Speaker 3: Lisa has been good to talk to you. Thank you

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01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 3: very much for talking us through it. That's Lisa Stewart,

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01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 3: Trade Me, head of marketplace. Here the shure, the list

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01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 3: fees of choices. But if you don't you'll you'll bog

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01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 3: down under all of the retailers, get them off and

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01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 3: back to the secondhand goods only it was much But

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01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 3: actually Ross makes a very good point. If I don't

1539
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 3: know if you try to buy anything on trade me lately,

1540
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 3: but you do get there are people who have like

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01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 3: commercialized it, right, so you can go on there buy

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01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 3: I bought some stuff that's not bad, like a kid's

1543
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 3: car seat for the bike type thing, but they just

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01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 3: they listed once and then they's pump it out to

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01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 3: everybody who keeps on buying it. Obviously on the Iraq Wars.

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01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 3: So a couple of things to know. Iran says it's

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01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 3: now struck Kurdish militant headquarters in Iraqi, Kurdistan because the

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01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 3: Kurds have crossed the border and started to fight. I

1549
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 3: think Iran is striking so many different enemies at the

1550
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 3: moment that it's got. It's fighting way too many fronts

1551
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 3: because it's going to run out of missiles and we'll

1552
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 3: running through those numbers, hopefully before this half hour is through.

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01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 3: Also another thing to know, Katar has evacuated the buildings

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01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,959
Speaker 3: near the US embassies that I've obviously got some information

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01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 3: that something's about to happen. Fourteen past six.

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01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper see Alan Drive Full Show podcast

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01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by Newstalks EBB. Approaching the numbers and

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01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 1: getting the results. It's Heather Dupleicy Allen on the Business

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01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: Hour with mass insurance and investments.

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01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 2: Your futures in good hands. Use talks edb ehither.

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01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 3: I use Ping as I get instant payment and my

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01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 3: buyers prefer to use it and not bank transfer. As

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01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 3: a buyer, I actively avoid the bank transfer sellers as

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01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 3: the hassle is just too much. Instead of instant transfer,

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01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,799
Speaker 3: and I can also use my Ping account to buy products.

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01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 3: It's convenient and safe rees. You make a good point.

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01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 3: I suppose seventeen past.

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01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:38,879
Speaker 1: Six the Rural Report on Heather Duper c Allen Drive, sigh.

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01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 3: Because it's just more admin. Do you know it's just

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01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 3: more admin because you're doing your business? But now I'm

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01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 3: just wanting to sell my breast pump, aun't i Jamie McKay,

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01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 3: Host of the Countries with me. Hello, Jamie?

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01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 11: Are you sure you want to sell that breast pump? Heather?

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01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 8: You never know?

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01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 11: You might want number three?

1576
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 10: Mate?

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01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 3: Do you know what funny you should bring that up?

1578
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 3: I was going to sell the breast pump, and then

1579
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,759
Speaker 3: I thought hanging a tech because apparently you get hormones.

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01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this, but like about

1581
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 3: twelve months after the baby's born till about nineteen months

1582
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 3: you get hormones. So you got to hold onto the

1583
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 3: breast pump that whole time just in case. Thanks for

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01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 3: the advice.

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01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 11: All right, Well that's probably over sharing, but I shouldn't

1586
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 11: have introduced the topic.

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01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 3: You started it here? What's the noise for that?

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01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 7: Round?

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01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 3: Is this?

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01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: You?

1591
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 22: On?

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01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 3: The way to share?

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01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 17: Is?

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01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 9: Yeah?

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01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 11: I'm at Wellington Airport and I found a really nice

1596
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 11: quiet spot in the airport and then two blokes have

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01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 11: come along and they're erecting a screen, but I can't

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01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 11: move now. I'm committed to this spot. I'm just waiting

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01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 11: Heather for my golf clubs to come out through oversize,

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01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 11: and then I'm heading over the rim Atarkers tonight. To

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01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:39,839
Speaker 11: be in Masterton tomorrow obviously, and Saturday for the Golden

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01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 11: Shares and World Sharing Champs and Wall Handling Champs. Really

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01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 11: looking forward to it.

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01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 3: I see you're going to be doing twenty four seven

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01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 3: hard work. Judging by the golf clubs arriving now, seems

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01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 3: to me the farmers are more farmers than ever are

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01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 3: making a profit.

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01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:54,560
Speaker 2: Is that right? O?

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01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 11: Well, I don't know if it's more than ever, it's

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01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 11: certainly pretty positive. So this is the latest Federated Farmers

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01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 11: Confidence Survey and strong returns. It goes without saying record

1612
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 11: returns for many sectors and obviously lower debt service and costs,

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01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 11: lower interstrates mean farmers are making a profit. As I said,

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01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 11: the Federated Farmer's Confidence SERVEO six hundred and fifty farmers,

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01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 11: seventy percent said their farm was currently profitable. And when

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01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 11: I heard this today, I thought gee, that number seems

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01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 11: a bit low, because if you can't make a buck

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01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 11: now and farming, you'll never make one. But I think

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01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 11: part of the reason is the downturn, especially in the

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01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 11: arable industry, and also like for the grape growers on

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01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 11: that so not every sector is profitable. But the good

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01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 11: news is either this is the highest level of confidence

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01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 11: or profitability since they Federated Farmers started their twice yearly

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01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,600
Speaker 11: Farmer Confidence Survey way back in two thousand and nine.

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01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 11: The farmers are feeling most confident about the current economic conditions.

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01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:59,879
Speaker 11: They haven't felt this confidence since twenty seventeen. And obviously,

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01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 11: as I said, commodity prices the key driver, followed by

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01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 11: lower interest rates. It's interesting when you do break it down,

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01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 11: eighty one percent of dairy farms are profitable. That in

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01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 11: itself's a bit of a surprise. Bearing in mind we've

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01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 11: come out of a really strong payout here, you would

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01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 11: think that more would be profitable. Arable farming continues to lag.

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01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 11: That's at the bottom of the pile, only forty one

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01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 11: percent profitable. A real worry for farmers is like a

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01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,759
Speaker 11: lot of businesses having to recruit skilled and motivated staff

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01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 11: and The other issue, which is always an issue not

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01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 11: only for farmers but also for small business, is just

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01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 11: regulation and compliance costs. They're building up input costs and

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01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 11: obviously the government could go a long way there by

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01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 11: making some much needed changes to the RIMA.

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Speaker 5: So there you go.

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01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 11: That's the farmer confidence survey from the Feds here.

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01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 3: That not bad at all. Hey, listen, you drive safely

1644
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 3: and enjoy the golf and obviously the work as well.

1645
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 3: Jamie McKay hosts of the Country on his way to

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01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 3: Masters and for the Golden Chairs, Heather. It's not just

1647
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 3: the missiles that Iran is going to run out of.

1648
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 3: It's the launchers because every time they fire one, the

1649
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 3: Israelis and the Americans can find and destroy the Lord launcher.

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01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 3: That's interesting, Steve, So this is and then it's not

1651
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 3: just that, but it's also the interceptors. Right, everybody is

1652
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 3: going to run out of interceptors at some stage. So

1653
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 3: this is why the race is on to find the

1654
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 3: launches and take them out. So the missiles and actually,

1655
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 3: by the way, the drones, because I don't know if

1656
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 3: you're aware of this, but Iran is a bit of

1657
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 3: They are actually quite good at making the old drones anyway,

1658
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 3: So estimated before the war that Iran had more than

1659
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 3: two thousand short range ballistic missiles. They think that by

1660
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 3: earlier this afternoon, like I'm going to say mid day,

1661
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 3: so it was six hours and on from midday, so

1662
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 3: there'll be a lot more than this. But by about

1663
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 3: mid day they were estimating Iran had already launched about

1664
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 3: five hundred and seventy one of those around two thousand missiles.

1665
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 3: It's about a quarter, it's more than a quarter. Right

1666
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 3: on the drones, they've estimated tens of thousands of drones

1667
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 3: with Iran, which they are, as I say, very good

1668
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 3: at building. They've already launched about fourteen hundred of the drones,

1669
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 3: and that's just in four or five days. There are

1670
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 3: already signs that Iran is trying to ration the supplies

1671
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 3: and running out of them because it's slowing down the launches.

1672
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 3: So the ballistic missile launches are down eighty six percent

1673
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 3: from the first day of fighting, and in just in

1674
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 3: the last twenty four hours or so, it's dropped by

1675
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 3: a quarter alon so it's taken a big old dunk

1676
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 3: down and then the drone launches it down about seventy

1677
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 3: three percent since the first day of fighting six twenty two.

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01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics, it's all

1679
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 1: on the business hour. We handed do for seur and mas.

1680
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 2: Insurance and investments, your futures in good hands. News talks, envy.

1681
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,759
Speaker 3: It's been do you remember do you remember that bungle

1682
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 3: that happened in Australia with the IVF clinic Monash and

1683
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 3: they put the wrong embryos in the wrong mum, and

1684
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 3: then the mum gave birth to a stranger's baby, and

1685
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 3: then there was a second one which was like shortly thereafter.

1686
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 3: They've done basically the same thing. It's been revealed that

1687
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 3: they have settled with those families to the tunes of

1688
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 3: tune of millions of dollars. Apparently it's hard to know

1689
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 3: whether each family got several millions or whether the total

1690
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 3: was several millions, but it's cost a lot of money.

1691
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 3: And this includes the mum who gave birth to the

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01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 3: stranger's baby, the mum who actually is the biological mother

1693
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 3: of that baby born to another mother, and then another

1694
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 3: family from the second incident that was kind of the same.

1695
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 3: Appears that it was mostly, if not entirely covered by insurance.

1696
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, get that one wrong, You'll be paying through

1697
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 3: the nose six twenty five.

1698
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 1: There's no business like show business.

1699
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 3: How much money do you reckon you have to spend

1700
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 3: in Las Vegas to get a street named after you? Well,

1701
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 3: I asked that question and I can answer it for you.

1702
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 3: Bruno Mars Park Avenue and Las Vegas right off the

1703
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 3: strip will soon be renamed Bruno Mars Drive. And the

1704
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 3: official reason for this is Mars's close relationship with Park

1705
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 3: MGM Hotel and casino. Because he's had a recent a

1706
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 3: residency at the hotel since twenty sixteen, been performing there

1707
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 3: for basically a decade straight, some rumors have started to

1708
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 3: bubble up about the reason that he did this residency

1709
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,799
Speaker 3: for so long. The outlet Las Vegas locally has recently

1710
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 3: reported that he allegedly lost sixty eight million US dollars

1711
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 3: gambling at MGM resorts between twenty nine and twenty twenty four.

1712
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 3: That's about one hundred and fourteen million New Zealand dollars

1713
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 3: and that's apparently all on the table games. Now. This

1714
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 3: would support earlier rumors that Mars's extended residency with MGM

1715
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 3: was a means to offset his debts, and it might

1716
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 3: have worked because he's now going to tour for the

1717
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 3: first time since twenty seventeen. But all of this is

1718
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 3: just rumor. Mars has brushed the claims off by making

1719
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 3: a few jokes. He told fans if they wanted him

1720
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 3: freed from his contract, they had to stream his new album,

1721
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 3: The Romantic, which came out on Friday. Bow he's got

1722
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 3: a taste for the old table. Zoe doesn't need other

1723
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 3: sounds of things. Sam Dickey, who knows absolutely has none

1724
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 3: of this nonsense, knows money the right way. He's going

1725
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 3: to be with us next and talk us through what

1726
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 3: we should be considering as investors. Three the Iran water

1727
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 3: use talks.

1728
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 2: Hash tag I'm a dangerous man with the money.

1729
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:18,560
Speaker 3: You're so many criticism waking up?

1730
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 9: Why are you mad?

1731
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 15: Pretty say?

1732
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 3: I thought they'll be just.

1733
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 2: What shut.

1734
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business Hour

1735
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 1: with head, the dupic Al and MAS Insurance and investments,

1736
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: your futures in good hands used talks, It'd be.

1737
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 3: Hey, I should have talked about this earlier. You will

1738
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 3: have seen by now that the Parliamentary Select Committee has

1739
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 3: backed the idea of banning the social media for the

1740
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 3: kids under sixteen. Interesting so i'd note is that the

1741
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 3: MP who initiated the Select Committee inquiry is unhappy with

1742
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 3: the outcome. This is doctor Panje Palmer who's from the

1743
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 3: ACT Party. She's disappointed with the outcome. She reckons the

1744
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 3: committee members came to an inquiry with predetermined solutions twenty

1745
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 3: five away from seven. Now, of course Iran has been

1746
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 3: extremely topical, so we thought we'd get Sam Dicky of

1747
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 3: Fisher Funds on talk us through what he thinks of

1748
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 3: this high Sam, hey you here that have a go

1749
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 3: very well, thank you, So talk about what investors should

1750
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 3: be thinking. What should they do first when one of

1751
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:29,719
Speaker 3: these events hits.

1752
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 24: Yes, they these tragic human events, that's the first and

1753
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 24: foremost thing. But secondly that they are kind of low

1754
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 24: probability potentially high impact events, and you can't position your

1755
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 24: long term portfolio around these events. Albeit they seem to

1756
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 24: be higher probability these days because they're happening more and more.

1757
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 24: But and foremost, triard you risk. So have a really

1758
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,639
Speaker 24: good hard look at your portfolio if this gets worse.

1759
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 24: How am I exposed? So, for example, do I have

1760
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 24: investments or trades on the lower conviction. Was I thinking

1761
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,640
Speaker 24: of about selling them yesterday anyway before the war. But

1762
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 24: equally you need to be ready to play offense as well.

1763
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 24: So if your portfolio is well positioned, you know your

1764
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 24: companies very well, that they've got strong balance sheets and

1765
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 24: they've got long term thinkers at the helm. Was there

1766
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 24: something you were thinking about buying yesterday before the war started,

1767
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 24: and now you getting the opportunity to buy that high

1768
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 24: quality company at a much better price.

1769
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 3: What framework do investors actually is?

1770
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 2: Well?

1771
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 24: A famous US investors said, when it comes to geopolitics,

1772
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 24: very few people really know anything at all. I'm not

1773
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 24: sure where that apply it and pluy applies to the

1774
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 24: people who are actually waging the war. But I think

1775
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 24: everyone thinks they're an expert. But really history is the

1776
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 24: only decent guy we've got. But you want to make

1777
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 24: sure you look at the right history lessons. So you

1778
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 24: want to make sure the conflict has the same or

1779
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 24: similar most obvious risks. So when we're thinking about this one,

1780
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 24: we should look at historical Middle Eastern conflicts. And if

1781
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 24: you look over the past forty years, have been twenty

1782
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 24: one US air strike campaigns in the Middle East and

1783
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 24: North Africa region, and eight weeks later the S and

1784
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 24: P five hundred was high in ninety five percent of time.

1785
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 24: So that's the first and simple framework. But the most

1786
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 24: important thing after that is how is that most obvious

1787
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 24: risk transmitted to the big drivers of the game or

1788
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 24: the big drivers of market. So how is a high

1789
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 24: oil price going to impact global economic growth? How's it

1790
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 24: going to impact inflation, how's it going to impact interest rates?

1791
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 24: And how's it going to impact corporate earnings growth?

1792
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 3: What about the second and third round effects and the

1793
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 3: unintended consequences? How do the investors wait those?

1794
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 24: Yeah, I think that's a really good question, and that's

1795
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 24: where the market is today. So oil is obviously the

1796
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 24: first round impact. And then you've got to think about

1797
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,839
Speaker 24: what sectors and countries are most sensitive to oil prices.

1798
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 24: And Asia in particular, while it has gone a long

1799
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 24: way to reducing its short bias to oil, I mean

1800
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 24: they have their big net importers of oil India in

1801
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 24: particular and China they are still need importers, so they're

1802
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 24: very sensitive to this. And the other thing is when

1803
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 24: you're sitting at this is more simplistically, when you're sitting

1804
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 24: in a boardroom and you're about to press the button

1805
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 24: on a billion dollar capital spending program building a few factories,

1806
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 24: and maybe you're a bit lying ball on it. I

1807
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 24: imagine you perhaps wouldn't sign the check. So look look

1808
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 24: at the real time indicators of confidence, both consumer and business.

1809
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 24: And the final thing I'll say on this is going

1810
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 24: back to when you look at your portfolio and you

1811
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 24: ask yourself how high conviction you are. I think crowded

1812
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 24: trades and investor positioning are really important. And look at

1813
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 24: the Korean stock market in the last couple of days.

1814
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 24: That was an extremely crowded trade. It's driven by two stocks,

1815
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 24: and maybe investors were not quite as convicted as they

1816
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 24: thought they were in that fiel twenty one percent in

1817
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 24: two days.

1818
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 3: Okay, what does this all mean for investors?

1819
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 21: Then?

1820
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 24: I think, just again, make sure you really understand your company,

1821
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 24: make sure you know what risk you've got on. And

1822
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 24: if they are high quality, strongly positioned companies and they

1823
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 24: are a lot cheaper today and they were yesterday, that

1824
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 24: can be a buying opportunity. But just h sure you've

1825
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 24: triaged you risk first.

1826
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 3: Yes, Sam, it's always good to talk to you, and

1827
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 3: thanks for your advice at Sam Dickey, a Fisher funds.

1828
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 3: Right now it's coming up to U. It's twenty one

1829
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 3: away from seven really together. The company that listed on

1830
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 3: the INS and X today, Tycho Critical Minerals shares have

1831
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 3: doubled so open at eleven cents now sitting at twenty

1832
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 3: two cents last time I checked, which is I reckon

1833
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,759
Speaker 3: about half an hour ago. They want to raise another

1834
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars. These guys, by the way, are

1835
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 3: mining on the West coast. They've got some private farmland

1836
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 3: they're going to mine out at Barrytown Flats. They've could

1837
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 3: consent to mine on sixty four hectares, also consent recently

1838
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 3: to build a mineral separation plant at Rapahoe. They want

1839
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 3: to raise another hundred million dollars for the project, but

1840
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 3: they're going to do it later this year. They're going

1841
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 3: to educate the investors first, so it's probably worth keeping

1842
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 3: an eye on.

1843
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 10: Now.

1844
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 3: Have a listened to this acain, have listened to this speech.

1845
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 3: This is a politician giving a speech just recently. Tell

1846
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 3: me where this guy's from?

1847
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 2: Well way, do not you care this?

1848
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 18: Three?

1849
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 2: Do you take up a lot of fools over here?

1850
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,799
Speaker 2: Because they tended is we are enough fools.

1851
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 9: We know what's happened in Ah these problems will cause Ye.

1852
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 3: No, he's not from Jamaica. He's not from Jamaica. This

1853
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,839
Speaker 3: is Thomas Gold of shin Fein speaking in the Irish

1854
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 3: Parliament and he's not putting he's not putting on that accent.

1855
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 3: Turns out the accents are just that similar that it

1856
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,879
Speaker 3: has exploded the Internet in both countries.

1857
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:25,759
Speaker 4: Do be bliam in Blia, do't be bliam, and certainly

1858
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 4: don't be blamant on Commission Anglala.

1859
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 3: So it's sparked because everybody's got everybody everybody's got ironic

1860
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 3: that I'm saying, everyone's got an opinion nowadays. I don't

1861
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 3: have any, but everybody's got an opinion nowadays. And everybody

1862
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 3: immediately jumped to the conclusion that obviously what's happened here

1863
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:46,719
Speaker 3: is that the Jamaican accent can can trace its origins

1864
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 3: back to the Irish accent. There must been heaps of

1865
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 3: Irish people who went and landed in Jamaica during the

1866
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 3: formation the formative period of the Jamaican accent. Not at all. No,

1867
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,600
Speaker 3: that's not what happened. There is no there is just

1868
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 3: no record of significant levels of Irish going to Jamaica

1869
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 3: during that period of the accent forming. Turns out, it's

1870
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 3: just a happy coincidence that both places ended up sounding exactly.

1871
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 3: This isn't that weird. That's so weird. It's weird. You

1872
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 3: just combine the elements and whoop, get the same concoction

1873
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 3: coming out of somebody's mouth. Now I've got happy news

1874
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 3: because we've been spent speaking today about selling your second

1875
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 3: hand staff and buying your staff, and should you just

1876
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 3: go to the shop and buy buy it new rather

1877
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 3: than buying the breast pump secondhand? You want to get

1878
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 3: yourself a computer? What about this one? Apple has just

1879
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:32,759
Speaker 3: launched its cheapest MacBook yet, in the Neo. The Neo

1880
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 3: is going to sell for eleven hundred and ninety and

1881
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 3: that just rounded ups. Put the extra dollar on and

1882
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 3: say that's twelve hundred dollars. You spend twelve hundred dollars.

1883
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 3: You need yourself a brand new MacBook. Apparently, And I

1884
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:45,600
Speaker 3: don't know anything about computers other than the fact that

1885
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 3: I need to replace mine because every time I bring

1886
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 3: my MacBook into this because you know something will go

1887
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 3: wrong and the work wants me to do something with

1888
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 3: it that I've got to take it somewhere for work.

1889
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 3: I bring it in, my boss flips out about it

1890
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 3: because it's anti consent, so antiquated it is. I am

1891
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 3: not lying to you. It's so antiquated that if you

1892
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 3: don't put that, if you don't charge it, it runs

1893
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 3: like it doesn't work. So it hasn't actually got any

1894
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 3: battery left in it. The battery lasts. I think probably

1895
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 3: I reckon I could get a good half hour out

1896
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 3: of it, and then it starts to die. So it's

1897
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 3: it's basically it's not a laptop anymore, is that it's

1898
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 3: just a computer. But then the charging cable is so

1899
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 3: frayed that, like the plastic has completely disappeared at one

1900
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 3: point and it's just down to its last like three

1901
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 3: little bits holding.

1902
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 15: The still run though it does. Yeah yeah, yeah, So

1903
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 15: I mean I think I think we just need a

1904
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 15: new charging cable now. I don't need a whole new computer.

1905
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 15: I mean, the boss has been able to cope every

1906
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 15: time you've brought it in before. Well, this is a

1907
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 15: great opportunity to do something for the planet. We don't

1908
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 15: need to buy something new. We can just keep our

1909
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 15: role the J, the J has.

1910
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 3: Been scratched out, the JAY on the keyboard has been

1911
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 3: scratched out. So when you're doing your Tyrannosaur restricts typing,

1912
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 3: you don't know how to write Jesus.

1913
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:52,880
Speaker 15: Only that letter's gone, then you know, so long as

1914
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 15: you don't lose another one.

1915
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 3: This is basically this attitude from ants being like.

1916
01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 15: So I just think a laptop should last for a

1917
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:00,879
Speaker 15: long time. Don't think that's unreasonable.

1918
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 3: Descendant of like poor immigrants once upon a time, same

1919
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 3: as me. I just also made this thing last about

1920
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 3: seven hundred years longer than it should have anyway.

1921
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 15: Great advert for Apple, and I know it's lasted.

1922
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 3: I know no built obsolescence in this one anyway. So

1923
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 3: I opened the heir all today. Chris Keel, who writes

1924
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 3: about the technology stuff, was like, hey, listen, this Neo

1925
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 3: is awesome for half the price. You can get the

1926
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 3: same kind of stuff as you get for double the

1927
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 3: price with other computer models. Storage, I have no idea

1928
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 3: what I'm telling you right now. Storage is a handy

1929
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty six gigabytes, comes in a durable

1930
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:37,839
Speaker 3: aluminium case with two USBC ports. Apple says the battery

1931
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 3: is good for up to sixteen hours of video streaming.

1932
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 3: And you have eight g g eight GB of ra

1933
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 3: AM No, I do know, I'm teasing eight gigabytes a RAM.

1934
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:51,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's good and says it's fine.

1935
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 3: I'm getting myself on.

1936
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 7: Do you know what?

1937
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 3: I'm going down to the Apple shop and says there

1938
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 3: an Apple shop? Or do I have to go to

1939
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 3: no Lemming?

1940
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 15: There are lots of we don't have actual apples. There

1941
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 15: are lots of shops that are Apple supported here.

1942
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to an Apple supported shop with

1943
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 3: my winnings from trade me from selling my baby stuff,

1944
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:08,600
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna have to top it up with dinosaur

1945
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 3: money is in because one of the kids has got

1946
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 3: his coin thing as a dinosaur. I'm gonna throw it

1947
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Speaker 3: all together. I'm gonna buy myself a neo. I know

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Speaker 3: Christmas is coming early for me, sixteen away from seven.

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Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy Allen and Mas Insurance

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Speaker 1: and Investments, Your futures in good hands, used talks'd be.

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Speaker 3: Heather Welsh is super similar to Jamaican as well as

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Speaker 3: she is now that you pointed out thirteen away from

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Speaker 3: seven Inde Brady is our UK correspondent high Ender.

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Speaker 4: Hey had great to speak to you again.

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Speaker 3: Is this vessel going to Cyprus not sailing until next week?

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's exactly it, so big change of plans. It

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Speaker 4: had been here marked for another operation they've had to

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Speaker 4: cancel that, change things around, put different weapons on board. Look,

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Speaker 4: we're given all sorts of excuses as to why it's

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Speaker 4: taking so long, but I think the event for the

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Speaker 4: last few days here have really highlighted here just how

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Speaker 4: kind of off the pace the UK military is in

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Speaker 4: terms of everything, In terms of absolutely everything operational deployment.

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Speaker 4: They don't have a single vessel anywhere in the Middle East,

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Speaker 4: and that's the first time in fifty years. So that

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Speaker 4: should give people an indication of just how little money

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Speaker 4: and interest has been paid to the UK military for

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Speaker 4: a couple of decades.

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Speaker 3: I guess, I mean, obviously embarrassing for you guys and

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Speaker 3: not what you want, but also probably the hurry up

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Speaker 3: that you need, don't you think.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And look, they've had four years of a war

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Speaker 4: in Ukraine to start planning and start getting things at

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Speaker 4: operational level, and just even down to how you deal

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Speaker 4: with drones. Just for example, what the Uranians are firing

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Speaker 4: costs twenty six thousand dollars a pop. What the Brits

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Speaker 4: have been firing at them cost two million dollars a pop.

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Speaker 4: So economically, who's winning that argument? I mean, they need

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Speaker 4: to start learning. They need to sit down with the

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Speaker 4: Ukrainians who figured out how to bring down drones really

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Speaker 4: really quickly and cheaply, and the UK military just needs

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Speaker 4: an upgrade because this is not good.

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Speaker 3: How weak does Stama look at the moment?

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Speaker 4: Really weak? Another flip flop of the weekend, you know,

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Speaker 4: initially telling the Americans they couldn't use British air bases

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Speaker 4: and then very quickly changing his mind. Trump's roth came

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Speaker 4: very quickly and has not stopped since. So domestically weak,

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Speaker 4: and he's starting to look weak on the international front

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Speaker 4: as well. So you know, make a decision, stick to

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Speaker 4: a decision, deliver the plan, and he seems quite incapable

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Speaker 4: of doing anything.

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Speaker 3: Really into How serious does this news that three men

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Speaker 3: have been arrested on suspicion of spying for China.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and this again is embarrassing for the Prime Minister

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Speaker 4: because from what I'm hearing all three are connected to

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Speaker 4: the Labor Party. And Starmer was in Beijing just a

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Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago, first UK prime minister heading there

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Speaker 4: in eight years, and of course he signed off on

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Speaker 4: China's massive new embassy plan in London, which will be

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Speaker 4: their biggest embassy anywhere in the world. So it does

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Speaker 4: not look good. Three men arrested, properties searched in London

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Speaker 4: and in Wales and one in Scotland. And the man

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Speaker 4: in Scotland who was arrested, I understand is the husband

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Speaker 4: of a female Labor MP. Now obviously it's a live

2006
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Speaker 4: police investigation. They're in custody. But again, you know, this

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Speaker 4: story keeps repeating itself, people in and around Parliament being

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Speaker 4: picked off and arrested by counter terrorism cups and the

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Speaker 4: allegation always is that they're spying for China.

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Speaker 3: Is it William? Is this your understanding that it's William

2011
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Speaker 3: who's kept Andrew's daughters away from Escott.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's what the whisper is. So Beatrice and usually

2013
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Speaker 4: have been told do not appear, not in the carriage procession,

2014
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Speaker 4: don't go racing, don't be at Royal Ascott and I

2015
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Speaker 4: think what you're seeing. Is William doing all the housekeeping

2016
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Speaker 4: that his dad should have been doing many many years ago,

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Speaker 4: and indeed his grandmother as well. So William is the

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Speaker 4: new broom sweeping clean before he even gets into the house.

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Speaker 3: Is it fear on them though they've done nothing wrong?

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Speaker 4: Well, you say that, I would advise people to go

2021
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Speaker 4: pick up a copy of a book called Entitled by

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Speaker 4: Andrew Loney. My understanding is he's currently working on a

2023
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Speaker 4: follow up book called Untitled, and have a read around

2024
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Speaker 4: and just look at the behavior. Basically, I think once

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Speaker 4: they remove Andrew from the line of succession, there will

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Speaker 4: be no choice but to takeout Beatrice and usually as well,

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Speaker 4: and the entire house of York falls and people can say,

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Speaker 4: you know, the sins of the father whatever. These are

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Speaker 4: fully grown women now, and you know their mother took

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Speaker 4: them to visit Epstein the week he got out of

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Speaker 4: prison for abusing gals. You just couldn't make this up.

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Speaker 4: I just think the whole house of York has to

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Speaker 4: go in the.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for time, mate, look after yourself.

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Speaker 3: Of the inde Brady how UK correspondent nine away from seven,

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Speaker 3: it's the.

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Speaker 1: Hitherto see Alan Drive full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 18: Hither.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe the school bus rubbish you've been talking

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Speaker 3: about today. I hired one for twenty kids and it

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Speaker 3: run for five years, and I build the parents each term.

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Speaker 3: It saved us all driving miles and money. The trouble

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Speaker 3: is people want everything done for them these days. Cheers Maggie.

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Speaker 3: But the farmers. This is ultimately what it comes down

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Speaker 3: Mark my words will be. What it comes down to

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Speaker 3: is everybody else. Everybody else doesn't matter quite as much

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Speaker 3: as I say this with relevant respect for farmers obviously,

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Speaker 3: but farmers are special because farmers are the ones basically

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Speaker 3: earning all the money that this country's got at the moment.

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Speaker 3: If even Jordan Williams, who hates spending a dollar on anything,

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Speaker 3: taxpay dollar or anything, it's prepared to pay for the

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Speaker 3: buses for farmers because they make all the money. It

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Speaker 3: tells you something. I've got an update for you on

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Speaker 3: the least important story of the day, but one which

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Speaker 3: I think weird numbers of us are still fascinated by.

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Speaker 3: It's the Beck confute. So today is a happy birthday

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Speaker 3: of Brooklyn. Today's Brooklyn Beckham's twenty seventh birthday, but he

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Speaker 3: remains the prodigal son. So the mum and dad have

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Speaker 3: gone on too the Insta today. They haven't, by the way,

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Speaker 3: this whole time that they've been having this mass of

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Speaker 3: falling out, they haven't even acknowledged the rift to mum

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Speaker 3: and dad being David and Vicks, they haven't even acknowledged it.

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Speaker 3: But they've gone on the Instagram today and they've wished

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Speaker 3: the prodigal son a happy birth the happy birthday. They

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Speaker 3: said we love you in the picture of them all

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Speaker 3: swimming in a pool when he was a little baby.

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Speaker 3: So happy days.

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Speaker 15: Very Dysfunctional and Witchcraft by Pendulum to play us out tonight.

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Speaker 15: Pendulum and the electronic rock band from Australia have been

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Speaker 15: announced they will be playing at Ultra Festival, which is

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Speaker 15: happening in Wellington in April. We already Knewultra was happening.

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Speaker 15: That announced half the line up, but the rest of

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Speaker 15: the lineup is out tonight. Other new editions Ellis in Wonderland,

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Speaker 15: a trap DJ from over in Australia, Rave Olp DOUVESTEP

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Speaker 15: producer from America, Quicks our very own trap producer Quicks

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Speaker 15: and a nightmare trap producer from over in America as well.

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Speaker 15: This is probably the lineup I am most excited about

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Speaker 15: out of anything that I've seen this year, and usually

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Speaker 15: that's rhythm and vines. So they've done a very good

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Speaker 15: job with that. Thanks very much Louis Upston for fuming it.

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Speaker 3: There are didn't you just say that it was a

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Speaker 3: rock band.

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Speaker 15: Pendulum is an electronic rock band. They are just doing

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Speaker 15: a DJ set at Ultra, So if you're thinking about

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Speaker 15: getting a ticket, I don't think they'll do the live

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Speaker 15: drums and the live guitar.

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Speaker 3: So, oh, so you'll prepare to acknowledge rock music if

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01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 3: it's got an electronic put Oh.

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Speaker 15: Absolutely. They started out as drum and based based DJs

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Speaker 15: and decided they had electric guitar. There's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, so this is okay. Then, Hey, we'll see

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Speaker 3: you tomorrow. You have a loved leaving New Talks.

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Speaker 22: It'd be.

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Speaker 2: Don't room.

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Speaker 6: Maybe she's wrestling, maybe's she avde just.

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Speaker 2: Come back from the.

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Speaker 10: Change is leaving some things.

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Speaker 11: The name.

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Speaker 2: Go borrow, we got again

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Speaker 1: Draper for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen live

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