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Speaker 1: Interesting developments in the wine industry. Taiwanga restate this in

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Speaker 1: hawks By it's on the market because the owner wants

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Speaker 1: to concentrate on exporting to the US. So if you

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Speaker 1: fancy a restaurant, vineyard and cellar door, this could be

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Speaker 1: for you. The owner Rod McDonald's with us, Rod, morning, morning,

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Speaker 1: How are you well? Thank you? How much of this

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Speaker 1: is about the domestic hospo market being a bit hard

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Speaker 1: work versus you wanting to be in the US.

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Speaker 2: Look, you know, it's always going to be a combination

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Speaker 2: of both. We've got a really exciting opportunity in the US,

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Speaker 2: but it's capital hungary. So weighing up the opportunities between

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Speaker 2: operating the continuing to operate the vineyard, particularly in cellar door,

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Speaker 2: compared to what lies the head potentially in the US,

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Speaker 2: is what.

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Speaker 1: Lies ahead potentially in the US super exciting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. Look where we've recently got some listenings

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Speaker 2: in Costco. We're going to be in about one hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixteen stores come the next quarter of trading, and

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Speaker 2: we've got national distribution. But it's really early days for us,

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Speaker 2: so it just takes a lot of money to continue

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Speaker 2: to build and invest in that platform.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it does having it. So you are you one

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Speaker 1: of those people who started out with you know, you

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Speaker 1: could look at your grapes out your window and you

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Speaker 1: could crush them yourself and think that's fantastic. You've moved

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Speaker 1: into be a sort of a mega entrepreneur. Are you

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Speaker 1: one of those sort of people?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I wouldn't say mega entrepreneur, but certainly labeling at

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Speaker 2: the kitchen table and getting out with a weed wacker

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Speaker 2: and dealing with you know, dealing with a vignyard on

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Speaker 2: a daily basis. That's where it all started for sure, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So you want to lease back, though, don't you, because

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Speaker 1: you can't get into the US and expand if you

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Speaker 1: don't have any grapes, and if you sell your grapes,

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Speaker 1: you're sort of out of wine making, aren't you. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So there's a few different parts of the business. We

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Speaker 2: leased a couple of vineyards, and we work with growers

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Speaker 2: and they've all been incredibly supportive and a big part

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Speaker 2: of the journey to get to this point. So we'll

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Speaker 2: continue to do that. You know, a vinyard at Tiawonga

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Speaker 2: we planted with Merlow's son, Blanc Chadet and Sarah. It's

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Speaker 2: you know, most of what we're selling overseas as a

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Speaker 2: sauvinyon blanc and and not at the sort of super

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Speaker 2: premium price point that we grow out a tiawa. So

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Speaker 2: we're fully certified organic out there. That's a big part

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Speaker 2: of the story for us as well. But to get

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Speaker 2: some scale and build momentum in the US, you know,

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Speaker 2: sustainability is part of the story. And and Hawk's Bay

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Speaker 2: sauvignon blanc, believe it or not. So I think it's

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Speaker 2: it's a really exciting thing for hawks Bay and US.

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Speaker 2: But you've got to cut your cloth. You've got to

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Speaker 2: you've got to allocate your resources where you think they're

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Speaker 2: going to get your best return.

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Speaker 1: Exactly. Well, I wish you all the very best with it,

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Speaker 1: Rod Rod McDonald, who is the owner currently of Taiwanga

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Speaker 1: es state they make some very good wines. So for

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Speaker 1: range of ones, actually you get some of the sabs

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Speaker 1: and the high teens, and they make a very good

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Speaker 1: top end Surah. So best Sarah in the country comes

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Speaker 1: out of Hawks Bay. Of course. I think that I

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Speaker 1: can say that without any real dispute, can't

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