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Speaker 2: You welcome today to Windstone Jobs. Is this really a

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Speaker 2: the Capitol US Debate day. Of course, Mark and Jinny

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Speaker 1: Well, Posky.

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Speaker 2: So we launch into the middle of the week. Yes,

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Speaker 2: the debate this afternoon, in a race that has been

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Speaker 2: tipped on its head in the most extraordinary way. Not

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Speaker 2: a lot of interest in debates, they told us prior

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Speaker 2: to the Trump v. Biden one. The fact that there

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Speaker 2: shows how wrong that was. And then he went and

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Speaker 2: anything tangible, far less tumultuous happens today. The Harris interview,

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Speaker 2: If you walk off stage unscathed, it's been a success. Apparently,

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Speaker 2: Harris in the interview said nothing, but the fact she

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Speaker 2: And if you watch the first debate, the Biden melt

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Speaker 2: I mean, no audience, Mike's not on. A very staid, scripted,

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Speaker 2: relies on the moderators. The American style appears to be

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Speaker 2: low key, non confrontational with minimal follow up, but it

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Speaker 2: Trump had his convention, which was Good got shot, looked

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Speaker 2: In ninety seconds and the rubbers hit the road. For the

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Speaker 2: UK government, the controversial winter heating cuts have been voted through.

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Speaker 3: We must fix the foundations of our economy as the.

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Speaker 4: First step to rebuilding Britain and making the changes our

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Speaker 5: Government back, though certainly flies against everything I believe in

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Speaker 5: and put them in this hardship.

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Speaker 5: This is an absurd policy which their own plans are

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Speaker 2: the jobs here are bad? It is a grim September

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Speaker 2: watch this one that's going to unfold with the great

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Speaker 2: An employment protection agreement started at nineteen ninety four. Basically

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Speaker 2: it's job for life stuff. They've ripped that up overnight.

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Speaker 2: Then we come to jobs in Britain. They calling it

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Speaker 2: a groom September to come six thousand jobs to be

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Speaker 4: This is not a detailed technical review.

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Speaker 11: iPhone sixteens launched yesterday, but apparently I have a.

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Speaker 11: New camera functionality. Wearables you watch you watch can now

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Speaker 11: have sleep happar and I tongue in cheek wondered whether

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Speaker 2: Now Australia. This is interesting, isn't it. Things are starting

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Speaker 2: does the market take that on board?

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Speaker 11: get policy. I don't think financial markets are focused on

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Speaker 11: of when the debate airs, the US.

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Speaker 11: US markets tend to take presidential elections in their strata.

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Speaker 11: I just said, I just don't think you're going to

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Speaker 12: The attempt to end my husband's life was a horrible

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Speaker 2: Oh, low level conspiracy questions? Very good. If you've got

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Speaker 2: In a couple of moments. Then we'll get to Winstone

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Speaker 2: you're well aware, Guardian of the Golden Miles, Spokespurst and

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Speaker 2: Barry Wilson's Beck Weather's Berry morning to you, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: It's hold the bait that's going on in Wellington at

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Speaker 2: the moment. You know whether it's dying or not. What's

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Speaker 13: Generally, the player is not dying and we're not in

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Speaker 13: pretty more so than your goodhood. No, we've got a

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Speaker 2: Is there any sense of what the council could do

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Speaker 13: Businesses, it's basically im possible to do. It's just a

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Speaker 13: how do you commentate fifty percent? Unless they give you know,

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Speaker 13: a commensation, a numbers, you've lost. It won't work. Little

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Speaker 2: Nothing that's correct. This is a council that's crippled by debt.

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Speaker 2: They had their credit rating lowered this week by SMP.

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Speaker 2: How is it they have money, they can spend money,

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Speaker 13: Good points you make them. It's a business planners and

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Speaker 13: Call them the gray the gray green Left, just business bangers.

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Speaker 13: They have no idea, no background business, no idea about money,

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Speaker 13: There's absolutely reckless pirates.

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Speaker 2: Really, is there any possibility that the rejing of the

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Speaker 13: journalists found us out. We have a Walker Kitari board

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Speaker 2: Mike good Only Wilson Barry appreciate it very much. Barry

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Speaker 2: Nineteen away from seven scar the results of the misery

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Speaker 2: Index and tell you why Karmala Harris is going to

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Speaker 2: which at seven point zero two, they are the incumbent wins.

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Speaker 2: But of course we've not had the incumbent the way

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Speaker 2: his savings. And who on earth doesn't want to make

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Speaker 2: the most of their savings? So why would you wait

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Speaker 2: to learn more and see their financial advice? Provide a

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Speaker 2: disclosure statement? Milford Asset dot com slash retire Well you

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Speaker 2: got that Milford Asset dot com slash retire Well asking

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Speaker 2: Mike was he talking about Taronga? Nope, I totally agree

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Speaker 2: with Barry, Mike, unbelievable what our mayor's done and the

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Speaker 2: council was somebody voted. I mean, I'm assuming that are

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Speaker 2: people listening to this this morning that voted for all

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Speaker 2: of this and they're thoroughly enjoying the experience. I was

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Speaker 2: told last night, Mike, the town Hall needs more money

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Speaker 2: for Phase two. It's ridiculous. Too many cones, it's depressing,

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Speaker 2: too many raised crossings. The mayor and the Green councilors

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Speaker 2: have got no clue. They're slowly strangling and destroying our city.

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Speaker 6: Six forty five International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance,

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Speaker 6: Peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: So Tird Richard morning, I'm ready a you.

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Speaker 16: I don't know, but already or not, this might be

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Speaker 16: the critical moment in the seemingly endless presidential campaign. Here

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Speaker 16: is the two contenders come on the Harrison Donald Trump

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Speaker 16: face off in a few hours. Here the big debate.

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Speaker 16: They have never been in the same room before. Now

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Speaker 16: they will be standing what only meters apart in a

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Speaker 16: tiny space in Philadelphia for their first and likely only debate.

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Speaker 13: Encountered.

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Speaker 16: The polls much as they were at the start of

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Speaker 16: the week when we spoke. Trump is up by a

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Speaker 16: couple of points in Arizona and Florida. Harrison Trump attired

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Speaker 16: in Georgia, Nevada, and North Carolina. Harris is up by

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Speaker 16: three points in Michigan. Also in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. So

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Speaker 16: those last three are what is sometimes called the blue wall.

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Speaker 16: If Democrats can win these states and always, all these poles,

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Speaker 16: of course, are within the margin of error. So this

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Speaker 16: debate in a few hours is critical. It is ninety minutes.

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Speaker 16: There will be no audience. Mike's are on only when

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Speaker 16: the candidate questioned is speaking, Otherwise they muted. Only the

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Speaker 16: moderators can ask questions. There will be no opening statements.

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Speaker 16: Trump won the COURSS, so he gets to speak last.

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Speaker 16: So Trump says he has not been preparing for the debate,

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Speaker 16: But yes, he has been.

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Speaker 4: Doing debate prep.

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Speaker 16: Just I don't call it that, folks. One interesting dynamic

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Speaker 16: is how Trump deals with a woman. He debated Hillary

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Speaker 16: couldn't course twenty sixteen. Here is a brief moment from that.

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Speaker 17: She doesn't of the.

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Speaker 12: Look, she doesn't have the stamina.

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Speaker 17: I said, she doesn't have the stamina, and I don't.

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Speaker 18: Believe she does have the stamina.

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Speaker 12: Believe me, she has tremendous hate in her heart.

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Speaker 16: Poor little females right, don't have the stamina, and boyd

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Speaker 16: they don't have the low, says Trump. Well, how will

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Speaker 16: that play at a time of growing gender gap? Here

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Speaker 16: here is Harris's take on Trump right now.

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Speaker 3: There's no floor for him.

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Speaker 19: In terms of how low he will go, and we should.

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Speaker 20: Be prepared for that.

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Speaker 19: We should be prepared for the fact that he is

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Speaker 19: not burdened.

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Speaker 20: By telling the truth.

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Speaker 16: Republicans arranged a Capitol Hill memorial today for the thirty

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Speaker 16: US troops who were killed in that suicide bombing that

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Speaker 16: hit the trouble departure from Afghanistan three years ago.

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Speaker 2: So is the politics and the.

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Speaker 16: Timing of this event three years on to the day.

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Speaker 16: Harris is bringing two former Trump officials as debate guests

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Speaker 16: for the Spin Room later tonight. One is Anthony Scaramucci,

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Speaker 16: who served for ten days coundam as Trump's communications chief,

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Speaker 16: about as long as an expired ham sandwich, says a

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Speaker 16: Trump aid.

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Speaker 14: Now.

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Speaker 16: Other former Trump officials, Pence Bolton, Mike Millie, Mark esper So,

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Speaker 16: former VP National Security Advisor, Pit of the Joint Chiefs,

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Speaker 16: and Defense Secrety appear in Democratic campaign commercials now. Meantime.

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Speaker 16: Trump said this bit of complete nonsense at.

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Speaker 2: His last rally.

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Speaker 17: Tamala support states being able to take minor children and

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Speaker 17: perform sex change operation, take them away from their parents,

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Speaker 17: perform sex change operation, and send them back home. Can

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Speaker 17: you imagine you're a parent and your son leaves the

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Speaker 17: house and you say, Jimmy, I love you so much,

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Speaker 17: go have a good day in school, and your son

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Speaker 17: comes back with a.

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Speaker 16: Brutal rubbish of course, but then the internet never.

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Speaker 2: Lies, right, Ah, for God's sake. Then we get to Nevada,

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Speaker 2: where the Murdoch story is going to be fascinating, and

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Speaker 2: see how this plays out.

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Speaker 16: Well, it's succession the sequel, isn't it. We thought the

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Speaker 16: saga of azillionaire's kids fighting furiously to control the media

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Speaker 16: empire when he's dead is done with the end of

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Speaker 16: the HBO mini series Sink again, folks in Nevada. Today,

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Speaker 16: a court case begins where ninety three year old Rupert

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Speaker 16: Murdock is still kicking trying to overturn a long standing

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Speaker 16: family trust which was put in place when Rupert split

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Speaker 16: from his second wife Anna. The idea what these children

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Speaker 16: would have equal shares in the Murdock empire. Latterly, though,

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Speaker 16: Murdoch has favored his right leaning son of Lachlan and

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Speaker 16: stepped aside to give him sway a Fox News, Wall

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Speaker 16: Street Journal, New York Post and so on. Now three

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Speaker 16: other Murdoch offspring James, Elizabeth and Prudence are suing to

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Speaker 16: prevent a move to quash the original family trust. Rupert,

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Speaker 16: arguing that only Lachlan can maintain his empire's commercial value,

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Speaker 16: trying to keep the legal proceedings under ramps, but outlets

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Speaker 16: including The New York Times, Washington Post, AP Reuter's are

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Speaker 16: demanding access to the hearings over the thirty two billion

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Speaker 16: dollar in New Zealand Murdock empire. Meantime, horror of horrors

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Speaker 16: for Rupert and his fifth wife, for Elaina Zakova or

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Speaker 16: whatever her name is. But his son James has just

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Speaker 16: endorsed Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, all right, mate, we'll see it Friday. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: it very much, Richard, unlouded states RFK. I thought this

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Speaker 2: was sorted, but it wasn't. I told you that he

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Speaker 2: was stuck on the ballot in various swing states after

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Speaker 2: withdrawing in supporting Trump. So I thought he was stuck

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Speaker 2: because they couldn't do anything about it apart from go

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Speaker 2: to court. They went to court and they won, and

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Speaker 2: so then he was off the ballot. But then the

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Speaker 2: people in Michigan decided they needed to go to court again,

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Speaker 2: so they went to the Supreme Court and the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court rule five to two overturning the appeals court decision

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Speaker 2: that had removed him, and the Secretary of State got

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Speaker 2: involved in this, so anyway, he's back on. So we'll

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Speaker 2: keep you posted ten away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The my Hostle Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate US Talk.

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Speaker 2: Says he, Well, Mike, how brainless is the US system? Well?

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Speaker 2: Pretty brainless? Obviously, refuse JFK to be taken off the ballot.

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Speaker 2: Happily allow Biden off the nomination. It's a technicality, but

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Speaker 2: I take your point, Mike. The whole we're in as

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Speaker 2: a country and the eyewatering debt we have as a

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Speaker 2: standard to switch to TV on Sunday to hear Hipkin's

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Speaker 2: vision and plan for regaining government is to borrow more

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Speaker 2: for infrastructure and tax people more. Is he really that stupid?

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Speaker 2: You probably answered your own question, Mike, Parliament Thorndon that

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Speaker 2: part of Wellington's actually fairly vibrant and busy. Well, I'm

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Speaker 2: not surprised. It's where the government is up around Willis Street,

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Speaker 2: but beyond their manors, Wakefield Courtney Place, absolute hellhole of construction.

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Speaker 2: And closed shops, vagrants and homeless. It's heartbreaking. The sooner

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Speaker 2: that Parner goes, well, you voted for her. We have

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Speaker 2: an adult in charge, the better, Thank you, Rhonda. And

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Speaker 2: speaking of adults in charge, it is almost inconceivable that

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Speaker 2: Elderinezi is as inept as he is in Australia. But

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Speaker 2: he announced today that he's drawing up legislation. So he's

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Speaker 2: going to ban kids from going on social media, as

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Speaker 2: though that's a thing you can do, and so it

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Speaker 2: will be exactly the same. They haven'tdrawn up the legislation.

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Speaker 2: He thinks about sixteen's ripe. Sixteen ish above you can

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Speaker 2: go on social media. The legislation will involve the business

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Speaker 2: of simply are you eighteen or sixteen when you go

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Speaker 2: on social media. So when you go to TikTok, it

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Speaker 2: will go are you sixteen and you will go yes,

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Speaker 2: even though you're six, and that will be the end

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Speaker 2: of it. And the fact that he thinks that's going

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Speaker 2: to make any difference whatsoever is contained in the Sydney

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Speaker 2: Morning Herald headline I read yesterday, which was buried far

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Speaker 2: too far down the article. It said will it actually work?

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Speaker 2: And their opening line was no, country in the world

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Speaker 2: has rolled out a system like the one that the

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Speaker 2: e Safety Commission is proposing. Beginning middle an end of

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Speaker 2: story five away from seven, all.

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Speaker 1: The ins and the outs. It's the biz with business favor.

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Speaker 1: Take your business productivity to the vex level.

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Speaker 2: Where's thefts, lord of the rings? All that stuff? Peter Jackson.

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Speaker 2: They employ more than two thousand people, got a nice

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Speaker 2: little set up in mirrmar in Wellington. Funnily enough, one

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Speaker 2: truckloads of oscars. One of the top special effects companies,

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Speaker 2: of course in the world, and yet we get numbers

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Speaker 2: for the first time this morning. In basically I suspect

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Speaker 2: the Taylor of the New Zealand economy and perhaps Wellington's,

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Speaker 2: maybe even Hollywoods. They posted losses for the past two years.

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Speaker 2: How can does a company be so successful when so

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Speaker 2: many wards and still not make money. So for the

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Speaker 2: year to March of twenty four they lost eighty three million.

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Speaker 2: The year before that lost one hundred and seven. They're

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Speaker 2: disrupted by the strikes in Hollywood for the twenty four year,

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Speaker 2: though that only concided with a small drop in revenue

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Speaker 2: four thirty seven million down to four thirty so it

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Speaker 2: wasn't a major drop. They do expect to return to

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Speaker 2: profitability medium turn thanks to some big budget productions that

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Speaker 2: they've been involved in that aren't included in the twenty

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Speaker 2: four books. So this are the encouraging parts. So what

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Speaker 2: have they been involved in Dead Paul and Wolverine that's

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Speaker 2: gone well for them? Well, I hope it goes welcome

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Speaker 2: because it' certainly gone well at the box office, House

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Speaker 2: of Dragon and Planet of the Apes. So they've involved

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Speaker 2: in all those. By the way, the perfect couple, liv

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Speaker 2: Shreiver and Nicole Kidman, and a couple of people will going, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: do I know those faces from that sort of show? Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I started watching a bit of that yesterday afternoon once

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Speaker 2: I watched the New York Jets impale themselves against the

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Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers. And it's a short series,

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Speaker 2: it's six episodes. It's got quite a bit of buzz.

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Speaker 2: It's trash, but it's quality trash. In fact, one article

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Speaker 2: I read about it sits on this sometimes trash can

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Speaker 2: be treasured, all words to that effect, and that was

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Speaker 2: a good summation of what the program's about. It's got

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Speaker 2: an intriguing vibe about it, so if you're sort of

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Speaker 2: a bit, you know, bit of wanderlust in the afternoon,

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Speaker 2: and you know, you think, why don't I click on

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Speaker 2: the television and the debate's not going to do it

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Speaker 2: for you. The perfect couple might be a little something

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Speaker 2: too well, watch right, middle of the North Island. Bugget

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Speaker 2: what are we going to do about it? We'll get

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Speaker 2: into that after the news, which is next. Here as

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Speaker 2: news to.

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Speaker 1: Have said, the big news, bold opinions, the Mic Hosking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts across residential,

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Speaker 1: commercial and rural news togs.

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Speaker 2: Had been seven past seven is Winstone Mills have made

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Speaker 2: their announcement. Hundreds of jobs have lost in the center

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Speaker 2: of the North Island, and the power price debates sparked

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Speaker 2: back up again. Octopus Energy has operated here for a

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Speaker 2: couple of years, but the major players in Britain, they've

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Speaker 2: got these sites on the electricity Authority. Their COO, as

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Speaker 2: Margaret Cooney is well, it's Margaret morning to you.

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Speaker 15: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to be a little bit careful here

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Speaker 2: are you using this to push your barrow where jobs

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Speaker 2: are lost? Because I know you're one of those retailers

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Speaker 2: who doesn't like the gent tailor model. Is that what

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Speaker 2: that's all about.

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Speaker 13: I think this.

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Speaker 21: Situation demonstrates the problems in the market. So the prices

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Speaker 21: in the contracts market, which these large industrial customers rely on,

658
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Speaker 21: have been elevated well above average price of new generation

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Speaker 21: for six years. So six years is enough time for

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Speaker 21: new generation to be built. It's enough time for intervention

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Speaker 21: that electro feel authority. So you're absolutely right that I'm

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Speaker 21: highlighting the issue, but it's because it's really important. Electricity

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Speaker 21: is really the lifeblood of the New Zealand economy.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. I'm just asking the question because I'm

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Speaker 2: not one hundred percent convinced it's purely power related this

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Speaker 2: particular job loss, So it could well be pulp and

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Speaker 2: logs and stuff like that, but that's not your domain.

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Speaker 2: Could you defend to any degree what has been said

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Speaker 2: when the previous government and power onslow is in play.

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Speaker 2: When Onslow's in play, Noe's investing in anything.

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Speaker 21: Look, I think the views of the market have identified

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Speaker 21: quite a number of competition issues, and if competition was

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Speaker 21: working well, we would have had new generation coming into market.

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Speaker 21: Things like Onslow are a bit of a distraction because

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Speaker 21: actually Onslow is a project that would have encouraged more

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Speaker 21: should in theory, have encouraged more renewable investment, that we

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Speaker 21: didn't see that through that period.

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Speaker 2: What about the reading report this week? As I have

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Speaker 2: the pipeline of what's been announced is stupendous when that

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Speaker 2: gets built, problem solved, isn't it.

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Speaker 21: No, that's not right because these projects aren't real until

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Speaker 21: they have finance committed to them. So if you go

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Speaker 21: through that pipeline and you look at what projects actually

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Speaker 21: have finance committed to them.

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Speaker 2: Isn't there money the law for the stuff you make

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Speaker 2: it green? People can't throw money at you fast enough.

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 21: One of the problems is that many international players would

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Speaker 21: like to enter the New Zealand market. We're one of

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Speaker 21: those that we've identified that there are problems with competition

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Speaker 21: and the concentration of the gentailers and ultimately you need

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Speaker 21: to get to those structural issues which have been identified

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Speaker 21: by the OECD. So earlier and journe they came out

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Speaker 21: with the report showing that there were barriers to compet

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Speaker 21: in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: And where I think I do agree with you this EA.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what they do I mean, are

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Speaker 2: they asleep as anyone turned up at the office.

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Speaker 14: What do they do?

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Speaker 21: Well, Look, they've got a spectatory objective in the long

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Speaker 21: term mints of New Zealand consumers. So let's hope this

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Speaker 21: morning they.

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Speaker 18: Focus on that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, nice to talk to you, appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: Margaret Kuner, who's the octopus? The Energy Chief Operating Office?

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Speaker 2: A ten minutes past seven? So outside the power scrap

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Speaker 2: the mill closure, massive blow of course for regional New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: You've got a couple of meals, two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: jobs just like that. You've got the chateau problem on going.

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Speaker 2: Fucker Papa, that's a mess. So the whole regions in

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Speaker 2: real trouble. The Minister for Regional Development, the Associate Energy

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Speaker 2: Minister as well, Shanged Jones, as we this morning to you,

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Speaker 2: is this about power or is it about pulp and logs?

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Speaker 9: Ah. We can't control in New Zealand, Mike, the commodity prices,

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Speaker 9: we can't control. Foreign exchange. We can't control it. Just

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Speaker 9: exp at the end of the Eutumomica railway line will trade.

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Speaker 9: One thing we can control those is the structure and

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Speaker 9: the competitiveness of our power prices, and until such time

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Speaker 9: we start to look at options of breaking up the

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Speaker 9: power of each gent tailors, who quite frankly, have ruled

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Speaker 9: over various governments, intimidated them that your last speaker, I think,

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Speaker 9: if there's one thing I agree with her. Until we

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Speaker 9: boost competitiveness, you're going to see the aluminum sector telling

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Speaker 9: me they're going to start importing. The corn growers are

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Speaker 9: doubtful whether they're going to grow because they kin'd of

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Speaker 9: they're worried about the cost of energy. And course we've

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Speaker 9: got methodics briefing their start today about a substantial downgrade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Is the EA of any use to anybody

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Speaker 2: whatsoever or not?

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Speaker 9: Now, I've described the EA as a chocolate teapot, and

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Speaker 9: I stand by that because they've got all the powers

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Speaker 9: in the world. But I suspect that they've been intimidated

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Speaker 9: as well by the gent tailors. And look, it's up

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Speaker 9: to you and I as Keiwis and your listeners. Do

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Speaker 9: you want an economy where the price of power is

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Speaker 9: internationally competitive to keep businesses functioning? Or do you want

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Speaker 9: to dis value economy and turn it into an important model.

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Speaker 9: I don't want that, which is why Simeon Brown and

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Speaker 9: I are signing off. The signing off now the criteria,

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Speaker 9: and that criteria for the review of the power sector

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Speaker 9: will involve structural separation.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so how are you going to do that and

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Speaker 2: what timeframe is that on? Because you're starting that, you

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Speaker 2: got it. The rubbers hit the road now, it's real.

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Speaker 2: So announcements don't cut it. When do you do something

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Speaker 2: about the EA? When do you separate the gent tailors?

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Speaker 2: Over what time?

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Speaker 9: In fairness to Simim, he's already announced that he's looking

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Speaker 9: for a number of new members for the EA. I

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Speaker 9: think the power has always been there, but look, people

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Speaker 9: have there had this nervousness, they've had this skitterishness. Don't

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Speaker 9: touch the power system. We trusted the power system to

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Speaker 9: deliver outcomes they're boost international competitivists and national security.

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Speaker 15: They haven't.

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Speaker 9: So we have to change it simple and over what

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Speaker 9: time frame?

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Speaker 13: Though?

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Speaker 2: Because this is a here and now problem.

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Speaker 9: Yes, and I'm not walking away from that. And that's

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Speaker 9: a ghastly outcome the people and all Harkuni in that area.

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Speaker 9: But the power company solved the problem for Rio Tinto.

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Speaker 9: They had every opportunity and every incentive to come up

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Speaker 9: with a solution, Paunstone. They tried hard and I find

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Speaker 9: it's a very ghastly outcome. But obviously the review has

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Speaker 9: been signed off in short orders. The work's already taking

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Speaker 9: place with the Commerce Commission in the EA. But hey, mate,

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Speaker 9: the reality is we're having a crack at doing something

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Speaker 9: remarkably different from the days of the mid nineties, and

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Speaker 9: we've got to do it carefully, so to bugger up

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Speaker 9: the economy in the way that Jasinda and Meghan Woods

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Speaker 9: bug it up the gas industry with their juvenile announcement

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Speaker 9: in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate time, Shane Jones, Energy Minister, Regional Development Minister, thirteen

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Speaker 2: minutes past seven. A lot of came back on this

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Speaker 2: over the time. I find it incomprehensible, Mike that a

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Speaker 2: large company so reliant on power does not have a

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Speaker 2: fixed power. So you're talking hedging. They did. They hedged

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Speaker 2: for half. The rest was on the spot market. You

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Speaker 2: don't want to hedge against everything, because of course the

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Speaker 2: spot market is not always where the spot market was. Recently,

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Speaker 2: when the spot markets zero, you don't want to be

782
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Speaker 2: hedged up higher than that. But they can do nothing

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Speaker 2: about it. But there is in there somewhere a story

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Speaker 2: about the price of commodities, has Shane alluded to briefly,

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Speaker 2: And might I also make a pleader Mike Ryan, who's

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Speaker 2: the CEO, possibly the chief financial Officer's a guy called

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Speaker 2: Glenn Whiting. You got a front. You've got to be public.

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Speaker 2: You cannot have the sort of effect on a region

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Speaker 2: the way you have. And I am not saying your

790
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Speaker 2: decisions right or wrong. I'm simply saying you've got to

791
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Speaker 2: be accountable. You've got to explain yourself because there's a

792
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Speaker 2: lot of questions at play here that I have for you,

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Speaker 2: one of which is how much is power and how

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Speaker 2: much is locks? And is it just an industry that

795
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Speaker 2: was going nowhere anyway? And a bad power bill for

796
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Speaker 2: a couple of months tipped you over the edge. And

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Speaker 2: the real story is the commodity not the power price.

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Speaker 2: Are you're blaming the power companies needlessly? Or is the

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Speaker 2: power price real? And I can never get those answers

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Speaker 2: if you don't answer the phone and hold yourself to

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Speaker 2: some sort of account for them.

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Speaker 2: I'll ask you whether it's doable in a moment as

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Speaker 2: an idea.

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Speaker 14: Do you like it? No?

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Speaker 19: I don't like it as an idea. I just don't

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Speaker 19: think it's practical. But it's not helpful for young people

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Speaker 19: navigating digital spaces either.

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Speaker 2: No, exactly.

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Speaker 19: All the excerpts say it's not a good idea.

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Speaker 2: So it's not a good idea, and it's not even workable.

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Speaker 2: It's not workable, isn't. I mean if you ask somebody

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Speaker 2: are they sixteen or eighteen or whatever the case may be,

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Speaker 2: they're not going to answer correctly if they don't want to,

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Speaker 2: are they?

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Speaker 14: No?

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Speaker 9: No, I think you.

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Speaker 19: Probably had a fake Ida when you were when you

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Speaker 19: were younger, you know, so young people will find way

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Speaker 19: to get onto the channels that they want to get

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Speaker 19: onto if it's the popular channel that they want to

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Speaker 19: be on.

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Speaker 2: So can I just congratulate?

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Speaker 15: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Do you when you said I had a face ID

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Speaker 2: when I was younger. When I was younger, they didn't

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Speaker 2: have the internet. So I'm a great deal older than

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Speaker 2: you clearly think I am. But thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for that because you've you've lifted me up immeasurably for

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Speaker 2: the day. But no, I'm correct and saying no one

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Speaker 2: anyway has done this, have they? And they just can't.

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Speaker 19: Well, I was listening to the South Australian Premiere talking

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Speaker 19: about how Florida had had enacted some sort of law,

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Speaker 19: but you know, you could just drive over the over

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Speaker 19: the barrier line and you're in a new state and

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Speaker 19: you can access again. So yeah, like I say, provision

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Speaker 19: doesn't work. Fixing the core of the problem, which is

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Speaker 19: the content, which is the you know, the platforms allowing

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Speaker 19: access to that content, that's really important. And so I

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Speaker 19: think it's worth while putting pressure on the platforms and saying, hey,

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Speaker 19: you need to be doing more to protect young people

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Speaker 19: under the age of six, but banning them will just

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Speaker 2: Well done, Katie, appreciate your expertise. Katie Brown one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite guests. Let's get her on again. Any old

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Speaker 2: subject doesn't really matter as long as she flatters me.

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Speaker 2: Now the cockup. Speaking of social media and tech, the

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Speaker 2: cockup that the Inland Revenue Department, as engineer gives us say,

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Speaker 2: has given us a good insight into how the public service,

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Speaker 2: apart from anything else, is run. They hand our information,

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Speaker 2: your information, my information over to Google and Facebook.

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Speaker 13: Et cetera.

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Speaker 2: They do this so they can better tailor their advertising.

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Speaker 2: Even at this point, this early point, surely there's a

891
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Speaker 2: couple of large red flags here. Firstly, I would argue

892
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Speaker 2: there's a patriotic duty for all government funded agencies to

893
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Speaker 2: at least pause and ask themselves. Given the relationship with

894
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Speaker 2: social media and the local media and ripping off of

895
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Speaker 2: locally created content and making money from it. Whether the

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Speaker 2: government should be throwing more at them, while at the

897
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Speaker 2: same time allegedly trying to cut some sort of revenue

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Speaker 2: deal where the international players come to the table and

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Speaker 2: actually pay for the content they're ripping off. Secondly, and

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Speaker 2: more importantly, the info the IRD has has been gained

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Speaker 2: by compulsion. We have no choice but to hand over

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Speaker 2: our details to them. At what point did they gain

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Speaker 2: the right to on sell them to another party, far

904
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Speaker 2: less an international one with as the record shows, and

905
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Speaker 2: multiple jurisdictions, not a lot of interest in behaving in

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Speaker 2: a way that doesn't attract an outsized amount of attention

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Speaker 2: to the ways of doing business. I mean, from America

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Speaker 2: to Europe to Britain. How many times have these players

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Speaker 2: been called before committees and tribunals and inquiries to answer

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Speaker 2: questions about their practices, records, business approach, revenue generation in general,

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Speaker 2: omni presence in people's lives. IRD will tell you our

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Speaker 2: details are safe, The names, the ages, the serial numbers

913
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Speaker 2: are confidential. They've been hashed. I think that's the term.

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Speaker 2: That's where they take letters and all that sort of

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Speaker 2: thing and turn them into numbers and keys. But have

916
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Speaker 2: they are they really now? People, especially those on social media,

917
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Speaker 2: they give them a lot of themselves the way, of course,

918
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Speaker 2: on a regular basis, often not even realizing it. But

919
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Speaker 2: the idea are different. We had no choice, we weren't asked,

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Speaker 2: We didn't give permission. That needs to be addressed asking.

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Speaker 2: That's before we come to TikTok. I've been on the

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Speaker 2: TikTok this morning. Actually, somebody said to me, Hey, have

923
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Speaker 2: you seen TikTok Ministry of Education TikTok page. This is

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Speaker 2: the official Ministry of Education TikTok page. They've got thirteen

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Speaker 2: thousand follow us. What losers are following the education departments

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Speaker 2: TikTok page thirteen thousand?

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Speaker 22: Well, how many people work for the education?

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Speaker 2: Very good point. Very good points can pulsory when you

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Speaker 2: join six hundred and eighty three likes. They're posting stories

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Speaker 2: of students achieving stuff. That's what they do, fair enough,

931
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Speaker 2: a little bit uplifting, nothing wrong with that. They used

932
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Speaker 2: this post caption Besties Please for real or Besties pls

933
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Speaker 2: for real to encourage kids to go to school. So

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Speaker 2: what they've got is what they've got is a picture.

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Speaker 2: It's just a picture. It's a brightly colored picture with

936
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Speaker 2: lots of bright fluorescent type colors. There's some white fluffy clouds.

937
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Speaker 2: Nothing's happening in the picture. Is just a photo. It's

938
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Speaker 2: not moving. Some white fluffy clouds against a beautiful azure

939
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Speaker 2: blue sky. There's a balloon, little balloon in the distance.

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Speaker 2: There's some rainbows. Somebody, I assume an aerial specialist with

941
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Speaker 2: a plane with smoke coming out in the back, has

942
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Speaker 2: scrawled a love heart across the sky. There's a leaping

943
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Speaker 2: dolphin coming out from these beautiful clear blue waters. And

944
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Speaker 2: below the waters you can see it's clearly not the

945
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Speaker 2: Great Barrier reef because it's crystal clear, the corals alive,

946
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Speaker 2: and there are a beautiful tropical fishes swimming everywhere, not

947
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Speaker 2: swimming because it's a still picture. Anyway. It just says

948
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Speaker 2: in the middle of this picture on their TikTok account,

949
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Speaker 2: go to school, Go to school. That post has twenty

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Speaker 2: five thousand likes and one hundred and sixty one thousand views.

951
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Speaker 2: Someone commented is it ToxS, saying they weren't at school

952
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Speaker 2: because they're sick, and the Ministry replied, we hope you

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Speaker 2: feel better soon, Besting. That's what the ministry said, We

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Speaker 2: hope you feel better soon, Besting. Someone's paying for this,

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Speaker 2: and I suspect it's us, and we're going to get

956
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Speaker 2: to the bottom of it. And that's the music in

957
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Speaker 2: the background. We're going to get to the bottom of

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Speaker 2: it and see how much.

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Speaker 1: It is demanding the answers from the decision makers. The

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Speaker 1: mic asking breakfast with a Vita, retirement Communities, Life your

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Speaker 1: Way News Tog said.

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Speaker 2: Beside from Blair, Mike, the power price was the final

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Speaker 2: straw log prices at around one hundred hour price needs

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Speaker 2: to be one twenty to wash its face. Bigger players

965
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Speaker 2: will ride the ups and downs out, but throwing the

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Speaker 2: energy rises it's unsustainable, Mike. The idea of broken a

967
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Speaker 2: major trust obligation. I would have thought so, And Mike,

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Speaker 2: I've complained to Willis and the Privacy Commissioner on that one.

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Speaker 2: We'll good luck and see where that goes. Twenty three

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Speaker 2: minutes away from eight, we get politics webess Days, Mark Mitchell,

971
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Speaker 2: Jimy Anderson after eight o'clock at debate Day in America.

972
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Speaker 2: The last one changed the course of the race. Of course,

973
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Speaker 2: So all eyes on Philly today as Donald Trump lines

974
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Speaker 2: against Kamala Harris. Seeing in common title film and special

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Speaker 2: assistant to George Bush Scott Jennings with us, good morning.

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Speaker 15: Good morning, glad to be with you now.

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Speaker 2: By why have a singular event in a big rice?

978
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Speaker 2: What white do you place on today's event?

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Speaker 15: Well, it's a big deal because it may be the

980
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Speaker 15: only debate between Trump and Harris. Historically, presidential debates have

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Speaker 15: not moved the numbers in a huge way, although earlier

982
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Speaker 15: this summer in June, we did see a debate obviously

983
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Speaker 15: changed the campaign dramatically because it led to the dropout

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Speaker 15: of Joe Biden. This is Kamala Harris's first chance to

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Speaker 15: do something that's rather unscripted. Most of what she has

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Speaker 15: done so far has been off of a teleprompter behind

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Speaker 15: the podium. So for a lot of the American people,

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Speaker 15: they know her name, but they don't know much about her,

989
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Speaker 15: and this debate may be the first chance to learn.

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Speaker 2: The Harris interview I watched, it's one of those things.

991
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Speaker 2: She said nothing and walked away from it seemingly unskuyised.

992
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Speaker 2: How much interest is there in the specifics as opposed

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Speaker 2: to the vibes.

994
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Speaker 15: Well, I do think people want to know which Kamala

995
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Speaker 15: Harris were getting here when she ran for president. Before

996
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Speaker 15: she ran on quite a liberal or progressive platform. Now

997
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Speaker 15: she's saying that she no longer believes in many of

998
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Speaker 15: those things. So how she handles those questions tonight about

999
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Speaker 15: you know you believe this? Now you say you don't?

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Speaker 2: You know that?

1001
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Speaker 15: That gives you an idea of what kind of a

1002
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Speaker 15: leader someone would be. So I do think there's some

1003
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Speaker 15: interest in it. Plus, she's obviously Joe Biden's vice president.

1004
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Speaker 15: He's not terribly popular. I'm wondering is she going to

1005
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Speaker 15: separate herself from President Biden in any way by saying,

1006
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Speaker 15: for instance, you know, he made this decision, I disagreed

1007
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Speaker 15: with it. I would have done it differently. I suspect

1008
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Speaker 15: something like that's going to have to happen at some point.

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Speaker 2: What about the frecking decision? For example? Do Americans look

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Speaker 2: at that and go, she count make up of mind?

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Speaker 2: Or do they guy right, she's on the right side

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Speaker 2: of it. Last at least we got there.

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Speaker 15: Well, I think if you specifically live in Pennsylvania, which

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Speaker 15: I regard as the most important state, fracking is a

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Speaker 15: big deal. It has revitalized the state's economy and has

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Speaker 15: you know, been just a huge part of what's going

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Speaker 15: on with the energy his history in Pennsylvania, she used

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Speaker 15: to oppose it because that was the fashionable thing to

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Speaker 15: do on the American left. Now she says she wouldn't

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Speaker 15: oppose it because obviously she needs to win the state

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Speaker 15: of Pennsylvania. So again, that plus a number of other topics,

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Speaker 15: how she handles those flip flops is going to tell

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Speaker 15: us a lot about her political skill tonight, and Americans

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Speaker 15: are interested in what she has to say about that. Obviously,

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Speaker 15: liberals or progressives want a ban on fracking, but most

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Speaker 15: people think we should be producing our own energy here.

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Speaker 15: So it's a tightrope for her to try to balance

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Speaker 15: what her base would want versus what perhaps swing voters

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Speaker 15: in Pennsylvania would want.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Pennsylvania one of the important swing sites, and

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Speaker 2: looking at an averageable the polls, they're all within the

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Speaker 2: madin of era. Is it really that tight? Do you believe?

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Speaker 2: The polls in general?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, very close race across the board in all the

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Speaker 15: swing states Pennsylvania included. It is very close. Nationally, there

1036
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Speaker 15: have been three national high quality polls in the last

1037
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Speaker 15: couple of days, one had Trump up, one, one had

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Speaker 15: him down one one, and one had it tied. And

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Speaker 15: so it is very close, much closer, frankly than the

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Speaker 15: polling showed in twenty twenty or twenty sixteen. So we're

1041
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Speaker 15: in a very, very very close race. Now. Some people

1042
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Speaker 15: think that favors Trump because there are people who are

1043
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Speaker 15: just hard to poll who end up showing up to

1044
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Speaker 15: vote for Trump, and he tends to do better than

1045
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Speaker 15: he polls. But I regarded as close, and I think

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Speaker 15: either campaign could win any of these swing states that

1047
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Speaker 15: are in play.

1048
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Speaker 2: What about Trump and is attacking of her character, of

1049
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Speaker 2: her personality, and whether that grows his vote, do you

1050
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Speaker 2: place weight on that or not.

1051
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Speaker 15: I think he should stick to the issues. I think

1052
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 15: if he gets into a personality contest, he's unlikely to prevail.

1053
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Speaker 15: I think if he gets into a contest about who

1054
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Speaker 15: would represent change in America, he's likely to win the race.

1055
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Speaker 15: Most people want change, they don't think the country's off

1056
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Speaker 15: on the right track. They're unhappy about the economic policies

1057
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Speaker 15: of the current administration. If you stick to those things,

1058
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Speaker 15: and if you're Donald Trump and you say, well, why

1059
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 15: would you leave the same people in charge that you're

1060
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 15: already mad at. I think that's a hand to get

1061
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Speaker 15: into a personality contest or to an insult contest with

1062
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Speaker 15: someone I don't think serves as purposes tonight.

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Speaker 2: Can you call it right now with any level of

1064
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Speaker 2: confidence or not?

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Speaker 23: Not?

1066
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Speaker 2: The debate the rice, absolutely not.

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Speaker 15: I don't have any level of confidence. I wouldn't hazard

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Speaker 15: to make a guess. I think it is a total

1069
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Speaker 15: jump ball. I will say I think Donald Trump is

1070
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Speaker 15: in better shape today than he was in either twenty

1071
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Speaker 15: sixteen or twenty twenty. In both of those races, he

1072
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Speaker 15: was behind, very few people thought he had a chance

1073
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Speaker 15: to win. That is not the case this time. By

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Speaker 15: some measures, He's more popular and thought of better today

1075
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Speaker 15: than he was in either of those races. So I

1076
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Speaker 15: think Trump's in better shape. But it's a total total

1077
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Speaker 15: jump ball, and either campaign could prevail, and this debate

1078
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Speaker 15: tonight is going to be one of the most monumental

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Speaker 15: points in the race because it may be the last

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Speaker 15: time we see them together.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, Scott, appreciate your time. Go well, well, that's Scott

1082
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: Jennings form of special assistant to George Bush. You see

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Speaker 2: him occasionally on CNN one PM New Zealand out time

1084
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Speaker 2: eighteen away from eight pass by Kadrian Nui to Aston

1085
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Speaker 2: sixty four million per years. That report correct, apparently so

1086
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 2: thirty million pounds. He signed up long term become a

1087
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: shareholder within the F one company or part of the company.

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00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 2: There's a video out there. They had a press conference

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Speaker 2: with Lawrence Stroll in front of some assembled guests. He

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Speaker 2: will transform. I alluded to a piece that you can

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00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: look up on the BBC recently that gives an insight

1092
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 2: into who he is, why he's so valuable, why so

1093
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 2: many people were chasing him for Ari was chasing him,

1094
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 2: Aston were chasing him. He got fed up at Red Bull,

1095
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 2: so left. He's a good story. He's a fascinating individual, Mike.

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Speaker 2: A benefit of the referendum on local MURRAI wards may

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00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 2: increase vote to turn out next year. This could be

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Speaker 2: a bonus. What do you reckon, Paul? I think you're right,

1099
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Speaker 2: and if I don't think you're right, I hope you're right.

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Speaker 2: The more people who vote in local body elections. Part

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Speaker 2: of the reason I'm absolutely one hundred present convinced is

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00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 2: we are in the mess where in terms of councils

1103
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: and debt and the downgrading of credit ratings and all

1104
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: the other shambles that's going on is because no one cares.

1105
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 2: And when nobody cares, the crazies get let loose. And

1106
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: look what the crazies do when we're not paying attention

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Speaker 2: or participating.

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Speaker 1: Seventeen to two, The Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by the News talks at me.

1110
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Speaker 2: Poor old Kerry's very upset this morning. She's just accosted

1111
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 2: me in the kitchen, which is not the first time

1112
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 2: that's happened. I can tell you, but the details will

1113
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: be in the book eventually. Dave Grohl's had a child

1114
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: out of wedlock, she's claiming this morning, and exactly exactly, Glynn, exactly.

1115
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: His head's almost fallen off his shoulders. Dave Groll, lovable guy,

1116
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 2: likable guy, child out of wetlock. You think you know people?

1117
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 2: The lakes are filling up. I don't want to be

1118
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: all down about the weather this morning, so I'm going

1119
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: to give you something uplifting. Meridian. They've got some hydro lakes.

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Speaker 2: They like them full. They're above their ninety one year

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Speaker 2: average for the first time since May so this is

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00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: good poo khaki that's above. That's the upper couple of

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Speaker 2: meters since its lowest point in late August, there's a

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Speaker 2: further eighty to one hundred and sixty meals of rain coming,

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Speaker 2: huge inflows into Manapuri and Tiana both At the top

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Speaker 2: of the arrange is another two hundred mills of brain forecast.

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00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 2: It rains in that part of the world a lot.

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Speaker 2: We can rely on strong generation out of Manipuri because

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Speaker 2: of all of that. Snow storage is helping the way

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00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 2: Tacki catchment. That's increased to eighty six percent on average,

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00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: up from eighty three percent last week. Snow milk contributes

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00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: a lot. The wind farms blowing blowing forty one gigs.

1133
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: How's your win farm forty one gigs? Are when farm youtiful? No,

1134
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have a clue what that means, but if

1135
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: you say it the right way, we get uplifted by it. Now,

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00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: that brings me to the weirdest story I saw yesterday,

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00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: and it involves Gareth Kennan, who I've got a lot

1138
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: of time for. He works for in for Metrics, and

1139
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: he worked out where it's cheaper in the country to

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00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: rent than buy. And the answer is nowhere which gives

1141
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 2: you an insight or know where you want to live.

1142
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: And that's the controversial part of this comment, which gives

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00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: you an insight into why we're so desperate to own

1144
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: houses in this country. We love owning houses. That will

1145
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: never change. In the subsession with Archstome expansion to own

1146
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 2: a home, we bleed to own a home. So the

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00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: more expensive parts of the country Queenstown, obviously, Tapo, Hastings, Auckland,

1148
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 2: Central Otigo, Queenstown, it's three times as expensive to rent

1149
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 2: than it is to three times expensive to own that

1150
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 2: it is to rent. So where is it better cheaper

1151
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: to own than rent? There are only a couple of places.

1152
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: One of them is called Cara and one of them

1153
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: is called Wairoa. Can I venture the slightly controversial view

1154
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 2: that these are not places you necessarily want to live,

1155
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: and even Gareth points this out. He says, unless you're

1156
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: particularly confident in your long term employment and ability to

1157
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 2: earn money. The fireplaces where buying is cheaper than renting Wairoa, Cara, Ruapehu,

1158
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 2: Buller and Taua. And even then it's it's touch and go.

1159
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 15: Well, what's wrong with I.

1160
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 22: Thought that's where Matt Mitchell was always going to Wada.

1161
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 22: I thought he loves it there.

1162
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: Because they've had some troubles cleanned. Is why Mark in

1163
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 2: his capacity as Emergency Management Minister, has been going to Waira.

1164
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 2: So it is it is cheaper there. But so what

1165
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: it says, essentially, there's nowhere in this country. Sorry, ten

1166
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Speaker 2: minutes away from eight.

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Speaker 1: Mike cost gilbreakfast. It's with al Vida Retirement Communities news dogs.

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Speaker 2: Head been Mike. The weather's fabulous where I'm walking in Riba.

1169
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: Janet absolutely of no use to us whatsoever. I mean,

1170
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: have you've seen a hydro lake in Orea lately? Have

1171
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 2: you got any snow melt? No, you haven't, Janus, And

1172
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 2: you're not helping the power supply. And unless you're not

1173
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 2: helping the power supply, we're not interested. Step it away

1174
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: from it. So we get a look today what might

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00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 2: be the future of transports being developed quietly in christ

1176
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 2: Uage over the past five years. Whoosh, I don't know

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Speaker 2: that were that sort of emphasis. Whish it's a mix

1178
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 2: of ride hailing and urban gondola anyway. The CEO is

1179
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 2: doctor Chris Ellington, who has well us. Chris very good

1180
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 2: morning to you. Hey, good mind make it's a lot,

1181
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: it's a lot of it's a lot of cable. You

1182
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 2: don't like, you don't like the anyway, there's a lot

1183
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: of cable, isn't it. I mean we're we're in Christ.

1184
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 2: You to know you're starting out in Queen Done. Where

1185
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 2: in Christ would you envisage it going from? And two?

1186
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 12: Oh?

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00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 18: I know definitely. So we're we credit washed to connect

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00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 18: key locations to key locations to things like from the

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00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 18: airports downtown or connecting Takaha a new sports stadium down

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Speaker 18: to the sports and entertainment area around around the Avon River,

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00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 18: or connecting connecting hotels the hospitals to remote car parks.

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00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 18: Those are the sort of key connections we're looking to create.

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00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 2: Does it get to a point where it's two complicated

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00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: cable wise, No, because we're.

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Speaker 18: Working on really simple infrastructures. We took a real first

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00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 18: principle to approach and break it down to keep the

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00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 18: infrastructure really simple, really cheap and cost effective with low maintenance,

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Speaker 18: and then put smart vehicles moving on that simple infrastructure.

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Speaker 18: So long cable spans about one hundred and fifty meters,

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00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 18: so there's mineral towers and then rail is to be

1201
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 18: able to navigate around through the complicated urban environment that

1202
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 18: have to sit an urban environment and give you a

1203
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 18: great experience when you're on it.

1204
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 2: And the cost per meter versus an uber versus a tram,

1205
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: versus a bus versus a train, So the.

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00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 18: Cost to install it's around about five million dollars a

1207
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 18: kilometer to install, depending on the complexity of the network

1208
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Speaker 18: in him and the little stations you put. Compare that

1209
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 18: to a road in an urban space, you're around about

1210
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 18: twenty million a kilometer to build a road, and I

1211
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 18: think light rail and Auckland was north of one hundred

1212
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 18: million to kilometer. It's a really cost effective re infrastructure

1213
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 18: to install.

1214
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: And the administration of getting it ticked off is that

1215
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 2: easy or harder?

1216
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Speaker 18: Or that's actually not too bad? I mean sort of

1217
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 18: works for all the legislations, does everyone. But because we're

1218
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 18: operating above the land and in the year rights, we've

1219
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 18: worked really closely with Locker Katahi and the Ministry of

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Speaker 18: Transport and we have security of rights for the project

1221
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 18: we're putting down in Quenstown to operate above that space,

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00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 18: and we is actually quite the legislation to allow things

1223
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 18: like this to work in the existing roading corridors.

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Speaker 2: How does it fit in with Amazon delivering pizzas by drone.

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00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 18: Well, the thing with delivering drones or delivering robots is

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00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 18: the robots still have to get close enough to your

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00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 18: house to be able to deliver your packages. And the

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00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 18: way most of Amazon systems work and others as well

1229
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 18: have a big distribution network are hub by the epport,

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00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 18: I mean smaller ones located around the city. So they've

1231
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 18: still got to get pass us from the big ones

1232
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 18: the small ones. And that's where watching can work as well.

1233
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 18: Get those delivery vans off the road, moving things closer

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00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 18: to the smaller distribution thinkers, freeing up room on the

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00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 18: road for more youth from you and Meeter do a

1236
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 18: daily commute.

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Speaker 2: Give me a date when you can come on this

1238
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,919
Speaker 2: program and say it's working. It's the jump on board.

1239
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 18: So the technology is working. We've got there working at

1240
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 18: quarter scale again and our at top suit of tystem

1241
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 18: Or they're actually here in crash Hitch and then we

1242
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:37,959
Speaker 18: early next year we'll be doing shovels in the ground

1243
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 18: and in Queen's Down to build the first pilot projects

1244
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 18: that should should be ritable by twenty seven.

1245
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Speaker 2: Why is it top secret?

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Speaker 18: We're working with a very large US corporate to help

1247
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 18: them solve some issues on their corporate campuses where they're

1248
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 18: trying to move one hundred thousand people around emphasis every day. No,

1249
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 18: not going. They've got some other issues of viewers.

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Speaker 2: I just good luck, Chris. I appreciate its time very much.

1251
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, doctor Chris Ellington. It is

1252
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Speaker 2: I think he was coming to us from coming to

1253
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: us from his top secret headquarters. The old gondola. They

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Speaker 2: go up to fifty kilometers an hour, by the way.

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00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 2: I will come back to this later. If somebody works

1256
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 2: at NIB, who are an insurance company, can you answer

1257
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: the bloody phone. We've been trying to ring you for

1258
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: weeks and then when we can't get on to you,

1259
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: we've emailed you twice. You have an email back. You're

1260
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: not answering your phone. Why are you so bloody hopeless?

1261
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 22: This is just me talking ABO because you keep going

1262
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 22: them instead of an IB.

1263
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 2: Well, NIB, in IB whatever it is. Answer your phone anyway,

1264
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 2: news for you, and then we'll get into the politics

1265
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Speaker 2: of the week.

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Speaker 1: Your trusted source for news and fuse the mic. Asking

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Speaker 8: want Diba, don't wan like this, Honestly, I'd rather see.

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Speaker 2: It's obviously not hard to convince somebody to record an

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Speaker 2: and I can tell you I knew Randy Newman, and

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Speaker 2: you know Randy Newman. To paraphrase, I'm going to write

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Speaker 2: tracks for this, sixteen tracks and fifty two minutes of

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Speaker 2: toe tapping fun. It is eight minutes past eight for

1281
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Speaker 2: Politics Wednesday, Mark Mintell, Jimmy Anderson, very good morning to you.

1282
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: Good morning right now. A couple of quick ones. Actually,

1283
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 2: didn't I ask you this without being too disresponded. Actually

1284
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Speaker 2: I'm not being disrespectable to anyone. So I'm watching you

1285
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 2: guys in Parliament yesterday. You're paying respects to the Maury King. Fabulous,

1286
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Speaker 2: that's what Parliament does. Why then does the whole day

1287
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Speaker 2: have to stop?

1288
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Speaker 10: I just can't out of a mark of respect, like

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Speaker 10: it's a I guess it's a it's sort of customary

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Speaker 10: really when a significant person passes away that you do

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Speaker 10: those do those commmentary speeches and then and then then

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Speaker 10: we're durne the day. So it's usually a mark of respect.

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Speaker 2: Is that it's like me going to a funeral at

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Speaker 2: ten o'clock in the morning and then going wrong. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's me done for the day. Then I'll go home.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't mean you don't respect the person

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Speaker 2: and you haven't laid down your mark, or you can

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Speaker 2: get on with life, can't you.

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Speaker 10: I would have been frying to keep on working. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: I would have been good with that.

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Speaker 2: There'll be rights.

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Speaker 23: Well, we did keep on working. It's just obviously we

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Speaker 23: went in the House and personally just week on legislation.

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Speaker 23: But I think the other thing too much is that

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Speaker 23: this is what has always happened. The last the House

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Speaker 23: rose as well, so that just following protocol.

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Speaker 2: Hey, is it true that you supported David Seymour and

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Speaker 2: cabinet the other day of the treaty Principal's bill.

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Speaker 23: Nice try.

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Speaker 2: Now let me get so you for Actually, Ginny Wellington,

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Speaker 2: are you like Greg O'Connor and he likes to swim

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Speaker 2: and a bit of pool in the harbor? What's that about?

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Speaker 10: Well, the hat River is good enough for me.

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Speaker 13: Thanks.

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Speaker 10: No, I wouldn't go in the harbor. That's always a

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Speaker 10: bit murky. Yeah, the oriental bait can be not bad

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Speaker 10: if at summertime. But check the warnings exactly.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's trying to I mean, good on for trying

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Speaker 2: to spreak the place. But do you believe is he

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Speaker 2: a well known swimmer? Is he regularly in the harbor?

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Speaker 14: Is it?

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Speaker 10: I haven't seen him personally.

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Speaker 19: He's good at rugby.

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Speaker 10: He still does rugby like Mark does.

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Speaker 18: They both look like they're nearly going to die into

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Speaker 18: the game, but they.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, he's pretty active.

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Speaker 10: Hee.

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Speaker 18: He's done coast to coast as well.

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Speaker 15: I think.

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Speaker 23: Actually, okay, he can swim when he's a type police

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Speaker 23: officer and when he went through college you would have

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Speaker 23: had to to the bottom of the pool and retrieved

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Speaker 23: the bricks.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we can all die to the bottom of

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Speaker 2: the pool and retree for brick mark not that hard.

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Speaker 2: That's that's different between swimming in Wellington harbor. Well Jenny,

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Speaker 2: what's your view of Wellington as a as a as

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Speaker 2: a local MP? Is it in trouble? Forget the politics

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Speaker 2: for a moment. Is it in trouble?

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Speaker 10: When you see businesses like Pindro have been sort of

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Speaker 10: a Wellington legion thirty eight years trading when they close down,

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Speaker 10: that's that's a real sign that things are in trouble.

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Speaker 10: So look, part of it is the cuts of the

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Speaker 10: public service that's definitely hit the you know, the I

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Speaker 10: guess what's the word, like I said, of the vibe

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Speaker 10: and Wellington paper are down and I think on top

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Speaker 10: of that economic conditions has contributed as well. So yeah,

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Speaker 10: coming into this morning that the new cars on the

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Speaker 10: road just as slowing down, a general feeling of a

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Speaker 10: bit of statonation.

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Speaker 2: Is there something for both of you given you were

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Speaker 2: and you were in Parliament as well, given government, Jinny,

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Speaker 2: but you Mark as well? Is there something going wrong

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Speaker 2: with the public service in Wellington that there's too many

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Speaker 2: of them at home and they need to be back downtown?

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Speaker 15: Well? I think.

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Speaker 23: No, I think that. Well, actually, when you look at

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Speaker 23: what the owner of the cafes that they closed. When

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Speaker 23: he was asked about he said, the big problem that

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Speaker 23: we've really noticed over the last few years is that

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Speaker 23: people are working from home, and of course the cycle

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Speaker 23: ways have been a mess of disruption for us for

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Speaker 23: customers getting to our business.

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Speaker 2: So I just wonder, is what you're saying, is what

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Speaker 2: everyone's saying. It's a perfect storm. So by the time

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Speaker 2: you got the cycle ways and the busways and the

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Speaker 2: construction and the people working from home and the layoffs

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Speaker 2: and the economy, it's no wonder they.

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Speaker 10: Are with The people don't have that extra money in

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Speaker 10: their pockets. So nack Mail's on the Wellington Show is

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Speaker 10: in the hospitality, he'll know really well that it's really

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Speaker 10: tough for people with that extra money to come out

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Speaker 10: and spend it in a restaurant or a cafe. They're

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Speaker 10: keeping that money to pay for their bills and to

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Speaker 10: pay for their groceries, and that directly impacts on the

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Speaker 10: Wellington economy. On top of that, we've had a number

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Speaker 10: of people laid off, So I think those two things

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Speaker 10: combined have been a big reason why there's been a

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Speaker 10: down team.

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Speaker 2: Actually, before I forget Ginny is it true that you

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Speaker 2: ring Nick Mills in the morning as Tinia from her

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Speaker 2: tire Ti or is that just a rumor?

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Speaker 10: I'd be Sheryl from the heart.

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Speaker 2: More in a moment, Ginny Anderson, Mark Mitchell thirteen Past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Cowed

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: It be caught a past eight. It's Politics Wednesday, Ginny Anderson,

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell with us as regards, and we ask you

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Speaker 2: too to have a look at it. Mark, what do

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Speaker 2: you make of the TikTok of the Ministry of Education.

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Speaker 2: So there's a picture of a dolphin and a rainbow

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Speaker 2: and some clear water, and it just says go to school.

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Speaker 10: It plays kind of a symphon on and.

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Speaker 2: It plays lovely music. Who's paying for that? What budget

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Speaker 2: would it come out of? And why didn't you guys

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Speaker 2: in looking for savings get them and tell them to

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Speaker 2: stop spending money for no particular purpose. Or do you

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Speaker 2: argue Mark that this is well spent money when suddenly

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Speaker 2: kids have turned up to school.

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Speaker 23: Well, it sounds like it's going viral, but you sent

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Speaker 23: it to the wrong person. I couldn't even look at

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Speaker 23: it because I don't even tick. But look, I think

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Speaker 23: that the problem was kids weren't going to school under

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Speaker 23: previous government. We've got to give the obviously trying, they're

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Speaker 23: obviously trying a few invent of out of the box techniques.

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Speaker 23: You know, it's obviously going viral. People are watching it.

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Speaker 18: They're watching it.

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Speaker 2: Are you a bit of a boomer? Mark saying it's

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Speaker 2: going viral when you haven't even got access to and

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Speaker 2: he just made its going viral up because everyone says

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Speaker 2: it goes viral.

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Speaker 18: Open this thing on I TikTok.

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Speaker 10: So I found a young person and got them to

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Speaker 10: open it because I'd the same thing. So I found

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Speaker 10: someone and they explained to me that this is a trend.

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Speaker 10: So it's that picture with any statement with that song

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Speaker 10: right as a trend currently.

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Speaker 2: That you would look at that, ginny and did you

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Speaker 2: a young person give you the information that that they

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Speaker 2: would then be propelled to go to school.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 10: We scrolled out and looked at all the kids who

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Speaker 10: were laughing at Christopher Luxe and the comments saying I'm

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Speaker 10: not at school.

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Speaker 13: That was.

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Speaker 18: So there were a lot of comedies for kids who

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Speaker 18: got it but.

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Speaker 9: Didn't go to tell.

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Speaker 23: Of course, the serious side to it is that we

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Speaker 23: got to get our kids correct.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I will hardily agree with that, and to be fair,

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Speaker 2: although I was a copywriter for a number of years

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Speaker 2: and in the creative department, coming up with a picture

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Speaker 2: of a dolphin and a rainbow to get them to

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Speaker 2: school wouldn't have been one of my first thoughts. But

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Speaker 2: there you go. Now I r d ginny the business

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Speaker 2: of them passing information on to our information on to

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Speaker 2: social media companies so they can better target tizing. Is

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Speaker 2: that fair in your view or not?

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Speaker 10: Probably not, And there's probably some privacy issues in there.

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Speaker 10: We're dealing with a bill right now Justice Committee around privacy.

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Speaker 10: So the general privacy rule is when you give your

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Speaker 10: information for a purpose, that can only be used for

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Speaker 10: the purpose you gave it for unless you can see otherwise.

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Speaker 10: So there would be some privacy rule issues around that,

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Speaker 10: I think.

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Speaker 2: So if they if they leapt over something, they shouldn't

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Speaker 2: have leapt over Mark in that sense, given they've already

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Speaker 2: handed that information.

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Speaker 15: Though to be.

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Speaker 23: Honestly, I'm not aware or across at all. That would

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Speaker 23: be Simon Watts as the minister. But look, I do

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Speaker 23: know this very strict rules around how people's private information

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Speaker 23: is handled so and if there is an issue that's

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Speaker 23: been raised with someone, I'm sure he's across it all right.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to do something about it?

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Speaker 14: Though?

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Speaker 2: If they have breached in someone, because because the point,

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Speaker 2: the main point being I have to give that information

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Speaker 2: to that company. I don't want to, but I have to,

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Speaker 2: and therefore they should be guarding that, shouldn't they bill

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Speaker 2: They can only.

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Speaker 16: Who is it.

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Speaker 10: They can only use it for the purpose that you've

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Speaker 10: given it to them for. That's the general rule.

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Speaker 23: And I think that theresienm breach or they haven't handled information.

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Speaker 23: Probably your wite expectations that Simon would of course so

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Speaker 23: catched on that.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to call Simon Watts social media in general,

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Speaker 2: seeing you're talking about committees and stuff. Jenny are Australia

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Speaker 2: across the Tasman of announced legislation. It won't work, but

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Speaker 2: they're going to ban kids under sixteen from accessing social media.

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Speaker 2: Could we look at that in this country? Would there

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Speaker 2: be any interest in looking at that in this country?

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Speaker 2: Is it even remotely possible?

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Speaker 10: Do you think it's going to be incredibly difficult to police?

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Speaker 10: And a lot of that is getting in the space

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Speaker 10: of pearance as well. So parents still have a role

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Speaker 10: to determine what their kids are seeing, and I think

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Speaker 10: the state getting involved and that too closely is going

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Speaker 10: to be incredibly difficult to try and enforce.

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Speaker 2: Mark the Windstone story, the jobs lost in the center

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Speaker 2: of the North Island, where does that blame lies? That

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01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 2: just an industry that's in trouble? Is that the power

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Speaker 2: business that's bugging in this country? Is it the economy?

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Speaker 18: What is it?

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Speaker 23: It sounds like a combination. I mean, obviously the you know,

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Speaker 23: the electricity price is affected, there's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 23: But I just I was listening to the show earlier.

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Speaker 23: I think you made absolutely the best point, and that

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Speaker 23: is the company itself needs to front up and explain

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Speaker 23: actually what's happened.

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Speaker 2: That's brilliant cool, you know.

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Speaker 23: I just think that that's the only way that we're

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Speaker 23: going to get absolute clarity on why that. Obviously, it's

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Speaker 23: awful for the people that have lost their jobs. You

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Speaker 23: know that the area has been hit hard over recent years.

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Speaker 23: The good news is we're starting to see inflation coming down,

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Speaker 23: come down, We're starting to see interest rates come down,

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Speaker 23: the confidence starting to come back, and the economy will

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Speaker 23: stick it up to get going, I hope.

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Speaker 2: So, speaking of which, Jinny Chris Hopkins and this idea

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Speaker 2: that we need some CGT or some wealth text and

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Speaker 2: you guys are going to go to twenty six with something.

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Speaker 2: Do you think New Zealand does hand on heart really

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Speaker 2: want a conversation about being taxed even more?

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Speaker 10: I think New Zealanders do want to talk about the

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Speaker 10: fact we have a problem with it tech system, that

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Speaker 10: we've got an aging population and you can't keep cutting

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Speaker 10: stuff worth still being able to provide the same levaw

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Speaker 10: of services. That is a bird problem and we need

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Speaker 10: to do something about it. So yep, I think New

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Speaker 10: Zealanders are ready for conversation about what our tech space is,

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01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 10: what we want to do as a country.

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Speaker 2: Good on, You're nice to see you both, Ginny Anderson,

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01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell and if anybody sees Greg O'Connor in the harbor,

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Speaker 2: there's a prize for the first photo that arrives at

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Speaker 2: at our office.

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Speaker 1: Eight twenty one The Costing Breakfast with the Jaguar MBS

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Speaker 1: News talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Now, when you're running a business, getting your name seen

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01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 2: as often as poss is key to success. Really seven

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Speaker 2: entrepreneurs are all about mobile visibility with their business message

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01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 2: on their cars and vehicles. Of course, Speedy Signs there

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01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 2: your answer. They can deck your car, ute truck, eye catching, graphics, wraps,

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Speaker 2: they do all of that, and you're already driving around

1528
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 2: town making deliveries, heading to job site, stuff like that,

1529
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 2: so you might as well take advantage of the traffic

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Speaker 2: and amplify your visibility. So speedy signs there. The country's

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01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 2: large just national sign signage company, you know, and and

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01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 2: when you got good signage on your vehicle, it's doing

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01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 2: a lot of selling for you. So you're just driving.

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01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 2: Even if you parked it, people are looking at your company,

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Speaker 2: your sign, your name. So imagine your sign written vehicle

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01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 2: parked outside, say a store that sells your product. You're

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01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 2: going to be top of mind for everyone that goes

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01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 2: into that shop, increasing the chances that your product is

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01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 2: going to get bought. See how it works. It's easy.

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Speaker 2: Speedy Signs. They'll make sure that your graphics look sharp

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01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 2: and professional. You give them a call eight hundred speedy,

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Speaker 2: super simple, eight hundred speedy. If you want to go

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Speaker 2: on luge, Speedy Signs one word Speedy Signs, dot co,

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Speaker 2: dot m z Posky. Right, So here's the dolphin meme thing.

1545
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 2: We're onto it, there being Education ministry are so with it.

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01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 2: It's incredible. So the Symphony dolphin meme has been all

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01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: over TikTok for ages and users post the images and

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01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: the videos of the dolphin set to the tune of

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01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 2: the song. The song was a twenty seventeen hit by

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01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 2: Clean Bandit featuring Zara Larson. It began a TikToker called

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01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 2: errortet herotet highertet erraortet.

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01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 22: Posters a bit that's not pronounced urotate could be.

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01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 2: Posted a video of a vibrant dolphin leaping out of

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01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 2: the water while the upbeat chorus Larsen Symphony plays in

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01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 2: the background. Instead of a motivational message, the overlay read

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01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 2: I'm depressed and that went off. That went, as Mark

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01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 2: Mitchell would say, that went viral, And so then after

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01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 2: the success of the video, Urotet posted some more content

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01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 2: captions like I have social anxiety, I love alcohol, and

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01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 2: I self sabotage everything, And as Mike says, that went

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Speaker 2: viral as well. So the memes spread and other techtok

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01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 2: users joined in.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I like the one who says life when that

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Speaker 22: one person shuts the hell.

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Speaker 2: Up exactly, I would you for one single beer. It's

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Speaker 2: my first favorite.

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Speaker 22: I quite the one where one news had just put

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Speaker 22: I'm a lesbian.

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Speaker 2: So the ministry or the cool cats at the Ministry,

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Speaker 2: they thought, we're on. Here, we're on. And then the

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Speaker 2: boomers from ZIDB came along and went, what helped me

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01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 2: with dolphins? We've done that, as we've done with dolphins.

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01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 2: Mark said it'll go viral and so the next thing

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01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 2: you know, you got it all explain to you. And

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01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 2: that's how the show works news for you. In a

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01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 2: couple of moments, News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The

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01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:52,719
Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts

1579
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 1: across residential, commercial and rural news Talks d B.

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Speaker 2: If youve us a bit on Gregor Connas a hurry

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01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 2: MP out of Wellington, he's busy trying to defend Wellington's vibrancy.

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01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 2: He regularly swims in the Harbor's and we got the

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01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 2: insight from Mark and Jinny that he's quite the athlete.

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01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 2: Obviously he'd did somebody said he'd run somewhere and somebody

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01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 2: said he played the rugby he's unbothered by pollution or

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01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 2: sewage warnings. So I'm wondering if he's leaping over the

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01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 2: boundaries of responsibility there. Because I think it's a local MP.

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01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 2: I think you've got to adhere to at least in

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Speaker 2: some way shape or form sewage warnings. If you're going

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01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 2: to be an MP and you see a sewage warning

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01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 2: sign and you go, oh, well, I'm Greg O'Connor, I

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01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 2: don't worry about those, then that's going to send a

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01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 2: message around the wider community. And when people get ill,

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01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: then there's someday, oh Greg, that's because Greg. We all

1595
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 2: swam in the harbor. Because Greg told us to rejected

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01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 2: the notion that Wellington was dying, he would happen to

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01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 2: be holiday there. I don't think that's true. I don't

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01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 2: think anybody holidays voluntarily in Wellington. It's nothing wrong with

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Speaker 2: living there. I lived there for ten years, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know anybody at a people who go to visit

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01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 2: family members. So you're going, we're off to see Aunt Daisy,

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01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 2: and you go where's aunt Daisy? Libs go, oh, she's

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01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 2: got a nice house in Thornton. So there, But you're

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01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 2: not going to Wellington. You're going to Aunt Daisy's place.

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01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 2: No one ever went to I'm going to Wellington because

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01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 2: of Scorching Bay, or because there's a cool ice cream

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Speaker 2: and Mirima or am I wrong? Twenty two to.

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Speaker 6: Nine International Correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, peace of

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01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 6: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: You're in the business out of Australia Wensday Morning Care

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Speaker 2: and Gilbert Morning to you morning mate. Now the Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister drafting the legislation, he thinks sixteen or thereabouts, and

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Speaker 2: you're going to ban every Australian kid from being on

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01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 2: social media. How many people could you line up right here,

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01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 2: right now that believe that that's actually going to be

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01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 2: a workable thing.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that said that one of the questions. But I

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01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:55,839
Speaker 14: think what we're seeing, Mike is a groundswell of support

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Speaker 14: from families and parents. Now that technically might be an ishoot,

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Speaker 14: but I think what the argument is from those like

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Speaker 14: Peter malanowskis the South Australian Premiere, is that this is

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Speaker 14: going to empower parents that once you get one, two

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Speaker 14: three a group saying okay, your kids, I'm sorry, you

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01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 14: can't have social media to this age and then gradually

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01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 14: it shifts the community discourse as well. So you've got

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Speaker 14: the technical question. Yes, some kids will get around it

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Speaker 14: like they do with smoking or drinking alcohol, but it

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Speaker 14: doesn't mean you shouldn't have the benchmark or the rule.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So what's the timeline on this whens that get

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Speaker 2: up and passed.

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Speaker 14: Well, they're going to legislate by the end of this year,

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Speaker 14: and there's bipartisan support to do it. It looks like

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Speaker 14: it probably will come in at the age of sixteen.

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Speaker 14: And quite frankly, there are various other questions that need

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Speaker 14: to be answered. As you said, what's the age verification,

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Speaker 14: how are they going to do it, facial technology or what.

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Speaker 14: But either way, this is going to happen, and it's

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Speaker 14: going to happen. Legislation to be introduced to Prime Minister,

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Speaker 14: promised by the end of the year, and with both

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01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 14: sides of the major parties agreeing anyway, it's hard to

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01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,879
Speaker 14: see why it won't be delivered.

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Speaker 2: And do we have the detail on the legislation. In

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01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 2: other words, if they settle on sixteen, if you're fifteen

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01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 2: years old, you will not be legally allowed to be

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01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,839
Speaker 2: on TikTok or Facebook or Snapchat or anywhere.

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Speaker 14: We haven't seen the legislation yet. They're still doing They've

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01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 14: actually just kicked off the process for an age verification trial,

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01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 14: so over the next month or so, it is all

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Speaker 14: being done very quickly. There are legal questions as well.

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Speaker 14: There are a number of states in the US that

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01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,719
Speaker 14: have tried it. They're in the courts, big Tech taking

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Speaker 14: them on. But with an election coming up, Mike, I

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01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 14: don't think this is a problem politically. I think the

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Speaker 14: government's more than happy to have a fight with big tech.

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Speaker 2: And having said that, does that in any way, shape

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01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 2: or form, or will it dubtail in with the ongoing

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01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,799
Speaker 2: conversations you're having with big tech over them taking content

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01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 2: and then putting it online and they might like to

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01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 2: pay a little bit of money for that, or are

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Speaker 2: these completely separate subjects, in other words, the relationship between

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Speaker 2: big tech and the government.

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Speaker 14: They're meant to be They're meant to be separate. But

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Speaker 14: I'm sure they will dovetail, and who knows, maybe there's

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Speaker 14: something where they can compromise on one and get something

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Speaker 14: get them to bend on the other. But I haven't

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Speaker 14: heard any suggestion that Big Tech's willing to go back

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Speaker 14: and start paying for the news that they use. And

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Speaker 14: to be honest, I think there is a view that

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Speaker 14: they take. They take the Mickey Mike. They're basically it's

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Speaker 14: not like the wild West that they're not treated like publishers.

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Speaker 14: They don't have the same rules in terms of defamation.

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01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 14: They make money on advertising that they don't even see.

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01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 14: They just throw it up, throw it up online. So

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Speaker 14: I think there's a view in the community as well

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01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 14: that enough's enough and it's time to start raining them in.

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Speaker 2: All right, there we got agecre reform. How long has

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Speaker 2: this been in the offing?

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01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 14: Oh for years? In fact, we had a Royal Commission

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01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 14: over two years ago now which said they needed to

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01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 14: be urgent action, urgent action. Two and a bit years later,

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01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 14: we've seen no deal done and I'm not convinced there

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01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 14: will be a compromise. Basically, our age care sector with

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01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 14: a growing aging population, the demographic is shifting. There needs

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Speaker 14: to be reform. But as I said, we've got an

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Speaker 14: election coming up. The government's got a five hundred page bill.

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Speaker 14: I'm just not sure the coalition the opposition will give

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Speaker 14: them a win here. As much as we desperately need it, and.

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Speaker 2: Then we got the details and interesting eclectic old. I mean,

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01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:47,679
Speaker 2: at least you get them. The King and the Queen,

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01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 2: we don't get them. They dropped down part of the

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Speaker 2: league off before they head off to Samoa. I'm the

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01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 2: going the usual things, but the barbecue is interesting, I thought.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's right, the barbecue meeting community leaders, those that

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01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 14: volunteer and pioneers in cancer research and so on. So yeah,

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01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 14: it looks like they're going to pack it in in

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01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,600
Speaker 14: two days. Disappointing they're not visiting your beautiful part of

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01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 14: the world. It's one of my favorite places to come

1698
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 14: and holiday where I'll be in December again this year.

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01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 14: But anyway, I think the King's missing a trick there.

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01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 14: But here for two days Canberra and Sydney's is on

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01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 14: their schedule exactly.

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01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, you're normally on in the afternoon on Sky

1703
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 2: when this debate's on. Is it going to do? You're

1704
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 2: carrying it live today? What would your assessment be of

1705
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 2: the interest by the average Australian in the one debate

1706
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 2: and to the race in America?

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01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:42,719
Speaker 14: It's huge and definitely in Parliament. Parliament sitting this week,

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01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 14: we're running it in full. We've got analysis off the

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01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 14: back of it as well, and I just think it's

1710
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 14: got everyone I'm talking to in the Australian Parliament is

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01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:55,640
Speaker 14: super engaged because it affects us all whoever wins in

1712
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 14: that first week of November in the presidential race, that

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01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 14: this is going to have huge applications for our region

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01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 14: as well.

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Speaker 23: Mate.

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Speaker 2: Exactly good to see, mate, we'll catch up Friday. Apreciate

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Speaker 2: it very much. Kieran Gilbert, who is the chief news

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Speaker 2: anchor at Sky News, in the details of King and

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01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 2: the Queen six days in Australia sixteenth to Australia for

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Speaker 2: Charles trip. That is three days of events in Sydney

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Speaker 2: and Canberra. They'll arrive Friday, October eighteenth, fly at the

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Speaker 2: following Wednesday where they head to the Choggham meeting in

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01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 2: Samoa first by reigning Monarch. Who's visit by reigning Monarch

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Speaker 2: since Elizabeth was there in Brisbane and Melbourne back in

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Speaker 2: twenty eleven. Barbecue with every day Australians. I mean, what

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01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 2: on earth does that mean? And really do you think

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01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 2: you would round up your average every day Australian and

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01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 2: put them in front of a barbecue and the King

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Speaker 2: I think not the layer wreath at the Australian War Memorial,

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01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 2: visit the Australian Botanic Gardens. They'll visit the CSIRO where

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01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 2: the scientists are working on dealing with the impact of

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01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 2: bushfires in Australia. They'll conduct a fleet review of the

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01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 2: Royal Australian Navy. So that's the itinerary that's been released

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Speaker 2: This morning A forty.

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Speaker 1: Five The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: A'd be by from nine just before we leave Australia.

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01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 2: There's a poll out. The other angsty thing that got

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01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 2: going apart from social media at the moment is advertising

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01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 2: gambling or gambling advertising fifty one percent or in favor

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01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 2: of a total band. So the decision they can't quite

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01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,640
Speaker 2: get across yet. Do they ban it completely or the

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01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 2: government favors or seems to favor a partial ban. Fifty

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01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 2: one percent of the poll say there's total ban. Cabinets

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01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 2: currently delayed that decision because it's a lot of sporting codes,

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01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 2: very upset media companies, very upset gaming sites, very upset.

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01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 2: So the partial ban is what they think they want.

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Speaker 2: Thirty two percent in favor of limiting the ads to

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01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 2: to every hour. Fifty percent of Labor voters want a

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Speaker 2: total ban, forty six percent of Coalition want a total ban.

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01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 2: Marginal electorates fifty four percent of voters favor the tougher option.

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01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 2: So that's something to think about, Mike. I'm going to

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01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 2: Wellington for WOW and the AB's on the weekend. That's

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Speaker 2: for a v Yes. See, we get a lot of that.

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01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 2: I mean lots. It doesn't matter where you go if

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Speaker 2: you go for an event, it doesn't matter where it is.

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01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 2: You're going for the event, not the place, aren't you. Mike.

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Speaker 2: Our second son, fifteen, managed to keep them off all

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Speaker 2: social media after seeing the impact it had on our eldest,

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Speaker 2: who also was warned against it, and he managed to

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01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 2: avoid all the sexting, drama, bullying, etc. That's plagued others

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01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 2: this year at his group in school. Luckily, his prem

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01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 2: sports team coach also encourages families to do this for

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01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 2: the player's health and performance. You'd be one of the

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01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 2: few if you've been successfully managing to keep a teenager

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01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 2: off social media, I'm afraid to tell you, which is

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01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: ironic because Snapchat via their publicity department, have just released

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01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 2: the information that there are over one point five million

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Speaker 2: of us every month active on Snapchat, so ninety five

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01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 2: percent of key Wes thirteen to twenty four. So at

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01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 2: the bottom end of that the very people Albanez is

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Speaker 2: allegedly going to stop from getting onto Snapchat at all,

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01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 2: but ninety five percent of people in that age group

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01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 2: are active on Snapchat, seventy five percent of people thirteen

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01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 2: to thirty four. Over fifty percent of monthly active users

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01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 2: in this country are twenty five or older. They're opening

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01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 2: the people are on Snapchat. They're opening on average Snapchat

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01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:15,879
Speaker 2: thirty five times a day. I mean, come on, honestly,

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Speaker 2: have you got nothing better to do thirty five times

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Speaker 2: a day?

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Speaker 22: Don't they know they should be on a stationary bike

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01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 22: watching Sky News Australia.

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01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 2: PRIs you say that like that's insulting Glen. More than

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01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 2: fifty five percent of Kiwi Snapchat is also interact with

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01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 2: Snapchat's augmented reality lenses. Is that a thing? I don't

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01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 2: even know what that is, but you're interacting with them

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Speaker 2: thirty five times a day now, nib in ib Let

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Speaker 2: me come back to this in a moment night Away

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Speaker 2: from nine.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real estate news dog zib.

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Speaker 2: Get Away from nine year back to nerbn ib. So

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Speaker 2: we've got something with them, some insurance with them. We

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01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 2: wanted to contact them. Not possible, no pussibla. So Cadie's

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01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 2: on the phone the other day for an hour, like

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01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 2: an hour, just on the speaker, and we're appreciate your call.

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01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 2: We're busy at the most cetera, et cetera. So I

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01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 2: say hang up. So she doesn't know that she's done

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01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 2: it three or four times now, literally, no one for

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01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 2: a inaccessible week now, literally no one has answered the phone,

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Speaker 2: not one person in over a week. And so we

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01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:27,799
Speaker 2: emailed them and say, can please somebody respond to our email?

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01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 2: Please respond to our email? Hello? Is there anyone there?

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01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 2: Can someone please respond to our email? So literally, no

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01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 2: as come back to us. No one's come back to us,

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01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 2: and no one's answer. O. Fine. My point just generally,

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Speaker 2: how long do you wish to engage with the company

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Speaker 2: that you want to give them money? I guarantee if

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01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 2: we didn't give them any money, they'd be really quick

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01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:45,839
Speaker 2: to contact you. How long do you want to engage

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01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 2: with the company before you go, you know what, bugger off.

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01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 2: And even in telling them to bugger off, how do

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01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 2: you know you ever got through? Like do we email

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01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 2: them to bugger off?

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Speaker 5: Do?

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01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 2: There's no message to leave, There's no human interaction. It's

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01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 2: the weirdest thing in the whole wide world. So I

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01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 2: banged on the other day about Star Insurance because Star

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Speaker 2: Insurance is another company would do with a fantastic ring

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01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 2: ring Hello, real people, down to the phone. They solve

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01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 2: your problem just like that, just like the olden days,

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01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 2: whereas they're completely and utterly useless.

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01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 22: They're essentially ghosting you.

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01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 2: That's exactly what they're doing. And I don't mind being ghosted.

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01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 2: I don't care. I'll cancel my policy and that will

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01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 2: be that. But it's just the weirdest thing. Five minutes

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Speaker 2: away from night.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with the muse the home of big brand cosmetics.

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Speaker 2: The NFL's underway. We love the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 2: Cleveland's one of those one of the few cities these days.

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01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 2: Actually that's got a dedicated mainstream radio show for sports

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01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 2: talk card, the Ken Carmen Show. It's on the Fan,

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01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 2: that's what the station's called The Fan Ken's. He was

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01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 2: a frequent hater of a guy called Baker Mayfield, who

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01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 2: was a quarterback, and they traded Baker Mayfield. They got

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01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 2: rid of them. They sent him to the Buccaneers. But

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01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 2: in round one, opening of the season, Baker had a

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01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 2: blinder for the Buccaneers. But Deshaun Watson, who they paid

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01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 2: about eight squillion dollars for and then he sort of

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01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 2: couldn't get to the field last season. Now he started

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01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 2: on the field for the first time in ages, he

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01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 2: turns out to be useless. So this is the very

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Speaker 2: first call they got to be in the season.

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Speaker 18: Two numbers, you'll figure him out.

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01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 15: Uh, forty two point nine, one forty four.

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Speaker 23: What is all this?

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01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:15,560
Speaker 13: Watson's quarterback rating, Mayfield's quarterback.

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Speaker 20: R christ I can't do this for one more second.

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01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 20: The first call of the box, we're gonna do this,

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01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 20: the very first call of the box.

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01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:29,759
Speaker 2: We're gonna do this. No, I know what his quarterback

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Speaker 2: rating was.

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01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 14: I know that he was good.

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Speaker 20: Guys, I'm not doing it right out of the damn box.

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01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:35,560
Speaker 20: Can I have a little bit of time before we

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01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 20: do this? Can I have a little bit of time

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01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 20: that he ain't coming home, He ain't coming back only

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01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 20: the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 20: He had a great day down there. Congratulations on all

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Speaker 20: his success.

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Speaker 4: I can't undo the trade.

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Speaker 2: I can undo it, says so Radia hit in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Some good good sha I.

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Speaker 22: Think Abos is accusing us of getting loose today.

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Speaker 2: Shaustly. The guy yesterday was so excited. Well, I was

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Speaker 2: so excited. This was New York and San Francisco. This

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01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 2: was Monday Night football. And Tom Brady, by the way,

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01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 2: made his debut. The other days there is the color

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01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 2: guy on Fox. He's all right without being brilliant. He's okay.

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01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 2: He was a better footballer than he is a commentator.

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01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 2: But anyway, Aaron Rodgers fronted up for the first time

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01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:20,760
Speaker 2: since he went to the New York Jets because he

1874
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 2: got injured famously last year and his team turned out

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01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 2: to be crap, which is a great shame because I

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01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 2: wanted better for them. Anyway, back Tomorrow Morning with Graham

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Speaker 2: Norton among others on the Mike Asking Breakfast, Happy Days.

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Speaker 1: For more from the Mi Casking Breakfast, listen live to

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Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow

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