1 00:00:06,707 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,747 --> 00:00:15,667 Speaker 1: from Newstalks EDB. You be the TMO. Have your say 3 00:00:15,707 --> 00:00:18,747 Speaker 1: on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with 4 00:00:18,907 --> 00:00:22,987 Speaker 1: Jason Pin and GJ. Garnnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home 5 00:00:23,027 --> 00:00:24,427 Speaker 1: builder News Talks MB. 6 00:00:25,147 --> 00:00:29,147 Speaker 2: Just coming up twenty six away from three. Australian correspondent 7 00:00:29,187 --> 00:00:31,947 Speaker 2: to Adam Peacock is with us a day later than usual, 8 00:00:31,987 --> 00:00:34,507 Speaker 2: but with heaps to cover off on that side of 9 00:00:34,547 --> 00:00:37,107 Speaker 2: the Tessman. I didn't want to miss the chance we 10 00:00:37,147 --> 00:00:39,227 Speaker 2: bumped you yesterday, Adam, because we had an hour with 11 00:00:39,267 --> 00:00:42,027 Speaker 2: the All Blacks coach, so we didn't really want to 12 00:00:42,027 --> 00:00:43,827 Speaker 2: break that up. Do you think it was the right 13 00:00:43,867 --> 00:00:45,907 Speaker 2: move to bump you for razor? 14 00:00:47,707 --> 00:00:55,307 Speaker 3: Just another blatant disregard Australianism from teaways and everything like that, now, 15 00:00:55,627 --> 00:00:59,027 Speaker 3: completely understand man, Hope it all went well with it. 16 00:00:59,027 --> 00:01:00,947 Speaker 2: It didn't make sure. I think you're half right actually, 17 00:01:01,027 --> 00:01:04,787 Speaker 2: but let's move on anyway. To Joe Schmidt, Scott Robertson's 18 00:01:04,827 --> 00:01:08,987 Speaker 2: counterpart and soon to be opponent in the coaching box, 19 00:01:08,987 --> 00:01:11,547 Speaker 2: getting ready for his first test as Wallaby's coach. Australia 20 00:01:11,587 --> 00:01:14,547 Speaker 2: played Wales and Sydney next Saturday, Melbourne the following Saturday, 21 00:01:14,947 --> 00:01:18,587 Speaker 2: then Rugby Championship. Of course, how are optimism levels among 22 00:01:18,867 --> 00:01:20,387 Speaker 2: Australian rugby fans. 23 00:01:20,787 --> 00:01:23,307 Speaker 3: Yeah, not great, given what happened in the World Cup 24 00:01:23,427 --> 00:01:27,467 Speaker 3: last year, and given I mean this, Joe Swili is 25 00:01:27,507 --> 00:01:30,587 Speaker 3: coming over from rugby league next year, but conversely with 26 00:01:30,667 --> 00:01:33,547 Speaker 3: from Marky Park and Carter Gordon to rugby league the 27 00:01:33,667 --> 00:01:37,867 Speaker 3: Wallabies I'm talking about. So yeah, it's a difficult time 28 00:01:37,907 --> 00:01:40,787 Speaker 3: for Joe Schmidt because he's got a few things to 29 00:01:40,827 --> 00:01:43,787 Speaker 3: weigh up about. How much does he rely on the 30 00:01:43,787 --> 00:01:46,147 Speaker 3: overs of players, how much does he rely on players 31 00:01:46,147 --> 00:01:49,707 Speaker 3: that aren't going to be here next year? Like where's 32 00:01:49,747 --> 00:01:51,347 Speaker 3: the priority to get it right now, to get it 33 00:01:51,387 --> 00:01:53,067 Speaker 3: right in twenty twenty five, to get it right to 34 00:01:53,107 --> 00:01:55,987 Speaker 3: the next World Cup. So I think he's made a 35 00:01:56,027 --> 00:01:58,227 Speaker 3: fair call with the guys that are going to league 36 00:01:58,267 --> 00:02:01,907 Speaker 3: just leave him out. But even though he said Carter 37 00:02:02,027 --> 00:02:04,387 Speaker 3: Gordon might not have been in the squad full stop 38 00:02:04,427 --> 00:02:06,827 Speaker 3: because the other fly Hearts are going, okay and opinion, 39 00:02:06,947 --> 00:02:10,747 Speaker 3: but yeah, it's a really tough one. The balance he's chosen. 40 00:02:10,827 --> 00:02:14,347 Speaker 3: He's gone wide he's gone thirty eight, so yeah, he's 41 00:02:14,547 --> 00:02:16,827 Speaker 3: picked apart what's happened in Super Rugby so far, and 42 00:02:16,867 --> 00:02:18,587 Speaker 3: he's going to go with this and it's a good 43 00:02:18,587 --> 00:02:22,347 Speaker 3: way to Wales will be an opponent, Georgia the opponent 44 00:02:22,387 --> 00:02:26,827 Speaker 3: as well, especially in the forward battle. But yeah, it's 45 00:02:27,307 --> 00:02:29,947 Speaker 3: expectations aren't exactly an all time high. Let me say 46 00:02:29,987 --> 00:02:30,987 Speaker 3: that Ponty all right. 47 00:02:30,907 --> 00:02:32,387 Speaker 2: Was Is there any school of thought around that he 48 00:02:32,427 --> 00:02:34,267 Speaker 2: can't possibly be worse than the last bloke. 49 00:02:36,187 --> 00:02:40,267 Speaker 3: I think everyone in the rugby is thankful that the 50 00:02:40,387 --> 00:02:43,947 Speaker 3: circus that came with Eddie in the last twelve months 51 00:02:44,307 --> 00:02:47,547 Speaker 3: is not apparent. It's just not there. So this guy 52 00:02:47,707 --> 00:02:50,587 Speaker 3: is just a rugby coach and sure he's going to 53 00:02:50,627 --> 00:02:52,427 Speaker 3: be good with the press, is going to be forthright 54 00:02:52,467 --> 00:02:55,827 Speaker 3: with his opinions, but all the other stuff that's going on, 55 00:02:56,027 --> 00:02:59,507 Speaker 3: like for him standing in a kubra at the departures 56 00:02:59,547 --> 00:03:02,387 Speaker 3: gate saying that it's the worst press conference he's ever had. 57 00:03:02,467 --> 00:03:04,947 Speaker 3: I can't imagine a world we live in which Joe 58 00:03:04,987 --> 00:03:09,987 Speaker 3: Smith does that. So yeah, I think everyone's now trying 59 00:03:09,987 --> 00:03:12,387 Speaker 3: to move on quickly because straying to rugby needs a 60 00:03:12,387 --> 00:03:13,827 Speaker 3: bit of help At the moment, they need, the want 61 00:03:13,987 --> 00:03:15,627 Speaker 3: is to be successful as part of it. 62 00:03:15,787 --> 00:03:17,867 Speaker 2: All right, look forward to seeing how they go in 63 00:03:17,907 --> 00:03:21,627 Speaker 2: their first couple of assignments. State of Origin two almost 64 00:03:21,627 --> 00:03:24,347 Speaker 2: a complete reversal of Game one. You southwal was bouncing 65 00:03:24,387 --> 00:03:27,067 Speaker 2: back from a thirty eighteen loss in Game one to 66 00:03:27,187 --> 00:03:30,067 Speaker 2: win thirty eight to eighteen in game two. Obviously a 67 00:03:30,067 --> 00:03:32,387 Speaker 2: lot easier to play rugby league with thirteen not twelve. 68 00:03:32,987 --> 00:03:38,787 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, made that point. Yeah, it was a fantastic performance. 69 00:03:38,947 --> 00:03:40,747 Speaker 3: A lot of people are saying it's the greatest ever 70 00:03:40,867 --> 00:03:44,347 Speaker 3: half of Origin football that one team has produced, and 71 00:03:44,387 --> 00:03:46,507 Speaker 3: it's hard to think of a better one in terms 72 00:03:46,507 --> 00:03:50,827 Speaker 3: of just outrageously good play wherever you look at it 73 00:03:50,867 --> 00:03:54,027 Speaker 3: without the ball, the things they were doing to set 74 00:03:54,107 --> 00:03:56,947 Speaker 3: up opportunities, the things they were doing to nullifly opportunities 75 00:03:56,947 --> 00:04:00,067 Speaker 3: for Queensland. It was just brutal and they just tanked 76 00:04:00,147 --> 00:04:04,067 Speaker 3: up the middle of the of the field. They outdid 77 00:04:04,067 --> 00:04:06,267 Speaker 3: them for run meets in that first half, played double 78 00:04:06,547 --> 00:04:08,907 Speaker 3: and yeah, they got on a roll and Queensland just 79 00:04:08,947 --> 00:04:12,107 Speaker 3: couldn't compete. So yeah, it's a hard one a way 80 00:04:12,187 --> 00:04:14,547 Speaker 3: up there for the second the third game, because a 81 00:04:14,547 --> 00:04:16,747 Speaker 3: lot of people are saying, oh, well that the Queensland 82 00:04:16,747 --> 00:04:18,427 Speaker 3: did well in the second half and that carries on 83 00:04:18,467 --> 00:04:21,347 Speaker 3: to the third game. Queensland have some colt stadia and 84 00:04:21,387 --> 00:04:23,387 Speaker 3: to look forward to New South Wales and now I 85 00:04:23,507 --> 00:04:25,227 Speaker 3: just got to back that up. Can they back that 86 00:04:25,347 --> 00:04:28,067 Speaker 3: up all? But with questions it set it up beautifully 87 00:04:28,107 --> 00:04:29,547 Speaker 3: for the third game in a couple of weeks time. 88 00:04:29,667 --> 00:04:32,427 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw a stand and you've probably seen similar 89 00:04:33,067 --> 00:04:37,187 Speaker 2: stats that New South Wales haven't won an Origin decider 90 00:04:37,387 --> 00:04:40,267 Speaker 2: in Brisbane since two thousand and five. But I mean 91 00:04:40,467 --> 00:04:42,467 Speaker 2: these things only mean so much, don't they. I mean 92 00:04:42,467 --> 00:04:44,027 Speaker 2: New South Wales may well go there and win. 93 00:04:44,827 --> 00:04:47,387 Speaker 3: Well. Michael Maguire, the coach, was asked about that right 94 00:04:47,427 --> 00:04:50,067 Speaker 3: after the game. He said, well, the proves it's been done, 95 00:04:50,427 --> 00:04:54,387 Speaker 3: so yeah, I get that. I mean we can send them, 96 00:04:54,747 --> 00:04:56,627 Speaker 3: we can send people to the moon. Just because it 97 00:04:56,667 --> 00:04:58,627 Speaker 3: hasn't been known why, it doesn't mean we can't do it. 98 00:04:58,747 --> 00:05:02,187 Speaker 3: So yeah, I guess you're taking that route. But yeah, 99 00:05:02,187 --> 00:05:05,067 Speaker 3: it's not like all of history hecks that is on 100 00:05:05,147 --> 00:05:06,827 Speaker 3: New Southwest, but it's a plenty of long time and 101 00:05:06,867 --> 00:05:09,427 Speaker 3: there's a reason for it, and that's because Queen Bland 102 00:05:09,547 --> 00:05:11,307 Speaker 3: lift like you would not believe at that ground. 103 00:05:11,467 --> 00:05:13,507 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I can't wait for a decide. Everyone loves 104 00:05:13,507 --> 00:05:16,147 Speaker 2: a decider, Everyone loves a Game three decider. We look 105 00:05:16,507 --> 00:05:18,627 Speaker 2: forward to that T twenty Cricket World Cup and you're 106 00:05:18,627 --> 00:05:21,587 Speaker 2: a champions beating South Africa this morning. Australia didn't make 107 00:05:21,627 --> 00:05:23,347 Speaker 2: it out of the Super eights into the Simneys. I 108 00:05:23,427 --> 00:05:25,587 Speaker 2: guess that has to be considered a bit of a 109 00:05:25,627 --> 00:05:27,947 Speaker 2: mediocre tournament, does it? Not making the final four? 110 00:05:28,507 --> 00:05:31,467 Speaker 3: Oh, it's a failure. Yeah. For Australia, not making a 111 00:05:31,507 --> 00:05:34,387 Speaker 3: semi final of any cricket competition, men's or women's is 112 00:05:34,467 --> 00:05:37,507 Speaker 3: a failure and that's what that is. And to me, 113 00:05:37,587 --> 00:05:39,427 Speaker 3: it all came down to one selection. They left out 114 00:05:39,427 --> 00:05:41,987 Speaker 3: Mitch dark to the game against Afghanistan, preferring to go 115 00:05:42,027 --> 00:05:44,147 Speaker 3: with two spinners, which you know, it's fine if they 116 00:05:44,187 --> 00:05:46,627 Speaker 3: want to, but don't leave out Mitch Darker takes wickets 117 00:05:46,627 --> 00:05:49,187 Speaker 3: in the power play up the front and Afghanistan put 118 00:05:49,227 --> 00:05:51,067 Speaker 3: on a century partnership at the top of the order 119 00:05:51,107 --> 00:05:53,307 Speaker 3: with their two best batters that they don't have the 120 00:05:53,387 --> 00:05:56,107 Speaker 3: greatest depth to their batting, they've got a really good 121 00:05:56,107 --> 00:05:58,067 Speaker 3: bowling unit and they're very good in the field now 122 00:05:58,187 --> 00:06:02,827 Speaker 3: but batting is not their strength and for some unknown 123 00:06:02,907 --> 00:06:05,347 Speaker 3: reason the Australia selectors left out Mitch Starker has taken 124 00:06:05,427 --> 00:06:07,467 Speaker 3: more white ball wickets than any other bowler in the 125 00:06:07,507 --> 00:06:11,027 Speaker 3: history of Australian cricket. Anyway, digress Australia wasn't good enough 126 00:06:11,027 --> 00:06:14,187 Speaker 3: to get through, that's fair enough. Afghanistan played there final. 127 00:06:14,227 --> 00:06:17,387 Speaker 3: In that game got built by South Africa and South Africa. 128 00:06:17,427 --> 00:06:20,747 Speaker 3: They did thirty or thirty to win the final. Overnight 129 00:06:20,867 --> 00:06:24,827 Speaker 3: never won an ICC final I think since Champions Trophy 130 00:06:24,907 --> 00:06:28,187 Speaker 3: ninety ninety eight. But they've failed in World Cup finals, 131 00:06:28,387 --> 00:06:30,427 Speaker 3: semi finals all the time. So they finally got through 132 00:06:30,427 --> 00:06:33,227 Speaker 3: the final. But then India found a way with Jasper Boomer, 133 00:06:34,027 --> 00:06:35,947 Speaker 3: player of the tournament. If he wasn't played at the tournament, 134 00:06:35,987 --> 00:06:38,947 Speaker 3: don't know who officially was he doesn't he wasn't plarted 135 00:06:38,987 --> 00:06:41,827 Speaker 3: of the tournament. Well, the people who were watching and 136 00:06:42,227 --> 00:06:45,067 Speaker 3: giving a reward were. We got caught up in the 137 00:06:45,107 --> 00:06:48,587 Speaker 3: old caravan rum. I think because he was spectacular. He 138 00:06:48,667 --> 00:06:52,267 Speaker 3: was so good Boomer and basically carried India to a 139 00:06:52,307 --> 00:06:52,907 Speaker 3: big victory. 140 00:06:52,987 --> 00:06:55,147 Speaker 2: South Africa should have won that game. Though they should 141 00:06:55,147 --> 00:06:57,107 Speaker 2: have won the game they had it they had it. 142 00:06:57,987 --> 00:07:03,587 Speaker 3: Yeah, but South Africa in big cricket games and India like, okay, 143 00:07:03,667 --> 00:07:07,067 Speaker 3: we can bag out South Africa for bottling it, but 144 00:07:07,187 --> 00:07:10,827 Speaker 3: I mean Jasper Boomra when he's got the ball in 145 00:07:10,827 --> 00:07:13,387 Speaker 3: this tournament, he's proven that he's the man and he 146 00:07:14,667 --> 00:07:16,587 Speaker 3: makes it very very hard. And they got someone spt 147 00:07:16,587 --> 00:07:19,187 Speaker 3: of their bowling India And look overall, I think the 148 00:07:19,227 --> 00:07:22,507 Speaker 3: ISS got what they wanted because they've fixed the draw 149 00:07:22,827 --> 00:07:25,827 Speaker 3: to make sure they knew when India were playing, and 150 00:07:25,867 --> 00:07:27,867 Speaker 3: they fixed the drawer to make sure that the biggest 151 00:07:27,987 --> 00:07:32,027 Speaker 3: TV audience in India could be aggregated, and they got 152 00:07:32,027 --> 00:07:32,587 Speaker 3: what they wanted. 153 00:07:32,667 --> 00:07:35,187 Speaker 2: So there indeed, all right, just to finish one of 154 00:07:35,267 --> 00:07:37,867 Speaker 2: just check in on the soccer Ruse. They have had 155 00:07:37,907 --> 00:07:42,747 Speaker 2: the qualifying path to the next FIFA World Cup solidified. 156 00:07:42,787 --> 00:07:46,427 Speaker 2: They're in a sixteen group with Japan, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, 157 00:07:46,587 --> 00:07:50,027 Speaker 2: China and Indonesia. There are three groups of sex. What 158 00:07:50,067 --> 00:07:51,987 Speaker 2: do they have to do to qualify because there's about 159 00:07:51,987 --> 00:07:55,147 Speaker 2: a million teams of the World Cup now, so they're. 160 00:07:54,947 --> 00:07:58,187 Speaker 3: Broken it really down. I think it's top two goes 161 00:07:58,387 --> 00:08:02,387 Speaker 3: great through, so that's fixed, and then the other three 162 00:08:02,907 --> 00:08:07,347 Speaker 3: I think whittle themselves down through other spots or no, 163 00:08:08,627 --> 00:08:11,027 Speaker 3: the next two in the group go through. I don't know, 164 00:08:11,307 --> 00:08:13,787 Speaker 3: top two that's what you need to do. Stralia, they're 165 00:08:13,867 --> 00:08:16,587 Speaker 3: not worry about all that other garbage in a couple 166 00:08:16,627 --> 00:08:18,587 Speaker 3: of years time. But it's not going to be easy. 167 00:08:18,707 --> 00:08:24,347 Speaker 3: It's Saudi Arabia away, Japan wherever you play them difficult, 168 00:08:24,787 --> 00:08:27,627 Speaker 3: and some tricky opponents away from home like Indonesia and 169 00:08:27,747 --> 00:08:31,187 Speaker 3: China as well. So yeah, it's not the it's not 170 00:08:31,267 --> 00:08:33,547 Speaker 3: skate through. But that's Asian all at the moment, it's 171 00:08:33,547 --> 00:08:35,747 Speaker 3: improving all the time. A lot of the Southeast Asian 172 00:08:35,907 --> 00:08:39,667 Speaker 3: nations are putting money into developing players, like Indonesia. As 173 00:08:39,707 --> 00:08:41,667 Speaker 3: we saw at the last Asian Cup they were pretty good. 174 00:08:41,707 --> 00:08:44,227 Speaker 3: So yeah, it won't be a case of just rocking 175 00:08:44,307 --> 00:08:46,867 Speaker 3: up to this. I'll have to have their best players 176 00:08:46,907 --> 00:08:49,267 Speaker 3: available all the time and in order to be able 177 00:08:49,307 --> 00:08:50,427 Speaker 3: to qualify automatically. 178 00:08:50,507 --> 00:08:52,347 Speaker 2: So it's home and away against other five teams. So 179 00:08:52,347 --> 00:08:54,387 Speaker 2: it's a team team, a team game group basically, and 180 00:08:54,467 --> 00:08:58,707 Speaker 2: top two go automatically through. So on rankings, Japan and Australia. 181 00:08:58,787 --> 00:09:02,707 Speaker 3: Long ail road, Yeah, Japan and Australia. But Saudi Arabia 182 00:09:02,827 --> 00:09:05,427 Speaker 3: have fallen off a cliff, but they can turn things 183 00:09:05,427 --> 00:09:08,307 Speaker 3: around with the right coach. I think roverto Manchini was 184 00:09:08,347 --> 00:09:09,907 Speaker 3: the coach last time I checked. I don't know if 185 00:09:09,907 --> 00:09:11,467 Speaker 3: you're still a case because they change them all the 186 00:09:11,507 --> 00:09:14,547 Speaker 3: time over there. But yeah, it won't be an easy 187 00:09:14,707 --> 00:09:17,267 Speaker 3: proposition because Saudi football has got so much money going 188 00:09:17,307 --> 00:09:18,787 Speaker 3: into it at the moment, so you can't help but 189 00:09:18,827 --> 00:09:21,387 Speaker 3: think that that's going to improve their national team eventually. 190 00:09:21,467 --> 00:09:24,347 Speaker 3: So wait and see what happens, but it'll be I've 191 00:09:24,387 --> 00:09:25,787 Speaker 3: just got a feeling it will come down the last 192 00:09:25,827 --> 00:09:28,107 Speaker 3: game as usual for the soccerus and see what happens. 193 00:09:28,147 --> 00:09:30,307 Speaker 2: All right, Well, we'll like keeping on that as we 194 00:09:30,347 --> 00:09:33,307 Speaker 2: will all Australian sporting matters with you. Back to your 195 00:09:33,307 --> 00:09:35,827 Speaker 2: regular slot on Saturday next weekend, mate, we'll catch up then. 196 00:09:36,427 --> 00:09:38,027 Speaker 3: Sounds good. Pinty cheers mate, Thank. 197 00:09:37,907 --> 00:09:41,147 Speaker 2: You, Adam. Adam Piccotck our Australian correspondent normally Saturday's one 198 00:09:41,187 --> 00:09:44,707 Speaker 2: forty five, but later and on a different day this week. 199 00:09:44,747 --> 00:09:46,947 Speaker 2: But back to his regular slot next Saturday. 200 00:09:47,507 --> 00:09:50,707 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 201 00:09:50,827 --> 00:09:54,227 Speaker 1: to News Talk z'b weekends from midday, or follow the 202 00:09:54,227 --> 00:09:55,747 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio