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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from News Talk ZEDB, New.

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Speaker 2: Zealand and The Home Straight.

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Speaker 1: Zealand Kiwis Weekend Sports Road to Paris twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Here we're now just over a month away from the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four Olympics. We continue our Road to Paris

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Speaker 3: feature catching up with some of our great Olympians. Our

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Speaker 3: guest this afternoon, one of the finest track athletes New

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Speaker 3: Zealand has ever produced. Nick Willis, competed in the fifteen

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Speaker 3: hundred meters at five Olympic Games, winning silver at Beijing

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Speaker 3: in two thousand and eight and bronze at Rio in

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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 4: Centravitz, it's the Olympic champion, mcclufe at silver and bronze.

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Speaker 4: Can you believe it to Nick Willis off New Zealand. Well,

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Speaker 4: there would have been a lot of people watching in

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Speaker 4: New Zealand.

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Speaker 5: What a fine career it's been for Nick Willis. His

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Speaker 5: third consecutive final. It wasn't quite a replica of the

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Speaker 5: legendary exploits of Lovelock Snell and John Walker forty years ago,

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Speaker 5: but a silver in Beijing, A little fistpuff there. He

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Speaker 5: is a masterful tactician and while all around him were

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Speaker 5: beginning to crumble, Willis kept his composure and he has

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Speaker 5: a second Olympic medal.

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Speaker 2: Nick Willis takes the bronze.

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Speaker 3: He also won fifteen hundred meters medals and all three

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Speaker 3: of his Commonwealth Games gold at Melbourne two thousand and six,

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Speaker 3: bronze at Deli twenty ten, bronze again in Glasgow in

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Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, and as the New Zealand record holder over

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Speaker 3: the distance three twenty nine sixty six, which he ran

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Speaker 3: in Monaco in twenty fifteen. Nick Willis is with us

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Speaker 3: on Weekend Sport. Nick, when you think back about your

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Speaker 3: many Olympic Games experiences, what stands out most vividly for you?

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Speaker 6: The first thing, Just talking about Olympic Games makes me

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Speaker 6: a thing about Smell and Walker. To be honest, I

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Speaker 6: forget that I was there. It feels like such a

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Speaker 6: long time ago, even it was just most recently. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think probably most of all, it's just all of

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Speaker 6: the New Zealand team doing a haka when I got

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Speaker 6: into the village or coming back from a meta all

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Speaker 6: of that sort of team New Zealand experience around the village.

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Speaker 6: We really crushed that sort of set up there. We

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Speaker 6: definitely had the best sort of space in the village

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Speaker 6: that the New Zealand team had set up. So is

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Speaker 6: just the real sense of coming home and when I'm

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Speaker 3: How much camaraderie is there amongst a New Zealand team

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Speaker 6: No, absolutely, especially amongst the different sports. They really did

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Speaker 6: and a sort of a viewing area for everyone to

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Speaker 6: first week you get to watch the swimming and other

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Speaker 6: sports going on. Yeah, no, and always get a chance

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Speaker 6: Probably my most vivid memory of that was Kirk Penny

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Speaker 6: taking me under his wing at the Athens Olympics when

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Speaker 6: I was sort of a young spark, sort of intimidated

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Speaker 6: through that experience and we've stayed met since.

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Speaker 2: Amazing stuff.

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Speaker 3: Can ask about two thousand and eight silver medalist, you

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Speaker 6: No, it was really very fortunate in many regards because

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Speaker 6: national anthem on their home stadium at Newtown Park. They

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Speaker 6: I got to have the experience in Beijing and bronze

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I sort of got double the dose, but hey,

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 3: I love that London twenty twelve, you were the flag bearer.

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Speaker 2: How do I tell you about these things?

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Speaker 3: Is there any sort of ceremony around the revealing of

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Speaker 6: I believe I was in my tackety at an athletics

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Speaker 6: Dame Valerieville had already turned it down, perhaps my head Drysdale.

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Speaker 6: So I was just like the third pick because everyone

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Speaker 6: which turned out to be true, right like I ended

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Speaker 2: That must have been a proud moment though.

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Speaker 3: I mean, could you know eight year old Nick Willis

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Speaker 6: Never in my wildest dreams. I was always felt so

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Speaker 2: So it was a huge, huge honor in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you about that and the bronze

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Speaker 6: I think mostly I was just really really proud of

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Speaker 3: Did you ever consider a move to the five thousand

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Speaker 6: I always had the allure and the idea of giving

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Speaker 6: I hoped, and one of my last serious races as

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Speaker 3: Can you take us inside the I don't know, half

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Speaker 2: What's that like? And how much sort of how much impact.

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Speaker 3: Does what you do in the last fifteen minutes before

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it can be a really intense moment. I think

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Speaker 3: And did you enjoy being part of a legacy? You

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: A fan first before I was an athlete at that level,

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Speaker 6: and that's pretty well documented. And one of the most

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's amazing.

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Speaker 3: And Sam Tanner will wear that black singlet in Paris

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Speaker 2: How do you assess his ability to do well in Paris?

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Speaker 6: Sam's doing great. He hasn't had too many opportunities of late,

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Speaker 6: but we've got so many other New Zealanders doing well

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Speaker 2: You've still got that record, mate, three twenty nine sixty six.

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Speaker 3: You reckon.

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Speaker 2: Sam will break that at some stage or somebody will.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure it won't be too long. But these are

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Speaker 3: And just to finish an Olympic year. Do you you

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Speaker 6: My family and I will be in Paris for two

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Speaker 6: that's it's you get a better view sometimes from Talley,

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Speaker 6: There's a lot going on in my other area of life,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can hear the other areas of a life.

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Speaker 3: Clamoring for your retention in the background, Nick, appreciate you

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Speaker 3: and let's hope there's more to come in a black

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your time, mate.

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Speaker 6: Thanks so much, so look forward to catching up when

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Speaker 6: I homeless winter for American Winter, selby there for Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Look forward to that mate. Thanks.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, that is Nick Willis there the latest guest on

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Speaker 3: our road to Paris. Every Sunday, just after the two

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Speaker 3: o'clock news, we chat to one of our great Olympians,

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Speaker 3: and Nick Willis five Olympic Games and two medals in

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Speaker 3: the fifteen hundred meters certainly falls into that category. Another

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