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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from News Talks ed B number.

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Speaker 2: One male golfer, currently ranked thirty seventh in the world,

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Speaker 2: and this year two time went up on the PGA Tour.

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Speaker 3: Back to three Wood all over it.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, now we're talking.

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Speaker 3: What a beautiful shy.

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Speaker 5: Two potts for a second PGA Tour win and you'll

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Speaker 5: take them the fantastic mister Fox is the King of Canada.

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Speaker 2: The King of Canada indeed, and joining us at the

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Speaker 2: Kingsland of Ryan Fox. Great to see you, mate, I'll

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Speaker 2: just turn you on, mate, we go. Nice to see

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Speaker 2: you you too, well. I mean it feels like an

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Speaker 2: All Blacks tearestay, doesn't it. You still follow the All

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Speaker 2: Blacks closely from wherever you are around the world.

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Speaker 4: I certainly do. It's a little hard to watch it

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Speaker 4: in the US.

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Speaker 6: Time differences don't quite work out as well as I'd hope,

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Speaker 6: and they still haven't quite worked out what rugby is

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Speaker 6: in the mainstream over there, so they probably need to

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Speaker 6: do some research on streaming. But yeah, I follow it,

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Speaker 6: I love it, and ye're looking forward to this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: You were born in nineteen eighty seven, so just a

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Speaker 2: few months before your dad guided the All Blacks to

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Speaker 2: Rugby World Cup glory in eighty seven.

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Speaker 3: Were you aware?

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Speaker 2: When did you become aware of your father as a

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Speaker 2: rugby player, not just your dad.

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Speaker 6: He retired when I was six, so I probably didn't

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Speaker 6: quite grasp the concept.

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Speaker 4: While he was still playing.

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Speaker 6: I remember a couple of couple of games of him playing,

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Speaker 6: but I more remember, you know, running around the aftermatch function,

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Speaker 6: you know, kicking balls on the field after the game

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Speaker 6: when you were allowed to do that.

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Speaker 4: That The only thing I really remember is.

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Speaker 6: Him kicking a goal again to the Lions in ninety three,

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Speaker 6: which I think was for Auckland, and I remember to

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Speaker 6: win the game, but I subsequently told it was like

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Speaker 6: twenty minutes to go or whatever. But that's what a

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Speaker 6: six year old brain remembers. But yeah, I sort of

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Speaker 6: as I got older, I appreciated it more. Obviously, I

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Speaker 6: stopped in the street and all of that, and you know,

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Speaker 6: watched a few of the old games.

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Speaker 4: And was like, oh yeah, actually, yeah, dad was pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Understatement, So how seriously did you play be growing up?

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Speaker 4: I was the whole way through school.

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Speaker 6: I played first fifteen at Kings in seventh form. Probably

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Speaker 6: had a few too many concussions to carry on, but yeah,

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Speaker 6: I loved it.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't I didn't help myself.

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Speaker 6: I played ten and I kept goals as well, so

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Speaker 6: there was only going to be one comparison there and

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Speaker 6: I was never going to live up to that.

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Speaker 4: The only thing I had on the old man is

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Speaker 4: I wasn't afraid of tackling.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure that's something you've reminded him of in the

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Speaker 3: years since.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And of course your mum's.

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Speaker 2: Dad, MERV Wallace, captain New Zealand's and cricket as well,

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Speaker 2: and was an absolutely brilliant batsman, so you would have

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Speaker 2: been a decent cricketer as well.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 6: I played cricket all the way through school too. I

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Speaker 6: played a year of club cricket after I left school

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Speaker 6: and didn't enjoy that as much as school cricket. And

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Speaker 6: that's when I tried tournament golf. I played off two

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Speaker 6: at that point, you know, so I was a decent golfer,

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Speaker 6: but you know, never took it seriously. And when I

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Speaker 6: was doing a lawd of Great Auckland UNI and gave

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Speaker 4: What am I going to do? I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I've played a couple of junior tournaments. I liked those.

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Speaker 4: Let's give that a crack and that was me done.

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Speaker 2: What a year it's been for you, mate, those two

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Speaker 2: PGA Tour wins. I've heard you say a couple of

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Speaker 2: times that you knew your best golf across a given

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Speaker 2: weekend was good enough to beat the best golfers in

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Speaker 2: the world.

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Speaker 3: Is that what happened at least twice this year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I mean, obviously, Myrtle Beachs was an alternate event, so

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Speaker 6: it wasn't the best of the best playing, but there's

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Speaker 6: still some really good players. But you know, Canada is

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Speaker 4: Pretty prestigious event. You know, Rory was playing that week.

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Speaker 6: There was a few other a few other guys playing

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Speaker 6: this week in the Ryder Cup that were playing, so yeah,

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Speaker 6: it was that one was extra special.

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Speaker 4: You know that getting the.

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Speaker 6: First one was was amazing and if that was the

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Speaker 6: only one, great, but Canada was just that little bit better.

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Speaker 4: And obviously you know, getting it done in the playoff

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Speaker 4: and everything, Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 6: It was great and you know, nice to get to

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Speaker 6: that point where, Yeah, as you said, I had kind

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Speaker 6: of believed it, and it was nice to actually do it.

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Speaker 2: In Canada, it was what the fourth playoff hole to

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Speaker 2: beat Sam Burns. Were you more relaxed in that playoff situation,

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Speaker 2: having already chalked up when it moved or beat or not.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, I think a playoff's probably a little bit

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Speaker 6: more relaxed to an extent than coming down the streets anyway,

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Speaker 6: because you know, the worst, you can finish the second.

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Speaker 6: Like I always thought, playoffs are something that see as

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Speaker 6: an opportunity. I've got a chance to win, give it

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Speaker 6: it's not like you can double the last and finish.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it was certainly a little easier.

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Speaker 6: In Canada knowing I'd already done it at Myrtle Beach

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Speaker 6: and I was, you know, kind of playing with house money.

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Speaker 4: And it was the same coming down the stretch there.

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Speaker 6: It was like, I'm not playing for anything by trying

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Speaker 6: to win the tournament, and that's a really good place

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Speaker 6: to be coming down the streets. You're not thinking big picture.

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Speaker 6: It's worth first, saw I need these points to keep

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Speaker 6: my card or anything. It was like, I've got everything

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Speaker 6: it was nice to pull it off down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: Jumping around, But back to Myrtle Beach, that chip that chippin'

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Speaker 3: How do you reflect on that on that golf shot.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I just look at it.

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Speaker 6: I'd had a bit of bad luck and playoff and

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Speaker 6: and when I hit it in the trees on on

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Speaker 6: You know, it's you know, I get stuffed in a playoff.

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Speaker 6: But I thought I was pretty lucky to get into

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Speaker 6: Had the luck go the other way for once. And

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Speaker 6: I'm standing there looking at my caddy going we're about

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Speaker 6: and I couldn't watch the guy's part and just went

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, well, okay, that happened pretty quick.

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Speaker 3: Loved it. And then your kids playing in the sand.

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Speaker 4: Yep, that was in Canada.

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Speaker 6: I mean they couldn't have kid lest that dad was

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Speaker 4: They just saw a big sand pit and wanted to play. Love.

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Speaker 2: The other special part of it that Canadian Open was

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Speaker 2: watching his Well, they were over there for a for

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Speaker 2: a a mini tournament. That must have been quite cool

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Speaker 2: to have some other Kiwis, or not just Kiwis, but

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really cool.

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Speaker 6: I don't even know they were playing until like a

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Speaker 4: But we were.

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Speaker 6: Staying quite a way away and it was pretty hard

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Speaker 6: Wood had asked if he could get some tickets for Sunday.

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Speaker 6: I said, no problem, and actually I sent one of

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Speaker 6: the PGA to a media guys into the game. He's

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Speaker 6: a KIWI by the name of Mark Williams, and he

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Speaker 6: got on some tickets and then he got in touch

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Speaker 4: Few of them that wanted to come out, it was

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Speaker 6: I didn't really pay that much attention out on the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very very cool.

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Speaker 2: Like we're going to find it later in the year

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Speaker 2: where they're going to be based for the World Cup

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Speaker 2: next year. I don't know that the schedules are unlikely

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Speaker 2: to return the favor and go along and watch them plug.

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Speaker 4: That would be very cool. Yeah, very cool.

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Speaker 2: So how much freedom does twenty twenty five, give you

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Speaker 4: Basically all the freedom in the world.

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Speaker 6: You know, the biggest thing on the PGA Tour and

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Speaker 6: and that gives you. You get to pick and choose

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Speaker 6: events next year. I got three of the four majors guaranteed.

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Speaker 6: in next year. And it's a lot different than it

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Speaker 6: has been the last couple of years. I feel like

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Speaker 6: the PGA Tour does a great job of making you play,

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Speaker 6: whether you're trying to keep a card or you're trying

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Speaker 6: the last couple of years. I ended up playing a

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Speaker 6: And then this year, obviously, with a couple of wins,

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Speaker 6: of signature events and ended up playing something like nine

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Speaker 4: Because of that.

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Speaker 6: It was all worth it though, And then next year,

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Speaker 6: Open in July, I can pick my schedule and pretty

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Speaker 3: Winning a major. Is that a goal?

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Speaker 6: I feel like that's on the dream list rather than

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Speaker 6: So hopefully the same thing can kind of happen with

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Speaker 6: But you know, there's a lot of top players that

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Speaker 2: So you're back home here for at eight weeks, a

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Speaker 6: Yep, I've got Ossie Pgaossie Open, which feels like my

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Speaker 6: The Century's not going to be in Hawaii this year

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Speaker 2: And Manuka Fuel Chasing the Foxes back Royal Auckland and

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Speaker 3: Different format this year as a yeah.

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Speaker 4: You know, you want to play really.

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Speaker 6: Well six holes as a sprint, and if you miss

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Speaker 3: What's it like watching a rugby test with your dad?

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Speaker 6: Us to be honest. No, obviously he's he's very passionate

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Speaker 6: Little General and that still comes out. He likes swearing

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Speaker 6: But he can be he can be a little bit

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Speaker 2: Great to see you, mate, Thanks for making time, you know,

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Speaker 2: in your time off to come and have a chat

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Speaker 2: to us. Enjoy the rest of the day man, and

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Speaker 2: really good to catch up. Congratulations on a magnificent year.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Jason, appreciate it all.

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Speaker 3: The best of your mate. Cheers, Ryan Fox joining us

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Speaker 3: here at the Kingsland. Gee, what a year for her mate.

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