1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,707 Speaker 1: from Newstalks EDB two twenty. 3 00:00:13,427 --> 00:00:17,347 Speaker 2: Six on NEWSTALKSZBB and Weekend Sport. Doctor Dave Edgar is 4 00:00:17,387 --> 00:00:20,027 Speaker 2: a man of many talents. He's a major in the 5 00:00:20,067 --> 00:00:24,787 Speaker 2: New Zealand Army, currently Officer Commanding Physical Performance Squadron. He 6 00:00:24,907 --> 00:00:28,187 Speaker 2: has an extensive background working in rugby as a strength 7 00:00:28,187 --> 00:00:31,147 Speaker 2: and conditioning coach for Whitecuttle, the chiefs Man of Samoa, 8 00:00:31,187 --> 00:00:35,507 Speaker 2: and also in Japan. And he's an accomplished marathon swimmer 9 00:00:35,827 --> 00:00:39,347 Speaker 2: and endurance athlete. He'll shortly look to complete the New 10 00:00:39,427 --> 00:00:43,987 Speaker 2: Zealand Marathon swimming triple crown by swimming Fovo straight. He's 11 00:00:44,027 --> 00:00:47,507 Speaker 2: already completed the length of Lake Topor and Cook straight. 12 00:00:47,867 --> 00:00:50,867 Speaker 2: He's also on a mission to conquer the Ocean seven, 13 00:00:51,267 --> 00:00:53,147 Speaker 2: which I'm keen to find out more about. He's doing 14 00:00:53,187 --> 00:00:56,667 Speaker 2: all of this to help raise awareness for dyslexia and 15 00:00:56,787 --> 00:01:00,507 Speaker 2: those with learning challenges. Dr Dave Egar is with us. Dave, 16 00:01:00,547 --> 00:01:03,267 Speaker 2: this is amazing. Let's start with your upcoming swim. What 17 00:01:03,347 --> 00:01:06,787 Speaker 2: are the specific challenges of swimming the Favah straight? 18 00:01:07,787 --> 00:01:09,907 Speaker 3: Hey, get a pony, great to be here and me 19 00:01:10,027 --> 00:01:13,667 Speaker 3: Thanks for the awesome intro. Yeah, look the FOVO. The 20 00:01:14,947 --> 00:01:18,747 Speaker 3: big challenges is, look, we've got the tide window, it's 21 00:01:18,747 --> 00:01:21,147 Speaker 3: always the weather. So I'm talking with the boat captain 22 00:01:21,187 --> 00:01:23,307 Speaker 3: down there daily at the moment to try and nail 23 00:01:23,387 --> 00:01:27,147 Speaker 3: the ideal day it's looking like next Thursday or Friday. 24 00:01:28,027 --> 00:01:30,147 Speaker 3: And then around that just the winds, trying to get 25 00:01:30,147 --> 00:01:33,907 Speaker 3: the best winds to ride across and water temperature. I've 26 00:01:33,907 --> 00:01:35,707 Speaker 3: done a heck of a lot of cold water training. 27 00:01:35,787 --> 00:01:37,747 Speaker 3: And probably the other thing that's in the back of 28 00:01:37,747 --> 00:01:40,187 Speaker 3: the mind is the old great things floating around in 29 00:01:40,227 --> 00:01:40,947 Speaker 3: the water down there. 30 00:01:41,507 --> 00:01:45,027 Speaker 2: Yes, I'd imagine that'd be something you'd like to avoid. 31 00:01:45,227 --> 00:01:48,787 Speaker 2: So when you are looking for ideal conditions and you've identified, 32 00:01:48,787 --> 00:01:51,507 Speaker 2: as you say, a window that might be your perfect day, 33 00:01:52,027 --> 00:01:53,187 Speaker 2: what does that day look like? 34 00:01:54,147 --> 00:01:56,827 Speaker 3: Okay, what does it look like? Yeah, I guess we 35 00:01:56,907 --> 00:01:59,427 Speaker 3: target these windows pretty early out and it goes off 36 00:01:59,427 --> 00:02:01,147 Speaker 3: the tides. You want to ib tide, which is the 37 00:02:01,907 --> 00:02:05,387 Speaker 3: I guess the lowest tide of the month or one 38 00:02:05,387 --> 00:02:07,707 Speaker 3: of the last of the months, less water pushing you around. 39 00:02:07,907 --> 00:02:09,427 Speaker 3: You still go on a high tide, so you get 40 00:02:09,427 --> 00:02:12,467 Speaker 3: the flow so you can target that, you know, months 41 00:02:12,467 --> 00:02:16,107 Speaker 3: out going off different predictions and tides and day and whatnot. 42 00:02:16,907 --> 00:02:19,547 Speaker 3: The challenging point then becomes obviously the weather. You can 43 00:02:19,547 --> 00:02:23,827 Speaker 3: follow weather patterns, but you're not sure exactly what's going 44 00:02:23,867 --> 00:02:26,307 Speaker 3: to happen at that time. So really it's just being 45 00:02:26,747 --> 00:02:29,987 Speaker 3: ready to go, confident that you can do it, and 46 00:02:30,147 --> 00:02:32,187 Speaker 3: hoping the stars align a little bit, because if it 47 00:02:32,187 --> 00:02:34,347 Speaker 3: doesn't come off, you know, you've got that risk. You've 48 00:02:34,387 --> 00:02:36,507 Speaker 3: invested so much. Do you jump in and do it 49 00:02:36,627 --> 00:02:38,787 Speaker 3: or do you just hold off a few more weeks, 50 00:02:38,787 --> 00:02:40,427 Speaker 3: a few months, will wait till the next year. 51 00:02:41,187 --> 00:02:44,427 Speaker 2: Do you have a target time in mind to swim over? 52 00:02:46,067 --> 00:02:50,147 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've looked at this and it's an interesting one 53 00:02:50,187 --> 00:02:51,747 Speaker 3: because you can put a target time on it, but 54 00:02:52,187 --> 00:02:54,387 Speaker 3: you really I don't want to have a set target 55 00:02:54,387 --> 00:02:56,187 Speaker 3: time in my head. And then things don't quite go 56 00:02:56,267 --> 00:02:59,747 Speaker 3: to plan and you're getting pushed, you know, one way 57 00:02:59,827 --> 00:03:01,387 Speaker 3: or the other, and it's taking a bit longer. But 58 00:03:01,987 --> 00:03:04,187 Speaker 3: I really think it's achievable in sort of about eight 59 00:03:04,227 --> 00:03:06,467 Speaker 3: to ten hours, all going well close it to of 60 00:03:06,467 --> 00:03:09,387 Speaker 3: the eight and it's just you know, sticking to a plan, 61 00:03:09,467 --> 00:03:11,867 Speaker 3: listening to your crew, and just pushing as hard as can. 62 00:03:12,347 --> 00:03:14,827 Speaker 2: How does that compare it to swimming Cook Straight or 63 00:03:14,907 --> 00:03:15,427 Speaker 2: Lake Topoor. 64 00:03:16,787 --> 00:03:19,587 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I've had been asked that quite a bit. 65 00:03:19,667 --> 00:03:22,467 Speaker 3: I mean, the difference between the fresh water and the 66 00:03:22,507 --> 00:03:25,907 Speaker 3: salt water, for a start, is that when I look at, 67 00:03:25,907 --> 00:03:29,067 Speaker 3: say I compare Cook Straight to Lake Talpo, I was 68 00:03:29,107 --> 00:03:32,827 Speaker 3: probably a lot more beaten up swimming Lake Talpo Wow, 69 00:03:32,907 --> 00:03:35,867 Speaker 3: because you sit lower in the water, you don't have 70 00:03:35,907 --> 00:03:38,227 Speaker 3: the buoyancy and you just swim in a one big 71 00:03:38,267 --> 00:03:41,587 Speaker 3: straight line all day. And on that swim, I got 72 00:03:41,587 --> 00:03:43,747 Speaker 3: through it no worries, but my I had one of 73 00:03:43,787 --> 00:03:45,667 Speaker 3: my burser and my left bursa and my shoulder sort 74 00:03:45,667 --> 00:03:47,387 Speaker 3: of started to not play the game with about two 75 00:03:47,427 --> 00:03:49,587 Speaker 3: hours to go, So that was sort of quite agony 76 00:03:49,627 --> 00:03:51,547 Speaker 3: because you're sitting lower in the water, you're reaching up 77 00:03:51,587 --> 00:03:55,067 Speaker 3: and I was really sore. The Cook Straight not so sore. 78 00:03:55,227 --> 00:03:57,267 Speaker 3: Body was in good nick, but I was just really tired, 79 00:03:58,107 --> 00:04:00,867 Speaker 3: probably from being pushed around a little bit more on 80 00:04:00,987 --> 00:04:04,107 Speaker 3: the tide. So yeah, with the FOVO, same sort of thing. 81 00:04:05,227 --> 00:04:07,987 Speaker 3: Tapering Now, the heck of a lot of strength work, 82 00:04:07,987 --> 00:04:10,787 Speaker 3: conditioning work, obviously, lots and lots of swimming. Now some 83 00:04:10,947 --> 00:04:14,067 Speaker 3: you know, pretty decent swims over the summer upwards of 84 00:04:14,107 --> 00:04:17,227 Speaker 3: sort of twenty four to twenty five k's and yeah, 85 00:04:17,307 --> 00:04:19,027 Speaker 3: just getting his best nick as I can, and freshening 86 00:04:19,107 --> 00:04:19,987 Speaker 3: up just to be ready to go. 87 00:04:20,227 --> 00:04:22,227 Speaker 2: So how long did cook straight take you? What was 88 00:04:22,267 --> 00:04:22,987 Speaker 2: the time for that? 89 00:04:23,947 --> 00:04:26,787 Speaker 3: My cook straight time was eight hours forty seven? 90 00:04:26,827 --> 00:04:28,387 Speaker 2: Okay, so about the same, about the same as what 91 00:04:28,387 --> 00:04:29,547 Speaker 2: you're aiming for for five Oh. 92 00:04:30,227 --> 00:04:32,707 Speaker 3: Yeah, about the same. And again, like I say, you've 93 00:04:32,707 --> 00:04:34,707 Speaker 3: got to be prepared for everything. Point to point, cook 94 00:04:34,747 --> 00:04:38,027 Speaker 3: straight was twenty three kilometers. I swam eight hours forty seven, 95 00:04:38,227 --> 00:04:39,827 Speaker 3: but I covered forty four k's that day. 96 00:04:39,947 --> 00:04:40,667 Speaker 2: Oh wow. 97 00:04:41,267 --> 00:04:44,867 Speaker 3: Yeah, eight hour forty seven was still a pretty damn 98 00:04:44,907 --> 00:04:46,467 Speaker 3: good time, and there was a few people didn't even 99 00:04:46,507 --> 00:04:47,787 Speaker 3: get across the summer. 100 00:04:47,867 --> 00:04:51,947 Speaker 2: So yeah, what is it about marathon swimming that appeals 101 00:04:51,947 --> 00:04:52,147 Speaker 2: to you? 102 00:04:53,707 --> 00:04:56,547 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I get asked a lot. Look, it's I 103 00:04:56,547 --> 00:04:59,587 Speaker 3: guess I've always been in endurance, an indurance athlete, in endurance, 104 00:04:59,627 --> 00:05:03,867 Speaker 3: junkie probably more so. And it's opened up another whole 105 00:05:03,867 --> 00:05:06,107 Speaker 3: world for me, because I mean, I'm fifty two now, 106 00:05:06,627 --> 00:05:09,027 Speaker 3: I've represented I have represented New Zealand and Trithleon an 107 00:05:09,027 --> 00:05:11,547 Speaker 3: iron Man, an Ironman Trithon was my sport did Hawaii 108 00:05:11,547 --> 00:05:12,907 Speaker 3: iron Man, and that was me, it's going to be 109 00:05:12,947 --> 00:05:14,587 Speaker 3: a pro and I had this career laid out, but 110 00:05:14,627 --> 00:05:17,747 Speaker 3: then my knees sort of didn't play the game. Maybe 111 00:05:17,827 --> 00:05:19,907 Speaker 3: too many years in the military and caring packs and 112 00:05:19,907 --> 00:05:23,747 Speaker 3: whatnot what we do didn't help. But now open water swimming, 113 00:05:23,907 --> 00:05:28,147 Speaker 3: because I find, regardless of age, it's not as tough 114 00:05:28,187 --> 00:05:30,307 Speaker 3: on the body, it's not as pounding, and it's pliny. 115 00:05:30,307 --> 00:05:31,867 Speaker 3: It has opened up this whole new world to me. 116 00:05:32,027 --> 00:05:35,507 Speaker 3: In that triathlete, you know, we prided ourselves on being 117 00:05:35,547 --> 00:05:37,707 Speaker 3: skinny and lean. It's a whole different world. I've had 118 00:05:37,707 --> 00:05:39,827 Speaker 3: to put on weight in fat just to stay warm 119 00:05:39,867 --> 00:05:42,707 Speaker 3: in the water. The time in the water, the mental challenges, 120 00:05:42,747 --> 00:05:45,547 Speaker 3: dealing with the cold, dealing with currents, dealing with you know, 121 00:05:45,947 --> 00:05:49,427 Speaker 3: sea life, just all these different challenges that are all 122 00:05:49,427 --> 00:05:52,067 Speaker 3: down to you to push through on that self challenge. 123 00:05:52,307 --> 00:05:54,667 Speaker 2: Amazing. So tell us about the Ocean seven. 124 00:05:55,867 --> 00:05:59,627 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Ocean seven. So that's it's I guess it's 125 00:05:59,667 --> 00:06:02,787 Speaker 3: it's a series or it's you know that it's a 126 00:06:02,867 --> 00:06:07,027 Speaker 3: challenge that it's the toughest seven oceans of the world, 127 00:06:07,267 --> 00:06:08,907 Speaker 3: any one of them on the given day is a 128 00:06:08,947 --> 00:06:11,747 Speaker 3: tough one. So that's sort of the real benchmark of 129 00:06:11,907 --> 00:06:16,067 Speaker 3: open water international swimming. Sorry was that? 130 00:06:16,147 --> 00:06:17,787 Speaker 2: No, I was going to ask you how far and 131 00:06:17,827 --> 00:06:19,507 Speaker 2: wide you have to go to if you if you 132 00:06:19,547 --> 00:06:20,307 Speaker 2: are to achieve that. 133 00:06:21,107 --> 00:06:24,347 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, she's she's pretty decent. I've done the cook straight. 134 00:06:24,387 --> 00:06:27,507 Speaker 3: That's one. Then you've got In Europe, there's a few. 135 00:06:27,547 --> 00:06:30,507 Speaker 3: So there's the English Channel, the Northern Channel, which is 136 00:06:30,587 --> 00:06:36,387 Speaker 3: Ireland to Scotland. In Europe, there is the Gibraltar which 137 00:06:36,427 --> 00:06:39,667 Speaker 3: is pretty much Europe to Africa, Catalina which is Catalina 138 00:06:39,707 --> 00:06:43,427 Speaker 3: Island to San Francisco, cold waters and sharks to sue 139 00:06:43,467 --> 00:06:46,747 Speaker 3: you straight in Japan which is the mainland of Japan 140 00:06:46,867 --> 00:06:51,907 Speaker 3: to her Kaido, and Malachai Channel in Hawaii, so all 141 00:06:51,947 --> 00:06:53,947 Speaker 3: over the place. I'm really cold, some really warm. 142 00:06:54,147 --> 00:06:57,787 Speaker 2: Amazing. What a challenge for you. Why does the raising 143 00:06:57,787 --> 00:07:00,547 Speaker 2: of awareness for dyslexia when you're doing all of this 144 00:07:00,707 --> 00:07:03,027 Speaker 2: resonate particularly with you, Dave? 145 00:07:04,027 --> 00:07:10,067 Speaker 3: Well, pretty simple, really, and I've faced a heck of 146 00:07:10,107 --> 00:07:12,307 Speaker 3: a lot of challenges in my time, man. I guess 147 00:07:12,307 --> 00:07:14,787 Speaker 3: it sort of goes hand in hand something that maybe 148 00:07:14,907 --> 00:07:17,147 Speaker 3: I used to try and hide or put to the 149 00:07:17,187 --> 00:07:19,827 Speaker 3: side and not want people to know. But I've found 150 00:07:19,867 --> 00:07:22,467 Speaker 3: ways to get through it. And I mean the endurance sport, 151 00:07:22,507 --> 00:07:25,187 Speaker 3: the swimming has just been a really really good platform 152 00:07:25,427 --> 00:07:27,387 Speaker 3: to use that I'm pushing this area. You know, I've 153 00:07:27,387 --> 00:07:31,587 Speaker 3: pushed myself physically but mentally as well. So hence you 154 00:07:31,587 --> 00:07:34,307 Speaker 3: know I have a platform. I swim off doctor Dave swims. 155 00:07:34,747 --> 00:07:38,427 Speaker 3: And that's because even as you know, the early challenges 156 00:07:38,467 --> 00:07:41,667 Speaker 3: I faced, I managed to achieve getting my PhD. I 157 00:07:41,707 --> 00:07:44,187 Speaker 3: never thought i'd have a degree, let alone a PhD. 158 00:07:44,267 --> 00:07:46,387 Speaker 3: I'm I'm a proud born and bred took it all boy, 159 00:07:46,627 --> 00:07:48,947 Speaker 3: left school, worked in a bush gang. I was pretty 160 00:07:48,947 --> 00:07:52,347 Speaker 3: proud of that. But I just, you know, early on, 161 00:07:52,427 --> 00:07:54,627 Speaker 3: I thought this is okay, but I can achieve some 162 00:07:54,667 --> 00:07:57,267 Speaker 3: cool stuff. And I just kept pushing through joining the military, 163 00:07:57,307 --> 00:07:59,107 Speaker 3: got a degree, and just sort of pushed from there, 164 00:07:59,147 --> 00:08:02,587 Speaker 3: so advocating learning that we can achieve. We've just got 165 00:08:02,627 --> 00:08:04,667 Speaker 3: to find pretty much our own way to achieve. 166 00:08:04,667 --> 00:08:07,667 Speaker 2: The end loop amazing and and I to all of us. 167 00:08:07,667 --> 00:08:09,227 Speaker 2: You've worked a butt in rugby as well, tell us 168 00:08:09,227 --> 00:08:09,627 Speaker 2: about that. 169 00:08:10,387 --> 00:08:14,547 Speaker 3: Yeah, mate, Yeah, I've had a pretty cool career. I 170 00:08:14,667 --> 00:08:16,667 Speaker 3: again talked about my endurance sport, and I went to 171 00:08:16,707 --> 00:08:19,867 Speaker 3: Otarger University when I first left the military, and you know, 172 00:08:19,987 --> 00:08:21,507 Speaker 3: as we do, I sort of thought I'm going to 173 00:08:21,587 --> 00:08:23,587 Speaker 3: get a job an endurance. Then realized that New Zealand 174 00:08:23,587 --> 00:08:27,027 Speaker 3: actually had very few jobs, so rugby was the way 175 00:08:27,067 --> 00:08:28,547 Speaker 3: to go. I played rugby when I was younger. I 176 00:08:28,547 --> 00:08:33,427 Speaker 3: always I was a pirates man. Pirates yeah, and I 177 00:08:33,587 --> 00:08:35,867 Speaker 3: thought pretty early this is the way to go. So yeah, straight, 178 00:08:35,947 --> 00:08:38,147 Speaker 3: I managed to work with the university clubs, had my 179 00:08:38,267 --> 00:08:40,227 Speaker 3: degree and I was lucky enough to get my first 180 00:08:40,267 --> 00:08:42,707 Speaker 3: rugby job was back with my boyhood team of Whitekatto 181 00:08:43,947 --> 00:08:45,507 Speaker 3: and that was in the early days when Warren Gatlan 182 00:08:45,587 --> 00:08:49,107 Speaker 3: come back. So I had some success there assistant trainer 183 00:08:49,147 --> 00:08:52,107 Speaker 3: with the Chiefs, and then journey sort of carried on. 184 00:08:52,147 --> 00:08:54,307 Speaker 3: I was lucky enough to get the job with Somemore. 185 00:08:54,347 --> 00:08:56,907 Speaker 3: I was the manage some wore head strength conditioning coach 186 00:08:57,387 --> 00:09:00,907 Speaker 3: for four years, did the two eleven World Cup, and 187 00:09:00,947 --> 00:09:03,627 Speaker 3: then off the back of that, managed to go to Japan. 188 00:09:03,747 --> 00:09:08,547 Speaker 3: I was actually I was employed by Eddie Jones at 189 00:09:08,547 --> 00:09:11,347 Speaker 3: Suntery to look after the Suntry club. Had two years 190 00:09:11,347 --> 00:09:13,627 Speaker 3: there and had some success and it was that was 191 00:09:13,627 --> 00:09:16,507 Speaker 3: a pretty cool journey. Another couple of years around Japan 192 00:09:16,587 --> 00:09:18,347 Speaker 3: and then sort of headed back to New Zealand for 193 00:09:18,427 --> 00:09:20,507 Speaker 3: my kids to do high school and relink for some more. 194 00:09:20,587 --> 00:09:23,267 Speaker 3: So it's been a pretty cool journey, and I've done 195 00:09:23,387 --> 00:09:25,867 Speaker 3: three World Cups now with some more and now sort 196 00:09:25,907 --> 00:09:27,387 Speaker 3: of trying to bring a lot of that high performance 197 00:09:27,387 --> 00:09:29,947 Speaker 3: work into the defense force as well with rugby and 198 00:09:30,067 --> 00:09:33,947 Speaker 3: within my jobs. So trying to the bridge bridge the 199 00:09:33,947 --> 00:09:36,947 Speaker 3: performance world's into defense and rugby and everything as we go. 200 00:09:37,507 --> 00:09:39,827 Speaker 2: Amazing, what a journey it's been, and much more to 201 00:09:39,867 --> 00:09:42,547 Speaker 2: come by the sounds of it, Dave. The immediate point 202 00:09:42,587 --> 00:09:45,027 Speaker 2: of business is swimming fovo straight. Let's hope the window 203 00:09:45,427 --> 00:09:48,187 Speaker 2: opens for you and stays open. People can find out 204 00:09:48,187 --> 00:09:49,747 Speaker 2: more at your website. What's the website? 205 00:09:49,987 --> 00:09:55,347 Speaker 3: Yeah, look at my website ww dot doctor Dave Swims 206 00:09:55,387 --> 00:09:59,467 Speaker 3: dot org dot z. Also look on Facebook, doctor Dave Swims. 207 00:09:59,547 --> 00:10:01,587 Speaker 3: I've got a Facebook page and I'm you know, promoting 208 00:10:01,627 --> 00:10:03,987 Speaker 3: the swim but also trying to teach people about it. 209 00:10:04,107 --> 00:10:06,107 Speaker 3: You know, why we do cold water of ours and 210 00:10:06,467 --> 00:10:08,427 Speaker 3: how does nutrition work and all the crazy stuff that 211 00:10:08,507 --> 00:10:11,187 Speaker 3: goes with it that people don't understand. So you have 212 00:10:11,227 --> 00:10:11,707 Speaker 3: a look at. 213 00:10:11,587 --> 00:10:13,827 Speaker 2: That been a great pleasure catching up with your Dave. 214 00:10:13,867 --> 00:10:15,547 Speaker 2: All the best for fou vote and look forward to 215 00:10:15,587 --> 00:10:18,387 Speaker 2: tracking your progress as your head towards the guts of 216 00:10:18,427 --> 00:10:20,547 Speaker 2: Ocean seven as well. Been a pleasure to catch up. 217 00:10:21,227 --> 00:10:23,667 Speaker 3: Thanks Tony, really appreciate it. And if people want to 218 00:10:23,667 --> 00:10:25,627 Speaker 3: get on to that site and have a look, I'll 219 00:10:25,627 --> 00:10:27,627 Speaker 3: have the GPS tracker up so you can watch me 220 00:10:27,707 --> 00:10:29,787 Speaker 3: chasing those sharks all day or swimming away from those 221 00:10:29,787 --> 00:10:30,387 Speaker 3: sharks all day. 222 00:10:31,147 --> 00:10:32,867 Speaker 2: Let's open that one. Good to chat mate. 223 00:10:32,867 --> 00:10:34,867 Speaker 3: All the best, thanks mate, thank you very much. 224 00:10:34,747 --> 00:10:38,227 Speaker 2: No, thank you, Dave. Doctor Dave Edgar there marathon swimmer 225 00:10:38,267 --> 00:10:41,747 Speaker 2: and extremely good rooster. You could pick up from that 226 00:10:41,867 --> 00:10:46,987 Speaker 2: chat doctor Dave Swims. That's Dr Daveswims dot org dot 227 00:10:47,067 --> 00:10:50,627 Speaker 2: n z Dave Swims dot org dot z, or just 228 00:10:50,667 --> 00:10:53,747 Speaker 2: look for doctor Dave Swims on Facebook. What a good man, 229 00:10:54,067 --> 00:10:55,547 Speaker 2: what a really good man. 230 00:10:56,547 --> 00:10:59,747 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 231 00:10:59,867 --> 00:11:03,147 Speaker 1: to News Talk zed B weekends from midday or follow 232 00:11:03,187 --> 00:11:04,787 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.