1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Devin Gray are UK correspondents with us. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 2: Now, hey, Kevin, hi there, Heather, Okay, so tell me. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: What's going on here. So the Greek coastcard has reportedly 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: thrown people deliberately into the into the water and caused 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: their death. 6 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: That's what the BBC is alleging. Its research has shown. 7 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 2: The Greek government has long been accused of what are 8 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 2: called forced returns, in other words, pushing people back, in 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: this case towards Turkey where they've crossed from, which is 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: illegal under international law. The Turkish authorities were at one point, 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: of course, in a deal with the EU stopping migrants 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 2: and refugees from crossing into Greece. That deal in twenty sixteen, 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: but after four years Turkey said it can no longer 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: enforce it. And Greece has had some two hundred and 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: sixty three thousand sea arrivals in the last year alone, 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: and that's across, sorry, the all of the EU, with 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: Greece receiving about forty one and a half thousand of those. 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: So it is a massive problem, and Greece is always 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: being very keen to deny these so called pushbacks. So 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: human rights groups allege thousands of people seeking asylum in 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: Europe have been illegally forced back, so in precision. In 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: more detail, the BBC is alleging that in one particular incident, 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 2: nine people died as a result of being forced back 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: into Greek territorial waters. It's alleged that they often arrive 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: in an island, they are often then prevented from going 26 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: to a particular center that they need to in order 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: to claim asylum. Instead, they're put on a boat and 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: towed back out onto the water. And sometimes it's alleged 29 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: with either the valve of the inflatable deliberately loosened, or 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: indeed the boat is partially punctured. So there are some 31 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: really serious accusations here, and the Greeks are saying that's 32 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: just not true. We work very hard with these asylum 33 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: seekers to process them. 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: Devin. Why is the strength of feeling in Germany so 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: much re Vladimir Zelinsky that they booed Rod Stewart. 36 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: I do know. It's an interesting one, this and it 37 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: happened in Leipzig, and it just goes to show I 38 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: think that actually there is partially in some areas, a 39 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: bit of a tiredness with the whole Ukrainian Russian War. 40 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: Of course, Europe hasn't suffered in that sense of being 41 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: at the sharp end of the war, but prices of 42 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: fuel and so forth have really rocketed along with wheats, 43 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: so they're feeling it that way, and then I fear 44 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: as well there is this element perhaps of right wing 45 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: groups actually supporting Russia. So what happened was the seventy 46 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: nine year old singer was playing at Leipzig's Quarterback Immobilian 47 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: Arena and before performing the nineteen ninety one hit Rhythm 48 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: of My Heart, he calls that a war song and 49 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: he's dedicated it to Kiev in recent shows. So before 50 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 2: performing this that Leipzig, the Ukrainian flag was projected onto 51 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: a screen behind him, and then images of v Lodo 52 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: min Zelenski, the President of the Ukraine, are shown. But 53 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: that seemed to prompt loud booze, shouts and whistles from 54 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: the crowd, with videos from social media showing the crowd 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 2: appearing to jeer him as he salutes the Ukrainian president. 56 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: Now this is a really interesting aspect in that Sir 57 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: Rod Stuart has talked in the past about how he 58 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: believes Russia really is committing terrible crimes against Ukraine, and 59 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: also revealed he'd rented and furnished a home for a 60 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: family of seven Ukrainian refugees here in the UK. He said, 61 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: quote words couldn't describe what we were watching anyway. Whether 62 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: he's now going to have more boeing booing rather remains 63 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: to be seen. He is in fact returning to Germany 64 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: for a show at Hamburg's Bartley's Arena later this month 65 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: before going to Cologne and Munich, and a representative for 66 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: Sir rod Well has been asked to comment but has 67 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: yet to make any statement. 68 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: Interesting Kevin, Hey, thank you very much, enjoy your evening. 69 00:03:58,600 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again in a couple of days. 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: Gavin Gray are UK corresponding for more from Hither Duplessy 71 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: Allen Drive. 72 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: Listen live to News Talks it B from four pm weekdays, 73 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio