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Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking, breakfast with the range Rover, the law designed

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Speaker 1: to intrigue and use toks.

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Speaker 2: Dead be wedding and welcome from the odd education file.

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Speaker 2: The number of kids leading unqualified still going up, but

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Speaker 2: the poping is going down. Concerns over the transportation of

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Speaker 2: drugs on regional flights in this country. The Peranara Harky headlines,

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Speaker 2: of course, are the lads in the commentary box Richard

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Speaker 2: Arnold's see price. They do the business as well Hosking.

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Speaker 2: It is Monday morning, welcome to it. Seven past six. Now,

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Speaker 2: as Cop twenty nine went into the predictable overtime to try,

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Speaker 2: yet again to create the illusion that something was going

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Speaker 2: to happen, I think we can fairly reasonably argue that

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Speaker 2: this is one of the least effective cops ever. The

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Speaker 2: world is tired, tired from well, a whole lot of

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Speaker 2: stuff really woars. COVID economic shambles, trying to save the

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Speaker 2: planet with the recipe of debt and ideology and restrictive

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Speaker 2: lifestyle is beyond this. Saudi Arabia was described by one

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Speaker 2: season participant as a wrecking ball. They are credited with

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Speaker 2: having one of the most sophisticated forms of diplomacy going

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Speaker 2: that essentially slows down the process to the point of

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Speaker 2: seeing it go backwards. It was meant, of course, as

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Speaker 2: as slight. But part of what they're doing involves consensus. Now,

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Speaker 2: obviously they've got an interest in oil, but it is

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Speaker 2: worth pointing out I think that although they are biased,

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Speaker 2: at least in part, they are biased for a very

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Speaker 2: good reason. We actually need oil, oil, and gas, and

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Speaker 2: we will do so for years of not decades to come.

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Speaker 2: The ideologues at the other end of the spectrum of

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Speaker 2: places like cop don't accept that, of course, and that

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Speaker 2: When realism is lacking in a debate, the debate tends

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Speaker 2: to get bogged down. Saudi Arabia wants consensus from all

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Speaker 2: those who participate in the climate debate about two hundred countries.

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Speaker 2: Unless they argue, we all sign up, we can't agree

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Speaker 2: now that suits their purposes, of course, sort of like

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Speaker 2: the Security Council. Voting rules suit the Security Council. Hence

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Speaker 2: nothing gets done. But here is your reality. Bludgeoning people

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Speaker 2: into submission doesn't and hasn't worked either. The Paris Accord

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Speaker 2: is a bust. We're not going to hit one point

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Speaker 2: five degrees, not a hope. Why because we don't have consensus.

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Speaker 2: What's the point good intent when it's not followed by

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Speaker 2: good action. How much energy in time do you want

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Speaker 2: to invest in theory when the reality is so profoundly disappointing?

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Speaker 2: How many cops do you need? Were America and India

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Speaker 2: and China don't even turn up to realize that Saudi Arabia,

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Speaker 2: although beating their own drum, actually has a fairly logical point.

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Speaker 2: We are either all in or Cop thirty will be

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Speaker 2: as pointless as twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: News of the World in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Yes, copp has always its struggled to come to any

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Speaker 2: sort of concrete solution, but at the last minute some

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Speaker 2: money for a fund to help poor nations with the usual.

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Speaker 3: Response three hundred billion dollars till twenty thirty five is

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Speaker 3: a joke and it's not something we should take lately,

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Speaker 3: I'd not think it's something we.

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Speaker 2: Should clap our hands.

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Speaker 1: And foss hosts to take it.

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Speaker 2: Also not happy.

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Speaker 3: This has been stage managed, and we are extremely, extremely

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Speaker 3: disappointed that.

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Speaker 2: This shop clipping one of the literally hundreds of British delegates,

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Speaker 4: This is just an overall total for the world as

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Speaker 4: a whole. You've got new countries that haven't contributed before,

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Speaker 2: If they pay actually on the climate. But it was

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Speaker 2: all over Britain.

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Speaker 5: The weather ward of South Wales has now expired. That said,

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Speaker 5: though we've had significant rain in the area. There are

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Speaker 2: And then we have a boat coming this week on

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Speaker 2: a sister of dying laws and whether they change another polsay. Yes,

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Speaker 6: The title of the bill is very very clear. It

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Speaker 6: is called Terminally Ill Adults end of Life Bill. It

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Speaker 6: cannot include anybody other than people who are terminally ill

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Speaker 2: Tories are on board.

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Speaker 7: I saw my mom pass away in very difficult circumstances,

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Speaker 7: and I think that choices should have been there then,

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Speaker 2: Finally, there have been four arrests in la after what

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Speaker 2: police began Operation bear Claw after four people all reported

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Speaker 2: They found that one of the friends dressed up in

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Speaker 2: bard and conspiracy. That as News of the World at

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Speaker 2: ninety if you want a bit of news out of Japan.

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Speaker 2: The government, as you will be well aware, the oldp

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Speaker 2: got pants in the recent election. They're still in government,

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Speaker 2: but they're a minority and they're sort of scrambling to

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Speaker 2: they came up with on Friday was two hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty eight billion dollars by way of a stimulus package.

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Speaker 2: They got to get it to and through the parliament,

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Speaker 2: but they're looking to do so by Christmas. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: I'd be broh Ki has had a very difficult weekend.

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Speaker 2: The private sector has gone into reverse. This the PMI

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Speaker 2: to number that came out, they're expecting fifty one point eight,

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Speaker 2: we have a new record post election low by way

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Speaker 2: Tories for goodness sake, just six ahead of Reform. They're

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Speaker 2: Morning with Greg Smith. Morning to you, morning, Am I

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Speaker 2: very very pleased to see the good news coming out

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Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, and we've had lots of good news from

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Speaker 8: the decept them wey, so more good news on Friday.

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Speaker 8: they might. The shares are up strongly on Friday, but

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Speaker 8: Yes, this is a pretty key consumer confidence survey. So

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Speaker 8: November twenty twenty, So expectations surged. For Republicans, they retreated.

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Speaker 8: does seem like Americans they reckon that the Fed has

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Speaker 8: these fell slightly in terms of inflation expectations to two

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Speaker 2: I need some numbers, please.

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Speaker 8: Well the best numbers that you like. At the start

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Speaker 2: Togs had been good news on the Economy Institute of

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Speaker 2: Change Research Institute, Adrian Macy is back with us. Adrian,

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Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 10: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: Is this still useful a cop?

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Speaker 10: In a word?

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Speaker 2: No, I think the worst was sticking a number next

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Speaker 12: Well, we have had it has been a necessary negotiation.

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Speaker 12: It's pretty good, it looks pretty robust. This last COP

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Speaker 12: ahead and sail. This year was interesting because it's so

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Speaker 12: So yeah, I didn't take much much notice as it

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Speaker 10: But it's still not.

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Speaker 12: You know, it's still not a it's doing nothing. It

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you raised that carbon market thing because I

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Speaker 2: Does it work? Will it work?

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Speaker 10: It's how the yes?

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Speaker 12: You might have heard of the under the Character Protocol,

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Speaker 12: You can save submissions for the planet and you can

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Speaker 12: there is another provision they've also finalized, which is if

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Speaker 12: So yep, that's it's useful to have that, but it's

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Speaker 12: It isn't a game changer in the actual reduction of emissions.

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Speaker 12: It's been asked for by just one group of countries

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Speaker 2: Good talk to you, Adrian, appreciate it very much. Good

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Speaker 2: insight as almost Adriaan Macy, agent and professor at the

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Climate Change Research Institute. It's a good bit

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Speaker 2: Our carbon market's complete bust because no one turns up

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Speaker 2: There are four auctions a year. No one buys anything

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Speaker 2: Auction four and US bought anythings. So I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: really it's going to solve anything. Eight ten minutes away

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Speaker 2: a lot of time crying that woman. Anyway, she's been

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: There were a couple of others in the mix of

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Speaker 15: the weekend, but the President elect has now rolled out

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Speaker 15: the last of his florry of cabinet picks with casting

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Speaker 15: presenters Straight off the Airwaves. Mike Khuckabee chosen for Ambassador

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Speaker 15: to Israel, had a six year contract hosting a Fox

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Speaker 15: News show. Tulsey Gabbard filled in for former Fox host

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Speaker 15: Tucker Culson from elsewhere in the entertainment world, Doctor Oz

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Speaker 15: hosted his TV Doctor Show for many years. Now is

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Speaker 15: chosen to oversee Medicare for seniors and Medicaid for the

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Speaker 15: poor on TV. He was often accused of promoting quack

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Speaker 15: medical treatments when COVID hit. He espoures the use of

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Speaker 15: chosen as Education Secretary, so a lot of cable news

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Speaker 15: regulars and entertainment folks. Pam Bondi was chosen quickly for

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Speaker 15: Attorney General after the Matt Gates nomination dissolved, amid that

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Speaker 15: flew of sexual abuse claims. This means that if they

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Speaker 15: Department will all be people who work for Trump's legal

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Speaker 15: defense in the many criminal cases he was facing until

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Speaker 15: also defended Trump during his first impeachment trial. During the

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Speaker 15: first Trump convention, when the crowd chanted lock her up,

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Speaker 15: referring to Hillary Clinton, she said, yeah, lock her up.

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Speaker 15: I love that quote unquote, And now she says, of

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Speaker 15: the Justice Department.

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Speaker 5: Prosecutors will be prosecuted the bad ones. The investigators will

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Speaker 15: So she is speaking there of the retiring January the

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Speaker 15: sixth prosecutor, Jack Smith, I guess and his aides, while

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Speaker 15: Trump nominee John Sower is the lawyer who argued the

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Speaker 15: immunity case for Trump before the US Supreme Court. Another

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Speaker 15: recent pick is Sebastian Gorka, another Fox News regular who

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Speaker 15: has chosen to be Deputy Assistant to the President. His

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Speaker 15: advice on the Justice Department is this part of my.

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Speaker 10: Department, you to identify the two worst criminals.

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Speaker 1: You arrest them, and you purp walk them out of

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Speaker 1: the building in tracles, like they did to Peter Navarro

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Speaker 1: in front of the CNN cameras and they stand trial.

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Speaker 15: So an enemy's list. Also during the election campaign, Trump

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Speaker 15: said he had no connection with what is known as

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Speaker 15: Project twenty twenty five, which calls for entire federal bureaucracy

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Speaker 15: to be placed under the president's control. It says many

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Speaker 15: government workers should be exchanged for political appointees. Trump said

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Speaker 14: What the hell is.

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Speaker 10: It's Project twenty five.

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Speaker 16: He's involved in project.

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Speaker 17: And then they read some of.

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Speaker 2: The things that they are extreme.

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Speaker 10: I mean they're seriously extreme.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what project, what D twenty five is,

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Speaker 2: I've never read it. And then other will.

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Speaker 15: But now Trump has chosen the co author of the

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Speaker 15: nine hundred page Project twenty twenty five plan, Russell Vott,

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Speaker 15: to lead the Office of Management and Budget. Trump also

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Speaker 15: is running his transition team on secret money. We find

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Speaker 15: in a sharp break from tradition, he refused to sign

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Speaker 15: an agreement to limit fundraising in return for federal funds.

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Speaker 15: Trump is the first American president to do that. Meantime,

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Speaker 15: the richest man on Earth, Elon Musk, still is hanging

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Speaker 15: about Trump and Mara Lago, and he just posted a

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Speaker 15: meme on his ex or Twitter platform, joking about buying

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Speaker 15: the left leaning cable news network MSNBC, which is about

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Speaker 15: to be spun off by Comcast. Here, the Musk meme

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Speaker 15: shows a caricature of a priest looking luridly at at

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Speaker 15: a woman with a caption lead us not into temptation

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Speaker 15: as the priest looks at a woman's rear with a

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Speaker 15: caption elon Musk trying not to buy, and MSNBC is

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Speaker 15: tattooed on who rear?

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Speaker 2: Right house? Where are we at?

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: This is ongoing, man, pretty interesting. We've heard all of

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Speaker 15: the talk about the Trump mandate, of course, and so

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Speaker 15: called landslides. Late as tally shows the Maggot team winning

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Speaker 15: about forty nine point nine percent, so under fifty percent.

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Speaker 15: That means his margin over Harris was about one point

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Speaker 15: six percentage points, which is the third smaller since eighteen

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Speaker 15: eighty eight. Also, the final count still is ongoing for

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Speaker 15: the House of Reps, and Matt Gates demiers could cut

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Speaker 15: into the Magat team's house numbers. The present tally shows

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Speaker 15: Republicans with two hundred nineteen seats in the dams two

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Speaker 15: hundred and thirteen, but those numbers do not take into

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Speaker 15: account the Matt Gates departure. It will take at least

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Speaker 15: three months for replacement election for Gates. Also, there are

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Speaker 15: three outstanding House races yet to be called, so that

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Speaker 15: as well will eat into the size of the Republican majority,

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Speaker 15: which makes things pretty interesting politically.

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Speaker 2: I reckon see Wednesday Richindnald's site side Gates by the way,

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Speaker 2: could had taken his seat back once he pinged himself

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Speaker 2: out of contention. CNN clearly had something. It all unfolowed

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Speaker 2: really rapidly on Friday afternoon. CNN clearly had something about

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Speaker 2: another person making a series of claims. He quit. He

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Speaker 2: could have gone back to a seat. He's chosen not to.

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Speaker 2: I suspect for reasons that will become clear in time.

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Speaker 2: So as Richard said, they've got they're going to have

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Speaker 2: a boat to sort that one out. Nine minutes away

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Speaker 2: from seven, the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover Thelaine News Talks

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Speaker 1: Dead be one.

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Speaker 2: A bit of reading I did over the weekend of

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Speaker 2: the Chinese and the level of spying in the American

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Speaker 2: system most serious in history. As the headline the breach

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Speaker 2: of the innermost workings of the US telecommunications system far

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Speaker 2: deeper than the Biden administration described. A new Senate Intelligence

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Speaker 2: Committee hack is able to listen in on telephone conversations

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Speaker 2: and read text messages. The barn door is still wide

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Speaker 2: open or mostly open. Stunned there were not mine. Stunned

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Speaker 2: by the scope and depth of the breach engineered over

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Speaker 2: the past year by a group link of the Chinese

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Speaker 2: intel diligence that's been named Salt Typhoon by Microsoft. They're

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Speaker 2: the ones who discovered the hack. The government officials have

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Speaker 2: been struggling to understand what China's actually got. At first,

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Speaker 2: they thought the hackers you stolen passwords to focus mostly

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Speaker 2: on the system that taps telephone conversations and text under

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Speaker 2: court orders. But in the last couple of days, investigators

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Speaker 2: have discovered how deeply China's hackers have moved throughout the

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Speaker 2: country by exploiting aging equipment and seams in the networks

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Speaker 2: connecting the disparate systems. So technologically, as I'm sure you're

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Speaker 2: well aware, America's a basket case and that's where you

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Speaker 2: get to the general roading infrastructure, et cetera. The Chinese

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Speaker 2: are in, They're in and away. They had no idea

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Speaker 2: how deeply, So that'll be a consternation to the new

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Speaker 2: administration five away from seven.

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Speaker 1: All the ins and the outs. It's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: So Wicked and Gladiator too have been opening over the

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Speaker 2: weekend to end the States. They look like they might

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Speaker 2: be okay. Wicked brought in nineteen million from Advance Screening's

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Speaker 2: last week, Gladiator six and a half. That's ahead of

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Speaker 2: their opening weekend, which on as I say right now,

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Speaker 2: so it's coming up to Thanksgiving, big time, key movie period,

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Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. So the projections are that

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Speaker 2: Wicked is going to earn somewhere between one twenty and

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Speaker 2: one forty on opening weekend. We'll probably have those numbers

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Speaker 2: for you tomorrow, if not the next day. Gladiator two

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Speaker 2: sixty to eighty. So Wicked's huge, Gladiator two not so much.

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Speaker 2: That's just domestically, by the way, in the US. So

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Speaker 2: how does that compare with the first time that we

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Speaker 2: got two movies together and turn them into a thing.

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Speaker 2: Barbie and Oppenheimer or what was it called off in

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Speaker 2: Barbie or Barbieheimer whatever it was two hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: two combined in the opening weekend. So that's how we

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Speaker 2: compare it. So two forty two if they think one

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Speaker 2: forty and eighty two, oh, it's going to be short,

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Speaker 2: and that it's going to be short anyway, Wicked's almost

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Speaker 2: certain to break the highest opening weekend for a Broadway adaptation,

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Speaker 2: biggest in movie history. So also wiki eightor wiki etor

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Speaker 2: very good. They've got Mowana two coming as well for Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 2: so that could be that could be good news. Right

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Speaker 2: now after seven o'clock, what can I tell you? I

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Speaker 2: when they're about sixteen years old ago, Oh, this is

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Speaker 2: so boring.

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Speaker 10: Let me lead.

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Speaker 2: Have you got level three? No, you've got university entrants?

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Speaker 2: Know why would I need that? Are not going to university?

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Speaker 2: What are you going to do?

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Speaker 13: Oh?

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Speaker 2: And that's how it works. Unfortunately, more and more young

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Speaker 2: people are ending up leading school without the qualifications required

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Speaker 2: for the modern world. The good news, if you want

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Speaker 2: some good news, is they're not vaping as much. So

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Speaker 2: they may not have a career or a life, but

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Speaker 2: at least they're not vaping. So can we lift ourselves

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Speaker 2: up with that bit of information. Then we've got the

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Speaker 2: sport for you after eight news though it's next to

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Speaker 2: your news.

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Speaker 1: Talks, the newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk to,

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven. So the damage that COVID did, as

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Speaker 2: we've said many, many, many times on this program, is

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Speaker 2: turning out to be far greater than many imagined. And

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Speaker 2: it education new numbers last year one point one in

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Speaker 2: four twenty five percent of course, school leaders are left

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Speaker 2: without level three or university entrants. Prior to COVID, those

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Speaker 2: figures were in fact rives in terms of achievement, but

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Speaker 2: it's been downhill ever since. Education Hub founder doctor Nina

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Speaker 2: hoodsback with us Enina, good morning to you.

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Speaker 18: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming this is a surprise to nobody in education.

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Speaker 19: No, I think a lot of us were anticipating something

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Speaker 19: similar to this happening.

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Speaker 10: So what is it?

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Speaker 2: Behavior related? Is it how they teach, what they teach?

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Speaker 2: What's happened?

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Speaker 19: I think it's a whole combination of factors. One of

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Speaker 19: them is that during the COVID lockdowns, children were missing

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Speaker 19: out on a lot of schooling. They didn't have as

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Speaker 19: much teaching as they previously would have done, and the

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Speaker 19: result of that is that they didn't build all of

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Speaker 19: the foundational knowledge and skills that they needed. Those students

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Speaker 19: are now coming through and sitting their Level two Level

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Speaker 19: three INCA exam, and the result of that lower level

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Speaker 19: of teaching not having so much time in the classroom

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Speaker 19: is having an impact. I think there are probably a

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Speaker 19: few other things going on as well. We do have

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Speaker 19: anecdotal data of students showing no levels of motivation, and

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Speaker 19: of course we also know that there's a higher proportion

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Speaker 19: of young people leaving school before the age of seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Is there good news that if this is the COVID cohort,

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Speaker 2: then the non COVID cohort are either people who start

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Speaker 2: school after COVID no no different. In other words, they're

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Speaker 2: back to normal schooling will be fine.

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Speaker 19: That would be an optimistic view. But if we think

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Speaker 19: about the impact of COVID, right that's going to have

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Speaker 19: that's long term, that's a decade to words, because you know,

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Speaker 19: we still have children who started school even at the

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Speaker 19: age of five, who didn't necessarily get all that foundational

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Speaker 19: teaching when they were in their first couple of years

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Speaker 19: at school, so there's still ground to make up for

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Speaker 19: those children as well coming through the system.

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Speaker 2: Are we outlies and in the Western world, the OECD world,

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Speaker 2: is everybody doing the same thing? Or are we different?

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Speaker 17: We're not different.

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Speaker 19: There's definitely evidence coming out from countries such as America,

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Speaker 19: from England that are showing very similar statistics as well

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Speaker 19: of this decline in academic achievements.

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Speaker 2: See because here's the problem. When you leave at seventeen

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Speaker 2: and you haven't got Level three and you haven't got

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Speaker 2: university entrance and you're stumbling and bumbling around in life,

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Speaker 2: that's you done? Sure of you waking up one day

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Speaker 2: and going, well, I'll go train is something rather than

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Speaker 2: what happens to you nothing. I mean, now, I's going

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Speaker 2: to fix it the systems. I mean, you're out of

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Speaker 2: the system. It's gone. You got, aren't you? You aren't

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Speaker 2: in your own you are And that's.

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Speaker 19: Kind of the reasons why we need to make sure

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Speaker 19: that we get what technic in school's absolutely right, because

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Speaker 19: you know, once children do press out of young peoplegress

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Speaker 19: out of the school system, we have far fewer leaders

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Speaker 19: to be able to pull in order to be up

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Speaker 19: to bring them back into education, back into training. So

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Speaker 19: we really need to make sure that we're getting it

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Speaker 19: right before they leave school.

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Speaker 2: Right, Nina, appreciate your time as a West doctor. Nina Hood.

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Speaker 2: The Education Hub found a ten minutes past seven Life

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Speaker 2: of Matter is also at school youth vapings on a

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Speaker 2: downward trend. Apparently the latest stat come from the asthmir

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Speaker 2: and Respiratory Foundation research. So the numbers of teenagers who

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Speaker 2: voked weekly has gone down fifty percent in three years. So,

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Speaker 2: in other words, it's stropped from twenty seven percent to twelve.

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Speaker 2: Apparently Headmaster of Auckland Graham and Tim O'Connor's with us. Tim,

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you morning. What do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: That's true?

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Speaker 11: Our experience has dropped off out of the world. Actually,

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Speaker 11: oh well, but it's touch wood on that because anything

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Speaker 11: could tain in our school environment any day.

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Speaker 2: Good and so what have you done? Crack down?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, look right from the oset.

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Speaker 11: I mean you heard me bleeding on about this over several.

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Speaker 10: Years, and.

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Speaker 11: Our response has been to issue some pretty high level consequences.

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Speaker 11: So stand down immediately, parents and go home and then

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Speaker 11: go through a counseling process.

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Speaker 2: Good do you reckon? You've solved the problem to the extent.

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Speaker 2: There was some numbers out last week from the Health

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Speaker 2: Ministry that said vapings up, vapings replaced smoking. So if

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Speaker 2: you crack it at school, that they may be not

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Speaker 2: go on to it in later life.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think so. I still think something that needs

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Speaker 11: to be done about these, you know, the real excess

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Speaker 11: of vapes, these vape stores that look like they're you know,

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Speaker 11: selling iPhone iPhones to teenagers is still differently an attraction

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Speaker 11: or a direct marketing to teenagers. And my view is that,

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Speaker 11: you know, if I can get them hooked at that

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Speaker 11: point in time, and then they'll carry on through adult life.

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Speaker 11: And they are the ones who are still vaping that

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Speaker 11: we're seeing right well, right now are those who are

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Speaker 11: you first, second, third year university students who are addicted.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. I don't know if you heard Nina a

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Speaker 2: moment ago on the level three in the NCA and

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Speaker 2: the numbers leaving school a you seeing that at your school?

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Speaker 2: Too many kids sixteen seventeen leaving without proper qualifications or

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Speaker 2: they no.

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Speaker 13: No, but you don't start me on that.

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Speaker 11: I mean, we're probably an outlier of education now because

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Speaker 11: we're still sort of three sets of internal exams a

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Speaker 11: year from the time they start at age thirteen. Get

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Speaker 11: them into a system where actually they know what a

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Speaker 11: little bit of stress is, they know what that learning

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Speaker 11: is difficult, and actually that they can succeed if they

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Speaker 11: continue to practice. Just like anything, and we have we've

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Speaker 11: we've lost, we've lost plot intent of just discouraging students

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Speaker 11: a credit count. Then of course they're going to count

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Speaker 11: their credits and they're going to either get what they

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Speaker 11: need and switch off and stop learning, or they just

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Speaker 11: give up because it's all just a little bit too tough.

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Speaker 2: Right, So the answer is you've got the answer. If

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Speaker 2: other people want to learn, it is there to be had.

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Speaker 2: So we don't need to give up.

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Speaker 11: Oh not at all. I think what we see when

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Speaker 11: we put the right educational systems in place is that

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Speaker 11: we motivate students to actually learn and they understand what

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Speaker 11: they what what a difference it is they can. They're

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Speaker 11: coming through to us without a lot of experience, sorry,

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Speaker 11: a lot of success with learning and basics, reading, writing, maths,

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Speaker 11: and we need to change that for a start.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Tim, appreciate your inside as always. Tim O'Connor

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Speaker 2: Auckland Grammar headmasters the go there's something uplifting, so they

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Speaker 2: come into the school underqualified, and of course the universities

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Speaker 2: will tell you they go into the universities underqualified as well.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen minutes past seven, Paski Mike not. There's quite a

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Speaker 2: lot of this this morning, as you can imagine, is

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Speaker 2: there not a code of conduct for those all blacks

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Speaker 2: such as not entering the political field just throw the ball?

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Speaker 2: Well know, there's not, as we found out over the

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Speaker 2: weekend because everybody knew it was going to happen. More

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Speaker 2: shortly fourteen past the.

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Speaker 1: Mike asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 2: That'd be Mike, what a breath of fresher. Tim O'Connor

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Speaker 2: as please clone them. Well, we can't cline them. It's

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Speaker 2: not very easy, but every time we have them on

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Speaker 2: the program, we get some of the feedback which does

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Speaker 2: remind us that all is not lost. So what have

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Speaker 2: we got? Sixteen past seven t J Pireanara got the

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Speaker 2: headlines on the Harker connection to last week's protest, of course,

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Speaker 2: had the backing of the team management and officials. Marie

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Speaker 2: All Blacks Cultural Advisor to where he writes is with

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Speaker 2: us good morning to you, good morning. You're getting into

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Speaker 2: tricky territory here. Are you completely comfortable with us?

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Speaker 19: Now?

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Speaker 18: I'm completely comfortable with I think it's on the surface

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Speaker 18: it seems tricky, but I think there's a real good

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Speaker 18: story of unity here. So on bad to share.

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Speaker 2: When you say unity, unity for who, I think, well.

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Speaker 18: It's it's probably it's a good Christian start. I think

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Speaker 18: unity for an under there's a ground. So I think

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Speaker 18: of emerging communities, both Maori and non Maori, that are

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Speaker 18: really working hard to try and showcase. I think the

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Speaker 18: beautiful country that's truly reflective of our unique cultural identity,

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Speaker 18: which is no longer exclusively Maldy, but it is uniquely

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Speaker 18: So I think that's what I'm I'm talking about when

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Speaker 18: I refer to unity.

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Speaker 2: So is that the role of an all black ahead

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Speaker 2: of a Test match or not.

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Speaker 18: I think it's a responsibility for all citizens of aldad

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Speaker 18: Wall to keep pushing where they can. That notion of unity,

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Speaker 18: I mean, context is always going to be debated, I think,

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Speaker 18: and the appropriateness I think of any political stance or

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Speaker 18: any stance in particular, regardless of the stage. But I

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Speaker 18: do think there is still a huge responsibility on us

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Speaker 18: as citizens of New Zealand to keep pushing where we

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Speaker 18: can that notion of unity.

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Speaker 2: But when you say unity Tenoring and Terri Tung, it

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Speaker 2: is self determination, which is not unity. It's your own

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Speaker 2: course and way, isn't it.

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Speaker 18: I think if you're bring into the individualistic perception of

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Speaker 18: it comes to the Treaty Principles Bill, I mean it

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Speaker 18: can be easily read like that, but I think has

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Speaker 18: to be seen in the context of the collective. And

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Speaker 18: I think when we're moving into that kind of notion,

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Speaker 18: we're saying it's almost as if you're saying it's either

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Speaker 18: unity or to tang, as if they can't sit together.

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Speaker 18: And I think that's probably where the context of the

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Speaker 18: stand becomes really important, because it's about showcasing the beauty

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Speaker 18: of both of all the cultures, but particularly the two

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Speaker 18: main parties. To tidate your white and how we connect

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Speaker 18: you work together to shape unity residing in marii as

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Speaker 18: a collective approach to determination, but also we can still

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Speaker 18: exist together and how many and are right.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you Tim very much to where he right,

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Speaker 2: Who's lawyer consultant Murray all Black circultural advisor. But of

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Speaker 2: course when we talk about that, as we did, and

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Speaker 2: I'm more than happy to talk about it, we're not

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Speaker 2: talking about the game, And in that I think Lie

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Speaker 2: how far back, small clue? Not far do we need

871
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: to go to think that this sort of extracurricular activity

872
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: would never have been even close to being continance by

873
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 2: an all black squad not long ago. Essentially sport was sport.

874
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: It got political in the spring Bok apartheid era, of course,

875
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: but that I thought, I thought to myself yesterday that

876
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: was sort of politics from the outside in, wasn't it

877
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: not the other way round? It was Peranara's last time

878
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: in a Jersey why not leave with a message? I

879
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: think that would be the argument for many. But what

880
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 2: sort of message was it? If one of the blokes

881
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 2: from I don't know, rural New Zealand decided to slip

882
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 2: in some support in the postmatch interview for the current

883
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 2: gun reform or the gang patch laws, how do you

884
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: think that would have gone down? A David Seymour, who

885
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: quite sensibly asked in response to the peran Aura reviews,

886
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: just what bit of equal rights do you not support?

887
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: Is kind of on a hiding to nothing. We eve

888
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: entrenched camps on this one, don't we. No one's in

889
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: the middle. You either believe in the idea that we're

890
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: all equal or you don't. Perhaps more worryingly, Peranara's performance

891
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: was spoken about with management and supported by them, so

892
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: i'man credit to him. It wasn't some mad spur of

893
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: the moment outburst. And for the record, when he says

894
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: it's important to him. I don't think anyone doubts that.

895
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: But lots of things are important to lots of people.

896
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: But within all our lives and all our constraints, and

897
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: one of the constraints around being an all black is

898
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: you represent the country as an elite athlete, not a

899
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: politician or an activist. As we saw in a much

900
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: lesser way a couple of weeks back, the woman who

901
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: may well end up hitting the content and news department

902
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 2: for the state owned television station took leave to go

903
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 2: on the Treaty protest. Quite rightly, many asked whether that

904
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: was wise. We can ask the same question of Peranara,

905
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 2: and given we had all the all black management blessing

906
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: as well, we can ask that question of them as well.

907
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: I would have thought if the criteria for protest as

908
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: an all black is passion, then we're asking for trouble.

909
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: What we want in all blacks are sports people of integrity, professionalism,

910
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: and preferably inability to win a lot. The rest of

911
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: it risks damaging the brand, insulting fans, and distracting us

912
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: from the main point of the arting Pasky, and so

913
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 2: it goes looks to me like the All Blacks are

914
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: picking a side. Mike anyway, disgusted with that Harker. I

915
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: was losing interest anyway, but now they're turning political. Not interested, Mike.

916
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: The All Blacks have damaged themselves with this wading into politics.

917
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: Robertson seemingly endorsed this.

918
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 10: Mike.

919
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: This country has never been more divided and will never

920
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: be united. I don't know that's technically true, but we're

921
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: pretty divisive at the moment. I take that on board, Mike.

922
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: Are the AB's now registering as a political party? Mike,

923
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 2: If is there ever a reason, if there was ever

924
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 2: a reason to get rid of the all Black Harker

925
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: last weekend's displays enough, Mike posing with the Maori flag

926
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: is not unity, no politics in sport, and so it

927
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: goes Powell. Let me talk to you briefly about that,

928
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: because this didn't get the sort of coverage it deserved.

929
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: So Tahara or Taharda, there's a massive geothermal station that

930
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: got opened in Friday at a total capacity of one

931
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy four megawats. This goes back to my

932
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: ongoing theme, and I'll come back to data centers in

933
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: a moment, because I read a very interesting piece about

934
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: data since is over the weekend. Are they've got all

935
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: sorts of problems with data centers. Nuclear is not one

936
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 2: of them. Land is. The data centers internationally now are

937
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 2: becoming so large, you know, physically so large, they're running

938
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: out of land. So we have quite openly said that

939
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: we want to be a data center host. My question

940
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: is how we're going to power it up, because all

941
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: the articles are telling me that that renewables aren't going

942
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: to come even close. So nuclear is partly the answer,

943
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: or many would argue gas is partly the answer, which

944
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 2: is where Tahara comes in. So this was opened. It's

945
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: a garganta, it's a monolith. It's huge, so one hundred

946
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: and seventy four megawatts, it's run late, and it's a

947
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: mile over budget. It costs a billion dollars. Now, for

948
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: a billion dollars, this thing is now going to power

949
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 2: three percent of New Zealand's electricity needs. So you do

950
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: the math during the news. One billion dollars for three percent,

951
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,959
Speaker 2: So one billion times thirty three, thirty four to thirty five.

952
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 2: There's your number. And that's why renewables are an ongoing problem.

953
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 2: Do we have that sort of money.

954
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 10: No, we do not.

955
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: News is next here at News Talk, ZEDB.

956
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show You Can Trust, the mic asking Breakfast

957
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: with the range Rover, the la designed to intrigue and

958
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: use togsdad b.

959
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: Here in general is the view on Peranara Morning. Mike

960
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: Peranara was on an international stage representing all the country

961
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 2: was heat. Yeses he was. I sure got that wrong.

962
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: Pure self indulgence. Brought the All Blacks and the Harker

963
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: as a pre match theaterd discussed as he was permitted

964
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: to do this well, he asked, So that's his defense

965
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 2: and he was supported by top down. So that's where

966
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: they're at at the moment. But it was an unfortunately

967
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: into the whole business, and I thought it felt sorry

968
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: for Sam Kaine, of course, who seemed to be one

969
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: of the most underrated performers of all time, sort of

970
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 2: became he went. He didn't sort of get the headlines

971
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: for doing anything untoward. He just left the field. And

972
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: that's Sam Kaine. Thanks for coming twenty three minutes away

973
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: from it. So there will be more that after eight

974
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: of the lads in the commentary box. Of course, now

975
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: our lack of security around regional flying has once again

976
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: been raised as particual issue, so police and simply aviation

977
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: as in the Authority of God. Issues around lack of

978
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: screen now the concerns around transportation of drugs at this time.

979
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: Former police Detective Inspector Lance Badet is with this Lance,

980
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: very good morning to you. I'm well, thank you. I

981
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: don't know why we're worried about this now if we

982
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: haven't been worried about it for the last twenty or

983
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: thirty years. I mean, anyone who's ever flying from you know,

984
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: fung array of fung arrays knows that there's no screening.

985
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: You can take on board anything you want.

986
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 20: Yeah, so any flights that are under ninety passengers that

987
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 20: doesn't require squinting. And I've always found it to.

988
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 10: Be a little bit unusual.

989
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 20: I mean, it's nice not having it because you can

990
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 20: just get throight on the plane when you're traveling a lot.

991
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 20: But yeah, it just concerns me. I mean I thought

992
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 20: PEPs it was to do worth the fuel or PEPs

993
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 20: the hijacking and the plane or whatever. But it makes

994
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 20: no real sense. We either have security or we don't.

995
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 2: Correct So I could have three pounds of what in

996
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: my bag and no one's looking, no one's questioning, no nothing.

997
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the easiest transportation method going. Would gangs

998
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: use this or not?

999
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 10: Well? Absolutely.

1000
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 20: The reason why then to use it is because they

1001
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 20: don't need to use a vehicle. When they start to

1002
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 20: use vehicles or rental cars, there's a registration number, there's

1003
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 20: a high chance of being caught by police, et cetera,

1004
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 20: et cetera. So when they're able to do this, I

1005
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 20: mean they can't even do it by their own vehicle

1006
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 20: or a vehicle going across through you know, a fury ride.

1007
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 20: So a plane is just a wonderful way of doing it.

1008
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 20: But it's not the only way. There's there's traveling on buses,

1009
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 20: There's all sorts of other ways they come up with.

1010
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 20: There's customized career companies that do customize pick up and delivery.

1011
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 20: So there are ways that they will always find. But

1012
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 20: this one is quite a big anomaly that's pretty easily fixed.

1013
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: If you started screening all flights in this country as

1014
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: of tomorrow in this ere, what do you reckon you'd find?

1015
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 20: I would you'd find all sorts of things. I would

1016
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 20: suggest it will slow things down absolutely. However, it's going

1017
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 20: to make it safer for everybody to travel. That's the

1018
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 20: big thing about this, And isn't that what we've got

1019
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 20: avas and security for so that everyone flying is safer.

1020
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have thought so nice to talk to

1021
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: you again lunch lunch, But at who's the former police

1022
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: detective inspector?

1023
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 13: Of course?

1024
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: Twenty minutes away from its quickly back to these data centers,

1025
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: the camps they call them campuses, So you set up

1026
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: on the data center. Campus could grow so large that

1027
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: finding enough power and suitable land to accommodate them becomes

1028
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: increasingly difficult. Renewable energy alone won't be sufficient. This is

1029
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: what I'm reading over the weekend. Renewable energy alone will

1030
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: not be sufficient. Natural gas will play a role, hence

1031
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 2: the big field I told you about before the news

1032
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: that will slow progress towards meeting carbon dioxide emissions. Of course,

1033
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 2: because the more of anything you used from the earth

1034
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: is not good for the people who go up to

1035
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: COP twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty thirty one and thirty two.

1036
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 2: Companies are in a raceable lifetime for global dominance and AI.

1037
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 2: It's frankly about national security and economic security. Data centers

1038
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 2: are out to scale where they have started tapping out

1039
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: against the existing utility infrastructure. The funnel of available land

1040
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 2: in this country that's industrialized, specifically for industrialized zoning that

1041
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 2: can fit a data center use is becoming more and

1042
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: more constraints. So we're going to have problems. They're already

1043
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: having problems in America, so it's going to be fascinating

1044
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 2: to see how it unfolds. But if we're going to

1045
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: insist that we can't be nuclear, that we're going to

1046
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 2: be doing it through wind and sun, I think we've

1047
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: got a root a weakening coming. Nineteen two, The.

1048
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,560
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1049
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:37,200
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1050
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: Talks that be here comes the pushback. Money beats everything, Apparently, Mike,

1051
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: adding security at regional airports will likely add at least

1052
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: fifty dollars to every airfare. Is that what the majority want?

1053
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 2: Will clearly not, Mike. I'm flying to New Plymouth in

1054
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks on a prop taking a carry

1055
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: on bag. Only the gift is a bottle of malt whisky,

1056
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 2: which I wouldn't get on if I was a jet

1057
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 2: on a jet, Mike, so don't worry about the possibility

1058
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 2: of hijackings and crime and drugs, as long as it's

1059
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: cheap and you can take your whiskey on board. Mike,

1060
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 2: please don't let these wowsers ruin a low stress travel option.

1061
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 2: Region to region screening is a zoo. Now, EVS, when

1062
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 2: do you want to call it? I'm calling it in

1063
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 2: the next handful of years. But this is what's happened

1064
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,479
Speaker 2: in the last three or four days around the world.

1065
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 2: So Nissan, we reported on the program last week. They're

1066
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: laying off people in Europe left right and center, forder,

1067
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 2: laying off people in Europe left right and center. And

1068
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: it's all to do with EV's. Nobody's buying EV. So

1069
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: this and got in the ear of the UK government,

1070
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: not that I think that that's going to make a

1071
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: jot of difference, but basically they're saying it risks undermining

1072
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: the business case for manufacturing cars in the UK, viability

1073
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 2: of thousands of jobs, billions of pounds worth of investment.

1074
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 2: So and listen, they're looking to pull the trigger and

1075
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: pull out of the UK if the government is insisting

1076
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: on getting rid of petrol powered engines by a car.

1077
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 2: I think it's twenty thirty five. It was twenty thirty,

1078
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 2: they pushed it back out to twenty thirty five. Lotus

1079
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: also was once a British brand. Of course, now it's Chinese.

1080
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: Be interesting to know how the Chinese are viewing this,

1081
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 2: because Lotus is owned by Gil and they're busy making

1082
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: electric cars in China like this no tomorrow, and yet

1083
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 2: one of their offshoots in Britain, Lotus can't sell a

1084
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: Lotus for lovenal money that's electric. So Lotus announced last

1085
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: week that they're scrapping their plan to go electric by

1086
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight. They're now investing in hybrid technology. The

1087
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: plugin seems to be the way of the future, so

1088
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: either a hybrid non plugin or a hybrid plugin that

1089
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: seems to be the sweet spot between now and wherever. Anyway,

1090
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 2: there's no word on what they're going to do because

1091
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,479
Speaker 2: they've got a couple of cars out there now which

1092
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: are all electric, and nobody seems to know whether those

1093
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: cars can be retrofitted with a plugin. So in other words,

1094
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 2: if you've gone and bought an EV from Lotus, it

1095
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: might well be too lately stuck with it. Then BMW,

1096
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: the global head of BMW, you said the ban on

1097
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 2: new petrol and diesel car sales was quote unquote a

1098
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: big mistake, oliver zispears his name, a misstep threatening the

1099
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: livelihoods of thousands of workers. The law could harve the

1100
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 2: size of Europe's automotive industry. So you're talking about thousands

1101
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: and thousands of families. And this is where it gets political.

1102
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 2: Of course, if you look at a place like Germany

1103
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: at the moment where the government has collapsed and the

1104
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: economy is going backwards, and what are they manufacture in

1105
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 2: Germany by quite a lot of cars. So you're going

1106
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 2: into the car industry and you're saying, already economy is

1107
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 2: buggered and the government's collapsed, and by the way, we'll

1108
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: just lay off a few more thousand who are making

1109
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: these petrol engines, these diesel engines, and will replace them

1110
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: all with EV's that nobody wants to buy. So how

1111
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: long before a government who thinks like that's going to

1112
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: get booted out of power as well? So that's just

1113
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: in the last week. BMW, Lotus and Nissen. All of

1114
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 2: it's centered around Europe. All of it predicated on the

1115
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: belief that somehow, in a handful of years, the whole

1116
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 2: world is going to be so fascinated by evs they'll

1117
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: want nothing else in their lives. It's a joke. It's

1118
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: coming to an end faster than you think. Thirteen away from.

1119
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: Eight, all the my costing breakfast. It's with belies resting

1120
00:52:58,719 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: us dogs.

1121
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: V the compromise. Screening should be random aviation security staff

1122
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 2: randomly pick people the screen. It's so ridiculous queuing up

1123
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 2: for half an hour. You have a flowing in America, America,

1124
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: just have a random check ten minutes away from it.

1125
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: So also speaking of America, Vegas over the week and

1126
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 2: apart from the f one was Synthony. This is the

1127
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 2: orchestra which reimagined some of the big dance hits and

1128
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 2: they play and as a singer and that's it seems

1129
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 2: to be. It came out of New Zealand, so David

1130
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: Higgins thing, and it seems to be taking off globally anyway.

1131
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 2: Eline Kidron is a singer songwriter, teamed up with Synthony

1132
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 2: over the weekend. He's with us from Vegas morning.

1133
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 17: To you good a from Vegas?

1134
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: Did did did what went on? Stay in Vegas? Was

1135
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 2: it good?

1136
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 17: I'm not going to tell you all the details. You

1137
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 17: know we're in Vegas, but it was unbelievable yet Now,

1138
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 17: the F one was incredible. The performance was, you know,

1139
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 17: heroic on everyone's part. But you know, we've got an

1140
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 17: orchestra over here, and there were a few singers and

1141
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 17: an incredible conductor and yeah, we played for everyone here.

1142
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: Literally where were you and how many turned up?

1143
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 13: Oh?

1144
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 17: I mean we were in front of about twenty thirty

1145
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 17: thousand people, I'm not sure, right in the grandsteads of

1146
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 17: the F one and it was uncontrollably fun mate. It

1147
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 17: was magical. I mean, just the atmosphere there is crazy

1148
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 17: because there's just so much, so much energy. It's so powerful,

1149
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 17: and I guess that's what we aim to do with

1150
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 17: the music as well. So it was a good marriage.

1151
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 17: I reckon a paper this morning, though.

1152
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 2: Oh are you really okay?

1153
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 17: It not too bad?

1154
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, being an F one fan myself,

1155
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 2: I mean it's cold, it's freezing cold there, but in

1156
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: the desert, so you would have warmed them up nicely.

1157
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 17: That's exactly right, that's well poort. Yeah, I think it

1158
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 17: did make a difference, the tires that they were using

1159
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 17: and everything. But yeah, I loved it, super exciting and

1160
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 17: congratulations to Max for winning the whole thing.

1161
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: Exactly What did you make of it when you first

1162
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: came I was watching some of the videos this morning,

1163
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: not from Vegas, but from other times. When you first

1164
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: came across this as a concept, what do you make

1165
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 2: of it?

1166
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 17: Well, they approached me because you know, I'm in a

1167
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 17: band called the Pop Bellies. We've got a few big tunes.

1168
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 17: We toured New Zealand a lot, and you know, I

1169
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 17: was very open to anything, especially when you've got the

1170
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,919
Speaker 17: power of an orchestra behind you. But when you look

1171
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 17: out at the audience and their reaction to what's going on,

1172
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 17: because it's this completely immersive, beautiful show and super super

1173
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 17: well curated, I guess like the songs that they that

1174
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 17: they choose to take everyone on a journey is you know, mesmerizing.

1175
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 13: Man.

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00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 17: People are jumping out of their socks, dancing really hard,

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00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 17: and you know, it's just it's a great experience.

1178
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 18: I don't think there's anything.

1179
00:55:58,719 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 10: Like it, do you.

1180
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: And looking at the orchestra, I always find the orchestra fascinator.

1181
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: Do you think those playing the classical instruments are sitting

1182
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 2: there going I so wish I wasn't here doing this

1183
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: because this is not proper classical music. Or do you

1184
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 2: think they're loving it?

1185
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 17: No, it's the opposite. No, they're totally loving it but

1186
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 17: getting really into it. And you know what, there are

1187
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 17: elements to it that it is proper classical music. I

1188
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 17: mean it's a faithful kind of mash up or a

1189
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 17: blend of two styles. That's the beauty of music. There's

1190
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 17: always layers, so you can look at it from one

1191
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 17: direction as a classical piece. Because the music that's been

1192
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 17: composed by a guy called Ryan Ewans on top of

1193
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 17: the electronic music which is carefully piqued by a guy

1194
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 17: called Dick Johnson. Amazing DJ. No, No, it's a good marriage.

1195
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 17: I mean, it certainly works out there, and I don't

1196
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 17: think there are any I don't think anyone would go

1197
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 17: to this show and kind of snob out, you know

1198
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 17: what I mean. Proper it's just music and it takes

1199
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 17: you on that adventure.

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00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 2: Good on you, mate, Well, I'm glad you enjoyed it

1201
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: and had a good time. And it sounds like it

1202
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 2: was funnel around. Elan Kidrin, singer songwriter and he was

1203
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 2: with Synthony in Las Vegas last night, four minutes away

1204
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 2: from a speaking lasking Mike, I see the hype around

1205
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: Lawson has died out. I mean he's serious. I see

1206
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 2: the hype around Lawson has died out from who. So

1207
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: it was an interesting weekend in the sense that I

1208
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: was just telling somebody off there. I suspect Las Vegas

1209
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 2: has signed for three races and they've just done two.

1210
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: And the difference in commentary in terms of what last

1211
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 2: year was about. Last year was the biggest thing in

1212
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: the history of the world. This year nothing close to it.

1213
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 2: It didn't sell out, The race sold out, the preview,

1214
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: the qualifying week days didn't sell out. The problem is

1215
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 2: they opened the road. And that's based on the idea

1216
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: that Vegas is so big, so important, and that if

1217
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 2: one's just another event, it's like the football, it's like

1218
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: the super Bowl, it's like the casinos. If you want

1219
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 2: to come in and you do it our way. And

1220
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 2: I would be surprised if they one don't change the

1221
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: rules around how this whole thing operates, or if they

1222
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: don't change the rules, then I would be surprised if

1223
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 2: they resign another three years, because I just don't see

1224
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: it as one of the great venues for Formula One.

1225
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 2: I know what they're trying to do, and I know

1226
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: they're trying to expand. And the really big news over

1227
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: the weekend, I don't even think it was officially announced,

1228
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: but the confirmation seemed to be that Cadillac, the American

1229
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 2: branch is suddenly going to be another entrance. The Andretti

1230
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 2: family are gone, a couple of other people high up

1231
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 2: and the if One world are gone. They seem to

1232
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: be the impediment to what they wanted to do, which

1233
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: was introducing the eleventh team. That eleventh team is going

1234
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: to be Cadillac. They will arrive in twenty twenty six,

1235
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: they'll bring an American driver. They'll make their own unit

1236
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 2: by twenty twenty eight. So the sport is on the

1237
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 2: growth path. But it just seemed to me that there's

1238
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 2: something not right about Vegas. The track is filthy. They

1239
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: open it up during the day. Gasly had to retire

1240
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: because he got rubbish in his engine. It's just got

1241
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: a really Vegas itself. During the day. Vegas looks brilliant.

1242
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: At night from an aerial shot, it looks fantastic. On

1243
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 2: the street, it looks to be filled with reprobates and

1244
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: rubbish and filth and what's all that got to do

1245
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: with Liam being about useless and everybody talking because today

1246
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 2: he's still got a couple of races to go. It

1247
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: wasn't as best outing over the weekend, but nothing really changed.

1248
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: The cub weren't competitive, is what I was trying to say.

1249
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: They weren't competitive, but it wasn't their day, it wasn't

1250
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: their track and so I don't think it's over. So

1251
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: I don't think anything material happened, but we'll we'll talk

1252
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: more about this with the lads in a couple of

1253
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: loads from the commentary box for you.

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00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:40,040
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00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:44,120
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Speaker 8: It's You're in and a year of significant change in

1259
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 8: the All Blacks come through a winning but largely begettable.

1260
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 9: Indwellington exact some sort of revenge for the last year's

1261
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 9: final defeat and.

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01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: The next move to the top of the A League ladder.

1263
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 2: And the most successful start to life as an A

1264
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 2: League club now belongs to Aufland FC. Four Games four wins.

1265
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 21: It is victory and Vegas for George Russell.

1266
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 2: He wins the Vegas Grand Prix.

1267
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 8: It's a one two former seeded at Scotland.

1268
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 20: Strong in defense to the last moments and the Wallaby's

1269
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 20: hopes of a successful brand slam.

1270
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: To the Monday Morning commentary box on the Mike Husking

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01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: Breakfast with Spears Finance supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions

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01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: for over fifty years.

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01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 2: Is that we're going to have helped morning to you.

1274
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: All right, let's try that again, Fellas, Good morning.

1275
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 9: To you years, good morning.

1276
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: Okay, we've got the virtual director media screen up popping

1277
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 2: up on our phone system. Anyway, I'm a shame I

1278
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: can't get Guy because do you know what this is?

1279
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 2: Andrew asked Guy where he finished in the golf tournament

1280
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: he played in on Friday?

1281
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 10: And was the golf tournament? Did you say where did

1282
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 10: he finish?

1283
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: Where'd you finish?

1284
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 14: Guy?

1285
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 13: Well, I was a guy was part of the winning

1286
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 13: team on Friday.

1287
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 2: Guy was referring to himself as third person.

1288
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 13: And he looked at thorough Bad Breeders Association Golf Day,

1289
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 13: part of the social racing team. We shot five under

1290
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 13: off the stick and we won.

1291
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 9: We played and so in in teams golf, don't they

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01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 9: take they dropped the worst score, it counts for nothing.

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Speaker 10: So you actually coned nothing.

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Speaker 13: No, incorrect, Andrew that there's where you're wrong. Firstly, Ambrose.

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01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 13: So you all head off the tea and then you

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01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 13: all head off the next shot, et cetera, et cetera,

1297
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 13: et cetera. You have to take four t shots from

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01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 13: each person and then the last two obviously you can

1299
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 13: be from anyone. Yeah, so yeah, makes it makes it

1300
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 13: slightly easier that you essentially get four shots four chances

1301
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 13: at the same shot. What what was the course at

1302
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 13: Clark's Beach out out south Southway?

1303
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 2: Would you describe that as a links course?

1304
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 13: Uh, semi lynxy, I suppose out out beach area. I

1305
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 13: wouldn't say it's a traditional Lynks course, but it's semi linksy.

1306
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 13: It's a really really nice course. It was in great

1307
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 13: Nick And isn't that Isn't that the cause for money?

1308
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 10: Isn't that the course with that couple photographed?

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01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 13: Is that course? Andrew? The sixteenth?

1310
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 9: Oh, so you rushed you rushed out there to see

1311
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 9: you get send.

1312
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 13: Out just to see, just to see the terrain and

1313
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 13: see what it was like.

1314
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, so this was on Friday?

1315
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 13: Was it correct?

1316
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1317
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 9: Well, for the job, the job now entails trips to

1318
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 9: the Melbourne, the odd appearance at race meetings and boozy

1319
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 9: golf dates.

1320
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 10: Is that the job these days?

1321
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 13: And it's much and it's much better than sitting next

1322
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 13: to you.

1323
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 2: Right, let's deal with Andrew, you at your first and

1324
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 2: we'll move it as quick as peranara right or wrong?

1325
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 2: Yes or no, big deal or not.

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01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 10: Look, I don't have a.

1327
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 9: Major personally, I don't have a major with it.

1328
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 10: Look. TJ.

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01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 9: Petinada has always fronted on his heritage. He's always been

1330
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 9: strong in his beliefs, whether it's on social media, where

1331
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 9: it's and interviews and Mike so often from a reporting

1332
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 9: point of view, so often we complain that these guys

1333
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 9: are robots and they say nothing. So I don't think

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01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 9: you can have it both ways. However, I think you've

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01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 9: got to draw the line somewhere at least. Apparently he

1336
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 9: went to management and the players knew about it, and

1337
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 9: the management knew about it, didn't spring it on.

1338
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 2: Yep, what's your view going?

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Speaker 13: I think that last point is fairly persinent. That he

1340
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 13: didn't just go and do it self. I'm slightly different.

1341
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 13: I think, as say said TJ. Perinada has always spoken

1342
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,479
Speaker 13: up for his beliefs, and I think on the whole

1343
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 13: or every other time, he's done it very very well,

1344
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 13: and he's done it in the right way. I'm not

1345
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Speaker 13: overly comfortable with.

1346
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 17: I'm not up in arms about it, but.

1347
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 13: I'm not sure the hucker, something that's been a tradition

1348
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 13: for over one hundred years for the All Blacks, has

1349
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 13: kind of been something that's that's globally recognized, I don't know,

1350
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 13: whatever you want to call it, a recognized thing that

1351
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 13: they do before the game. I'm not sure that's the

1352
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 13: right place for it, particularly in the day and age

1353
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 13: where players have their profiles on social media all that

1354
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 13: sort of stuff where they can put out their beliefs

1355
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 13: whatever it might be. I'm just not sure the hawk

1356
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 13: is the right place.

1357
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 2: His actions have become. But yeah, you know, his actions

1358
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 2: have become bigger than the game, and I think that's.

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01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 9: Where I think it's a shame it's taken away from,

1360
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 9: but it was always going to from. It's taken I

1361
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 9: think there's been an overreaction and personally, I don't mind it.

1362
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 9: It's taken away though, from Sam Kane's last game. It's

1363
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 9: taken away from the fact that the All Blacks had

1364
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 9: an ordinary performance.

1365
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 10: That's that's that's also key as well, do they have.

1366
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: An ordinary performance Andrew, because they're a bit bored and

1367
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: they're looking forward to coming home. And it was only

1368
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: because we are actually quite good.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 9: No, you're playing off the back of those three giant

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01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 9: weeks in London, Dublin and Paris. You've got one foot

1372
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 9: on the plane no matter what the players say. I

1373
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 9: think the back of their minds, you know, they're looking

1374
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 9: forward to the beach or the fig and break or

1375
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 9: whatever they want to do.

1376
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 10: And that and that plays.

1377
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 9: And apparently it was very very cold and very very

1378
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 9: damp and slippery dam which might have contributed to some

1379
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 9: of the drop ball in some of the ears. But

1380
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 9: I just it looked like a jaded sort of performance.

1381
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 2: It's almost like it's a winter sport, really, isn't it

1382
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 2: a little bit a little bit wet and a little

1383
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 2: bit cold. Yeah, I was disappointed. I had that vibe

1384
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 2: about it that you have sort of turned it on

1385
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 2: specifically to watch and you thought that's a shame. Where

1386
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 2: where guy to is? I mean, samkin is. Part of

1387
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 2: his problem is he's not a personality, is he? And

1388
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: I think, you know, when you look at All Black

1389
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 2: captains and you look at the you know, the obvious ones,

1390
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 2: then I just can't work out where he sits in

1391
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 2: the grand scheme of things.

1392
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Speaker 13: I think part of Sam Kaine's problem, and it's not

1393
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 13: Sam Kaine's problem, but part of how we might look

1394
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 13: back on Sam Kaine's career, or how we look back

1395
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 13: on it now, is that he had to follow straight

1396
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 13: after Richie mccaor who is as an absolute, you know,

1397
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,479
Speaker 13: our greatest, arguably our greatest All Black of all time.

1398
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 13: Sam Kaine is an excellent player, a very very good

1399
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 13: player who has played over one hundred tests for the

1400
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 13: All Blacks. You're not you're you're not a bad player.

1401
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 13: If you play over one hundred tests for the All Blacks,

1402
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 13: not many people get to do that. So I think

1403
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 13: we should look back on his career as one of

1404
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 13: the best. He's not he's not Richie mccaugh. With respect

1405
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 13: to him, he's not a Richie mccaugh, but he is

1406
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 13: an excellent All Black.

1407
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Brief break more in the moment Andrew sevill

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01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 2: Go have helped All Team past.

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Speaker 2: What's herbu on Samkin Andrew?

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01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, please ask me Mike. I think, bottom line, he's

1417
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 9: an outstanding bloke. I've always got on with him well

1418
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 9: and despite what's been said and written about him, particularly

1419
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 9: on socials after that World Cup when he was sent off,

1420
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 9: I think he was an outstanding player. You look at

1421
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 9: that Irish quarter final when the All Blacks one at

1422
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 9: the World Cup. He was amazing, outstanding defensively. He's always

1423
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 9: been more of a defensive type player. And his guy

1424
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 9: said he had to follow on for Richard mccaurt, who

1425
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 9: was on a hiding from nothing. But for me, the

1426
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 9: bottom line is always approachable, always willing to chew the fat,

1427
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:46,959
Speaker 9: and just a bloody good bloke.

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01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 2: Good tell me either of you why I was watching

1429
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 2: yesterday the Phoenix play Melbourne in Sydney in front of

1430
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 2: a crowd of no one.

1431
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 10: There's no one there.

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01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 9: I didn't realize it was in Sydney. It was it

1433
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 9: was it was hot about thirty degrees. Was that they

1434
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 9: were taking water, But that's not hot. Well when you

1435
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 9: come it's hot when you're it's hot when you're running

1436
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 9: around playing football.

1437
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: I saw the sign at the I thought, what, there's

1438
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 2: something not right here. First of all, this is a

1439
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: big stadium, because I think Melbourne played a different stadium.

1440
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 2: I think, where is this? And so it turns out

1441
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 2: at Ali ends and it's in Sydney, and I can't

1442
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 2: work out why Melbourne team in an Auckland team playing

1443
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 2: Sydney and they've surprised.

1444
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 9: Me more Kew's Maybe they thought they'd get more kiwis

1445
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 9: to And then afterwards the name.

1446
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 2: It was stupid.

1447
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,919
Speaker 13: It wasn't a part of like their equivalent.

1448
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 2: It's like a magic round is it?

1449
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 10: Is there?

1450
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 2: Any magic of no one's around is the mag and

1451
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 2: forest is the magic there? If no one's there?

1452
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 13: Asar from the NRL, I think sports have to give

1453
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 13: up on that.

1454
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, l makes the work, no one else does.

1455
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 2: It's too random. But I mean, now listen, let me

1456
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 2: ask you this thing, guy, does the fact that the

1457
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 2: Phoenix and Auckland are now the top two sides in

1458
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 2: the comp mean the sport is somehow going to be

1459
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 2: transformed in this country to something bigger than what it

1460
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 2: has been to point or pondering.

1461
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Speaker 13: I was actually pondering that when I saw the table

1462
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 13: myself after they had won, and I asked myself that question,

1463
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:10,799
Speaker 13: and I still don't know the answer.

1464
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 2: Did you refer to yourself in the third person when

1465
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 2: you asked yourself that question?

1466
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 8: I did not.

1467
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 9: I thought to myself, Guy, what does guy make with it?

1468
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 9: I got bloody Muhammad Ali Shah. I.

1469
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 13: I think it's got something to do with the growth

1470
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 13: of football in this country, and I think that's slightly

1471
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Speaker 13: evident by the numbers that have turned up to the

1472
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 13: Auckland c games and the Phoenix in Auckland, you see,

1473
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 13: I believe play again very soon, maybe even a week's

1474
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 13: time in Auckland, and you've got to wonder that in

1475
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 13: Auckland particularly, they'll probably get a very good crowd to

1476
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 13: that what they're out top of the table. I think

1477
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 13: the first team in a league history to have won

1478
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 13: its first four games or.

1479
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 2: Something like that, and no one scored against them.

1480
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 20: Yet.

1481
01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 2: Now next question, Andrew Onto in their debut season they

1482
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 2: win the title, does that make them a Hellberg winner?

1483
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:12,520
Speaker 10: M certainly be certainly good nominations.

1484
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 17: Not this year.

1485
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 13: Why because I think the black Caps winning his Series

1486
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 13: three in India and then.

1487
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 2: Probably some of the that's that's that a thing. It's

1488
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 2: not a title. You just won a series. That's not

1489
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 2: a title, a title beach series the Olympics.

1490
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 13: No team in cricket had even in cricket, had ever

1491
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 13: done that.

1492
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 2: Ever, no, no football side never entered a competition and

1493
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 2: won the first year either.

1494
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 13: I think there's a difference.

1495
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 2: I reckon if you're a judging panel, you'd be the

1496
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 2: weak link.

1497
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 9: As he was sitting on the judging panel, mighty where

1498
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 9: he's guy made of this who would go.

1499
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 13: Clearly clearly, I wouldn't be the weak link because Andrew

1500
01:10:56,880 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 13: several agrees with me. I think you'd hey, hey, Mike.

1501
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,839
Speaker 9: Look, football has always had booming numbers male and female

1502
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 9: at lower levels. Right, it's massive at junior level, but

1503
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 9: I think there's always been a drop off, like a

1504
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 9: lot of sport. But now that they have two shop windows,

1505
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 9: pathways kids, kids and pathways to operate off, make it

1506
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 9: to the phoenix, make it talk. And they've seen maybe

1507
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 9: spotted by a Premier league team or a team from

1508
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 9: Europe or whatever that you know, this giving this is

1509
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 9: giving kids pathways a little like basketball these days, which

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01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 9: is booming. There's a pathway to a possible college scholarship

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01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 9: and pro team. You know, there's there's the pathways exactly.

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01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 10: Yeah.

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01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 2: Hey, I read an article of Joe Schmidt right and

1514
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 2: he's only contracted to the end of the lines to it,

1515
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 2: and he's asking himself very much like you asked you

1516
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 2: to get the self. Guy, you're be going, Joe, do

1517
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 2: I sign on to the World Cup? What should Andrew?

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01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 2: What should Joe Schmidt do?

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01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 9: I think he should. Yeah, I think that gives him

1520
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 9: a lot more time with this Wallaby team. We've seen

1521
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 9: what he's already done in a short space of time,

1522
01:11:56,360 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 9: despite massive protestations and up and up all in Australia.

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01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 9: I think he's done, very.

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01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 2: Rewarded and brilliantly.

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01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 10: Should stay on.

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01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 2: What does guy think?

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01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 13: Guy, I'm never going to live that down.

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01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 22: I think he should and I think that Rugby Australia

1529
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 22: should do whatever they can to get him to their sets, says,

1530
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 22: look at the improvements he's already made and with another

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01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 22: what two and a half years or so into the

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01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 22: world cut up, I think they could be a force

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01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 22: at that tournament.

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Speaker 2: Great pleasure, Good to see you and we'll catch up

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Speaker 2: next week. Guy he Belt and andrews Elm eight twenty two.

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Speaker 2: doing a good job, but is up against it. I

1555
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 2: watched the whole race inside his car. Yeah, if you

1556
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 2: get IF one TV, it's quite the experience and you

1557
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 2: can follow the driver the whole time. Anyway, you pick

1558
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 2: your own driver, any one of them. You can hear

1559
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 2: the communication from his engineer. He was told to let

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01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 2: Peries through twice and to let Yuki pass on turn twelve. Also,

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01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 2: he was told to lift and coast halfway through the

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01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 2: race to protect the tires and brakes. This short season,

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01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 2: he's handed will make or break him. But it's out

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01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 2: of his hands. Well, it's not out of his hands,

1565
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 2: but I take your point. He's under instruction. A lot

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01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 2: team orders play a tremendous amount. Yuki ended up with

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01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 2: points peis I think I can't remember where they came

1568
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 2: ninth and tenth or tenth and ninth one or the

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01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:06,759
Speaker 2: other soperious snuck home. It's not going to change anything materially.

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01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 2: The fact that Mercedes were first and second and looked

1571
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 2: fantastic all weekend long shows you just how car and

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01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:20,560
Speaker 2: tracks specific each and every individual Grand Prix is. Mercedes

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01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 2: are not that competitive that often, but this weekend they

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01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 2: completely dominated. And so it is off to the Middle

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01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 2: East for the final two meetings of the year. We

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01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 2: will keep you posted, of course, news for you then

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Speaker 2: Steve Price.

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Speaker 2: Be Bie, Mike Andrew Sevill blaming the weather conditions for

1582
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 2: a poor All Blacks performance. Watched in an NFL game

1583
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 2: last week Cleveland, Pittsburgh. I watched that. It was Friday afternoon,

1584
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 2: a blizzard came through. It was amazing and they didn't

1585
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 2: start dropping the ball. They were making snow angels. But

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01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 2: it was extraordinary to what It was a cold day

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01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 2: to start, but nothing was happening, was just cold. And

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01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 2: then about halfway through the game, the snow arrived in

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01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 2: a way that you could only ever happen in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Mike tickets to Auckland fcv. Phoenix four hundred and twenty

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01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 2: five dollars. You must be joking. Well, yes and no,

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01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 2: we've checked that out because I couldn't believe it's true.

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01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 2: It's not true. Thirty dollars for the south stand, so

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01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 2: the south stands come as you please. Four seats though,

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01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 2: if you want an allocated seat for that game, there's

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01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 2: only a handful left. And you are right, there are

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Speaker 2: four hundred and twenty five dollars if you can charge

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01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 2: four hundred and twenty five dollars. As well as asking

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Speaker 2: the guys before the news if you can charge four

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five dollars because the game's virtually a sellout,

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01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,879
Speaker 2: you're onto something good. Twenty ten minutes away.

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01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 14: From nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace

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01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 14: of mind for New Zealand business.

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01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 2: It's price from Australy. Very good morning to you.

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01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 10: Good there.

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01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 2: Standard of living where.

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01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 10: You at back at the nineteen fifties.

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01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 16: According to report at the weekend, households in Australia are

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01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 16: suffering the worst decline and anyone think you've moving to

1610
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 16: Australia should listen to this worst decline in living standards

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01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:12,480
Speaker 16: since the nineteen fifties, with the fall in real disposable

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01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 16: income eclipsing those of the last four major recessions. I

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01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 16: couldn't believe this when I read it. Analysis of the

1614
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 16: official government stats shows the current cost of living crisis

1615
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 16: has hit households twice as hard as our recession we

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01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 16: had to have in nineteen nineteen ninety one and the

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01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 16: eighty two to eighty three recession, and significantly more sharply

1618
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 16: than anything going all the way back to nineteen fifty

1619
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 16: nine reveals living standards in this country during the current

1620
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 16: inflation crisis. And this is the importance that I have

1621
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 16: fallen more than in any other OECD country, where the

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01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 16: hit to households now worse than all comparable developed nations.

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01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 10: So there you go. That's where we're at.

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01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 2: Can you feel it?

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01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 16: I can't because I'm lucky, but I think anyone with

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01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 16: a family living in a major capital city on two

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01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 16: household average incomes would definitely be feeling it. And it

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01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 16: comes through things like the price of petrol groceries. People

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01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 16: are not going out as much. I definitely think they

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01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 16: can feel it, and the cost of living is going

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01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 16: to be the major issue when the election comes around, because,

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01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 16: of course Anthony Albernize and Jim Chalmers before the last

1633
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 16: election said they would cut everyone's energy bills and everyone

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01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 16: would feel better off under labor or Peter doesn't to

1635
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,719
Speaker 16: do a stand up and say what Donald Trump said?

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01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 16: Do you feel better two and a half years on

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01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 16: from when Antony Albernize heed or not.

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01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 2: It's a classic thing. If you run a polt, say

1639
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:41,640
Speaker 2: is the country hitting in the right direction and the

1640
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 2: majority of people say no, the government of the day

1641
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 2: will lose. That's how it works.

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01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 16: Yeah, but we've not seen a one term federal government

1643
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 16: defeated since the nineteen thirty so the stats go against that.

1644
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 16: I keep warning everybody that a minority labor government would

1645
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 16: be complete disaster.

1646
01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 2: Now, the big protest yesterday, how many arrests.

1647
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 16: I'm sure he probably saw the pictures last night, one

1648
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 16: hundred and seventy climate protesters. They blockaded the Newcastle Port

1649
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 16: Court where most of the coal comes in and out

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01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 16: of the country. They paddled out there at ten in

1651
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 16: the morning. Ten of the protesters got stuck and needed rescuing.

1652
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 16: Fourteen of those people charged with children. Can you believe

1653
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 16: you take children out in a kayak? And paddle in

1654
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 16: front of a coal ship seems to be not very sensible.

1655
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 16: Opposition police spokesman up there, Poor Tool, said he was

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01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 16: concerned the magistrates would not hit protesters with the full penalties.

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01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 10: Well, I never do. They give them a slap on

1658
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 10: the wrist.

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01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 16: Full penalties would include jail time fines of twenty two

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01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 16: thousand dollars.

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01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 10: That's not going to happen, he said. They've got to

1662
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 10: stop giving people a slap on the wrist. This ship

1663
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:48,480
Speaker 10: was forced to stop.

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01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 16: And could not leave the Port adam Vant. The Green's

1665
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 16: leader was there looking like a fool. They were called

1666
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:57,560
Speaker 16: numb skulls and it was dangerous, really really dangerous. And

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01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 16: so we'll wait and see what happens in.

1668
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 2: Court and then what's the treaty process in Victoria?

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01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 16: Secret I know you've been having issues with the white

1670
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 16: hanging in New Zealand. The first treaty negotiations between the

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01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 16: Victorian Labor government and something called the euroch Justice Commission,

1672
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 16: which is an indigenous elected panel, took started on Monday

1673
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 16: this start on Monday this week today, and the Premier

1674
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 16: has come out and said, well, look I'm not going

1675
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 16: to rule things in or out here today. We will

1676
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 16: have those negotiations at the table. But one of the

1677
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 16: Assembly members has told the heroalk Son negotiations have been

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01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 16: kept top secret. The public and Assembly members have been

1679
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 16: locked out. We've been told to stay quiet, do not

1680
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 16: speak about the negotiations, clean our social media accounts up, and.

1681
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 10: Don't talk to the media.

1682
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 16: Well, this treat is going to involve everything from land

1683
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 16: rights to compensation for previous crimes committed.

1684
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,640
Speaker 10: Everything is on the table. The premier is not going

1685
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 10: to let the public know that.

1686
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 2: And that's just in Victoria.

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01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 10: Just for Victoria.

1688
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 16: Yes, and at least two other states are also having

1689
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 16: similar discussions. But Victoria, they went to the last election

1690
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 16: making it clear they were going to have these negotiations,

1691
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 16: but no one was ever told exactly what it's going

1692
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 16: to do, and the general public has no same the

1693
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 16: negotiation at all.

1694
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 2: Hey, this back down back to Albanza, the backdown on

1695
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 2: the social media and lies and all that sort of

1696
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 2: stuff that the Senate got upset about, and they back

1697
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 2: down on that. What's driving the alban Easy, I know

1698
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 2: how to run your life. And that's before we get

1699
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 2: to the banning kids from social media. Where where's is that?

1700
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,640
Speaker 2: Just the classic left leaning labor government who wants to

1701
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 2: run your life.

1702
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 16: Well, if you at the worst case scenario, it's about

1703
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 16: everyone having a digital ID. So we've tried in this

1704
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 16: country before to have you know, everyone to have a

1705
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 16: card that says who they are and where they live.

1706
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 16: That's what this would end up being, because you would

1707
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 16: have to register. It's also the same with the under sixteens.

1708
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 16: The Senate was never going to pass it. The Greens

1709
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,919
Speaker 16: even arped up about it, and so did the Coalition,

1710
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 16: and so the misinformation built was going to hand over

1711
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 16: to a bunch of public servants the right to say

1712
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 16: what you and I can put up on social media.

1713
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 16: It was never going to happen, so that's been binned.

1714
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 16: But interestingly, Peter Dutton will meet with his coalition party

1715
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 16: members in Candra this morning. He's going to try and

1716
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,560
Speaker 16: convince them that this under sixteen social media ban on

1717
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 16: kids is a good thing. Now, many in his party

1718
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 16: disagree with him, many think it's a trojan horse, so

1719
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 16: he's going to have to try and convince him.

1720
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 10: I can't see how it's going to work.

1721
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:37,640
Speaker 2: Well no, yeah, well that's the other thing. So the

1722
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,560
Speaker 2: point is it a good thing? As in like we

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Speaker 2: need to do something, but versus it can't work because

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Speaker 2: it won't.

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Speaker 10: Well, I think it can't work because it won't.

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Speaker 16: And the use of social media by anyone under the

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Speaker 16: age of sixteen should be up to the parents, and

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Speaker 16: the parents should be monitoring what they do and do

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Speaker 16: not do. Now, people will say I'm being naive by

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Speaker 16: saying that, but our kids will find a way around.

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Speaker 16: Of course, there's no way, I mean, And parents who

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Speaker 16: don't care will simply hand their phones over to their

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Speaker 16: kids and so go your hearts exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Might see Wednesday Steve Price out of Australia. By the way,

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Speaker 2: part of that cost of living. I found it fascinating.

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Speaker 2: If you think housing's a problem here, it's a problem

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01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 2: there as well. In fact, their problem is worse than ours.

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Speaker 2: Cost of building a home New South Wales and Victoria

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01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 2: has gone up by more than twenty five percent. So

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Speaker 2: when we say we need more homes, why don't we

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01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 2: building more homes? The answer is because count affordabile. No,

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01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 2: you've got to have a buyer at the end of it.

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01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 2: And if you're running up ten thousand dollars a square

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01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 2: meter by the time you've run a couple of hundred meters.

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01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 2: You've got a two million dollar home. No one's buying it.

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01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 2: National average has risen from three forty five thousand, four

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01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 2: forty three between twenty three and twenty four. It's gone

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Speaker 2: up twenty five percent in Victoria, thirty percent in New

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Speaker 2: South Wales, forty four percent in Queensland eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 1: News Talks at B.

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Speaker 2: So you're speaking of social media and Lebron James over

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01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 2: the weekend announced he's taking a break. Too much negativity

1754
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 2: and spies that's taking him that long to work all

1755
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 2: of that out. Here's the thing I seriously thought about

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01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 2: over the weekend. I'm an art fan. I'm not a

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm not one of those people whommersed in

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Speaker 2: art and can boy witness with all my knowledge of art.

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Speaker 2: I just I know what I like, and I'm the

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Speaker 2: stuff I like I'm particularly passionate about anyway. One of

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Speaker 2: the artists I like is a guy called mcgriat randomcgriat,

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Speaker 2: and he's a surrealist. And last week everyone got coverage

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Speaker 2: of the banana and the duct tape, and there was

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Speaker 2: a Matista that sold for sixty five million, And it's

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01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 2: sort of interesting in the sense that those sort of

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Speaker 2: sales and places like Southeby's and New York and Christie's

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01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,600
Speaker 2: and stuff give you an indication as to where the

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Speaker 2: world's at, where the ultra rich are at. Are they

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Speaker 2: into art?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: Do they have so much money they don't know what

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Speaker 2: to do with it? Anyway? Matistat sixty five million is

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01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,640
Speaker 2: quite a lot of money, but that pales into insignificance

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Speaker 2: to the one hundred and eighty five million US that

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01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 2: they bought the mcgreet for. And if you've never seen

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01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 2: him greet, it's well the particular series or one of

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Speaker 2: the paintings that was done in fifty four, nineteen fifty four,

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01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 2: it's just to my eye anyway, is as beautiful as

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01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 2: a painting can possibly be. The surrealist nature of it.

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01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,640
Speaker 2: It's basically a house and the light is on in

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01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: the porch and there's a tree in the background. It's

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01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 2: a neighborhood setting. And the surrealist part of it is

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01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 2: it mixes night and day. Anyway, one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: five million dollars somebody likes it as it turns out

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Speaker 2: and I didn't realize this, and this has sort of

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01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 2: got me thinking what I'm going to do over the

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Speaker 2: summer period. There's an exhibition of macgreet in Sydney and

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Speaker 2: a virtual copy of the painting that was sold last week.

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Speaker 2: It's sister painting if you like, is in this exhibition

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Speaker 2: and it's part of what's called the Mental Collection. It

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01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 2: comes out of Houston. It's one of one hundred and

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Speaker 2: seventeen works, the most comprehensive exhibition of the Belgian artists

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Speaker 2: work ever seen in Australia. And I was just wondering

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Speaker 2: is it worth crossing the Tasman to go look at

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Speaker 2: a few mcgreets, because I always remember being in Rome

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Speaker 2: once and I stumbled upon Medigliani purely by accident. And

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Speaker 2: I walked around the corner and I thought, what's this, Oh,

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01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 2: it's an art gallery. I might go in and have

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Speaker 2: a look and see what's in there. And I walked

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Speaker 2: and there was a significant, major exhibition of Medigliani.

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Speaker 17: I can see why you like it.

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Speaker 18: There's quite a few with like wine bottles and wine.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, very beautiful. It's the cleanliness and that's what it's

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Speaker 2: sort of I shouldn't be infuriated by these things, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not really, But when we focus on a banana

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01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 2: and a piece of duct tape, that well, it's it's

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01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 2: just bullshit. And and you look at you look at

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Speaker 2: a guy like Margreet or Matisse or Medigliani, you know,

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01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 2: like genuine, genuine talent, if not genius. That's what we

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01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 2: should spend more time talking about than idiots that come

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01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,719
Speaker 2: up with abstract nonsense. Night Away from Nine.

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Speaker 1: With the range rover of the line.

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Speaker 10: You talks dead, be sure.

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Speaker 2: It might follow you. You'll be glad you did. Something

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01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 2: else will come out of it. What does that mean?

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01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 2: Is that like a mystery comment? Something else will come

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Speaker 2: out of it? Like what what's going to come out

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Speaker 2: of it? Went to Marguerite Saturday? Definitely worth the trip

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01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 2: of new series. Somebody went there just Saturday? Worth the trip?

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Speaker 10: You know what?

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Speaker 2: I think? I just might six minutes away from.

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Speaker 1: Nine trending now with Chemist ware House, Great savings every day.

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Speaker 2: Fly to the wonderful world of the NFL. I told

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Speaker 2: you about the Cleveland Browns and the Steelers moment ago

1825
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 2: in the snow in Cleveland on Friday. Then over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: the big news has been the New York Giants. Now,

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01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 2: the New York Giants have been famously useless for as

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01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 2: long as I can remember. In fact, New York as

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01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 2: a sporting market is the biggest in America, of course,

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01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 2: and yet they are represented in football terms by a

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01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:45,799
Speaker 2: couple of fantastically bad teams. One of them is the Giants,

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Speaker 2: the others the New York Jets. I'm reading this morning

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Speaker 2: that Aaron Rodgers no less is getting on with nobody,

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01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 2: and he was their great savior, and he may well

1835
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 2: be benched in the next week or so because thereon

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01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 2: they were going to win everything with Aaron on board.

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01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 2: But then, of course he did it hamstring last year,

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01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 2: and then he came back and he turns out not

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01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 2: to be quite. He would argue that the people around

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01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,640
Speaker 2: him are they're good anyway, they're looking at potentially benching him.

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01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 2: He wants to play next year, contract's up. He wants

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01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 2: to play next year, but he doesn't want to play

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01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,640
Speaker 2: for New York. That's been a mistake. Meantime, across the

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01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 2: road at the Giants, Daniel Jones, who's their quarterback. He

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01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 2: came off a rookie contract last year in March and

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01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 2: really he had never done anything, except the Giants didn't

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01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 2: see it that way. So they gave him a four

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Speaker 2: year contract with one hundred and sixty million dollars and

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01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 2: they said, Daniel, you are the man, until of course

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01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 2: he wasn't, which is right now because they benched him

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01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 2: over the weekend. So he's gone three and sixteen three

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01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 2: and sixteen, meaning three wins and sixteen losses. That I'll

1853
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 2: let you in on a secret is not good. So

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01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:45,759
Speaker 2: ESPN host Elie Duncan said this, you guys.

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Speaker 23: Think he had this saved in his note since like

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Speaker 23: twenty twenty, in all seriousness, DJ I could have saved

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01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 23: you like ninety seconds a rery. Sorry, you paid me

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01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 23: one hundred and eight million dollars for one playoff win,

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Speaker 23: and I look forward to reviving my career as brock

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Speaker 23: Perti's back up.

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Speaker 2: Then ooh ooh, said the giants. They got a bit

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Speaker 2: upset about that, and they rang them up in the

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Speaker 2: sie you count say nasty things like that, which anyway

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01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 2: led to Stephen A. Smith, who's their biggest name, saying this,

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Speaker 2: the New.

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Speaker 12: York Giants respectfully shut the hell up.

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Speaker 10: Y'all are awful.

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Speaker 12: As an organization, And you.

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Speaker 21: Got the nerve to sit up there and put on

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Speaker 21: and call the officers that complain to executives about somebody

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Speaker 21: that went on.

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Speaker 2: National television to do their job.

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Speaker 21: Why don't you do your damn job as an organization?

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Speaker 2: Y'all are sorry? Agree, y'all are pathetic.

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Speaker 21: The only reason why you get away with it is

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01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 21: because the death have been worse.

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Speaker 2: Could they ain't make the damn playoffs in twenty ten?

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01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 2: And you got the nerve to sit.

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Speaker 21: Up there and call the network because you want to

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01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:53,719
Speaker 21: whine and moan about your ineptitude being put on public display.

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01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 2: Well, maybe if you let.

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Speaker 21: People watch it for free and it charged them for

1883
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 21: coming to watch your sorry asses, maybe you would have

1884
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 21: done Maybe you would have been in a position to

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01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 21: say something, but you did it go.

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01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,600
Speaker 17: To break, So that was that.

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Speaker 2: Anyway. The Giants are currently playing at the moment against

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01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers ad just into the third quarter.

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01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 2: They're down twenty three mils so benching Daniel Jones, it's

1890
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 2: not really improving. Matters back tomorrow morning at six as

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Speaker 2: always beautiful.

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Speaker 1: This seas it Oh For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast,

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