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Speaker 1: So one hundred and forty nine projects are set to

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Speaker 1: be included in the government's Fast Track Approvals Bill. The

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Speaker 1: majority are for housing, land development, infrastructure, as well as

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Speaker 1: renewable electricity generation. Eleven mining and eight quarrying projects are

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Speaker 1: on the list, with the hope it could help with

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Speaker 1: the government's goal to double the value of mineral exports

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Speaker 1: by twenty thirty five. Josie Vdal is with US the

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Speaker 1: Straterra Mining Chief Executive. Josie good morning, Good morning. What

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Speaker 1: do you say to the naysays the opposition who says

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Speaker 1: this is going to wreck havoc on our environment.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I say progress and jobs are good.

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Speaker 2: Contributing to the global supply chain of minerals everyone needs

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Speaker 2: is good, and the misinformation about the bill is not

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Speaker 2: so good. So I suggest that people actually read it

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Speaker 2: and understand it. The people who are on that list

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Speaker 2: still have to make an application to the Environmental Protection

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Speaker 2: Authority and still be assessed under the bill once it passes. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we say, you know.

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Speaker 1: But the protections are greatly reduced for the environment. Un't that.

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Speaker 1: I mean the environmental protections under the RMA Conservation Act,

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Speaker 1: the Wildlife Act. They can be overridden.

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Speaker 2: We don't believe that that will happen in mining because

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Speaker 2: responsible mining and New Zealand still has to meet the

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Speaker 2: same high standards to be a global player. Basically, there's

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Speaker 2: so much pressure on companies now to report on their environmental,

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Speaker 2: social and governance standards. So we're not going to see

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Speaker 1: But okay, the trans see if.

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Speaker 2: Things happen faster and more efficiency.

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Speaker 1: The trans Tasman resources, the Tataranhaky sea bed mining, let's

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Speaker 1: look at that for example. So you've had a Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court overturning the consents, You've had the Environment Court involved,

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Speaker 1: So how can it go ahead if all of those

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Speaker 1: protections that that have already been looked at are still

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Speaker 2: So what we had before was a system where the

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Speaker 2: only thing considered for a project was the environment by

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of people who were very fixated on

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Speaker 2: the environment. Now we can consider economic and environment, which

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Speaker 2: is slightly more appropriate.

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Speaker 1: Okay, which is Josie, because this is the point I

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Speaker 1: think you're conceding that because we're looking wider than just environment,

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Speaker 1: there will be some more detrimental environmental impacts, but we're

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Speaker 1: taking a wider view here, No.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think there will be detrimental impacts from

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Speaker 2: mining because there's been so many years of measuring and

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Speaker 2: managing them that people have the science behind them. We

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Speaker 2: have to you know, New Zealand has to rely on

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Speaker 2: science and technology and facts and evidence, not emotion, and

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Speaker 2: there's been a high amount of emotion in this argument.

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Speaker 2: And you know t here done. They've spent millions of

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Speaker 2: dollars on science to show that what the impact of

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Speaker 2: the seabed mining they're planning it, and it's pretty.

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Speaker 1: Low impact, sopies. No species will go extinct like they're claiming.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's home to thirty species of marine mammals.

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Speaker 2: We won't lose any Well, the research in science that

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Speaker 2: TTR of God suggests that that's a very turbulent part

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Speaker 2: of the coast and the sea bed is being churned

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Speaker 2: up all the time anyway. So you know, they have

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Speaker 2: presented science and they will continue to present science to

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Speaker 1: All right, Josie, thank you very much for your time

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Speaker 1: this morning, really appreciate it. Just before you go, Josie,

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Speaker 1: you're expecting any more protests now that this list has

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Speaker 1: come out because you had those ones on the terrace.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's unfortunate as I say that people

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Speaker 2: following what is actually happening and I'm basically making stuff up.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, they'll probably they will protest because that's what

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Speaker 2: they do. It's a job for them.

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Speaker 1: So fair enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, jose thank you, I say, go science.

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Speaker 1: Jase, thank you for your time. Really appreciate you getting

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Speaker 1: up for us this morning. Jose V Deel who is

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Speaker 1: with Straterra, that's the Mining Association group and one of

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Speaker 1: their clients is trans Tasman Resources, who are looking at

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Speaker 1: doing the Tadanhaki Sea bed mining. The benefits, as I

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Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, a billion dollars in export receipts per year,

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Speaker 1: and an estimated wealth boost of one hundred and fifty

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