1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,680 Speaker 1: It looks like the business of gangs is going with 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: correc ten thousand members. So two years ago it was 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy. As of today it's ten thousand 4 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: and nine. Paul Basham's the Police Assistant Commissioner and as 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: with us, Poor morning, Good morning, Mark Mitchell claims the 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: increase is slowing. Is he right? 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: Well, I think it comes at a time when we've 8 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 2: really never been better in the moment we're operating out 9 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: there against gain criminal behavior. Since the gangst came into 10 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: in November last year, we've laid nine thousand charges against 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: people that are validated on the gang list, and two 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: thousand of those charges have been for violence, was executed 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: nearly six hundred wants and taken over one hundred firearms 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: out of there scene. In our prosecution rate against people 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: that have validated on the gang list sits in the 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: mid nineties, So you know, we're out there all the 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: time having an impact on gain criminal behavior. Into some extent, 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: the gang list provides us with a sort of point 19 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: of intelligence about the operating ronment and gives us better accuracy, 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 2: and ironically, the increase in the numbers that we're seeing 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: on the list kind of reflects that we're out there more, 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: doing more policing against gang members, and as a consequence 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: of that, we're getting better intelligence about them. 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: I'm very I'm very glad you said that, because I 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: wondered why we're obsessing about the numbers. Aren't we more 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: interested in what they're actually doing. I mean, if they're 27 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: ten thousand and nine of them playing twister with their mates, 28 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: that's fine. If they're committing crime, that's a problem. You're 29 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: telling us you're on top of the crime. 30 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'd respond in two ways to that. Our 31 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: staff wilsome and I don't think we've ever been better. 32 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: You know that there's been lots of reporting about the 33 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: work with undertaking against gas like the Common Seros. Last month, 34 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: we were operating against the Greasy Dogs and totong A. 35 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: Two weeks ago we took out a chapter of the 36 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: Hell's Angels and tong Andili and that's pretty significant and 37 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: pleasing gems because they don't make that easy for us. 38 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: And to take out the Hell's Angels from a law 39 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: enforcement point of view, is significant and reflects the fact 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: that our staff are doing awesome work. As I talk 41 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: to you now, we've got hundreds of stuff in Auckland 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: terminating against an organized crime. There's more information in the 43 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: less about that later today. And god knows how many 44 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: millions of dollars that we've restrained in terms of our 45 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: set restraint and seizure over the last year and five years. So, 46 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: and we're operating in a way that the government and 47 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: the community would want us to be in the way 48 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: that we're tackling organized crime and gain criminal behavior. And 49 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: I think the second part of way out to that 50 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: would be, you know, we have the ambition for our 51 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 2: communities to be safe and feel safe, and I think 52 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: the GAIN legislation that dropped last year has had a 53 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: significant impact out there in terms of community feelings of safety, 54 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: and the feedback that we're getting is very positive in 55 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: that regards. So it's met the mark, if you like, 56 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: openly whelming and met the mark in terms of the 57 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: government's in tension and the way that we're able to 58 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: execute it. And we're getting really good feedback in terms 59 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: of feelings of community safety as a consequence. But it's 60 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 2: also you know, with the resource that came with it, 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 2: that it has given us the opportunity to be more 62 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: interactive in the way that we are police thinking criminal 63 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: behavior and back to the interest in the ganglist, I 64 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: think that kind of reflects the fact that we're out 65 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: there more and therefore we've got better accurate. 66 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: Intel, nicely said Paul. Appreciate your time very much, Paul Basham, 67 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: who's the police assistant commissioner? You thinking what I'm thinking. 68 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: You've never heard a cop in your life more eloquent. 69 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: If he's good looking as well, he's. 70 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: The I certainly like the number of the times you 71 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: use the word awesome. 72 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: Exactly if he's good looking as well. Here's the New 73 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: Zealand Police Forces post a child Mike Mitchell be listening 74 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: to that will be in tears. 75 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast. 76 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: Listen live to news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, 77 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.