1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: The issues is the interviews and the insight. 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: Andrew dickens on early edition with one roof make your 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 2: Property search simple, Used talks. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 3: It'd be well, good morning to you. You're halfway there. 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 3: It's a Wednesday. I'm Andrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridge and 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 3: coming up over the next sixteen minutes. From a famine 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 3: of rental properties in the market, we now have a feast. 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 3: So what changed and will we ever see rents going down? 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: We'll have that story for you in five. The astronauts 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 3: stranded in space are on their way home, so what 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 3: have they been through. We're going to talk to a 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 3: former astronauts in ten minutes time, and the Putin Trump 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 3: talks which are going on as we speak. We'll bring 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 3: you the latest and we'll talk to your politics with 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 3: Robert Patman and we'll do that just before six. We'll 16 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: have correspondence from right around the world and New Zealand 17 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 3: at news as it breaks, and you can have your 18 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 3: say by texting me. The number of ninety two ninety 19 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: two or small charge does apply. It is now eight 20 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: minutes after five. 21 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: The agenda. 22 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: It's Wednesday, the nineteenth March, and the fragile karm of 23 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: a gaza has come to an abrupt end. More than 24 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: four hundred people have been killed and six hundred injured 25 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: in the Gaza strip after Israel launch strikes against what 26 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: it calls terror target. It ends the seas file that's 27 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: been placed in mid January, but Israel is pointing the 28 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 3: finger at Hamas. 29 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: Has reached a deadlock. 30 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 4: He said yes more than once concrete proposals made by 31 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 4: the American Special Envoy who extendacies fire. 32 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: Hamas said no, And the families of Israeli hostages are 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: fearing the worst. 34 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 5: I think it's disastrous because we have our kidnap people 35 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 5: sitting there and it kill only either there will be 36 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 5: heard directly or by Zahamas. It will not bring anything good. 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: And of course to the story that we're all waiting for. 38 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: In the entire world is waiting for details from Donald 39 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: Trump's phone call with Vladimir Putin. It was understood that 40 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: the call was due to take place right now. Details 41 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: so far remains scarce, except for one fellaw who sees 42 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: it's going well. They're expected to talk a potential ceasefire 43 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: ideal in Ukraine. It appears nothing is off the table. 44 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 6: We don't know really what the parameters. The President Trump 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 6: says that the vast majority of core elements of this 46 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 6: agreement have been agreed, but we don't know what those are. 47 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: We don't know if that is true. 48 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 6: We don't know whether or not the Russians are prepared 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 6: to make any concessions. 50 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, in the United Kingdom, the government is putting ahead 51 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: of major welfare reforms. It includes narrowing the criteria for 52 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: the disability Benefit and changes to the job seeker Benefit. 53 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 3: It will save five million pounds by twenty thirty. Working Penson, 54 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: Secretary was very passionate about the whole thing in the 55 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: House of Commons. 56 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 7: The status quote is unacceptable, but it is not inevitable. 57 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 7: We were elected on a mandate for change, to end 58 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 7: the sticky plaster approach. We believe in the valley and 59 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 7: potential of every single person that we all have something 60 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 7: positive to contribute and can make a difference. 61 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: By the way, that's five billion, not five million. I apologize. 62 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: And finally, the last surviving Battle of Britain pilot John 63 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: Paddy Henningway has died at the age of one hundred 64 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: and five. He joined the Royal Air Force as a 65 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: teenager before World War II. He was awarded the Distinguished 66 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: Flying Cross. During the course of the war he was 67 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: shot down four times. And the amazing thing about that 68 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: golden generation is that Paddy just kept on going back. 69 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day Early Edition. 70 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: With Andrew Dickins and one roof Make Your Property Search Simple, 71 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: News Talk Sippy. 72 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: It's ten out to five. Good morning, good morning, and 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: thank you for joining me. Now, cops, I got to 74 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: stay on the beat. In the Auckland CBD, the government 75 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: will boost anti crime measures across Central Auckland with one 76 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 3: point three million dollars worth of funding as a result 77 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: of the Proceeds of Crime Fund. Now that Proceeds of 78 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: Crime Fund caven in two thousand and nine. It lets 79 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: the New Zealand Police seize money and assets that have 80 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 3: been obtained directly or indirectly from crimes and once all 81 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: the legal matters are addressed, the recover money is placed 82 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: in the Proceeds of Crime Fund to be spent. And 83 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 3: the whole thing was announced by the Auckland Minister Simmy 84 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: and Brown, Minister for Everything and Associate Justice Minister Nicole McKee, 85 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: and it has been greeted wholeheartedly by retailers and residents. 86 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 3: It'll see the new Federal Streets station open twenty four 87 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: to seven. By the way, that station will open in 88 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 3: the middle of the year. And of course all of 89 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 3: this is a good thing. My question has always been 90 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 3: why did we stop doing this in the first place. 91 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 3: The cop on the beat is assigned to one in 92 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: all citizens and criminals, that the police are in control 93 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: of the streets, not the rat bags. For me, it's 94 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: the first thing the police should fund, not the last. 95 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: And that perception that it's not important is just reinforced 96 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 3: to me by the new funding coming from the Proceeds 97 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 3: of Crime fund and not the general budget. And another 98 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: question I have who thought that no cops on the 99 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 3: beat was a good idea in the first place. It's 100 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: tempting to blame Cuddle's Costa in the last government who 101 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: was soft on crime, but it's been going on far 102 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 3: longer than that. It's another example of public service being 103 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 3: told to cut budgets and then going and cutting the 104 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 3: good stuff instead of the bad. And one more thing 105 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 3: about the funding. This is not just a problem for Auckland. 106 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: It's nationwide. It's in all our cities and towns and 107 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: suburban shopping centers. What about them, Well, we're going to 108 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 3: wait to see if the budget which is forthcoming will 109 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 3: show a changed emphasis. It's twelve after five. We are 110 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: not the only country facing hard times. After the pandemic 111 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: caused an augy of government spending. Germany has had two 112 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: years of negative growth. So overnight a German spending package 113 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 3: was passed by the Bundestag. The proposed package includes spending 114 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: and debt brake reforms that needed a two thirds majority 115 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 3: they easily got. This is to give them a five 116 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 3: hundred billion euro fund for infrastructure and the ability to 117 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: borrow more. In fact, Germany's government is looking to borrow 118 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 3: and spend up to a trillion euro Obviously defense a 119 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: big part of it with all the Ukraine thing. Now 120 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: to get it over the line, the new chancellor Mets 121 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: agreed on a four hundred million euro fund to fight 122 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 3: climate change. So that's to appease the Greens. But at 123 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: a time when this country is embracing austerity and government restraint, 124 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 3: Germany is taking off the shackles, the world is still 125 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: borrowing and spending and that will have consequences for the 126 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 3: global economy and eventually US. And it's thirteen after five. 127 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: So Andrew Dicken, your talk. 128 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: Back question of the day is, if you're an investor 129 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 3: and landlord, are you back in the rental market because apparently, 130 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: all of a sudden there's a glut of rental properties 131 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: and in fact, you will not believe what landlords are 132 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: doing to get tenants. And we'll have that story next. 133 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 3: Here are news Talks at. 134 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: Big on your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition 135 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: with Andrew Dickens and One Roof to make your property 136 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: search simple Youth Talks at B. 137 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: It's sixteen after five, So this is the question, is 138 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: your rental property back online? And if so, why you 139 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: can text me on ninety two ninety two. Because it 140 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: wasn't long ago that people looking for a rental property 141 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: we're fighting off hundreds of other applicants to find a 142 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: home to rent. It was tough, but that tide has turned. 143 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: There are so many rentals available that some landlords are 144 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: offering incentives. Some are saying come and rent my place. 145 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: I'll give you a five hundred dollars grocery voucher. Others 146 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: are offering three weeks of rent to sign tenants up. 147 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: So how big is the gap between supply and demand. Why. 148 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: Serena Gibbon is from the Auckland Property Investors Association and Joints. So, now, 149 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 3: good morning to you, Serena. 150 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:56,239 Speaker 8: Good morning Andrew. 151 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 9: How are you? 152 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: I'm good. So is this common as a landlord offering 153 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 3: incentives all over the place. 154 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 8: I wouldn't say it's terribly common. 155 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 10: I think the fact that we're starting to hear stories 156 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 10: of these incentives popping up around the marketplace just tells 157 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 10: us how out of line some landlords rent expectations are 158 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 10: in terms of the market. 159 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: So for those who do go for the sweetness, do 160 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: they work. 161 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 8: On a case by case basis? 162 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 10: I hope they work, But in general I think, look 163 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 10: at the end of the day, Andrew, if you put 164 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 10: a lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig, right, 165 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 10: So I think the better option for landlords is really 166 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 10: look at resetting their reta expectations. Also look at incentivizing 167 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 10: the tenants by upgrading their properties and lifting the property's standards. 168 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 10: So that's a more attractive option for someone to call 169 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 10: a home. And I think for tenants, given all of 170 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 10: these choices, you know, rather than being distracted by a 171 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 10: five hundred dollars food voucher. Research the landlord, go on 172 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 10: the Tennessee tribe, you know, find out what kind of 173 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 10: landlords are they going to be dealing with. Research the properties, 174 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 10: compare the options that are out, because it's a really 175 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 10: good time to take advantage of that competitive edge. 176 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: You know. 177 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 3: The problem though, of upgrading your property is that's even 178 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: more expensive than a five hundred dollars grocery voucher, so 179 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: it's hitting their margins. 180 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 10: Well, not all upgrades would by not all upgrades will 181 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 10: be backbreaking in terms of financial commitment. And if you 182 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 10: do it, if you do it smartly, it could be 183 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 10: incredibly cost efficient, attractive to the tenants, and also add 184 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 10: value to the property. So I wouldn't write that off 185 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 10: straight away. I guess what I'm trying to say is, 186 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 10: you know, landlords and tennants are bit off looking for 187 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 10: long term benefits rather than short term sweetness. 188 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 3: Okay, so when did we start to see a change 189 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: from the rental shortage that we got used to before 190 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: to and oversupply? Did the change in government bring back 191 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: the investors and the landlords? Are they more properties online? 192 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 10: I wouldn't peg it with the change of government. I would, however, 193 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 10: say that around about a year ago we started hearing 194 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 10: stories of probably seeing vacant for longer open homes being 195 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 10: you know, not really having a lot of people visiting. 196 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 10: So but I think that is really much in line 197 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 10: with the economy very lock stamp or whereas you know, 198 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 10: and exodus of the younger workforce from New Zealand to 199 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 10: the likes of Australia and the UK. You suddenly have 200 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 10: a bottoming out of tenant the tenant, a certain of 201 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 10: cord of tenants. But also you know, when I think 202 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 10: back to back in the post COVID days when we're 203 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 10: going around the country madly building infill terrace housings, you 204 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 10: know what we're hearing is a lot of those terrat 205 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 10: housings are sitting empty, either as properties for sale or 206 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 10: probably for rent. 207 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: I have one last question, hopefully you can answer quickly. 208 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: There's a truism that rents never go down, they just 209 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 3: don't go up so fast. Could this gut possibly see 210 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: a drop in rental prices? 211 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it definitely could see a dropping mental 212 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 10: prices in the short term. 213 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 8: Hope it doesn't last long of course. 214 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 3: And Serena given is from the orkand Property Investors Association, 215 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 3: And of course you say that. You know, I was 216 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: in the office the other day and we're talking about 217 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: these astronauts who are currently on their way home. They're 218 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: going to splash down about eleven o'clock this morning, and 219 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: they spent nine months in space when they thought they 220 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 3: were only going to be there for eight days. And 221 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: I thought that would be an amazing experience, but the 222 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 3: person I was talking to said that would be horrific. 223 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: So what we've found as a fellow who's actually been 224 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 3: in space for a very long time, and he's going 225 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: to talk to us next. It's five twenty News Talks, 226 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 3: ABO News. 227 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: And Views You Trust to start your day. 228 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 2: It's early edition with Andrew Dickens and one Roof Make 229 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: Your Property Search Simple. 230 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: News Talks It Be. 231 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: It's five twenty two. This is going to be a 232 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: movie one day, hasn't it. After nine months stranded in space, 233 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and Sonny Williams will be back 234 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 3: on Earth today. Their stay on the International Space Station 235 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 3: was only supposed to last eight days, but their mission 236 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: had to be extended after the spacecraft they arrived on 237 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: experienced technical issues, so then it ended out being nine months, 238 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: we're expecting splash down just before eleven o'clock. I joined 239 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: now by retired NASA or astronaut Clayton Anderson. Clayton, good 240 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 3: morning to you, Clayton. Clayton Anderson from Houston, Texas. Good morning. 241 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 3: There we go. We're just having a few little difficulties 242 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 3: with the whole thing. So well, we'll talk to him 243 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: in just a few moments time now. So Clayton's been 244 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: up in the International Space Station for one hundred and 245 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 3: sixty six days, which is pretty awesome in the first place. 246 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: He did that in one stint. But the question I 247 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: have for him, how about nine months? And how about 248 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: when you actually went up there for just eight days? 249 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 3: How are you mentally prepared for it? And I have 250 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: another question for him as well. They went up on 251 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 3: a brand new Boeing star Liners spaceship, which once it 252 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: got there, they said, we can't use this anymore. So 253 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: where's that spaceship now? Is it still attached to the 254 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: International Space Station or did they jettison it space junk 255 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: and that's a problem, or is there any ability to 256 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 3: actually fix up the whole thing where the Clayton knows 257 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 3: or not? And where the Clayton will actually join us 258 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 3: as another thing. Clayton, I think we have you now. 259 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 11: Good morning too, well is it good morning, good night, 260 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 11: good day? 261 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 3: You're in New Zealand, whatever you like. You're in space, man, 262 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 3: every day was night and every night was day. So 263 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 3: you spend one hundred and sixty six days up there? 264 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 3: Could you have done nine months? 265 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 9: Good question. My wife and I talked toward the end 266 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 9: of my five months day because there was some uncertainty 267 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 9: going on and between the two of us, given her 268 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 9: role as the general down on earth with my family, 269 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 9: we figured we could go one or two months after 270 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 9: but if we had to go much longer than that, 271 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 9: it would start to strain everything. 272 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: Hell, what was the strain? I mean, you're up there, 273 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 3: you're having the world's most extraordinary experience. You'd know that 274 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: there's a risk of it all. So how does it 275 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: strain things? 276 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 9: Well, you know, if you think about Butch and Sonny, 277 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 9: since that's kind of the topic. 278 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: Of the day. 279 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 9: You know, when you don't know the end date, it 280 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 9: can make it harder, it could make it easy if 281 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 9: you don't focus on an end date, which is what 282 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 9: I did, right. I tried not to think about the 283 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 9: end because I didn't know when the end was coming. 284 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 9: That made it easier to deal with missing the wife, 285 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 9: missing the kids. But you know, I was counting on 286 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 9: my wife to do a lot for my family and 287 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 9: that you know, nobody talks about the toll of the 288 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 9: wife and the family down below. You know, she was 289 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 9: the mom, the dad, the driver, the coach, the nurse, 290 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 9: the she did everything. And she my wife was a 291 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 9: NASA employee. She cut her job down. She had to 292 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 9: have a signed agreement with NASA to allow her to 293 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 9: reduce her work week to thirty hours per week so 294 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 9: that she wouldn't get in trouble because she had so 295 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 9: much to do to take care of my kids at 296 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 9: the time. So you know, that's a big sacrifice for 297 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 9: the other half of your family. 298 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 3: It does kind of show that Butch and Sonny, if 299 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: they've got through it, well, have what it takes, the 300 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: right stuff. You might want to say. It's also, i mean, 301 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: apart from the Boeing ship breaking down, it's also in 302 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: my view, American exceptionalism because no one was expecting people 303 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: to be there for nine months, only eight days, and 304 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: yet you kept them supplied with food, You keep them 305 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: supplied with oxygen. It was quite a remarkable thing. 306 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 9: Well, you know, yes it was. But the supply process 307 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 9: was never affected by any of this. So supply ships 308 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 9: are typically cargo only things like a Russian progress that 309 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 9: come up and bring things on a regular basis. An 310 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 9: uncrewed dragon capsule can bring supplies lots of ways to 311 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 9: do it. That was never affected. So even though they 312 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 9: had two extra guests on board, it probably wasn't a 313 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 9: big deal for them to keep them supplied with food, water, oxygen, 314 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 9: and clothing. You know, it might have been a little 315 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 9: tough at first until the first cargo ship came up, 316 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 9: but I'm sure they were scrambling on the ground to 317 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 9: make sure that Sonny and Butch got some stuff of 318 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 9: theirs on that cargo ship to bring it up. So 319 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 9: you know, it's a process that's pretty well understood. 320 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Clayton, Yes, exactly right, and they showed 321 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: the right stuff. And thank you to our listeners who 322 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 3: said the Bone capsule came back to Worth without astronauts 323 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: about three months after it reached. 324 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio, how It 325 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: by News talks Hip be News. 326 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 3: Looks h B. It is five twenty nine. Winston Peters 327 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: meets with Mico Rubio at eight o'clock this morning our time. 328 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 3: How impressive has he been his foreign minister. He's diplomatic, 329 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: he knows the values of signals. I don't think it 330 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: was a coincidence that he announced the war against what 331 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: values in public service just before his trip. Marco's age 332 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: will look at that. He'll google Winston and they go, oh, 333 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: he's one of us. He has extraordinary energy for a 334 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 3: man of his age, considering he has lifetime devotion to 335 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: good drink and smokes. He's always overseas. That's the sign 336 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 3: of a good foreign minister. You should never see them. 337 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: They should always be overseas doing that job. All of 338 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: this stands in contradiction to his day to day contrarianism, 339 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 3: and he knows that rustles up his five percent threshold. 340 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: But when he is in a foreign minister position, that's 341 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 3: the real Winston. He's just good at the former lawyer 342 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 3: who likes the game and is doing good stuff. We'll 343 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 3: have the details of what he talks to with Marco 344 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: after eleven. Today News Talk sibby. 345 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens on a early edition with one roof, make 346 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: your property Search, Simple, Youth Talk, Zibby, Oh, that's. 347 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: Lady Gaga and Telephone and her new album Mayhem just 348 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 3: debuted at number one on the Billboard two hundred chart 349 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 3: Bigger Sales week of twenty twenty five Female artist. She's 350 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 3: not over. That's fantastic news. 351 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 4: Now on the. 352 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 3: Astronauts, thank you Phil for your text. Ninety two. Ninety 353 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 3: two is the number. Phil says, these astronauts should be 354 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: coming back to a decent payday. The first three hours 355 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 3: at time and a half and then after that double time. 356 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: Can you imagine it? Though it's nine months of overtime 357 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 3: in space, I'll be h I'll be working overtime. My 358 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 3: thoughts about Winston Peters being in his element, Thank you 359 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: to your text. Winstom Peters does a phenomenal job as 360 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 3: Foreign Minister, possibly the best foreign minister we've ever had. 361 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: Kudos to him. I agree, and Michelle reckons that he's 362 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: the right person for the right time and she could 363 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 3: not imagine Nanaia Mahuta doing the business at the moment, 364 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: So thank you. Now, we love our pies and the 365 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 3: Baker's New Zealand PI Awards are just starting the search 366 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: for our best and they've released a fascinating fact. With 367 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: a population of sixty nine point five million, the British 368 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,479 Speaker 3: Pie Awards attract nine hundred entries from a population, as 369 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: you say, just about seventy million, whereas the Bakeels New 370 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: Zealand Supreme Pie Awards attract five hundred and sixty entries 371 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 3: and we have only five point twenty five million. We 372 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 3: love our pies. We eat one hundred million a year 373 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: and we're good at making them. So the other day 374 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: I'm wandering around my town center and there was a 375 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: visiting Canadian school rugby team. I said, hello, boys, what 376 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 3: you doing here? And they said, we've come to be 377 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: thrashed by a New Zealand school team. And I'm like, okay, 378 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: And what was the whole bakery thing? And they were 379 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 3: going in and out for the pies. It was the 380 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: first time they ever had a New Zealand pie and 381 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: they adored it. There was one fellow who'd had four, 382 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: He had four. It was just I love these pies. 383 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 3: They were walking around the town said that they were 384 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 3: in the supermarket eating pies, loving New Zealand. So there 385 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 3: we go. Entries for the Bacel's New Zealand Pire awards 386 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 3: open on April twenty eighth. They close on June twenty sixth. 387 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: The judging day got Tommy Ape already July twenty four. 388 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: Awards night July twenty nine, and this year's theme is 389 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: the seventies. It's twenty one to six. Andrew dickens, let's 390 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 3: go around the nation. Callum Proctor joins you fromdunedan Halle. 391 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 3: Callum morning, Andrew. We've talked already this week about South 392 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 3: Dunedin at floods. So there's war plans. 393 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 12: Yeah, Well, look, the Council's taking a step forward to 394 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 12: consult with all the parties involved here. Residents will soon 395 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 12: be able to have their say on how to protect 396 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 12: the city's southern suburbs from flooding over the next seventy 397 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 12: five years. The Council voted in favor of allowing engagement 398 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 12: to begin with stakeholders and affected communities. Seven plans for 399 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 12: climate adaptation costing up to seven billion dollars have been 400 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 12: proposed after those two reports found that half of South 401 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 12: Dunedin's buildings remain at risk of rainfall flooding. Mayor Jills 402 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 12: Raddick says residents wants improvements so they can continue to 403 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 12: live there, so he says. The council's responsible for starting 404 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 12: that process. 405 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: Now, okay, how's your weather? 406 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 12: It's partly cloudy here today, southeasteries and nineteen. 407 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: Good stuff, clais here, it joins you from Crastia Tale Claire, 408 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 3: good morning. So Sybby and Brown Todd councils to reverse 409 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 3: speed limits. Now your council is talking about it. 410 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 13: Yes, so chrish Church City Council is going to consider 411 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 13: whether to reverse these thirty kilometers per hour limits. They 412 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 13: are meant to return to their original speeds by July 413 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 13: in order to comply with Simeon Brown's new Land transport rules. Interestingly, 414 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 13: for us here in Christchurch, three of the seven are 415 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 13: outside schools. That obviously has meant some reaction. Those roads 416 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 13: will move to have variable thirty kilometers per hour limits, 417 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 13: which would only be in place during those drop off 418 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 13: and pick up times. Council will vote whether to approve 419 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 13: those changes today. It will cost rate payers almost one 420 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 13: hundred thousand dollars after we spent thirty thousand putting them 421 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 13: in place last year. 422 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 3: How's you wear the credit? 423 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: Claire? 424 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 13: Pretty miserable rain easing this morning. Clearing a bit later 425 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 13: fresh south westerlies and a high of seventeen. 426 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 3: Max told joins Us from Willington Helenax, good morning. We 427 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 3: had a burgary the other day and it resulted it 428 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 3: in death. 429 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, quite a terrifying story. In the Peninsula suburb of 430 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 4: Merrimand this week, two adults awoke to when in true 431 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 4: in their home in the early hours of the morning 432 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 4: on Monday. There was a scuffle. Luckily neither were badly heard. 433 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 4: One was heard, but with minor injuries. The intruder fled. 434 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 4: The couple called police a short time later. Officers on 435 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 4: the hunt found another man by his car on a 436 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 4: footpath in Mirramark, quite badly heard and he has now 437 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 4: died in hospital. Police are calling the break in a burglary. 438 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 4: The two incidents likely to be linked. Description of the 439 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 4: suspect as a man wearing a white cap, shorts and 440 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 4: gum boots. There's obviously fear that this guy may have 441 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 4: been prowling in the area in the weeks prior. There 442 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 4: may have possibly been some unreported thefts. Police appealing for 443 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 4: any information they can get. 444 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 3: Really and I thank you. And what's the weather. 445 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 4: It's going to be wet some rain through the day. 446 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 4: Fresh southerly. He's keeping things cool. Sixteen the High Central. 447 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 3: Thank you never written man who joins us from Walkinhall 448 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 3: and Neva. Good morning, so Tiertitudes and Shot. They're not 449 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: going to have a supermarket for a year. 450 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 14: Correct, Well, what's happening is it willwords This is on 451 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 14: tier to Deo peninsu. It will shut its doors in April. 452 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 14: Food Stuff's planning a new world in its place after refurbishments. 453 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 14: As you say, this closure of the supermarket is going 454 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 14: to leave about fifteen thousand residents without a nearby supermarket 455 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 14: for over a year. So some of the shoppers now 456 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 14: they've told our newsrooms this is going to be tough 457 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 14: for people, especially the elderly, with the next nearest supermarket 458 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 14: about two point six kilometers away. Shane Henderson, he's one 459 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 14: of the councilor's Ziaway Tukety councilor. He says, look, this 460 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 14: is going to cause a bit of inconvenience for residents 461 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 14: and you know those who are not used to using online, 462 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 14: we'll probably have to use that. 463 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is interesting because food Stuff's taking over Woolworths 464 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 3: their site. You know, this is grocery churin which is 465 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 3: quite a good thing. How's Awkin's weather? 466 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 14: Showers turning to rain, possibly heavy for a time. This 467 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 14: afternoon twenty one is the high here in Auckland. 468 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 3: But we are heading for a nice enough weekend after 469 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 3: this weather scuds through, and I hope so because I 470 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: will be gone tomorrow and Friday. I'm on a three 471 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 3: day tramp in the coramand or the Pahe Coastal Track. 472 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 3: I'm wondering around the top round Port Jackson and I'm 473 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 3: hoping for some because I don't like tramping. This is 474 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 3: the wife's idea. This is a walk ruined, but I'm 475 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 3: doing it and I'm hoping for good weather. It's seventeen 476 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 3: to six. Germany is spending and borrowing more, but the 477 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: UK is cutting benefits. Gavin Gray joins. 478 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 2: Usnakes international correspondence with Ends and eye insurance, peace of 479 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: mind for New Zealand business. 480 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: It's fourteen to six. Robert Petman on the geopolitical situation 481 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: in a few months time. But first Gavin Gray out 482 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: of the UK head Gavin either Andrew. So the government's 483 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 3: outlined five billion pounds of cuts to benefits. That's going 484 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 3: to create a reaction. 485 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 15: It does sound like a terrific amount of money, isn't 486 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 15: it about eleven billion New Zealand dollars But actually it's 487 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 15: a drop in the ocean of the bill at the moment. 488 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 15: So health and disability related benefits have ballooned in recent years. 489 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,479 Speaker 15: They currently stand at one hundred and forty billion New 490 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 15: Zealand dollars a year. So those are people who say 491 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 15: they're too sick to work, either physically and or mentally. 492 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 15: But the projections are, with the figures rising as fast 493 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 15: as they am, that will grow to two hundred and 494 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 15: twenty billion within the next five years. This government has 495 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 15: now announced some cuts, but the cuts only equate to 496 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 15: about eleven billion New Zealand dollars a year. Opposition MP's 497 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 15: are saying, well, that's not enough. Others are saying it's 498 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 15: too much. Charities, Trade Union some of the government's own 499 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 15: MPs were among those to condemn the cuts. They say 500 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 15: the money should come from the wealthy and more or 501 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 15: the same should go to those who are too ill 502 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 15: to work, and that we're picking on the sort of 503 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 15: low hanging fruit the ones who can't answer back is 504 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 15: the argument. This has been difficult for the government, but well, 505 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 15: let's see how it goes, and I dare say some 506 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 15: of the economists will be hoping more cuts are on 507 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 15: the way. 508 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 3: Absolutely difficult to be a labor person at this time 509 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 3: in these economies. Now there's a key international treaty that 510 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 3: bens antipersonnel land mindes, but Poland and the Bolt States 511 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 3: have announced plans to withdraw. They're worried about Russia. They 512 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 3: want to be able to use their minds. 513 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 15: Yeah, this is more knock on, a ripple effect from 514 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 15: the invasion of Ukraine. So the Baltic States, Estonia, Latvia 515 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 15: and Lithuania, they are along with Poland in the NATO Alliance, 516 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 15: and all of them share borders with Russia. And they 517 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 15: basically have made it clear that they simply don't believe 518 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 15: that Vladimir Putin is satisfied with going into Ukraine. They 519 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 15: fear that their countries on that border will be the 520 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 15: next Now they are all currently signatories of something called 521 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 15: the Ottawa Treaty, and it's also known as the mine 522 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 15: ban Treaty. It came into effect at the end of 523 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 15: the last millennium nineteen ninety seven, and it really its 524 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 15: aim is to ban anti personnel minds, those aimed at 525 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 15: humans around the world. It's been signed by more than 526 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 15: one hundred and sixty countries, but China, India, Russia, Pakistan 527 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 15: and the US have never signed up to it. The 528 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 15: Baltic States are saying, actually, do you know what things 529 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 15: are changing? Security has deteriorated, things, risks have significantly increased, 530 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 15: So we're we're drawing from this treaty now awful weapons. 531 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 3: Gavin Gray, I, thank you new schalkz B. It's eleven 532 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,239 Speaker 3: to six, So the phone call that the world has 533 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 3: been waiting for has taken place, in acted just for this. 534 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: We have no details about what was discussed, if anything 535 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 3: was agreed, We know nothing at this point. But we 536 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 3: do know that Donald Trump, the United States President, put 537 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: forward his cease fireplay and for Ukraine to his Russian 538 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: counterpart of Vladimir Putin, and up until this point, Trump 539 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 3: has been very bullish about getting a deal, but Putin 540 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 3: has also said he has quote serious questions going into 541 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 3: the discussion. So to talk about this add more, I'm 542 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: joined by Otaga University International Relations professor Robert Patman. Hello, 543 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 3: Robert Oh, Hello, Robert, Hello, good morning, How are you 544 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 3: very good? All right? He's Trump been just a little 545 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 3: bit too bullish and confidence, thinking that Putin would just 546 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 3: roll over. 547 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 11: On his positive and certainly contrasts with that of Marco 548 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 11: Rubio and also other officials in the administration have been 549 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 11: much more mentioned. Mister Trump said had very positive expectations 550 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 11: of the phone call. We'll just have to see whether 551 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 11: those expectations translate into concrete results. 552 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 3: Yes, he easily intimidated Ukraine, but Letimia Putin's another thing altogether. 553 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 11: Well, he hasn't really put much pressure on mister Putin. 554 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 11: All the concessions have been from the victim of an invasion, 555 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 11: which is Ukraine, and he's already preemptively given away bold 556 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 11: in concessions to mister Putin. He said that he doesn't 557 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 11: envisage Ukraine joining NATO, which was a key demand of Russia. 558 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 11: And he also says that Ukraine will have to make 559 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 11: territorial concessions, it will have to give up some of 560 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 11: the land stolen by Russia. 561 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: All right, Well, Donald Trump always said this could be 562 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: resolved in wigs. 563 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 11: Well, that's clearly not true. And the other thing here 564 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 11: is mister Trump may not be in a position to 565 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 11: deliver any peace even if he gets agreement with mister 566 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 11: Putin because ultimately it's the victim of the invasion Ukraine 567 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 11: that must agree to this, and they're adamant that, you know, 568 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 11: they've lost too many people as a result of Russia's 569 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 11: incursion and invasion to settle for anything less than the 570 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 11: principles that everyone in national relations recognizes where she's full 571 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 11: territory integrity and restoration of state sovereignty. 572 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: What did you make of the fact that the Baltic 573 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 3: states want land minds back. 574 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 11: There's rising tension, yes, well, you see many countries in 575 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 11: europe An increasing in Germany as well, believe that Ukraine 576 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 11: is not This war is not just about Ukraine. It's 577 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 11: about stopping mister Putin from his expansionist vision of Russian 578 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 11: sphere of influence in Europe. And many countries fear that 579 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 11: if mister Trump hands mister Putin part of Ukraine as 580 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 11: part of a peace deal, then that will have ramifications 581 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 11: for other countries. Many are convinced, as your commentation just said, 582 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 11: that mister Booty won't stop with Ukraine. 583 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: All right, to the other issue, Wins Peters is meeting 584 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: Marco Rubio in about ten minutes time to talk stuff. 585 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 3: But I suppose he's really going to be talking tariffs 586 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 3: rather than peace. 587 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 11: Yes, and obviously we'll be looking to get some sort 588 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 11: of exemption from the tariffs that are being are going 589 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 11: to be announced i think in early April, against most 590 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 11: countries that export to the United States. I'm not confident 591 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 11: we will get an exemption because Australia wishes closest to 592 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 11: the United States than ourselves. It's already been indicated to them. 593 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 11: They won't be getting an exemption on Australian exports like 594 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 11: an Aminimum steel, and that could have been greeted by 595 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 11: considerable disappointment by the Australian government. The other thing here 596 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 11: is even if we do get an exemption, the resulting 597 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 11: trade war that's breaking out will affect New Zealand. We 598 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 11: trade more than one hundred country around the world, so 599 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 11: we may get some bilateral relief, but we'll probably have 600 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 11: some reverses on the multilateral front. 601 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 3: Okay, And of course we're worried. Winston's very worried about 602 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 3: security in the Pacific, So will he push that or. 603 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 11: Yes, Well, I think mister Peters, to his credit, has 604 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 11: consistently argued the US should be more engaged in the Pacific, 605 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 11: and that message finally seemed to register with the Biden administration, 606 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 11: who stepped up their engagement in the region. However, the 607 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 11: Trump administration with their disestablishment of USIAID and also their 608 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 11: withdrawal from the Paris Climate Accord. Remember, for most Pacific 609 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 11: island nation states, climate changes their number one national security concern. 610 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 11: Those issues raised questions about how committed is the Trump 611 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 11: administration to the fate and the well being of the 612 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 11: Pacific island nations, and that in turn means that China 613 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 11: may have much greater scope to extend its influence than 614 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 11: previously yep sorgo. 615 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,959 Speaker 3: What a great time to be an international relations professor 616 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 3: Robert Patman. I thank you for your time. 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