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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the ones

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Speaker 1: with worldwide connections that before not a promise.

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Speaker 2: It is nineteen minutes away from six now, Jack Tame,

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Speaker 2: host of Saturday Mornings here on ZB and Q and

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Speaker 2: A's with us Hey Jack Hey right, and Tricius and

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Speaker 2: Cheus and Willis pr Hi Trish Hi Ryan. Now what

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Speaker 2: do we start with? Maybe the Maori Party and Judge

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Speaker 2: Judy Who's and the Maori Party now saying Trish that

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Speaker 2: they're going to have a separate which is not a

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Speaker 2: legal process or anything. It's just for a pr purposes,

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Speaker 2: but they have a separate trial almost on in May.

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Speaker 2: To respond to this, what do we make of all

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Speaker 2: of this?

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Speaker 3: I think it's an absolute waste of time and energy

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Speaker 3: in Parliament when there are a lot of very big

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Speaker 3: things to be focused on. The point about Parliament is this.

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Speaker 3: It is a rules based system. It's like a court.

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Speaker 3: The rules are very clear and if you go to

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Speaker 3: parliam in my view, you sign up to those rules,

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Speaker 3: and in particular the Privileges Committee. I mean, I remember

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Speaker 3: when I first went to Parliament. I don't know, this

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Speaker 3: is twenty five years ago. To work there, you know,

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Speaker 3: to be hauled before the Privileges Committee was a very

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Speaker 3: rare thing. Mpace took it extremely seriously because you need

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Speaker 3: to and it's and it's Parliament's way of having real

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Speaker 3: checks and balances on behavior in the House. So I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, to party Maori have to really get with

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Speaker 3: the program here in Parliament and follow the rules.

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Speaker 2: But clearly they're not. And I mean they even said

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Speaker 2: today they said, oh, look I don't care what the

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Speaker 2: consequences are, so Jack, do you, I mean, what about

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Speaker 2: this idea from David Seymour that if they don't come,

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Speaker 2: you dock their pay.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's my understanding that it is actually their right

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Speaker 4: to what not to attend the Privileges Committee hearing. So

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Speaker 4: they don't. They're not at this stage at the very least,

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Speaker 4: they're not compelled to go to the Privileges Committee. And

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Speaker 4: they have the other instances in which MPs haven't attended,

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Speaker 4: although usually they those MPs have made submissions. You know,

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Speaker 4: I've said this before on the huddle. We just have

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Speaker 4: to remember it. This is exactly what these MPs want.

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Speaker 4: The more that people half and half and stomp their

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Speaker 4: feet and say these guys are breaking the rules, the

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Speaker 4: happier they will be. They are activists. They are not

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Speaker 4: legislators at the stage. They don't put forward you know,

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Speaker 4: carefully worded bills or you know, or pieces of legislation

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Speaker 4: that that have gone through you know, careful drafting processes.

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Speaker 4: They are agitators, professional agitators. And the more that many

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Speaker 4: of us half and half and stomp our feed, the

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Speaker 4: happier their supporters will be because they will feel like

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Speaker 4: these MPs are going in there and to what they

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Speaker 4: think is sometimes a racist institution and pulling the fingers

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Speaker 4: to the system, and that's exactly.

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Speaker 1: What they want.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think you make a good point, but I think

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Speaker 2: the words you use professional protesters. If you take away

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Speaker 2: the money, Trish, then they're just protesters. And then do

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Speaker 2: they turn.

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Speaker 3: Up well, well, I'm thinking should I pull back on

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Speaker 3: my huffing and puffing stock, Well, we'll putting a lot

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Speaker 3: of energy into it. Well, and this is this is

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Speaker 3: a decision for them because Parliament is not you know,

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Speaker 3: I often worry about this myself watching where Parliament is going,

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Speaker 3: that there are MP's in the house on the fringes who,

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Speaker 3: it seems to me, turn up there to make social

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Speaker 3: media clips rather than turning up to make legislation. And

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Speaker 3: I think what we're the sort of performative stuff today

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Speaker 4: It's interesting like this is this is the polarization of

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Speaker 4: politics in real time, right that the parties on the

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Speaker 4: fringes always benefit when they're seen to be fighting each other.

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Speaker 4: So as much as to Party Maudi will be loving

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Speaker 4: the attention they're getting today, Dave Seymour will equally be

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Speaker 4: loving the attention that slamming to Party Mardi gives him.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's really important to remember that even

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Speaker 4: though there are really strict rules that govern both the

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Speaker 4: Standing Orders in the House and the Privileges Committee, to

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Speaker 4: Party Mahori does have an avenue through which they can

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Speaker 4: submit to the rules. So if indeed they think and

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Speaker 4: we think that in modern New Zealand there should be

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Speaker 4: a space for hakker and greater acknowledgment of tekung and

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Speaker 4: that kind of thing in Parliament, there is a process

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Speaker 4: by which you can contribute to changing the rules to

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Speaker 4: allow for that kind of thing. So far, we haven't

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Speaker 4: gone through that. So far, the rules state that hakker

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Speaker 4: and that kind of thing are aren't allowed in parliament.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, like I say, it benefits all of the

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Speaker 4: parties on the fringes of this when they're seen to

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Speaker 4: be fighting over this stuff. It's just read meat to

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Speaker 4: the base.

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Speaker 2: Jack Time Trusherson on the huddle.

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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty achieve extraordinary

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Speaker 2: Jack Time Trusherson on the Huddle tonight. So more than

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Speaker 2: half of us regret our career choice. This is, according

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Speaker 2: to new data today by Seek mainly due to insufficient

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Speaker 2: earnings and a lot of us don't realize until it's

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Speaker 2: too late in life.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Trush you obviously past that point now, But if you

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Speaker 2: could have your time again, would you peck a different career.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to overlook the little barb in there, Ryan,

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Speaker 3: but I well, I have I have changed career in

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Speaker 3: in my lifetime, my extended lifetime.

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Speaker 4: So I went.

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Speaker 3: I started as a journalist, went into working as a

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Speaker 3: press sect in parliament. Then I went back to journalism,

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Speaker 3: and then I went back to the kind of work

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Speaker 3: that I do now in corporate affairs. I absolutely love

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Speaker 3: what I do. I think every day what a privilege.

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Speaker 3: You never know who's going to ring what you need

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Speaker 3: to learn, and I have never regretted it for a moment.

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Speaker 2: Jack, What about you?

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Speaker 4: Do? You know what I have done that really weird

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Speaker 4: thing that everyone used to do one hundred years ago

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Speaker 4: and no one does anymore, And that I've be with

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Speaker 4: the same company for like coming up twenty years now,

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Speaker 4: which is crazy I started with I know, I started

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Speaker 4: with one company when I was nineteen and I'm now

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Speaker 4: thirty eight. So yeah, it doesn't happen that much anymore.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't change my job. I absolutely love my job. However,

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Speaker 4: given the state of our industry, Ryan, I do think

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Speaker 4: about possible second and third careers. And the curious thing

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Speaker 4: for me is that when I started in the job,

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Speaker 4: you know, I never had any hesitation in going out

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Speaker 4: and recommending it to other people. But now when I'm

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Speaker 4: asked to speak at universities and journalism schools and that

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Speaker 4: kind of thing, I always feel like I need to

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Speaker 4: caveat everything I say by saying, look, it's a great job,

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Speaker 4: you have amazing experiences, meet interesting people, et cetera, et cetera,

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Speaker 4: et cetera. You're not going to make any money and

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Speaker 4: your job security absolutely sucks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good to be honest, Jack. I remember Bernard

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Speaker 2: Heckey came to our journalism school in Wellington and he

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Speaker 2: said exactly. He was really honest. He said. Now he said,

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Speaker 2: it'll be fun, but you'll be made redundant at least once.

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Speaker 2: And I alay, want to think. Up until last year,

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Speaker 2: I thought, oh, well he was wrong about one thing,

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Speaker 2: and then boom and it comes so no very good.

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Speaker 3: My daughter is doing her communications degree and when she

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Speaker 3: chose that, which is what I did, I was laughing

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Speaker 3: and I said, oh, why do you want to do that?

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Speaker 3: And she said, cheeky monkey and she said, oh, so

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Speaker 3: I can have big Gill money. And I said, oh,

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Speaker 3: what do you do when you have big Gill money?

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Speaker 3: She says, you have recurring hair appointments.

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Speaker 4: So there's something.

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Speaker 2: Well there you go. Everyone just go and do pr

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Speaker 2: Thanks Trish and thanks Jack. Nice to have you guys on.

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