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Speaker 1: Mike the Mic asking breakfast with the Jaguar f base

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Speaker 1: cut from a different cloth News togs FB.

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Speaker 2: Will you welcome today Marco Rudio's man, Mattterrell Dock in

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Speaker 2: the program with the Big Debate, the letter from the

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Speaker 2: athletes to fix the transgender funding issues met, and next

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Speaker 2: they're looking the downscale. So there's more jobs for you,

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Speaker 2: Graham Norton than for a catch up after it it

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Speaker 2: look forward to it. Jose and Italy Rod does the

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Speaker 2: business from the Mighty UK for us, asking welcome to

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Speaker 2: Thursday morning, seven past six. So the big question is

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Speaker 2: if you entered the debate tired as the pole suggests,

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Speaker 2: did whatever that unfolded move the needle? I say no,

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Speaker 2: I can't help, but wonder if in time they will

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Speaker 2: see these two debates if in fact these two debates

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Speaker 2: are as formatically a mistake. Essentially, it's an interview where

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Speaker 2: the interviewer never follows up. You get a question, you

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Speaker 2: whitter on for two minutes, saying whatever you want. A

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Speaker 2: rebuttals allowed more wittering than another question. The closest we

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Speaker 2: got to anyone being told or held to account. Was

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Speaker 2: when Trump claimed babies were taken away to be killed.

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Speaker 2: One of the moderators said that there is no state

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Speaker 2: where that is law, which of course is true. Apart

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Speaker 2: from that, Trump was Trump, Harris was Harris, and I'm

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Speaker 2: glad I'm not American and have to choose between the two.

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Speaker 2: And I think if I was American, I would fit

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Speaker 2: into the undecided category, the undecided being I don't know

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Speaker 2: whether I could bring myself to vote for either of them.

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Speaker 2: Trump's best points were around the Harris record, which is

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Speaker 2: the Biden record. At no point has she differentiated herself

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Speaker 2: from her current boss. So if you're not happy with

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Speaker 2: the direction of travel, which Paul Show people aren't, then

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Speaker 2: she isn't changing your mind. If you're a Democrat and

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Speaker 2: you worried about Biden and his age, she is at

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Speaker 2: least younger and more alert and sharper and can speak.

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Speaker 2: But that's also the problem. She doesn't say anything. But

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Speaker 2: as I suggested the other day, maybe that doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you're voting on vibes because that's all she's seemingly selling.

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Speaker 2: As for Trump, he's insane. He repeats the record of

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen through twenty twenty as a golden period of

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Speaker 2: perfection and jubilation, the likes of which the world has

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Speaker 2: never seen. His weakest point was when he was asked

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Speaker 2: about Obamacare. He didn't like it, even though he kept it,

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Speaker 2: but had some ideas about a plan that wasn't formed

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Speaker 2: yet going forward and would let us know when he

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Speaker 2: had them finalized. It's as close as I have ever

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Speaker 2: seen him to being completely and utterly stumped. The moderators

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Speaker 2: could have been AI generated, the lack of audience reaction

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Speaker 2: interaction closed Mike's killed it. It was not what it

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Speaker 2: could have been won, No one lost, nothing changed.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: As I say, if you were a Republican, you saw

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Speaker 2: it one way. Even if you're a daughter in law,

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Speaker 2: I think you had a fine night.

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Speaker 3: I think this was a night that was absolutely necessary

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Speaker 3: and I am so happy we finally got to see

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Speaker 3: these two people on a stage.

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Speaker 4: Or if you're a Democrat, I thought Carma Harris said

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Speaker 4: a great name, and I think she showed Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: to be a rambling, confused man who was focused on

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Speaker 4: dividing us as opposed to bringing people together.

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Speaker 2: Or indeed, if you're right in the middle of it.

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Speaker 5: The polls are saying that I was I won that

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Speaker 5: by eighty twenty ninety. We have one here ninety two

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have any polls. Some watching at home tweeted

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 6: I'm voting for the Kamala Harris because she fights for

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Speaker 6: the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion.

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Speaker 7: She signs off as Taylor Swift, childless cat lady.

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Speaker 2: Then in the UK Capital of Things one day, let

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Speaker 2: a lot of people go at Port Tullbertiver Night told

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Speaker 2: you about this yesterday and another blow to the steel industry.

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Speaker 8: Tata's employees and now able to express an interest in

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Speaker 8: the most generous voluntary redundancy package the company has ever

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Speaker 8: offered for a restructuring of this size, And of the

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Speaker 8: two thousand members of staff have expressed that interest in

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Speaker 8: voluntary redundancy.

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Speaker 2: So that makes it okay then and too an inquiry

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Speaker 2: has been announced into the killing of a lawyer during

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Speaker 2: the troubles back in the eighties.

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Speaker 3: The plain fact is that two decades on the commitment

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Speaker 3: made by the government to this House to establish an

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Speaker 3: inquiry and to the death of mister Finukan remains unfulfilled.

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Speaker 2: Finally, MELLIGAP looking to crack down on tourists behaving badly.

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Speaker 2: They've been already, but particularly we got the palms on

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Speaker 2: cheap flights and they get a bit wayward. One particular

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Speaker 2: issue appears to be tourists walking around naked. So the

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Speaker 2: campaign to get people to put clothes on has begun.

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Speaker 2: They've started with a sign. The sign says dress completely.

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Speaker 2: There are other science. One says don't shout or turn

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Speaker 2: up the volume of your music. Cool place, let's use

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Speaker 2: the world in buzz kills in ninety little economic news

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Speaker 2: for you. The UK is going nowhere. At least they're

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Speaker 2: not going backwards. I suppose flat line for July forecast

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Speaker 2: down zero point eight, construction down zero point four. Better

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Speaker 2: news in America CPI zero point two for August. That's

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Speaker 2: America out two and a half percent. So there's set.

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Speaker 2: So that means the I'm assuming the feeders go twelve

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Speaker 2: past six.

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Speaker 2: If you follow the money, Trump Media, which owns truth

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Speaker 2: social crash this morning badly. It had been going up

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Speaker 2: prior to the debate. This morning it fell apart, indicating

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Speaker 2: Trump lost. Fourteen past six. Oh my gosh, Jim Jay,

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Speaker 2: am My Wealth, Andrew Keller her, good morning, Good MONI Mike.

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Speaker 2: So Contact wants MANUWAH and the regulators I'm assuming are

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Speaker 2: going to be involved in that's a work us through

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Speaker 9: Yes, So we had announced me yesterday that Contact has

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Speaker 9: entered into agreement to buy Manowa Energy. So everybody probably

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Speaker 9: recognizes her contactors well known, well recognized power generation from retailer.

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Speaker 9: Manawa might not be as recognizable, but I think people

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Speaker 9: out there may recognize their previous name.

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Speaker 10: Of Trust Power.

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Speaker 9: So before we talk about the details, I think you

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Speaker 9: of timing of this announcement that you're going to take

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Speaker 9: a large incumbent in generation and make it bigger at

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Speaker 9: a time when the cost of electricity is very much

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Speaker 9: front and center and plenty of debate over the impact

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Speaker 9: users to be able to be internationally competitive.

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Speaker 10: So it's quite a tricky time to bring this deal

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Speaker 9: Just looking at the deal, Contact has entered into what

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Speaker 9: we call a scheme of arrangement to buy one hundred

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Speaker 9: percent of Manawa. As I said, Manawah is a renewable

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Speaker 9: energy generator. It's got twenty five hydro schemes around New Zealand,

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Speaker 9: so that's about five hundred megawats of generation capacity. But

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Speaker 9: very importantly, it's got an awful lot of development options

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Speaker 9: in wind and solar.

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Speaker 10: Now, looking at.

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Speaker 9: This deal from Contact point of view, they say they're

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Speaker 9: going to end up with a more diversified, more resilient

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Speaker 9: business they argue will be more efficient. Manawa shareholders will

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Speaker 9: get a combination of cash and Contact shares.

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Speaker 10: Now just under eighty percent.

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Speaker 9: Of Manua is owned by two entities, are Infantil and

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Speaker 9: the what's called TECT which is the tit on a

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Speaker 10: They have plenty community trust.

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Speaker 9: They are both backing the deal, so you know it's

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Speaker 9: pretty much going to go.

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Speaker 10: Just a few comments there's a few interesting aspects of

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Speaker 10: the deal.

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Speaker 9: Infantal They don't have an ESCRA on their Contact shares,

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Speaker 9: which is often the case in these deals, so they

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Speaker 9: could sell them whenever they want to. But they're putting

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Speaker 9: an inviti rep onto the Contact board and they are

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Speaker 9: talking a long game.

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Speaker 10: In terms of that position. Just look at the Mnuwa

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Speaker 10: development projects.

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Speaker 9: These obviously would require funding now that may be more

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Speaker 9: achievable under Contact ownership. I think there's now going to

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Speaker 9: be questions as to how they will fund those. Contact

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Speaker 9: argue there are.

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Speaker 10: Synergies between the two companies.

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Speaker 9: It's effectively priced at five dollars ninety five for a

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Speaker 9: share from a Manowa point of view, that is a

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Speaker 9: very healthy premium to the last close of the Maniwa

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Speaker 9: share price. Contact will keep their credit rating, that's important. Yes,

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Speaker 9: you're right, the COMMAS Commission does need to approve the deal.

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Speaker 9: Contact points out that Manuwa hydro assets are complementary to

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Speaker 9: context existing hydro ass that's because Manawas are winter weighted.

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Speaker 9: Contacts are summer weighted. That's to do with rain as

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Speaker 9: opposed to summer snow melt. So they say that will

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Speaker 9: allow for more consistent supply and hopefully consistent pricing.

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Speaker 10: If we look at how.

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Speaker 9: Did the market gauge this while the Contact share price

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Speaker 9: fell to the three percent, I think analyst will have

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Speaker 10: Will get more commentary on that today. But the Manawas share.

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Speaker 9: Price up thirty three percent yesterday recognizing that premium.

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Speaker 10: So fascinating stuff, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I reckon interesting politically. Migration more people, Yeah.

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Speaker 10: They are.

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Speaker 9: It's very important in the context of the current economic

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Speaker 9: recent economic landscape, and consistent with recent months, we're seeing

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Speaker 9: this migration impulse moderating, so there are fewer people coming.

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Speaker 9: The raw number five thy three hundred seasonally adjust that's

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Speaker 9: for the month, seasonally just to probably around three thousand

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Speaker 9: next few months, but the annual inflow now it's sixty seven,

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Speaker 9: and back in October twenty three we're just under one

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Speaker 9: hundred and forty thousand, one hundred and thirty seven. So

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Speaker 9: now back to levels we saw in early twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 9: we're seeing fewer foreign arrivals. That's probably reflecting the calling

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Speaker 9: labor market. You do need to think about the implications

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Speaker 9: across a range of areas. Economic growth has always been

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Speaker 9: flattered by increasing population. Population increase will now be moderating.

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Speaker 9: That does suggest lower growth the labor market. People coming

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Speaker 9: in had increased that pool of labor. That's not happening

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Speaker 9: to the same degree now. And one thing that's not

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Speaker 9: been talked about a lot recently, Mike, I think this

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Speaker 9: is going to come back front and sent shortly. Government finances.

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Speaker 9: It's really fallen off the radar. Fewer people coming in.

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Speaker 9: That means lower tax take. That's not good. Just quick note,

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Speaker 9: tourism looks like still the numbers are in. The estate

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Speaker 9: looks like it's plateauing. If you want to draw a

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Speaker 9: line from that back to the OCR and interest rates.

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Speaker 10: This moderating migration.

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Speaker 9: Probably supported sports the case for further OCR cuts.

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Speaker 2: All right, one of them.

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Speaker 9: The US markets have handled that CPI number, they've handled

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Speaker 9: the debate, and they're now sort of mixed. The Dow

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Speaker 9: joneses down one hundred and thirty five points, which about

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Speaker 9: a thirty percent forty thousand, six hundred and three, But

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Speaker 9: the S and P five hundred and NASDAK are both up.

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Speaker 9: The S and P five hundred up a quarter percent

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Speaker 9: bouncing back up over one percent seventeen thy.

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Speaker 10: Two hundred elevens up one hundred and eighty five points.

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Speaker 11: As we're meeting here today, we're again seeing Putin dust

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Speaker 11: I wanted the pet shop to buy one of those

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Speaker 13: Hurts, But the only hurt's going to need disobeys. People

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Speaker 7: Hate my kids. Fuck as well come out and saying nope,

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Speaker 7: I could have been a movie star like Kim Novak

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Speaker 2: and possibly the exposure and leading on to greatness. Netflix,

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Speaker 2: Got to episode two. It's getting better and wasn't bad

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Speaker 2: You go into Briscos and you buy everything, don't you.

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Speaker 2: That's why they're doing so well. How come they're doing

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Speaker 2: Togs Head been he was always going to happen, of course,

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Speaker 2: None of that was complicated. How come if you can

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Speaker 14: Look, I guess they've founded mark position that they think

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Speaker 2: So is this the bottom? Economically speaking? Do you reckon

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Speaker 15: Well, we're happy.

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Speaker 2: And so as do you directly link your business and

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Speaker 2: So you've been around a while. Where is this period

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Speaker 2: Is there a variation within your group as to how

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Speaker 14: We have two businesses, one which is described as discretionary,

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Speaker 14: The house with business is basically a house of staples.

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Speaker 14: when they wear out or break down and you've sort

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Speaker 14: With sporting goods, it's one of those discretionary items that

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Speaker 14: Well, oddly enough, the rangers within Rebel that is a

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Speaker 14: It does. We have found for a considerable amount of

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Speaker 2: Now right, tell me hand on heart, honestly, because I

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if we will or repeat this.

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Speaker 2: Then you go and do it. Are you toying with us?

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Speaker 17: Rod?

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Speaker 14: I don't want to hide an expectation.

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Speaker 2: Might fair enough to so you underpromise over deliver as

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Speaker 14: It's not a bad policy.

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Speaker 2: Very good. Nice to see Rod, Duke, who is the

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Speaker 2: Briscoes Group managing director, eighteen minutes away from seven tasky.

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Speaker 2: So when you lose the debate, what you do is

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Speaker 2: you ring fox the.

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Speaker 5: Next day I won the debate according to c Span,

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Speaker 5: by a lot, According to every single I think we

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Speaker 5: me whinning. We had a terrible, terrible network.

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Speaker 4: I think they were terrible.

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Speaker 16: They should be embarrassed.

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Speaker 5: I mean they kept correcting me, and what I said

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Speaker 2: I mean, as low all you can do is hope

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Speaker 2: that what you said about eating cats and dogs. I

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Speaker 2: think her face gave it away. That c SPAN poll,

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Speaker 2: by the way, was conducted on xso not really a poll.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen to two.

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Speaker 2: It be just quickly before I forget Lemmy was with

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Speaker 2: Blinking moment Ago told you about the war. The UK

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Speaker 2: also announced that all flights out of a run into

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Speaker 2: the UK off so more sanctioned so to speak. Mike,

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Speaker 2: come on, Briscos does well because of Tammy, as in

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Speaker 2: the Briscos Lady, which is a very good question, who's

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Speaker 2: better Brisco's lady or Tina From Turena's fourteen Away from seven.

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Speaker 12: International correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance Peace of mind

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Speaker 12: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: This all was Joe perm Italy, Joe Morning, good money.

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Speaker 5: Mike.

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Speaker 2: What's pre looking like? Just just just talk me through

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Speaker 2: it visually.

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Speaker 18: Well, it's looking very overcrowded, as we've talked about before,

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Speaker 18: an abundance of tourists pouring off the fairies. And I

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Speaker 18: might say I was charged twenty two New Zealand dollars

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Speaker 18: today for a non alcoholic lemon granita, and I refuse.

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Speaker 2: To pay as true as you should have.

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Speaker 19: That's where it's going on this island.

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Speaker 2: She's twenty two dollars for a lemon granita. By the way,

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Speaker 2: this business of the tax and the declining birth rate

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Speaker 2: and if you live at home with mama and all

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Speaker 2: that sort of stuff, how are they going to pay

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Speaker 2: for that?

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Speaker 19: Yeah?

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Speaker 18: Well, the Economy Minister, John Carlo Grigetti is looking ways

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Speaker 18: to cut taxes.

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Speaker 19: They're still worried.

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Speaker 18: About keeping the Italian voters happy, particularly because we're going

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Speaker 18: into some regional elections later in the year. He wants

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Speaker 18: to cut taxes for parents with children who are economically

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Speaker 18: dependent on them in the upcoming budget.

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Speaker 19: Now, Italy's delaying.

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Speaker 18: The presentation of its due budget plan until next month,

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Speaker 18: missing the European Union September deadline, because the Italians are

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Speaker 18: still fiddling with what they want to do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, hey, listen, we haven't talked since San Juliani, the

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Speaker 2: coach of minister. He was on television over the weekend crying.

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Speaker 2: Was he really crying when he quit?

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Speaker 18: He had a few tears, I think. But he's in

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Speaker 18: a bit of trouble. They're looking at investigating him for

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Speaker 18: wrongdoing and for sharing state secrets. And the woman at

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Speaker 18: the center of the scandal is milking social media and

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Speaker 18: TV interviews to.

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Speaker 19: Raise her profile.

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Speaker 18: So there we are in the land of the new

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Speaker 18: generation social media, which has really had a big impact

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Speaker 18: on this sex scandal.

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Speaker 2: These health workers and the assaults on doctors and nurses.

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Speaker 2: What's driving what? What's going on?

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Speaker 18: Well, this has been described as a national emergency across Italy.

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Speaker 19: We've seen several attacks in.

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Speaker 18: The southern city of Five in Pullia, and there've also

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Speaker 18: been attacks in Turin and Naples in recent months. And

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Speaker 18: their latest attack doctors and nurses were barricading themselves inside

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Speaker 18: a room inside the hospital. A young woman had died,

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Speaker 18: and angry relatives were trying to break the doors down

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Speaker 18: and attack these doctors and nurses. So a huge surge

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Speaker 18: in violence, and people are very nervous. They're feeling underpainted, underpaid,

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Speaker 18: and overworked and really demanding more attention from the authorities

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Speaker 18: and in this case, demanding that the ny be sent

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Speaker 18: in unreal.

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Speaker 2: So the Vatican Bank had are they a lauren to

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Speaker 2: themselves or do they operate under Italian law?

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Speaker 19: I think it's a bit of both.

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Speaker 18: I mean, we know the Vatican is a separate stage,

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Speaker 18: and in recent years they've overhauled the Vatican Bank to

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Speaker 18: keep it in line with more international regulations.

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Speaker 19: But this is a very quirky thing.

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Speaker 18: The Vatican Bank is now in a new controversy a

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Speaker 18: to decreeing that two employees, if they fall in love

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Speaker 18: and want to get married, one of them must resign.

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Speaker 18: And it's been dubbed the Romeo and Juliet case by

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Speaker 18: the Catholic press. Because we have a couple who are

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Speaker 18: in that situation right now. They have written to the Pope.

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Speaker 18: They're appealing for his intervention and it just seems like

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Speaker 18: a very strange thing to anybody watching from the outside.

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Speaker 2: I think I reckon. Speaking of the Pope, is he

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Speaker 2: seems to be up for it. I mean, he's in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the Pacific and wandering around and the

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Speaker 2: crowds are coming out, and are you getting a lot

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Speaker 2: of coverage with that back in Italy?

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Speaker 18: Huge coverage, huge international coverage, a lot of interest also

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Speaker 18: from the Americans, and a big trip to these countries.

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Speaker 18: As we know, he's now in Singapore on his way

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Speaker 18: home tomorrow, one of the biggest, if not the longest

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Speaker 18: trip that he's done in his pontificate and part of

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Speaker 18: his whole program to reach out.

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Speaker 2: Because the upside of that, surely for a bloke who's

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Speaker 2: not well allegedly, I mean, that's some pretty serious travel.

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Speaker 18: Is I mean, it'll be interesting to see Mike what

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Speaker 18: sort of toile it takes on his health in the

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Speaker 18: long term, because he looks so much older and obviously

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Speaker 18: traveling around most of the time in a wheelchair, so

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Speaker 18: people are really keeping a close eye on his health

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Speaker 18: right now.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I've got to text from somebody the other day.

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Speaker 2: Can you still get it? Is it a euro or two? Euro.

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Speaker 2: Stand up espresso in the morning at a cafe, is

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Speaker 2: it a two euros something like that?

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Speaker 18: Still, well, when you come to Rome, I'm going to

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Speaker 18: take you to my local coffee shop where you can

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Speaker 18: get one for one euro.

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Speaker 19: But I'm noticing now.

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Speaker 18: Across the country you can spend up to one fifty

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Speaker 18: for just a basic espresso, and then it goes up

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Speaker 18: to two fifty for your cappuccinos.

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Speaker 19: So people are milking it.

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Speaker 2: So to speak. Now, I see you, Joe, You and

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Speaker 2: Joe Capri. We'll catch up next week.

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Speaker 19: Thanks mate.

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Speaker 2: John McKenna in Italy for us this morning at nine

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Speaker 2: to seven.

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Speaker 1: The Myke costume Breakfast with the Jaguar Enmyse news talks.

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Speaker 2: Edby Speaking of travelers, Joe was a moment Ago and

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Speaker 2: the tourist Indonesia I note yesterday announced to morrow Torium

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Speaker 2: on construction of hotels, villas and nightclubs in Bali. They're

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Speaker 2: trying desperately to reform tourism that's out of control on

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Speaker 2: that particular part of the world. About two hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: foreigners live in Bali these days, and they say that

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Speaker 2: they're contributing to the crime and the over development and

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Speaker 2: the competition for jobs, and since arriving in Bali, the

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Speaker 2: arrivals have surged post but you know, I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: we got the tourism numbers yesterday. It's still amnemic here,

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Speaker 2: but you've got two point nine million visitors in the

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Speaker 2: first half of this year alone. Sixty five percent of

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Speaker 2: total foreign arrivals Indonesia into Indonesia by year are go

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Speaker 2: to Ballei. So they've got a moratorium on new builds

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Then you looked at Melbourne yesterday.

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Speaker 2: You see Melbourne, mean, what a disgrace five minutes away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 7: And the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business Faber, take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: What I did like is the approach being taken by

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Speaker 2: the police, which seemed to be relatively hard line. Are

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Speaker 2: housing datably this morning core Logic. They're mapping the market data.

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Speaker 2: Over the year, half of the suburbs in this country

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Speaker 2: had a meaningful value increased good But more recently the

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Speaker 2: last three months you're seeing a slow down, particularly Aukland, Wellington,

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Speaker 2: Napian Nelson. Since June six hundred and seventy four suburbs

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Speaker 2: have seen property values drop about twenty five percent of

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Speaker 2: those dropping by at least two percent. Auckland, ninety four

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Speaker 2: percent of suburbs have dropped in the last three months.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me. Eighty percent of Hamilton's are down. Seventeen of

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Speaker 2: twenty in Towering are down in the last quarter. Papama

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Speaker 2: is down by three point one. Seventy seven percent of

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Speaker 2: Wellington's are down, vast majority by at least a percent.

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Speaker 2: The most expensive suburb these days see two at one

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Speaker 2: point seventy six. Christ Jurich. Initially quite good before this quarter.

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Speaker 2: This quarter only three of eighty four suburbs went down,

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Speaker 2: but now fifty two in the last three months, so

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Speaker 2: it was looking good, started to fall apart. So you've

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Speaker 2: got a trend there. Dunedin, half the suburbs are down.

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Speaker 2: Eight suburbs though around the country with double digit growth

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Speaker 2: in the past year. Stand by for a twenty two

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Speaker 2: point six percent increase in value and you got it

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Speaker 2: Cobden and a fifteen point nine percent increase in that's right, Blaketown.

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Speaker 2: So the gray district is Hamming Arrowtown also doing very nicely.

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Speaker 2: The fifth most expensive suburb in the country. Now why

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Speaker 2: wouldn't it be, I mean, when was last time you

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Speaker 2: went to Arrowtown and did anything other than go, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, how beautiful is this place? Anyway, average price

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Speaker 2: of a place in Narrowtown is two point four to

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Speaker 2: five million dollars. And that's why you take your pen

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Speaker 2: and go down to the river and shuffle for gold

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Speaker 2: to pay for your mortgage. Graham Norton after right, look

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Speaker 2: forward to the catch up there. Marca Ruby's man Matt

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Speaker 2: Terrell is back with us to break down the debate

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Speaker 2: last night and what we got out of that and

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Speaker 2: the transgender letter from the former Olympians and athletes to

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Speaker 2: the sports Minister Chris Bishop. Is he going to do

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Speaker 2: something about it?

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Speaker 1: We'll ask him the Breakfast Show You Can Trust, the

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way,

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Speaker 2: I'm wanting a seven past seven So to the debate

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Speaker 2: one Net poll Gay But the Harris might be because of

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Speaker 2: this sort of thing in Springfield.

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Speaker 5: They're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're

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Speaker 5: eating the cats, they're eating they're eating the pets.

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Speaker 2: It was a protic device. It probably didn't help the

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Speaker 2: marks that went on. Now this is the possibility apparently

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Speaker 2: of another Marca Rubya's former chief of staff, Matt Terrell,

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Speaker 2: is back with this Matt, morning to you.

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Speaker 20: Hey, great to be with you.

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Speaker 2: And did it move the needle?

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Speaker 20: You know, I don't think so. I think what to

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Speaker 20: see in the polling, and I'll take some time, but

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Speaker 20: I don't think this debate actually is gonna make or

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Speaker 20: break this election. I don't think it moved the needle much.

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Speaker 20: Obviously there was missed opportunities by former President Trump last night.

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Speaker 20: But with that said, I'm not so sure, at least

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Speaker 20: in my view, that Vice President Harris necessarily acomplished which

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Speaker 20: she need to accomplished last night. But today's are lays

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Speaker 20: to movie voters in her direction on key issues such

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Speaker 20: as the economy. You know, the economy's going to really

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Speaker 20: drive this elections and number one issue of voters care about.

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Speaker 20: If look at the polling for President Trumpet actually increased

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Speaker 20: his favorability on that issue after the debate in comparison

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Speaker 20: to post pre debate. So look, at the end of

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Speaker 20: the day, I think this is gonna be a race

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Speaker 20: that comes down to the issues. We'll see how that

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Speaker 20: takes shape in time will tell.

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Speaker 2: How does she differentiate herself from Biden and why hasn't

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Speaker 2: she Well.

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Speaker 20: It's a challenge, and why she hasn't is because it's

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Speaker 20: hard to do in the sense that this has been

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Speaker 20: the Biden Harris administration. You know, look, at the end

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Speaker 20: of the day, she's been a second command in this

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Speaker 20: administration and right now, voters are concerned and frustrated with

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Speaker 20: where inflation is bad. You've had nearly roughly twenty percent

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Speaker 20: inflation almost over the roughly past four years that the

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Speaker 20: Biden Harris administration has been in office. You've seen skyrocking

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Speaker 20: crossings at the border. The economy, inflation, border security will

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Speaker 20: be the top issues they are going to drive this race.

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Speaker 20: And to your point, in terms of separating herself from

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Speaker 20: the Biden administration, whence the Biden Harris administration that this

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Speaker 20: has been over the past roughly four years, that's almost

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Speaker 20: an impossible task. You saw her trying to do some

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Speaker 20: of that throughout this campaign, but voters know that she's

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Speaker 20: been in office, she's been an incumbent, and it's hard

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Speaker 20: to move off these issues.

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Speaker 2: Is it possible she could feel or her team could

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Speaker 2: feel this morning that she can win this thing just

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Speaker 20: Well, look, I think some of that works with the

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Speaker 20: political bases, namely, for example, the Democrat base. I think

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Speaker 20: they're fired up for Vice President Harris. I think the

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Speaker 20: GOP base is fired up for Foreign President Trump. I

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Speaker 20: think the political bases are going to turn out. I

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Speaker 20: think this election comes down to low propensity voters and

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Speaker 20: just those handful of independent and undecided voters. At the

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Speaker 20: end of the day, it's going to be roughly forty

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Speaker 20: five thousand voters, maybe one hundred thousand voters at the most.

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Speaker 20: They're going to decide this race. And what do they

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Speaker 20: care about. They care about the issues. They don't care

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Speaker 20: about personalities or vibes. They care about inflation, border security,

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Speaker 20: the economy, and right now, Foreign President Trump is pulling

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Speaker 20: quite well on those issues. He's actually doing better on

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Speaker 20: those issues than Vice President Harris. At the end of

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Speaker 20: the day, you might have voters out there saying, you

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Speaker 20: know what, I don't agree with former President Trump on everything.

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Speaker 20: I don't agree with every social media posts, for every

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Speaker 20: comment he made during the debate or on the campaign trail,

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Speaker 20: But I greath mind those issues and I may vote

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Speaker 20: for them based on those issues. I think a lot

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Speaker 20: of voters may do that. But if we have to

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Speaker 20: four present trumpet then in a day to win them over.

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Speaker 2: Always good to have you on the program. Matp preciate

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Speaker 2: it very much. Matt Tyrell, who is Marco Rubio's former

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Speaker 2: chief of staff, let's bring it back home ten minutes

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Speaker 2: past seven, asking more detail to day apparently on the

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Speaker 2: government's health targets fiber unveiled back in March. If you remember,

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Speaker 2: they focused on cancer treatment, immunizations, eedy time, specialist appointments

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Speaker 2: and elective surgeries. Today is about how we do that,

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Speaker 2: how do we reach those goals? What's needed? Royal New

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Speaker 2: Zealand College of GP's medical director Luke Bradford with US

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Speaker 2: Morning Morning, Mike, broadly speaking what they're looking to do

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Speaker 2: the government on health. Do you get it? Does it

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Speaker 2: seem real? Is it achievable?

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Speaker 16: I do get it. It makes sense to have some targets

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Speaker 16: that people, especially if public, can relate to and the

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Speaker 16: system can work towards achievable. Yes, that we're a long

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Speaker 16: way off at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Do you shame Ritti's quoted this morning is saying he

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Speaker 2: can't guarantee these targets won't be gained by the sector.

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Speaker 2: I think the references there are people working against him.

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Speaker 2: Do you see that or feel that in your particular

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Speaker 2: area or not?

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Speaker 16: No, No, I don't think it's that people are working

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Speaker 16: against and I think it's that without the tools to

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Speaker 16: actually deliver them and make them achievable, people look at

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Speaker 16: other options. So traditionally one of the ways you manage

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Speaker 16: waiting lists is to just accept less people onto them.

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Speaker 16: And actually that's not what the idea of the target

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Speaker 16: would be. It would be but people who need see

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Speaker 16: and are seen in a reasonable time. But one way

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Speaker 16: to do it is to just take.

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Speaker 2: Less on how much of it's about money when you

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Speaker 2: talk about these tools, how much of it about straight

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Speaker 2: up and down hift of money versus there's inefficiencies in

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Speaker 2: the system that we can tweak.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, there's definitely an efficiency. Look at the ED thing,

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Speaker 16: and there is some stuff around patient flow, but a

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Speaker 16: lot of that is actually on how do you get

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Speaker 16: patients out of possible once they've been there, especially into

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Speaker 16: the nursing home system, and how do you stop them

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Speaker 16: from arriving in need in the first place. So getting

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Speaker 16: them seen in a timely way and looked after in

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Speaker 16: general practice. It's not all that needs investment. That there

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Speaker 16: are efficiencies too that can happen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And so how do you see it from your

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Speaker 2: side of the sector, the GP sector, and so you

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Speaker 2: see more people, you treat them earlier, they don't get

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Speaker 2: to ED. All of this seems to have been jawbone

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Speaker 2: for about one hundred years, and yet it doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: to be changing, is it?

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Speaker 18: No?

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Speaker 16: I mean, we've talked about it. The evidence is really clear.

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Speaker 16: It's global literature that if you look after people, we

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Speaker 16: have a continuity of care, a regular relationship, and you

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Speaker 16: get far less admissions need for ED, less people needing

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Speaker 16: operations and we like. But it's a big jump to

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Speaker 16: do it. People won't make that jump.

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Speaker 2: Do you think someone like Ritty, being from the sector,

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Speaker 2: actually does get it, has a good intent or he

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Speaker 2: knows secretly that's part of the answer, but just can't

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Speaker 2: do it. What's your view?

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Speaker 16: I think he knows it's part of the answer. He's

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Speaker 16: certainly he's a GP, he's lived and worked that, but

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Speaker 16: I think trying to move the system into making those

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Speaker 16: changes is difficult for him.

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Speaker 2: Are you optimistic?

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Speaker 16: Adall Yeah, yeah, I am, because I actually think there's

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Speaker 16: some really good people working in the jobs and doing

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Speaker 16: their best for the patients, and we're carry on delivering that.

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Speaker 2: All right, Look appreciate it. Look Bradford own to the

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Speaker 2: Royal New Zealand College of GPS thirteen past seven, asking

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Speaker 2: your health. We need a mindset change in this country.

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Speaker 2: So ACC announced yesterday that they're short of billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: The levees don't bring in, so you pay for the

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Speaker 2: motor vehicles, you pay for the work levy, the earner's levey,

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Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. They're a billion dollars short,

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Speaker 2: a billion dollars short. They got nine hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: thousand claims from these three levee schemes. Just think about

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Speaker 2: that for a moment. Nine hundred and thirty thousand people

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Speaker 2: are on ACC. That's twenty percent of the entire country

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Speaker 2: is on ACC. What's the matter with us? And instead

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Speaker 2: of going tell you what we could probably work more efficiently,

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Speaker 2: tell you what we could work with the medical fraternity

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Speaker 2: and look to trum costs, they just go, oh, we're

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Speaker 2: going to pass that on to you and you'll need

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Speaker 2: to pay for more. One of the things they admitted

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Speaker 2: they've got several problems, long standing issues with rehab services.

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Speaker 2: Why and why aren't they fixed them? And quote unquote

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Speaker 2: the organization's inability to identify problems and make changes. Well,

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Speaker 2: if they can't do it, how about their sack? A

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Speaker 2: few people find some who can and then stop playing

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Speaker 2: cost plus accounting and simply passing the cost on to us,

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Speaker 2: And in there lies your inflation problem. Fourteen past seven The.

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Speaker 2: Seventeen past seven are methn X. We got trouble at

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Speaker 2: methd X with a job, so we'll look at this

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Speaker 2: out to seven thirty. Meantime, we got ourselves another open letter.

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Speaker 2: What a week for open letters, it's been May. This

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Speaker 2: one's from the fifty former athletes. They want a review

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Speaker 2: of Sport New Zealand's transgender guidelines. They argue it's about fairness.

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Speaker 2: The Sports Minister, Chris Bishop is with us. Very good

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Speaker 2: morning to you.

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Speaker 21: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: They got a point.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, look, I've read the letter. I think they make

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Speaker 21: some some fair points and we are considering updating the guidelines.

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Speaker 21: The major point I think they make, which I think

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Speaker 21: has some merit to it us that the guidelines don't

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Speaker 21: you think at the moment about sens So it's a

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Speaker 21: document based all around inclusion and that's really important because

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Speaker 21: we want everyone, on a matter of their gender or

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Speaker 21: how they identify, to be able to participate in community sport.

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Speaker 21: That is really important. We've also got to get the

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Speaker 21: balance right between making sure that people feel like they

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Speaker 21: can participate, but also that there's fairness in the sports

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Speaker 21: and safety for people participating as well. And I think

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Speaker 21: the document could be updated to better reflect what I

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Speaker 21: think the community expects from that. So having to think

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Speaker 21: about that, and you know, once we've got a position

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Speaker 21: on that, we'll take it forward.

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Speaker 2: Would Sport New Zealand agree with you or not?

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Speaker 21: Well, Sport New Zealand is a government department that reports

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Speaker 21: to me and they're required to give effect to government policy.

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Speaker 21: So if I asked them to update the guidelines, they

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Speaker 21: will have to do that. These were developed under the

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Speaker 21: last government. And to be fair to them that many

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Speaker 21: sports have asked for guidelines, they're grappling with the very

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Speaker 21: true issue about how your balance inclusion and fedness and

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Speaker 21: safety and all of the issues that go with participation

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Speaker 21: of transgender people in community sports. So sports want the guidelines.

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Speaker 21: We've just got to make sure the guidelines strike the

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Speaker 21: right balance.

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Speaker 2: The best point they make is about self identification. That's

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Speaker 2: the beginning of the middle and the end of it.

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Speaker 2: That's not good enough, is it.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: I mean lots of sports already have policies in relation

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Speaker 21: to this. So for example, Triathlon New Zealand has specifically

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Speaker 21: adopted a code which has established an open category which

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Speaker 21: anyone can participate in, including transgender people. New Zealand Rugby

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Speaker 21: League has a policy that at age thirteen and over,

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Speaker 21: participants have to participate in the gender they're assigned at

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Speaker 21: birth SOS. Some sports are doing this quite well and

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Speaker 21: are grappling with it. Others are sort of yet to

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Speaker 21: kind of turn their mind to it particularly comprehensively, and

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Speaker 21: the guidelines will help in doing that. And look, they're

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Speaker 21: not mandatory either. That's the other point to make is

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Speaker 21: they're just guidelines, So they're just it's meant to be

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Speaker 21: this helpful guidance for sports to use as they navigate

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Speaker 21: through this issue. So I met with Save Women Sport

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Speaker 21: Australasia yesterday. Their clear request was that we update the guidelines.

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Speaker 21: They've given me this letter signed by you know this

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Speaker 21: the serial gust group of Olympians and former athletes, and

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Speaker 21: you know we can have a good put the letter

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Speaker 21: and you know we're listening to what the community has

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Speaker 21: to say. And once we've got some more to say, well.

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Speaker 14: We'll do that.

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Speaker 2: And once you do, let me know appreciate it. Sports

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Speaker 2: Minister Chris Bishop, let's get into superannuation. Shortly seven twenty.

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Speaker 2: a try, and your outdoor space will be clean and safe.

874
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: Pasking Now seventy twenty four US, we enter yet another round,

875
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 2: seemingly of the superannuation debate. I note it was led

876
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: off last week by a group that wanted what they

877
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: termed a top up i e. A pay rise for

878
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 2: those who couldn't save. So you can see how fraught

879
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: that concept is from the get go. Why couldn't they save?

880
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: There's surely your first question, why couldn't they save? You've

881
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: got forty years, and I suppose that's another aspect of

882
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: this whole mess. Actually has changed. Do you have forty

883
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: years or do you have fifty years? I mean purple

884
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: will longer. Surely a chance to save more money, superfits

885
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: and all almost unique category of topics in this country

886
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: so entrenched it won't change. It's a futile exercise if

887
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: you keep bringing it up, only to be beaten down

888
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: by the time. Onlored belief that for whatever reason, if

889
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: you get to sixty five, you are owed something via

890
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: the state you paid your taxes. Of course, your taxes

891
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: have been well and truly spent. For most people, whatever

892
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 2: you handed over is long gone, and in that is

893
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: one of the great sadnesses of the New Zealand economic story.

894
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: We have very few net creditors, but a lot of

895
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: net debtors. People who actually pay more to the system

896
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: than take from it are very rare. Indeed, when I

897
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 2: started working, excuse me, in nineteen eighty two, I took

898
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: out a scheme whereby if you put a few dollars

899
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 2: a week aside, you would become a millionaire by the

900
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: time you got to sixty. And I'd completely forgotten about it,

901
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: mainly because I stopped paying because I worked out it

902
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: was bollocks. Anyway, I was reminded of this the other night.

903
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 2: I got a text text came through from an old

904
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: girlfriend who had, when we were together, taken out a

905
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: similar policy, but she'd stuck with it. Forty years later,

906
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 2: she is about to collect one hundred and six thousand dollars,

907
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 2: So not quite a millionaire and not really a stunning

908
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: return on investment. But what I'd worked out all those

909
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: years ago was the government were not to be part

910
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: of my retirement. Why would they be. Governments let you down,

911
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: Governments change rules, Governments have their own interests at heart,

912
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 2: not yours. So I saw to myself, Am I lucky? No?

913
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: Not really? Did I work hard?

914
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 19: Yes?

915
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: Do I care what the retirement age is?

916
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 10: No?

917
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: Do I care what the rules are?

918
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 12: No.

919
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: That's the value of charting your own course and not

920
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: being behold in two overlords pasking Mike fortunate to be

921
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: a patient at the same practice Luke Bradford works. What

922
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: an exceptional group of doctors. That's very good to hear that, Mike. ACC.

923
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: They should start with collecting up their loaned rehab equipment.

924
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: A good friend has an exercycle in a home for

925
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: the past two years, never returned, so family members now

926
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 2: using and it saves on the gym fiecea a picture.

927
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 2: There's a lot of that, Mike, with respect to ACC.

928
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: Why not just mandate that every employer will have to

929
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 2: take out insurance for workplace injuries and manage them through

930
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 2: that insurance policy, because that's America and we'd like to

931
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: be America. And the premiers go through the roof and

932
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: then it gets factored and do your pay. I'm not

933
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: saying it's a bad idea. I'm just saying that's why

934
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: they would argue they don't do it. Mike, acc has

935
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: got billions in reserve. What's going on, rob The reason

936
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: they don't touch reserves is because they're reserves and they

937
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: live off the interest of those reserves. And that's the

938
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 2: whole points. Like the superannuation scheme, Mike just did three

939
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 2: great weeks in Italy. Two espressos each morning. This goes

940
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 2: back to Joe who's in Capri. Two espressos each morning

941
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: for less than four euro, So a couple of euro

942
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 2: per two peroni for lunch, per two peroni for lunch

943
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: for under eight euro each day. Great value. And with

944
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: the sun and thirty degrees, what can you do? You

945
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: don't tell me what you do for elevenses, and you

946
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: certainly don't tell me about your evening drinking habits.

947
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 6: I'm reading, and your pre lunch drinks as well three.

948
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: Pre lunch drinks as well, And I'm really interested in

949
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: evening drinking habits and know what you're going on there,

950
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: so don't just give me there. I had a couple

951
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: of coffees and a couple of beers. A person who

952
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: has a couple of beers at lunch on holiday doesn't

953
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 2: stop at lunch. Do I speak from experience? I couldn't

954
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: possibly say so. In a couple of moments, meth and X.

955
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 2: Last time I looked, they were flicking off gas around

956
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: the country to help us out of this particular crisis.

957
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: Now they're laying people off. So the big long term

958
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: picture of industrial New Zealand is not looking particularly flash.

959
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 2: So we'll have a look at this in the next

960
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: half hour of the program. Then we will get our

961
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: gift cards. Yet will deal with that. There's a house

962
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 2: I've got to tell you about this in one roof

963
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: this morning, and Graham Norton for you after eight.

964
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: The big News, Bold opinions, the mic asking breakfast with

965
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: the Jaguar f base cut from a different cloth, News

966
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: tog zedb.

967
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: Recent piece to be written in the Herald this morning.

968
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: This ongoing scrap between I don't know New Zealand Inc.

969
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 2: I guess you would call it a mean. Specifically the

970
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 2: government and some of these big tech players for this article.

971
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: It's Google. Their tactics include threatening to not renew existing

972
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 2: contracts with media companies. So this is the old business

973
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: of whereby in New Zealand media wants these tech players

974
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: because they take material they didn't create put it on

975
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: their platforms. They want us to pay some dough. We'll

976
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: want them to pay some dough. The government is I think,

977
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: reluctantly got involved. This was neighlyet started by Labor. I've

978
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: said on this program many many times, it's going nowhere.

979
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: It can go nowhere. It's never been successful anywhere in

980
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: the world. They've run into all sorts of trouble in Canada.

981
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: It's a mess currently in Australia and I don't think

982
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: we're going to do anything better. So anyway, read that

983
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: this morning. But then you get to Australia with the

984
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: revelation yesterday, and this is why these people are so

985
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: disliked and not trusted. Facebook admitted in front of an

986
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: inquiry in Australia yesterday to scraping every Australian adult uses

987
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: public photos and posts and What did they do that

988
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: for so they could train their AI? Was there an

989
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: opt out clause?

990
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 18: No?

991
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 2: Are there rules around the world that say you can't

992
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: do that sort of thing?

993
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 15: Yes?

994
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: In Europe there are? So do they do it in Europe?

995
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 10: No?

996
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: Do they do it in Australia? Yes? Why do they

997
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: do it in Australia because there are no laws? So

998
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: two questions are so technically they're not breaking the law,

999
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: you can ask the question, why hasn't the government been

1000
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: on top of that put a law in place so

1001
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff isn't scraped. Two, you can ask

1002
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 2: the in this case Facebook, do they morally feel good

1003
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 2: about themselves knowing full well that there are laws around

1004
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: the world that don't allow them to do this? But

1005
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: in Australia because there isn't they feel free just to

1006
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 2: be able to wander and grab the privacy issues, take

1007
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: them away and train their AI? And what does that

1008
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,959
Speaker 2: say about them morally? As a corporate twenty one minutes

1009
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: away from eight and that's before it gets a island

1010
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: and Apple and twenty five or twenty six billion dollars

1011
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: in taxes to get another court case anyway. Meantime, in

1012
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: a week where origional New Zealand is getting whacked. We

1013
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 2: now got Methinics proposing to downsize to a one plant

1014
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: operation job set to go here. The company puts the

1015
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: blame on the poor gas outlook. Former president CEO of

1016
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: Methnex Corporation, Bruce aikins with us on all of this. Bruce,

1017
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: very good morning to you.

1018
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 17: Good morning.

1019
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: Make that deal that was struck the other day between

1020
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: Methdics and the power companies to help us out over

1021
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: this period, is that tied in in any way, shape

1022
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: or form, do you think or not?

1023
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 17: No, I don't think so. And let me emphasize I'm

1024
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 17: not here speaking on behalf of methodics. I'm really I'm

1025
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 17: just an interested citizen who knows something about the energy

1026
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 17: metrics and yoursell I think what we've been observing in

1027
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 17: the last few months is just short term fluctuations, and

1028
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 17: they always happen in the market. So I don't think

1029
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 17: I think there's much noise and much ado about nothing.

1030
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 17: I think the big deal, Mike is we lack a

1031
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 17: long term coherent energy strategy. And if you think about

1032
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 17: where does our energy come from and what did our

1033
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 17: supply come from, they're all very very long term decisions.

1034
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 17: If you want to build a new dam to create hydroelectricity,

1035
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 17: if you want to build a gas house station, or

1036
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 17: a geo thermal firestation or a wind farm, they take many,

1037
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 17: many years in planning and construction and commissioning, and many

1038
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 17: hundreds of millions of dollars. So they're very big long

1039
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 17: term decisions. And I think when we decided to UH

1040
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 17: to promote renewable energy, which I think is an admirable

1041
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 17: thing to do, something we should all support and it

1042
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 17: makes I think economic and environmental sense. The mistake we

1043
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 17: made was to not recognize as a very long transition

1044
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 17: and we should have thought that through. What was the

1045
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 17: transitional fuel that we wanted to use, and I think

1046
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 17: it should have been natural gas.

1047
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 15: What did we do?

1048
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 17: We went and ban the exploration of natural gas and

1049
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 17: basically poured cold water over the any opportunity we have

1050
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 17: to use natural gas as a transition. Puel to me,

1051
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 17: that's the big long term issue that this country faces.

1052
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. Were you in charge of methodics when

1053
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: that decision was made by Jasinda.

1054
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 17: Ad No no no no no, I'd retired long since

1055
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 17: along before that. Unfortunately, so no no I had no, no,

1056
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 17: any particular insight into that decision. What I think it

1057
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 17: was it was it was an ideological that it was them.

1058
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 17: And you know, here we have the irony that the

1059
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 17: rest of the world is improving their emissions characteristics by

1060
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 17: shutting down coal fired power stations and replacing them with

1061
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 17: natural gas burning power stations, and here we're they're in

1062
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 17: the opposite. We're shutting down whatever natural gas capacity we had,

1063
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 17: and we're importing coal from Indonesia to run to run

1064
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 17: the Hunting power station.

1065
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 2: It's insane.

1066
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 17: And you know, we need that, we need the coal

1067
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 17: that is keeping us keeping the lights on. But it's

1068
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 17: it's complete stupidity that we've allowed this to happen and

1069
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 17: we didn't think through the consequences of of banning the

1070
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 17: exploration on natural gas.

1071
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 2: To argument, well, one argument the Labor Party put forward

1072
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: to that, they say, where it doesn't matter whether we're

1073
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: not looking, when we were looking, there was nothing defined

1074
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 2: true or not.

1075
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 17: Oh that's no, that's that's just silly. Really, it's you know,

1076
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 17: natural gas is not easy to find, so on the

1077
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 17: first dollars of you know, you.

1078
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 22: Drill a lot of dry wells and before before you

1079
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 22: find things and uh, you know, there've been you know,

1080
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 22: several very large discoveries in the Taranaki basin over.

1081
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 17: The last sixty or seventy years. The biggest one was

1082
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 17: Maui of course, and then you know Polkour is probably

1083
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 17: the second biggest. And you know, so those are two

1084
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 17: discoveries and all that time and you you've been drilling

1085
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 17: wells and spending you know, many many hundreds of millions

1086
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 17: of dollars looking for natural gas. So it's not easy

1087
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Speaker 17: to find. What you need is a committed explorer who's

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Speaker 17: prepared to you know, bring the ridge to your zone

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Speaker 17: and spend the hundreds of millions of dollars, have a

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Speaker 17: very long term view, and then if you're drilling up wells,

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Speaker 17: you'll find you'll find natural gas. You know, there's there's

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Speaker 17: wonderful story out of the North Sea that the when

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00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 17: before they discovered natural gas there, they drilled hundreds of

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Speaker 17: wells and they're on the verge of giving up, and

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Speaker 17: then the very last well that I think BP drill,

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Speaker 17: they hit a pocket of natural gas. And then of

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Speaker 17: course the rest of his history that Morse has been

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Speaker 17: a prolific producer ever since.

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Speaker 2: Exactly Bruce Good and so I appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 2: Lask to talk to you. Bruce Akin, former president CEO

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Speaker 2: of Methodics. It is well, I might have trouble at home.

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Speaker 2: More in a moment sixteen two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: It'd be thirteen away from it. So a couple of

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00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: the things I do that annoy my wife. One of

1107
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 2: them is I send her cars, pictures of cars, not

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00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 2: just random cars, cars that are currently for sale as

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Speaker 2: a sort of a thought start, a conversation starter over

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Speaker 2: say lunch, something like that. And the other thing I

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Speaker 2: do when they're not cars, it's houses. And that's a

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Speaker 2: shared joy between us, to be fair, I think, because

1113
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Speaker 2: we're constantly looking at houses and moving houses and doing

1114
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Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. So the perfect house came

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Speaker 2: across my plate the other day. It's a twenty two

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00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 2: Monaco drive and you'll find that in Cromwell, and not

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00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: that we were looking specifically to move to cross Well.

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Speaker 2: But the advantage of it was it was at Highlands.

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00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 2: This is a house at a racetrack. Are you joining

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00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: the dots? Not only was this a house at a racetrack,

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00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: but it Well initially started out as a house that

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00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 2: could hold about eight cars. It currently holds thirteen. Yet

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00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: more dots are being joined. Not only that, not only

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Speaker 2: can it hold thirteen cars, it's got a lift and

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00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: you can take a car from the bottom floor to

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00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 2: the lounge and you can have your car in the lounge.

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00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 2: So obviously I forwarded that particular listening to my wife.

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Speaker 6: It's no different really to those houses in Paranui that

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Speaker 6: are on the.

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Speaker 2: Same thing, on the precise precisely with a hangar, with

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00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 2: a planary, exactly the same thing. So I thought we'd

1132
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 2: have some interesting discourse over lunch, which we did. It

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00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: involved me not moving to Cromwell, not buying twenty two

1134
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 2: Monaco Drive, and basically putting that dream to bed.

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00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 6: What about just getting a lift and your existing house?

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00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: Funnily enough, Glenn, I will tell you another story about

1137
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 2: that another day. Anyway, This morning, to help me out,

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Speaker 2: I open up, as I always do every morning, one roof,

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Speaker 2: and the headline this morning is Mike Hosking, please buy

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00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 2: my house. You know you will love it. That's the headline,

1141
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 2: and Mark Giton, I'll read you from the article. Why

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00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: wouldn't I? It's good reading one roof, Mark Geiton wants

1143
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 2: Mike Hosking to buy his house. He thinks Mike Hosking

1144
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: would be interested. Why, says the article, because it overlooks

1145
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 2: Highland's Motorsport Park and houses a smart racing car collection

1146
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 2: in the upstairs lounge. Mike Hosking says, Mike giton in

1147
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 2: one roof this morning, to be read by anyone who

1148
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: can click open one roof. I've already thoughted this to

1149
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 2: my wife. She doesn't have to do this. Mike Hosking

1150
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 2: loves cars. Here's some very nice cars, and he likes

1151
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 2: Highland Motorsport Park as well. He would be a very

1152
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 2: good contender to buy this house.

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Speaker 6: So are they saying that because they actually want you

1154
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 6: specifically to buy it, or are they just using you

1155
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 6: as some kind of marketing tool without your permission? Are

1156
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 6: any kind of the Facebook scams that we've seen in

1157
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 6: the past.

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00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 2: Oh no, they want me to buy the house.

1159
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Speaker 6: Quinn, Well, I know that's what you think. Definitely, I'm

1160
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Speaker 6: just trying to take a more objective.

1161
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 2: View objective about this, Quin they want to They're.

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Speaker 6: Basically they're basically turning you into a meme.

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00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: It's my dream house.

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00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 6: And before you know it, you know, you'll be super

1165
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 6: composed over pictures of dolphins and people will be saying,

1166
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Speaker 6: I am a lesbian.

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Speaker 2: So have no reason. Today I'm going to have another conversation,

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00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 2: a little bit of discourse over lunch today with my

1169
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: wife to see whether the ground is shifted in any way,

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Speaker 2: shape or form. If it hasn't, have a look at

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Speaker 2: the house.

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Speaker 6: Do you want to bet on whether it has or not?

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00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 6: You often you asked me, do you want to bet?

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Speaker 6: And that's what I will take.

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Speaker 2: Can I just suggest that the price for what you

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Speaker 2: get is more than reasonable. I think it's a very

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Speaker 2: very well priced.

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Speaker 6: You know it doesn't include the cars, right.

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Speaker 2: Well, everything's negotiable, Glenn, surely, for goodness sake, anyway, look

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Speaker 2: at it. Wonder if suit what you think? Nine away from.

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Speaker 10: Eight the misty rest with.

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Speaker 2: Like try using the phrase my current wife. I find

1183
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 2: it has an interesting reaction, but does put them on notice?

1184
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 2: That's not funny? Sex Away from Ete Hope for the

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Speaker 2: Unclaimed Gift Vouchery Government Members bill past its third reading,

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00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 2: so that becomes law, meaning expiry dates will soon be

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00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: extended to three years. It is thought that one in

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00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 2: every five are not used, which is a total of

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Speaker 2: ten million bucks annually consuming. New Zealand campaign manager Jessica

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Speaker 2: Walker is with us on this, Jessica, good morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Does it solve a problem? Yeah?

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Speaker 23: I think this is a great step forward. We were

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00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 23: actually pushing for a five year minim expiry, but you

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00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 23: know what we're happy with. Three is much better than

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Speaker 23: one we've got right now, which is no expiry, which

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Speaker 23: is obviously not a great situation to be in for

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Speaker 23: a hell of a lot of people that find themselves

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Speaker 23: with that they can't actually spend.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, how do people leave it so long? And therefore

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Speaker 2: it becomes a problem And is.

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Speaker 23: That only really of course is an element of personal responsibility,

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00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 23: but you know, people are busy, and because there's no

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Speaker 23: minimum expiry, we hear from people who've got gift cards

1204
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Speaker 23: for their birthday whatever, and some of these have got

1205
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 23: three months on them, and it's you know, I think

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00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 23: it's totally reasonable to expect if you get a gift card,

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00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 23: then you're going to have you know, at least a year.

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Speaker 23: And what we what we're going to see now is

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Speaker 23: three years, which is great. But consistency and clarity we

1210
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 23: think is key. So people are going to know, you

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00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 23: know's great, I've got this. I can stick it in

1212
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 23: my wallet and I'll get around to using it eventually.

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Speaker 23: And I think that, you know, when we're looking at

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Speaker 23: three months, six months, it's just not feasible. And really

1215
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 23: it's just a gift to the retailer of our service provider,

1216
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 23: literally money for nothing. So it's great to see that ending.

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Speaker 2: And the industry will buy I mean, I know they've

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00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 2: got no choice, it's the law, but broadly they'll buy

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Speaker 2: into it, and therefore you won't have a hassle.

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Speaker 23: Do you think No, I don't think so. And you

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00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 23: know Australians bought this this beafs of lawing in twenty nineteen,

1222
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 23: so it brings them in with them. So right now

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00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 23: we've got this crazy scenario where if you go a

1224
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 23: tiki tech about you in Australia you get three years

1225
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 23: on that and if you get one here you get

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Speaker 23: eighteen months. And so it's going to start selling this

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Speaker 23: like that. If you get it bout it, then it's

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00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 23: going to be it's going to be the same no

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Speaker 23: matter where you laugh.

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Speaker 2: Oh good on you, Jessica, appreciate it. Jessica walk around

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Speaker 2: of consumers this morning. It is six minutes, four minutes

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Speaker 2: away from eight task. Come on, Kate has taste. That

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00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 2: place looks like a replica of the others in the street,

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Speaker 2: blared Kate, won't you even engage in a conversation. It's

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Speaker 2: not that flesh. Everyone's a critic. Wow, must be good money?

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Speaker 2: Does it? Come with Murphy's number one fifty one? Holden? Sup,

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Speaker 2: k he's got one of Murph's Holden's. You know, as

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Speaker 2: I say, everything's negotiable, Mike, come with Kate. Who wants

1239
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: a carry in the lounge, regardless of whether it's a

1240
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Speaker 2: second lounge or not? I do I'm wrong with a

1241
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: carry on your lounge? How do you know until you

1242
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 2: had a car in your lounge? How do you know

1243
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Speaker 2: you don't want to carry on your lounge?

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Speaker 6: If you can get it clean enough so it doesn't

1245
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Speaker 6: smell like a car.

1246
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: You can just keep it clean. Glint's not that hard.

1247
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's still going to be sort of rubbery

1248
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Speaker 6: in Greece and.

1249
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Speaker 2: Not if you polish it. What about an ev? EV

1250
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: wouldn't smell it?

1251
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 6: Oh, that's right, you're into evs. Now, what was the

1252
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 6: one you were going to.

1253
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Speaker 2: Buy it was the cyber truck.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's right, I'm a cyber truck fit in

1255
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Speaker 6: a lounge.

1256
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Speaker 2: Good question. That's the sort of thing she'd say, would

1257
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: go for the open home, and she go, I would

1258
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Speaker 2: have boord it at hadn't been for the fact the

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00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: lounge is too small for the cyber truck, and I

1260
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Speaker 2: would have gone.

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Speaker 6: Would you have to app your insurance premiums for fire risk?

1262
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: Probably would actually news on a couple of moments than

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Speaker 2: Graham Norton, your.

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Speaker 2: It is seven past eight South Favor talk to her hosters.

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Speaker 2: Mack has been a year since he last trundled into

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Speaker 2: the BBC studios in London when we were there for

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Speaker 2: the coronation. Of course, as later as novel is called Frankie,

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Speaker 2: It's out this week. Graham Norton is back for us.

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Speaker 2: Good morning and a good morning to you, sir.

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Speaker 15: How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm extremely well and you are at the end of summer.

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01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: You look like you're in a cottage today. Every time

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01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: we interview, I always go where are you? And sometimes

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Speaker 2: it's in New York, and sometimes it's in Ireland, and

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01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: sometimes it's in London. I've not seen the background.

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Speaker 7: This will be excited to know. It's the back bedroom

1280
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 7: of my house in Ireland. We're just finishing up the

1281
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 7: summer here and actually, weirdly, it's a gorgeous stay here.

1282
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 7: The sun has been shining all day. I've just had

1283
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 7: a swim.

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01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 2: It's beautiful, fantastic. Have you done the Village Quiz or

1285
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 2: attended the Literary Festival.

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Speaker 7: I've attended the Literary Festival. I took a year off.

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01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 7: I didn't take I was given a year off from

1288
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 7: the quiz. I think they're trying to rebuild demand so

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01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 7: they rested it for a year. So I was very

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Speaker 7: happy to take a year off.

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Speaker 2: I was very I was reading something about you. Somebody

1292
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 2: asked what's it like to be famous? And I thought

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01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 2: your aunt's was brilliant, and that was it's like being

1294
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 2: where you are now. Other words, in small town Island,

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01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 2: everybody knows everybody.

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Speaker 10: It is.

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Speaker 7: It's like because somebody asked me in when I was

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Speaker 7: at the little town here Bantry, and I was giving

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Speaker 7: a talk and somebody asked me, what's the like being famous?

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Speaker 7: It's such a kind of sweet, innocent question and there

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Speaker 7: should be an answer to it, but of course, what

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Speaker 7: is the answer to what it's like being famous? And

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Speaker 7: then it suddenly struck me it's like bantry, where you know,

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Speaker 7: you try to avoid people in the supermarket and everyone

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Speaker 7: knows your business. So it's just like that. I think

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Speaker 7: that's kind of why I like it back here in

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Speaker 7: West Cork, because yes, everyone knows me, but I know

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Speaker 7: a lot of them, so it has a kind of

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Speaker 7: a logic to it, whereas if you're walking down Oxford

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Speaker 7: Street in London and people know who you are, that's

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Speaker 7: just nuts, that's just weird.

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Speaker 2: Is it a nice place to be where you can

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Speaker 2: be yourself and relax?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, And it is kind of a I think

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Speaker 7: part of that, Like my job is slightly more exotic

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Speaker 7: because i'm Grayham off the Tevision, but walking around I'll

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Speaker 7: know that that's Margarets who takes the money at the butcher's.

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Speaker 7: That's the guy who you know works in the garage,

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Speaker 7: you know, so I have a kind of a reference

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Speaker 7: to them as well. And I've been coming here now

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Speaker 7: for I don't know, like twelve thirteen years or something,

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Speaker 7: so you know me and if they say hello, it

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Speaker 7: doesn't seem weird. It's because they know me.

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Speaker 2: Now, that's a nice way to be. When does your

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Speaker 2: television show come? I've been trying to track this. You

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Speaker 2: normally relaunch in September? Am I correct in saying that.

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Speaker 7: You are correct? And it is still correct? We'll be

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Speaker 7: back at the end of September? I think here we're

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Speaker 7: on air on the twenty seven, twenty eighth or something

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Speaker 7: like that, so I don't know when it will reach

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Speaker 7: you guys.

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Speaker 2: So where are you at literally as you talked to

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Speaker 2: us in this early September morning? Do you know when

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Speaker 2: you're recording who's on the show? Have you got a

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Speaker 2: question line sorted out? Have you started your research?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Mike, no, no, no, there are guest books. But I'm

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Speaker 7: not going to say because that just jinxes it. You know,

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Speaker 7: it's actually it is a really starry lineup for our

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01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 7: first showback. It's a very star lineup. But I don't

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Speaker 7: want to jinx it by saying who's on, because if

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Speaker 7: I do that, they will all you know, you know

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Speaker 7: how to treat this is they will all cancel the

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Speaker 7: minute I say who they are. And we always record

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Speaker 7: on a Thursday night, so I know that's happening, and

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Speaker 7: I won't really get into what we're asking them until

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Speaker 7: the Wednesday in the office all day Wednesday, and that's

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Speaker 7: when we kind of go through the questions and things.

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Speaker 7: But I'm very much I don't know what you're like.

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01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 7: I'm very much what's the thing I have to focus on.

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Speaker 7: What's the next thing I focused on? So right now

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Speaker 7: I'm just about launch into kind of the world of

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01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 7: book promo. I'm doing a tour, a little little biddy

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01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 7: tour here in Ireland, and then I'm doing a big

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Speaker 7: book tour in the UK starting next sudden day. So

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Speaker 7: that's where my head's at. And then then at the

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Speaker 7: end of that, I'll go, oh, yeah, there's a chat show.

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Speaker 7: What do I need to know about that? I just

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01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 7: I don't worry about the next thing. I just worry

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Speaker 7: about the thing fantastic.

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Speaker 2: When you interview people, I mean, I don't know who

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Speaker 2: these people are, but you will have interviewed them before.

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Speaker 2: Do you look to get something different out of it

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01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 2: or do you look to reacquite yourself in that familial

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Speaker 2: way that brings the magic that has made you so successful,

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Speaker 2: and a.

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Speaker 7: Bit of both. You know, if someone was good before,

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01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 7: you'd like them to be good again. If they weren't

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Speaker 7: very good before, you'd like them to be better. Actually,

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Speaker 7: this first show back, I think there's at least one,

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Speaker 7: I think two big stars who we've never had before.

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Speaker 2: Wow, and.

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Speaker 7: One of them I saw her during the summer doing

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Speaker 7: a Q and A after a film, and I'd never

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Speaker 7: really seen her being interviewed before.

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Speaker 10: And I would have.

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Speaker 7: Been before I saw this Q and A, I would

1378
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 7: have been like, oh, is that going to be okay?

1379
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 7: She was so funny and good, So hopefully that's what

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Speaker 7: we'll get on Thursday night at the end of September.

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Speaker 2: All right, listen, hold on there a couple of moments,

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01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 2: so I'll come back and talk about your book shortly.

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Speaker 2: Graham Norton is whether it's twelve past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio

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Speaker 1: powered by News Talk.

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Speaker 2: Zip B Talk. It's a quarter past eight. Guest is

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Speaker 2: a Graham Norton out of Ireland this morning. As actually

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Speaker 2: speaking of guests, are you familiar with the name Luke comes?

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Speaker 12: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so I'm a massive country music fan. I

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Speaker 2: did him the other week and I'd never done him before,

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Speaker 2: and we were working on getting them on for two

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01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 2: years and so I've been around long enough now to

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Speaker 2: it doesn't bother me. And you know, we just chatting

1395
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,479
Speaker 2: all that. But I got I was on edge. I thought,

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Speaker 2: I hope this goes well as it turns out it did.

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Speaker 7: Do you brilliant?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean you don't care. You'll never say it,

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Speaker 2: but do you do you go through that same thing.

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Speaker 7: No, absolutely, you know, particularly and particularly the ones you've

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01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 7: worked for. You know, if somebody just falls into your lap,

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01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 7: you kind of go, oh so, but you know, somebody

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01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 7: like Julia Roberts. We had tried to get Julia Roberts

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01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 7: for you know, decades, really, you know, and then finally

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01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 7: it's happening and we realized it was only I think

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Speaker 7: after we booked it, we realized she'd never done a

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Speaker 7: UK talk show before.

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Speaker 17: Wow.

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Speaker 7: Ever, not even in the beginning of her career, she

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Speaker 7: never did one. And and so you think, oh god,

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Speaker 7: you know, is there a reason she's never done a

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Speaker 7: UK talk too? And of course I'm an idiot because

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01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 7: when she sat down on the couch, you realize why

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Speaker 7: she's such a huge star. I mean, just charisma to

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Speaker 7: burn the audience, or just entranced by her. They just

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Speaker 7: loved everything about her. But she was great with the audience.

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Speaker 7: You know, you kind of got oh, you know, yes,

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Speaker 7: you're a movie star. But she hadn't lost whatever it

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01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 7: was that it made her sorry. She was still able

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01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 7: to totally engage with an audience, you know. And in

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Speaker 7: little breaks in the filming, she didn't talk to me,

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01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 7: she didn't talk to Tom Hanks or share. She was

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Speaker 7: talking to the audience, and you know, cracking jokes with them.

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Speaker 7: And I was so impressed by her. Yeah, and and

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Speaker 7: and that's you know that thing about never meet your heroes.

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Speaker 7: It is lovely when you meet your heroes, and they

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Speaker 7: turned out to be everything you'd hoped.

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Speaker 2: For exactly right, we must talk about the book. And

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Speaker 2: this is what you do so incredibly well. You start

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01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 2: by talking about general matters and then you slip the

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Speaker 2: main reason for the interview in. And this is what

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Speaker 2: I'm doing right now, Graham. As it turns out, so

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone noticed, so so so, Frankie, now

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Speaker 2: here's here's the thing. It's it's over many years, decades

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Speaker 2: in fact, how much research goes in. How do you

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Speaker 2: do the research and how do you know it's accurate?

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, how do you know it's act. We

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01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 7: have to believe what you read research. You have to

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01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 7: go Okay, there are some in the world, there are

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01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 7: some facts, there are things we can rely on. So

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Speaker 7: that's how I know it's accurate. The research. I sort

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01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 7: of knew that I was going to have to do

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01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 7: some and i'd never really I mean, I've done a

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01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 7: bit of googling when I was writing before, but never

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01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 7: proper research, and so I wasn't sure if I'd enjoy it,

1447
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 7: would it be a bit like homework, And turns out

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Speaker 7: I did enjoy it. I mean, I think part of

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01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 7: the key was that I was writing about worlds that

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01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 7: I was interested in. It's kind of you know, there's

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01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 7: a bit of theater, there's a bit of the art

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01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 7: world in the sixties and seventies, and I was interested

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Speaker 7: in those. But to do kind of the deep dive reading,

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Speaker 7: I found it all fascinating. I think that the thing

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01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 7: you've got to do then is not put everything you've

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01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 7: learned in your book. You know, sometimes you read a

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01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 7: book and you're, yeah, we get it, you need some

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01:08:55,560 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 7: research back off. So I tried to use it as

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01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 7: lightly as as I could. And also, you know, you

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Speaker 7: don't want to turn into a dinner party bar with

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Speaker 7: kind did you know that? So I'm trying not to

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Speaker 7: be that guy. And the good thing is, of course,

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Speaker 7: as fast as I learned all of this research, I

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Speaker 7: forgot it, So I hopefully I won't be the dinner

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Speaker 7: party boar fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Somebody in a piece of right the other day was

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Speaker 2: suggesting that you quit radio. Since we've last talked, you

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01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 2: quit radio, and you've got this busy schedule and you're

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01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 2: wandering around doing your tour in the book and stuff

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Speaker 2: that we're seeing now the evolution of Graham Norton the novelist.

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Speaker 2: Is there something in that?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I suppose the fewer things you do, the

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Speaker 7: more focused you become. So you know, I was doing

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Speaker 7: the radio. I did the radio for thirteen years, so

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01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 7: to have my weekends back, I'm just seeing it as

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01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 7: the evolution of Graham Norton not doing anything at the weekend.

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01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 7: But I maybe there's a bit of I'm taking the

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01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 7: books more seriously. I think I'm getting better. This is

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01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 7: novel five, and I think it's the one I enjoyed

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01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 7: writing the most, and it seems to be landing in

1481
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 7: a different way the kind of the early readers. And

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01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 7: you know those people are those people who get early

1483
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 7: copies of the books and seem more enthused about this

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01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 7: book than they have the others. So yeah, we'll see,

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01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 7: we'll see what happens. This is almost a weird time

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01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 7: where before the book comes out, because with lots of

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01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 7: the other things I do, I can pretend I don't care.

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01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 7: I can go, you know, oh, stupid show, We're doing

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Speaker 7: another one next week. It didn't matter it was bad,

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Speaker 7: or you know, radio show. I don't care, I'll be

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01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 7: back on tomorrow. It doesn't matter. With a book, you

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Speaker 7: can't pretend you don't care, even if it's the word

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01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 7: and you know, for three hundred pages it took you

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01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 7: a long time to type that word. You just can't

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01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 7: pretend that you didn't put some work in. So I

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01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 7: did put work in, which means that I guess I

1497
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 7: feel differently about books than I do about anything else

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01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 7: I do. You know, you have to take it personally.

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Speaker 2: Are you more enthused about this book? Are you sitting

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Speaker 2: there in the middle of it, thinking, actually, this is

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Speaker 2: turning out quite well.

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01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 7: Yes, But then I think I always think that, and

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01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 7: then it's only, you know, it's only when the book

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01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 7: arrives in the world people go, yeah, you were wrong.

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01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 7: So we'll see how this one lands. But like I say,

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01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 7: so far, it feels kind of different. It feels like

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01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 7: it's people are reacting in a different way.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, well, isn't it? As always? It's lovely to catch

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Speaker 2: up and talk with you, and good luck with the book.

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Speaker 2: And is the wine still going well? By the way,

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Speaker 2: you're still consuming plenty of.

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Speaker 7: It, and I'm certainly a consumer, and I'm told it's

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Speaker 7: flying off the shelves. We met up at the Boys

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Speaker 7: in New York and did our tasting there, which was

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Speaker 7: very glamorous. Have grapes will travel. So yeah, it's still

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Speaker 7: gone strong.

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Speaker 2: I think, fantastic. We'll enjoy the rest of you some

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Speaker 2: of good luck with the book, good luck with the

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Speaker 2: television show. We'll look forward to seeing all the stars.

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Speaker 2: And who knows, we're booking for our next interview. What

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Speaker 2: October a month?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, cheers, Mike, Thank you very mu I'm easy to

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Speaker 7: get them Luke Coombs.

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Speaker 2: be the first invite. No, quite right, Penny, we lom

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Speaker 2: Micahkara on the lounge would mean you could do your

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Speaker 2: own drive and movie night. See the ideas are starting

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Speaker 2: to flow. Surely teenage Shenanigans and the comfort of your

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Speaker 2: own home would tip the balance. Come on, James Rumor

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Speaker 2: has Rodmillan has a model t in his lounge at

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Speaker 2: his house and hahe I know not of this. PSI

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Speaker 2: wants a Karen my lunch. Who doesn't want a Carr

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Speaker 2: on the lunge. See it's one of those things you've

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Speaker 2: never thought of until you have the possibility of a

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Speaker 2: lift from your garage to bring it up into the lounge,

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Speaker 2: and suddenly your life changes forever. Be much easier, though,

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Speaker 2: Mike to put the chair in the garage slightly spoil sportish,

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Speaker 2: but actually it does make some sense. So they're letting

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Speaker 2: people out of prison as we speak in Britain because

1564
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Speaker 2: there are too many people in prison, so they let

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Speaker 2: them out early. This is causing, perhaps not surprisingly, some

1566
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Speaker 2: consternation and angst. Rod Little as with as out of

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Speaker 2: I love the Graham Norton Sharez. I didn't know he

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Speaker 2: did a Charez, but I'll take your word on at Mike.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful house and oh that bar I could see you

1574
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Speaker 2: driving around the house and the wee white car we're building.

1575
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Speaker 2: Quite the case here, I think twenty three minutes away from.

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Speaker 15: Two UK, Rod Little n good morning to you mate.

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Speaker 2: So the payment's gone through, The winter payments have been canceled,

1580
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 2: the vote's gone through. Of course, given the result of

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01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 2: the election, the Labor Party have the numbers. But is

1582
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 2: this over? Is there a rebellion on? How do they

1583
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Speaker 2: live this down?

1584
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 15: I think there is a rebellion on on, a rebellion

1585
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 15: which is probably worse than because kids Darma thought it

1586
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 15: would be. He won with ease, But the number of

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Speaker 15: MPs who either voted against, which was John Trickett, or abstained,

1588
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 15: which was another forty of people or fifty, and the

1589
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 15: number you decided not to turn up because they had

1590
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 15: a bad tummy ache or wanted to watch the end

1591
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 15: of the Chase with Bradley Walsh, or whatever other excuse

1592
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 15: they gave, suggest that there was a real feeling within

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01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 15: the party, not just on the left, not just on

1594
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 15: the usual suspects such as John McDonald on the hard left,

1595
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 15: that there was a real feeling that this was not

1596
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 15: really bad optics, but also just that that you would

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01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 15: be able to give this almoust pay rise to the

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Speaker 15: young doctors and indeed to the train drivers and then say, oh,

1599
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 15: we haven't got enough money to give the pensioners a

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Speaker 15: winter fuel payment. So I think there is a problem there.

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Speaker 15: And as one labor MP said to me, you know,

1602
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 15: only a couple of days ago, this is going to

1603
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 15: be a fight all the way for the next five years.

1604
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Speaker 15: There's going to be a lot of rebellions.

1605
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Speaker 2: How much political capital do you think he's burnt with

1606
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:25,759
Speaker 2: pensioners with this policy.

1607
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Speaker 15: None, because no pensioners voted for him. And I think

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01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 15: this was his calculation that you know, whereas the young doctors,

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01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 15: I think the poll suggests that sixty five percent of

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Speaker 15: doctors are on the left and would therefore have voted

1611
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Speaker 15: labor or greed or lived. Then if people over the

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01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,719
Speaker 15: age of sixty five have been the only people allowed

1613
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 15: to vote in the last election, and if only that

1614
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 15: have been true, then the Conservative Party would have won

1615
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 15: with a majority of seventy eight pensioners overwhelmingly vote conservative.

1616
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 15: Is that it is the biggest, single distinguishing mark that

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01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 15: the pensioners vote conservative and young people don't labor.

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01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 2: Okay, does it give an indication? I suppose you give

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01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 2: it in your first answer, But there's a give an indication.

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Speaker 2: When you've got a majority as large as his, there's

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Speaker 2: going to be a pile of stuff that people who

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01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 2: never thought they were going to be MP's are going

1623
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 2: to have to be facing explained to their constituents. And

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01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel very late.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, that undoubtedly is going to happen. And there are

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01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 15: a lot of a lot of people who who probably

1627
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 15: didn't imagine that they were going to be MP's frankly,

1628
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 15: and who suddenly is such as a guy who I

1629
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 15: stood against a very very decent blow, a young lad

1630
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 15: who clearly didn't expect to get in but did get

1631
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 15: in and now at the age of twenty seven twenty

1632
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:55,759
Speaker 15: eight is representing his constituency in Parliament. So Keir Starmer

1633
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 15: does have a bit of a job to win those

1634
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 15: people over properly for the party. The left is still

1635
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 15: very strong in the Labor Party, and you know it's

1636
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 15: not just the left at the moment, two are complaining.

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Speaker 2: Right, So if that's controversial, how controversial is the letting

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Speaker 2: out of prisoners. I mean, if the prisons are full,

1639
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 2: the prisons are full, so they let them out overnight.

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Speaker 2: My favorite was the bloke who left Wandsworth to literally

1641
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 2: walk out the door and be met by the police

1642
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:25,839
Speaker 2: who arrested him on suspicion of ripe six assault, racially

1643
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 2: aggravated public order offenses, to which everybody asked, how come

1644
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 2: he was one of the people they let out in

1645
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Speaker 2: the first place.

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Speaker 15: Well, I think you hit the nail on the head

1647
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 15: in two ways. Firstly, if the prisons are full, something

1648
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 15: has to be done about it. And so what they

1649
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 15: did was left two thousand prisoners, two thousand or so

1650
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 15: prisoners out early. So in a way, what else could

1651
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:51,679
Speaker 15: they do? But secondly, that's where you hit the nail

1652
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,440
Speaker 15: on the head, which is that there will be revealed

1653
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,680
Speaker 15: over the next week or so a whole host of

1654
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 15: horrible little strokes who have done really violent, dreadful things.

1655
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 15: And this will play again, particularly to people who don't

1656
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 15: usually vote labor, it has to be said. But it

1657
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 15: will be deeply unpopular, and it will it will dense

1658
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 15: Starmer a little bit. I think there is a general

1659
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 15: understanding that something needed to be done, you know, But

1660
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 15: it's in the detail. It's in the detail. It's when

1661
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 15: it's when you suddenly see a tree hardy jump into

1662
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 15: a Lamborghidie and drive away from ones with prison. That's

1663
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 15: that's when people start getting a bit.

1664
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 2: Angry, exactly. Congratulations on using the word scrots too, by

1665
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 2: the way, just real quick, generic and bed and Knock

1666
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 2: does it look given the second bite yesterday?

1667
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Speaker 16: Does it?

1668
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 2: Ginrick and Bednock? Will they be the two who go

1669
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:44,799
Speaker 2: to the party membership?

1670
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 15: I suspect so, which is a bit sad because the

1671
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 15: guy with a bit of original thought, Tom tougan hat

1672
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 15: looks as if he's probably going to go out next

1673
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 15: time around, and so the battle will be between Robert

1674
01:19:56,000 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 15: Jenrick and Keerry Badanock. And then it's very very clear

1675
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 15: who will win, and that's Kerry bad Enough.

1676
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 2: All right, mate, go well and we'll catch up next week.

1677
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 2: Appreciate it very much. Rod Little out of the UK

1678
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 2: for you. It's already seventeen to nine the.

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Speaker 2: At b As the ongoing scrap with well Tech, I

1682
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 2: mentioned the piece and the Herald should read about in

1683
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 2: the ongoing scrap with Google in this particular country and

1684
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 2: paying for details from the media, et cetera, et cetera. Anyway,

1685
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:29,719
Speaker 2: they lost another case in Europe this week. They've been fined.

1686
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 2: It's two point four billion euro so let's call it

1687
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 2: five billion dollars. It went through all the courts. All

1688
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 2: the stuff gets appealed and so they're disappointed. But anyway,

1689
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 2: that's that. The far more interesting case is the Apple case.

1690
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 2: And you may well remember this because this goes back

1691
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 2: to twenty sixteen. Apple had a deal with the Irish government.

1692
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 2: Ireland has been very very successful in terms of attracting

1693
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 2: corporates there with low tax rates, and they in fact

1694
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:58,799
Speaker 2: so successful are running a surplus at the moment. Anyway,

1695
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 2: they had a deal with Apple and the structure that

1696
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 2: EU didn't like because THEEU argued that nobody else got

1697
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 2: offered the same tax structure and that wasn't fair. So

1698
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 2: it was one of these unusual circumstances in which the

1699
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 2: European courts got involved. Apple defended themselves. Ireland were on

1700
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 2: Apple's site, so in other words, Apple were going, no,

1701
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 2: it's cool, We've got to deal with the Irish. The

1702
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 2: Irish were going, no, it's cool, We've got to deal

1703
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 2: with Apple. The European's going, well, we're in charge here,

1704
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 2: which is a very good insight into why you should

1705
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 2: never join a large club, because before you know it,

1706
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 2: you can't make your own rules. Be that as it may.

1707
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 2: Apple lost, which meant, ironically that Ireland won because the

1708
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 2: tax bill was twenty five billion dollars, and so Apple

1709
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 2: once again they appealed all the way up to the

1710
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 2: top of the European court chain, and yesterday they lost.

1711
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 2: Apple's once again disappointed, and they're going to have to

1712
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 2: cough up twenty five billion dollars to Ireland, who were

1713
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 2: also ironically disappointed because they didn't want the case to

1714
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 2: be the way the case is. But nevertheless, a country

1715
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 2: with the surplus of millions, if not billions of dollars,

1716
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 2: the moment suddenly have to and just think about this.

1717
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 2: Even though you technically have sort of lost the case,

1718
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:07,719
Speaker 2: you've won it because you're collecting all of a sudden

1719
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: twenty five billion dollars. Now, Ireland's about the size of

1720
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 2: this country, and if we were smart, we would have

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Speaker 2: now have the decision as to what do we do

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Speaker 6: Could we not? You know, when a case that we

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Speaker 10: Though?

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Speaker 2: So one day they say you're now owed twenty five

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Speaker 2: billion dollars. So they are now having to set about

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Speaker 2: they need. So what that decision is is going to

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Speaker 2: Cosmetics away from nine. So this is fect chicking. Daniel

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Speaker 2: Dial been doing it since twenty sixteen. He counted yesterday

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01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 2: thirty three false claims by Trump and one won by Harris,

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Speaker 2: plus a couple of misleading statements Trump fist.

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01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 24: On the economy, he said, tarriffs do not raise prices

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Speaker 24: on Americans. They do. He said is terrifts raked in

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Speaker 24: hundreds of billions of dollars from China. Americans paid those billions.

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Speaker 24: He said all the jobs created under under Biden and

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01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 24: Harris are merely bounced back jobs from his administration. No,

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01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 24: today's number is millions higher than back then. He said,

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Speaker 24: we have the worst inflation ever. No, the US record

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01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 24: is twenty three point seven percent. It is two point

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Speaker 24: nine percent today, down from a Biden Harris era peak

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Speaker 24: of nine point one percent. He said there was no

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Speaker 24: inflation when he was president. Prices actually rose a cumulative

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Speaker 24: eight percent when he was president.

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Speaker 6: Then.

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Speaker 24: On immigration, he said migrants in an Ohio city. You

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01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 24: heard are eating people's cats and dogs. That is a baseless,

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01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 24: debunked Facebook rumor, just nonsense. He said Harris as borders

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01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 24: are no she never was. She had a more limited

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01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 24: immigration of related diplomatic assignment. He said twenty one million

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01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 24: migrants have crossed the border under Harris. That is many

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01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,879
Speaker 24: millions too high. He said millions of people are entering monthly.

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Speaker 24: There has not been a single month in the millions.

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Speaker 24: He said many of the migrants are from foreign prisons

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Speaker 24: or mental institutions. Even his own campaign has not been

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01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 24: able to corroborate that. On abortion, he said every Democrat

1788
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 24: wanted Roe v. Wade overturn. That is just untethered to reality.

1789
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 24: Roe was supported by more than eighty percent of Democrats. Then,

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01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 24: he said every legal scholar wanted Row overturned. A bunch

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Speaker 24: of legal scholars have personally told me that they did not,

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Speaker 24: He said. Governor Tim Wall says it's fine to execute

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01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 24: babies after birth. Walls never said that, and that is

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01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 24: illegal in every single state. On foreign relations, he said

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Speaker 24: eighty five billion in US equipment was left to the Taliban.

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Speaker 24: That is a massive exaggeration. The Pentagon says the number

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Speaker 24: is seven billion. He said Iran didn't fund terror groups

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01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 24: under him. Iran did, though its funding level did decline.

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Speaker 24: He said he ended Russia's North dream to pipeline. No,

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01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 24: he did authorize sanctions, but after it was more than

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Speaker 24: ninety percent complete and Russia resume construction. During his own presidency,

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01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 24: he said the US has provided far more aid to

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Speaker 24: Ukraine than Europe has.

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Speaker 5: Is the reverse.

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Speaker 24: Europe has provided far more aid than the US. He

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01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 24: said President Biden took millions of dollars from China, he

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01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 24: did not. He added a false claim about Biden getting

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01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,600
Speaker 24: money from Russia, again nonsense. And he said Harris was

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01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,799
Speaker 24: sent to negotiate peace with Putin right before Russia's invasion

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Speaker 24: of Ukraine. Not only did that just not happen, The

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Speaker 24: Kremlin says Harris has never once even spoken with Putin.

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Speaker 24: Trump said he rebuilt the entire military he did not,

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Speaker 24: and then attacking Vice President Harris, he said Harris was

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Speaker 24: the first candidate to drop out of the twenty twenty

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Speaker 24: Democratic primary. There were actually thirteen others who dropped out

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01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 24: before her. He said Harris previously said she wasn't black.

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Speaker 24: Total fiction. He said people don't attend Harris rallies.

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Speaker 6: Thousands do.

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01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 24: Indeed, he said, people don't leave his own rallies early.

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Speaker 2: Some do.

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Speaker 24: And when it came to the twenty twenty election and

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Speaker 24: its own legal troubles, he said, there's so much proof

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Speaker 24: that twenty twenty election was stolen, there is not.

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01:26:58,880 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 12: It was not.

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Speaker 24: He said Nancy Pelosi turned down his offer of ten

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Speaker 24: thousand National Guard troops on January sixth. There's no evidence

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Speaker 24: she even got such an offer.

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Speaker 2: It was Trump, not the.

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Speaker 24: Speaker, who had the power to deploy the Guard. He said,

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01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,480
Speaker 24: no judge even looked at the merits of his allegations

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01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 24: about the twenty twenty election. Some judges actually did, and

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01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 24: his side still lost those cases. He said the Justice

1833
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 24: Department was behind a variety of legal cases it had

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01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 24: actually nothing to do with, and then a whole bunch

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01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:26,719
Speaker 24: of other lives on a variety of topics. He said,

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01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 24: crime is skyrocketing, is actually declining sharply. He said the

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01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 24: Central Park five pleaded guilty, They did not. They were

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01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 24: wrongly convicted. He said those men killed someone, it was

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01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 24: not even a murder case. He said he saved Obamacare

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01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 24: when actually he tried to kill it, and then weakened

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01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 24: it and he said, Harris has a plan to confiscate

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01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 24: quote everybody's gun.

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Speaker 17: She does not.

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01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 24: In twenty nineteen, she supported a mandatory buyback of assault

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01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 24: weapons in particular, and her campaign says she doesn't even

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01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 24: support that.

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01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 14: Now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but hold on, that was swaying a half minutes long.

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Speaker 7: What about Kamala.

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Speaker 24: Let's look at a one false claim that Vice President

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01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 24: Harris did make about the economic situation that the Biden

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01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 24: Harris administration was left by Trump. So the Biden Harris

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01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 24: administration was not actually left the worst unemployment since the

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Speaker 24: Great Depression. They were left a six point four percent

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Speaker 24: unemployment rate in January twenty twenty one. That was certainly

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01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:18,600
Speaker 24: elevated by recent standards, pretty high, but it was significantly

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01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 24: down from the fourteen point eight percent a level it

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Speaker 24: reached early in the pandemic, So it was already improving

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01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 24: at the time that Biden Harris administration took office. And

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Speaker 24: that six point four percent level was the highest since

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Speaker 24: the Great Recession, so in the last twenty years, not

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Speaker 24: going back decades further.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. It was a bit of a

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Speaker 2: boring one, Okay, It was a bit of a boring one.

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Speaker 2: It's almost she turned up and seid everything that was

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Speaker 2: kind of accurate. So there it is. If you disagree

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Speaker 2: with that, I know that Carrie, Nick and John are

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Speaker 2: standing by for your ticks this morning, and you can

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Speaker 2: you can have it out with him for I don't know,

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Speaker 2: next three outs. See how you go back tomorrow on

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