1 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: All right, fellas, and we're recording. It's Wednesday, the ninth 2 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: of October twenty twenty four. 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: Welcome a long Do you guys find it tough now 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: doing the podcast because for the longest time we just 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: kind of start up recording and then Meddi would just 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: go somewhere and then we'll be like, Okay, that's where 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: we're going today. But now it's actually up to us. 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: We've got to figure out what we have to talk 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: about for the next kind of twenty five to thirty minutes. 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: So you boys got anything if you brought anything to 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: the table today. 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 3: Julane, Well, there's a few spu stories I couldn't say 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: on here, or should we start? We can go there 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: because I mean I did poos what you poos to spews? 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: Poos to spews basically in a day. So what's the 16 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: next body flow? The only one that we've got left 17 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: is the number yeah, number three juice. 18 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 3: Okay, well, luckily I'm not here tomorrow. Thankful save that 19 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: for Monday. That number three bags stories that'll have to 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: be for the podcast only. 21 00:00:58,680 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine. 22 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they'd be safe on here. 23 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: Well, the kids are on holiday at the moment, nobody's 24 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: driving their kids to school, so probably not so worried 25 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: about that the kids in the car. Then again, how 26 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: many people are listening with kids in the car? 27 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 3: I mean I say that as well as if you're 28 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 3: listening to herd Ache in the car with the kids, 29 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: you should expect there should be no surprises, really, because 30 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: if you want full missionary, go listen to the hits 31 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: or go listen to the goes in the coast. If 32 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 3: you want some missionary, just bland shit. But if you 33 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: want your kids to learn about what a number three 34 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: and number two is, you want your kids to learn 35 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 3: best viewing techniques. If you want to teach your kids 36 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: how not to attach pornography to your bluetooth while whacking 37 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: off from the toilet, then listen to herd Ache. Yeah. 38 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: The only issue is that they will hear a couple 39 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: of things and then they'll ask questions. This is always 40 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: the thing if I think as a parent, if you 41 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: knew that what the kids were going to hear was 42 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: going to be explained scientifically afterwards, yes, then you'd be 43 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: like for me, I'd welcome all commers, be like, oh whatever, 44 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm happy to sit through that with the kids, it's fine. 45 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: The issue comes where you hear something and then the 46 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: kids say, so what is that? 47 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 3: What's a pelican? And then you go. 48 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: What's the pelican? He said, Well, that's where a person 49 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: spews into another person's mouth and you sort of pass 50 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: it around that way. 51 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: What is space docking? Dad? 52 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: And you're like, well, that's where you dock a force 53 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: gun and a penis together and to give that sort 54 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: of frontways like you like a space station. 55 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: Why do people do that? Dad? I got that last night. Actually, 56 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: I got that. Went over to the neighbors for a 57 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 3: spa and the sons at University in christ Church, and 58 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: he'd seen a photo to his parents of him naked 59 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 3: up a tree and. 60 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: On purpose or by mistake, on purpose, all. 61 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: Of his friends up a tree naked and. 62 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: Were they doing the possum chilling? 63 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: That's exactly what I said. I said, were they playing possum? 64 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 3: And then Ralph, my eldest, goes, what's possum? And I went, well, possums. 65 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: When you climb a tree with box of beer. Everyone 66 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: climbs a tree with a box of beer and the 67 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: last person to fall out of the tree wins. And 68 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: he goes, why do you fall out. So if you 69 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: need to go for a purse or a bit too drunk, 70 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: you fall out of the tree and he goes, did 71 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 3: you play it? I mean, of course I did. He goes, 72 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 3: did you win? I said, of course I did. 73 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: Of course I did so. 74 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 3: And then he started getting into the details around how 75 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 3: many beers was it. I was like, it's like a 76 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: box bear, so twelve beers? Because how strong were the beers? 77 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: Like into the details, Yeah, so I see like mid 78 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: strength and were talking kind of four percent wounders. They 79 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: were like Twoey's and kind of that kind of carry 80 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: on when I was at university. So not strong beers, Ralph, 81 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: not strongly. You're not not your rainbow beers or your 82 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: you know, your knife parties. The otherwise I would have 83 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 3: fallen head first out by wanting in the first to 84 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: fall out. Yeah, and he's like. 85 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I can see him just thinking, okay, yeah, you're 86 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: going to have an interesting few years there. 87 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: What's been the approach for you guys in terms of 88 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 2: parenting in around alcohol. Have you guys kind of exposed 89 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: them to alcohol early doors to hope that maybe when 90 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: they come to a time they start going out and drinking, 91 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: that they're not hiding that type of thing from you, 92 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: and all that kind of. 93 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: Stuff for so funny because you think that when you 94 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: as a reasonably I would describe myself as a reasonably 95 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: liberal person, and as a reasonably liberal person who's done 96 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: some things in their life, I always assume that when 97 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: it got to that point with my kids, I'd be like, 98 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: you know whatever. But oddly enough, I I in terms 99 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: of my fourteen year old's she's going to be fifteen soon. Yeah, 100 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: I've gone with a kind of middle of the pack approach, 101 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: which is like, I don't because you don't want to 102 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: be forcing your kids, and you don't want to feel 103 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: like you're forcing them into drinking. I mean, you've got 104 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: to be careful there because you don't want them getting drunk, 105 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: because it's you don't want your kids being drunk because 106 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: you know that it's doing them damaged, and you just 107 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 1: don't want to damage your kids. So it's quite weird. 108 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: I we allow, we allow. 109 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: And I put that in adverted commas because what actually 110 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: what happens compared to what is allowed is like everything 111 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: completely different. But Mishka is allowed to have four drinks, 112 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: which sounds like quite a lot. But she's but I 113 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: think about myself and I think about what I did 114 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: at that age, and I was drinking at thirteen, right, 115 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: So the end of third form I started drinking. So 116 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: end of year nine me and my friends were definitely 117 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: on the bows at that stage and fourth form not 118 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: all the time. 119 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 3: But wherever we could, yes, any any opportunity. Yeah, and 120 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: fourth form. 121 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: So year ten I tried pot yack and I was 122 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: definitely on the bows for form one. So how are 123 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: you doing these things? 124 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: Were you doing? 125 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: Were you like going to parties and stuff like that 126 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: at that time or was it more of just a 127 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: secret kind of round the back of the school. She'd type, 128 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: he's a bottle of tequila rostole from my dad's look 129 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: at keeping it. 130 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: There was a bit of that, but there was It 131 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: was you'd go around to people's houses whose parents had 132 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 1: gone away, so it was like whose parents had gone away, 133 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: Who's going away for the weekend, And then everyone would 134 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: say that they were staying the night somewhere, and then 135 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: we'd end up staying at this place or you or 136 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: sneak out all sorts of crap, you know, all the 137 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: same tricks that the kids are still oddly enough operating 138 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: today and the kids don't realize that you have done 139 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: the same thing. So it's quite a weird thing as 140 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: a parent because you you want to you don't want 141 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: to stop them from drinking, because in my experience, I'm 142 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: looking at some of the parents who are trying to 143 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: run a line like you're not allowed to drink, you're 144 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: too young, you're too young, and all those people's parents, 145 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: all those people's kids are getting really really rap faced 146 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: and expelling and stuff. So I don't know, it's quite 147 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: a hard line. 148 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: And but you don't. 149 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: Want to be encouraging it. 150 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 3: But you don't want to be discouraging it. It's not 151 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 3: you're not. 152 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: You kind of got to supervise it slightly. 153 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 3: You want them to be pest fit, you know, so 154 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: they go to the party and they're not, they're not 155 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 3: the story. 156 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely, So I'm kind of running a line 157 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: with most curious. So you don't want to be at 158 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: the front of the pack, but you probably don't want 159 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: to be at the back of the pack. You just 160 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: want to be in the middle of the pack where 161 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: everyone else is. That's and also try and say to it, 162 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: you've got to learn your limits. Don't drink too quickly, 163 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: because what actually happens is so we give her four 164 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: drinks and then all of a sudden, someone's found some 165 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: extra ones from somewhere else. I found some stashed up 166 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: the driveway and a bin. I was like, one of 167 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: these doing here. She's like, oh, someone must have come 168 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: off the road and put them now. I was like sure, 169 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: I said, oh, okay, but you know, they'll find extra 170 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: drinks because that falls not quite enough because they're wanting 171 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: to get you know, but I'm trying you to just 172 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: make sure you drink slowly, have some food before you 173 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: go out, don't have a drink on an empty stomach, 174 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: take your time because they actually the best feeling that 175 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: you get from alcohol is when you eat food and 176 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: you drink slowly. And that's what it's meant to be. 177 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: It's not meant to hit you really really fast, because 178 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: what that is is your body not processing the alcohol. 179 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: Is drunkenness is an inability for your body to process 180 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: the alcohol in time. That's all drunkenness is. Right, So 181 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: if you drink ready really slowly, if you drink, drink 182 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: a tiny little sip for you know, twenty four hours 183 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: and you's had to sip every ten minutes. You you 184 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: can drink for days. You can just keep going, going, going, 185 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: and don't even get drunk. But it's the overwhelming. It's 186 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: the it's overwhelming your body with the poison that can't 187 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: process it. 188 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: Best drinking game. 189 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: For me, I always liked what was a good drinking game. 190 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: There's Hermit. There's a Hermit. I'm thinking all the ones 191 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: I did when I was flatting. There's Hermit, which is 192 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: basically you get a twenty four beers or twelve beers, 193 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 3: go to your room, lock yourself in your room, and 194 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: everyone in the flat locks themselves in the room by 195 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: themselves and finishes the drinks and then comes out into 196 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: the lounge at the same time. 197 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: Now, when you see best drinking game, that's not really 198 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: a drinking game. That's more sort of just heavy alcoholism. 199 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: With a meal. With a meal we take KFC and 200 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: with us as well, obviously we're drinking responsibly. This is 201 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: back in university days. 202 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and my unie days. 203 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: We used to start every night with the five and fifteen, 204 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: which is just kind of gets gets the wheels rolling, 205 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: which you do the first vessel in five and then 206 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: you do the second vessel in four and it just 207 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: gets you know, five drinks and you in fifteen minutes, 208 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: and that gets things kind of moving. 209 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: That's good. High. 210 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: Lower for me is the is the game which really 211 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: has lasted my lifetime, which I've never come across a 212 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: game which is more effective at destroying every single person 213 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: who plays it, but just in different times. So you 214 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: think at first that the cards are going your way. Yes, 215 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: but in this basic game, you know, where you get 216 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: a deck of cards, shove them up, and then you 217 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: put a card down and say, if it's a six, 218 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: you've got to You've got to before you put the 219 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: next card down and you pick it, you've got to 220 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: say whether it's going to be high or other than six. 221 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: And you think that sometimes the cards are going away 222 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: because you've got I've got rolls around the gray area. 223 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: You know, if it's an eight and the card before 224 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: and I've got a call on an eight and the 225 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: card before was a six, I keep going up, so 226 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: I'll go higher in that situation, whereas if I'm coming 227 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: down from a jack to an eight, I'll go lower. 228 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: So through an eight and a nine, through the gray 229 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: area blackjack. 230 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: It's the area of uncertainty, isn't it. 231 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I've never seen anybody ever get out of 232 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: that game. If you play it for an hour without 233 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: being completely destroyed, even through the gray, the cards will 234 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: turn on you eventually. 235 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: We are. We had a game called heaps, and what 236 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 3: you do is usually revolved around a super rugby game 237 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: or a rugby league game. Guy Johnston actually was a 238 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 3: big fan of heaps when he was living with us, 239 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: and we would pick a player and every time that 240 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 3: player touched the ball. You've got to drink heaps. 241 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: How much is heaps? 242 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: It's up to you. It's your determines what your capacity is. 243 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: That's quite an adult sort of a thing. 244 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: It's not draconian, no, So it's like, but if you're 245 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 3: a big drinker, you just finish, you can and drink heaps. 246 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 3: But then stupidly people would pick like the half back. 247 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: People are just sick. You don't want to do that. 248 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: I would. I would pack a prop. Yeah. There was 249 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 3: a time where we you just put them in and 250 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: we drew them out after that because people were staying 251 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: to be a bit more technical around the game of heaps. Yeah, 252 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: and also, if you've got the halfback, your definition of 253 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: heaps could just be a sick because you're basically halfback's 254 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: touching it. 255 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does end up being heaps over a five 256 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: minute period. Yeah, have you guys ever played winning bingo? 257 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: So when you have a table and then you write 258 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: down a whole lot of word like love, beautiful, the 259 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: names of the bride and the groom, and then every 260 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: time and then you you dip them into a hat 261 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: and then you pick it out, and then every time any 262 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: of those words are mentioned in the speech, you have 263 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: to drink. 264 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've ruined many. I do it also at prize giving, 265 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: So I did it famously. The last time I ever 266 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: got invited to the Hellbergs, I did this at the table. 267 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: And because Helbergs are fucking boring, and I was at 268 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: the table invited by A and Z, let's just say 269 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 3: I never. 270 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: Got invited back and I strike number ten. 271 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: So I was at the table and at the hell 272 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 3: Bergs we had a couple of Paralympic athletes as well, 273 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 3: and they were fucking up for it hard. So I 274 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 3: was like, right, guys, I sat at the table. Heyay, guys, 275 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: these are fucking boring. Let's make this interesting. We all 276 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: know it's going to be boring. Let's make it interesting. 277 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: I'm going to write down ten names, ten ten words, honored, privileged, 278 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: hard work, all the things, all the speeches, and it 279 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: concludes the videos when the video montages come as well 280 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 3: handed them all out. Anyway, we started getting really hammered, 281 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: to the point where someone would say I'm honored, and 282 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: our table would go, oh, this. 283 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: Is the same thing as winning Bengo. The issue is 284 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: that all of a sudden they go, I just love 285 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: my beautiful wife and you, and they're like, what the 286 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: hell is going on? 287 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 3: Anyway, it ended with me spelly a glass of red 288 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: wine all over the sponsorship manager of van Zi and 289 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 3: she said, Mike, that's enough for you. You can leave now. 290 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: Oh wow, nice you to leave. 291 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: So right, Yeah, that wasn't the time that you left 292 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: and then you passed out in the foyer. 293 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 3: That's that was the Cricket Awards. 294 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: Okay, well you can come back in just a moment 295 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: and tell us about that. Then we're back. 296 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 3: Look the Cricket Awards that I mean, that's not my 297 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 3: story to tell. I think Laura McGoldrick, as she was 298 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: the one that peeled me out of the cricketing alley 299 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 3: that they built this kind of well, it was the 300 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 3: Cricket Awards and it was at the Langham I think, 301 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: and there was a hallway and they dressed it all up, 302 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 3: that cricketing alley with signs for different stadiums and cricket 303 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: gear and trees and stuff, and it was like a 304 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 3: little experience he walked through before you got to the 305 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: to the ballroom. And I blame I blame Doug Bracewell. 306 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: I do you know why he won Bowler of the 307 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 3: Year that year Test Bowler of the Year when he 308 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: I think he won us that game in Hobart, yep. 309 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 3: And they interviewed him on stage. Eric Eric Young interviewed 310 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 3: him for forty minutes. 311 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Eric Young knows he knows how to 312 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: create a wake. Oh my god, you've turned up to 313 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: someone's wake. 314 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 3: I reckon. I drank a bottle and a half of 315 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: wine during that because it was so boring, and Doug 316 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: blessed Doug. He's a man a few words and he's 317 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: not going to give a great but Eric tried to 318 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: get everything out of him. So I blame that because 319 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 3: that was that was where I reached the tipping point. 320 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: And then I went and kicked heath Mills Players Association 321 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 3: CEO and the balls while he was talking to the 322 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: president of New Zealand Cricket. 323 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: Any reason why he kicked him on the balls, I 324 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: just saw. 325 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 3: Him the hes open exposed. Then well, that same night 326 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 3: Victory ended up urinating in the cloak cupboard, so there 327 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: was there was other villains around that night, including Tim Southy. 328 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: Well for Tory claims of his story of that night, 329 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: he claims that I remember I got a text the 330 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: next day and it just said Lain was a disgrace. 331 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: He was, That is him, that's thro throwing Mark just 332 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 3: Laane was a disgrace. He thought he confused the cloak 333 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: cupbod where everyone's coats were with the urinal. Then he 334 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 3: ended up in there winging all over everyone's coats. So 335 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: he can't really talk on that front. But I was 336 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: a more public disgrace because I I had to leave. 337 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: I was wasted, but I couldn't quite and I think 338 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: James ware who was the commercial manager of New Zealand Cricket, 339 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: spotted that I was in a in a bit of 340 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 3: a state when he saw me halfway out one of 341 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: the signs and Crickets way and the display as it 342 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: fell over and I crushed it, and I think Laura 343 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: McGoldrick came along. She kind of helped out and see 344 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: Jesus Lane, get the fuck out of here. And I 345 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 3: was like, and I was put into a taxi. I 346 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: was put into a taxi by James Ware and this 347 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 3: only Cricket paid for the taxi as well, because I like, 348 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: get this guy the fuck out of here. So yeah, 349 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: I haven't got a great track record. So that's why 350 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: the ACC we're actually doing our own sports awards at 351 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: the start of next year, the night before the Hallberg's, 352 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: We're doing the Chaney's the Snack of Chaney Sports Awards 353 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: with the ACC. So we're doing our own sports awards 354 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: for all the disgraced people who can no longer attend 355 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: sports awards. We've got one. Is it virtual or is 356 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: it actually? How We're going to have it and at 357 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 3: iHeart Lounge. 358 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: Are we sure we want to do that? 359 00:15:59,240 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? Fuck you? 360 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: Are you sure? Yeah? 361 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 3: Because we're gonna The categories are better though, because they're 362 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: like biggest sports blow out, biggest commentary curse, biggest sporting 363 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: hot take, best haircut, best mustache, you know, stuff that 364 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: people really care about in sports awards. So the Snacker 365 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: Changy it's gonna be in February. We're doing yeah, but 366 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 3: we're doing nominations pre Christmas though. So it's one of 367 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: these things where I've been I'm not welcome in any 368 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: awards anymore. 369 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: So I've bilt my own smart Smart. That's That's kind 370 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: of the story of your life, really, isn't it. You're 371 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: not welcome in certain places. 372 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: Last night I had my partner Lauren around staying the night, 373 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: and she obviously works for you, Julane, in the commercial department, 374 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: and she's told a very different side of that story. 375 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: And and look, I know it's going to break you 376 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: out to find out that there's someone a little bit 377 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: less passionate about the Snacker changing sports awards. 378 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: She came home last night, Jerry, She came home last night. 379 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 3: J says. 380 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: You never gets what ju Lane what's to do next year. 381 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: You'll never gets what. 382 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: It's a bit of work to work for other people. 383 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: Off and you'll never get what Gelane wants to do 384 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: next year. He was the host of his own Sports 385 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: Awards for all the people that have been kicked out 386 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: of previous sports awards, and he wants to put it 387 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 2: in the foyer of our corporate building here in Auckland, CBD. 388 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: And she's so right now, ge Lane, I'm glad you're 389 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: feeling positive, but look, I don't know if it's going 390 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: to give you. 391 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 3: Oh. Look, there's a bit of work for people, to 392 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: be honest, there's a little bit of work to be 393 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 3: done behind the scenes. But Lee Harts, he's behind it. 394 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: He's going to help co host it. Snakes. 395 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: That doesn't make it any list. 396 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: I'm talking in front of house. Yeah, I'm back your house. 397 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: That can work itself out. The careategrees most important, but 398 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: is like the categories. We've got to get the categories 399 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 3: right and the voting right because it's the people's people's 400 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 3: choice pre Christmas. 401 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: Could we do like a plus like under eighty five's awards, 402 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: So you've got you got there, So everyone that's under 403 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: eighty five kilograms is. 404 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: Just any award but for under eighty five. But you've 405 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: got an under eighty five subsection of every award. That's 406 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: quite good. 407 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 2: Okay, so under eighty five's you know, so this award 408 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: is were that we're going to celebrate. 409 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what's an award that you think. 410 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 3: We're doing the biggest sporting blowout in terms of off 411 00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: feel blowout. 412 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: It's fantastic we do under ready five kg underady five. 413 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: That that there's a weight restriction. Yeah, that does make 414 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: a lot of sense. 415 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 3: What opens it up, doesn't it? It makes it fair? 416 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. 417 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: And then I don't know, like Smittye for example, you know, 418 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 2: Notorius for a massive blow out on the on the w. 419 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he can. He's in the open section. That's he's 420 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: definitely in the open section. It's not the weight restricted many. 421 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 3: Under eady fives though, I mean it's going to be 422 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 3: hard to do, Yeah, it is. 423 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: I mean mainly women won't be ready five. 424 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 425 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 2: Can you think of any sporting blow outs that have 426 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 2: happened on the female side of things lately? 427 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: When we're talking blowout? What does blood? Blood? 428 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 3: Off field? Off field indiscretion? You know when whitewash investigations 429 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: come in and try and sweep it under the carpet. 430 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 3: N r L n r L is an absolute field 431 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 3: for it. 432 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: Well, you would have thought that surely the was the 433 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: Ramphilly shield. 434 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 3: Was that this yeral last year last year with the 435 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: last year the reason, Yeah, the reason on it what's 436 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: been a big sporting blow out. I can't even think 437 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: n r L n r L have provided quite a few. 438 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 3: We've got that's where the categories. We are going to 439 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 3: go out with the categories for people to vote on that. 440 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: And it's going to be fun. Now I'll take about 441 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: what I said earlier. 442 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 3: Lash. Yeah, No, it's a it's a sports awards that 443 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 3: what they should be. There's a mixture of success and 444 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: just lunacy as well. And I think that the Hellbergs 445 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: is missing a little bit. They need to Pello the 446 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: media a little bit more in it. It's too earnest. 447 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: Can we get some money from big tobacco because oh yeah, 448 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: that's the other thing that sports awards lack nowadays. Yeah, 449 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: big fags nothing, nothing from Rothman's, nothing from B and H. 450 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: Surely they've got some money sloshing around. 451 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. That's a good idea actually, because they 452 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: can't spend it on marketing, but they can spend it 453 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 3: on events. 454 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: It's just a lot of money in Big fag, huge. 455 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 3: Money in Big Fag particularly they've moved into vapes. That's why. 456 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what. We've been to Europe. Saw 457 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: two people vaping. I saw two people vapes in Europe. 458 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 3: Now everyone's on the analogs now they on the heat is. 459 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: Hard, so that's still right, okay fuck yeah, yeah, Well 460 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: they're not quite as harsh in terms of their anti 461 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: smoking stuff. So as a result, I mean, yeah, as 462 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: a result, everybody's still on the on the proper darts. 463 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 3: Yeah. So they spend all their money. I did a 464 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 3: bit of work for a big fag in London for 465 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 3: BAT in London, and they spend all their money on 466 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: sales incentives. And so if you're if you're you're selling 467 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 3: fags into dairies or supermarkets or whatever, if you're a 468 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 3: good salesperson, they'll reward you with the most amazing conference 469 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 3: you'll ever see. Like you go away and no expense, 470 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 3: spear because all that marketing spend gets spent on incentives 471 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 3: for sales, for direct sales, because they can't spend it 472 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: on that. So maybe we should just maybe they can 473 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 3: just do the event and we can just have a 474 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: little kind of fag dispenser in the corner. 475 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: That's what they want, I mean, could they run it? 476 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: I reckon as well if I was involved in big 477 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: fag marketing. Yeah, I'd be running anti fag the whole time. 478 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: I'd be I'd be running anti fag marketing as my marketing. Okay, 479 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: so you just constantly you actually, you can spend the 480 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: money by saying that this is this is don't vape. Yeah, 481 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: this is a non vape blah blah blah blah. But 482 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: it's just saying the word vape all the time. 483 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. And then and as a kid, you'd be like, well, 484 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: they're saying don't do it. One hundred percent. 485 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: I think if you're saying people don't do it, I 486 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: think more and more people will totally. 487 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 3: That's what I do. 488 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: I just completely focus on the opposite because what do 489 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: you got to lose. You're not going to drive people 490 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: away from it, It's impossible. Yeah, I think the vaping 491 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: part of it. I see that Philip Morris is mess 492 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: of the puge on the vapor. 493 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, well they all are. They all are, but they 494 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 3: just start up little you don't know they're part of them. 495 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: Most of the big vapes around our own by big fag. 496 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: What percentage of big. 497 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: V big v are owned by big fag big fag. 498 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, percentage of a peck of darts ends up going 499 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: back to Big Fag, like, how much of that is taxing? 500 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: Is the market with the prices increasing, is Big Fag 501 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: now earning more money? 502 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: No, the money is going to in Texas, Texas. And 503 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 3: the justification of that is the healthcare requirements of someone 504 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 3: who's a lifetime fagure who requires more healthcare. 505 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well that makes sense. Yeah, tobacco exercised duties sorry, 506 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: tobacco excise dudies u ngs to currently account for seventy 507 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: percent of the retail price of most cigarettes. 508 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 3: Seventy percent of forty bucks? 509 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 2: Is that right, that's yeah, I'd go another ten on 510 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: top of that. These days, Dell is nodding at me 511 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 2: out fifty bucks. 512 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: Now, you can't bump, you can't pack a twenties, you 513 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: can't bumm a fag. You can't bumm a fag. These 514 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 3: days it's like three bucks. 515 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: Because if you've bomb a fag and then you throw 516 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: it on the pavement and then yeah, you've got half 517 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: a fag left there. 518 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah you're you're you've just pretty much put five bucks 519 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: on the grid. Yeah, oh man, roll is cheaper. 520 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: Roll yeah yeah, yeah, rollings are cheaper. 521 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: But mose yes, so. 522 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 3: Much, headman. So much Edman. 523 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: What's the most expensive place to buy what's the country 524 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: the most expensive cigarettes in the world? Yiss, Singapore, No, 525 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: New Zealand, Australia, the New Zealand second, and then Norway, Iceland, 526 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: Canada cheap, Singapore, France really finance, Switzerland cheapest. Who's the 527 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: cheapest fag cheapest? 528 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 3: So it'll be like maybe China. 529 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: I'm I reckon it's going to be somewhere in like 530 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: Africa a recon deapest. Where do they grow with the 531 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: tobacco everywhere? 532 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 3: Certain climates, certain climates lead themselves to big. 533 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: Fag doesn't need warmth. Yep, cigarette priceless. It was the 534 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: cheapest cigarettes, cheapest country. 535 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 3: I think it's it's it's asral Africa must be looking 536 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 3: at I reckon, isn't illegal importan Zimbabwe? 537 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: Ah? 538 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 3: What two dollars thirty? Ye? 539 00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: And then for a local breeders about Kazakhstan two dollars 540 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: forty for a pack? Yeah, Vietnam three bucks in Vietnam? 541 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: Are they just living on the theory that like, if 542 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 2: you decide to keep smoking the n. 543 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: S's your own fault on you just whatever? Yeah, yeah, 544 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: I suppose they don't. Oh wow, this This is actually 545 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: bloody interesting this line. I mean, I remember when I 546 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: was in libbya that cigarettes was so cheap. Well, I've 547 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: got it's just some weird age verification thing. 548 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 3: Zimbabwe. 549 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so hold on Zimbabwe, well o point six 550 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: US dollars, So that's way cheaper is that per cigarette? 551 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: It's the leading producer of tobacco in Africa. 552 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 3: Oh okay, so they've got the supply. 553 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: Fourth global production in Zimbabwe. 554 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 3: Yep, I shouldn't even knew that. 555 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: There you go. Kazakhstan is a dollar fifteen US cross 556 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: sic and State revealed tobacco smoking emerged as the second 557 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: most significant respector okay boy. 558 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: Vietnam. 559 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Vietnam dollar twenty four US for a pack, and and. 560 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 3: It's forty bucks in New Zealand. Yeah, forty bucks. It's good. 561 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: So it's so a prevalent aspect of Vietnam smoking. God 562 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: is the customer use of cigarettes as a means of salutation. 563 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: In other words, you know you yeah, when you see someone, 564 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: you have a SIGI with them. It's also one of 565 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: the ten best places to buy cheap cigarettes. The Philippines 566 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: dollar forty seven yea for a pack US. 567 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: I know that's where we get I have heard allegedly 568 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: that that's where we get a lot of our cigarettes 569 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: that are. 570 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 3: Sold coming in smuggled and steel beams. 571 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, via the Philippines. I think Turkey dollars sixty four. 572 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, heaps of people in Turkey smoke hockey. 573 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 3: They love fucking a heater there. 574 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: You're still smoking inside over the percent. Russia two dollars 575 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: six US. 576 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: It's of course still quite cheap. I though thought Russia 577 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 3: would be more expense. Russia, they love it. They love 578 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 3: a sigi. Yeah. 579 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: Egypt two dollars ten in Egypt. 580 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Middle East love lie arrier you Gistan blah blah 581 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. So there you go. 582 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, it's the usual suspects. I remember going to 583 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: Greece twenty years ago and in the in those days, 584 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: you know, smoking was just sort of being barreden bars 585 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: in New Zealand and Australian and stuff in the US, 586 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: and which at the time, believe it or not, was 587 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: oddly controversial. Looking back on it makes complete sense now, 588 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 1: but at the time it was quite controversial when they 589 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: did that could just be able to smoke and bars meshy, Yeah, 590 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: you know. 591 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 3: On the dance floor, I made so many cigarette on 592 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 3: the back of my on the back of my hand, 593 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 3: like mainly on my tricep berea because you're dancing and. 594 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: Oh fuck yeah against someone. 595 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 3: Usually hammered with the Siggies, lighting people's hair on fire. 596 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: Yes, I was in Greece and we're on the we're 597 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: on a faery going from Perez to siff Noss and 598 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: Ireland and the cycle of these holy crap, I reckon. 599 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: Eighty percent of the people on board was smoking inside. 600 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 3: It was just full clouds of smoke. 601 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: You had to go outside to get away from the smoke. 602 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: Anywhere there's no smoking, no smoking sections. Yeah, the entire 603 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: boat was smoking. I was amazing that thing didn't. 604 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 3: Burn like that. 605 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: Nobody accidentally put their butt out or something like. It 606 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: was so gross. It just reeked of stale smoke plus 607 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: the actual smoke in the air man. The Greeks in 608 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: those days, they could smoke a SIGGI my word. 609 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: We did some work in China in Beijing, and I 610 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 3: remember being in the hotel and getting in the lift 611 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: and a guy got in the lift, lit the fag 612 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 3: up in the lift and was smoking in the lift 613 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 3: with me as we went down like twenty floors smoking away. 614 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, fucking how like chugging away, and then 615 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 3: his goes keeps. He did not even budge eyes fucking 616 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 3: buckled over laughing because he just ripped ass right in 617 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 3: front of me while chugging his dart. Doors open, he 618 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 3: just walks out, and I was like, I know you. 619 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't mind the seeking n fart, You've 620 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: never minded that, but I know you hate second and 621 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: smoking because when we went to Japan that time, Heath 622 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: and I purposely bought a pack you sigis because they're 623 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 1: so cheap and you could smoke inside, and we just 624 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: both we went on either side of you at that 625 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: at that restaurant, and both of us just lit up 626 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: at done it while you were eating. 627 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 3: I was trying to enjoy. I think it was a 628 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 3: ramen or some noodle. So I'm leaned over the noodle 629 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: bowl and I have you two funck words either side, 630 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 3: like bum smell, like just chuffing away, not concentrating on 631 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 3: your own meal, just just drawing on the on the 632 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 3: cigarette and then just blowing it in my face either side. 633 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: Comedy smoking is what it is. It was so enjoyable. God, 634 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: it was nice to I mean, I didn't enjoy the 635 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: extra smoking part, but god, it was got the second 636 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: hand part of it. Watching your face. You were dark. Well, 637 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: you were genuinely obvious, the darkest I think try me. 638 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,479 Speaker 3: I was in a fucking cigarette and Andrew Mulligan was 639 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 3: was there as well, and he just stuff as terrible 640 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 3: asthma and so he was on the other side. He 641 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 3: was having an asthma attack on the other side of 642 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 3: the table and he is like three meters away. That's right, man, Yeah, alright, alright, okay, 643 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 3: it's got to be Should we knock this on the head? Yeah, 644 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: we'll await us. 645 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: Okay, they're right.