WEBVTT - The Resident Builder podcast: January 12, 2025 0:00:06.815 --> 0:00:10.015 You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter 0:00:10.135 --> 0:00:12.015 Wolfcamp from News Talks at Bay. 0:00:14.535 --> 0:00:19.975 A house is a hole, even when it starts, even 0:00:20.015 --> 0:00:24.935 when the grass is overgrown in the yard, and even 0:00:24.975 --> 0:00:29.295 when the dog is too old to barrow, and when 0:00:29.335 --> 0:00:35.455 you're sitting at the table trying to start have scissor hole, 0:00:36.655 --> 0:00:42.255 even when we move a band, even when you're there alone. 0:00:53.375 --> 0:00:58.455 A house is a hole, even when those goes, even 0:00:58.495 --> 0:01:00.975 when you got around from the ones you love your 0:01:01.055 --> 0:01:06.495 most stream, those broken plaints, feeling from the wood. 0:01:08.415 --> 0:01:10.615 Locals visible when they're gone leaving the. 0:01:12.415 --> 0:01:20.535 House, even when we'll then, even when you're very. 0:01:20.655 --> 0:01:31.775 Long and a very very good morning, and welcome along 0:01:31.815 --> 0:01:34.615 to the Resident Builder on Sunday. Just coming up for 0:01:35.095 --> 0:01:38.455 eight minutes after six on what was proving to be 0:01:38.495 --> 0:01:42.135 a very lovely Sunday. It was a beautiful, beautiful glimpse 0:01:42.175 --> 0:01:44.255 of a sunrise that I saw on my way in 0:01:44.255 --> 0:01:48.095 this morning. Pretty spectacular moon with the clouds last night 0:01:48.135 --> 0:01:51.615 as well, high tide late in the evenings. It's all 0:01:51.655 --> 0:01:54.455 sounding pretty good. So if you've got a project that 0:01:54.575 --> 0:01:59.095 is underway that you would like to talk about, discuss, argue, 0:01:59.135 --> 0:02:01.495 maybe have a bit of a debate about which products, 0:02:01.495 --> 0:02:05.255 which methodology, how to find good trades people, how to 0:02:05.335 --> 0:02:09.615 keep things on bud. All things construction and building related 0:02:09.695 --> 0:02:12.135 we can talk about on the show this morning, as 0:02:12.175 --> 0:02:14.095 we always do here at news Talk s HEDB on 0:02:14.135 --> 0:02:16.415 a Sunday morning. Very good morning. My name's Peak wolf Camp, 0:02:16.455 --> 0:02:19.535 the resident builder, and this is a show all about 0:02:19.575 --> 0:02:22.855 your place. So if like me, you had a couple 0:02:22.895 --> 0:02:25.295 of little projects on during the course of the week, 0:02:25.655 --> 0:02:28.095 or you've got a couple little lined up for the 0:02:28.095 --> 0:02:31.695 weak ahead. Now I'm going to say I'm going to 0:02:31.695 --> 0:02:34.335 be doing vapor barrier. This is part of Healthy Homes 0:02:34.375 --> 0:02:37.815 Compliance on a project this week, But that would only 0:02:37.855 --> 0:02:41.255 be partly true. To be fair, I have a couple 0:02:41.335 --> 0:02:44.135 of guys coming to help me to do vapor barrier, 0:02:44.935 --> 0:02:47.535 and I suspect that I'll be really honest, they will 0:02:47.535 --> 0:02:50.735 spend more time crawling around under this particular unit than 0:02:50.815 --> 0:02:55.775 I might be. I am, therefore supervision, coordination, management and 0:02:55.895 --> 0:03:00.975 oversight rather than I've done my dash. I think crawling 0:03:01.015 --> 0:03:04.295 around underneath houses, I will probably be in there. We've 0:03:04.295 --> 0:03:06.055 got to clear out the space, We've got a level 0:03:06.095 --> 0:03:09.575 air off, We're going to install a vapor barrier down 0:03:09.615 --> 0:03:11.975 there's already under floor insulation that's been done on this 0:03:12.015 --> 0:03:14.615 particular property, and then we'll have a bit of a 0:03:14.655 --> 0:03:17.575 tidy up under there. Because it's amazing what ends up 0:03:17.615 --> 0:03:18.575 under the house, isn't it. 0:03:18.935 --> 0:03:19.135 You know? 0:03:19.215 --> 0:03:24.175 Typically it becomes the storage space in a flash way 0:03:24.215 --> 0:03:26.655 of looking at it. But typically it's just a dumping 0:03:26.695 --> 0:03:28.815 ground for stuff that you couldn't be bothered taking down 0:03:28.855 --> 0:03:32.615 to the tip. Or if you are like me, and 0:03:32.775 --> 0:03:36.015 there will be many who are for our sins, it'll 0:03:36.015 --> 0:03:40.095 be old need that one day. There will be that 0:03:40.135 --> 0:03:42.455 piece of timber, there will be that offcut, there will 0:03:42.495 --> 0:03:45.535 be I've put underneath the house the other day, like 0:03:45.735 --> 0:03:48.935 one quarter of a bag of pea straw. Now, why 0:03:49.015 --> 0:03:51.575 didn't I just use it up right? Oh no, no, no, 0:03:51.655 --> 0:03:53.135 I might be able to use that later on. I 0:03:53.255 --> 0:03:55.735 just pop down underneath the house with the half a 0:03:55.775 --> 0:03:58.335 bag of sap seven probably an old bag of cement 0:03:58.415 --> 0:04:02.655 that's rock solid by now, But it's all underneath the 0:04:02.775 --> 0:04:06.655 saying that the other day someone did say to me, look, 0:04:06.655 --> 0:04:09.295 we've got this little repair. I need a particular type 0:04:09.295 --> 0:04:11.895 of molding, and what they call an eve's molding, which 0:04:11.935 --> 0:04:13.655 looks like a bit of quarter around with a square 0:04:13.815 --> 0:04:16.575 edge on it. It's a typical sort of villa detail. 0:04:17.335 --> 0:04:19.215 We've just got a little rotten bit of that right 0:04:19.215 --> 0:04:21.535 at the end of the eve. Do you know where 0:04:21.535 --> 0:04:23.495 I can get it? And I was like, oh, stand 0:04:23.575 --> 0:04:26.775 by caller, straight underneath the house and there it was 0:04:26.895 --> 0:04:29.135 a piece that I had left over from a job 0:04:29.215 --> 0:04:33.575 from oh, I don't know, fifteen twenty years ago, but hey, 0:04:33.775 --> 0:04:35.455 I used it up and felt pretty good about that 0:04:35.495 --> 0:04:37.735 as well. So if you've got a little building project 0:04:37.735 --> 0:04:40.055 that is going on that you'd like to talk about, 0:04:40.135 --> 0:04:42.775 or a big building project that you'd like to talk about, 0:04:43.055 --> 0:04:45.895 or perhaps you'd like to talk about compliance and regulation, 0:04:45.975 --> 0:04:48.015 we can do all of that on the show this morning. 0:04:48.335 --> 0:04:52.615 If you have any particular painting questions, one of our 0:04:52.655 --> 0:04:56.255 painting experts, which is Bryce McDermott, regular contributor to the show, 0:04:56.655 --> 0:04:59.695 will be available from seven twenty this morning. So if 0:04:59.695 --> 0:05:04.375 you've got any specific text text those questions through any 0:05:04.415 --> 0:05:07.335 painting questions, I've got a a couple little lined up 0:05:07.375 --> 0:05:09.695 as well. I want to have a we look and 0:05:09.815 --> 0:05:13.415 think about the whether to go water borne enamel or 0:05:13.615 --> 0:05:17.735 oil born or solvent born enamels for exterior joinery again 0:05:17.895 --> 0:05:20.255 in an area that they just get. You know, it's 0:05:20.295 --> 0:05:23.855 north facing, right, it's timber, and it's north facing. It's 0:05:23.855 --> 0:05:26.095 going to move, it's going to crack. Which paint is 0:05:26.135 --> 0:05:29.495 the most suitable? So old Dash in there first, unless 0:05:29.495 --> 0:05:31.575 you beat me to it by sending a couple of 0:05:31.615 --> 0:05:35.695 texts about painting questions for Bryce, our painting expert from 0:05:35.815 --> 0:05:39.215 Razine at around seven twenty this morning. As always, we 0:05:39.295 --> 0:05:41.415 have tracked down a red Cline pass who is on 0:05:41.455 --> 0:05:45.015 the road this morning. He will be joining us at 0:05:45.055 --> 0:05:47.215 eight point thirty this morning. If you've got a building 0:05:47.295 --> 0:05:49.495 question though, and we always get busy a bit later 0:05:49.495 --> 0:05:51.495 in the show, so now is a great time to call. 0:05:52.015 --> 0:05:55.015 Eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Is that number? So eight 0:05:55.135 --> 0:05:57.375 hundred eighty ten eighty. If you'd like to text, the 0:05:57.495 --> 0:06:01.095 number is nine two nine two ISBZB from your mobile phone. 0:06:01.575 --> 0:06:04.335 And I've remembered my password for the email, so you 0:06:04.375 --> 0:06:06.975 can send me an email if you wish. That's Pete 0:06:07.055 --> 0:06:10.935 at newstalksb dot co dot z. So I trust you've 0:06:10.935 --> 0:06:13.135 had a good week. If you're back to work, I 0:06:13.175 --> 0:06:15.975 hope that's going okay. If you're sort of on that 0:06:16.375 --> 0:06:19.135 kind of part time. I'm sort of working, but I 0:06:19.215 --> 0:06:20.975 don't mind if I knock off a bit early and 0:06:20.975 --> 0:06:23.535 go to the beach. Good on you, and if you've 0:06:23.575 --> 0:06:26.015 managed to stretch out the summer holidays for another week 0:06:26.335 --> 0:06:29.215 or congratulations well planned. Oh eight one hundred eighty ten 0:06:29.295 --> 0:06:35.415 eighty is that number to call? M ah apparently otago 0:06:35.495 --> 0:06:38.855 this morning, but cloudy, cold and miserable has been since Thursday. 0:06:39.695 --> 0:06:42.455 Um talking about installation. Come back to that one in 0:06:42.495 --> 0:06:45.135 a minute. It's a good text. Actually, I want to 0:06:45.535 --> 0:06:48.135 be ah. I want texts already coming in. I want 0:06:48.135 --> 0:06:50.655 to build a large garden shed. It's going to need 0:06:50.655 --> 0:06:54.535 about one point five cubic meters of concrete. Should I 0:06:54.575 --> 0:07:01.135 do bags or get a truck in bags? To be fair, 0:07:01.175 --> 0:07:05.175 bags are great as in premax bags of sand and cement, 0:07:06.335 --> 0:07:08.895 but for one point five cubic meters you are going 0:07:08.895 --> 0:07:11.335 to need like a palette and a half of bags. 0:07:11.375 --> 0:07:14.695 It's interesting to do the numbers whether it would be 0:07:14.855 --> 0:07:18.295 cheaper at one point five cube. I would go for 0:07:18.335 --> 0:07:21.935 a truck to be fair, and there's a couple of benefits. 0:07:21.935 --> 0:07:24.455 One is I think you'll probably find that it's better 0:07:24.575 --> 0:07:26.495 mixed in a truck. Than it is. You're doing it 0:07:26.535 --> 0:07:29.775 in a wheelbarrow by hand, with a whole bunch of bags. 0:07:30.615 --> 0:07:34.815 Dollars wise, I would say possibly be even a little 0:07:34.815 --> 0:07:38.855 bit cheaper. I think minimum load charges, so you get 0:07:38.855 --> 0:07:43.015 a small load fee from ready mixed suppliers. So if 0:07:43.055 --> 0:07:45.775 you're buying, like if you do point eight of a 0:07:45.855 --> 0:07:48.455 cubic meter, there will be the point eight of a 0:07:48.495 --> 0:07:51.615 cubic meter of concrete plus a small load chart. I 0:07:51.655 --> 0:07:53.815 think at one point five meters you probably missed that, 0:07:55.415 --> 0:07:58.495 And if you did want to do it yourself, then 0:07:58.575 --> 0:08:01.655 I would actually go for builders mixed bags of cement 0:08:01.775 --> 0:08:04.215 and hire a mixer. Go down to higher Paul, grab 0:08:04.295 --> 0:08:06.095 yourself a mixer and do it that way. I've done 0:08:06.135 --> 0:08:09.095 that couple of times. In fact, my first ever job, 0:08:09.735 --> 0:08:12.575 my first day of my first job building for my 0:08:12.695 --> 0:08:17.135 first boss, was on a Saturday morning of a public holiday, 0:08:17.335 --> 0:08:22.215 and he wasn't aware that the ready mixed plant was 0:08:22.255 --> 0:08:24.455 going to close on a Saturday of a public holiday 0:08:24.455 --> 0:08:27.775 of long weekend, so he straight when he found out. 0:08:27.815 --> 0:08:31.175 On Friday, he rang ordered six cubic meters of builders 0:08:31.215 --> 0:08:35.415 mix BM twenty and thirty six bags of cement and 0:08:35.495 --> 0:08:38.295 got his ratley old concrete mixer out and when I 0:08:38.375 --> 0:08:41.735 arrived on Saturday morning, it was like, Hi, this is 0:08:41.735 --> 0:08:44.895 what we're doing today. So six cubic meters through a 0:08:44.895 --> 0:08:47.535 concrete mixer. I can tell you it takes a while. 0:08:47.735 --> 0:08:50.855 It is fifteen minutes after six. A very good morning, 0:08:50.855 --> 0:08:53.015 and welcome along to the show. Oh eight hundred and 0:08:53.015 --> 0:08:56.415 eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Other great 0:08:56.495 --> 0:08:59.175 text about Limb. Report's got a story about that in 0:08:59.255 --> 0:09:01.415 just a moment before we'll talk to Chad first. Good 0:09:01.415 --> 0:09:06.695 morning Chad, Yeah, morning, and to you, to you. 0:09:08.175 --> 0:09:14.695 Excellent mete Just you've probably had this one hundred times 0:09:14.735 --> 0:09:20.935 over your career, of a thousand times, boundary fences between 0:09:23.255 --> 0:09:30.295 between two sections. I just want to know if someone 0:09:30.895 --> 0:09:37.415 builds offence right and they don't get your permission, you know, 0:09:37.615 --> 0:09:40.495 because I think you've got to get well, there's got 0:09:40.575 --> 0:09:43.775 to be some comms between the two parties. I'm sure 0:09:43.775 --> 0:09:49.455 of it, whether it's written or verbal. Just what's the 0:09:49.535 --> 0:09:52.815 story like if we turn up to our place for 0:09:53.855 --> 0:09:57.375 there's a new fence for between the two properties. The 0:09:57.415 --> 0:10:01.815 old fence has been removed and a new meat defense 0:10:02.495 --> 0:10:04.455 has been put up for one point. 0:10:04.335 --> 0:10:07.735 Nine, which is hate some few because you don't have 0:10:07.775 --> 0:10:11.455 to do anything. Is it? Is it a halfway decent fence? 0:10:11.495 --> 0:10:18.215 Does it look Okay, it's just it's just not not 0:10:18.415 --> 0:10:20.495 what how we wanted it. 0:10:20.735 --> 0:10:25.615 Yeah, sure, it's it's macrocarpa. And it's like and it 0:10:25.695 --> 0:10:30.455 starts drying out like they've already done another section around 0:10:30.535 --> 0:10:34.455 the back. When that timber starts drawing, obviously that the 0:10:34.655 --> 0:10:37.615 gap in the ends, you know, you can slide your 0:10:37.775 --> 0:10:39.095 slide your fingers. 0:10:38.695 --> 0:10:40.095 Through it, gotcha, yep. 0:10:41.815 --> 0:10:44.655 And then then we found out once they paid for 0:10:44.735 --> 0:10:48.495 their fence, we can't do anything with it, like we 0:10:48.575 --> 0:10:52.215 can't put a you know, like a decorative panel on 0:10:52.335 --> 0:10:55.255 it or or one of those pulled out clothes lines 0:10:55.335 --> 0:10:59.695 or anything because they paid for it. 0:11:00.015 --> 0:11:03.375 I don't know about that. That's an interesting one. Okay. 0:11:03.415 --> 0:11:07.255 So yeah, late last year, after a little while of trying, 0:11:07.255 --> 0:11:09.775 I managed to get a lawyer on the program who's 0:11:09.815 --> 0:11:13.255 a property law expert in Johnson came and join us, 0:11:13.295 --> 0:11:15.735 which was awesome. He's going to come back because we 0:11:15.775 --> 0:11:17.575 had a lot more to talk about. So, and what 0:11:17.655 --> 0:11:20.375 we were specifically talking about is the Fencing Act. So 0:11:21.535 --> 0:11:24.575 Fencing Act is quite clear if you are going to 0:11:24.615 --> 0:11:29.295 seek a contribution from a neighbor. You can only get 0:11:29.335 --> 0:11:32.135 that if you inform the neighbor beforehand, so you have 0:11:32.215 --> 0:11:34.495 to send a letter, you have to quote the Fencing Act, 0:11:35.255 --> 0:11:38.175 you have to provide some estimates of the cost, and 0:11:38.215 --> 0:11:43.015 then from that you can request a contribution to half 0:11:43.295 --> 0:11:47.535 the value of a standard fence. Arguably using macrocarpa, which 0:11:47.575 --> 0:11:51.375 is probably cheaper than more expensive than good old highness radiator, 0:11:51.935 --> 0:11:54.375 will mean that they've spent more on the fence. So 0:11:55.135 --> 0:11:57.455 in terms of you know, if you get a knock 0:11:57.455 --> 0:11:59.415 on the door and the guy's there going, hey, look yo, 0:11:59.455 --> 0:12:02.055 us a couple of grand then you are quite within 0:12:02.095 --> 0:12:04.535 your right side would say to say, I'm sorry you 0:12:04.535 --> 0:12:08.055 didn't inform me. I'm not going to contribute. Then the 0:12:08.095 --> 0:12:11.815 other question is exactly where if they put the fence. 0:12:11.975 --> 0:12:14.055 So it's quite possible that what they've done is put 0:12:14.095 --> 0:12:18.215 it solely on their side of the boundary, in which 0:12:18.255 --> 0:12:23.335 case it very much is their property. I would say 0:12:23.775 --> 0:12:26.975 if they've split you know, how often if you know, 0:12:27.095 --> 0:12:30.215 we know that the boundary line is a dead straight 0:12:30.335 --> 0:12:33.215 or typically a dead straight line, and in some cases 0:12:33.255 --> 0:12:35.655 you buy agreement with the neighbor, you can share that 0:12:36.055 --> 0:12:38.655 and put half the post half the fence on each side. 0:12:39.175 --> 0:12:42.935 So you know, if that was the case and part 0:12:42.975 --> 0:12:46.055 of the fence was on your side, again, it would 0:12:46.055 --> 0:12:47.255 have been good if they had to talk to you 0:12:47.255 --> 0:12:49.775 about that. But I would say, then you do own 0:12:49.815 --> 0:12:52.495 that side of the fence. If, however, the fence is 0:12:52.535 --> 0:12:57.135 solely on their property, you're right. You fixing some trellis 0:12:57.535 --> 0:13:01.775 or a pop up washing line, you probably can't do 0:13:01.895 --> 0:13:04.295 that without the permission of the neighbor. And they may 0:13:04.335 --> 0:13:04.695 say no. 0:13:06.375 --> 0:13:10.935 But if it's if it's fifty fifty like on the boundary, yep, 0:13:10.935 --> 0:13:14.695 if they haven't done it on their boundary, on their 0:13:14.735 --> 0:13:17.415 side of the boundary, it's a fifty fifty split. 0:13:18.175 --> 0:13:22.455 Wow, Well then then it's on your property, right, it's yours. 0:13:22.215 --> 0:13:23.575 Story, yeah, Roger. 0:13:24.775 --> 0:13:28.535 So then you have that argument like, you know, shit, 0:13:28.615 --> 0:13:31.495 we don't actually like that fence. We would have preferred 0:13:32.295 --> 0:13:33.215 a fence. 0:13:33.575 --> 0:13:34.975 So, yes, that's right. 0:13:34.895 --> 0:13:39.695 In that regard, it just turns into a shootout and like, legally, 0:13:40.535 --> 0:13:42.975 can I make them remove that fence? 0:13:43.095 --> 0:13:45.215 Fet and your view again? 0:13:45.255 --> 0:13:47.735 And I you know, obviously if you wanted to go 0:13:47.735 --> 0:13:49.895 and confront them, you'd want to go and seek legal advice. 0:13:49.935 --> 0:13:52.215 But I would have thought that if they have gone 0:13:52.255 --> 0:13:54.615 ahead and built a fence and it is partly on 0:13:54.655 --> 0:13:58.135 your property, you could ask them to remove that part 0:13:58.215 --> 0:14:02.775 because you haven't given your consent to that. Yeah, you know, 0:14:02.855 --> 0:14:07.215 and I've seen plenty of situations where you know, neighbors, 0:14:08.135 --> 0:14:10.935 for whatever reason right have decided not to consult with 0:14:10.975 --> 0:14:15.255 the impacted party and have just gone ahead built a 0:14:15.295 --> 0:14:17.375 new fence and they've done it, you know, fifty millimeters 0:14:17.415 --> 0:14:20.295 one hundred milimeters inside the property. I saw a weird 0:14:20.335 --> 0:14:22.535 one little while ago where they'd built like a meter 0:14:22.695 --> 0:14:24.255 inside because there was a whole lot of trees they 0:14:24.255 --> 0:14:27.055 couldn't be bothered taking, and they've just accepted, I'll lose 0:14:27.095 --> 0:14:28.575 a bit of land and I'll just put my fence 0:14:28.615 --> 0:14:31.695 where I want it to be, right, so I think 0:14:31.695 --> 0:14:35.215 of it. But if it's clearly and if the boundaries 0:14:35.255 --> 0:14:39.335 are clearly defined, then if it's on your side, then 0:14:39.615 --> 0:14:48.095 basically you own that. But but you know, hopefully these 0:14:48.135 --> 0:14:50.895 sorts of things can be discussed and you come to 0:14:50.935 --> 0:14:56.055 a reasonable adult sort of decision or reconciliation around it. 0:14:56.095 --> 0:14:59.175 But I think we've all been around long enough to 0:14:59.215 --> 0:15:03.055 know that not everyone acts rationally in these situations and 0:15:03.135 --> 0:15:09.255 people fall out over the silliest of things. Yeah, exactly, 0:15:09.375 --> 0:15:10.015 you know what I mean. 0:15:10.455 --> 0:15:15.655 Yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks for that. 0:15:15.975 --> 0:15:20.375 Enjoy, look after yourself, take care of Chad. See bye. 0:15:20.615 --> 0:15:22.615 Eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you've got a question, 0:15:23.535 --> 0:15:25.415 just before we go to our next caller, which is Paul, 0:15:25.455 --> 0:15:27.455 we've got some spare lines, so good time to call 0:15:27.575 --> 0:15:30.695 now eight hundred eighty ten eighty quick text that's come 0:15:30.735 --> 0:15:34.015 through A good morning peak. Do you always need to 0:15:34.015 --> 0:15:36.375 get a limb report when buying a house? What is 0:15:36.495 --> 0:15:42.135 actually in a limb report? So from Gordon Gordon, I 0:15:42.175 --> 0:15:45.295 would say that it would be the very least piece 0:15:45.335 --> 0:15:48.455 of due diligence that either you or your lawyer who's 0:15:48.495 --> 0:15:51.775 acting for the on the conveyancing side of things, would do. 0:15:53.095 --> 0:15:56.815 And so there's a limb is of land information memorandum. 0:15:57.255 --> 0:15:59.215 Typically it tells you a whole lot of things about 0:15:59.295 --> 0:16:02.055 the area on which you're buying. You know, are there 0:16:02.295 --> 0:16:06.375 particular natural hazards? Are you, for example, in a flood zone? 0:16:06.815 --> 0:16:10.215 What are the planning overlays? Are you in a heritage zone? 0:16:10.255 --> 0:16:14.535 Are you in a zone where development and planning restricts? 0:16:14.535 --> 0:16:17.375 The number of dwellings that could be put on the property. 0:16:18.295 --> 0:16:22.375 It might give you some indication as to where public 0:16:22.455 --> 0:16:27.935 services like storm water and waste water are. So yeah, 0:16:28.055 --> 0:16:30.895 I think it's not difficult to do. I think it's 0:16:31.095 --> 0:16:35.255 absolutely worth getting a LIMB report. There is also a 0:16:35.415 --> 0:16:38.295 pym SO Property Information Report that might give you a 0:16:38.295 --> 0:16:42.015 bit more detail on a specific property. And if you're 0:16:42.055 --> 0:16:44.535 really really wanting to sort of dig into it, you 0:16:44.615 --> 0:16:48.655 can ring council and request the property file, which is 0:16:48.855 --> 0:16:54.855 everything that any correspondence, any documentation that council have on 0:16:55.375 --> 0:16:59.015 that particular property. And I think, again, given the investment 0:16:59.375 --> 0:17:02.135 that we're talking about, I think that's worth doing as well. 0:17:02.615 --> 0:17:08.095 The other thing. Can I quickly add that I have 0:17:08.215 --> 0:17:11.855 spent quite a bit of time this well, sometime this 0:17:11.935 --> 0:17:16.095 week and over the last year and more, quite a 0:17:16.095 --> 0:17:20.935 bit of time trying to sort out a building consent 0:17:21.095 --> 0:17:24.735 that didn't get CCC right. So a building consent was 0:17:24.775 --> 0:17:29.415 issued for a project for whatever reason, the previous owner 0:17:29.455 --> 0:17:33.335 of the property didn't close out that consent by having 0:17:33.375 --> 0:17:37.095 a final inspection and then applying forum being granted a 0:17:37.415 --> 0:17:42.095 code compliance certificate. It then got on sold to someone 0:17:42.935 --> 0:17:47.215 who I'm acting for, who discovered later on that this 0:17:47.815 --> 0:17:51.375 building hadn't been issued at CCC and wanted to get 0:17:51.375 --> 0:17:55.335 that tidied up. So you know, if that's on the limb, 0:17:55.695 --> 0:17:59.335 then that's a really good thing to know because having 0:17:59.375 --> 0:18:02.775 worked on it quite considerably for quite some time, it 0:18:02.815 --> 0:18:06.055 can be a lot of work to get that sorted out, 0:18:06.095 --> 0:18:09.535 and in some cases it's actually not possible to get 0:18:09.575 --> 0:18:13.015 sorted out. Council will not issue a CCC in some cases. 0:18:13.295 --> 0:18:15.735 Then you have to go through a process of a 0:18:15.775 --> 0:18:20.895 certificate of acceptance that is also a truckload of work 0:18:21.015 --> 0:18:24.255 in most cases. So yeah, if you're looking at a property, 0:18:24.375 --> 0:18:27.855 get the limb and if that then happens to also 0:18:27.975 --> 0:18:30.455 say hey, here's a building consent there was issued that 0:18:30.575 --> 0:18:33.815 required a CCC. So building permits back in the day 0:18:34.415 --> 0:18:39.135 pre nineteen ninety two thereabouts didn't require a CCC, but 0:18:39.215 --> 0:18:43.255 anything since then under the New Building Act does require 0:18:43.255 --> 0:18:46.735 a SECC to close out a building consent, you want 0:18:46.775 --> 0:18:49.295 one of those, I can assure you, having spent a 0:18:49.335 --> 0:18:53.055 lot of time and effort to try and sort that out, 0:18:53.255 --> 0:18:55.255 and that's a work in progress for me. So that's 0:18:55.255 --> 0:18:58.215 what occupies part of my day. It is six twenty 0:18:58.215 --> 0:19:00.375 five will take short breaking back with Paul if you'd 0:19:00.415 --> 0:19:01.855 like to join us. Love to hear from you. Oh, 0:19:01.935 --> 0:19:05.255 eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call you 0:19:05.295 --> 0:19:08.455 and new stalks, you'd be really good. Texts coming in 0:19:08.535 --> 0:19:11.255 about multi unit developments in H one and so on. 0:19:11.295 --> 0:19:13.015 We'll get into that in just a moment, but Paul, 0:19:13.095 --> 0:19:15.055 thank you for waiting in a very good morning to. 0:19:15.015 --> 0:19:20.855 You, and good morning to you too. Water hammer, Yeah, yeah, 0:19:20.855 --> 0:19:24.775 it's lovely. I recently replaced a handbasin in our own 0:19:24.815 --> 0:19:29.095 suite and replace the two taps so they mix her yep. 0:19:29.295 --> 0:19:33.335 And now if you shut the cold water off too quickly, 0:19:33.655 --> 0:19:36.655 you get the knock in one of the pipes. Yes, 0:19:36.695 --> 0:19:39.375 I've been up in the roof and my wife's downstairs 0:19:39.375 --> 0:19:42.535 turning on and off taps all over the place. And 0:19:42.615 --> 0:19:46.255 the washing machine with the quick solin word valves does it. 0:19:47.815 --> 0:19:50.415 I tried an arrestor on the cold tap in the 0:19:50.735 --> 0:19:52.295 new handbasin. 0:19:52.215 --> 0:19:57.415 Right, what's the what does the arrestor do or what 0:19:57.415 --> 0:19:58.375 do you think it's going to do? 0:19:59.735 --> 0:20:04.415 Well that you put that on the back of the 0:20:04.575 --> 0:20:06.815 say cold water, then let until they hand based on 0:20:06.815 --> 0:20:10.255 the washing machine and it's like a shock absorber when 0:20:10.295 --> 0:20:14.895 you when you shut the cold off quickly or the 0:20:15.015 --> 0:20:22.175 washing machine, it absorbs the back pressure. Gotcha, and that 0:20:22.575 --> 0:20:25.895 hasn't worked. This might be a simple question, but is 0:20:25.935 --> 0:20:29.175 there a correct procedure to train the water out of 0:20:29.215 --> 0:20:31.735 all the pipes in your house? You're trying to eliminate 0:20:31.815 --> 0:20:40.335 air by turning the mains off, training the water from 0:20:40.415 --> 0:20:43.615 the highest tap in the house, Yes, which which is 0:20:43.655 --> 0:20:46.535 only the washing machine outlet because they're bar up on 0:20:46.575 --> 0:20:49.295 the wall, and I stick out to the lowest line, 0:20:49.295 --> 0:20:53.615 which is the garden hose. Then turn the round all 0:20:53.615 --> 0:20:56.295 the water out of the house, turn the mains back on, 0:20:57.295 --> 0:21:00.055 ran all the taps and you can hear the air 0:21:00.295 --> 0:21:02.615 spurting out of them. Yes, you know, for the life 0:21:02.615 --> 0:21:04.455 of me, I can't get rid of this water hammer. 0:21:04.615 --> 0:21:07.575 It's just a single knock. We neither the washing machine 0:21:08.055 --> 0:21:10.495 or that the mixer on the two handbasin get to 0:21:10.495 --> 0:21:11.295 shut off quickly. 0:21:11.855 --> 0:21:15.695 Right, Okay, So there might be two things happening. One 0:21:15.815 --> 0:21:19.095 is you've obviously gone through all of the sort of 0:21:19.695 --> 0:21:22.295 response to water hammer in terms of the amount of 0:21:22.335 --> 0:21:25.255 flow and so on. The other thing that can happen 0:21:25.495 --> 0:21:28.455 is that if you look at sort of modern practice. 0:21:28.535 --> 0:21:32.415 Let's say plumbers when they drill through my precious knogs 0:21:32.415 --> 0:21:37.175 and studs to put in their pipework. They will typically 0:21:37.215 --> 0:21:39.055 then once they've done all the pipe work and got 0:21:39.055 --> 0:21:42.215 everything sort doubt before the lining happens, go round with 0:21:42.335 --> 0:21:45.375 a corking gun and a bee and some silicon and 0:21:45.535 --> 0:21:49.415 seal around each of those penetrations, right, and that stops 0:21:49.495 --> 0:21:53.695 the actual physical pipe from moving and hitting the timber. 0:21:54.295 --> 0:21:58.335 Now that's a relative relatively new, probably in the last 0:21:58.335 --> 0:22:00.615 ten or fifteen years. But let's say, for example, you 0:22:00.695 --> 0:22:03.935 might have an old copper pipe that's running down the 0:22:03.975 --> 0:22:09.895 wall that probably won't have any ceilant around it. So 0:22:10.095 --> 0:22:13.175 copper pipes tended just to run straight through the knogs. 0:22:14.135 --> 0:22:16.535 They might in some cases I've seen they've got like 0:22:16.535 --> 0:22:19.575 a little copper clip that they'd fasten around them, but 0:22:19.695 --> 0:22:22.175 often cases not. So you've got maybe a twenty mili 0:22:22.175 --> 0:22:25.095 hole and a fifteen mil copper pipe. And if over 0:22:25.175 --> 0:22:27.735 time that's become a little bit loose, and as the pressure, 0:22:28.735 --> 0:22:31.535 regardless whether there's air in the line or not, comes 0:22:31.575 --> 0:22:33.975 on and off, it's enough just to move that pipe 0:22:34.015 --> 0:22:36.815 in the same way that you know yesterdayl's in the garden, 0:22:37.295 --> 0:22:39.215 rolled out the hose, turn the hose on. You can 0:22:39.215 --> 0:22:41.095 see the hose move right move. 0:22:41.255 --> 0:22:41.815 Yeah. 0:22:41.895 --> 0:22:46.935 So if you can identify the exact location of where 0:22:46.975 --> 0:22:49.615 the knock is coming from, and if it's consistently in 0:22:49.655 --> 0:22:52.175 the same place, it might be an issue of the 0:22:52.215 --> 0:22:55.135 pipe knocking against the hole of the timber in the 0:22:55.135 --> 0:22:56.055 hole that it goes. 0:22:55.895 --> 0:22:59.775 Through itself located that it's in the back of the 0:23:01.135 --> 0:23:05.855 on suite, yeah, cabinet, and then. 0:23:05.375 --> 0:23:08.615 The realistically the only option is cutting out a bit 0:23:08.655 --> 0:23:11.055 of the plaster board, having a look and see if 0:23:11.095 --> 0:23:13.535 that's where it is, and then you know, using the 0:23:13.575 --> 0:23:20.895 appropriate ceilant to just effectively provide a shock absorber around it. 0:23:21.255 --> 0:23:24.095 Prapped and yep, the pipes up there in the ceiling. 0:23:25.575 --> 0:23:27.975 And it was a night there trying to find there's 0:23:28.135 --> 0:23:30.615