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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter

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Speaker 1: Wolfcamp from News Talks at Bay.

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Speaker 2: A house is a hole, even when it starts, even

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Speaker 2: when the grass is overgrown in the yard, and even

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Speaker 2: when the dog is too old to barrow, and when

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Speaker 2: you're sitting at the table trying to start have scissor hole,

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Speaker 2: even when we move a band, even when you're there alone.

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Speaker 2: A house is a hole, even when those goes, even

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Speaker 2: when you got around from the ones you love your

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Speaker 2: most stream, those broken plaints, feeling from the wood.

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Speaker 1: Locals visible when they're gone leaving the.

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Speaker 2: House, even when we'll then, even when you're very.

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Speaker 3: Long and a very very good morning, and welcome along

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Speaker 3: to the Resident Builder on Sunday. Just coming up for

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Speaker 3: eight minutes after six on what was proving to be

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Speaker 3: a very lovely Sunday. It was a beautiful, beautiful glimpse

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Speaker 3: of a sunrise that I saw on my way in

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Speaker 3: this morning. Pretty spectacular moon with the clouds last night

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Speaker 3: as well, high tide late in the evenings. It's all

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Speaker 3: sounding pretty good. So if you've got a project that

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Speaker 3: is underway that you would like to talk about, discuss, argue,

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Speaker 3: maybe have a bit of a debate about which products,

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Speaker 3: which methodology, how to find good trades people, how to

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Speaker 3: keep things on bud. All things construction and building related

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Speaker 3: we can talk about on the show this morning, as

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Speaker 3: we always do here at news Talk s HEDB on

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Speaker 3: a Sunday morning. Very good morning. My name's Peak wolf Camp,

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Speaker 3: the resident builder, and this is a show all about

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Speaker 3: your place. So if like me, you had a couple

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Speaker 3: of little projects on during the course of the week,

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Speaker 3: or you've got a couple little lined up for the

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Speaker 3: weak ahead. Now I'm going to say I'm going to

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Speaker 3: be doing vapor barrier. This is part of Healthy Homes

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Speaker 3: Compliance on a project this week, But that would only

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Speaker 3: be partly true. To be fair, I have a couple

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Speaker 3: of guys coming to help me to do vapor barrier,

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Speaker 3: and I suspect that I'll be really honest, they will

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Speaker 3: spend more time crawling around under this particular unit than

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Speaker 3: I might be. I am, therefore supervision, coordination, management and

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Speaker 3: oversight rather than I've done my dash. I think crawling

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Speaker 3: around underneath houses, I will probably be in there. We've

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Speaker 3: got to clear out the space, We've got a level

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Speaker 3: air off, We're going to install a vapor barrier down

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Speaker 3: there's already under floor insulation that's been done on this

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Speaker 3: particular property, and then we'll have a bit of a

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Speaker 3: tidy up under there. Because it's amazing what ends up

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Speaker 3: under the house, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: Typically it becomes the storage space in a flash way

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Speaker 3: of looking at it. But typically it's just a dumping

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Speaker 3: ground for stuff that you couldn't be bothered taking down

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Speaker 3: to the tip. Or if you are like me, and

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Speaker 3: there will be many who are for our sins, it'll

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Speaker 3: be old need that one day. There will be that

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Speaker 3: piece of timber, there will be that offcut, there will

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Speaker 3: be I've put underneath the house the other day, like

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Speaker 3: one quarter of a bag of pea straw. Now, why

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Speaker 3: didn't I just use it up right? Oh no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I might be able to use that later on. I

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Speaker 3: bag of sap seven probably an old bag of cement

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Speaker 3: that's rock solid by now, But it's all underneath the

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Speaker 3: saying that the other day someone did say to me, look,

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Speaker 3: we've got this little repair. I need a particular type

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Speaker 3: of molding, and what they call an eve's molding, which

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Speaker 3: looks like a bit of quarter around with a square

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Speaker 3: We've just got a little rotten bit of that right

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Speaker 3: at the end of the eve. Do you know where

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Speaker 3: I can get it? And I was like, oh, stand

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Speaker 3: by caller, straight underneath the house and there it was

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Speaker 3: a piece that I had left over from a job

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Speaker 3: from oh, I don't know, fifteen twenty years ago, but hey,

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Speaker 3: I used it up and felt pretty good about that

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Speaker 3: as well. So if you've got a little building project

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Speaker 3: that is going on that you'd like to talk about,

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Speaker 3: or a big building project that you'd like to talk about,

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Speaker 3: or perhaps you'd like to talk about compliance and regulation,

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Speaker 3: we can do all of that on the show this morning.

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Speaker 3: If you have any particular painting questions, one of our

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Speaker 3: painting experts, which is Bryce McDermott, regular contributor to the show,

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Speaker 3: will be available from seven twenty this morning. So if

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Speaker 3: you've got any specific text text those questions through any

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Speaker 3: painting questions, I've got a a couple little lined up

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Speaker 3: think about the whether to go water borne enamel or

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Speaker 3: in an area that they just get. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: north facing, right, it's timber, and it's north facing. It's

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Speaker 3: going to move, it's going to crack. Which paint is

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Speaker 3: the most suitable? So old Dash in there first, unless

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Speaker 3: you beat me to it by sending a couple of

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Speaker 3: texts about painting questions for Bryce, our painting expert from

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Speaker 3: Razine at around seven twenty this morning. As always, we

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Speaker 3: have tracked down a red Cline pass who is on

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Speaker 3: the road this morning. He will be joining us at

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Speaker 3: eight point thirty this morning. If you've got a building

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Speaker 3: question though, and we always get busy a bit later

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Speaker 3: in the show, so now is a great time to call.

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Is that number? So eight

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Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty. If you'd like to text, the

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Speaker 3: number is nine two nine two ISBZB from your mobile phone.

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Speaker 3: And I've remembered my password for the email, so you

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Speaker 3: can send me an email if you wish. That's Pete

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Speaker 3: at newstalksb dot co dot z. So I trust you've

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Speaker 3: had a good week. If you're back to work, I

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Speaker 3: hope that's going okay. If you're sort of on that

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Speaker 3: don't mind if I knock off a bit early and

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Speaker 3: go to the beach. Good on you, and if you've

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Speaker 3: managed to stretch out the summer holidays for another week

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Speaker 3: or congratulations well planned. Oh eight one hundred eighty ten

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Speaker 3: eighty is that number to call? M ah apparently otago

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Speaker 3: this morning, but cloudy, cold and miserable has been since Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Um talking about installation. Come back to that one in

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Speaker 3: a minute. It's a good text. Actually, I want to

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Speaker 3: be ah. I want texts already coming in. I want

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Speaker 3: to build a large garden shed. It's going to need

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Speaker 3: about one point five cubic meters of concrete. Should I

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Speaker 3: do bags or get a truck in bags? To be fair,

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Speaker 3: bags are great as in premax bags of sand and cement,

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Speaker 3: but for one point five cubic meters you are going

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Speaker 3: It's interesting to do the numbers whether it would be

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Speaker 3: cheaper at one point five cube. I would go for

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Speaker 3: One is I think you'll probably find that it's better

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Speaker 3: Dollars wise, I would say possibly be even a little

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Speaker 3: And if you did want to do it yourself, then

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Speaker 3: I would actually go for builders mixed bags of cement

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Speaker 3: and he wasn't aware that the ready mixed plant was

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Speaker 3: On Friday, he rang ordered six cubic meters of builders

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Speaker 3: arrived on Saturday morning, it was like, Hi, this is

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Speaker 3: It is fifteen minutes after six. A very good morning,

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Speaker 3: and welcome along to the show. Oh eight hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Other great

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Speaker 3: text about Limb. Report's got a story about that in

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Speaker 3: just a moment before we'll talk to Chad first. Good

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Speaker 3: morning Chad, Yeah, morning, and to you, to you.

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Speaker 5: Excellent mete Just you've probably had this one hundred times

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Speaker 5: over your career, of a thousand times, boundary fences between

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Speaker 5: between two sections. I just want to know if someone

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Speaker 5: because I think you've got to get well, there's got

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Speaker 5: to be some comms between the two parties. I'm sure

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Speaker 5: of it, whether it's written or verbal. Just what's the

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Speaker 5: there's a new fence for between the two properties. The

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Speaker 5: has been put up for one point.

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Speaker 3: Nine, which is hate some few because you don't have

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Speaker 3: to do anything. Is it? Is it a halfway decent fence?

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Speaker 6: Does it look Okay, it's just it's just not not

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Speaker 6: what how we wanted it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, it's it's macrocarpa. And it's like and it

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Speaker 5: starts drying out like they've already done another section around

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Speaker 5: the back. When that timber starts drawing, obviously that the

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Speaker 3: Through it, gotcha, yep.

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Speaker 5: And then then we found out once they paid for

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Speaker 5: their fence, we can't do anything with it, like we

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Speaker 5: can't put a you know, like a decorative panel on

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Speaker 5: or anything because they paid for it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that. That's an interesting one. Okay.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, late last year, after a little while of trying,

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Speaker 3: which was awesome. He's going to come back because we

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Speaker 3: had a lot more to talk about. So, and what

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Speaker 3: we were specifically talking about is the Fencing Act. So

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Speaker 3: Fencing Act is quite clear if you are going to

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Speaker 3: seek a contribution from a neighbor. You can only get

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Speaker 3: that if you inform the neighbor beforehand, so you have

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Speaker 3: to send a letter, you have to quote the Fencing Act,

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Speaker 3: you have to provide some estimates of the cost, and

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Speaker 3: then from that you can request a contribution to half

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Speaker 3: the value of a standard fence. Arguably using macrocarpa, which

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Speaker 3: is probably cheaper than more expensive than good old highness radiator,

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Speaker 3: will mean that they've spent more on the fence. So

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Speaker 3: in terms of you know, if you get a knock

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Speaker 3: us a couple of grand then you are quite within

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Speaker 3: your right side would say to say, I'm sorry you

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Speaker 3: didn't inform me. I'm not going to contribute. Then the

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Speaker 3: other question is exactly where if they put the fence.

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Speaker 3: So it's quite possible that what they've done is put

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Speaker 3: it solely on their side of the boundary, in which

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Speaker 3: case it very much is their property. I would say

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Speaker 3: if they've split you know, how often if you know,

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Speaker 3: we know that the boundary line is a dead straight

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Speaker 3: or typically a dead straight line, and in some cases

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Speaker 3: you buy agreement with the neighbor, you can share that

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Speaker 3: and put half the post half the fence on each side.

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Speaker 7: You, and good morning to you too. Water hammer, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 7: it's lovely. I recently replaced a handbasin in our own

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Speaker 7: I've been up in the roof and my wife's downstairs

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Speaker 7: I tried an arrestor on the cold tap in the

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Speaker 3: Right, what's the what does the arrestor do or what

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Speaker 7: Well that you put that on the back of the

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Speaker 7: It's just a single knock. We neither the washing machine

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Speaker 3: Right, Okay, So there might be two things happening. One

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Speaker 7: Through itself located that it's in the back of the

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Speaker 3: The realistically the only option is cutting out a bit

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Speaker 7: Prapped and yep, the pipes up there in the ceiling.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think what it is is often, you know,

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Speaker 3: I've got some feeds coming off and that sort of thing,

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Speaker 3: and then things change and people cut into a pipe

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Speaker 7: Yeah see, I don't think anyone's into feed up there,

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Speaker 7: and my wife is going crazy turn that on, beer,

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Speaker 3: It's incredibly frustrating. The other option is to maybe put

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Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, good, So it's either air in there or

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's just with a ceramic disk inside

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Speaker 3: then maybe you just have to cut that open and

432
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Speaker 3: seal around there and you might find it's the pipe knocking.

433
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, good luck.

434
00:25:11,815 --> 00:25:14,255
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, good luck is about as good as

435
00:25:14,255 --> 00:25:16,855
Speaker 3: I can do today. All right, take care bother then

436
00:25:17,095 --> 00:25:19,575
Speaker 3: you and New Storks b quick text that's come through.

437
00:25:19,855 --> 00:25:22,015
Speaker 3: Pete has a comment that I read any comment from

438
00:25:22,095 --> 00:25:25,455
Speaker 3: you from David and the quote the comment is multi

439
00:25:25,535 --> 00:25:29,575
Speaker 3: unit residential still high, but that is Spec H one

440
00:25:29,695 --> 00:25:33,255
Speaker 3: environmental development levies pushing cost up. There is still value

441
00:25:33,295 --> 00:25:35,095
Speaker 3: to be found, but you need the right team cite

442
00:25:35,135 --> 00:25:38,335
Speaker 3: and design. Too many consultants on exorbitant rates, trying to

443
00:25:38,375 --> 00:25:42,215
Speaker 3: make design, two complex council planners on power trips asking

444
00:25:42,255 --> 00:25:48,135
Speaker 3: for subjective RFI s. Yeah, probably wouldn't completely disagree with

445
00:25:48,175 --> 00:25:52,655
Speaker 3: you on that. I think that. I mean, look, everybody

446
00:25:52,695 --> 00:25:57,615
Speaker 3: deserves a living right without a doubt. But you know,

447
00:25:58,575 --> 00:26:03,535
Speaker 3: in terms of developments, you know, there was an article

448
00:26:03,735 --> 00:26:08,055
Speaker 3: I think probably last quarter of last year of a

449
00:26:08,095 --> 00:26:11,655
Speaker 3: gentleman out in the way Tackles in Auckland who wanted

450
00:26:11,695 --> 00:26:15,335
Speaker 3: to i think, add another unit to a section that

451
00:26:15,375 --> 00:26:18,415
Speaker 3: he already owned, a property that he already owned, and

452
00:26:18,455 --> 00:26:20,375
Speaker 3: One of the things he was expected to do was

453
00:26:20,455 --> 00:26:23,455
Speaker 3: get an ecologist to come in and do a survey

454
00:26:23,535 --> 00:26:29,255
Speaker 3: of the skink population and then to provide monitoring I

455
00:26:29,295 --> 00:26:33,295
Speaker 3: think of said skinks, and also I think to provide

456
00:26:33,335 --> 00:26:35,495
Speaker 3: I know, for another case, we're a developer was asked

457
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Speaker 3: to provide a methodology of what to do when they

458
00:26:38,095 --> 00:26:41,855
Speaker 3: encounter a skink in the event that, you know, they

459
00:26:41,935 --> 00:26:44,135
Speaker 3: see one when the diggers working or something like that.

460
00:26:44,575 --> 00:26:47,375
Speaker 3: I'm all for protecting the environment, I really really am,

461
00:26:48,135 --> 00:26:51,615
Speaker 3: but I think there has been some large es with

462
00:26:51,735 --> 00:26:55,775
Speaker 3: this sort of thing that should come to an end. So, yeah,

463
00:26:55,855 --> 00:27:00,815
Speaker 3: I get it, h one, We've been through this. Yeah,

464
00:27:00,895 --> 00:27:03,815
Speaker 3: it may add cost, and if it does, I think

465
00:27:03,855 --> 00:27:05,975
Speaker 3: that's a cost that we should bear. To be blunt

466
00:27:07,015 --> 00:27:10,575
Speaker 3: and in some cases, the hysteria around you know, the

467
00:27:10,655 --> 00:27:13,455
Speaker 3: quotes that were out there saying, oh, it's added fifty

468
00:27:13,535 --> 00:27:15,695
Speaker 3: thousand dollars to the cost of a New Zealand house

469
00:27:16,335 --> 00:27:20,295
Speaker 3: has been proven to be untrue in some cases. So

470
00:27:20,535 --> 00:27:24,655
Speaker 3: Malcolm Fleming, who's the chief executive of New Zealand Certified Builders,

471
00:27:24,975 --> 00:27:27,935
Speaker 3: he was a guest last year on the show when

472
00:27:28,015 --> 00:27:30,255
Speaker 3: this discussion was taking place. They went out and they

473
00:27:30,295 --> 00:27:33,535
Speaker 3: grabbed a fairly standard ninety square meter building and I

474
00:27:33,535 --> 00:27:36,055
Speaker 3: think one hundred and forty square meter building. They did

475
00:27:36,095 --> 00:27:39,255
Speaker 3: a quantity surveying of it, going okay, if we apply

476
00:27:39,375 --> 00:27:41,415
Speaker 3: the new H one standards, but we don't use the

477
00:27:41,415 --> 00:27:44,735
Speaker 3: schedule method. We do the calculation method, what's our additional cost?

478
00:27:45,215 --> 00:27:47,575
Speaker 3: And one case they were saving money, in another case

479
00:27:47,655 --> 00:27:53,015
Speaker 3: they were basically spending you know, might be two thousand

480
00:27:53,055 --> 00:27:56,135
Speaker 3: dollars added to the cost of the building to comply

481
00:27:56,215 --> 00:27:58,815
Speaker 3: with the H one. So I don't go round blaming

482
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Speaker 3: H one. Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is

483
00:28:01,615 --> 00:28:06,295
Speaker 3: the number to call and tippery good morning to you.

484
00:28:06,455 --> 00:28:11,415
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I'm just bringing up uh yeah. I had

485
00:28:11,415 --> 00:28:12,895
Speaker 9: a bit of a party used today.

486
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Speaker 10: Uh.

487
00:28:15,295 --> 00:28:19,575
Speaker 9: I worked with the guys, got really drunk. He ended

488
00:28:19,655 --> 00:28:22,055
Speaker 9: up hating his hit. Put it in the hole through

489
00:28:22,095 --> 00:28:27,775
Speaker 9: the war because he'd been through the war I made.

490
00:28:27,815 --> 00:28:30,495
Speaker 9: He was okay the next morning, but the war.

491
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Speaker 3: Wasn't second based.

492
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I would beat it with just basic tools. The

493
00:28:38,335 --> 00:28:40,935
Speaker 9: whole what I did was I got a piece of paper,

494
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Speaker 9: the normal paper, apaper, yeah, newspaper I made. I squeared

495
00:28:49,135 --> 00:28:52,735
Speaker 9: it off, Yeah, I taped it. Take that and then

496
00:28:53,055 --> 00:28:56,295
Speaker 9: what happened was I would say lucky to have paint

497
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Speaker 9: white paint and uh. But but what I did was

498
00:29:00,135 --> 00:29:02,855
Speaker 9: I putsy decides. You know, I would say lucky to

499
00:29:02,935 --> 00:29:10,495
Speaker 9: have putsy puts the sides of the tape and did

500
00:29:10,575 --> 00:29:14,255
Speaker 9: I What I did was as the potsy dried, I

501
00:29:14,295 --> 00:29:16,895
Speaker 9: set paper. It lived with the puddy with the wall,

502
00:29:18,135 --> 00:29:21,695
Speaker 9: and did I win over with white paint? And look

503
00:29:22,655 --> 00:29:26,575
Speaker 9: it was back to brand news, you know.

504
00:29:28,895 --> 00:29:32,455
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Look, with the grocer respect, I suspect that

505
00:29:33,095 --> 00:29:37,295
Speaker 3: any property management or anyone with some building knowledge will

506
00:29:37,335 --> 00:29:40,575
Speaker 3: will see that repair from about a million miles away.

507
00:29:41,175 --> 00:29:44,175
Speaker 3: And I respect what you're saying. I'm sure you think

508
00:29:44,215 --> 00:29:48,135
Speaker 3: you work is great. Again, with the grocer respect, I'm

509
00:29:48,175 --> 00:29:50,335
Speaker 3: pretty sure that if I walked in, I would that

510
00:29:50,375 --> 00:29:52,895
Speaker 3: would be the first thing that I would see. And

511
00:29:53,055 --> 00:29:56,295
Speaker 3: it's not going to last long. And good luck getting

512
00:29:56,335 --> 00:29:59,455
Speaker 3: that past the well. Hopefully you're the owner of the property.

513
00:30:00,175 --> 00:30:02,375
Speaker 3: Only you've got to worry about the quality of the repair.

514
00:30:02,655 --> 00:30:05,255
Speaker 3: Good luck. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

515
00:30:05,295 --> 00:30:07,335
Speaker 3: to call that you go. That'll to the greatest hits

516
00:30:07,375 --> 00:30:10,695
Speaker 3: of DIY. It is coming up twenty minutes away from seven.

517
00:30:10,735 --> 00:30:12,615
Speaker 3: We've got a spare line. Love to hear from you.

518
00:30:12,655 --> 00:30:15,375
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

519
00:30:15,415 --> 00:30:17,735
Speaker 3: call helping.

520
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Speaker 1: You get those DIY projects done right. The resident builder

521
00:30:21,535 --> 00:30:25,055
Speaker 1: with Peter wolfcap and light four solar a less of power.

522
00:30:25,055 --> 00:30:26,895
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty five news.

523
00:30:26,655 --> 00:30:28,895
Speaker 3: Talks it B You and You Stalk Seid b quick

524
00:30:28,935 --> 00:30:31,655
Speaker 3: text as well. Pete had a This is referring back

525
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Speaker 3: to Paul's issue with water hammer. Hey, Pete had this

526
00:30:36,655 --> 00:30:39,095
Speaker 3: problem on a two story house. Was a simple worn

527
00:30:39,255 --> 00:30:43,055
Speaker 3: tap washer that was allowing air to be drawn back

528
00:30:43,095 --> 00:30:46,495
Speaker 3: into the pipe on the second floor, creating the air ram.

529
00:30:46,615 --> 00:30:49,775
Speaker 3: So it's if the problem what you're saying, I think

530
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Speaker 3: is that if the problems downstairs, it might be an

531
00:30:51,975 --> 00:30:56,455
Speaker 3: upstairs tap that is contributing to the issue. Someone else

532
00:30:57,215 --> 00:31:00,815
Speaker 3: helpfully has suggested, we had that knocking in my father's house,

533
00:31:00,855 --> 00:31:04,935
Speaker 3: turned the mains off, sorted it completely. Yes, very good,

534
00:31:05,055 --> 00:31:08,975
Speaker 3: very droll A water hammer arresta as close as you

535
00:31:09,015 --> 00:31:11,455
Speaker 3: can to the noise. I think that is what Paul

536
00:31:11,495 --> 00:31:14,975
Speaker 3: has already done by adding one close to the tap

537
00:31:15,015 --> 00:31:17,775
Speaker 3: that he's put in. Good morning, Can you build a

538
00:31:17,775 --> 00:31:22,095
Speaker 3: shed that is both L one and L two? I'd

539
00:31:22,095 --> 00:31:24,735
Speaker 3: like to build a three door American style barn with

540
00:31:24,775 --> 00:31:27,575
Speaker 3: living quarters on the side. I'm not sure what the

541
00:31:27,615 --> 00:31:31,895
Speaker 3: reference to L one, Ally one or ALLY two is.

542
00:31:31,935 --> 00:31:34,055
Speaker 3: If you can see me a bit more information, Chris,

543
00:31:34,095 --> 00:31:36,615
Speaker 3: that would be helpful. That's great. Tell him to change

544
00:31:36,655 --> 00:31:39,055
Speaker 3: the mixer to a high quality unit that will always

545
00:31:39,095 --> 00:31:42,535
Speaker 3: fix the water hammer. Maybe it is a high quality unit,

546
00:31:43,495 --> 00:31:46,375
Speaker 3: Mariana Pete. Can a neighbor cover my toby, which he

547
00:31:46,495 --> 00:31:49,215
Speaker 3: says is on his land? No, I wouldn't have thought

548
00:31:49,255 --> 00:31:56,095
Speaker 3: so in a sent Well, see, the toby is actually

549
00:31:56,135 --> 00:32:00,335
Speaker 3: owned by either the council or in Auckland's case, water Care,

550
00:32:01,695 --> 00:32:04,015
Speaker 3: So no, I don't think that you can go ahead

551
00:32:04,055 --> 00:32:07,735
Speaker 3: and cover that. And if it was on the land,

552
00:32:07,855 --> 00:32:11,855
Speaker 3: it's still an asset that's not owned by the property owner.

553
00:32:12,255 --> 00:32:14,735
Speaker 3: So if you've ever had a leak, for example, if

554
00:32:14,775 --> 00:32:18,575
Speaker 3: it's on your side of the toby, it's your responsibility.

555
00:32:18,735 --> 00:32:21,415
Speaker 3: If it's on at the toby or on the pipe

556
00:32:21,455 --> 00:32:24,135
Speaker 3: that comes in from the mains to the toby, we're

557
00:32:24,135 --> 00:32:26,295
Speaker 3: talking about the water meter right out on the roadway,

558
00:32:27,535 --> 00:32:32,095
Speaker 3: then that becomes the issue for the council basically to

559
00:32:32,175 --> 00:32:34,295
Speaker 3: deal with. And someone thinks that I'm on the right

560
00:32:34,335 --> 00:32:38,375
Speaker 3: track with the skinks. Can I please be absolutely clear

561
00:32:38,415 --> 00:32:43,055
Speaker 3: about this. I am all for environmental protection right if

562
00:32:43,095 --> 00:32:47,255
Speaker 3: there are threatened species, if there is a particular sensitivity

563
00:32:47,775 --> 00:32:51,135
Speaker 3: around an area, then I think we need to do

564
00:32:51,215 --> 00:32:54,815
Speaker 3: everything we can to protect that. I just get the

565
00:32:54,815 --> 00:32:57,815
Speaker 3: feeling that that has extended a little bit beyond what

566
00:32:58,015 --> 00:33:00,575
Speaker 3: is reasonable. Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty the

567
00:33:00,655 --> 00:33:02,575
Speaker 3: number to call ray good morning to you.

568
00:33:03,215 --> 00:33:08,455
Speaker 11: Good morning a awesome show. Think of it regarding building

569
00:33:08,575 --> 00:33:12,375
Speaker 11: consent outstanding, So I'll go to the end of it.

570
00:33:12,535 --> 00:33:16,975
Speaker 11: This could be quite useful for listeners. I've just finished

571
00:33:16,975 --> 00:33:23,015
Speaker 11: a small planes process at the local court. We went

572
00:33:23,095 --> 00:33:27,855
Speaker 11: to sell our property building consent with outstanding. Won't go

573
00:33:27,935 --> 00:33:30,055
Speaker 11: to the detail, but our lawyer didn't pick it up.

574
00:33:30,695 --> 00:33:32,895
Speaker 8: The agents that were selling properly picked it up.

575
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Speaker 11: Had to spend a lot of money on getting that

576
00:33:36,735 --> 00:33:39,295
Speaker 11: building consent. Like you say, it takes a lot of step.

577
00:33:39,415 --> 00:33:44,135
Speaker 11: It was tens of thousands of dollars. Won't go into

578
00:33:44,135 --> 00:33:48,095
Speaker 11: the nitty gritty of it, but the file was good

579
00:33:48,175 --> 00:33:54,055
Speaker 11: enough to show that the people previously to us had

580
00:33:55,215 --> 00:34:00,335
Speaker 11: corresponds with council. Council said, hey, building consent has not

581
00:34:00,575 --> 00:34:04,055
Speaker 11: been completed. They did go a little ways to getting

582
00:34:04,335 --> 00:34:07,655
Speaker 11: that building conceived, that fleasy, but they hadn't completed it,

583
00:34:07,735 --> 00:34:11,175
Speaker 11: got letters on file showing they've been contacted, they didn't

584
00:34:11,175 --> 00:34:15,255
Speaker 11: doing about it, and I won and I was warded

585
00:34:16,735 --> 00:34:21,055
Speaker 11: basically the cost of the work I had to do

586
00:34:21,135 --> 00:34:22,895
Speaker 11: to get it up to standard. And it was a

587
00:34:23,015 --> 00:34:28,975
Speaker 11: let prospective building consent and got tens of thousands of

588
00:34:29,015 --> 00:34:29,575
Speaker 11: dollars out of.

589
00:34:29,535 --> 00:34:36,055
Speaker 3: It, which is fascinating, but that's not I just want

590
00:34:36,055 --> 00:34:38,815
Speaker 3: to be really clear on this. The fact that you

591
00:34:38,855 --> 00:34:44,175
Speaker 3: were able to sue someone effectively for damages and is

592
00:34:44,775 --> 00:34:46,655
Speaker 3: that it was a mistake on the part of in

593
00:34:46,655 --> 00:34:49,615
Speaker 3: this case, your lawyer at the conveyancing that they didn't

594
00:34:49,615 --> 00:34:51,935
Speaker 3: pick it up and it's fair and reasonable to expect

595
00:34:51,975 --> 00:34:55,095
Speaker 3: that they would have found what's quite straightforward information, right.

596
00:34:55,135 --> 00:34:58,015
Speaker 3: And so this discussion starts with should I get a

597
00:34:58,055 --> 00:35:00,015
Speaker 3: LIMB report. I was reading through a LIMB report a

598
00:35:00,055 --> 00:35:02,455
Speaker 3: little while ago, and typically it gives you a bit

599
00:35:02,495 --> 00:35:06,055
Speaker 3: of a property information and then it goes building consents. Right,

600
00:35:06,295 --> 00:35:08,335
Speaker 3: we'll talk about building permits if it's got one from

601
00:35:08,455 --> 00:35:11,335
Speaker 3: nineteen fifty six for an outhouse or nineteen thirty six

602
00:35:11,375 --> 00:35:14,135
Speaker 3: for a you know, an addition to a property whatever,

603
00:35:14,375 --> 00:35:16,735
Speaker 3: or a garage that was built in the nineteen sixties.

604
00:35:16,775 --> 00:35:19,135
Speaker 3: All of those sorts of things will have a building

605
00:35:19,175 --> 00:35:22,975
Speaker 3: permit and then it will say no CCC and then

606
00:35:23,015 --> 00:35:25,975
Speaker 3: it says in the notes not required because it's before

607
00:35:26,015 --> 00:35:30,215
Speaker 3: such and such a time. Once we moved to building consents,

608
00:35:30,495 --> 00:35:35,295
Speaker 3: then building consents required. The final part of building consent

609
00:35:35,415 --> 00:35:39,095
Speaker 3: is to get a CCC code compliance certificate. So I

610
00:35:39,175 --> 00:35:42,535
Speaker 3: think your claim wouldn't have been against counsel or against

611
00:35:42,535 --> 00:35:46,135
Speaker 3: the previous only was your claim against your lawyer for

612
00:35:46,175 --> 00:35:47,175
Speaker 3: not packing that up.

613
00:35:48,215 --> 00:35:53,935
Speaker 11: No, and there was no way to get that against lawyer.

614
00:35:54,975 --> 00:36:00,975
Speaker 11: So basically under your Salem purchase agreement, as a vendor warranty,

615
00:36:01,215 --> 00:36:05,815
Speaker 11: this is the great part, right, and that inside there

616
00:36:05,815 --> 00:36:10,695
Speaker 11: that talk about the the owner warrants that they have

617
00:36:10,975 --> 00:36:14,135
Speaker 11: no outstanding building events. And that's where we got it.

618
00:36:14,175 --> 00:36:15,975
Speaker 11: So it was a breach of contract on the sale

619
00:36:16,095 --> 00:36:24,335
Speaker 11: features agreement. Gotcha, And it's really really interesting, it's worth honestly, we.

620
00:36:26,415 --> 00:36:30,615
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, Ray, that would that would only apply if

621
00:36:32,495 --> 00:36:36,095
Speaker 3: the question was asked and the nature of the contract

622
00:36:36,215 --> 00:36:41,775
Speaker 3: includes that clause in it, because yeah, okay.

623
00:36:42,415 --> 00:36:47,015
Speaker 11: It is a really very important thing. If that is

624
00:36:47,055 --> 00:36:51,455
Speaker 11: crossed out at any stage during a purchase agreement, then

625
00:36:52,055 --> 00:36:57,895
Speaker 11: that purchaser needs to be very weird. There's something potentially

626
00:36:57,975 --> 00:37:02,295
Speaker 11: dodgy and behind it. So it wasn't crossed out right people,

627
00:37:02,655 --> 00:37:06,495
Speaker 11: I couldn't remember. We're talking ten to twenty years go.

628
00:37:07,655 --> 00:37:11,975
Speaker 11: But because of the pay Council head on five, very

629
00:37:11,975 --> 00:37:16,175
Speaker 11: clear they they basically breached the contract under that vendor warranty.

630
00:37:16,695 --> 00:37:18,735
Speaker 3: I've got one more question for your Ray. Can you

631
00:37:18,815 --> 00:37:20,455
Speaker 3: just hold on? We'll get a break out of the

632
00:37:20,455 --> 00:37:22,375
Speaker 3: way and a come back. It's a very important question

633
00:37:22,455 --> 00:37:23,495
Speaker 3: back in a moment.

634
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Speaker 1: Measure twice, cut once, but maybe call Pead first, Peta

635
00:37:28,015 --> 00:37:32,055
Speaker 1: Wolfcamp the resident builder with light four solar save power

636
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five and Earn air boinds dollars news talks.

637
00:37:35,535 --> 00:37:39,655
Speaker 3: It'd be we've got Ray back with us and Ray.

638
00:37:39,695 --> 00:37:42,815
Speaker 3: I just wanted to ask, in terms of this particular

639
00:37:42,855 --> 00:37:45,815
Speaker 3: sale and purchase, was this completed let's say in the

640
00:37:45,855 --> 00:37:51,455
Speaker 3: last four to five years? Yeah, okay, roughly how long ago?

641
00:37:51,495 --> 00:37:57,935
Speaker 3: Because the landscape is changing, and you know, if you

642
00:37:57,935 --> 00:38:00,295
Speaker 3: haven't been involved in the sale and purchase for a while,

643
00:38:01,575 --> 00:38:04,575
Speaker 3: you'll possibly think that it's like it always was, but

644
00:38:04,655 --> 00:38:08,375
Speaker 3: it's changed quite a lot, and it's it's changed quite

645
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Speaker 3: a lot, I think in the last few years. And

646
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Speaker 3: I think that's where this has allowed you some redress. Right,

647
00:38:13,895 --> 00:38:17,855
Speaker 3: So if a vendor states that there's nothing outstanding with

648
00:38:17,895 --> 00:38:20,495
Speaker 3: the property and all the rest of it, and in

649
00:38:20,535 --> 00:38:22,295
Speaker 3: this case it sounds like they might have said that

650
00:38:22,335 --> 00:38:25,215
Speaker 3: because they just weren't fully aware, but it's then in

651
00:38:25,255 --> 00:38:29,935
Speaker 3: the contract. You're right, you've got redressed through the contract

652
00:38:29,935 --> 00:38:32,015
Speaker 3: to go, well, you should have known this or you

653
00:38:32,055 --> 00:38:34,615
Speaker 3: did know and you decided not to tell us, and

654
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Speaker 3: therefore the cost is yours. Good on you.

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Speaker 11: Yeah one. And what had happened is that with a

656
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Speaker 11: garage we had to do a reclaid. There was moisture

657
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Speaker 11: and that pound. It's all started with council. We've got

658
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Speaker 11: a new purchaser, got a report, a builder's report that's

659
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Speaker 11: down moisture. Council came in and then we've kind of process.

660
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Speaker 11: So it was a reclad on a garage that was

661
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Speaker 11: ends of thousands of dollars.

662
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Speaker 3: Would have been yeah, you.

663
00:39:06,935 --> 00:39:09,495
Speaker 8: Know it was wrong. Wasn't one first the above ground.

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Speaker 11: So I just want to encourage people that if they

665
00:39:14,135 --> 00:39:17,375
Speaker 11: do come across and at end, Hey, look the lawyer

666
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Speaker 11: and we're happy with them that now they give us

667
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Speaker 11: some advice and I did all the process, I would

668
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Speaker 11: suggest that m no, I won't want.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, I get why you might be cautious as well. Hey,

670
00:39:37,255 --> 00:39:39,215
Speaker 3: thank you very very much for calling and thanks for

671
00:39:39,215 --> 00:39:43,015
Speaker 3: sticking around. I think that's that's really really good information,

672
00:39:43,135 --> 00:39:49,375
Speaker 3: and that is yeah, I might you've got a couple

673
00:39:49,455 --> 00:39:52,055
Speaker 3: of real estate agents who could speak to us quite

674
00:39:52,095 --> 00:39:55,575
Speaker 3: well and quite independently. You've given me an idea for

675
00:39:55,615 --> 00:39:58,655
Speaker 3: the show. For a couple of weeks time, we'll will

676
00:39:58,695 --> 00:40:00,735
Speaker 3: seek to get someone on and just go through this

677
00:40:00,895 --> 00:40:05,415
Speaker 3: with people because I think, yeah, there's there's a lot

678
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Speaker 3: in what you're saying. I really appreciate it, right, thank.

679
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Speaker 11: You, that's okay. I just want to say one last thing.

680
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Speaker 11: The lawyers basically said that that wasn't in this skyde

681
00:40:17,135 --> 00:40:19,095
Speaker 11: and that was that, So do you.

682
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Speaker 3: Go right, Sorry, it wasn't in there this.

683
00:40:22,295 --> 00:40:23,855
Speaker 4: Character seed right.

684
00:40:26,095 --> 00:40:26,295
Speaker 2: Or not?

685
00:40:26,455 --> 00:40:27,775
Speaker 11: That wasn't part of their scope.

686
00:40:27,815 --> 00:40:28,495
Speaker 4: That was there.

687
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Speaker 11: They're out and proces.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's interesting too. I really appreciate it, Ray, and

689
00:40:34,135 --> 00:40:37,975
Speaker 3: I'm pleased to hear you've got a successful result, Well done, awesome,

690
00:40:38,175 --> 00:40:40,575
Speaker 3: take care, thank you. We're coming up to new Sport

691
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Speaker 3: and weather top of the hour at seven o'clock remember

692
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Speaker 3: at seven twenty. In fact, we haven't it any texts

693
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Speaker 3: yet if you've got any specific painting questions, and lots

694
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Speaker 3: of us are doing painting now that the weather is

695
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Speaker 3: settled and it's this beautiful long day, so text me

696
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Speaker 3: through your painting questions.

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Speaker 3: Your news talksb Pete off Camp Resident build out with

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Speaker 3: you right through till nine o'clock this morning. We are

703
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Speaker 3: going to have some painting questions with painting session at

704
00:41:18,855 --> 00:41:22,175
Speaker 3: around seven twenty five this morning, so Bryce, our painting

705
00:41:22,215 --> 00:41:26,215
Speaker 3: expert from Razine, will be available to do answer any

706
00:41:26,295 --> 00:41:29,175
Speaker 3: text questions that come through, and a couple of already

707
00:41:29,175 --> 00:41:32,135
Speaker 3: come through, which is awesome. If you've got a question,

708
00:41:32,295 --> 00:41:35,135
Speaker 3: feel free to text it through. Otherwise we're talking all

709
00:41:35,215 --> 00:41:38,055
Speaker 3: things building construction and it's kind of you know, home

710
00:41:38,095 --> 00:41:41,055
Speaker 3: ownership and legislation and regulations and that sort of thing

711
00:41:41,735 --> 00:41:43,975
Speaker 3: as well, right through at about eight thirty this morning.

712
00:41:44,015 --> 00:41:46,535
Speaker 3: Then we're into the garden with a klin past who's

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Speaker 3: on the road. In fact, I think he's in Punakaiki

714
00:41:50,175 --> 00:41:52,575
Speaker 3: at the moment, but we've tracked him down and he

715
00:41:52,695 --> 00:41:55,215
Speaker 3: will be available to answer all of your gardening and

716
00:41:56,015 --> 00:42:00,135
Speaker 3: bug related or entomological questions at around eight thirty this morning,

717
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Speaker 3: and then we're done for another day here at News

718
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Speaker 3: TALKSB So jump in if you've got a question of

719
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Speaker 3: building nature with it's water hammer or it's fencing, or

720
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Speaker 3: our conversation with Ray just prior to the news there

721
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Speaker 3: around I mentioned the fact that one of the things

722
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Speaker 3: that's sort of on my desk at the moment is

723
00:42:17,415 --> 00:42:22,615
Speaker 3: helping a client I guess, to resolve an issue where

724
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Speaker 3: a building consent was issued, work was undertaken, either a

725
00:42:27,815 --> 00:42:32,375
Speaker 3: final inspection wasn't done, or if it was done, the

726
00:42:32,375 --> 00:42:35,415
Speaker 3: then owner didn't go through and wrap up all the

727
00:42:35,455 --> 00:42:41,495
Speaker 3: paperwork by getting the CCC Code compliance certificate sorted out

728
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Speaker 3: at the end of it, which then some years later

729
00:42:45,575 --> 00:42:48,975
Speaker 3: and we're talking about a considerable number of years it

730
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Speaker 3: sits on the council file as a building consent that

731
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Speaker 3: doesn't have a CCC, getting one or getting that closed

732
00:42:56,935 --> 00:43:02,615
Speaker 3: off is typically not a straightforward process, and that's what

733
00:43:02,735 --> 00:43:04,935
Speaker 3: Ray was talking about. But he had managed to get

734
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Speaker 3: redress because of the nature of the sale and purchase agreement,

735
00:43:09,695 --> 00:43:14,095
Speaker 3: and that's all around a duty to declare. I think

736
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Speaker 3: we might reach out to actually a previous contributor to

737
00:43:18,095 --> 00:43:20,535
Speaker 3: the show who is a real estate agent who knows

738
00:43:20,575 --> 00:43:23,055
Speaker 3: a lot about the legal side of a sale and

739
00:43:23,055 --> 00:43:25,255
Speaker 3: purchase and get him on the show. So I'll give

740
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Speaker 3: him a call during the week and we'll talk about

741
00:43:27,295 --> 00:43:29,455
Speaker 3: that sometime in the next couple of weeks. In the

742
00:43:29,495 --> 00:43:34,215
Speaker 3: same way that I mentioned, We've got a property expert,

743
00:43:34,935 --> 00:43:37,975
Speaker 3: property law expert who joined us for the first time

744
00:43:38,055 --> 00:43:40,455
Speaker 3: last year, looking forward to having him back on the show.

745
00:43:40,615 --> 00:43:44,215
Speaker 3: To be fair, if there is a particular expert area

746
00:43:44,295 --> 00:43:47,575
Speaker 3: that you would like me to sort of investigate or

747
00:43:47,615 --> 00:43:50,415
Speaker 3: get someone in to speak to, feel free to either

748
00:43:50,495 --> 00:43:53,015
Speaker 3: text or email and I'll add that to the list.

749
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Speaker 3: We'll get Hamish back. Hamish Firth from Mount Hobson Group,

750
00:43:56,055 --> 00:43:58,775
Speaker 3: he's a town planner. We'll get him back on the

751
00:43:58,775 --> 00:44:04,495
Speaker 3: show without a doubt. We'll get Storm who's our ventilation expert.

752
00:44:04,535 --> 00:44:07,215
Speaker 3: This is a whole new field for me. Storm will

753
00:44:07,215 --> 00:44:10,295
Speaker 3: be back on the show this year, and undoubtedly we'll

754
00:44:10,295 --> 00:44:14,295
Speaker 3: probably get Mike Thornton, lawyer around construction issues, we'll get

755
00:44:14,375 --> 00:44:17,215
Speaker 3: him back on the show, so it'll it'll build up,

756
00:44:17,255 --> 00:44:22,335
Speaker 3: it'll be great. Also, possibly one of the team from

757
00:44:22,375 --> 00:44:25,935
Speaker 3: Brands is going to join us on the show this year.

758
00:44:26,615 --> 00:44:29,855
Speaker 3: I'm due for a visit down to Wellington to go

759
00:44:29,935 --> 00:44:33,855
Speaker 3: through the research laboratory at Brands, so I couldn't quite

760
00:44:33,895 --> 00:44:35,415
Speaker 3: make it at the end of last year. It's on

761
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Speaker 3: my list of things to do at the beginning of

762
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Speaker 3: this year. So I'll let you know how I get

763
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Speaker 3: on once we get down there. So plenty on Oh

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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call,

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Speaker 3: and Ellen a very good morning to you.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, good morning, great, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Good, very well in yourself.

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Speaker 6: Yeah good good.

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Speaker 3: What's up.

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Speaker 10: I've been occupied scrape my house down and painting it.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 10: And the procedure a window is wind the show is yes,

773
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Speaker 10: just a little bit underneath the window window itself.

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Speaker 9: Yep.

775
00:45:15,175 --> 00:45:21,135
Speaker 10: It's gone right through in a couple of places. Yeah,

776
00:45:21,935 --> 00:45:29,295
Speaker 10: step three inches thick, yes, and yeah it's sister sap

777
00:45:29,335 --> 00:45:36,055
Speaker 10: and take rotted off. What is involved in getting that

778
00:45:36,095 --> 00:45:39,855
Speaker 10: window show out? Do I have to get the window out?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean you can sort of do it in situe,

781
00:45:46,375 --> 00:45:51,095
Speaker 3: But typically the window does it have any fixed panes,

782
00:45:51,375 --> 00:45:53,095
Speaker 3: fixed sashes attached to them?

783
00:45:54,335 --> 00:45:54,455
Speaker 9: All?

784
00:45:54,535 --> 00:45:54,695
Speaker 10: Right?

785
00:45:54,935 --> 00:45:59,055
Speaker 3: Like the glass above the sill, is that an opening sashes?

786
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Speaker 6: Yes?

787
00:46:00,535 --> 00:46:00,855
Speaker 7: It is?

788
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Speaker 3: Okay, all of it Okay, yep.

789
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Speaker 10: There's one big run in the middle and two on

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Speaker 10: the sides and two lead lights up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah, Typically with these sorts of things,

792
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Speaker 3: Typically with these sorts of things, Ellen, you know, there's

793
00:46:17,855 --> 00:46:20,655
Speaker 3: a little bit of good timber left, even if there's

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Speaker 3: some decay in it. So from front to back, from

795
00:46:24,215 --> 00:46:27,175
Speaker 3: inside to outside, are you saying that the rot has

796
00:46:27,215 --> 00:46:30,055
Speaker 3: gone all the way through there's no good timber left.

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Speaker 10: There's quite a lot of good timber, yep. But there's

798
00:46:36,375 --> 00:46:40,735
Speaker 10: a little bit at the back right in underneath the window.

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Speaker 10: Some of it doesn't go all the way through, right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The reason I ask is that when I've done those

802
00:46:52,375 --> 00:46:55,775
Speaker 3: sorts of repairs, I like, taking the sill out is

803
00:46:55,855 --> 00:46:57,815
Speaker 3: quite a lot of work. Then you have to get

804
00:46:57,855 --> 00:47:01,215
Speaker 3: a new sill made. That's exactly the same profile, and

805
00:47:01,255 --> 00:47:03,615
Speaker 3: that can be quite tricky, and then you have to

806
00:47:03,655 --> 00:47:05,495
Speaker 3: get it in and then you have to attach it.

807
00:47:05,575 --> 00:47:08,495
Speaker 3: And often the way in which they're attached is in

808
00:47:08,615 --> 00:47:12,215
Speaker 3: areas that are inaccessible. So most of the time, for

809
00:47:12,255 --> 00:47:15,255
Speaker 3: an older window like that, the frame on the side

810
00:47:15,815 --> 00:47:19,895
Speaker 3: extends down past the sill and is nailed through the side. Well,

811
00:47:19,975 --> 00:47:23,575
Speaker 3: you can't get into that space again without taking the

812
00:47:23,815 --> 00:47:28,695
Speaker 3: entire window out and working on it. So the typical

813
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Speaker 3: approach is to go, I'm going to take out any

814
00:47:31,895 --> 00:47:35,975
Speaker 3: rotten pieces of timber until I go back to something

815
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Speaker 3: that's reasonably sound. Then I can shape up a couple

816
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Speaker 3: of replacement pieces out of tantalized timber, and I'm going

817
00:47:43,735 --> 00:47:46,695
Speaker 3: to glue and screw those in, and then I can

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00:47:46,815 --> 00:47:49,175
Speaker 3: dress that off, you know, feather it off like with

819
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Speaker 3: repair care or something like that, and then paint over

820
00:47:52,255 --> 00:47:55,495
Speaker 3: the whole thing rather than try and take the entire

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Speaker 3: sill out.

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Speaker 10: That's exactly what I've done. Oh, I got another bit

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Speaker 10: of timber and put it in, angered it in underneath there,

824
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Speaker 10: and I put it in and two pieces.

825
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Speaker 3: Actually, that's okay, that's what it takes.

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Speaker 10: The pizzas went right through. I put that piece piece

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Speaker 10: of treated pine in there, and I said it all right,

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00:48:28,335 --> 00:48:31,055
Speaker 10: and I shoved the other piece in underneath, and I

829
00:48:31,415 --> 00:48:38,295
Speaker 10: pulled it out again and glued it out. Uh, it's

830
00:48:38,335 --> 00:48:45,135
Speaker 10: a little bit down, a little bit so you can't

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Speaker 10: actually see the timber.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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00:48:46,975 --> 00:48:50,815
Speaker 10: So I filled the rest over with a bit of filler.

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Speaker 3: Again, you've got to make sure that you're using the

835
00:48:54,255 --> 00:48:56,895
Speaker 3: right type of filler, Like some of them don't bond

836
00:48:56,935 --> 00:48:59,415
Speaker 3: particularly well and they tend to, you know, kind of

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00:48:59,455 --> 00:49:03,655
Speaker 3: peel out, Whereas you can now get fillers that are

838
00:49:03,655 --> 00:49:06,775
Speaker 3: a combination of an adhesive and a filler. And again

839
00:49:06,855 --> 00:49:10,055
Speaker 3: that's that's repair Care, which is a two part product

840
00:49:10,455 --> 00:49:13,015
Speaker 3: that you can you can use to bond in there,

841
00:49:13,055 --> 00:49:15,215
Speaker 3: and you can shape it as it's drying, and then

842
00:49:15,255 --> 00:49:19,415
Speaker 3: once it is thoroughly dry, you can send it and

843
00:49:19,455 --> 00:49:23,375
Speaker 3: then it takes paint quite well as also. But look,

844
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Speaker 3: I think in general it sounds like you're reasonably on

845
00:49:27,175 --> 00:49:27,975
Speaker 3: on the right track.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's that's that's good for them pulling your way

847
00:49:33,815 --> 00:49:35,775
Speaker 10: out and replacing the window.

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Speaker 3: And Yeah, the other the other thing i'd add, Ellen

849
00:49:40,495 --> 00:49:44,295
Speaker 3: is if in these situations where you're treating you know,

850
00:49:44,415 --> 00:49:48,095
Speaker 3: areas with rot and you're fetching out the old rot

851
00:49:48,215 --> 00:49:52,335
Speaker 3: and then putting a new piece in. Ideally, treat the

852
00:49:52,455 --> 00:49:56,615
Speaker 3: exposed areas of the existing timber with a preservative, a

853
00:49:56,655 --> 00:50:00,855
Speaker 3: timber preservative. So there's a couple of products out there, protein, frame,

854
00:50:00,975 --> 00:50:04,415
Speaker 3: savor and a few others, and and that will just

855
00:50:06,415 --> 00:50:10,175
Speaker 3: low down or potentially stop that rot that might be

856
00:50:10,455 --> 00:50:14,455
Speaker 3: in the timber already from continuing to grow and develop

857
00:50:14,495 --> 00:50:17,935
Speaker 3: through the timber. So you know, do the exposed areas

858
00:50:18,015 --> 00:50:20,935
Speaker 3: as well as use the right type of timber. I

859
00:50:21,175 --> 00:50:25,175
Speaker 3: treated timber for the repairs. But it sounds like you've

860
00:50:25,255 --> 00:50:28,255
Speaker 3: you've got it under control. I mean, it's it's one

861
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Speaker 3: of those jobs, you know, if you're contracting someone to

862
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Speaker 3: do it, and you know, I've done so many, like

863
00:50:35,455 --> 00:50:40,375
Speaker 3: double hung sash windows for example, where it's time consuming. Right,

864
00:50:40,415 --> 00:50:43,335
Speaker 3: it's fiddley work. You disassemble the window, you pull out

865
00:50:43,335 --> 00:50:46,575
Speaker 3: the sashes, you take out the dividing bed. You might

866
00:50:46,615 --> 00:50:49,415
Speaker 3: have to do a few little repairs. You could spend

867
00:50:49,415 --> 00:50:51,855
Speaker 3: a day two days working on a window, put it

868
00:50:51,895 --> 00:50:54,735
Speaker 3: back together again. And look, when I'm doing it on

869
00:50:55,295 --> 00:50:57,655
Speaker 3: my place or one of my own projects, then that's

870
00:50:57,735 --> 00:50:59,975
Speaker 3: my time and that's fine when I'm doing it for

871
00:51:00,015 --> 00:51:02,455
Speaker 3: a client, and then you know at the invoice at

872
00:51:02,495 --> 00:51:03,935
Speaker 3: the end of the week you've got I spent a

873
00:51:04,015 --> 00:51:05,935
Speaker 3: day and a half working on a window and at

874
00:51:05,935 --> 00:51:07,535
Speaker 3: the end just looks like a window.

875
00:51:08,015 --> 00:51:08,375
Speaker 4: Yikes.

876
00:51:09,695 --> 00:51:11,975
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

877
00:51:12,015 --> 00:51:14,775
Speaker 3: if you've got a painting question. We might have a

878
00:51:14,855 --> 00:51:18,415
Speaker 3: couple of minutes for a couple more texts for our

879
00:51:18,535 --> 00:51:22,335
Speaker 3: painting expert Bryce McDermott, who will be along shortly thereafter

880
00:51:22,415 --> 00:51:25,615
Speaker 3: we're back into building. So eight hundred eighty ten eighty

881
00:51:25,735 --> 00:51:28,215
Speaker 3: is the number to call if you've got a building

882
00:51:28,335 --> 00:51:31,655
Speaker 3: question coming up shortly doing.

883
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Speaker 3: zeb righty, oh, let's get amongst it. And here I

904
00:52:54,295 --> 00:52:56,575
Speaker 3: was thinking people were being a little bit shy with

905
00:52:56,615 --> 00:53:00,615
Speaker 3: their painting questions today. But I know, obviously there's quite

906
00:53:00,615 --> 00:53:02,815
Speaker 3: a lot of painting going on, and to be fair,

907
00:53:03,735 --> 00:53:06,855
Speaker 3: it feels like a summer holiday bryce is not complete

908
00:53:06,935 --> 00:53:08,175
Speaker 3: unless we do some painting.

909
00:53:09,455 --> 00:53:11,935
Speaker 4: Yes, with the radio screaming in the background.

910
00:53:12,895 --> 00:53:14,495
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

911
00:53:15,215 --> 00:53:15,455
Speaker 9: Yeah.

912
00:53:15,495 --> 00:53:17,935
Speaker 3: I mean, look, it was certainly part of my childhood

913
00:53:17,935 --> 00:53:20,255
Speaker 3: growing up, and I kind of get that sense of

914
00:53:20,295 --> 00:53:22,055
Speaker 3: looking around the house, looking at the little jobs that

915
00:53:22,135 --> 00:53:25,175
Speaker 3: need doing going. I kind of understand now why Dad

916
00:53:25,295 --> 00:53:29,095
Speaker 3: every summer holidays he was out there doing painting constantly.

917
00:53:29,295 --> 00:53:33,855
Speaker 4: Yes, goodness, the timber plank between two sawhorses.

918
00:53:34,255 --> 00:53:38,775
Speaker 3: Oh, it's not even go there. Yeah, some things thankfully

919
00:53:38,815 --> 00:53:41,575
Speaker 3: have improved. Hey, well, great to have you back on

920
00:53:41,615 --> 00:53:45,975
Speaker 3: the show for twenty twenty five. Really appreciate it. And

921
00:53:45,975 --> 00:53:48,135
Speaker 3: and you're you know, this is the time, I guess,

922
00:53:48,175 --> 00:53:49,855
Speaker 3: you know, I was working, to be fair, I was

923
00:53:49,895 --> 00:53:52,735
Speaker 3: working in the garden yesterday. I wasn't doing any painting yesterday,

924
00:53:53,095 --> 00:53:56,335
Speaker 3: but I was very aware that working in direct sunlight.

925
00:53:56,655 --> 00:53:58,335
Speaker 3: You know, that's hard on the back of your knees,

926
00:53:58,415 --> 00:54:02,055
Speaker 3: as I've discovered this morning. But it's if you're trying

927
00:54:02,095 --> 00:54:04,095
Speaker 3: to paint in direct sunlight, that's a pretty much a

928
00:54:04,175 --> 00:54:04,855
Speaker 3: no no, isn't it.

929
00:54:05,415 --> 00:54:05,615
Speaker 8: Yeah.

930
00:54:05,655 --> 00:54:10,495
Speaker 4: I just it artificially sort of speeds up the drying

931
00:54:10,735 --> 00:54:13,935
Speaker 4: or the curing of the pain basically, and you know,

932
00:54:14,015 --> 00:54:17,055
Speaker 4: it's meant to sort of take its time. And you know,

933
00:54:17,455 --> 00:54:19,575
Speaker 4: even though it feels dry on the surface, so you know,

934
00:54:19,655 --> 00:54:22,335
Speaker 4: it's still not properly cue it underneath.

935
00:54:22,335 --> 00:54:26,375
Speaker 3: Excuse me, Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right. Hey, well, look

936
00:54:26,415 --> 00:54:28,735
Speaker 3: the text are coming thick and fast, so let's rip

937
00:54:28,815 --> 00:54:34,255
Speaker 3: into it now, quick dry undercoat, razine, quick dry undercoat

938
00:54:34,295 --> 00:54:38,775
Speaker 3: on a nineteen eight bungalow exterior. I wonder whether people

939
00:54:38,775 --> 00:54:41,655
Speaker 3: are asking about certain types of native timber that don't

940
00:54:41,695 --> 00:54:48,415
Speaker 3: really like oil based or water solvent born primers. Is yeah,

941
00:54:48,655 --> 00:54:49,855
Speaker 3: what's the general.

942
00:54:49,575 --> 00:54:57,735
Speaker 4: Let Totra and Natti right have something in it that

943
00:54:57,735 --> 00:55:00,215
Speaker 4: that oil based primers do not like it, just to fix,

944
00:55:00,535 --> 00:55:02,775
Speaker 4: fix the cross linking of it and the drying of

945
00:55:02,815 --> 00:55:06,015
Speaker 4: it and stuff like that, whereas good old quick dry

946
00:55:06,295 --> 00:55:08,295
Speaker 4: and they'll just fly over it and you can put

947
00:55:08,295 --> 00:55:09,815
Speaker 4: anything you like over the top of it.

948
00:55:10,015 --> 00:55:12,415
Speaker 3: Yeah, perfect, all right. I knew it was the case.

949
00:55:13,215 --> 00:55:17,095
Speaker 3: So if now nineteen oh eight, chances are it's culdry

950
00:55:17,215 --> 00:55:20,575
Speaker 3: for example, on the exterior, or if it's a slightly

951
00:55:20,615 --> 00:55:23,855
Speaker 3: old one, it might even be some early cedar. For those,

952
00:55:24,255 --> 00:55:26,775
Speaker 3: you can use a solvent born or an oil based

953
00:55:28,175 --> 00:55:28,535
Speaker 3: with the.

954
00:55:28,535 --> 00:55:31,335
Speaker 4: Hard native timbers, I'd probably just go quick drive right

955
00:55:31,415 --> 00:55:34,695
Speaker 4: the cedar. The cedar. You know, that's if it's really

956
00:55:34,735 --> 00:55:38,175
Speaker 4: super old, which probably is, you know, you'd be you'd

957
00:55:38,175 --> 00:55:40,895
Speaker 4: be stripping that right back because cedar is quite a

958
00:55:40,895 --> 00:55:43,175
Speaker 4: soft timber, and you know stuff can peel away from

959
00:55:43,175 --> 00:55:46,735
Speaker 4: it quite easily. Yep, I can, So you'd be using

960
00:55:46,895 --> 00:55:48,575
Speaker 4: if you're going back to be a timber, I would

961
00:55:48,655 --> 00:55:52,295
Speaker 4: use on cedar timber lock, which is like a timber

962
00:55:52,335 --> 00:55:57,255
Speaker 4: preservative and binder, and then you can put your oil

963
00:55:57,255 --> 00:55:58,975
Speaker 4: based primer over the top of that and you've got

964
00:55:58,975 --> 00:56:01,655
Speaker 4: a good solid base for coats over the top.

965
00:56:02,175 --> 00:56:06,655
Speaker 3: Bant brilliant question for Bryce. I want to restain a deck,

966
00:56:06,695 --> 00:56:08,855
Speaker 3: but it's got a couple of paint marks on it.

967
00:56:08,935 --> 00:56:13,855
Speaker 3: How do I prep these spots and areas? So beer

968
00:56:13,935 --> 00:56:15,335
Speaker 3: timber try you.

969
00:56:15,375 --> 00:56:18,975
Speaker 4: Have to try and scrape it off, and I would

970
00:56:19,175 --> 00:56:21,615
Speaker 4: instead of just spot sanding, you might have to sand

971
00:56:21,615 --> 00:56:25,255
Speaker 4: the entire length of the offending board. Otherwise you'll end

972
00:56:25,295 --> 00:56:28,615
Speaker 4: up with light patches where you're going to do you staining. Yes,

973
00:56:28,895 --> 00:56:31,135
Speaker 4: you know, if you sand an entire length of the board,

974
00:56:31,215 --> 00:56:34,495
Speaker 4: or at least to a joint on the timber, you

975
00:56:34,495 --> 00:56:37,495
Speaker 4: know at least you'll have something that's you know, reasonably

976
00:56:38,535 --> 00:56:41,975
Speaker 4: what's the word I'm looking for, Well, it's not patchy anyway.

977
00:56:41,735 --> 00:56:44,455
Speaker 3: Yeah, Because if you've got a bit of let's say

978
00:56:44,455 --> 00:56:46,535
Speaker 3: it's a bit of pine decking, and you've spilt a

979
00:56:46,535 --> 00:56:48,895
Speaker 3: bit of paint on one area and you vigorously sand

980
00:56:48,935 --> 00:56:50,455
Speaker 3: that out and you get rid of it. But suddenly

981
00:56:50,455 --> 00:56:52,815
Speaker 3: you've made that timber look completely different to the rest

982
00:56:52,815 --> 00:56:54,655
Speaker 3: of it. And when you stain it, that's just going

983
00:56:54,735 --> 00:56:55,695
Speaker 3: to highlight that, isn't it.

984
00:56:56,255 --> 00:56:57,935
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've gone back to nose clean timber.

985
00:56:59,375 --> 00:57:02,975
Speaker 3: All right, So try and even that sanding out and

986
00:57:03,015 --> 00:57:06,415
Speaker 3: then it will appear or be less obvious. Right, A

987
00:57:06,455 --> 00:57:09,335
Speaker 3: low brick fence that has white paint along the top

988
00:57:09,375 --> 00:57:11,415
Speaker 3: and on the post that's all chipped and needs painting.

989
00:57:11,815 --> 00:57:14,215
Speaker 3: Best way of repainting.

990
00:57:16,575 --> 00:57:18,815
Speaker 4: Well, you could there's there's two ways you could do it.

991
00:57:19,855 --> 00:57:24,495
Speaker 4: Any beer brick obviously wouldn't have to have pigmented teela

992
00:57:24,535 --> 00:57:25,175
Speaker 4: or a sure.

993
00:57:24,935 --> 00:57:26,615
Speaker 9: Seem applied to it.

994
00:57:26,655 --> 00:57:28,455
Speaker 4: But then you know, you could use a big sick

995
00:57:28,575 --> 00:57:31,735
Speaker 4: lambs we'll roller, right, you know, which would you know?

996
00:57:31,775 --> 00:57:36,335
Speaker 4: Which is something like well somewhere between sixteen and maybe

997
00:57:36,375 --> 00:57:39,495
Speaker 4: twenty mili worth of fibers on the roller sleeve, which

998
00:57:39,535 --> 00:57:42,775
Speaker 4: does get into the pointing and stuff like that carries

999
00:57:42,815 --> 00:57:44,855
Speaker 4: a very large amount of paint at the same time.

1000
00:57:44,975 --> 00:57:48,935
Speaker 4: Or you could spray.

1001
00:57:47,655 --> 00:57:50,935
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, and in terms of going over let's say

1002
00:57:50,975 --> 00:57:55,095
Speaker 3: those exposed areas of whether masonry is exposed as opposed

1003
00:57:55,135 --> 00:57:58,415
Speaker 3: to repainting over existing paint. Would you spot prime?

1004
00:57:59,415 --> 00:58:01,855
Speaker 4: Yes, spot prime on the beer areas?

1005
00:58:01,895 --> 00:58:02,135
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1006
00:58:02,255 --> 00:58:02,455
Speaker 10: Cool.

1007
00:58:03,295 --> 00:58:05,535
Speaker 3: Now they also go to say in this text, also,

1008
00:58:05,615 --> 00:58:08,455
Speaker 3: my home's on a busy bend in terms of the road,

1009
00:58:08,535 --> 00:58:10,255
Speaker 3: and I was wondering if there's a paint that shows

1010
00:58:10,335 --> 00:58:13,375
Speaker 3: up in the dark for safety, like the white lines

1011
00:58:13,455 --> 00:58:18,975
Speaker 3: on a road. Is there aluminiscent, loom lumscent painted.

1012
00:58:20,255 --> 00:58:21,455
Speaker 10: That reflects Not?

1013
00:58:21,655 --> 00:58:25,255
Speaker 4: Really. We do have small pots of fluorescent paint that

1014
00:58:25,455 --> 00:58:28,455
Speaker 4: we use for craft purposes. You know, they're become in

1015
00:58:28,455 --> 00:58:30,735
Speaker 4: a two fifty milli pot, so you'd be you know,

1016
00:58:31,135 --> 00:58:32,975
Speaker 4: you'd be buying quite a few if you wanted it.

1017
00:58:33,695 --> 00:58:35,495
Speaker 3: I don't know that they necessarily want to paint the

1018
00:58:35,495 --> 00:58:37,535
Speaker 3: whole thing, but maybe just a couple of strips on

1019
00:58:37,575 --> 00:58:39,975
Speaker 3: it that sort of would highlight the fact that, hey,

1020
00:58:40,015 --> 00:58:40,975
Speaker 3: there's a bend in the road.

1021
00:58:41,935 --> 00:58:45,895
Speaker 4: But I know what the roadmaking guys do. They have

1022
00:58:47,095 --> 00:58:50,615
Speaker 4: glass beads, very very fine glass beats. It feels like sand.

1023
00:58:51,695 --> 00:58:55,535
Speaker 4: And when as they're putting the roadmaking paint down, if

1024
00:58:55,535 --> 00:58:57,775
Speaker 4: they want the lights to shine through it. They actually

1025
00:58:58,175 --> 00:59:00,655
Speaker 4: immediately throw these glass beads on top of the wet

1026
00:59:01,095 --> 00:59:04,535
Speaker 4: road marking paint that they're doing and when the car

1027
00:59:04,655 --> 00:59:09,775
Speaker 4: lights shine through it and actually looming a right, whether

1028
00:59:09,855 --> 00:59:12,615
Speaker 4: or not it's still the practice, I couldn't tell you,

1029
00:59:12,695 --> 00:59:16,375
Speaker 4: but you know, you know I've had occasion to sort

1030
00:59:16,375 --> 00:59:21,455
Speaker 4: of see that in action in the past. So yeah,

1031
00:59:21,535 --> 00:59:23,735
Speaker 4: you'd have to go to a road marking supplies maybe

1032
00:59:23,775 --> 00:59:25,415
Speaker 4: and see if you can get some of those little

1033
00:59:25,455 --> 00:59:28,735
Speaker 4: glass beads just throw it.

1034
00:59:28,775 --> 00:59:32,735
Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, I'm with you, Or just buy some reflectors

1035
00:59:32,855 --> 00:59:37,295
Speaker 3: and screw them on might be easier as well. Right morning,

1036
00:59:37,295 --> 00:59:39,535
Speaker 3: Pat question for your razine man, that's to you Bryce.

1037
00:59:39,655 --> 00:59:43,295
Speaker 3: Painting over wallpaper that has previously been painted some edges

1038
00:59:43,335 --> 00:59:46,495
Speaker 3: have lifted. What's the best glue to use and what

1039
00:59:46,775 --> 00:59:50,015
Speaker 3: to do whether the paint looks like it's repelling away

1040
00:59:50,095 --> 00:59:54,175
Speaker 3: from a waxy or oily substance underneath. It's been cleaned

1041
00:59:54,215 --> 00:59:57,215
Speaker 3: down with sugar soaked and I'm painting to top coat,

1042
00:59:57,255 --> 00:59:59,775
Speaker 3: so there's a lot in there. So prepping. If you're

1043
00:59:59,775 --> 01:00:01,895
Speaker 3: going to paint over wallpaper, what's the prep.

1044
01:00:03,855 --> 01:00:07,735
Speaker 4: Well, if it's been painted already, yep, you just need.

1045
01:00:08,175 --> 01:00:10,855
Speaker 4: You need to wash it down, you know, just get

1046
01:00:10,935 --> 01:00:14,135
Speaker 4: rid of dirt, dust and various bits of grim and

1047
01:00:14,135 --> 01:00:17,135
Speaker 4: stuff like that. If it's a vinyl wallpaper and it

1048
01:00:17,175 --> 01:00:20,375
Speaker 4: hasn't been painted, then you're going to need a vinyl

1049
01:00:20,415 --> 01:00:23,495
Speaker 4: wallpaper sealer before you put water based paints over the

1050
01:00:23,535 --> 01:00:27,375
Speaker 4: top of it. The plasticizers and the vinyl do not

1051
01:00:27,455 --> 01:00:31,855
Speaker 4: allow acrylics to drive prop me and once you've put

1052
01:00:31,855 --> 01:00:33,935
Speaker 4: your paint up, you can eventually peel it off and

1053
01:00:34,295 --> 01:00:40,695
Speaker 4: rubbery type strips. So if it's bere vinyl paper, paper

1054
01:00:40,775 --> 01:00:44,575
Speaker 4: sealer and then two coats of acrylic, yes, if the

1055
01:00:44,735 --> 01:00:48,295
Speaker 4: edges are peeling away and it's a painted surface, then

1056
01:00:48,295 --> 01:00:49,775
Speaker 4: you might have to use something like a bit of

1057
01:00:49,815 --> 01:00:54,055
Speaker 4: PVA just to just wish it back down again. Then

1058
01:00:54,095 --> 01:00:58,735
Speaker 4: white exs PVA off and carry on as per before.

1059
01:01:00,495 --> 01:01:01,455
Speaker 4: What was the third thing?

1060
01:01:04,895 --> 01:01:08,135
Speaker 3: What they're saying is that the paint and looks it's repelling. Well,

1061
01:01:08,135 --> 01:01:10,255
Speaker 3: that's that whole issue of vinyl, isn't it. So if

1062
01:01:10,295 --> 01:01:13,135
Speaker 3: you've got a vinyl paper, it won't accept paint, so

1063
01:01:13,215 --> 01:01:14,895
Speaker 3: you need to use the right celer.

1064
01:01:15,495 --> 01:01:18,935
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it won't it won't sort of separate virtually

1065
01:01:18,975 --> 01:01:21,775
Speaker 4: straight away, right it'll go over the top of it,

1066
01:01:21,855 --> 01:01:23,935
Speaker 4: but you'll be able to pick at it with your

1067
01:01:23,935 --> 01:01:28,095
Speaker 4: fingers and just feel it off. Okay, there might be

1068
01:01:28,175 --> 01:01:30,975
Speaker 4: some form of contamination, like if it's a kitchen area,

1069
01:01:31,015 --> 01:01:33,015
Speaker 4: for instance, it might be a bit of cooking fat

1070
01:01:33,135 --> 01:01:35,495
Speaker 4: or a bit of grease or something like that that's

1071
01:01:35,495 --> 01:01:36,415
Speaker 4: caused it to do that.

1072
01:01:37,175 --> 01:01:39,295
Speaker 3: Now, I think as a general thing, we tend to

1073
01:01:39,575 --> 01:01:45,695
Speaker 3: underestimate just how grimy surfaces can be over time, and that,

1074
01:01:46,255 --> 01:01:49,335
Speaker 3: you know, washing down surfaces prior to painting is actually

1075
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Speaker 3: really really important.

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01:01:52,175 --> 01:01:55,135
Speaker 4: A lot of people revert to sugar soap, which, you know,

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01:01:55,255 --> 01:01:57,775
Speaker 4: while it will do the job, it's very very powerful

1078
01:01:57,815 --> 01:02:00,935
Speaker 4: cleaner and a grease remover, but if you do use it,

1079
01:02:01,015 --> 01:02:03,735
Speaker 4: you've got to make sure that you you rinse and

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01:02:04,455 --> 01:02:07,575
Speaker 4: get rid of all the sugar right grease residue off

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Speaker 4: the area.

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01:02:08,415 --> 01:02:10,095
Speaker 8: Yes, it's if.

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01:02:09,975 --> 01:02:15,135
Speaker 4: You leave any sort of residual or soap containing grease

1084
01:02:15,215 --> 01:02:17,095
Speaker 4: residual or whatever you'd like to call it, If you

1085
01:02:17,175 --> 01:02:19,095
Speaker 4: leave that on the surface, that's another issue.

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01:02:19,295 --> 01:02:19,615
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:02:19,695 --> 01:02:26,215
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, yep, or someone's asking about coating over

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01:02:26,335 --> 01:02:31,655
Speaker 3: a rubber membrane, but I think that that's best left.

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01:02:31,775 --> 01:02:34,695
Speaker 3: You know, there are proprietary products for that a you.

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01:02:34,655 --> 01:02:37,415
Speaker 4: Know there there is We've got a product that will

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01:02:37,455 --> 01:02:41,255
Speaker 4: stick to beautinol okay, but there is there are other

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01:02:41,855 --> 01:02:44,055
Speaker 4: membranes out there, like I don't know whether you've had

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01:02:44,055 --> 01:02:48,655
Speaker 4: a t P A yep, danger danger, Do not paint it.

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01:02:49,135 --> 01:02:51,415
Speaker 4: Nothing will stick to it, Nothing will stick to it.

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01:02:51,695 --> 01:02:57,535
Speaker 3: T PO yeah, TP yeah. Now this is a classic

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01:02:57,575 --> 01:03:00,015
Speaker 3: and I noticed that this is starting to happen to

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01:03:00,055 --> 01:03:02,015
Speaker 3: be fair at my place as well. How do you

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01:03:02,135 --> 01:03:05,415
Speaker 3: paint over where a nail has started to rust and

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01:03:05,455 --> 01:03:07,975
Speaker 3: it's it's bleach eating out. You can see the rust

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01:03:08,015 --> 01:03:11,095
Speaker 3: e merging through a painted surface. So let's say you

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01:03:11,135 --> 01:03:13,695
Speaker 3: painted the house, you know five years ago, ten years ago,

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01:03:13,855 --> 01:03:15,855
Speaker 3: you had a couple of rusty nails and they're starting

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01:03:15,935 --> 01:03:18,215
Speaker 3: to bleed out. What's what's the treatment there?

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01:03:19,615 --> 01:03:24,015
Speaker 4: Generally, if the best way is to punch the nail

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01:03:24,095 --> 01:03:29,815
Speaker 4: through and replace it with a galvanized point, right, you'll

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01:03:29,855 --> 01:03:34,295
Speaker 4: still have basically rustaining. So you need to neutralize the

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01:03:34,375 --> 01:03:38,655
Speaker 4: rustaining with a bit of oxeller cacid.

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Speaker 8: I believe you.

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01:03:40,655 --> 01:03:45,135
Speaker 4: Can buy it and at the hardware store. It's a

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01:03:45,335 --> 01:03:49,495
Speaker 4: CLR stuff that they are on television that will neutralize

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01:03:49,575 --> 01:03:54,255
Speaker 4: rust spots. And then yet once you've done that, you know,

1112
01:03:54,295 --> 01:03:59,575
Speaker 4: punched the nail through prime, refill prime again, and then

1113
01:03:59,735 --> 01:04:01,935
Speaker 4: you know proceed was you know, the acrylic top cut

1114
01:04:01,975 --> 01:04:04,415
Speaker 4: over the top. If it's a good condition, you may

1115
01:04:04,455 --> 01:04:06,695
Speaker 4: be able to get away with just spot priming the areas.

1116
01:04:06,735 --> 01:04:09,735
Speaker 4: But you might have to paint me an entire board,

1117
01:04:09,775 --> 01:04:11,575
Speaker 4: for instance, just to make it even.

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01:04:11,615 --> 01:04:15,335
Speaker 3: Right to let it blend in. Here is a really

1119
01:04:15,415 --> 01:04:19,855
Speaker 3: good practical question, Please ask Bryce. What's the best way

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01:04:19,855 --> 01:04:23,295
Speaker 3: to keep the top of a paint ten locking ring

1121
01:04:23,615 --> 01:04:25,375
Speaker 3: clean when you're painting.

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01:04:26,935 --> 01:04:29,855
Speaker 4: Some guys will actually get a nail and punch little

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01:04:29,855 --> 01:04:33,175
Speaker 4: holes around that ring with the lidsits and really that way,

1124
01:04:33,695 --> 01:04:35,575
Speaker 4: and when you know, when they go, you know, when

1125
01:04:35,575 --> 01:04:39,935
Speaker 4: you rub, you you know, take excess paint off to

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01:04:39,935 --> 01:04:41,815
Speaker 4: to up your brush on that ring, it sort of

1127
01:04:41,855 --> 01:04:44,735
Speaker 4: just fills it up. But if you guys will punch

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01:04:44,855 --> 01:04:47,055
Speaker 4: nail holes in it and it allows you know, wet

1129
01:04:47,055 --> 01:04:48,815
Speaker 4: paint to actually dribble back into the can.

1130
01:04:50,975 --> 01:04:54,175
Speaker 3: It's a bit of a tip. Though. I've started to

1131
01:04:54,175 --> 01:04:55,695
Speaker 3: get into the habit of let's say I've got my

1132
01:04:56,055 --> 01:05:00,295
Speaker 3: you know, four liter ten right, so middle ten, and

1133
01:05:00,815 --> 01:05:04,935
Speaker 3: I decant from there into a smaller ten that I

1134
01:05:05,095 --> 01:05:07,135
Speaker 3: use for, you know, to put my brush in and

1135
01:05:07,175 --> 01:05:10,375
Speaker 3: do my painting rather than painting from the tin that

1136
01:05:10,455 --> 01:05:11,815
Speaker 3: I'm storing my paint in.

1137
01:05:12,775 --> 01:05:15,735
Speaker 4: Yes, because it can you can get skin swarming on

1138
01:05:15,775 --> 01:05:18,695
Speaker 4: the top of any length of time. So yes, that

1139
01:05:19,095 --> 01:05:21,175
Speaker 4: I should have thought of that one before. But I

1140
01:05:21,215 --> 01:05:23,495
Speaker 4: know that people do punched little nail holes into the

1141
01:05:23,535 --> 01:05:24,295
Speaker 4: ring around the tin.

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01:05:24,735 --> 01:05:28,175
Speaker 3: Right, that's snifty, and I must have in my workshop

1143
01:05:28,215 --> 01:05:30,935
Speaker 3: the other day that was being used by someone else

1144
01:05:30,975 --> 01:05:34,695
Speaker 3: whose name will go and unmentioned, who then was using

1145
01:05:34,775 --> 01:05:37,215
Speaker 3: the old raisine quick dry to do a little project.

1146
01:05:37,215 --> 01:05:39,175
Speaker 3: And I went back in. They'd done a quite good

1147
01:05:39,255 --> 01:05:41,855
Speaker 3: job of tidying up, but they hadn't nailed the lid

1148
01:05:42,095 --> 01:05:44,975
Speaker 3: or banged the lid down quite tight enough on the top.

1149
01:05:45,015 --> 01:05:47,575
Speaker 3: And I came in, I noticed that the room was

1150
01:05:47,975 --> 01:05:50,415
Speaker 3: sticking up a couple of mill and I thought, ah, rats,

1151
01:05:51,655 --> 01:05:54,335
Speaker 3: So yeah, you've got to clean out that that line.

1152
01:05:54,375 --> 01:05:56,335
Speaker 3: I mean typically I try and do it with the

1153
01:05:56,335 --> 01:06:01,895
Speaker 3: brushes i'm working away, but then making sure that you

1154
01:06:01,975 --> 01:06:05,015
Speaker 3: seal your tins properly before. If you're going to store paint,

1155
01:06:05,055 --> 01:06:07,135
Speaker 3: let's say, over the winter, you want to make sure

1156
01:06:07,175 --> 01:06:11,415
Speaker 3: that that lip is clean and that you keep that

1157
01:06:11,495 --> 01:06:14,295
Speaker 3: clean and seal them correctly before putting them away.

1158
01:06:14,575 --> 01:06:14,895
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1159
01:06:14,975 --> 01:06:16,695
Speaker 4: Yes, and you know the same words with the ten

1160
01:06:16,815 --> 01:06:18,495
Speaker 4: le to pale as well. I mean, you know you

1161
01:06:18,615 --> 01:06:21,295
Speaker 4: get you can get paint built up on the rim

1162
01:06:21,335 --> 01:06:23,175
Speaker 4: of the ten letter pail. So as long as you

1163
01:06:23,295 --> 01:06:25,695
Speaker 4: keep that clean, and if you're going to store it,

1164
01:06:25,775 --> 01:06:27,975
Speaker 4: you know, you put the lid on and then press

1165
01:06:28,095 --> 01:06:29,935
Speaker 4: down in the center of the lid and open it

1166
01:06:30,015 --> 01:06:32,655
Speaker 4: up a bit. Then just force the excess here out

1167
01:06:32,695 --> 01:06:35,935
Speaker 4: of the ten le to pail. Yes, if you know

1168
01:06:35,975 --> 01:06:38,495
Speaker 4: what I mean. You put the lid down, then push

1169
01:06:38,535 --> 01:06:40,175
Speaker 4: the center of the lid and lift a corner up

1170
01:06:40,215 --> 01:06:41,935
Speaker 4: and you're here of the year. Just tiss out as

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01:06:41,935 --> 01:06:42,775
Speaker 4: you're pushing it down.

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01:06:43,175 --> 01:06:47,415
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, last one for you this morning, Bryce. Can

1173
01:06:47,455 --> 01:06:54,415
Speaker 3: you paint over malamine kitchen units or kitchen cabinets, Yeah

1174
01:06:55,415 --> 01:06:55,735
Speaker 3: you can.

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01:06:56,135 --> 01:07:02,775
Speaker 4: You can. We have a primer called Malamine and laminate primer. Yes,

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01:07:03,855 --> 01:07:08,295
Speaker 4: it's it's a water born sealers that you can apply

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01:07:08,375 --> 01:07:10,935
Speaker 4: to the cabinet. You've got to let it drive properly.

1178
01:07:11,215 --> 01:07:14,855
Speaker 4: It really takes quite a while to actually gain its adhesion,

1179
01:07:14,895 --> 01:07:18,255
Speaker 4: and very very cold temperature it will stick to it

1180
01:07:18,335 --> 01:07:20,375
Speaker 4: quite happily, but it's got to be kicked. You know,

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01:07:20,415 --> 01:07:23,695
Speaker 4: it's got to be clean before you attempt that. And

1182
01:07:23,735 --> 01:07:27,655
Speaker 4: then I would you know, depending on the type of

1183
01:07:27,655 --> 01:07:30,575
Speaker 4: paint you wanted to put over the top, you will

1184
01:07:30,615 --> 01:07:33,815
Speaker 4: need to undicate it as well, just to provide a

1185
01:07:33,815 --> 01:07:37,495
Speaker 4: bit of a cushion between the adhesion primer and the

1186
01:07:37,535 --> 01:07:40,135
Speaker 4: top coats. Right, But it will knock, you know, if

1187
01:07:40,135 --> 01:07:42,895
Speaker 4: it gets nice and stuff like that, it will chip

1188
01:07:43,175 --> 01:07:46,695
Speaker 4: and it will get damaged. So, I mean, while you know,

1189
01:07:46,735 --> 01:07:49,175
Speaker 4: it'll do the job, but you know, there are certain

1190
01:07:49,215 --> 01:07:50,495
Speaker 4: things that you have to expect.

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01:07:51,735 --> 01:07:54,455
Speaker 3: Actually, given that we've talked about painting over things that

1192
01:07:54,535 --> 01:07:57,695
Speaker 3: really aren't desired, I've got one further question, which is

1193
01:07:58,015 --> 01:08:05,095
Speaker 3: around let me see where I can find it. Yeah,

1194
01:08:05,255 --> 01:08:10,015
Speaker 3: some glazed tiles underneath a fire from the nineteen seventies

1195
01:08:10,015 --> 01:08:12,535
Speaker 3: that they just want to change the color of. Can

1196
01:08:12,575 --> 01:08:15,055
Speaker 3: I paint it? If so? Would the paint be hard

1197
01:08:15,135 --> 01:08:18,775
Speaker 3: enough to withstand a bit of occasional ash that might

1198
01:08:18,855 --> 01:08:22,015
Speaker 3: come out of the fireplace. That's from Matt, Yeah.

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01:08:22,535 --> 01:08:25,415
Speaker 4: I mean you could use I know that our new

1200
01:08:25,455 --> 01:08:29,535
Speaker 4: waterborne sure seal will stick to glaze tiles. It'll stick

1201
01:08:29,575 --> 01:08:34,135
Speaker 4: to glass, so you can use that. But again you've

1202
01:08:34,135 --> 01:08:35,855
Speaker 4: got to keep it clean. You've got to get all

1203
01:08:35,895 --> 01:08:38,175
Speaker 4: the dust and grome out of the areas of where

1204
01:08:38,175 --> 01:08:41,855
Speaker 4: they've put the grouse and all that sort of stuff,

1205
01:08:41,855 --> 01:08:43,855
Speaker 4: as there is such a thing, or if they could

1206
01:08:43,895 --> 01:08:48,455
Speaker 4: be just joined very closely together like one, but it's

1207
01:08:48,495 --> 01:08:52,855
Speaker 4: got to be clean waterborne shore seal. And then you

1208
01:08:53,015 --> 01:08:56,295
Speaker 4: might want to look at something like an enamel maybe

1209
01:08:56,535 --> 01:09:00,175
Speaker 4: just to stand up, say to a bit of heat. Yes,

1210
01:09:01,455 --> 01:09:04,295
Speaker 4: and you know, if anything ash drops on it, it

1211
01:09:04,375 --> 01:09:07,415
Speaker 4: will if you drop a red hot ember on it,

1212
01:09:07,455 --> 01:09:10,655
Speaker 4: for instance, nothing will stand up to that. It'll be sure, sure,

1213
01:09:10,815 --> 01:09:13,495
Speaker 4: you know, and you will get some some staining from

1214
01:09:14,455 --> 01:09:18,295
Speaker 4: you know, from the just the general stuff that happens

1215
01:09:18,335 --> 01:09:21,335
Speaker 4: to release a smoke and all that sort of stuff.

1216
01:09:21,375 --> 01:09:22,895
Speaker 4: So you've got to expect it.

1217
01:09:23,095 --> 01:09:25,095
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess there's sort of a general caution

1218
01:09:25,215 --> 01:09:26,175
Speaker 3: with these sorts of things.

1219
01:09:26,175 --> 01:09:26,335
Speaker 9: You know.

1220
01:09:26,375 --> 01:09:28,215
Speaker 3: It's like saying, oh, look, I've got a really ugly

1221
01:09:28,335 --> 01:09:30,535
Speaker 3: tiled splash back in the kitchen. I want to paint it,

1222
01:09:31,015 --> 01:09:34,735
Speaker 3: or melimine doors or tiles around the fireplace. You know,

1223
01:09:34,855 --> 01:09:37,375
Speaker 3: do it, but have a reasonable expectation that you may

1224
01:09:37,415 --> 01:09:39,495
Speaker 3: have to do it again, and it's not going to

1225
01:09:39,535 --> 01:09:41,895
Speaker 3: be as durable as if you'd use the product that

1226
01:09:41,975 --> 01:09:42,495
Speaker 3: was designed.

1227
01:09:42,575 --> 01:09:42,775
Speaker 9: You know.

1228
01:09:43,095 --> 01:09:45,375
Speaker 3: I mean in the end, we're painting something that's ideally

1229
01:09:45,415 --> 01:09:47,655
Speaker 3: not designed to be painted. But you can do it.

1230
01:09:47,775 --> 01:09:49,655
Speaker 3: You just have to be reasonable about the outcome.

1231
01:09:50,135 --> 01:09:53,415
Speaker 9: Yeah, just before I go, you go.

1232
01:09:54,335 --> 01:09:57,415
Speaker 4: Neglected to mention something before when we were talking about.

1233
01:09:58,655 --> 01:09:59,255
Speaker 8: Sugar soap.

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01:09:59,855 --> 01:10:03,455
Speaker 4: We have an opportunity of cleaner from the interior, you know,

1235
01:10:03,695 --> 01:10:07,415
Speaker 4: paint prep that it's a water worn product. You just

1236
01:10:07,495 --> 01:10:09,415
Speaker 4: mix that up, spread on the walls and use that

1237
01:10:09,535 --> 01:10:12,415
Speaker 4: to clean your walls and perhaps not high youth areas

1238
01:10:12,415 --> 01:10:14,575
Speaker 4: where there's greet or anything like that, but it will

1239
01:10:16,095 --> 01:10:19,575
Speaker 4: clean an interior corridor wall or a bedroom wall or

1240
01:10:19,575 --> 01:10:22,015
Speaker 4: in something like that quite happily. So that's another one

1241
01:10:22,015 --> 01:10:22,455
Speaker 4: to consider.

1242
01:10:22,695 --> 01:10:24,975
Speaker 3: Yeah, I used it in the bathroom ceiling last year.

1243
01:10:24,975 --> 01:10:28,975
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what it takes it off right now, Sorry,

1244
01:10:29,055 --> 01:10:32,335
Speaker 3: I'll grab you for one last question. The product you

1245
01:10:32,375 --> 01:10:34,015
Speaker 3: were talking about, the paint that will go of, but

1246
01:10:34,255 --> 01:10:35,255
Speaker 3: not what's that product.

1247
01:10:36,455 --> 01:10:41,895
Speaker 4: It's called Membrane Roofing Primate Perfect. Yeah, but it will

1248
01:10:41,895 --> 01:10:46,295
Speaker 4: only stick beautiful, so you have to make very very

1249
01:10:46,415 --> 01:10:51,135
Speaker 4: very sure that whatever you're putting that over is actually beautiful. Yes, yeah,

1250
01:10:51,415 --> 01:10:54,375
Speaker 4: a rubber memo if it's GPO, do not.

1251
01:10:54,575 --> 01:10:59,455
Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely yeah. Hey, really appreciate it first time for

1252
01:10:59,535 --> 01:11:01,975
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. Will get you on again soon and

1253
01:11:02,375 --> 01:11:06,815
Speaker 3: really appreciate your time and all of your expertise. Thank you, Bryce, Okay,

1254
01:11:06,895 --> 01:11:10,015
Speaker 3: see yeah, take care all the best Bryce McDermott and

1255
01:11:10,175 --> 01:11:12,655
Speaker 3: Jay Sharple's both of those painting experts, will will be

1256
01:11:12,735 --> 01:11:15,895
Speaker 3: with us throughout twenty twenty five. Eight hundred thanks very

1257
01:11:15,975 --> 01:11:18,335
Speaker 3: much for your text. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1258
01:11:18,495 --> 01:11:21,495
Speaker 3: is the number to call, and a bunch of useful

1259
01:11:21,535 --> 01:11:24,295
Speaker 3: texts people suggesting things around how you kind of look

1260
01:11:24,335 --> 01:11:27,695
Speaker 3: after your paint tin, and it's actually quite important to

1261
01:11:27,735 --> 01:11:32,335
Speaker 3: be fair. The suggestion that you just chop the inside

1262
01:11:32,415 --> 01:11:34,935
Speaker 3: ring out and then use it as a workpot, that's great,

1263
01:11:34,975 --> 01:11:37,135
Speaker 3: but then you can't use it as to store your

1264
01:11:37,135 --> 01:11:41,615
Speaker 3: painting anymore. And I'll tell you what the good people

1265
01:11:41,655 --> 01:11:44,415
Speaker 3: at Razin, as they do to a number of their clients,

1266
01:11:44,415 --> 01:11:46,815
Speaker 3: send out like a little gift pack which arrived at

1267
01:11:46,855 --> 01:11:50,495
Speaker 3: my place in a four liter paint tin that had

1268
01:11:50,695 --> 01:11:53,855
Speaker 3: the inside ring knocked out. And it was nicely decorated

1269
01:11:53,895 --> 01:11:55,855
Speaker 3: and that sort of thing. And while I've gobbled up

1270
01:11:55,895 --> 01:11:58,055
Speaker 3: the chocolates and bit and pieces that paint ton, I

1271
01:11:58,135 --> 01:12:00,295
Speaker 3: will have for years, So thank you very much for that. Guys,

1272
01:12:00,775 --> 01:12:04,055
Speaker 3: it is nineteen minutes away from eight o'clock. If you've

1273
01:12:04,055 --> 01:12:06,255
Speaker 3: got a building question, call me nout I eight hundred

1274
01:12:06,335 --> 01:12:07,975
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty the number to call.

1275
01:12:09,615 --> 01:12:12,695
Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fens, or wondering

1276
01:12:12,695 --> 01:12:14,535
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall you give

1277
01:12:14,615 --> 01:12:17,255
Speaker 1: BEAUTI Wolf Cabin call on Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

1278
01:12:17,375 --> 01:12:20,695
Speaker 1: eighty the resident builder with light four solar where your

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01:12:20,735 --> 01:12:24,535
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five solar purchase earns you airpoints, dollars used.

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01:12:24,375 --> 01:12:27,815
Speaker 3: TALKSB taking your calls this morning on all things building

1281
01:12:27,855 --> 01:12:30,575
Speaker 3: and construction. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

1282
01:12:30,655 --> 01:12:33,375
Speaker 3: number to call. We have had a bit of conversation

1283
01:12:33,495 --> 01:12:38,455
Speaker 3: around cccs, and you know what happens if you're interested

1284
01:12:38,455 --> 01:12:41,855
Speaker 3: in the property that perhaps has a building consent that

1285
01:12:41,975 --> 01:12:45,335
Speaker 3: didn't get a CCC and what's involved. This text in

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Speaker 3: from Dave Hi Pete. Could you just give us a

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Speaker 3: quick list of the process required to achieve a certificate

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Speaker 3: of approval. Now that's different, so a CoA or a

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Speaker 3: certificate of approval where a CCC hasn't been obtained on

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Speaker 3: a relatively new build. We've got a small outbuilding four

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Speaker 3: by six I presume meters, which didn't need a consent

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Speaker 3: because of its size. It must be quite new because

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Speaker 3: that planning change didn't happen that long ago. So it's

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Speaker 3: less than thirty square meters doesn't necessarily require a consent.

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Speaker 3: So I pre assume that that's that extension of schedule

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Speaker 3: one that has allowed that to be built. But we

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Speaker 3: have subsequently put in a fireplace professional which will menan.

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Speaker 3: It will now need some sort of council building approval.

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Speaker 3: If I want to get a limb at any point,

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Speaker 3: it's not that you want to get a limit, it's

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Speaker 3: just a limb will be created at any point in

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Speaker 3: the future. I assume having images and certificates for the

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Speaker 3: as built work would be helpful, but roughly what else

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Speaker 3: is required? The challenge, well, a couple of challenges there.

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Speaker 3: One is that installing a fireplace does require a consent,

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Speaker 3: but it only requires a consent for the installation of

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Speaker 3: the fireplace, right, So I think that in this instance

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Speaker 3: you can build the building less than thirty square meters

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Speaker 3: if it's in the right place, except et cetera, without

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Speaker 3: needing a building consent, but the addition of the fireplace

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Speaker 3: does need a building consent. The fact that the fireplace

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Speaker 3: has been installed but you didn't apply for a building

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Speaker 3: consent means that you'll need to go for a certificate

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Speaker 3: of acceptance. What's happened with certificates of acceptance, which used

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Speaker 3: to be the old Safe and Sanitary report is council

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Speaker 3: typically now have set this standard at the same as

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Speaker 3: if you were applying for a building consent, roughly, so,

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Speaker 3: it will need some drawings, it will need the appropriate documentation,

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Speaker 3: it'll need an inspection, possibly by counsel, and then they

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Speaker 3: will issue you a CoA for that. In this instance, Dave,

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Speaker 3: you're only asking for a CoA for the fireplace, nothing else.

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Speaker 3: This is something that's important as well, is that when

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Speaker 3: dealing with a consent that doesn't have a CCC, any

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Speaker 3: inspection should only deal with what was on the concent

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Speaker 3: Other stuff that wasn't part of the consent shouldn't then

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Speaker 3: get drawn into this right, So you've got to ring

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Speaker 3: fence the scope of the work by making sure that

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Speaker 3: the inspector focuses only on the work that's part of

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Speaker 3: the building consent and not get distracted by other stuff.

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Speaker 3: So I think for you, Dave, you're probably going to

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01:15:27,215 --> 01:15:33,135
Speaker 3: need to provide drawings, documentation, warranty certificate, produce a statement

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Speaker 3: from the installer and then take that along and that

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Speaker 3: should be sufficient for a CoA or a certificate of acceptance.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully that works out well for you. But and I

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Speaker 3: don't want to be the sort of I told you so,

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Speaker 3: but even the person installing the fireplace, if they are

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Speaker 3: a professional, they should have known that you needed to

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Speaker 3: apply for a consent before doing the work. Council get

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01:15:59,375 --> 01:16:02,095
Speaker 3: mightily upset with people that turn it around, turn up

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01:16:02,095 --> 01:16:04,815
Speaker 3: and go oh ah, sorry, I forgot to get one

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01:16:04,815 --> 01:16:06,975
Speaker 3: of those what do you call them building consent things.

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Speaker 3: Didn't think it was really that important, thought I could

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Speaker 3: get away without doing it. Can you give me one now, please?

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Speaker 3: And they kind of go no. And that's why they've

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Speaker 3: also increased the burden of proof because people are doing

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01:16:17,615 --> 01:16:20,255
Speaker 3: this all the time, doing building work that they knew

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01:16:20,495 --> 01:16:24,175
Speaker 3: require a building consent, just couldn't be bothered go ahead

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01:16:24,175 --> 01:16:25,735
Speaker 3: and do it, and then ring counsel up and go,

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Speaker 3: oh hey, look, can you just give us one of

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01:16:27,095 --> 01:16:30,575
Speaker 3: those coas please? No, they won't anymore. Oh eight hundred

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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call, Steve. Very

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01:16:33,935 --> 01:16:34,815
Speaker 3: good morning to you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah you do well, Pete, Yeah, Apete. I've been an expert,

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Speaker 6: an architectural currently architectural designer for the last twenty five years,

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01:16:47,895 --> 01:16:52,055
Speaker 6: self deployed and in Auckland. And you see this all

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01:16:52,095 --> 01:16:56,575
Speaker 6: the time, people expecting that you can just get it,

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01:16:56,575 --> 01:17:01,215
Speaker 6: get a croat out acceptance, but it's not the case.

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Speaker 6: That it's a lot harder, a lot more hoop to

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Speaker 6: jump through.

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Speaker 3: And you can kind of I got a whole bunch

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Speaker 3: of quite challenging texts a little while ago, which I'm

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01:17:13,695 --> 01:17:16,295
Speaker 3: happy with, right, I'm more than happy to be challenged

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01:17:16,695 --> 01:17:19,335
Speaker 3: on my opinions and statements. And it was all along

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01:17:19,375 --> 01:17:23,335
Speaker 3: the lines of, you know, stop constantly defending counsel and

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01:17:23,415 --> 01:17:27,775
Speaker 3: encouraging bureaucracy and that sort of thing. And so generally

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01:17:28,135 --> 01:17:29,975
Speaker 3: I don't know that I do, but at the same

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Speaker 3: time I understand that the rules are there for a reason, right,

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Speaker 3: And I think what was happening, and this is probably

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Speaker 3: ten to fifteen years ago is that people were going, look,

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Speaker 3: I kind of know that I need a building consent,

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Speaker 3: but I kind of can't be bothered, so I'm just

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Speaker 3: going to go ahead and do the work. Then I

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Speaker 3: bring up counsel and go, oh, sorry, silly me, I

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Speaker 3: forgot to get a consent. Can you come out and

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01:17:47,775 --> 01:17:50,255
Speaker 3: give me one of those coas or a safe and

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01:17:50,295 --> 01:17:52,735
Speaker 3: sanitary and council have had a guts full of that,

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Speaker 3: so I completely understand that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. Look, people are so tempted, aren't they, by

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Speaker 6: the by just saving money? Isn't it about thinking they

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Speaker 6: justify themselves that they at the beginning to pay a

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Speaker 6: few thousand dollars Yet we don't know, and it kind

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Speaker 6: of they do. The guy saved my my neighbor from

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01:18:14,855 --> 01:18:16,975
Speaker 6: a pretty ugly situation that could that could have been

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01:18:17,055 --> 01:18:19,735
Speaker 6: later for him when he went and got his all

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01:18:19,815 --> 01:18:24,775
Speaker 6: his windows replaced. Lightful like, didn't need didn't need a

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Speaker 6: building consent.

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Speaker 8: Yep.

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Speaker 6: And what happened is as I came home every day,

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Speaker 6: I watched these guys who are replacing the windows put

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Speaker 6: the head, put the flashing them and they were basically

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01:18:36,415 --> 01:18:41,935
Speaker 6: just chasing the weatherboard, not tucking them up and of

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Speaker 6: course I told me. I told my neighbor, look, look,

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Speaker 6: look what's happening here. And yeah, look lucky I was

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01:18:48,815 --> 01:18:51,695
Speaker 6: there to tell him, and he he had the owners,

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01:18:51,895 --> 01:18:54,615
Speaker 6: you know, the jowinery company up about this. They were

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Speaker 6: unaware of it because these guys were external contractors.

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Speaker 11: And look, a lot of.

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Speaker 6: People think that these guys who throw these windows and

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Speaker 6: are like builders. You know, this is the misconception that

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01:19:04,935 --> 01:19:07,295
Speaker 6: you get in the industry. They must be builders because

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01:19:07,295 --> 01:19:09,335
Speaker 6: they're putting windows and they're not a lot of the

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01:19:09,375 --> 01:19:12,375
Speaker 6: time they've just they might be handy man, or they

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01:19:12,415 --> 01:19:14,135
Speaker 6: might have just picked up a hammer. Over the last

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01:19:14,175 --> 01:19:16,615
Speaker 6: six months, they've been quickly trained to throw windows in.

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Speaker 3: That's right. They've given a you know, they've got a

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01:19:18,615 --> 01:19:21,255
Speaker 3: very specific task to do, which they can do competently,

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01:19:21,375 --> 01:19:23,935
Speaker 3: but it doesn't then make them aware of all of

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01:19:23,975 --> 01:19:27,975
Speaker 3: the other legislation and restrictions around it. Steve, I've got

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01:19:28,015 --> 01:19:30,815
Speaker 3: to go, but thanks very much for jumping in and

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01:19:31,215 --> 01:19:33,695
Speaker 3: adding those thoughts. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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01:19:33,855 --> 01:19:36,055
Speaker 3: is the number to call quick text as well. Pete

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Speaker 3: takes some good photographs when you're applying for a CoA.

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01:19:38,935 --> 01:19:41,455
Speaker 3: It's that it's the whole evidence thing, right, So if

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01:19:41,535 --> 01:19:45,335
Speaker 3: you can provide evidence to say, hey, look here is

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01:19:46,015 --> 01:19:49,455
Speaker 3: some before photos, here's some you know, in process ones.

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01:19:49,495 --> 01:19:52,615
Speaker 3: Here's the critical things. If there's fire rating, if there's waterproofing,

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01:19:52,655 --> 01:19:55,495
Speaker 3: if there's particular types of timber that you use, keep

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01:19:55,495 --> 01:19:58,175
Speaker 3: all of the receipts as well. Yes, evidence is good.

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01:19:58,295 --> 01:20:01,895
Speaker 3: If you're applying for a CoA back in just a moment.

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01:20:02,935 --> 01:20:06,855
Speaker 1: Squeaky door or squeaky floor, get the rated guys from

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01:20:06,895 --> 01:20:10,615
Speaker 1: Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder with light four solar dot

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01:20:10,615 --> 01:20:12,975
Speaker 1: co dot nz here and make twenty five the year

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01:20:13,095 --> 01:20:15,335
Speaker 1: you switch to solar news talks there.

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Speaker 3: Be writi ow news talks be coming up to news

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01:20:18,455 --> 01:20:20,055
Speaker 3: time top of the hour. We've got half an hour

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01:20:20,095 --> 01:20:23,135
Speaker 3: of building time straight after news, sport and weather at

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01:20:23,295 --> 01:20:25,575
Speaker 3: eight before we jump into the garden with the red

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01:20:25,535 --> 01:20:28,695
Speaker 3: declined pasties on the road as he often is, and

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01:20:28,735 --> 01:20:31,295
Speaker 3: we've tracked him down actually, speaking of on the road,

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01:20:31,335 --> 01:20:33,375
Speaker 3: I'll be on the road next week, so if all

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01:20:33,415 --> 01:20:35,455
Speaker 3: goes well and I can figure out which buttons to push,

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01:20:35,495 --> 01:20:40,015
Speaker 3: I'll be broadcasting from dol Wronger. We're down there for

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01:20:40,095 --> 01:20:45,895
Speaker 3: a wedding family extended family. Yeah, our godson is getting

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01:20:45,895 --> 01:20:48,175
Speaker 3: married and I'm very excited about that, to be fair,

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01:20:49,175 --> 01:20:51,015
Speaker 3: and so I'll be out of toll wronger. And then

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Speaker 3: after that, actually we're going to trot on down to

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01:20:55,175 --> 01:20:57,855
Speaker 3: Road Rua and we're going to Wingspan. Now we've talked

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01:20:57,855 --> 01:21:02,255
Speaker 3: about Wingspan on this program a number of times. Of course,

1439
01:21:02,375 --> 01:21:05,095
Speaker 3: is a huge fan of it and big supporter of it,

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01:21:05,975 --> 01:21:07,695
Speaker 3: and keeps on saying to me, you've got to go,

1441
01:21:07,735 --> 01:21:09,295
Speaker 3: You've got to go, got to go. Well, I'm going.

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01:21:09,415 --> 01:21:11,495
Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to that. That'll be. That'll be

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01:21:11,655 --> 01:21:15,695
Speaker 3: after next Sunday's program on the road from Torong. Right,

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01:21:15,895 --> 01:21:17,895
Speaker 3: if you've got a question, you should call us now,

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01:21:17,935 --> 01:21:20,335
Speaker 3: oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, and I'll tell

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01:21:20,375 --> 01:21:22,695
Speaker 3: you about a little project that I've been working on

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01:21:22,735 --> 01:21:24,815
Speaker 3: because we've been talking about compliance, we've been talking about

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01:21:24,815 --> 01:21:28,815
Speaker 3: building information. Well, I got the show for you back

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01:21:28,855 --> 01:21:29,375
Speaker 3: in a moment.

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01:21:41,135 --> 01:21:41,855
Speaker 5: The world.

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01:21:47,295 --> 01:21:48,495
Speaker 2: From my love.

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01:21:57,735 --> 01:22:00,895
Speaker 1: A resident builder with Peter wolf Cap and Light four

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01:22:01,055 --> 01:22:04,335
Speaker 1: Solar a lest for power in twenty twenty five US talks.

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Speaker 3: It be your new Stalks. It be very good morning.

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01:22:06,935 --> 01:22:10,215
Speaker 3: Welcome along to the show. It is just coming up

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01:22:10,215 --> 01:22:13,135
Speaker 3: to seven minutes after eight we will talk all things

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01:22:13,175 --> 01:22:17,055
Speaker 3: building and construction through to around eight thirty. Then we're

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01:22:17,095 --> 01:22:19,215
Speaker 3: going to jump into the garden with Rud climb past.

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01:22:19,455 --> 01:22:22,215
Speaker 3: So if you've got any gardening or entopological questions, you

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01:22:22,295 --> 01:22:25,655
Speaker 3: are more than welcome to call Rud after eight thirty.

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01:22:25,655 --> 01:22:29,015
Speaker 3: But right now we're talking building. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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01:22:29,215 --> 01:22:31,735
Speaker 3: That number to call I mentioned just prior to the

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01:22:31,775 --> 01:22:34,975
Speaker 3: news because I mean, we do for very good reason,

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01:22:35,055 --> 01:22:37,375
Speaker 3: spend a bit of time on the show talking about

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01:22:37,855 --> 01:22:43,695
Speaker 3: I guess, not practical things as in we talk about legislation.

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01:22:44,175 --> 01:22:46,455
Speaker 3: I know it's practical, but it's it kind of there's

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01:22:46,535 --> 01:22:50,815
Speaker 3: the doing and then there's the thinking about doing, and

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Speaker 3: the thinking bit is the legislation. The regulations and these

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01:22:54,895 --> 01:22:57,975
Speaker 3: things govern what you can and cannot do in terms

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01:22:58,015 --> 01:23:02,655
Speaker 3: of construction at home. Schedule one, it's the Building Act,

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01:23:02,695 --> 01:23:05,655
Speaker 3: it's other pieces of legislation. They all have an impact.

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01:23:06,695 --> 01:23:10,135
Speaker 3: So one of the little projects that we have been

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01:23:10,175 --> 01:23:12,895
Speaker 3: working on over the last couple of months as a series,

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01:23:12,975 --> 01:23:17,015
Speaker 3: so it's on YouTube now called I've Been Thinking, which

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01:23:17,055 --> 01:23:20,175
Speaker 3: is essentially me thinking about a lot of things that

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01:23:20,295 --> 01:23:24,415
Speaker 3: impact building and construction and offering up hopefully some succinct,

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01:23:24,815 --> 01:23:28,975
Speaker 3: useful factual advice around like shed you one of the

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01:23:28,975 --> 01:23:32,655
Speaker 3: building act or minor variations, or why sticking to a

1479
01:23:32,655 --> 01:23:35,775
Speaker 3: building consent is really important. There's some practical stuff in there.

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Speaker 3: We talk a little bit about painting, we talk about insulation,

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01:23:38,495 --> 01:23:40,895
Speaker 3: we talk about how double glazing works. So if you've

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01:23:40,935 --> 01:23:43,495
Speaker 3: ever wondered how it works and why it works and

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01:23:43,575 --> 01:23:47,975
Speaker 3: can you prove that it works? Yes, so we've done

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01:23:47,975 --> 01:23:50,175
Speaker 3: some real science on that as well. So check it out.

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Speaker 3: If you just go to YouTube search for resident build

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01:23:53,055 --> 01:23:55,095
Speaker 3: a Peter wolf Camp or search for I've been thinking,

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01:23:55,495 --> 01:23:58,335
Speaker 3: you'll find a whole bunch of videos there for your

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01:23:59,255 --> 01:24:02,935
Speaker 3: hopefully education and entertainment because we're all into the old

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01:24:02,935 --> 01:24:06,855
Speaker 3: scrolling on social so check it out online. I've been

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01:24:06,895 --> 01:24:10,335
Speaker 3: thinking by just me peak wolf Camp, resident Builder, you'll

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01:24:10,335 --> 01:24:12,455
Speaker 3: find a whole lot of information there that'll be useful.

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01:24:12,495 --> 01:24:15,295
Speaker 3: And then as we build that library, I'm sort of

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01:24:15,295 --> 01:24:18,495
Speaker 3: taking suggestions for things that we should be talking about

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01:24:18,535 --> 01:24:20,615
Speaker 3: like we do on the show as well. Oh eight

1495
01:24:20,655 --> 01:24:22,855
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1496
01:24:23,975 --> 01:24:26,695
Speaker 3: And oh, now, just before the news, someone said, what's

1497
01:24:26,735 --> 01:24:28,655
Speaker 3: that stuff that he was talking about with regard to

1498
01:24:28,655 --> 01:24:32,495
Speaker 3: the rust. Oxalic acid. How you spell that is o

1499
01:24:33,215 --> 01:24:39,775
Speaker 3: x a lic so oxalic o x a lic acid

1500
01:24:40,495 --> 01:24:45,335
Speaker 3: you can also buy. I've noticed like water stain remover

1501
01:24:45,695 --> 01:24:48,735
Speaker 3: in hardware stores as well, which is like oxalic acid.

1502
01:24:48,815 --> 01:24:52,655
Speaker 3: And then the product that Bryce was talking about is CLR,

1503
01:24:52,695 --> 01:24:54,615
Speaker 3: which has been around for a long time. To be fair,

1504
01:24:54,655 --> 01:24:56,295
Speaker 3: I didn't know you could use it to sort of

1505
01:24:56,295 --> 01:24:58,295
Speaker 3: get rid of rust stains in that. I've got a

1506
01:24:58,295 --> 01:25:01,055
Speaker 3: little job for that later on this week as well. Sarah,

1507
01:25:01,095 --> 01:25:02,255
Speaker 3: A very good morning to you.

1508
01:25:03,335 --> 01:25:05,655
Speaker 12: Good morning Peak, can you goody.

1509
01:25:05,415 --> 01:25:06,095
Speaker 3: Good thank you?

1510
01:25:05,935 --> 01:25:08,295
Speaker 12: And else good good, good thing.

1511
01:25:08,455 --> 01:25:09,135
Speaker 3: How can I help?

1512
01:25:10,295 --> 01:25:15,055
Speaker 12: Well, we're looking to buy a house and there's a

1513
01:25:15,095 --> 01:25:18,215
Speaker 12: number of issues. There's they're often with older houses. It's

1514
01:25:18,215 --> 01:25:23,975
Speaker 12: a nineteen fifties house. It's unusual in the fact, it's

1515
01:25:24,015 --> 01:25:27,855
Speaker 12: not unusual that it's got stucco on the outside in

1516
01:25:27,975 --> 01:25:32,935
Speaker 12: a sort of star coe ceiling. What is unusual. It's

1517
01:25:33,055 --> 01:25:38,215
Speaker 12: also got that star coe on the internal walls of

1518
01:25:38,455 --> 01:25:42,695
Speaker 12: some of the rooms, like the loud and I'm thinking

1519
01:25:42,815 --> 01:25:46,135
Speaker 12: what can we do with that? We can't get a

1520
01:25:46,135 --> 01:25:49,415
Speaker 12: builder for lifele money, holidays and fair enough, you guys

1521
01:25:49,415 --> 01:25:53,095
Speaker 12: need a break. But we're trying to decide what that's

1522
01:25:53,135 --> 01:25:57,335
Speaker 12: going to cost to jub over or remove. There might

1523
01:25:57,415 --> 01:26:04,295
Speaker 12: be asbestos also, So that's just one issue. The other

1524
01:26:04,455 --> 01:26:10,895
Speaker 12: issue is they've got that the house apparently used to

1525
01:26:10,935 --> 01:26:14,895
Speaker 12: have a double garage at the roadside. What they've done

1526
01:26:15,015 --> 01:26:20,135
Speaker 12: is they've converted that garage into a studio, no bathroom,

1527
01:26:20,175 --> 01:26:23,575
Speaker 12: but just a studio, and then they've built on the

1528
01:26:23,615 --> 01:26:29,575
Speaker 12: whole length of the house and they've put the garage

1529
01:26:29,895 --> 01:26:34,375
Speaker 12: at the other end right. But all this is done

1530
01:26:34,455 --> 01:26:39,895
Speaker 12: without permits. But someone said to me they either have

1531
01:26:40,055 --> 01:26:44,815
Speaker 12: to pull it down or ask for a code of acceptance.

1532
01:26:44,935 --> 01:26:48,375
Speaker 12: But they've straightaway that. The real estate agent said no,

1533
01:26:48,455 --> 01:26:50,415
Speaker 12: they're not prepared to do that. They'll pull it down,

1534
01:26:50,495 --> 01:26:55,055
Speaker 12: but they won't get a CoA. I've measured it. It's

1535
01:26:55,255 --> 01:27:00,095
Speaker 12: one point seven meters between the corner of that new

1536
01:27:00,175 --> 01:27:05,175
Speaker 12: garage part in their new fence because they've subdivided the

1537
01:27:05,375 --> 01:27:09,855
Speaker 12: section so they're now building on the other side. So

1538
01:27:10,095 --> 01:27:12,615
Speaker 12: and then the rest of it, it's like a triangle shape.

1539
01:27:12,655 --> 01:27:15,415
Speaker 12: So it gets wider and wider is it goes back

1540
01:27:15,455 --> 01:27:20,175
Speaker 12: towards the road where the original driveway was. The problem

1541
01:27:20,255 --> 01:27:22,895
Speaker 12: is there should probably appreciate. There's no plans on file.

1542
01:27:23,095 --> 01:27:26,095
Speaker 12: Nobody can prove it was ever there. They have found

1543
01:27:26,375 --> 01:27:32,735
Speaker 12: a photo showing the original garage, so we can prove

1544
01:27:32,815 --> 01:27:36,175
Speaker 12: that it was always but yet not a great one

1545
01:27:36,335 --> 01:27:39,375
Speaker 12: that there was a garage. We can't prove that it

1546
01:27:39,415 --> 01:27:42,855
Speaker 12: was ever permitted. I guess one of my questions there is,

1547
01:27:44,095 --> 01:27:47,655
Speaker 12: are we therefore able to rebuild that garage like for

1548
01:27:47,815 --> 01:27:50,175
Speaker 12: light because it was there without a permit?

1549
01:27:52,175 --> 01:27:53,215
Speaker 3: Oh, very good question.

1550
01:28:01,615 --> 01:28:03,775
Speaker 12: And they've filed up the road as well. They've put

1551
01:28:03,855 --> 01:28:06,855
Speaker 12: the fence and behind it now so you would never

1552
01:28:06,935 --> 01:28:09,575
Speaker 12: know there was ever a driveway entrance there apart from

1553
01:28:09,615 --> 01:28:15,255
Speaker 12: this photo, this aerial shot from you know, thirty odd

1554
01:28:15,335 --> 01:28:15,695
Speaker 12: years ago.

1555
01:28:15,895 --> 01:28:17,495
Speaker 11: Whenever that goes.

1556
01:28:17,455 --> 01:28:20,255
Speaker 3: Is the intention though of the garage, it's no longer

1557
01:28:20,295 --> 01:28:22,095
Speaker 3: going to be a garage, it's going to be a

1558
01:28:22,135 --> 01:28:23,015
Speaker 3: habitable space.

1559
01:28:24,495 --> 01:28:27,575
Speaker 12: Well, I think what they've done is they're trying to

1560
01:28:27,575 --> 01:28:29,295
Speaker 12: get the best of both worlds. We just want to

1561
01:28:29,335 --> 01:28:30,055
Speaker 12: get a garage back.

1562
01:28:30,695 --> 01:28:34,095
Speaker 3: You need a garage, absolutely, and that's.

1563
01:28:33,935 --> 01:28:34,575
Speaker 11: What we want.

1564
01:28:34,695 --> 01:28:37,855
Speaker 12: But we see it as quite a usable room at

1565
01:28:37,935 --> 01:28:40,295
Speaker 12: the moment because obviously it's an end on the end,

1566
01:28:40,375 --> 01:28:42,895
Speaker 12: it's a huge, big space and they've got the car,

1567
01:28:43,095 --> 01:28:46,295
Speaker 12: they've got the bikes, they've got you know, the wreck

1568
01:28:46,415 --> 01:28:49,935
Speaker 12: room for the teenage kids in a little old studio

1569
01:28:49,975 --> 01:28:52,495
Speaker 12: at the back that you can pot around in this workshop.

1570
01:28:52,615 --> 01:28:59,415
Speaker 12: But it's not clearly consented because they've adapted that and

1571
01:29:00,175 --> 01:29:03,575
Speaker 12: they've said no, and we don't want to purchase the

1572
01:29:03,575 --> 01:29:07,655
Speaker 12: property and then have massive problems with counts because we

1573
01:29:07,695 --> 01:29:10,735
Speaker 12: can't prove there was never a garage the air and

1574
01:29:10,775 --> 01:29:13,575
Speaker 12: there's you know, there's no apart from this photo that

1575
01:29:13,695 --> 01:29:19,935
Speaker 12: does show the original garage there. We were just wonder

1576
01:29:19,935 --> 01:29:21,495
Speaker 12: if it's going to get end up in the two

1577
01:29:21,535 --> 01:29:24,815
Speaker 12: hard basket because it would affect our offer. And then

1578
01:29:25,135 --> 01:29:28,335
Speaker 12: the thing of the staco. Do we just simply jib

1579
01:29:28,375 --> 01:29:32,575
Speaker 12: over there? Obviously we'd have to get it tested for asbestos.

1580
01:29:32,615 --> 01:29:35,335
Speaker 12: That we're not so concerned about that. I guess it's

1581
01:29:36,255 --> 01:29:38,135
Speaker 12: how much over all this is going to cost.

1582
01:29:38,735 --> 01:29:41,695
Speaker 3: And look, i'd be really it'd be foolish of me

1583
01:29:41,815 --> 01:29:43,815
Speaker 3: to offer up a price on that sort of thing

1584
01:29:43,935 --> 01:29:47,295
Speaker 3: because without seeing it fair enough. At the same time,

1585
01:29:47,375 --> 01:29:51,375
Speaker 3: I mean, look, if they've got stucco on the walls

1586
01:29:51,495 --> 01:29:57,735
Speaker 3: and you know, you can like obviously you want to

1587
01:29:57,775 --> 01:29:59,415
Speaker 3: get you.

1588
01:29:59,375 --> 01:30:01,695
Speaker 12: Can reason why we would get it tested.

1589
01:30:01,815 --> 01:30:08,735
Speaker 3: You just pull off the yeah, and encapsulating asbestos is

1590
01:30:08,775 --> 01:30:13,175
Speaker 3: a kind of a prescribed way of dealing with the potential,

1591
01:30:13,255 --> 01:30:15,295
Speaker 3: right you know.

1592
01:30:15,695 --> 01:30:19,095
Speaker 12: Sure, so just a big lounge area that's got those

1593
01:30:19,135 --> 01:30:22,335
Speaker 12: internal walls. The rest of the walls appear to be

1594
01:30:22,415 --> 01:30:24,375
Speaker 12: jim ye okay.

1595
01:30:25,295 --> 01:30:28,735
Speaker 3: And in terms of like the unconsented work, I mean,

1596
01:30:28,735 --> 01:30:32,695
Speaker 3: there must be literally thousands of properties around the country

1597
01:30:32,735 --> 01:30:34,495
Speaker 3: that have unconsented work, right.

1598
01:30:34,455 --> 01:30:38,855
Speaker 12: For sure, But we're concerned about Peters because they're building

1599
01:30:38,935 --> 01:30:41,935
Speaker 12: next door. Council are going to be next door doing

1600
01:30:42,095 --> 01:30:45,535
Speaker 12: all there that and pieces as they go by, and

1601
01:30:45,535 --> 01:30:47,215
Speaker 12: they're going to see it. So it's not like it

1602
01:30:47,255 --> 01:30:50,295
Speaker 12: can go under the radar, to be fair, and we

1603
01:30:50,535 --> 01:30:52,815
Speaker 12: don't want it to be going under the radar. We

1604
01:30:52,895 --> 01:30:53,535
Speaker 12: want to get it.

1605
01:30:54,655 --> 01:30:57,695
Speaker 3: I think unless the work is you know, potentially really

1606
01:30:57,735 --> 01:31:01,215
Speaker 3: really unsafe or something like that. Council, to the best

1607
01:31:01,255 --> 01:31:03,535
Speaker 3: of my knowledge, are not in the habit of wandering

1608
01:31:03,575 --> 01:31:08,295
Speaker 3: down the street comparing old photographs and old consents with

1609
01:31:08,295 --> 01:31:11,655
Speaker 3: what they see today, right, you know, every now and

1610
01:31:11,695 --> 01:31:14,415
Speaker 3: then you hear about council entering a property and issuing

1611
01:31:14,415 --> 01:31:18,575
Speaker 3: an unsafe building notice or something like that, but that

1612
01:31:18,775 --> 01:31:20,775
Speaker 3: the last one that I can recall was a gentleman

1613
01:31:20,815 --> 01:31:23,335
Speaker 3: who decided to build a three story tower out of

1614
01:31:23,375 --> 01:31:29,015
Speaker 3: palettes and plywood in his backyard. You know, now there

1615
01:31:29,095 --> 01:31:31,135
Speaker 3: was there's a lot of other issues going on there.

1616
01:31:31,975 --> 01:31:35,335
Speaker 3: It's not like someone who's added a lean to an

1617
01:31:35,415 --> 01:31:38,215
Speaker 3: existing garage and using that as a workshop or a

1618
01:31:38,255 --> 01:31:44,255
Speaker 3: storage space. I guess the other way of looking at

1619
01:31:44,255 --> 01:31:48,975
Speaker 3: that is there is nothing to stop you purchasing the property,

1620
01:31:49,215 --> 01:31:52,855
Speaker 3: being fully aware of the risks involved in it, and

1621
01:31:53,015 --> 01:31:56,055
Speaker 3: accepting the fact that when you go to sell, as

1622
01:31:56,095 --> 01:32:00,015
Speaker 3: we all inevitably do, someone's going to ask exactly the

1623
01:32:00,015 --> 01:32:03,255
Speaker 3: same questions you're asking today of you. And then you've

1624
01:32:03,295 --> 01:32:05,455
Speaker 3: got to go, what am I? What am I going

1625
01:32:05,495 --> 01:32:06,695
Speaker 3: to say?

1626
01:32:06,855 --> 01:32:07,055
Speaker 6: You know?

1627
01:32:07,055 --> 01:32:09,775
Speaker 3: How am I going to We don't.

1628
01:32:09,615 --> 01:32:11,975
Speaker 12: Mind pulling it down and putting the proper garage bet

1629
01:32:12,055 --> 01:32:14,215
Speaker 12: at the front. I guess we're what we're wanting to

1630
01:32:14,255 --> 01:32:17,455
Speaker 12: know is can we just do that because there was

1631
01:32:17,495 --> 01:32:20,255
Speaker 12: a garage there and we're just putting it bat like

1632
01:32:20,335 --> 01:32:22,415
Speaker 12: for like, so therefore we don't need a permit to

1633
01:32:22,455 --> 01:32:24,735
Speaker 12: do that, and we pull down the rest of the structure.

1634
01:32:26,775 --> 01:32:30,535
Speaker 3: I think you'd be pushing it because you know, well

1635
01:32:30,575 --> 01:32:33,015
Speaker 3: only in the sense that like you could do, you

1636
01:32:33,055 --> 01:32:35,535
Speaker 3: could call it repairs and maintenance. I'm going to take

1637
01:32:35,535 --> 01:32:37,335
Speaker 3: off some weather boards, I'm going to take off some

1638
01:32:37,415 --> 01:32:39,375
Speaker 3: out some studs, I'm going to replace some studs. I'm

1639
01:32:39,375 --> 01:32:41,095
Speaker 3: going to replace the weather board. And then it becomes

1640
01:32:41,135 --> 01:32:43,535
Speaker 3: like Granddad's ax. Right, it's had three heads and four

1641
01:32:44,255 --> 01:32:48,775
Speaker 3: for handles? Is it still Granddad's as kind of? But

1642
01:32:48,815 --> 01:32:53,575
Speaker 3: not quite? I mean, do you actually again many other things?

1643
01:32:53,935 --> 01:32:55,495
Speaker 3: Do you need to pull it down? Can you just

1644
01:32:55,575 --> 01:32:56,775
Speaker 3: repair the garage and make it so?

1645
01:32:56,855 --> 01:33:00,255
Speaker 12: I don't know, we don't. But the property is already

1646
01:33:00,375 --> 01:33:06,655
Speaker 12: under scrutiny because they've got a you're going to laugh

1647
01:33:06,695 --> 01:33:11,695
Speaker 12: at this, they've got a car port. But that car

1648
01:33:11,775 --> 01:33:14,375
Speaker 12: port is half on the.

1649
01:33:15,175 --> 01:33:15,815
Speaker 4: What do you call it?

1650
01:33:15,855 --> 01:33:21,975
Speaker 12: The boom and although yeah, although it's I know, but

1651
01:33:22,855 --> 01:33:26,855
Speaker 12: it's right up the back in a rural dead end

1652
01:33:27,095 --> 01:33:30,495
Speaker 12: street and you can't go any further. And the council

1653
01:33:30,575 --> 01:33:32,695
Speaker 12: have never looked after the front part. And they've got

1654
01:33:32,695 --> 01:33:36,335
Speaker 12: all trees, trees, all sorts of things there and it's

1655
01:33:36,935 --> 01:33:39,895
Speaker 12: all nice and private. But the council have now decided,

1656
01:33:39,975 --> 01:33:43,375
Speaker 12: bless them, They've issued them a notice and they said,

1657
01:33:43,375 --> 01:33:46,575
Speaker 12: you could either take that down or you can pay

1658
01:33:46,935 --> 01:33:48,935
Speaker 12: a couple of thousand dollars. I think it is peaked

1659
01:33:48,975 --> 01:33:51,695
Speaker 12: to get a conceit. We'll consider if will allow you

1660
01:33:52,175 --> 01:33:56,215
Speaker 12: to keep it, and then we'll charge you potentially under

1661
01:33:56,215 --> 01:34:00,455
Speaker 12: one thousand dollars a year to rent it off us

1662
01:34:00,775 --> 01:34:03,215
Speaker 12: rent it back, which is not the end of the world.

1663
01:34:03,575 --> 01:34:06,535
Speaker 12: But because it's already under the radar, we thought, well,

1664
01:34:07,815 --> 01:34:09,815
Speaker 12: this is the other side of the property. Does that

1665
01:34:09,855 --> 01:34:14,015
Speaker 12: put the other and how much money we talking? Because

1666
01:34:14,335 --> 01:34:17,135
Speaker 12: you know, to do all these things, it's a bit

1667
01:34:17,175 --> 01:34:19,535
Speaker 12: of an open isn't it.

1668
01:34:19,975 --> 01:34:21,175
Speaker 3: A lot of this is going to come to.

1669
01:34:21,975 --> 01:34:23,815
Speaker 12: I mean they only use it. They only use it

1670
01:34:23,855 --> 01:34:25,975
Speaker 12: to chop their wood under it for the log fire.

1671
01:34:26,055 --> 01:34:29,255
Speaker 12: But look, it's not unsightly. Even the neighbors. You can

1672
01:34:29,295 --> 01:34:34,695
Speaker 12: see right down the street. They're all over the However,

1673
01:34:34,775 --> 01:34:36,935
Speaker 12: the other neighbors don't have a structure on it, so

1674
01:34:37,015 --> 01:34:39,695
Speaker 12: it's it doesn't they've turned a blind eye to there

1675
01:34:39,775 --> 01:34:42,775
Speaker 12: because there's nothing there but here they've got.

1676
01:34:42,935 --> 01:34:45,575
Speaker 3: Kind of comes down to what your risk profile is, right,

1677
01:34:45,935 --> 01:34:48,455
Speaker 3: So you know, if you are prepared to take the

1678
01:34:48,535 --> 01:34:52,815
Speaker 3: risk and you're prepared to accept that you might be

1679
01:34:52,855 --> 01:34:55,135
Speaker 3: in a position were you and have to spend some money.

1680
01:34:55,375 --> 01:34:58,015
Speaker 3: There's lots of mites and it just comes down to risk.

1681
01:34:58,215 --> 01:35:00,655
Speaker 3: I mean, in the end, you can buy whatever you want, right.

1682
01:35:02,055 --> 01:35:04,535
Speaker 12: For sure. And I guess we could go through the

1683
01:35:04,575 --> 01:35:07,175
Speaker 12: permit process and put a double ariage somewhere else on

1684
01:35:07,255 --> 01:35:09,335
Speaker 12: the property. I don't know what you I don't know.

1685
01:35:09,335 --> 01:35:11,975
Speaker 12: I don't know what you're paying for a double garage

1686
01:35:11,975 --> 01:35:12,575
Speaker 12: these days.

1687
01:35:14,255 --> 01:35:17,975
Speaker 3: That one could be that more. Yeah, but yeah, sure,

1688
01:35:19,255 --> 01:35:21,175
Speaker 3: a couple of interesting texts that are coming through in

1689
01:35:21,215 --> 01:35:23,135
Speaker 3: terms of you know, the garage should show on the limb,

1690
01:35:23,215 --> 01:35:26,055
Speaker 3: I'm not so sure. I mean, limbs don't typically tell

1691
01:35:26,135 --> 01:35:30,975
Speaker 3: you the property, and then it won't matter about the

1692
01:35:31,055 --> 01:35:34,135
Speaker 3: unconsented work as long as it's not showing on the limb.

1693
01:35:34,255 --> 01:35:36,415
Speaker 3: And then and the other thing is then you know,

1694
01:35:36,615 --> 01:35:39,615
Speaker 3: sometimes with getting finance it can be tricky if there's

1695
01:35:39,695 --> 01:35:41,135
Speaker 3: there's fish in the contract.

1696
01:35:41,135 --> 01:35:44,495
Speaker 12: We've got no problems with getting the finance. I'm more

1697
01:35:44,495 --> 01:35:48,415
Speaker 12: concerned about the insurance aspect of it. We've got something

1698
01:35:48,495 --> 01:35:51,735
Speaker 12: that's deemed illegal and let's say there was a fire

1699
01:35:52,255 --> 01:35:57,855
Speaker 12: or yeah, you know what a playing for ye, I realize.

1700
01:35:57,375 --> 01:36:00,375
Speaker 3: It, you know, risk profile that's really.

1701
01:36:00,175 --> 01:36:03,895
Speaker 12: The reason why we thought it might just be saved

1702
01:36:03,895 --> 01:36:06,335
Speaker 12: to pull it down. But we thought we made the

1703
01:36:06,375 --> 01:36:10,295
Speaker 12: title to rebuild the original garage. It's not on the plans,

1704
01:36:10,335 --> 01:36:14,335
Speaker 12: but the photo definitely shows there was a garage.

1705
01:36:14,375 --> 01:36:16,975
Speaker 3: The other thing and whether or not you can do

1706
01:36:17,015 --> 01:36:19,975
Speaker 3: this in the time that you have to as part

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01:36:20,015 --> 01:36:22,855
Speaker 3: of your due diligence free purchase is to actually go

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01:36:22,935 --> 01:36:25,695
Speaker 3: to council. You know, most councils have a building help desk.

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01:36:26,135 --> 01:36:28,335
Speaker 3: You could sit down and go okay, you know, with

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01:36:28,375 --> 01:36:33,535
Speaker 3: the planet, and their response typically their response.

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01:36:33,575 --> 01:36:36,015
Speaker 12: I'm still waiting for the planner to my care.

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01:36:36,775 --> 01:36:38,695
Speaker 11: But what were you?

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01:36:39,295 --> 01:36:42,375
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm trying to do the right stuff. I guess

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01:36:42,415 --> 01:36:47,135
Speaker 12: I was more phased about that stako on the Have

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01:36:47,255 --> 01:36:48,975
Speaker 12: you ever seen it? Oh my gosh.

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01:36:49,015 --> 01:36:51,055
Speaker 9: Look it's a little bit like.

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01:36:51,015 --> 01:36:54,455
Speaker 3: That sort of Spanish effect, you know that. It's yeah, okay,

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01:36:54,815 --> 01:36:56,495
Speaker 3: people love that. Back in the day, it was the

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01:36:56,535 --> 01:36:57,375
Speaker 3: height of fashion.

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01:37:00,375 --> 01:37:01,415
Speaker 9: Yeah, I can.

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01:37:02,175 --> 01:37:08,855
Speaker 12: You can put up with it on the in the.

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01:37:08,175 --> 01:37:11,455
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, that's right. You got standards to maintain. Hey,

1723
01:37:11,455 --> 01:37:14,215
Speaker 3: good luck with the process. All the very best you, Sarah,

1724
01:37:14,295 --> 01:37:17,295
Speaker 3: You take care all right? All of this then, oh,

1725
01:37:17,375 --> 01:37:19,975
Speaker 3: classic ridy. Oh, it is twenty one almost twenty two

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01:37:20,015 --> 01:37:21,895
Speaker 3: minutes after eight. We'll take a short break. We'll take

1727
01:37:21,935 --> 01:37:24,135
Speaker 3: one more call if you want a Russian, and we'll

1728
01:37:24,135 --> 01:37:26,975
Speaker 3: talk building. Then we're into the garden with redclined pass

1729
01:37:27,095 --> 01:37:29,215
Speaker 3: come eight thirty this morning.

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01:37:29,735 --> 01:37:34,135
Speaker 1: Measured twice, cut once but lady call peat first feeder

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01:37:34,175 --> 01:37:37,775
Speaker 1: wolf gap. The resident builder with light four solar save

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01:37:37,935 --> 01:37:40,935
Speaker 1: power had earned air boids dollars.

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01:37:41,095 --> 01:37:44,255
Speaker 3: News Talks it B, News Talks it B and Rudd

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01:37:44,255 --> 01:37:50,295
Speaker 3: along shortly, Mike, good morning to you. Hello, Mike, hang

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01:37:50,335 --> 01:37:51,215
Speaker 3: on there. How's that?

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01:37:51,375 --> 01:37:51,575
Speaker 10: There?

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01:37:51,615 --> 01:37:55,055
Speaker 8: You go get a Mike, Hi, Peter, thanks for taking

1738
01:37:55,055 --> 01:37:55,375
Speaker 8: my call.

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01:37:55,455 --> 01:37:55,815
Speaker 3: Pleasure.

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01:37:57,255 --> 01:38:00,415
Speaker 8: So I've got a nineteen fifty nine weatherboard house. It's

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01:38:00,455 --> 01:38:04,575
Speaker 8: got gable ends at the ends, and in the triangular

1742
01:38:04,895 --> 01:38:07,535
Speaker 8: part of the gable end there's board and bat Yes.

1743
01:38:08,255 --> 01:38:10,295
Speaker 8: And at the bottom of that board and baton there's

1744
01:38:10,335 --> 01:38:16,015
Speaker 8: a water break sill before the weatherboard underneath it. Yes,

1745
01:38:17,215 --> 01:38:20,975
Speaker 8: the flashing on the water break sill is interesting out.

1746
01:38:20,975 --> 01:38:23,855
Speaker 8: For a while, I've been doing sort of blog jobs

1747
01:38:23,895 --> 01:38:26,975
Speaker 8: on it. While it's just not really working. It's at

1748
01:38:26,975 --> 01:38:31,055
Speaker 8: the point where it needs replacing. But my concern is

1749
01:38:31,095 --> 01:38:34,655
Speaker 8: that it's very difficult to get it out without lifting

1750
01:38:34,735 --> 01:38:37,375
Speaker 8: up the board and bat and above yep. And I'm

1751
01:38:37,375 --> 01:38:38,895
Speaker 8: concerned and I'm not going to be able to do

1752
01:38:38,935 --> 01:38:43,295
Speaker 8: that without breaking them. So it's wondering what I was wondering,

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01:38:43,335 --> 01:38:46,015
Speaker 8: whether I could just rip a line above it and

1754
01:38:46,295 --> 01:38:48,895
Speaker 8: put another water brake sell on top of it and

1755
01:38:48,895 --> 01:38:50,975
Speaker 8: that would help me to get the flashing out. Or

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01:38:51,215 --> 01:38:52,335
Speaker 8: is that not advisable?

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01:38:53,375 --> 01:38:56,775
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see what you're saying. The corrosion on the

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01:38:56,855 --> 01:39:01,055
Speaker 3: existing flashing that's there. Is it like only on the

1759
01:39:01,095 --> 01:39:04,495
Speaker 3: front lip, or is the entire flashing all the way

1760
01:39:04,535 --> 01:39:07,375
Speaker 3: back to let's say where the building line. So typically

1761
01:39:07,735 --> 01:39:11,055
Speaker 3: this type of flashing, it comes down the building line,

1762
01:39:11,455 --> 01:39:14,775
Speaker 3: extends over the top of the weatherboards and then goes

1763
01:39:14,815 --> 01:39:17,975
Speaker 3: down again. And then they would have put the weather

1764
01:39:18,015 --> 01:39:19,895
Speaker 3: boards on, put the flashing on, put the board and

1765
01:39:19,935 --> 01:39:21,895
Speaker 3: baton above it, right, So there's a part of it

1766
01:39:21,935 --> 01:39:24,615
Speaker 3: that goes up behind the board and baton, which, like

1767
01:39:24,695 --> 01:39:26,855
Speaker 3: you say, without taking the board and baton off or

1768
01:39:26,855 --> 01:39:30,455
Speaker 3: prying them forward, is almost impossible to remove.

1769
01:39:32,615 --> 01:39:38,055
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's actually, it's quite it's quite common. It's not

1770
01:39:38,175 --> 01:39:40,095
Speaker 8: just on the front with that flashing. It's kind of

1771
01:39:40,135 --> 01:39:42,975
Speaker 8: sitting on the top that would you understand what I

1772
01:39:42,975 --> 01:39:45,295
Speaker 8: mean by a water brake sill. It's like a window

1773
01:39:45,375 --> 01:39:47,175
Speaker 8: sill that they've got at the bottom of the board

1774
01:39:47,215 --> 01:39:47,615
Speaker 8: and battern.

1775
01:39:47,855 --> 01:39:48,735
Speaker 3: Yes, it sort of.

1776
01:39:48,975 --> 01:39:51,815
Speaker 8: It overhangs the weatherboard underneath it.

1777
01:39:52,015 --> 01:39:54,895
Speaker 3: So is there actually a metal flashing over it at

1778
01:39:54,895 --> 01:39:57,135
Speaker 3: all or is it just the timber that's acting as

1779
01:39:57,175 --> 01:39:57,735
Speaker 3: the flashing.

1780
01:39:58,655 --> 01:40:02,575
Speaker 8: No, there is a metal flashing over the brake cell, right,

1781
01:40:03,055 --> 01:40:04,495
Speaker 8: and that's what's rusted out.

1782
01:40:04,535 --> 01:40:07,615
Speaker 3: And it's that flashing that's rusted out. And again, is

1783
01:40:07,655 --> 01:40:09,815
Speaker 3: that rusted all the way back, let's say, to the

1784
01:40:09,935 --> 01:40:12,255
Speaker 3: upstand at the back, or is it just kind of

1785
01:40:12,255 --> 01:40:13,215
Speaker 3: on the front edge.

1786
01:40:14,215 --> 01:40:17,295
Speaker 8: Yeah, No, it's rusted to where it goes vertical up

1787
01:40:17,295 --> 01:40:18,095
Speaker 8: and behind the board and.

1788
01:40:18,135 --> 01:40:19,535
Speaker 9: Bat and right.

1789
01:40:21,175 --> 01:40:28,415
Speaker 3: H The reason I was sort of asking so many

1790
01:40:28,495 --> 01:40:32,375
Speaker 3: questions about how corroded it is is, you know, depending

1791
01:40:32,455 --> 01:40:35,975
Speaker 3: on how exposed the area is, what the wind situation is,

1792
01:40:36,135 --> 01:40:40,455
Speaker 3: what this whether there's an eve or an overhang, et cetera.

1793
01:40:40,655 --> 01:40:43,295
Speaker 3: Is that you know, if it's relatively low risk right

1794
01:40:43,895 --> 01:40:47,455
Speaker 3: in terms of weather being driven in there, then you

1795
01:40:47,575 --> 01:40:51,375
Speaker 3: could just cut the corroded part of the flashing off,

1796
01:40:51,695 --> 01:40:57,175
Speaker 3: leaving the upstand and that first sloping section intact and

1797
01:40:57,255 --> 01:41:03,495
Speaker 3: sliding a new flashing underneath it. Now, it's not perfect,

1798
01:41:03,695 --> 01:41:06,295
Speaker 3: but it you know, it's enough to be a practic

1799
01:41:06,455 --> 01:41:09,375
Speaker 3: called repair without having to pull all of the batin

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01:41:09,455 --> 01:41:13,855
Speaker 3: and board off. Have you trotted?

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01:41:15,655 --> 01:41:16,015
Speaker 8: Okay?

1802
01:41:16,135 --> 01:41:23,495
Speaker 3: All right, yeah, no, that's fair enough. You know, sometimes,

1803
01:41:23,615 --> 01:41:27,695
Speaker 3: depending on the size of the gable, it might just

1804
01:41:27,855 --> 01:41:31,855
Speaker 3: be like with these jobs, sometimes you spend a lot

1805
01:41:31,855 --> 01:41:33,495
Speaker 3: of time trying to think of a quick way of

1806
01:41:33,535 --> 01:41:35,615
Speaker 3: doing it, and then you just go, if I just

1807
01:41:35,655 --> 01:41:38,335
Speaker 3: pulled the batinum board off and replaced it and did

1808
01:41:38,375 --> 01:41:40,735
Speaker 3: the flashing, I could possibly do that in the same

1809
01:41:40,775 --> 01:41:42,895
Speaker 3: amount of time as it takes me to fart around

1810
01:41:43,175 --> 01:41:45,255
Speaker 3: trying to think of a way of doing it without

1811
01:41:45,255 --> 01:41:46,295
Speaker 3: having to take them off.

1812
01:41:47,215 --> 01:41:47,415
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1813
01:41:47,895 --> 01:41:52,415
Speaker 8: Sometimes I've got a build a guy who has given

1814
01:41:52,455 --> 01:41:54,655
Speaker 8: me that same advice. I just wondered if there was

1815
01:41:55,095 --> 01:41:56,975
Speaker 8: a sneaky way that I could do it with it.

1816
01:41:57,335 --> 01:42:00,415
Speaker 3: And look, sometimes there is a sneaky way, or you know,

1817
01:42:00,735 --> 01:42:04,175
Speaker 3: a deep dark secret that's only shared among the initiated

1818
01:42:04,575 --> 01:42:06,415
Speaker 3: as to how to do these things. But every now

1819
01:42:06,455 --> 01:42:08,895
Speaker 3: and then it's just actually, I'm just going to pop

1820
01:42:08,975 --> 01:42:11,735
Speaker 3: those boards off. I might be able to reuse half

1821
01:42:11,775 --> 01:42:13,975
Speaker 3: of them, might be able to put some building paper on.

1822
01:42:14,015 --> 01:42:15,535
Speaker 3: At the same time, I might be able to get

1823
01:42:15,535 --> 01:42:18,135
Speaker 3: some insulation into an unexpected area, that sort of thing.

1824
01:42:18,335 --> 01:42:20,215
Speaker 3: And then I'm going to reinstate it, you know. And

1825
01:42:20,255 --> 01:42:23,575
Speaker 3: if it's a gable end, does the gable extend over

1826
01:42:23,615 --> 01:42:25,455
Speaker 3: the entire width of the building or is it just

1827
01:42:26,015 --> 01:42:28,015
Speaker 3: a portion of the front of the building. Like what

1828
01:42:28,055 --> 01:42:29,375
Speaker 3: would the width of the gable be.

1829
01:42:32,015 --> 01:42:36,615
Speaker 8: Maybe it's got two bedrooms, two bedrooms, why they small bedrooms?

1830
01:42:36,615 --> 01:42:38,215
Speaker 8: But okay, probably six meters.

1831
01:42:38,975 --> 01:42:40,895
Speaker 3: Ah okay, all right, that's quite a bit of work.

1832
01:42:41,375 --> 01:42:44,295
Speaker 3: I mean. The other thing to do along, just very quickly,

1833
01:42:44,375 --> 01:42:46,415
Speaker 3: along the lines of what you were talking about initially,

1834
01:42:46,575 --> 01:42:50,615
Speaker 3: is to, let's say, come up seventy five millimeters right

1835
01:42:51,095 --> 01:42:54,335
Speaker 3: from where the junction is between the board and batten

1836
01:42:54,575 --> 01:43:00,535
Speaker 3: and your timber break and cut that, ideally at a

1837
01:43:00,535 --> 01:43:03,775
Speaker 3: fifteen degree angle, so you're cutting the undercutting the boards,

1838
01:43:04,175 --> 01:43:07,215
Speaker 3: cut them off all the way along. Then you might

1839
01:43:07,215 --> 01:43:10,535
Speaker 3: be able to find that with a multi tool you

1840
01:43:10,535 --> 01:43:13,295
Speaker 3: can cut through any nails that might be there, and

1841
01:43:13,415 --> 01:43:16,255
Speaker 3: that will give you enough space to slide a new

1842
01:43:16,335 --> 01:43:19,055
Speaker 3: flashing up as far up as you can possibly go

1843
01:43:19,575 --> 01:43:21,495
Speaker 3: and then what you'll see is, instead of a neat

1844
01:43:21,695 --> 01:43:25,095
Speaker 3: junction or a closed junction between the board and baton

1845
01:43:25,175 --> 01:43:27,935
Speaker 3: and the top of your weather brake seal, you'll have

1846
01:43:27,975 --> 01:43:30,255
Speaker 3: a fifty mil up stand there. But you will be

1847
01:43:30,255 --> 01:43:32,495
Speaker 3: able to get a flashing in there. But you know,

1848
01:43:32,575 --> 01:43:34,775
Speaker 3: don't try and cut twenty mil off. That won't work.

1849
01:43:34,815 --> 01:43:36,935
Speaker 3: You'll have to cut at least forty or fifty mili off.

1850
01:43:38,055 --> 01:43:38,295
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1851
01:43:38,415 --> 01:43:44,095
Speaker 3: Yeah, So there's a couple of options there. That's all

1852
01:43:44,095 --> 01:43:46,815
Speaker 3: the very best, Take care, all the best. Right, let's

1853
01:43:46,855 --> 01:43:49,575
Speaker 3: jump into the garden. Red climb past is available. If

1854
01:43:49,615 --> 01:43:52,375
Speaker 3: you'd like any question or you want answers on any

1855
01:43:52,415 --> 01:43:55,775
Speaker 3: gardening entomological questions. It is available the number to call

1856
01:43:56,055 --> 01:43:57,255
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten.

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01:43:57,175 --> 01:44:01,735
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