1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Now the Reserve Bank, speaking of which it's going to 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: meet for the last time this seear next week to 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: review the official cash rate, and most economists are now 4 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: picking a cut of fifty basis points. Liam dan As 5 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: The Herald's Business editor at large ALM get a Heather 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: seventy five basis points off the cards. 7 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: Now, A, it does seem to be. Yeah, like I 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: think we mentioned last week, you know, I could see 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: some logic for getting down to where we're going fast, 10 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: but I think that the consensus is that the economy, 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: just some of some of the economic data that's coming 12 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: in the past three or four weeks, at unemployment not 13 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: being quite as bad as expected, things suggest that fifty, 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: you know, is sort of a big cat. Really, seventy 15 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: five is slightly panic cut, and so you know, you 16 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: wouldn't want to send a message that we're panicking or 17 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: that there was a crisis. So that's the odds. But 18 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: it is the big monetary policy statement, this one. So 19 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 2: this is the one where we get all the documents 20 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: in the forecast. So there'll be actually a lot of 21 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: interest in you know, because okay, we know that we're 22 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: going to cut down to four point twenty five next 23 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: Where are we going next year? How low is this 24 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: going to end up? Those are the things that we're 25 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: going to be looking for, I guess. So you know, 26 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: as much as you've had some views on this in 27 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: the past, as much as we can trust trust the 28 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: Reserve banks forecast for where they're going, I guess is 29 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:16,919 Speaker 2: the issue. 30 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: The thing is, though, Liam, I mean, the employment numbers 31 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: seem to be holding up quite well, but then you 32 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: listen to Treasury and they are revising what's going to 33 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: happen with the government's fiscal situation, and it's like way 34 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: worse than they thought, so they've got to take that 35 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: into account as well. 36 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that looked pretty rough, and I mean activity isn't 37 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: expected to pick up that fast. That's the trouble. It's 38 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: you know, this survived to twenty five thing. Well, A 39 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: and Z had some quarterly forecasts out earlier in the week, 40 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: and you know they're talking about the recovery rarely is 41 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: this from the second half of twenty twenty five, And 42 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: it might be all up only about one point one 43 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: percent growth next year, which is pretty anemic. I mean, 44 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: you know, sure it's good to have growth. We've had 45 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: had basically a year of recess. But you know, if 46 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: you're expecting an economic boom coming, you're going to be disappointed. 47 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 2: So it doesn't you know, there therefore casts that there 48 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: are some good things happening. There's some some strong dairy 49 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: prices and all that sort of stuff, but that takes 50 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: a while to get through the economy, so you know, 51 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: it's not doesn't all suddenly come right after the summer, 52 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: and that of course, as Treasury will be, they're sort 53 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 2: of prepping us, i think, for the HAIFU for the 54 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: half year accounts with a speech basically letting us know 55 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: that it's not booming, and that doesn't it means the 56 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: text takes not going to be fantastic and so yeah, 57 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: you've got a factor all that in. But yeah, I 58 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 2: think we're going to see them cut fifty and maybe 59 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: suggest fifty again in February and then down to maybe 60 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: three point five three point twenty five as a sort 61 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: of baseline. 62 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: How good, Liam, Thank you appreciate it, Liam Dan, the 63 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 1: Herald's Business editor at lunch. For more from Heather Duplessy 64 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: Allen Drive, listen live to news talks. 65 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 66 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio,