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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine

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Speaker 1: big names, the big issues, the big controversies and the

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Speaker 1: big conversations. It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vine

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Speaker 2: Hello, kyo, a good afternoon. Welcome and this is the

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Speaker 2: Saturday edition of Weekend Sport on News Talk s ed B.

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Speaker 2: December fourteenth, Happy birthday, Michael Owen.

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Speaker 3: Back them now to Owen and here's another Owen run.

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Speaker 2: Who's gonna worry them again? It's a great run by

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Speaker 2: Michael Owen. How do you won't vision up? It's a

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Speaker 2: wonderful gu nineteen ninety eight will live long in the

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Speaker 2: memory of England football fans. Hope Michael Owen's having a

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Speaker 2: good birthday. I'm Jason Pintrow. Producers, Andy McDonald. We're here

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Speaker 2: talking sport until three. Now what are we the fourteenth?

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Speaker 2: Eleven days till Christmas, A couple of weekends out. I

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Speaker 2: know there will be some of you who have, against

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Speaker 2: your will, gone out into the madness that is Christmas

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Speaker 2: shopping today. Maybe you're with somebody who is a bit

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Speaker 2: want to sit in the car. Look, we are here

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Speaker 2: the car or viaur iHeartRadio on your mobile, just listening

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Speaker 2: to us. And if it is in fact you who

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Speaker 2: is more the junior partner in the shopping partnership, then look,

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Speaker 2: as I say, we're here for you. The one hundred

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Speaker 2: Southy is underway in Hamilton. We're not going to see

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Speaker 2: Tim Southey for a while, which is a good thing

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Speaker 2: sent in by England. New Zealand have negotiated safely the

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Speaker 2: first hour and ten minutes fifty four without loss, fifty

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Speaker 2: four without loss. Tom Latham's there on eighteen, Will Young

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Speaker 2: carrying on the form in India, which really should have

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Speaker 2: have been four, three, eighteen and nine fifty four without losses.

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Speaker 2: Very very good. We will keep you up to date

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Speaker 2: right across the afternoon. Tim Soudie, though, as I say,

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Speaker 2: BJ Watling had perhaps the best view of Tim Soudy

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Speaker 2: your tributes to Tim Southey as well. Yes, it's been

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Speaker 2: keen to hear your thoughts on Tim Soudy's career this

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Speaker 2: our man on site Andrew Alderson, who no doubt will

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Speaker 2: be enjoying this rather more, rather more impressive start from

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Speaker 2: New Zealand fifty four without loss. After one o'clock. Speaking

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Speaker 2: of impressive, Wallace Satiti is on the show. What a

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Speaker 2: he reflect on twenty twenty four? Wallace Atiti with us

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Speaker 2: Other matters around today. The Wellington Phoenix Men take on

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Speaker 2: He's going to pop in for a chant. Adam Peacock

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Speaker 2: Tasman as well live sport. While we're on the air,

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Speaker 2: well the Test in Hamilton obviously, but also the third

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the curtain about to come down on one of

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Speaker 2: Six one of those were alongside Tim Soudy.

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Speaker 2: Can you remember the first time you met or were

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the first time I saw Timmy was

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think he's been a.

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Speaker 6: Pretty consistent performer over I don't know how many years,

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Speaker 7: But apart from that.

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Speaker 2: we know how pot to partnership, the Saudi Bolt partnership was.

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Speaker 2: What made it so effective From your point.

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Speaker 2: Very very nice contribution. At what age was that that

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Speaker 2: I love it, Chris, I love it. Hey regards to you,

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Speaker 2: his public persona Tim Soudi has always been quite straight laced.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's there's people in a team and you think, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he'll be he'd be a joker. And I look at

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Speaker 2: the current team and you think someone like Glenn Phillips.

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Speaker 2: You land on him and you say, yeah, Glen Phillips

437
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Speaker 2: will be a bit of a pest around the changing room.

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Speaker 2: He'd be a practical joker of the pack. He'd be

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Speaker 2: the one who you know, who you have to watch

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Speaker 2: out for. Not so much Tim Southy, and I wonder

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Speaker 2: when he became captain whether that was something that he

442
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Speaker 2: had to, you know, had to put off to one side.

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Speaker 2: You you have to act slightly differently, don't you around

444
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Speaker 2: your team when you're the captain, particularly in cricket, when

445
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Speaker 2: you're selecting the team as well. Big job of the

446
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Speaker 2: captain is to select the team. So you can't get

447
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Speaker 2: too close or too maighty, can you with with your teammates.

448
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Speaker 2: But New Zealand continue to go along pretty nicely in

449
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Speaker 2: Tim Southey's farewell Tests seventy six without loss, as we've

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Speaker 2: had an hour and thirty five minutes in the first session.

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Speaker 2: Will Young, who of course has been controversially in some

452
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Speaker 2: quarters overlooked for much of this series, as making a

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Speaker 2: fairly good fist of things. He's out there on twenty nine,

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Speaker 2: not out, continuing on his excellent form of course in

455
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Speaker 2: the Indian Test series which saw him win Man of

456
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Speaker 2: the Series hon as. Tom Latham looking good there unbeaten

457
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Speaker 2: on thirty two. Be good to see Tom Latham get

458
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Speaker 2: a big score as well, if you could to see

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Speaker 2: anybody get a big score in this in this Test series,

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Speaker 2: given what's happened so far as another one flies down

461
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Speaker 2: to the boundary, this one off the bat of Will

462
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Speaker 2: Young eighty without loss. This is this is night and day,

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Speaker 2: isn't it? From the first week at partnerships we've had

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Speaker 2: so far. I mentioned in the top of the show

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Speaker 2: four and three in christ Church eighteen and nine Wellington.

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Speaker 2: So once that thirty four runs all up for the

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Speaker 2: first wicket across the four first wicket partnership so far,

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Speaker 2: and we're up to eighty without loss in this one alone.

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Speaker 2: So with that, wanting to get too carried away, it

470
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Speaker 2: is a very good start. New Zealand have only lost

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Speaker 2: twice in a home series three nil. That happened against

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Speaker 2: Australia in nineteen ninety nine two thousand and again well

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Speaker 2: previously to that against England all the way back in

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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty two sixty three, So only twice have we

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Speaker 2: lost a home series three nil, and of course we

476
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Speaker 2: lost to Australia two nil earlier this year. So if

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Speaker 2: we were to lose this game, it would be the

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Speaker 2: first time that we've lost five Test matches in a

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Speaker 2: row since the summer of nineteen fifty five fifty six.

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Speaker 2: I was going back a long way I've picked a

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Speaker 2: good venue though to try and break that, because we

482
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Speaker 2: haven't lost a Test at Seddon Park since South Africa

483
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Speaker 2: beat us by nine wickets there in twenty twelve. That

484
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Speaker 2: was the last time we lost a Test at Seddon Park,

485
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Speaker 2: and England have played two Test matches in Hamilton. There

486
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Speaker 2: was a high scoring draw in twenty nineteen and a

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Speaker 2: loss by one hundred and eighty nine runs back in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. So it's been a pretty happy

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Speaker 2: hunting ground Seddon Park under the watchful eye of Carl Johnson,

490
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Speaker 2: good friend of the show, the groundsman there, the turf curator.

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Speaker 2: Not exactly sure what his official title is, but looks

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Speaker 2: like he's come up with another belter eighty four without loss.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. Just updating you on some domestic cricket as well,

494
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Speaker 2: and of course we will also keep you up to

495
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Speaker 2: date with the other Test match which starts today, this

496
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Speaker 2: one across the Tasman at the Gabbett and Brisbane Third

497
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Speaker 2: Test between Australia and India. That series tied up at

498
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Speaker 2: won all. There's three halle Burton Johnston Shield games going

499
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Speaker 2: on at the moment. These are the fifty over matches

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Speaker 2: in our domestic women's competition. Canterbury won the tass in

501
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Speaker 2: New Plymouth and sent the Central Hines into bat ninety

502
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Speaker 2: eight for five in the thirty second over. In Dunedin,

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Speaker 2: Otago won the toss and sent Northern Districts in there

504
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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty seven for three after thirty five overs.

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Speaker 2: And Wellington against Auckland at Eden Parks out of Oval.

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Speaker 2: Auckland won the toss sent Wellington in there one hundred

507
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Speaker 2: and ten for five in the thirtieth over. Amelia Kerr

508
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Speaker 2: is playing for Wellington today and they're probably quite pleased

509
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Speaker 2: that she's there. She's unbeaten on thirty nine in a

510
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Speaker 2: score of one hundred and thirteen for five, so merely

511
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Speaker 2: Kerr certainly propping things up for the Wellington Blaze in

512
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Speaker 2: their game against the Auckland Hearts. Will again keep you

513
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Speaker 2: right up to date with all of those scores. Twenty

514
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Speaker 2: two away from one as we talk cricket, oh eight

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Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty pick up the phone. There's often

516
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Speaker 2: not a spare line to be seen on Saturday afternoons

517
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Speaker 2: or Sunday afternoons when we talk sport on weekend sport

518
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Speaker 2: there is one there for you now if you'd like

519
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Speaker 2: to jump on eight hundred eighty ten eighty before one

520
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Speaker 2: o'clock will also get you to Hamilton. Ow Man, there

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Speaker 2: is Andrew Ordison. He can give us a close up

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Speaker 2: view of this first session back in a second weekend Sport.

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Speaker 1: Don't get caught off nine eight hundred eighty eighty weekends

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Speaker 1: for us with Jason Paine and GJ. Gardnerhove's New Zealand's

525
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Speaker 1: most Trusted home Builder News Talks ENV.

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Speaker 2: News Talks ab just on eighteen away from one. We'll

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Speaker 2: get you to Hamilton very shortly. In fact, we can

528
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Speaker 2: get the Hamilton right now. Andrew Ordison is covering the

529
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Speaker 2: game for us. Read him at enziherld dot co dot

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Speaker 2: zed orders without wanting to jinx anything eighty four without loss,

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Speaker 2: eighteen minutes to go until lunch.

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Speaker 11: This is looking all right, certainly is piny and I

533
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Speaker 11: think it's well well Deserver and he will Youngingt is

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Speaker 11: placed in the team is delivering accordingly currently thirty seven

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Speaker 11: not out and Tom Latham thirty two.

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Speaker 7: But it really better.

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Speaker 11: Well, the pitch does look like it's it's pretty good

538
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Speaker 11: for betting early to be honest with Piney and I

539
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Speaker 11: think really the English attack have been just too loose

540
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Speaker 11: on occasion, too many overpitched liveries which Latham and Young

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Speaker 11: have be able to drive, and there's been a bit

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Speaker 11: too much with outside of Stump in particular, Young Bego

543
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Speaker 11: was slashing a few and get some relatively easy runs.

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Speaker 11: So full crowd in here looking to this building at

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Speaker 11: Sedon Park, full swing and a pretty good day here finally,

546
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Speaker 11: to be honest, and he was slightly overcast, but it's

547
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Speaker 11: starting to find up good.

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Speaker 2: To hear now. Of course this is off the back

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Speaker 2: of England winning the toss and sending New Zealand into bats.

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Speaker 2: So have they misread the pitch here or are they

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Speaker 2: just as you've just outlined, they're not bowling very well.

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Speaker 11: I think it's pretty a bit of both. Tom Layton

553
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Speaker 11: didn't look disappointed in the slightest to be batting actually

554
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Speaker 11: get that Cetain part today it's not as green as

555
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Speaker 11: it's certainly seen it in the past, and I think

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Speaker 11: that that's probably played into their minds as well, and

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Speaker 11: just being able to have that settled build up and

558
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Speaker 11: being able to go on the pads and knowing I've

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Speaker 11: done with the dead other plays into us at all

560
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Speaker 11: of that. Maybe some of the pressure is off from

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Speaker 11: both sides, but certainly New Zealand dominating earlier. It's we said,

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Speaker 11: you know, eighty five with our lost late in thirty two,

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Speaker 11: young thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: So Mitchell Centner into the eleven for Nathan Smith. No

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Speaker 2: surprises there that they've gone with the three seamers and

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Speaker 2: brought Mitchell Santner in with his spin bowling.

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Speaker 11: No, I think that's probably playing into their hands touram

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Speaker 11: in terms of New Zealand batting first is that Nuggie

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Speaker 11: to bowl fourth on this pitch and I think that

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Speaker 11: having center in the lineup, they just think it's going

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Speaker 11: to add to there. I guess options there with the

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Speaker 11: ball and knowing that has turned of lad at Sedon Park,

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Speaker 11: it hasn't turned that much this season though there only

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Speaker 11: been I think two wickets at first class level and

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Speaker 11: Plunket Shield. They were taken by spin. But nonetheless they

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Speaker 11: think Satin's going to give them that option. And it's

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Speaker 11: pretty much alike for like, if you think that Smith's

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Speaker 11: the pace bowling all around, Santa is the spinning all around it.

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Speaker 11: Although on merit I mean you had to make a

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Speaker 11: case for Nathan Smith preps staying in the team, maybe

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Speaker 11: the expense of Tim Soudi, but not when one end

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Speaker 11: of the ground is named of Tim Soudi end today

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Speaker 11: Piney for his final Test match.

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Speaker 2: Well, who knows, maybe in a deckad or so that

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Speaker 2: we are Nathan Smith and at the base in reserve

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Speaker 2: if he goes on to do do was wonderfully well

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Speaker 2: in Test crickets. Tim Saudi has here apart from obviously

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Speaker 2: one end being renamed for this Test match after Tim Saudi,

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Speaker 2: other sort of ceremonial touches to his final Test match.

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Speaker 2: Have there been any of those or are they likely

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Speaker 2: to come at the end of the end of the Test.

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Speaker 11: No, they have been and Tom Lathan was a pace

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Speaker 11: to point out Yester they were going to celebrate this

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Speaker 11: his final Test And honestly, I think he's in the

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Speaker 11: right really, I mean, he's been such a great seven

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Speaker 11: of New Zealand cricket for so many sixteen years in fact,

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Speaker 11: and he's been right at the heart of what we

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Speaker 11: know of as the Golden Era. And so yeah, we've

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Speaker 11: had and his daughter went out with him for the

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Speaker 11: anthems etc. And the team was supportive there as well,

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Speaker 11: and just looked like there's a lot of people I

602
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Speaker 11: just was watching from the media box leading into the

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Speaker 11: game and just a lot of people coming up to

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Speaker 11: offer their well which is both from both teams in fact,

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Speaker 11: from and supporters and other staff alike, and just coming

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Speaker 11: up and be able.

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Speaker 7: To offer those thoughts as that would have.

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Speaker 11: Been a monumental will added to a monumental career across

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Speaker 11: those sixteen years.

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Speaker 2: Pinting absolutely and I look at that World Test Championship

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Speaker 2: winning side from twenty twenty one and with Soudi now

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Speaker 2: going in this current team. I know Devin Conway is

613
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Speaker 2: not finished yet, but Tom Latham, Caine Williamson and I

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Speaker 2: think that's it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's started to dissipate, hasn't it this whole I

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Speaker 11: mean that's natural. I mean that's still what are we

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Speaker 11: talking just what three years ago now more than three

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Speaker 11: years that did be that great and in New Zealand

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Speaker 11: had to do it. I mean I remember the last

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Speaker 11: time when we talk about great Test matches. Well, in

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Speaker 11: the addition to that World Test Championship, when the one

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Speaker 11: that's at the base in reserve the win by one

623
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Speaker 11: run following on I think during that test every single

624
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Speaker 11: New Zealander at eleven was aged over thirty. So Gary

625
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Speaker 11: Stead as a coach and now Tom Latham is the captain.

626
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Speaker 11: They tasked with rebuilding the side, and they've done so

627
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Speaker 11: by adding the likes of a Willow Raw Nathan Smith,

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Speaker 11: dis gradually developing players of the time that they're going

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Speaker 11: to have to do to keep it going on.

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Speaker 2: And you look at it and you think, okay, moving forward,

631
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Speaker 2: if we've got a bowling attack with the likes of

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Speaker 2: Henry O'Rourke, Smith, Ben Sears, Kyle Jamison, if he can

633
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Speaker 2: get fit, there's some good raw materials there aren't there orders.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, I think the bowling is probably reasonably well served actually,

635
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Speaker 11: and we've seen also just recently with the spin ranks,

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Speaker 11: I mean, and then Phillips and Mitchell Sander and AJS

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Speaker 11: Battel who's obviously getting on a bit now but delivering

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Speaker 11: in India for that historic test factory. I think probably

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Speaker 11: the batting is probably where they need to develop, maybe

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Speaker 11: some of those players in the lawer Rings the Russian

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Speaker 11: revenge as we need another player who they've developed in

642
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Speaker 11: recent times, but probably one or two others who can

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Speaker 11: play the longer form would be ideal. So that's probably

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Speaker 11: an area to work on in that regard. And even

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Speaker 11: with keeping him, Mitch Haysey need to come into the ranks.

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Speaker 11: There as a potential to maybe take over the gloves

647
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Speaker 11: and there's this elements there that they're going to have

648
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Speaker 11: to keep developing over a period of time to try

649
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Speaker 11: and stay in New Zealand's place in the top echelons

650
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Speaker 11: off test cricket.

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Speaker 2: All right, and just before you go to file your

652
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Speaker 2: lunchtime report, it's such a shame, isn't it that this

653
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Speaker 2: is the last test cricket of the home summer. It's

654
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Speaker 2: the fourteenth of December and we're not going to see

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Speaker 2: any more red ball cricket at home this summer.

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Speaker 11: That's right, Ponie, And I think it's just one of

657
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Speaker 11: those elements. It's a disappointing part of that world or

658
00:35:30,587 --> 00:35:33,467
Speaker 11: you know the FTP, the Future Tourist Program that New

659
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Speaker 11: Zealand are going to be without tests until and nothing.

660
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Speaker 11: You can point to Zimbabwe in July, but after that

661
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Speaker 11: it's the Western He's in November, so there's going to

662
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Speaker 11: be buggerall tests really across that period and it's hampered

663
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Speaker 11: by the fact there's a champions trophy which has been

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Speaker 11: given a lot of the importance, if you like, in

665
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Speaker 11: February one day tournament in Pakistan. But then then I

666
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Speaker 11: guess it's a money spinner for the ICC. But you know,

667
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Speaker 11: for a country on New Zealand has had sum much

668
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Speaker 11: success of late in the Test game with the World

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Speaker 11: Test Championship and beyond. Yes, it's hardly sustaining, is it.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not. And crucially how the lunch has been

671
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Speaker 2: in christ Church and Wellington? And what do you expect

672
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Speaker 2: in Hamilton from the from the caterers.

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Speaker 11: Well, I'm not sure he is yet, but you know,

674
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Speaker 11: certainly have had enough lunch.

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Speaker 7: It's given that.

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Speaker 11: You know, one game we to four days, one day,

677
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Speaker 11: one game we do three. You feel that short chase

678
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Speaker 11: on there front to be perfectly freak.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's hope you get all five days in Hamilton's a.

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Speaker 11: Nice chocolate brownie to start at Hamilton. Put it that way,

681
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Speaker 11: so you know it augurs.

682
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Speaker 2: Well, wonderful stuff, mate, you know that's a very good start. Look,

683
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Speaker 2: you stay well for the next couple of hours. We'll

684
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Speaker 2: check him with you again before three o'clock. If that

685
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Speaker 2: works with your schedule of of cricket writing, observing and

686
00:36:49,747 --> 00:36:51,147
Speaker 2: the odd brownie as well.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'll repullback on the grazing front, surely.

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Speaker 2: I look forward to that mate. Indeed, Andrew Ortison, our

689
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Speaker 2: man in Hamilton. Read him at in zidherld dot co

690
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Speaker 2: dot in zed. Hear him here on z B of course. Yeah,

691
00:37:05,987 --> 00:37:08,067
Speaker 2: right up to date with everything that's happening in Hamilton,

692
00:37:08,107 --> 00:37:10,307
Speaker 2: which is all good stuff at the moment as far

693
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Speaker 2: as New Zealand is concerned. A very very promising start

694
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Speaker 2: to this particular Test match. Eighty five without loss. Eighty

695
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Speaker 2: five without loss, this after New Zealand were inserted by England,

696
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Speaker 2: who won the toss just over two hours ago, and said, look,

697
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Speaker 2: we'll have a bowl. We'll try and make some early

698
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Speaker 2: in roads, take advantage of what grass there is on

699
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Speaker 2: this wicket and try and knock the top off New Zealand. Well,

700
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Speaker 2: the top of New Zealand made of much sterner stuff

701
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Speaker 2: in this Test match. Will Young thirty eight not out,

702
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Speaker 2: Tom Latham thirty three not out New Zealand eighty six

703
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Speaker 2: without loss. Now with ten minutes to go until lunch

704
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Speaker 2: on the first day of this Third Test at Hamilton.

705
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Speaker 2: We're back in a second. News Talk s head B

706
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Speaker 2: nine and a half away from one.

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Speaker 1: Now when it's down to the line, you make a

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Speaker 1: call on ten eighty Weekends fort with Jason Pine News

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Speaker 1: Talk SADB.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed six away from one on text. Can we

711
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Speaker 2: have coverage of the iron Man World Champs and Tupaul

712
00:38:08,547 --> 00:38:11,067
Speaker 2: please this weekend, including the keywiks. Yes we can. We've

713
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Speaker 2: been featuring that right across the morning on our sports

714
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Speaker 2: news and we'll continue too. It's the women's race today,

715
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Speaker 2: the men's race tomorrow, of course. I can tell you

716
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Speaker 2: though before we get to the sports news. Just for

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Speaker 2: an update, American Taylor Nib has won the women's race

718
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Speaker 2: at the iron Man seventy point three World Champs. She

719
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Speaker 2: had a lead of almost five minutes on the bike.

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Speaker 2: Cat Matthews of England chased her heart on the run,

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Speaker 2: but it was Taylor Nib the American, who held on

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Speaker 2: to win by one minute and fifteen seconds. There were

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Speaker 2: three or rather two Swiss athletes in the top five

724
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Speaker 2: and three Australians in the top ten. Cat Matthews has

725
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Speaker 2: won the inaugural Pro Series title by virtue of finishing

726
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Speaker 2: second in this race, and the best of the Kiwis

727
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Speaker 2: was New Zealand's Hannah Berry, jumping three places in the

728
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Speaker 2: pro series. She finishes an impressive fourteenth overall. That's in

729
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Speaker 2: the series. Now I'm just going to check on where

730
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Speaker 2: she finished in the race, fourteenth, fourteenth overall, So Hannah

731
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Speaker 2: Bury the best of the kiwi's overall in fourteenth place.

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Speaker 2: That's the iron Man seventy point three Women's World Championship

733
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Speaker 2: in top all the men's races tomorrow. And one of

734
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Speaker 2: the big features of this, of course, apart from Brayden

735
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Speaker 2: Curry being there we know all about him and iron Man,

736
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Speaker 2: is Hayden Wild is taking part in this race. We're

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Speaker 2: used to seeing Hayden Wild and the Olympics of course,

738
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Speaker 2: and in that kind of short course triathlon landscape, but

739
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Speaker 2: with a move perhaps a look to the future as

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Speaker 2: to how his career is going to play out. He

741
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Speaker 2: actually said when we spoke to Hayden Wild not long ago,

742
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Speaker 2: that he was going to spend the next couple of

743
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Speaker 2: years doing the longer distances before recalibrating and aiming towards

744
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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Olympics in twenty twenty eight. So anyway,

745
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Speaker 2: Hayden Wild's in the race tomorrow. Be very interesting to

746
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Speaker 2: see how he goes against a top quality field in

747
00:39:58,987 --> 00:40:03,627
Speaker 2: the iron Man seventy point three men's race tomorrow in Topaul.

748
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Speaker 2: We will certainly keep you right up to date across

749
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Speaker 2: the day. As I say, Sports News will try and

750
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Speaker 2: get someone on the ground in Toport tomorrow to give

751
00:40:09,587 --> 00:40:11,307
Speaker 2: us a rap of the weekend. It's always a great event,

752
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Speaker 2: hundreds and hundreds of people turning up to watch. It's

753
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Speaker 2: a really good spectator event. In fact, I think I

754
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Speaker 2: heard the winner, Taylor Nibs, say that when she was

755
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Speaker 2: on the run, there was hardly a stride of the

756
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Speaker 2: run where there weren't people cheering her on. So I

757
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Speaker 2: think it's absolutely fantastic. Good part of the country though,

758
00:40:29,707 --> 00:40:31,907
Speaker 2: wasn't it topul really good part of the country? Four

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Speaker 2: to one ninety one without last, New Zealand simply have

760
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Speaker 2: to negotiate the next four minutes and they'll get to

761
00:40:36,667 --> 00:40:39,787
Speaker 2: lunch in a very very strong position with Tom Latham

762
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Speaker 2: and Will Young together lath than thirty four, Young forty two.

763
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Speaker 2: This after being sent into bat on the first morning

764
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Speaker 2: of the third Test in Hamilton. It's all going well

765
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Speaker 2: for New Zealand a rare session win in this three

766
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Speaker 2: match series. After one o'clock we'll obviously be at lunch

767
00:40:56,467 --> 00:40:57,867
Speaker 2: at the cricket, but we'll keep you up todate what's

768
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Speaker 2: happening at the Gabba. The toss about to be made

769
00:41:00,227 --> 00:41:03,427
Speaker 2: in the Third Test between Australia and India straight away

770
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Speaker 2: after one o'clock though, the All Blacks player of the year.

771
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Speaker 2: Who would have thought a year ago that would be

772
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Speaker 2: Wallace Setiti it is and he's with us after one.

773
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Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

774
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Speaker 1: on and after fields.

775
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Speaker 4: It's all on Weekends Ford with Jason Vain on your

776
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Speaker 4: home of.

777
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Speaker 2: Sport in New York one eight. Hello, Welcome into Weekend Sport.

778
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Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pine, Andy McDonald the show producer. Were han

779
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Speaker 2: till three. You might have just arrived having spent the

780
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Speaker 2: last hour perhaps taking in the cricket from Hamilton. Good

781
00:41:38,147 --> 00:41:40,467
Speaker 2: to have you along during the lunch break. If you're

782
00:41:40,547 --> 00:41:42,787
Speaker 2: unaware of what's going on in Hamilton, if you missed

783
00:41:42,787 --> 00:41:44,747
Speaker 2: our sports news, haven't really been keeping an air or

784
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Speaker 2: an eye on it. Ninety three without Lost New Zealand

785
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Speaker 2: ninety three without loss at it stumps. No lunch, I'm

786
00:41:50,707 --> 00:41:52,427
Speaker 2: going to be very good stump score. What if you'd

787
00:41:52,827 --> 00:41:54,947
Speaker 2: bet it all day ninety three without loss At lunch

788
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Speaker 2: Will Young and Tom Latham safely negotiating their way through

789
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Speaker 2: the first session in Hamilton. Young's forty two not out,

790
00:42:03,387 --> 00:42:06,987
Speaker 2: Latham thirty six not out. I was thinking that we

791
00:42:07,067 --> 00:42:08,987
Speaker 2: haven't won that many sessions, but I look back at

792
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Speaker 2: the first session in christ Church and at lunch in

793
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Speaker 2: christ Church on the first day we were one hundred

794
00:42:14,467 --> 00:42:16,707
Speaker 2: and four for two, so that's a pretty solid position.

795
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Speaker 2: After the first session of the christ Church Test match

796
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Speaker 2: and after the first session of the Wellington Test match

797
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Speaker 2: we had England four down eight one hundred and twenty

798
00:42:25,267 --> 00:42:28,307
Speaker 2: four on the board. Admittedly, but we'd picked up four

799
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Speaker 2: wickets in the first session of the first day in Wellington.

800
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Speaker 2: So actually the first sessions have been all right. This

801
00:42:35,187 --> 00:42:38,267
Speaker 2: is as good as any of them. Ninety three without loss.

802
00:42:39,227 --> 00:42:42,067
Speaker 2: I guess it's what happens beyond this. Great to see

803
00:42:42,107 --> 00:42:43,987
Speaker 2: Will Young back out there, isn't it something to look

804
00:42:43,987 --> 00:42:47,107
Speaker 2: at Will Young's numbers? Actually, before I give you those,

805
00:42:47,267 --> 00:42:49,067
Speaker 2: if you have just joined us and you've been keeping

806
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Speaker 2: an eye on the cricket and you've got some observations

807
00:42:50,907 --> 00:42:53,827
Speaker 2: from the morning. It's look good. I mean, it's not

808
00:42:53,867 --> 00:42:55,467
Speaker 2: as though we've lost five wickets and you can call

809
00:42:55,547 --> 00:42:58,147
Speaker 2: up and say how terrible we are. But if you've

810
00:42:58,147 --> 00:43:00,427
Speaker 2: watched Will Young and Tom Laithan bat I'd love to

811
00:43:00,467 --> 00:43:03,067
Speaker 2: hear you assessment. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

812
00:43:03,107 --> 00:43:06,627
Speaker 2: We'll keep the lines open right across the afternoon. Anything

813
00:43:06,707 --> 00:43:09,787
Speaker 2: really you want to contribute to the show is welcome,

814
00:43:10,747 --> 00:43:13,427
Speaker 2: warmly encouraged. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two

815
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Speaker 2: nine to two On text Will Young. I was looking

816
00:43:16,707 --> 00:43:22,907
Speaker 2: at his numbers in India. We all knew he batted

817
00:43:22,907 --> 00:43:24,787
Speaker 2: well over there. You don't get Man of the Series

818
00:43:24,827 --> 00:43:28,067
Speaker 2: without batting well. But I'd kind of forgotten the consistency

819
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Speaker 2: that Will Young has brought to his Test game in

820
00:43:31,307 --> 00:43:34,467
Speaker 2: recent time. So in the first Test in BEng LaRue

821
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Speaker 2: thirty three and forty eight not out. He was there

822
00:43:37,147 --> 00:43:38,907
Speaker 2: at the end when the winning runs were hit, that

823
00:43:38,987 --> 00:43:41,667
Speaker 2: he hit them. He might have eighteen and twenty three

824
00:43:41,707 --> 00:43:44,667
Speaker 2: in Poune, which I guess wasn't quite as impressive, but

825
00:43:44,707 --> 00:43:48,227
Speaker 2: then seventy one and fifty one and the Third Test

826
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Speaker 2: in one Cadie, So a huge part of New Zealand

827
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Speaker 2: success over there with this consistency. Yeah, there's no century there,

828
00:43:54,867 --> 00:43:58,107
Speaker 2: but in a low scoring series, averaging close to fifty

829
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Speaker 2: was an outlier really as far as both teams were concerned.

830
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Speaker 2: And now forty two not out here at lunch, so

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Speaker 2: he's going along nicely. Will Young. The problem I think

832
00:44:07,787 --> 00:44:11,307
Speaker 2: he might strike is that after this there isn't any

833
00:44:11,347 --> 00:44:13,707
Speaker 2: Test cricket for New Zealand until the middle of next year,

834
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Speaker 2: by which stage even if he gets one hundred here,

835
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Speaker 2: even if he bats well, I get the feeling it'll

836
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Speaker 2: be forgotten. And when the Test side is named for

837
00:44:24,467 --> 00:44:26,267
Speaker 2: the next Test matches for New Zealand, which I think

838
00:44:26,267 --> 00:44:29,827
Speaker 2: are Agains Zimbabwe, I wonder whether they'll just revert back.

839
00:44:30,067 --> 00:44:31,867
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Devin Conway does need to be

840
00:44:31,907 --> 00:44:35,507
Speaker 2: in the team. Of course he does on form, he's

841
00:44:36,547 --> 00:44:40,427
Speaker 2: a terrific Test player. But I just hope that Will

842
00:44:40,467 --> 00:44:42,507
Speaker 2: Young doesn't become the victim of what seems to have

843
00:44:42,507 --> 00:44:44,627
Speaker 2: happened to him so often in the past, where he's

844
00:44:44,667 --> 00:44:47,307
Speaker 2: really just the reserve batter, comes in, does a job,

845
00:44:47,307 --> 00:44:49,587
Speaker 2: but when the bloke he's replaced his foot again he

846
00:44:49,667 --> 00:44:52,107
Speaker 2: drops out. Be great to see will young as you

847
00:44:52,107 --> 00:44:55,027
Speaker 2: get a decent run on the side, wouldn't it anyway?

848
00:44:55,627 --> 00:44:56,987
Speaker 2: I guess all he can do at the moment is

849
00:44:57,587 --> 00:45:00,787
Speaker 2: bat and bat and bat and Hamilton and see where

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00:45:00,787 --> 00:45:04,027
Speaker 2: that places him. We'll keep eyes on that for you.

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00:45:04,147 --> 00:45:06,947
Speaker 2: I think we have a Test a toss rather in

852
00:45:07,027 --> 00:45:11,507
Speaker 2: the Third Test in Brisbane Australia and India. Yes, India

853
00:45:11,507 --> 00:45:15,267
Speaker 2: have won the toss over there and have sent Australia

854
00:45:15,307 --> 00:45:17,587
Speaker 2: into bat. So India have won the toss, send Australia

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00:45:17,587 --> 00:45:19,907
Speaker 2: into bout at the Gabba. That's a duty get underway

856
00:45:19,987 --> 00:45:22,627
Speaker 2: at one twenty. That seems like an odd time to

857
00:45:22,667 --> 00:45:25,507
Speaker 2: be starting a game of cricket one twenty. They're three

858
00:45:25,547 --> 00:45:28,307
Speaker 2: hours behind, aren't they in Brisbane don't do daylight savings,

859
00:45:28,347 --> 00:45:30,547
Speaker 2: so ten twenty in the morning, I don't know they

860
00:45:30,547 --> 00:45:33,067
Speaker 2: can do what they like. India will will take to

861
00:45:33,107 --> 00:45:36,547
Speaker 2: the field. Australia will go out to bat in around

862
00:45:36,907 --> 00:45:39,227
Speaker 2: eight minutes, so we'll keep eyes on that for you

863
00:45:39,347 --> 00:45:41,547
Speaker 2: as well. But we're going to start this hour with

864
00:45:41,587 --> 00:45:45,387
Speaker 2: a rather unseasonal look at rugby because on Thursday night,

865
00:45:45,747 --> 00:45:49,587
Speaker 2: the New Zealand Rugby Awards were handed out Blackfern Seven's

866
00:45:49,627 --> 00:45:53,027
Speaker 2: youngster Georgia Miller, got the big gong, the Kel Tremaine

867
00:45:53,107 --> 00:45:58,107
Speaker 2: Memorial Award for Rugby Player of the Year. She's only twenty.

868
00:45:58,467 --> 00:46:02,107
Speaker 2: Georgia Miller the second youngest recipient of the award in

869
00:46:02,147 --> 00:46:06,827
Speaker 2: its thirty year history, behind only Jon Olomu. Black Sevens

870
00:46:06,827 --> 00:46:10,067
Speaker 2: coach Corey Sweeney and the team itself won Coach and

871
00:46:10,147 --> 00:46:13,107
Speaker 2: Team of the Year respectively for their gold medal at

872
00:46:13,107 --> 00:46:16,547
Speaker 2: the Paris Olympics and their World Series League triumph. The

873
00:46:16,587 --> 00:46:21,787
Speaker 2: Blues also big winners unsurprisingly, national men's and women's Teams

874
00:46:21,867 --> 00:46:23,947
Speaker 2: of the Year, Men's National Coach of the Year through

875
00:46:24,027 --> 00:46:27,667
Speaker 2: Vern Cotta, Super Rugby Player of the Year through Hoskins,

876
00:46:27,747 --> 00:46:32,667
Speaker 2: Setutu and Caitlin Varcolo won Top Ope. Key women's player

877
00:46:33,027 --> 00:46:36,787
Speaker 2: Tyree Lomax was the Tom French Memorial Multi Player of

878
00:46:36,827 --> 00:46:41,347
Speaker 2: the Year, and Wallace Satiti All Blacks Player of the Year.

879
00:46:41,507 --> 00:46:43,507
Speaker 6: Down the blind again, Wallace Attis popped up.

880
00:46:43,507 --> 00:46:44,627
Speaker 2: There gets the pass.

881
00:46:44,387 --> 00:46:52,907
Speaker 5: Away from That's.

882
00:46:48,907 --> 00:46:50,867
Speaker 11: An incredible pass by Wallace Atiti.

883
00:46:50,907 --> 00:46:53,747
Speaker 2: There had two men on him. He took into the contact.

884
00:46:54,027 --> 00:46:57,787
Speaker 2: What a debut season for Wallace Satiti, who joins US

885
00:46:57,787 --> 00:47:01,947
Speaker 2: now Wallace All Blacks Player of the Year. Was that

886
00:47:02,027 --> 00:47:06,067
Speaker 2: a sentence you possibly could have imagined hearing about six

887
00:47:06,107 --> 00:47:06,587
Speaker 2: months to go?

888
00:47:08,827 --> 00:47:12,907
Speaker 12: Definitely, definitely not I would have been happy with one

889
00:47:12,987 --> 00:47:15,627
Speaker 12: day with the Chiefs and had to be here as

890
00:47:15,707 --> 00:47:19,467
Speaker 12: technically unexpected, and yeah, just grateful I was able to,

891
00:47:19,627 --> 00:47:23,267
Speaker 12: you know, have the season that I had and luckily

892
00:47:23,347 --> 00:47:26,587
Speaker 12: it was put a few performances together and yeah, just

893
00:47:26,587 --> 00:47:27,627
Speaker 12: go for to say the award.

894
00:47:28,427 --> 00:47:30,947
Speaker 2: Just I think it's it's easy to forget that this

895
00:47:31,107 --> 00:47:33,747
Speaker 2: was your first year also of super rugby and you

896
00:47:33,747 --> 00:47:37,187
Speaker 2: didn't get your first start until round seven. Once you

897
00:47:37,267 --> 00:47:40,467
Speaker 2: got into the Chiefs team. Did you feel comfortable at

898
00:47:40,507 --> 00:47:42,387
Speaker 2: super level? Pretty much straight away?

899
00:47:44,827 --> 00:47:46,947
Speaker 12: I always needed, you know, I just needed to be

900
00:47:47,067 --> 00:47:49,747
Speaker 12: ready for when the opportunity came, and then it was

901
00:47:49,747 --> 00:47:53,667
Speaker 12: just about taking the opportunity and not letting anyone ta

902
00:47:53,707 --> 00:47:55,787
Speaker 12: get away from here. So I don't know if I

903
00:47:55,827 --> 00:47:59,507
Speaker 12: was comfortable shot away, but yeah, definitely find my shoulder

904
00:47:59,947 --> 00:48:00,987
Speaker 12: after a few weeks.

905
00:48:01,227 --> 00:48:03,867
Speaker 2: I can ask you about the performance in the semi

906
00:48:03,907 --> 00:48:07,107
Speaker 2: final went over the Hurricanes in Wellington. Uh, you know,

907
00:48:07,627 --> 00:48:11,107
Speaker 2: a standout performance from you that night. Was that a

908
00:48:11,107 --> 00:48:13,067
Speaker 2: particularly memorable night for you?

909
00:48:14,707 --> 00:48:19,107
Speaker 12: Yeah, for sure. We had played them twice before and

910
00:48:19,347 --> 00:48:21,827
Speaker 12: they got the better of us both times. So that

911
00:48:21,987 --> 00:48:25,627
Speaker 12: was definitely a sort of sense of motivation for us

912
00:48:25,667 --> 00:48:28,187
Speaker 12: to get one over there, you know, over the big

913
00:48:28,227 --> 00:48:31,947
Speaker 12: team that sort of was leading the whole year. And yeah,

914
00:48:31,987 --> 00:48:34,387
Speaker 12: have you ever to one, especially an assumi or special?

915
00:48:34,467 --> 00:48:37,747
Speaker 12: And yeah, if anyboy wonder next week.

916
00:48:38,587 --> 00:48:41,547
Speaker 2: Well, well maybe that'll come come next year. So so

917
00:48:41,627 --> 00:48:45,267
Speaker 2: after Super Rugby finished, Wallace, did you think you were

918
00:48:45,307 --> 00:48:46,987
Speaker 2: in the frame for All Black Selection?

919
00:48:48,187 --> 00:48:49,867
Speaker 7: I know you're on the phone. I'm so sorry.

920
00:48:50,027 --> 00:48:51,467
Speaker 6: So can I get a picture of you after?

921
00:48:53,387 --> 00:48:53,867
Speaker 12: Yeah? For sure?

922
00:48:54,667 --> 00:48:58,547
Speaker 2: Sorry? Are you still getting for photos? I love that.

923
00:48:58,787 --> 00:49:02,067
Speaker 2: I just wondered whether after Super Rugby you you thought

924
00:49:02,067 --> 00:49:03,867
Speaker 2: you were in the frame for All Black Selection.

925
00:49:05,627 --> 00:49:07,587
Speaker 12: Uh, I didn't know. I didn't think much of her,

926
00:49:07,587 --> 00:49:11,027
Speaker 12: if I to be honest, specially after that final final performance.

927
00:49:11,107 --> 00:49:13,707
Speaker 12: And so when I heard my name was a shock

928
00:49:13,827 --> 00:49:16,707
Speaker 12: and it was just a special moment for myself and

929
00:49:16,787 --> 00:49:17,267
Speaker 12: my family.

930
00:49:18,147 --> 00:49:20,107
Speaker 2: How were the emotions when you came into the all

931
00:49:20,147 --> 00:49:22,547
Speaker 2: Blacks environment for the first time? I mean, I don't know,

932
00:49:22,587 --> 00:49:23,947
Speaker 2: I'd be nervous. Were you nervous?

933
00:49:25,107 --> 00:49:29,907
Speaker 12: Oh, if you're nervous, defly overwhelmed? And I was just

934
00:49:30,307 --> 00:49:32,987
Speaker 12: happy to be in an environment and the senior guys,

935
00:49:33,107 --> 00:49:36,787
Speaker 12: you know, they made me feel welcome. It is my

936
00:49:36,947 --> 00:49:42,027
Speaker 12: nerves a little bit. And yeah and yeah, I was

937
00:49:42,067 --> 00:49:43,987
Speaker 12: just controlled by the senior boys.

938
00:49:43,987 --> 00:49:46,547
Speaker 2: Really, So who were the players who were who were

939
00:49:46,587 --> 00:49:50,107
Speaker 2: most helpful to you and the other new players, maybe

940
00:49:50,147 --> 00:49:52,507
Speaker 2: specifically you, who were who were the players who were

941
00:49:52,507 --> 00:49:55,067
Speaker 2: most helpful to you as you were finding your feet

942
00:49:55,147 --> 00:49:56,227
Speaker 2: in the all blacks?

943
00:49:57,027 --> 00:49:57,187
Speaker 11: Uh?

944
00:49:57,587 --> 00:50:01,947
Speaker 12: I can't get past Nati, So there sort of you know,

945
00:50:01,987 --> 00:50:03,987
Speaker 12: my mentor, and he took me under his wing. And

946
00:50:06,187 --> 00:50:10,147
Speaker 12: how done he played similar positions and and I think

947
00:50:10,187 --> 00:50:12,747
Speaker 12: we're we can relate to each other really well. So

948
00:50:13,227 --> 00:50:16,987
Speaker 12: I was able to connect really well of him kept

949
00:50:16,987 --> 00:50:19,467
Speaker 12: telling me to enjoy the moment and just to play

950
00:50:19,467 --> 00:50:22,467
Speaker 12: footy and just to keep working on and you go.

951
00:50:22,587 --> 00:50:27,227
Speaker 12: Other guys of class like Sam Kaine, Damian McKenzie, you know,

952
00:50:27,267 --> 00:50:31,987
Speaker 12: they the chiefs men, so that they really they sure

953
00:50:32,027 --> 00:50:34,827
Speaker 12: I felt comfortable and just allowed me to find my shirt.

954
00:50:35,587 --> 00:50:38,067
Speaker 2: And your test A boot came up in San Diego

955
00:50:38,187 --> 00:50:41,427
Speaker 2: against Fiji off the bench. How special a moment was

956
00:50:41,427 --> 00:50:43,187
Speaker 2: it to take the field in the black jersey for

957
00:50:43,227 --> 00:50:43,827
Speaker 2: the first time.

958
00:50:44,787 --> 00:50:48,947
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was a emotional moment, knowing for myself, both

959
00:50:49,107 --> 00:50:53,627
Speaker 12: for my parents who were able to make the trip over. Yeah,

960
00:50:53,667 --> 00:50:57,107
Speaker 12: it's sort of you know, all the clashback, a little

961
00:50:57,147 --> 00:51:00,507
Speaker 12: hard work and all the sort of roller curses that

962
00:51:00,627 --> 00:51:02,307
Speaker 12: came up the journey. You know, it just comes back

963
00:51:02,307 --> 00:51:04,387
Speaker 12: to you. And to be able to make that debut

964
00:51:04,387 --> 00:51:07,907
Speaker 12: and sort of took that box was sure and manage

965
00:51:07,947 --> 00:51:09,987
Speaker 12: was a special moment for me and my family.

966
00:51:10,507 --> 00:51:13,707
Speaker 2: And then your first start against South Africa in Cape

967
00:51:13,747 --> 00:51:15,467
Speaker 2: Town and then from there on you were in the

968
00:51:15,507 --> 00:51:19,547
Speaker 2: team well every week. Basically, how did you manage the

969
00:51:19,587 --> 00:51:22,867
Speaker 2: physical and mental workloads that I think was eight tests

970
00:51:22,907 --> 00:51:24,467
Speaker 2: the last eight tests of the year you played them

971
00:51:24,467 --> 00:51:27,547
Speaker 2: all started the all How did you manage the physical

972
00:51:27,667 --> 00:51:29,867
Speaker 2: and mental workload that came with that?

973
00:51:31,707 --> 00:51:32,067
Speaker 8: Yeah.

974
00:51:32,147 --> 00:51:34,587
Speaker 12: See, firstly, just like super was just about ready for

975
00:51:34,587 --> 00:51:37,147
Speaker 12: your opportunity and then when it comes to you, it's

976
00:51:37,147 --> 00:51:39,507
Speaker 12: take your first hands and not let anyone take it.

977
00:51:39,547 --> 00:51:46,307
Speaker 12: And fortunately enough had my opportunity against South Africans, and man,

978
00:51:46,347 --> 00:51:47,427
Speaker 12: it was just a first of all, it was a

979
00:51:47,547 --> 00:51:50,707
Speaker 12: dream to be able to play against him teams, to

980
00:51:50,747 --> 00:51:53,787
Speaker 12: come up against some world class players and yeah, like

981
00:51:53,787 --> 00:51:55,947
Speaker 12: I said, you got to go back to your to

982
00:51:56,027 --> 00:51:59,747
Speaker 12: your training credits and environment. When you got class guys

983
00:51:59,787 --> 00:52:01,267
Speaker 12: around you, you sort of just want to do your

984
00:52:01,267 --> 00:52:03,747
Speaker 12: best with him, and they made sure I was prepared

985
00:52:03,787 --> 00:52:06,227
Speaker 12: throughout the weekend. Just continue to do so.

986
00:52:06,587 --> 00:52:08,947
Speaker 2: The year and we saw you mainly play at number

987
00:52:08,947 --> 00:52:11,867
Speaker 2: eight for the Chiefs. Most of your games for the

988
00:52:11,867 --> 00:52:14,707
Speaker 2: All Blacks were in the sixth jersey was that? Was

989
00:52:14,707 --> 00:52:16,587
Speaker 2: that a big adjustment to make Wallace.

990
00:52:18,427 --> 00:52:20,267
Speaker 12: Just obvious adjustment in terms of the lighter on in

991
00:52:20,307 --> 00:52:24,667
Speaker 12: the scrum rather than day was about achieving the game. Simple,

992
00:52:25,907 --> 00:52:28,987
Speaker 12: I'm not too fuss. I'll back the coaches and where

993
00:52:28,987 --> 00:52:31,547
Speaker 12: they put me in, I'll just try my best to

994
00:52:31,547 --> 00:52:32,547
Speaker 12: do the position justice.

995
00:52:32,587 --> 00:52:33,867
Speaker 7: So yeah, do.

996
00:52:33,787 --> 00:52:35,587
Speaker 2: You feel us some in the loose forwards? Actually it

997
00:52:35,627 --> 00:52:37,987
Speaker 2: doesn't matter too much whether it's a six or seven

998
00:52:38,307 --> 00:52:39,467
Speaker 2: or an eight on your back.

999
00:52:40,907 --> 00:52:43,147
Speaker 12: Depends on the system, I think sort of however you

1000
00:52:43,187 --> 00:52:47,467
Speaker 12: want to play, they don't find too much difference obviously,

1001
00:52:47,547 --> 00:52:49,827
Speaker 12: just a laner and the scrum. But yeah, it was

1002
00:52:49,827 --> 00:52:51,507
Speaker 12: just about running hard and tuckle heart.

1003
00:52:52,707 --> 00:52:54,787
Speaker 2: Why not? And at the back end of the year

1004
00:52:54,827 --> 00:52:57,747
Speaker 2: you're also named World Rugby's Breakthrough Player of the Year.

1005
00:52:58,067 --> 00:52:59,467
Speaker 2: How special an honor was that? For you.

1006
00:53:00,827 --> 00:53:03,747
Speaker 12: Oh, man was special. Just going to the awards, it

1007
00:53:03,827 --> 00:53:05,787
Speaker 12: was crazy. It was a crazy experience for me and

1008
00:53:07,067 --> 00:53:09,387
Speaker 12: being around some of the best players in the world

1009
00:53:09,747 --> 00:53:12,627
Speaker 12: at the time at the time, and yeah, to would

1010
00:53:12,667 --> 00:53:15,627
Speaker 12: be able to receive it on behalf of my family

1011
00:53:15,707 --> 00:53:18,587
Speaker 12: and my teammates. Yeah, it was special.

1012
00:53:18,707 --> 00:53:19,307
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a year?

1013
00:53:19,387 --> 00:53:19,587
Speaker 6: Right?

1014
00:53:19,627 --> 00:53:22,267
Speaker 2: So is this all happened? This is probably a silly question.

1015
00:53:22,587 --> 00:53:24,667
Speaker 2: Is this all happened a bit quicker, a bit quicker

1016
00:53:24,667 --> 00:53:25,947
Speaker 2: than you thought it might all of us?

1017
00:53:27,067 --> 00:53:27,267
Speaker 3: Oh?

1018
00:53:27,347 --> 00:53:31,987
Speaker 12: Definitely. I think sort of took everyone by surprise, and

1019
00:53:32,307 --> 00:53:34,387
Speaker 12: just like myself, I was, I'm a bough shocked and

1020
00:53:34,387 --> 00:53:37,347
Speaker 12: I still got to push myself now. So yeah, I'm

1021
00:53:37,387 --> 00:53:40,147
Speaker 12: just extremely grateful for the year, with the year had.

1022
00:53:40,227 --> 00:53:42,307
Speaker 2: Yeah, your family pretty proud of you.

1023
00:53:43,867 --> 00:53:44,547
Speaker 7: Oh, I hope so.

1024
00:53:47,587 --> 00:53:49,067
Speaker 2: And so, Hey, are you going to spend the summer

1025
00:53:49,107 --> 00:53:51,107
Speaker 2: once you've once you've got got through talking to me,

1026
00:53:51,187 --> 00:53:53,067
Speaker 2: which you've done in your holiday, Hey, are you going

1027
00:53:53,067 --> 00:53:54,547
Speaker 2: to spend your summer here? Are going to spend your

1028
00:53:54,547 --> 00:53:55,067
Speaker 2: summer break?

1029
00:53:56,867 --> 00:53:59,067
Speaker 12: Hopefully were the holes up and we're able to hold

1030
00:53:59,067 --> 00:54:02,547
Speaker 12: a few barbecues. Hopefully you're able to make a trip

1031
00:54:02,587 --> 00:54:04,547
Speaker 12: away and just spin on some.

1032
00:54:04,627 --> 00:54:09,347
Speaker 2: Family fantastic well, congratulations on an absolutely standout year. Recognized

1033
00:54:09,347 --> 00:54:11,307
Speaker 2: that All Blacks Player of the Year Wallace. Much more

1034
00:54:11,307 --> 00:54:13,227
Speaker 2: to come, I'm sure enjoy your break mate, look forward

1035
00:54:13,227 --> 00:54:15,147
Speaker 2: to seeing what twenty twenty five holds for you.

1036
00:54:16,267 --> 00:54:17,187
Speaker 12: Thank you very much.

1037
00:54:17,507 --> 00:54:20,787
Speaker 2: Take care you take care too, Wallace. Thanks indeed, Wallace Satiti.

1038
00:54:20,827 --> 00:54:24,507
Speaker 2: There can anybody hand on heart have said that, even

1039
00:54:24,627 --> 00:54:27,547
Speaker 2: I was going to say a year ago, even even

1040
00:54:27,787 --> 00:54:31,467
Speaker 2: after Super Rugby when he was really impressive, can anybody

1041
00:54:31,507 --> 00:54:34,267
Speaker 2: hand on heart truly have said there is You're All

1042
00:54:34,307 --> 00:54:37,467
Speaker 2: Black of the Year. I remember when the team was

1043
00:54:37,507 --> 00:54:39,347
Speaker 2: first named, a lot of people didn't think he should

1044
00:54:39,347 --> 00:54:43,507
Speaker 2: have been there. There was a lot of noise around

1045
00:54:43,507 --> 00:54:48,107
Speaker 2: about Hoskins Satutu, and rightly so. He had an absolutely

1046
00:54:48,147 --> 00:54:52,867
Speaker 2: brilliant Super Rugby campaign for the title winning Blues. Wasn't

1047
00:54:52,947 --> 00:54:55,107
Speaker 2: named in the All Blacks. And whether it was a

1048
00:54:55,187 --> 00:54:59,427
Speaker 2: choice between Sotutu and Satiti or not, or whether it

1049
00:54:59,467 --> 00:55:02,627
Speaker 2: was just the fact that the loose forwards they chose

1050
00:55:02,987 --> 00:55:06,427
Speaker 2: included Satiti and not Stutu, the fact remains that I

1051
00:55:06,467 --> 00:55:11,467
Speaker 2: don't think a lot of people saw Wallace Setti's year coming.

1052
00:55:11,627 --> 00:55:13,867
Speaker 2: He didn't play in either of the Tests against England,

1053
00:55:14,267 --> 00:55:18,067
Speaker 2: got his debut off the bench against Fiji up in

1054
00:55:18,147 --> 00:55:22,867
Speaker 2: San Diego, and then again came off the bench against

1055
00:55:23,027 --> 00:55:27,947
Speaker 2: Argentina in Wellington. Wasn't in the team that redressed that

1056
00:55:28,067 --> 00:55:32,387
Speaker 2: loss in Wellington by winning against Argentina comfortably up in Auckland,

1057
00:55:32,427 --> 00:55:35,187
Speaker 2: and wasn't in the twenty three either for the first

1058
00:55:35,227 --> 00:55:38,867
Speaker 2: Test against South Africa in Johannesburg. So here we are

1059
00:55:39,027 --> 00:55:43,067
Speaker 2: six tests into the season and Wallace a Titi has

1060
00:55:43,107 --> 00:55:46,427
Speaker 2: featured twice off the bench. But then as I just

1061
00:55:46,467 --> 00:55:51,107
Speaker 2: mentioned to him there, he was handed a starting debut

1062
00:55:51,267 --> 00:55:54,947
Speaker 2: against South Africa in Cape Town. For the three previous tests,

1063
00:55:54,947 --> 00:55:59,587
Speaker 2: Ethan Blackadder had worn the number six and from memory

1064
00:55:59,587 --> 00:56:01,947
Speaker 2: got injured I think, either in that test or in

1065
00:56:01,987 --> 00:56:04,227
Speaker 2: the lead up to the second one. So the sixth

1066
00:56:04,307 --> 00:56:07,587
Speaker 2: jersey was open and it was Wallace Tatti against a

1067
00:56:07,587 --> 00:56:11,747
Speaker 2: lot of people's expectations. Again this number eight, this rookie

1068
00:56:11,827 --> 00:56:13,507
Speaker 2: number eight out of the Chiefs, who was handed the

1069
00:56:13,547 --> 00:56:17,387
Speaker 2: six jumper. But from the moment he played against South

1070
00:56:17,387 --> 00:56:20,747
Speaker 2: Africa and Cape Town, right through the two Bitterslow Cup Tests,

1071
00:56:20,747 --> 00:56:22,747
Speaker 2: and then on the end of year tour, it just

1072
00:56:22,827 --> 00:56:28,067
Speaker 2: became increasingly obvious what a special talent he is. I

1073
00:56:28,147 --> 00:56:32,147
Speaker 2: remember watching him in Wellington against Australia. I was sideline

1074
00:56:32,147 --> 00:56:35,307
Speaker 2: for that game for our news Talks HEDB commentary and

1075
00:56:35,427 --> 00:56:40,387
Speaker 2: just marveling at his athleticism and just his all round

1076
00:56:40,467 --> 00:56:45,267
Speaker 2: game both sides of the ball, his relentless work rate,

1077
00:56:46,387 --> 00:56:50,747
Speaker 2: his hands, just his handling. And I mentioned that Super

1078
00:56:50,827 --> 00:56:53,587
Speaker 2: Rugby semi final as well because I was also involved

1079
00:56:53,627 --> 00:56:56,987
Speaker 2: in the commentary of that game Chiefs Hurricanes in Wellington

1080
00:56:57,267 --> 00:57:01,627
Speaker 2: Super Rugby semi Final this year and it was one

1081
00:57:01,627 --> 00:57:04,787
Speaker 2: of the great individual performances. In fact, it wouldn't be

1082
00:57:04,787 --> 00:57:09,147
Speaker 2: a surprise if performance alone was what tipped the scales

1083
00:57:09,867 --> 00:57:12,227
Speaker 2: in Wallace a Titi's favor in terms of the All

1084
00:57:12,227 --> 00:57:17,187
Speaker 2: Black selection. And then obviously he played every Test match

1085
00:57:17,867 --> 00:57:21,427
Speaker 2: from Cape Town through Sydney, Wellington, Yokohama, London, Dublin, Paris

1086
00:57:21,827 --> 00:57:24,827
Speaker 2: and Chirin, most of them the sixth Jumper think he

1087
00:57:24,907 --> 00:57:27,867
Speaker 2: started against Japan in the number eight Jersey and against

1088
00:57:27,907 --> 00:57:30,707
Speaker 2: France at number eight, although that's when I think didn't

1089
00:57:30,707 --> 00:57:32,307
Speaker 2: feed now get in jurally in that game that to

1090
00:57:32,787 --> 00:57:35,667
Speaker 2: shuffle around lark I came on anyway, what a player,

1091
00:57:35,867 --> 00:57:38,787
Speaker 2: So can you remember I'm just trying to remember and

1092
00:57:38,827 --> 00:57:40,427
Speaker 2: you can just text this reof you like all call

1093
00:57:40,467 --> 00:57:44,387
Speaker 2: it Call it in. Can you remember a greater first

1094
00:57:44,507 --> 00:57:50,707
Speaker 2: year impact from an All Black, A player who in

1095
00:57:50,707 --> 00:57:53,907
Speaker 2: his first year in the black jersey has made as

1096
00:57:53,947 --> 00:57:57,867
Speaker 2: big an impact as Wallace A tti oh eight hundred

1097
00:57:57,867 --> 00:58:00,267
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty. If you would like to join

1098
00:58:00,347 --> 00:58:04,267
Speaker 2: us on the phone and chew this over in in

1099
00:58:04,307 --> 00:58:06,907
Speaker 2: a verbal sense or just text it through. The only

1100
00:58:06,947 --> 00:58:10,187
Speaker 2: one I can think of in the professional era anyway

1101
00:58:10,667 --> 00:58:14,107
Speaker 2: is Christian Cullen. When Cully came into the team in

1102
00:58:14,147 --> 00:58:16,467
Speaker 2: the first year of professional rugby in nineteen ninety six.

1103
00:58:16,467 --> 00:58:18,267
Speaker 2: I remember at the ninety ninety five Rugby World Cup,

1104
00:58:18,267 --> 00:58:20,867
Speaker 2: Glen Osborne was the fallback and he was terrific and

1105
00:58:20,867 --> 00:58:22,427
Speaker 2: everyone thought, all that guy's going to wear the fifteen

1106
00:58:22,507 --> 00:58:23,507
Speaker 2: jumper for a long time.

1107
00:58:23,307 --> 00:58:23,947
Speaker 3: For New Zealand.

1108
00:58:24,707 --> 00:58:27,107
Speaker 2: And then a guy by the name of Christian Cullen

1109
00:58:27,147 --> 00:58:30,027
Speaker 2: appeared seven tries in his first two test matches and

1110
00:58:30,027 --> 00:58:36,187
Speaker 2: then hardly missed a gain until his absolutely inexplicable dropping

1111
00:58:36,267 --> 00:58:38,787
Speaker 2: by John Mitchell in the early part of the sort

1112
00:58:38,787 --> 00:58:44,347
Speaker 2: of two thousands. I can't remember a greater first year

1113
00:58:44,427 --> 00:58:48,227
Speaker 2: impact from an All Black. Can you, oh, eight hundred

1114
00:58:48,227 --> 00:58:49,947
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty if you can, or you can

1115
00:58:50,027 --> 00:58:55,507
Speaker 2: just luxuriate, celebrate the impact of Wallace Satiti and what

1116
00:58:55,747 --> 00:58:58,547
Speaker 2: might he go on to achieve. You don't want to

1117
00:58:58,587 --> 00:59:01,147
Speaker 2: pump a guy's tires up too much in his first year,

1118
00:59:01,907 --> 00:59:04,427
Speaker 2: but what a first year has. In fact, has a

1119
00:59:04,507 --> 00:59:07,427
Speaker 2: rookie ever won All Blacks Player of the Year, They

1120
00:59:07,547 --> 00:59:10,467
Speaker 2: probably have. I can't remember. You might remember, oh, eight

1121
00:59:10,587 --> 00:59:14,267
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty. Hello, Brendan, Hello, how are

1122
00:59:14,307 --> 00:59:15,307
Speaker 2: you Brendan?

1123
00:59:15,387 --> 00:59:15,587
Speaker 3: Great?

1124
00:59:15,627 --> 00:59:17,027
Speaker 2: You saud on top of the world? Mate. You sound

1125
00:59:17,027 --> 00:59:19,547
Speaker 2: like you've got all your Christmas shopping done already.

1126
00:59:19,867 --> 00:59:23,907
Speaker 8: Absolutely just about to wrap the presence. But that this

1127
00:59:23,947 --> 00:59:27,027
Speaker 8: will give away my age. But there is one person

1128
00:59:27,067 --> 00:59:29,547
Speaker 8: I can think of. Well, we're going back a long

1129
00:59:29,587 --> 00:59:33,227
Speaker 8: time now. He had already played for some are but

1130
00:59:33,787 --> 00:59:37,027
Speaker 8: in his debut season for the All Blacks, he makes

1131
00:59:37,067 --> 00:59:39,427
Speaker 8: other things, helped us win the Rugby World Cup in

1132
00:59:39,507 --> 00:59:42,427
Speaker 8: nineteen eighty seven. One of the best athletes I've ever

1133
00:59:42,467 --> 00:59:45,667
Speaker 8: seen play the game, and that.

1134
00:59:45,667 --> 00:59:50,147
Speaker 2: Was eighty seven. Are you talking about You're talking about

1135
00:59:50,187 --> 00:59:50,827
Speaker 2: Michael Jones.

1136
00:59:50,987 --> 00:59:54,947
Speaker 8: Michael Jones, Yeah, yeah, Well he played for Somemer in

1137
00:59:54,987 --> 00:59:57,787
Speaker 8: eighty six. So eighty seven was his debut year. So

1138
00:59:57,867 --> 00:59:59,267
Speaker 8: how how's that for a debut year.

1139
00:59:59,707 --> 01:00:01,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not yeah, I'm not sure about the summern thing,

1140
01:00:01,667 --> 01:00:03,827
Speaker 2: but absolutely when he burst onto the scene, I was

1141
01:00:03,827 --> 01:00:05,267
Speaker 2: trying to remember who was sort of in the seven

1142
01:00:05,347 --> 01:00:09,467
Speaker 2: jumper leading in there. I think, yeah, Jock Hobbs. I

1143
01:00:09,507 --> 01:00:10,427
Speaker 2: was going to say, Jock Hobbs.

1144
01:00:10,467 --> 01:00:12,907
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, he got concussion.

1145
01:00:12,987 --> 01:00:16,187
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, Michael, Michael Jones. That's a good shout, Brendan.

1146
01:00:16,227 --> 01:00:18,667
Speaker 2: And it doesn't show, it doesn't It doesn't show your age, mate.

1147
01:00:18,707 --> 01:00:21,107
Speaker 2: I remember, I remember eighty seven very well, and I'm

1148
01:00:21,147 --> 01:00:21,627
Speaker 2: not that old.

1149
01:00:22,547 --> 01:00:24,987
Speaker 8: No, he was. He was a brilliant payer right up

1150
01:00:25,027 --> 01:00:27,347
Speaker 8: until you wonder, you know, in eighty nine when he

1151
01:00:27,747 --> 01:00:31,747
Speaker 8: was knee and Argentinians had he had the surgery, you know,

1152
01:00:32,187 --> 01:00:36,187
Speaker 8: genius are the genius methods they had nowadays, perhaps he

1153
01:00:36,227 --> 01:00:39,467
Speaker 8: would have continued in the you know, at the same

1154
01:00:39,547 --> 01:00:41,987
Speaker 8: high level, for it was still one of the displayers

1155
01:00:41,987 --> 01:00:45,147
Speaker 8: that we never had. But yeah, you always think what

1156
01:00:45,267 --> 01:00:48,627
Speaker 8: might have been a.

1157
01:00:47,747 --> 01:00:50,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a player. Hey, great shout, Brendan, another lose forward.

1158
01:00:50,667 --> 01:00:52,547
Speaker 2: Good on your mate. Loull if A Lous the teacher

1159
01:00:52,547 --> 01:00:53,987
Speaker 2: you can go on to get anywhere close to what

1160
01:00:54,027 --> 01:00:56,827
Speaker 2: Sir Michael Jones achieved, then I think he'll be pretty happy.

1161
01:00:56,867 --> 01:01:00,507
Speaker 2: Thanks mate. People have said Dan Carter on text, and

1162
01:01:00,627 --> 01:01:02,787
Speaker 2: people said the Lions series, well that was five. He

1163
01:01:03,107 --> 01:01:06,867
Speaker 2: came into the team, Dan Carter in three from memory,

1164
01:01:07,067 --> 01:01:08,787
Speaker 2: I'll check out. And it wasn't even at first five.

1165
01:01:08,827 --> 01:01:10,907
Speaker 2: It was at second five, wasn't it? Because Carlos Spencer

1166
01:01:10,987 --> 01:01:12,587
Speaker 2: was the first five then, and a bit of Andrew

1167
01:01:12,627 --> 01:01:15,267
Speaker 2: Mertins in there too, probably, But yeah, Dan Carter didn't

1168
01:01:15,307 --> 01:01:17,307
Speaker 2: really make his impact I don't think until he got

1169
01:01:17,307 --> 01:01:20,467
Speaker 2: in the ten jumper. And yeah, the Lion series obviously.

1170
01:01:21,147 --> 01:01:24,347
Speaker 2: Georgia Miller says Mars. Of course, she's another one, only

1171
01:01:24,347 --> 01:01:28,147
Speaker 2: twenty incredible, what a first season for her. Hello, Stephen,

1172
01:01:28,187 --> 01:01:29,667
Speaker 2: how are you?

1173
01:01:29,667 --> 01:01:30,147
Speaker 9: You get it?

1174
01:01:30,227 --> 01:01:30,547
Speaker 12: Jason?

1175
01:01:30,547 --> 01:01:33,187
Speaker 2: How are you great? Stephen? Great to hear from you, mate.

1176
01:01:34,147 --> 01:01:36,947
Speaker 8: I just want to say, first of all, person of

1177
01:01:36,987 --> 01:01:37,947
Speaker 8: all about the wardship?

1178
01:01:37,987 --> 01:01:40,147
Speaker 12: Forgot about how about is the Club of the aw

1179
01:01:40,147 --> 01:01:41,547
Speaker 12: about Green Island of Dunedin.

1180
01:01:42,027 --> 01:01:44,187
Speaker 2: I forgot to mention them. I'm glad you have, Stephen.

1181
01:01:45,267 --> 01:01:48,347
Speaker 12: Yes, So congratulations to Green Island anyway, Bud, you.

1182
01:01:48,387 --> 01:01:50,947
Speaker 2: Talk about the all Blacks. How about the name Goldie

1183
01:01:51,027 --> 01:01:55,227
Speaker 2: Jeff Wilson. Yes, Jeff, Well he sort of burst onto

1184
01:01:55,227 --> 01:01:57,867
Speaker 2: the scene sort of early nineties, didn't he. He got

1185
01:01:57,867 --> 01:02:00,827
Speaker 2: those three tries against Scotland from memory in his was

1186
01:02:00,867 --> 01:02:02,627
Speaker 2: it his debut test? Even you'd know, and then he

1187
01:02:02,707 --> 01:02:03,947
Speaker 2: kicked a sideline conversion.

1188
01:02:05,107 --> 01:02:07,027
Speaker 9: Yeah, so I'm just I'm just naming.

1189
01:02:07,107 --> 01:02:09,027
Speaker 8: How about Goldie Jim wasn't don't forget them.

1190
01:02:09,347 --> 01:02:11,747
Speaker 2: I will not forget Goldie, Stephen, I won't. What have

1191
01:02:11,787 --> 01:02:16,147
Speaker 2: your planned for the summer, mate, Well, hope I can

1192
01:02:16,227 --> 01:02:18,707
Speaker 2: quid be cool next week. Wish you yea the same, so.

1193
01:02:18,907 --> 01:02:20,907
Speaker 9: Hopefully wait for my cal next week.

1194
01:02:20,907 --> 01:02:23,787
Speaker 2: And I wish you I'm happy Christmas. Good on your Stephen.

1195
01:02:23,787 --> 01:02:25,387
Speaker 2: I wish you a happy Christmas. Team mate. If we

1196
01:02:25,387 --> 01:02:27,427
Speaker 2: don't get the chance to chat before Christmas, I wish

1197
01:02:27,467 --> 01:02:30,147
Speaker 2: you all the best as well. And in a big

1198
01:02:30,147 --> 01:02:32,067
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five for all of the sports teams that

1199
01:02:32,147 --> 01:02:35,587
Speaker 2: you support down there in Dunedin. Hoping for a big

1200
01:02:35,627 --> 01:02:37,787
Speaker 2: season from the Highlanders next year as well. I feel

1201
01:02:37,787 --> 01:02:39,587
Speaker 2: like they need to kind of yeah, I feel like

1202
01:02:39,587 --> 01:02:41,667
Speaker 2: the Highlanders need to start punching above their weight again.

1203
01:02:41,707 --> 01:02:44,107
Speaker 2: I'm sure you agree Stephen. I'm sure you agree. Maybe

1204
01:02:44,147 --> 01:02:46,307
Speaker 2: Jamie Joseph will have something to say about that in

1205
01:02:46,387 --> 01:02:49,107
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1206
01:02:49,187 --> 01:02:51,387
Speaker 2: or on text nine two ninety two. Has there ever

1207
01:02:51,427 --> 01:02:53,547
Speaker 2: been a bigger first year impact for the All Blacks

1208
01:02:53,667 --> 01:02:56,627
Speaker 2: or as big as Wallace to Titis. I think Michael

1209
01:02:56,707 --> 01:02:59,227
Speaker 2: Jones is a good shout. Yeah, eighty seven was his

1210
01:02:59,747 --> 01:03:04,347
Speaker 2: was his first was his first entrance into the All Blacks.

1211
01:03:04,387 --> 01:03:06,227
Speaker 2: I can't remember my so Michael Jame's playing for some

1212
01:03:06,547 --> 01:03:10,187
Speaker 2: I could be wrong, I could be totally wrong. Tom

1213
01:03:10,227 --> 01:03:12,747
Speaker 2: says Dan Carter scored twenty points against Wales and his

1214
01:03:12,827 --> 01:03:15,907
Speaker 2: debutiste I believe, Yeah, that could be right, I think Tom.

1215
01:03:15,907 --> 01:03:18,067
Speaker 2: I'll check that as well. But I don't know whether

1216
01:03:18,147 --> 01:03:20,987
Speaker 2: Dan Carter had the impact. I'm almost certainly he didn't

1217
01:03:21,027 --> 01:03:23,027
Speaker 2: win All Blacks Player of the Year in two thousand

1218
01:03:23,067 --> 01:03:24,987
Speaker 2: and three. Yeah, it was obvious who's a pretty special

1219
01:03:25,027 --> 01:03:26,987
Speaker 2: talent when he came in. I remember even when he

1220
01:03:26,987 --> 01:03:29,747
Speaker 2: came into the Crusader side and Super rugby. I don't

1221
01:03:29,747 --> 01:03:32,467
Speaker 2: think he was playing ten there either. I think he

1222
01:03:32,827 --> 01:03:34,747
Speaker 2: was one out in the twelve Jersey then as well,

1223
01:03:34,787 --> 01:03:37,107
Speaker 2: and all there was all this talk about this kid,

1224
01:03:37,427 --> 01:03:39,507
Speaker 2: Dan Carter out of christ Church and how good he

1225
01:03:39,547 --> 01:03:41,347
Speaker 2: was and how good he was going to be. And

1226
01:03:41,667 --> 01:03:43,147
Speaker 2: you know, you hear that a lot, don't you, about

1227
01:03:43,187 --> 01:03:46,187
Speaker 2: players and lots of sports. You know, this person's the

1228
01:03:46,187 --> 01:03:48,347
Speaker 2: next big thing. She's going to be amazing, He's going

1229
01:03:48,387 --> 01:03:50,027
Speaker 2: to be fantastic, He's going to do this, that the

1230
01:03:50,027 --> 01:03:55,907
Speaker 2: other thing. But yeah, it proved to be the case

1231
01:03:55,947 --> 01:03:59,107
Speaker 2: for Dan Carter. Jonah Lomuo has been mentioned here. I

1232
01:03:59,107 --> 01:04:01,947
Speaker 2: think in ninety four he would freely admit he wasn't

1233
01:04:02,187 --> 01:04:06,107
Speaker 2: quite ready when he made those When he debuted as

1234
01:04:06,147 --> 01:04:07,867
Speaker 2: a I think he was still the youngest ever All

1235
01:04:07,907 --> 01:04:11,387
Speaker 2: Black against France and two Tests, both of which we lost.

1236
01:04:12,227 --> 01:04:15,307
Speaker 2: But then obviously nineteen ninety five, when Jonah did win

1237
01:04:16,307 --> 01:04:20,347
Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby Player of the Year the Kel Tremaine Trophy.

1238
01:04:20,627 --> 01:04:22,547
Speaker 2: As I mentioned before, he was the youngest ever. Wonder

1239
01:04:22,587 --> 01:04:25,387
Speaker 2: Robert still is. He must have still been nineteen or

1240
01:04:25,427 --> 01:04:27,827
Speaker 2: twenty in nineteen ninety five, but in terms of his

1241
01:04:27,907 --> 01:04:32,547
Speaker 2: first year, not quite the impact. But then, I mean,

1242
01:04:33,147 --> 01:04:35,347
Speaker 2: and it goes to show just how difficult it is

1243
01:04:35,827 --> 01:04:37,827
Speaker 2: if Jonah lom who can't make an impact in his

1244
01:04:37,907 --> 01:04:40,627
Speaker 2: first year. Then the fact that Wallace Tatiti has in

1245
01:04:40,667 --> 01:04:44,947
Speaker 2: this fashion at around about the same age is just astonishing. Really,

1246
01:04:45,667 --> 01:04:48,587
Speaker 2: we're forgetting Jonah, says this text. Not forgetting Jonah. Absolutely

1247
01:04:48,627 --> 01:04:55,547
Speaker 2: not forgetting Jonah. But strictly speaking, his impact began in

1248
01:04:55,627 --> 01:04:58,987
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five, not nineteen ninety four when he made

1249
01:04:58,987 --> 01:05:01,467
Speaker 2: his Test daybook. Happy to debate it with you though,

1250
01:05:01,507 --> 01:05:03,667
Speaker 2: twenty nine away from one will keep the lines open

1251
01:05:04,027 --> 01:05:06,787
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Andrew murh in the

1252
01:05:06,867 --> 01:05:09,747
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five season says this one. Yeah, we came in,

1253
01:05:09,787 --> 01:05:13,347
Speaker 2: didn't he and took over the ten jumper for the

1254
01:05:13,387 --> 01:05:15,627
Speaker 2: Rugby World Cup. Josh Cromfeld was the other one in

1255
01:05:15,707 --> 01:05:18,587
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five. I think who Laurie mains through trustin

1256
01:05:19,507 --> 01:05:24,547
Speaker 2: Andrew Mertins and Josh Cronfeld. Yep, two good shouts. Keep

1257
01:05:24,587 --> 01:05:26,267
Speaker 2: them coming. I W eight one hundred eighty ten eighty

1258
01:05:26,347 --> 01:05:28,067
Speaker 2: nine two nine to two on text, I want to talk

1259
01:05:28,107 --> 01:05:29,987
Speaker 2: the cricket as well. If you'd like eight minutes away

1260
01:05:30,027 --> 01:05:34,427
Speaker 2: from from a resumption in the second session of the

1261
01:05:34,467 --> 01:05:37,907
Speaker 2: Third Test in Hamilton, if you've caught any of Latham

1262
01:05:37,907 --> 01:05:40,947
Speaker 2: and Young's batting this morning. Love to hear from you Australia. Meantime,

1263
01:05:41,027 --> 01:05:45,227
Speaker 2: are in against India at the Gabba. Usemond Kowaja and

1264
01:05:45,307 --> 01:05:47,947
Speaker 2: Nathan McSweeney have opened the batting having been sent in

1265
01:05:48,027 --> 01:05:50,947
Speaker 2: by India and have safely negotiated the first three overs.

1266
01:05:51,107 --> 01:05:53,227
Speaker 2: They are six without loss I eight one hundred eighty

1267
01:05:53,227 --> 01:05:54,987
Speaker 2: ten eighty nine two nine two on text back after

1268
01:05:55,027 --> 01:05:56,987
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Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your home of Sport Weekend

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Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Van and GJ Gunners, New Zealand's most

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Speaker 2: News DOGZB twenty four away from two four minutes a

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Speaker 2: wad from the second session getting underway in Hamilton at

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Speaker 2: Sedon Park, of course, a very good start for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Ninety three without loss at lunch. Will they carry on

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Speaker 2: in similar fashion? Will keep you updated across the next

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Speaker 2: a little while on that and Australia underway against India

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Speaker 2: in their Third Test at the Gabba and their safety

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Speaker 2: through to thirteen without loss. It wasman Kawaja with an

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Speaker 2: early boundary. Nathan McSweeney is alongside as they negotiate the

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Speaker 2: first session of the Third Test in Hamilton. We're talking

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Speaker 2: impacts early as an all black Wallace Atiti. We can't

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Speaker 2: do much better than player of the Year, not just

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Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year, but All Blacks player of the Year.

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Speaker 2: In your first season. We've had a few come through here.

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Speaker 2: Taner Umanga hit the ground running, says this one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: on the wing initially, wasn't he was a winger when

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Speaker 2: he first came into the team. Tana Umanger eventually moved

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Speaker 2: into the centers, where he became one of our absolute greats.

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Speaker 2: Color unquestionably says this one. Hello, Jason, Brian Williams beg. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a little bit before my time, unfortunately, but I know

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Speaker 2: that he I'm here. I mean, amazing career over one

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Speaker 2: hundred matches for the All Blacks b G. Initially, he

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Speaker 2: clearly was a was a player who made an impact.

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Speaker 2: Jason unsure if will Jordan had a good first season

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Speaker 2: with the All Blacks, but there was a lot of

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Speaker 2: talk about him as he was coming through the school system.

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Speaker 2: From memory, I think he did have a good first

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Speaker 2: season with the All Blacks when he de Burg. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 2: his try scoring thief. Your test has try scoring would

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Speaker 2: suggest that he's he's been scoring them since the start,

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Speaker 2: hasn't he. Well, Jordan, I'll check his I'll check his

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Speaker 2: stats from early on. You know, he is unquestionably going

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Speaker 2: to beat Doug Howlett's forty nine Test tries. See out

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Speaker 2: to Mauth thirty seven thirty eight tries now from memory. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he'll get there, he'll get there. But yeah, another guy

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Speaker 2: who made an impact earlier. Richie McCaw says Alfonso. He

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Speaker 2: was Man of the match in his first Test against Ireland.

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Speaker 2: I think I think you did right, Alfonso two thousand

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Speaker 2: and one. I think Richie McCaw made his debut. So yep,

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Speaker 2: another one there, Wallace. Though I think I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I could be wrong. Maybe your foaking chiefs Country can

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Speaker 2: correct me here, But I'm not sure that there has

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Speaker 2: been a lot of that kind of early noise about

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Speaker 2: Wallace Atti coming through with Richie McCaw. You listened to

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Speaker 2: the famous story about how Canterbury effectively stole Richie McCaw

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Speaker 2: from Otago. It was Otago, boys, wasn't he. But Steve Hansen,

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Speaker 2: on first look at Richie McCaw said, we've got to

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Speaker 2: get this bloke, and they did and went on to

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Speaker 2: be one of, you know, one of, if not the

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Speaker 2: greatest door Black of all time. But there was a

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Speaker 2: lot of male around about him early Piney won. About

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Speaker 2: pine Tree, I'm sure he made an impact from the start.

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Speaker 2: I'm voids you didn't see it. If you did, I'd

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Speaker 2: love to chat to you. But but with Wallace, I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure that there was all this noise around about him.

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Speaker 2: In fact, was he he was even just a fringe

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Speaker 2: player in the Chiefs. I was looking back at his

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Speaker 2: Super Rugby matches this season for the Chiefs and while

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Speaker 2: he finished exceptionally strongly, he did not start a game

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Speaker 2: for the Chiefs until round seven. Luke Jacobson was playing

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Speaker 2: number eight for the Chiefs and rightly so he's established

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Speaker 2: player captain well co captain. Certainly he played number eight

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Speaker 2: for the first six matches and then when they played

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Speaker 2: more Wana Pacifica, which was a game where a bunch

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Speaker 2: of players were given a rest, including Luke Jacobson, Wallace

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Speaker 2: a TT came in and made his starting debut. He

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Speaker 2: had previously featured off the bench against the Reds and

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Speaker 2: against the Highlanders, but there was his first start against

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Speaker 2: Mowanna Pacifica and from there he hardly missed a game. Jacobson,

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Speaker 2: when he came back into the team, had to go

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Speaker 2: to open side to keep Satiti there. Even played a

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Speaker 2: bit of number six from memory but later on in

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Speaker 2: the season Luke Jacobson. But Wallace a Titi wasn't even

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Speaker 2: part of the first choice chief side in the mind

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Speaker 2: of Clayton McMillan for a long time. But what an impact,

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Speaker 2: What an impact, Artie Saviller says this text. Yep, that's

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Speaker 2: another good shout. Yeah, Artie was a guy who made

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Speaker 2: a pretty big impact in his first season. He's been

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Speaker 2: popular from the start, isn't he. Yeah, just can't wait

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Speaker 2: to see what Wallace to Titi gets up to, you

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Speaker 2: know he as I say, without wanting to put the

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Speaker 2: cart before the horse or pumper blokes tires up too much.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty good foundation, isn't it? Pretty good Springboard

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Speaker 2: All Blacks Player of the Year, World Breakthrough Player of

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Speaker 2: the Year. Who knows what he might go on to

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Speaker 2: achieve in the years ahead. Nineteen away from too. They're

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Speaker 2: just about to make their way back out onto Seddon

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Speaker 2: Park when we come back though, we're across the Tasman.

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Speaker 2: Adam Peacock, our regular Australian correspondent talking at PNG the

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Speaker 2: NRL Talking Test cricket and talking a bit of pressure

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Speaker 2: on Australian Premier League football manager and Posta Cooglu. All

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Speaker 2: of that are more with Adam Peacock when we come

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Speaker 2: back on Weekend Sport.

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Speaker 1: The big issues on and after Field Call eight hundred

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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason.

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Speaker 4: Tame and GJ.

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Speaker 1: Gunnerhomes New Zealand's first trusted home builder.

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Speaker 4: News Talks at BB.

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Speaker 2: Coming up one forty five on News Talks. There'll be

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Speaker 2: a big part of our Saturdays is our regular catch

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Speaker 2: up with Australian correspondent Adam Peacock, who joins us now, Adam,

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Speaker 2: let's start with the rugby league confirmation this week that

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Speaker 2: Papua New Guinea will join the NRL from twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: This has been widely telegraphed, of course it's now been confirmed.

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Speaker 2: How has this been received and what do you make

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Speaker 2: of it PNG joining the NRL?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Gelay Pinney, it's split, very much split an opinion

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Speaker 13: because it's a political football as much as a rugby

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Speaker 13: league football that we're talking about, and it's because the

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Speaker 13: Australian government has said, well, give you six hundred million

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Speaker 13: dollars over ten years, if you go and do this thing, now,

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Speaker 13: would this all be happening without that? I doubt it

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Speaker 13: very much. Does that mean PNG doesn't like its rugby league, No,

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Speaker 13: far from it, complete opposite. They that's sort of the

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Speaker 13: obsess over the sport up there. But somehow we've ended

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Speaker 13: up in this situation where we're actually putting a team there.

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Speaker 13: And yes, look you can tell that there's a a

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Speaker 13: like a above and beyond tone to it, all to

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Speaker 13: attract players in the sense that I'll go up there

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Speaker 13: and not have to pay tax, So that says a lot.

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Speaker 13: I just have an uneasy feeling about it that. Okay,

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Speaker 13: say a politician comes in in four years and goes, well,

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Speaker 13: what's all this about? This is ridiculous, and then after

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Speaker 13: the ten it's done or halfway through they pull the funding,

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Speaker 13: as politicians can change their minds. So yeah, it's a

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Speaker 13: precarious one. I'm not totally comfortable with it, but some

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Speaker 13: people are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's part of an expansion of the NRL,

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Speaker 2: which I think I read they want to get to

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Speaker 2: twenty teams either by the year twenty thirty or the

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Speaker 2: year twenty thirty two. Over here in New Zealand. We're

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Speaker 2: obviously very keen to have a second franchise. W are

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Speaker 2: the other candidates around the place for further expansion. Could

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Speaker 2: there be a team in Perth, for example, then in Adelaide,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, they're looking at Perth, they're definitely looking in Southeast

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Speaker 13: Queensland again, and they're looking in New Zealand. Now. I

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Speaker 13: know regularly people look down upon football as a as

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Speaker 13: a second third class citizen in this part of the world,

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Speaker 13: but they shouldn't because they should be looking at what's

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Speaker 13: going on at Auckland with the A League and think,

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Speaker 13: oh wow, this could actually work on the South Island

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Speaker 13: as a munch is on the North Island in reverse

1432
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Speaker 13: of what happened. I mean, you were there last week.

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Speaker 13: It's an apod case in points. So yeah, I'd hope

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Speaker 13: that they deeply consider a second New Zealand franchise and

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Speaker 13: if that's going to make they include a Pacific element

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Speaker 13: to it all as well. That I don't think is

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Speaker 13: a bad thing, because you want to you want to

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Speaker 13: grow the game in the Pacific, because it seems like

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Speaker 13: some are Tonga are showing things in international football. So yeah,

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Speaker 13: hopefully it's an open book when it comes to the

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Speaker 13: next two decisions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we hope so too. Alright, let's get to Test cricket.

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Speaker 2: The Australia India series has landed in Brisbane for the

1444
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Speaker 2: third Test and they are comfortable winners in Perth, Australia,

1445
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Speaker 2: comfortable winners in Adelaide. What do you predict for the

1446
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Speaker 2: next five days at the Gabba?

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Speaker 13: That it probably won't go five days because the bowl,

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Speaker 13: the bowling is too good unless it rains, like there's

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Speaker 13: a bit of weather around Brisbane this time of the year.

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Speaker 13: In terms of like four o'clock you're looking up at sky,

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01:15:56,267 --> 01:15:58,747
Speaker 13: I don't know if he comes today's store. So yeah,

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Speaker 13: the weather might play a part, but I can't see. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: with the likes of all Right Commens Hazelwood Stark in

1454
01:16:09,307 --> 01:16:15,347
Speaker 13: the mix, you're hard pressed to find better fast bowling

1455
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Speaker 13: in the last twenty thirty years. So how this goes

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01:16:19,307 --> 01:16:22,547
Speaker 13: on for five days I doubt how it ends up,

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01:16:22,787 --> 01:16:25,427
Speaker 13: I don't know because both teams have sharded. Once they've

1458
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Speaker 13: got momentum in a game, they've put the foot down

1459
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Speaker 13: and totally outplayed the other one. So there's no reason

1460
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Speaker 13: to say that it can't happen in this Test with

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Speaker 13: India and they do what they did in Perth. Conversely,

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Speaker 13: exactly the same for Australia did dubble up on Adelaide.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fascinating series. They seem pretty evenly matched

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01:16:43,587 --> 01:16:48,667
Speaker 2: these two, and I guess the series score would suggest that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's as it. I mean, cricket's obviously the biggest game

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Speaker 2: in town and summer over there are people really into this,

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Speaker 2: a lot of eyeballs on it.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Yeah, it's big, it's big, and they don't Actually,

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Speaker 13: I've got to give create Australia that are rap here.

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Speaker 13: They've done really well with their programming this year in

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Speaker 13: the sense of put some big women's matches on. They've

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Speaker 13: had just had a serious against India. I think our

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01:17:11,027 --> 01:17:13,267
Speaker 13: women's team is heading over to play you guys in

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01:17:13,787 --> 01:17:16,747
Speaker 13: three one days. Around that, you've got big batch starting

1475
01:17:16,747 --> 01:17:18,787
Speaker 13: this weekend, and around that you've got the Test series,

1476
01:17:18,827 --> 01:17:20,427
Speaker 13: which feels like a focal point at the moment, and

1477
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Speaker 13: then there's a women's ashes at the end. So it's

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01:17:23,147 --> 01:17:26,707
Speaker 13: really well mapped out and it is huge. It is

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01:17:26,747 --> 01:17:30,907
Speaker 13: absolutely huge, and you're right too, even seems like it's uncanny.

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Speaker 13: We've we've got two really attacking number five bats and

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Speaker 13: in the head and part we've got two legends of

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01:17:37,307 --> 01:17:39,987
Speaker 13: the game at number four who were scratching around to

1483
01:17:39,987 --> 01:17:41,867
Speaker 13: find their best verit cold, we found it in Perth

1484
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Speaker 13: and Steve Smith find it here. You've got question marks

1485
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Speaker 13: at the top of the order with young players coming

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Speaker 13: in Joyce Well McSweeney so and then the bowling units

1487
01:17:50,027 --> 01:17:52,947
Speaker 13: as well. Yes, it's it's a great matchup.

1488
01:17:53,827 --> 01:17:57,027
Speaker 2: And finally to the Premier League, where Ange Pasta Koglu,

1489
01:17:57,787 --> 01:18:00,107
Speaker 2: one of your finest, if not the finest football manager

1490
01:18:00,387 --> 01:18:03,987
Speaker 2: of all time is at the moment, I guess an

1491
01:18:04,427 --> 01:18:07,667
Speaker 2: interesting position with Tottenham there eleventh in the Premier League,

1492
01:18:07,707 --> 01:18:11,347
Speaker 2: twenty points from their fifteen games, fifteen points behind the leaders.

1493
01:18:11,667 --> 01:18:14,747
Speaker 2: Liverpool are one old drawer in the Europa League. In

1494
01:18:14,787 --> 01:18:17,267
Speaker 2: the last couple of days it Rangers. I see Nge

1495
01:18:17,267 --> 01:18:20,067
Speaker 2: came out and fight a shot at as German striker

1496
01:18:20,427 --> 01:18:21,787
Speaker 2: Timo Werner.

1497
01:18:21,747 --> 01:18:26,667
Speaker 11: Is n under a bit of pressure, Yeah, yeah, a bit.

1498
01:18:27,227 --> 01:18:30,147
Speaker 13: I don't think it's job defining just yet. I don't

1499
01:18:30,187 --> 01:18:32,827
Speaker 13: think one results going to twisted either way. But it's

1500
01:18:32,827 --> 01:18:37,147
Speaker 13: five without them win up pumping Manchester City. But before

1501
01:18:37,187 --> 01:18:40,027
Speaker 13: that it was up and down stuff from Tottenham, and

1502
01:18:40,067 --> 01:18:44,067
Speaker 13: that's the frustration that they show their brilliant best and

1503
01:18:44,107 --> 01:18:47,507
Speaker 13: then don't back it up. Now, I don't care where

1504
01:18:47,547 --> 01:18:50,547
Speaker 13: you are in life, if you're inconsistent about it, you're

1505
01:18:50,587 --> 01:18:53,107
Speaker 13: going to frustrate people. And that's what's happening with Dottenham

1506
01:18:53,187 --> 01:18:56,107
Speaker 13: fans at the moment. And everyone else is not a

1507
01:18:56,187 --> 01:18:59,067
Speaker 13: Tottenham fan sense to be able to laugh at them

1508
01:18:59,227 --> 01:19:03,347
Speaker 13: very easily, which is there those things happen, But and

1509
01:19:03,387 --> 01:19:05,627
Speaker 13: how he finds the best from his side, I'm not sure.

1510
01:19:05,627 --> 01:19:09,547
Speaker 13: I watched that game yesterday and they were far from

1511
01:19:09,547 --> 01:19:11,347
Speaker 13: their best. They just look a bit can't give a

1512
01:19:11,427 --> 01:19:14,707
Speaker 13: bit of unsure of themselves. And people picked up on

1513
01:19:14,747 --> 01:19:17,267
Speaker 13: it last year that if as loses one or two

1514
01:19:17,347 --> 01:19:22,147
Speaker 13: of his best center backs, oddly enough, that's that's a

1515
01:19:22,147 --> 01:19:25,747
Speaker 13: bit of a big factor for him because that they

1516
01:19:25,787 --> 01:19:30,747
Speaker 13: are asked to make huge decisions quickly because they that's

1517
01:19:30,787 --> 01:19:34,667
Speaker 13: a paler attitude when they copper a transition. Those two

1518
01:19:34,667 --> 01:19:36,987
Speaker 13: center backs have to come in and make a big

1519
01:19:37,027 --> 01:19:39,907
Speaker 13: play all the time and if that timing's off, then

1520
01:19:39,907 --> 01:19:41,587
Speaker 13: they're going to look stupid. And that's what's happened a

1521
01:19:41,587 --> 01:19:44,187
Speaker 13: few times to Tottenham and I can't see changing because

1522
01:19:44,187 --> 01:19:46,347
Speaker 13: those two center Backsvan e End and Ramira haven't been

1523
01:19:46,387 --> 01:19:49,707
Speaker 13: readily available all the time. So Southampton this week weekend

1524
01:19:49,787 --> 01:19:53,027
Speaker 13: they've got a League Cup quarter final against Matchester United

1525
01:19:53,107 --> 01:19:55,947
Speaker 13: and then Liverpool next weekend. I think by Christmas will

1526
01:19:55,947 --> 01:19:58,867
Speaker 13: know exactly where Am stands for now.

1527
01:19:58,747 --> 01:20:02,667
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, absolutely, well, it's it's it's under the harsh

1528
01:20:02,707 --> 01:20:05,267
Speaker 2: glare over there as we as we all know, Adam.

1529
01:20:05,307 --> 01:20:07,067
Speaker 2: Great to get the chest to check. Here's always about

1530
01:20:07,067 --> 01:20:09,867
Speaker 2: Australian sport, and enjoy your weekend. We'll catch up again

1531
01:20:09,907 --> 01:20:11,867
Speaker 2: one more time before Christmas. Next Saturday.

1532
01:20:12,627 --> 01:20:14,227
Speaker 13: Sounds good, Thanks body, No, thanks Adam.

1533
01:20:14,267 --> 01:20:18,027
Speaker 2: Adam Peacock, our regular Australian correspondent here on News Talks.

1534
01:20:18,027 --> 01:20:20,227
Speaker 2: There'd be on Saturday afternoons, just on seven and a

1535
01:20:20,267 --> 01:20:22,907
Speaker 2: half to two updating you from the cricket where New

1536
01:20:22,987 --> 01:20:25,107
Speaker 2: Zealand had moved safely through to one hundred and five

1537
01:20:25,187 --> 01:20:28,547
Speaker 2: without loss. Tom Latham there on forty eight, Will Young

1538
01:20:28,587 --> 01:20:30,987
Speaker 2: on forty two. And just as I say that Will

1539
01:20:31,067 --> 01:20:34,027
Speaker 2: Young has edged one into the slips and has been dismissed.

1540
01:20:34,707 --> 01:20:36,867
Speaker 2: So Will Young is the first man out for New

1541
01:20:36,987 --> 01:20:40,227
Speaker 2: Zealand one hundred and five for one. They are so

1542
01:20:40,387 --> 01:20:43,107
Speaker 2: having done all the hard work and got himself in

1543
01:20:43,147 --> 01:20:46,067
Speaker 2: and ground out a couple of hours in the first session,

1544
01:20:46,147 --> 01:20:49,507
Speaker 2: he's unable to make hay and Will Young caught at

1545
01:20:49,707 --> 01:20:54,707
Speaker 2: second slip by Harry brook Off the bowling of bright

1546
01:20:54,787 --> 01:20:57,147
Speaker 2: and cast by the looks of things, and he is

1547
01:20:57,187 --> 01:21:00,107
Speaker 2: back to the pavilion. More on that to come seven away.

1548
01:21:00,107 --> 01:21:02,027
Speaker 2: In fact, it was that Atkinson Gus Akinson who was

1549
01:21:02,027 --> 01:21:04,107
Speaker 2: a bowler. More to come seven to two. News Talks.

1550
01:21:06,387 --> 01:21:09,027
Speaker 1: From the track, field and the court on your home

1551
01:21:09,107 --> 01:21:12,027
Speaker 1: of Sport Weekend Sport with Jason Vine.

1552
01:21:12,147 --> 01:21:14,547
Speaker 2: News Talks a b just on four to two After

1553
01:21:14,587 --> 01:21:17,787
Speaker 2: two big focus on football Phoenix MacArthur this afternoon, Stefan

1554
01:21:17,827 --> 01:21:20,987
Speaker 2: Kolakowski out of the Phoenix camp and former Phoenix defender

1555
01:21:20,987 --> 01:21:23,307
Speaker 2: Finn Sermon these days playing in the United States. He's

1556
01:21:23,307 --> 01:21:25,587
Speaker 2: home for the holiday break. He's going to join us

1557
01:21:25,587 --> 01:21:28,627
Speaker 2: for a chat too. And Paul Temple, Wellington Phoenix women's coach.

1558
01:21:28,667 --> 01:21:31,587
Speaker 2: After their excellent one old drawl last night with Melbourne victory.

1559
01:21:31,987 --> 01:21:34,307
Speaker 2: We'll catch you up with in case you missed it

1560
01:21:34,427 --> 01:21:36,227
Speaker 2: after two and also before we knock it on the

1561
01:21:36,267 --> 01:21:39,147
Speaker 2: head at three o'clock. We're back to Hamilton Andrew Ordison

1562
01:21:39,187 --> 01:21:41,787
Speaker 2: on day one of the Third cricket Test as well.

1563
01:21:42,747 --> 01:21:46,987
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

1564
01:21:47,667 --> 01:21:52,667
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1565
01:21:52,707 --> 01:21:56,507
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vine on your home of Sport

1566
01:21:56,947 --> 01:21:57,787
Speaker 1: News Talks AB.

1567
01:21:59,427 --> 01:22:01,827
Speaker 2: Hello there, welcome in, Welcome back, Good to have you

1568
01:22:01,907 --> 01:22:06,267
Speaker 2: with us. Another hour of weekend Sport for Andy mc

1569
01:22:06,427 --> 01:22:08,307
Speaker 2: donald and me, and then we'll hand it over to

1570
01:22:08,307 --> 01:22:11,387
Speaker 2: Tim Beveridge for the Weekend Collective Saturday edition seven past

1571
01:22:11,427 --> 01:22:13,867
Speaker 2: two seven Park and Hamilton. Tom lath them forty nine

1572
01:22:13,947 --> 01:22:16,467
Speaker 2: not out came Williamson unbeaten on four New Zealand one

1573
01:22:16,547 --> 01:22:18,827
Speaker 2: hundred and twelve for one, batting first against England. Having

1574
01:22:18,867 --> 01:22:21,667
Speaker 2: been sent in on the first day of the Third Test.

1575
01:22:22,147 --> 01:22:25,347
Speaker 2: Tom Latham approaching what will be his thirty first half

1576
01:22:25,387 --> 01:22:28,467
Speaker 2: century in Test matches. So a good start will young

1577
01:22:28,507 --> 01:22:30,227
Speaker 2: the man out for forty two. As you heard from

1578
01:22:30,227 --> 01:22:33,347
Speaker 2: Weino in our news. We'll keep eyes on that for

1579
01:22:33,427 --> 01:22:35,667
Speaker 2: you and on the Gabba as well, where it's the

1580
01:22:35,707 --> 01:22:38,307
Speaker 2: first day of the Third Test as well between Australia

1581
01:22:38,387 --> 01:22:40,627
Speaker 2: and India. Although I believe it to be raining there

1582
01:22:40,627 --> 01:22:43,427
Speaker 2: at the moment. They're off the field nineteen without loss,

1583
01:22:43,667 --> 01:22:46,387
Speaker 2: Australia batting first, having been cented to baut by India.

1584
01:22:46,867 --> 01:22:50,307
Speaker 2: Kawaja and McSweeney together at the crease, will keep you

1585
01:22:50,787 --> 01:22:54,987
Speaker 2: updated on the state of play or otherwise. Over in Brisbane.

1586
01:22:55,627 --> 01:22:58,667
Speaker 2: This our football is firmly our focus as we look

1587
01:22:58,667 --> 01:23:01,587
Speaker 2: ahead to the Wellington Phoenix's ability to bounce back from

1588
01:23:01,667 --> 01:23:05,387
Speaker 2: Darby defeat a week ago in Auckland. They're back home.

1589
01:23:05,427 --> 01:23:07,027
Speaker 2: It's sky Stadium for the first time at about a

1590
01:23:07,027 --> 01:23:11,067
Speaker 2: month actually taking on MacArthur five o'clock kick off this afternoon.

1591
01:23:11,107 --> 01:23:15,387
Speaker 2: Going to hear from Wellington Phoenix attacker Stefan Kolakowski and

1592
01:23:15,427 --> 01:23:17,547
Speaker 2: also Finn Sermon, who of course was a big part

1593
01:23:17,547 --> 01:23:20,427
Speaker 2: of the Phoenix's success last season, so much so that

1594
01:23:20,507 --> 01:23:23,107
Speaker 2: he earned a move to the United States. He plays

1595
01:23:23,147 --> 01:23:25,907
Speaker 2: these days for the Portland Timbers. They're in their off season.

1596
01:23:25,947 --> 01:23:27,547
Speaker 2: Those who's home for Christmas and he's going to be

1597
01:23:27,547 --> 01:23:29,227
Speaker 2: at the game this afternoon. Going to join us for

1598
01:23:29,227 --> 01:23:30,987
Speaker 2: a bit of a yarn and the win. Welling to

1599
01:23:31,027 --> 01:23:34,747
Speaker 2: Phoenix women last night had their first ever or got

1600
01:23:34,747 --> 01:23:37,547
Speaker 2: their first ever point in the state of Victoria. They've

1601
01:23:37,547 --> 01:23:42,107
Speaker 2: been to Melbourne seven times for seven losses prior to

1602
01:23:42,147 --> 01:23:44,347
Speaker 2: last night. A last minute equalizes that got them at

1603
01:23:44,347 --> 01:23:46,667
Speaker 2: one Old Row against Melbourne victory. Their coach Paul Temple

1604
01:23:47,227 --> 01:23:49,307
Speaker 2: is with us. Sam will keep you across the cricket

1605
01:23:49,307 --> 01:23:52,427
Speaker 2: back to Seddon Park with Andrew Ordison at some stage

1606
01:23:52,467 --> 01:23:54,267
Speaker 2: before three o'clock. You can get in touch with the

1607
01:23:54,267 --> 01:23:56,707
Speaker 2: show in all the usual ways. Oh eight hundred and

1608
01:23:56,747 --> 01:23:59,067
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty gets you throw on the phone, send

1609
01:23:59,107 --> 01:24:01,067
Speaker 2: you texts after nine two, nine and two or on

1610
01:24:01,147 --> 01:24:04,867
Speaker 2: email Jason at NEWSTALKSEB dot co dot nz coming up

1611
01:24:04,947 --> 01:24:07,067
Speaker 2: nine past two. As we always do it around about

1612
01:24:07,067 --> 01:24:10,187
Speaker 2: this time on weekend sport, let's get you up to

1613
01:24:10,227 --> 01:24:11,787
Speaker 2: date with some of the stuff you might have missed.

1614
01:24:12,707 --> 01:24:14,747
Speaker 2: We call it in case you missed it and it

1615
01:24:15,067 --> 01:24:20,307
Speaker 2: basically updates you. Starting with the Australian Basketball League, the

1616
01:24:20,347 --> 01:24:24,507
Speaker 2: Illawarra Hawks have issued an ominous warning to the rest

1617
01:24:24,547 --> 01:24:27,947
Speaker 2: of the league, trouncing top of the table Melbourne United

1618
01:24:27,987 --> 01:24:31,787
Speaker 2: one six ninety three on their home court and replacing

1619
01:24:31,827 --> 01:24:33,347
Speaker 2: them at the top of the NBL ladder.

1620
01:24:33,947 --> 01:24:37,467
Speaker 10: If you didn't believe already in Justin Tatum's group, then

1621
01:24:37,507 --> 01:24:38,987
Speaker 10: you absolutely should now.

1622
01:24:40,507 --> 01:24:41,907
Speaker 2: The Hawks are the.

1623
01:24:41,787 --> 01:24:44,027
Speaker 14: Real deal in NBL twenty five.

1624
01:24:44,547 --> 01:24:47,827
Speaker 4: Revenge is a dish best self cold.

1625
01:24:49,267 --> 01:24:51,827
Speaker 3: And the Hawks have executed a.

1626
01:24:51,907 --> 01:24:53,747
Speaker 2: Cold blooded killing at the.

1627
01:24:53,787 --> 01:24:56,507
Speaker 12: Latter, leading Melbourne United tonight one o.

1628
01:24:56,707 --> 01:25:01,147
Speaker 2: Six to ninety three. They were set sational back close

1629
01:25:01,187 --> 01:25:04,027
Speaker 2: to home. American Taylor nib has won a third straight

1630
01:25:04,067 --> 01:25:06,827
Speaker 2: title in the Iron Man seventy point three World Champs.

1631
01:25:07,387 --> 01:25:09,587
Speaker 2: She forged out to a lead of almost five minutes

1632
01:25:09,587 --> 01:25:13,067
Speaker 2: on the bike held on to beat England's Cat Matthews

1633
01:25:13,107 --> 01:25:15,587
Speaker 2: by one minute fifteen seconds on the run with help

1634
01:25:15,627 --> 01:25:16,947
Speaker 2: from the big, big crowd.

1635
01:25:16,987 --> 01:25:18,587
Speaker 15: There was no one on the bike course pretty much,

1636
01:25:18,587 --> 01:25:20,307
Speaker 15: but then everyone was on the run course, so I

1637
01:25:20,307 --> 01:25:21,627
Speaker 15: don't think it was like a step of the course

1638
01:25:21,627 --> 01:25:24,347
Speaker 15: where you didn't have people like supporting you and cheering,

1639
01:25:24,427 --> 01:25:26,507
Speaker 15: and it was just like wow, like this is an

1640
01:25:26,507 --> 01:25:28,787
Speaker 15: impressive community and so thank you to everyone who's out

1641
01:25:28,787 --> 01:25:30,427
Speaker 15: there in supporting the football.

1642
01:25:30,507 --> 01:25:33,947
Speaker 2: Adelaide have remained unbeaten in the A League Men's competition,

1643
01:25:34,187 --> 01:25:37,067
Speaker 2: trouncing the defending champion Mariners.

1644
01:25:36,587 --> 01:25:40,387
Speaker 14: Inviting d' coolie into the game against Rue de Cooley.

1645
01:25:40,507 --> 01:25:44,987
Speaker 14: Still still the shut off the post and end welcome

1646
01:25:44,987 --> 01:25:48,027
Speaker 14: back to the A League. Yeah d' cooley six minutes

1647
01:25:48,067 --> 01:25:50,667
Speaker 14: after coming on for his first appearance of the season

1648
01:25:50,867 --> 01:25:53,147
Speaker 14: and he's celebrating gold number four of the.

1649
01:25:53,107 --> 01:25:55,947
Speaker 2: Evening for Adelaide. Here four in l Adelaide over the Mariners.

1650
01:25:55,947 --> 01:25:58,347
Speaker 2: Meantime has just mentioned. The Wellington Phoenix women have scored

1651
01:25:58,387 --> 01:26:02,147
Speaker 2: a last gasp goal to draw one one with Melbourne

1652
01:26:02,227 --> 01:26:04,027
Speaker 2: victory in the A League women's.

1653
01:26:03,907 --> 01:26:08,027
Speaker 5: Back otter the right flank Emma Main provider water Grass.

1654
01:26:08,187 --> 01:26:12,027
Speaker 5: What an equaliser it's Mania Ralliot for the Phoenix.

1655
01:26:12,427 --> 01:26:13,587
Speaker 2: McCutcheon's pass.

1656
01:26:13,787 --> 01:26:15,867
Speaker 5: Knew that Maine was out on the wing and Maine,

1657
01:26:15,867 --> 01:26:18,507
Speaker 5: who'd been sitting up centrally, drifted out to the wing

1658
01:26:18,547 --> 01:26:19,787
Speaker 5: and that is a bullet header.

1659
01:26:19,987 --> 01:26:22,547
Speaker 2: He had teenage substitute and Elliott heading home in the

1660
01:26:22,627 --> 01:26:25,067
Speaker 2: ninety first minute, lifting the Phoenix up to eighth place

1661
01:26:25,387 --> 01:26:27,827
Speaker 2: in the twelve team league. And in one of the

1662
01:26:27,827 --> 01:26:32,907
Speaker 2: biggest sporting surprises of the year, the annual Chasing the

1663
01:26:32,947 --> 01:26:37,387
Speaker 2: Fox golf tournaments, showcasing New Zealand golf legend Ryan Fox.

1664
01:26:37,707 --> 01:26:40,947
Speaker 2: He takes on a mix of challenges including sports stars,

1665
01:26:41,427 --> 01:26:46,467
Speaker 2: media personalities, politicians, YouTube golfers and more on his home

1666
01:26:46,507 --> 01:26:51,107
Speaker 2: course at Royal Auckland and the Grange. The media team

1667
01:26:51,507 --> 01:26:56,067
Speaker 2: has one Chasing the Fox, consisting of Die Henwood, Mark

1668
01:26:56,147 --> 01:27:00,027
Speaker 2: Richardson and our very own Jeremy Wells from Radio Hodaki

1669
01:27:00,187 --> 01:27:02,707
Speaker 2: and the alternative commentary collective.

1670
01:27:02,827 --> 01:27:05,787
Speaker 16: Well tell you what, I will follow Mark Richardson into

1671
01:27:05,947 --> 01:27:11,827
Speaker 16: war because today he showed incredible courage, incredible determination, great

1672
01:27:11,867 --> 01:27:15,147
Speaker 16: skill and really just die I followed his lead.

1673
01:27:15,707 --> 01:27:17,187
Speaker 2: So it was a great.

1674
01:27:16,947 --> 01:27:19,667
Speaker 16: Privilege to be playing with him and to be playing

1675
01:27:19,707 --> 01:27:21,467
Speaker 16: this event. To be I was what a fantastic event,

1676
01:27:21,547 --> 01:27:22,187
Speaker 16: What a great.

1677
01:27:22,027 --> 01:27:24,267
Speaker 4: Vibe when it's down to the line.

1678
01:27:24,507 --> 01:27:27,427
Speaker 1: You made a call On eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1679
01:27:27,667 --> 01:27:30,667
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Payne News Talks MB.

1680
01:27:31,227 --> 01:27:33,307
Speaker 2: Tom Latham has brought up his fifty at seven Park

1681
01:27:33,387 --> 01:27:37,347
Speaker 2: fifty three not out alongside came Williamson unbeaten on eight

1682
01:27:37,427 --> 01:27:40,747
Speaker 2: New Zealand one hundred and twenty for one, batting first

1683
01:27:40,747 --> 01:27:44,107
Speaker 2: against England in the Third Test. One of the key

1684
01:27:44,107 --> 01:27:47,867
Speaker 2: members of the Wellington Phoenix is SUPERB twenty twenty three

1685
01:27:48,107 --> 01:27:52,147
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four a league season was defender Finn Sermon.

1686
01:27:52,627 --> 01:27:55,547
Speaker 2: Now Van Adam can deliver and doesn't.

1687
01:27:58,787 --> 01:27:59,187
Speaker 3: Believer.

1688
01:28:00,427 --> 01:28:02,707
Speaker 1: Sermon with his first highly.

1689
01:28:02,627 --> 01:28:07,427
Speaker 13: Things Guy has noted for Linton, did they have.

1690
01:28:07,507 --> 01:28:12,267
Speaker 2: In the capital ben seven joining of the ninth been.

1691
01:28:12,227 --> 01:28:14,067
Speaker 4: Marshall includ quarter early.

1692
01:28:15,827 --> 01:28:18,067
Speaker 2: And then the night of the tap as they said

1693
01:28:18,187 --> 01:28:18,747
Speaker 2: last time the.

1694
01:28:18,827 --> 01:28:22,227
Speaker 14: Runnings had pretenecks have come up with the moment it's

1695
01:28:22,307 --> 01:28:23,467
Speaker 14: got big center back.

1696
01:28:23,547 --> 01:28:25,627
Speaker 2: He had the big center back. Finn Sermony played every

1697
01:28:25,667 --> 01:28:27,987
Speaker 2: game for the Phoenix last season and caught the eye

1698
01:28:28,147 --> 01:28:31,187
Speaker 2: of the Portland Timbers in the United States and the

1699
01:28:31,387 --> 01:28:34,627
Speaker 2: MLS over there. Moved there shortly after. He represented New

1700
01:28:34,667 --> 01:28:37,667
Speaker 2: Zealand at the Paris Olympic Games for the second half

1701
01:28:37,787 --> 01:28:41,107
Speaker 2: of the MLS season. He's back home now in the

1702
01:28:41,267 --> 01:28:43,907
Speaker 2: US off season and joins US Finn. Great to get

1703
01:28:43,947 --> 01:28:46,307
Speaker 2: the chance to chat to you. How do you reflect

1704
01:28:46,387 --> 01:28:49,547
Speaker 2: back on your first half season with the Portland Timbers

1705
01:28:49,747 --> 01:28:50,587
Speaker 2: in the MLS.

1706
01:28:51,507 --> 01:28:56,067
Speaker 10: Thanks for having me, Heidi. The first first ever half

1707
01:28:56,147 --> 01:28:58,707
Speaker 10: of the season was with the Portland Timbers. Has been.

1708
01:28:59,307 --> 01:29:03,227
Speaker 10: It's been awesome for myself. I think I've taken a

1709
01:29:03,307 --> 01:29:06,107
Speaker 10: lot of time to settle into a new country and

1710
01:29:06,427 --> 01:29:08,747
Speaker 10: team with new staff, all that sort of stuff and

1711
01:29:09,267 --> 01:29:12,707
Speaker 10: and and and kind of adjust to my new life.

1712
01:29:12,827 --> 01:29:17,547
Speaker 10: But overall, I've I've really enjoyed it. Trying to adjust

1713
01:29:17,627 --> 01:29:21,067
Speaker 10: the level of my team and the pace of the games.

1714
01:29:21,627 --> 01:29:24,547
Speaker 10: There's a slight step up and yeah, I've really been

1715
01:29:24,627 --> 01:29:25,667
Speaker 10: enjoying it as.

1716
01:29:25,627 --> 01:29:30,227
Speaker 2: You made those adjustments. Was it an easy team environment

1717
01:29:30,387 --> 01:29:32,307
Speaker 2: to fit into? Did they? Did they make it easy

1718
01:29:32,387 --> 01:29:34,827
Speaker 2: for you in terms of the players and the staff

1719
01:29:34,867 --> 01:29:35,387
Speaker 2: at Portland?

1720
01:29:36,307 --> 01:29:40,627
Speaker 10: Yeah, everyone was actually really welcoming. The staff. The staff

1721
01:29:40,627 --> 01:29:42,827
Speaker 10: were great to me and they were always looking out

1722
01:29:43,467 --> 01:29:47,187
Speaker 10: offering offering their help with whatever I needed, it was

1723
01:29:47,267 --> 01:29:49,267
Speaker 10: off the pitch or on the pitch things. And then

1724
01:29:49,827 --> 01:29:51,467
Speaker 10: same with the players. To be honest, the players are

1725
01:29:51,467 --> 01:29:55,267
Speaker 10: extremely were welcoming. A lot of them were slightly older

1726
01:29:55,307 --> 01:29:58,147
Speaker 10: than me, but they were still that's still all great

1727
01:29:58,187 --> 01:30:00,347
Speaker 10: to me. They were welcomed me in a lot of

1728
01:30:00,387 --> 01:30:02,547
Speaker 10: boys from different cultures, which is which has been awesome

1729
01:30:02,627 --> 01:30:06,987
Speaker 10: and definitely something new that I'm experiencing, which I'm I'm loving.

1730
01:30:07,547 --> 01:30:10,587
Speaker 2: How would you compare the standard that you've that you've

1731
01:30:10,707 --> 01:30:13,307
Speaker 2: arrived in the m l S and inside the Portland

1732
01:30:13,347 --> 01:30:15,907
Speaker 2: Timbers as well with what you were playing in the

1733
01:30:15,947 --> 01:30:17,307
Speaker 2: A League for the last couple of years.

1734
01:30:18,467 --> 01:30:21,547
Speaker 10: Well, I think I think it's just a step up

1735
01:30:21,627 --> 01:30:24,907
Speaker 10: and an intensity to be honest, some of the players

1736
01:30:25,987 --> 01:30:29,387
Speaker 10: that I get to play against and train against seriously

1737
01:30:29,387 --> 01:30:33,907
Speaker 10: equality and they kind of punish you whenever there's a mistake.

1738
01:30:35,907 --> 01:30:38,267
Speaker 10: And yeah, like I said, the intensity, the speed of

1739
01:30:38,347 --> 01:30:41,307
Speaker 10: what people do things, whether that's thinking or just the

1740
01:30:41,387 --> 01:30:43,907
Speaker 10: actions that they do, is it's just a little that

1741
01:30:43,907 --> 01:30:45,787
Speaker 10: a little bit faster, and so you have to make

1742
01:30:45,827 --> 01:30:50,187
Speaker 10: decisions slightly quicker and move quicker and do that sort

1743
01:30:50,187 --> 01:30:53,107
Speaker 10: of stuff. So, yeah, there's a slight step up with intensity,

1744
01:30:53,187 --> 01:30:56,387
Speaker 10: but it's something that I'm really enjoying the challenge of

1745
01:30:56,547 --> 01:30:57,867
Speaker 10: and getting to grips with.

1746
01:30:58,067 --> 01:31:00,107
Speaker 2: Yeah, and have you found that that that has compelled

1747
01:31:00,147 --> 01:31:03,227
Speaker 2: you to do exactly that, to lift what was already

1748
01:31:03,267 --> 01:31:05,307
Speaker 2: a good level up to you know, maybe the next

1749
01:31:05,387 --> 01:31:08,627
Speaker 2: level around your the pace, the decision making, that sort

1750
01:31:08,667 --> 01:31:08,867
Speaker 2: of thing.

1751
01:31:09,667 --> 01:31:10,307
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.

1752
01:31:10,467 --> 01:31:13,787
Speaker 10: And I think the longer I'm there, the more not

1753
01:31:13,827 --> 01:31:16,987
Speaker 10: necessarily comfortable you get within it, but the more adjusted

1754
01:31:17,027 --> 01:31:20,227
Speaker 10: you've become. And the coaching staff has spent a lot

1755
01:31:20,227 --> 01:31:23,907
Speaker 10: of time with me over the last three months getting

1756
01:31:24,107 --> 01:31:26,547
Speaker 10: adjusted to where I need to be and that sort

1757
01:31:26,547 --> 01:31:29,427
Speaker 10: of stuff, and so there's there's there's been a big

1758
01:31:29,507 --> 01:31:32,827
Speaker 10: help to me and in settling into the new environment.

1759
01:31:33,307 --> 01:31:35,747
Speaker 2: You were included in match day squads fairly quickly, but

1760
01:31:35,827 --> 01:31:37,227
Speaker 2: you have to be a bit patient to wait for

1761
01:31:37,307 --> 01:31:40,347
Speaker 2: your opportunity to actually make your debut. Was that in

1762
01:31:40,427 --> 01:31:41,667
Speaker 2: any way challenging for you?

1763
01:31:42,987 --> 01:31:43,187
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1764
01:31:44,027 --> 01:31:44,427
Speaker 3: It was.

1765
01:31:44,707 --> 01:31:49,707
Speaker 10: I think I've spoken openly before about about what it's

1766
01:31:49,787 --> 01:31:52,427
Speaker 10: like not playing and the challenges that come with that.

1767
01:31:53,667 --> 01:31:57,867
Speaker 10: So moving there, moving their Midwest through a season, and

1768
01:31:58,507 --> 01:32:01,027
Speaker 10: with the situation that our team was in, I kind

1769
01:32:01,027 --> 01:32:02,507
Speaker 10: of knew what I was getting myself into. You know,

1770
01:32:02,587 --> 01:32:04,907
Speaker 10: we we were pushing for playoffs. We were kind of

1771
01:32:04,947 --> 01:32:07,547
Speaker 10: on the brink of it for a lot of the time,

1772
01:32:07,747 --> 01:32:11,707
Speaker 10: pushing for playoffs. So every game is important and and

1773
01:32:11,867 --> 01:32:15,467
Speaker 10: sometimes center backs is difficult to change. So yeah, coming

1774
01:32:15,507 --> 01:32:17,587
Speaker 10: in there, I was, I was on the bench, on

1775
01:32:17,667 --> 01:32:20,307
Speaker 10: the bench quite a lot, and I kind of I

1776
01:32:20,427 --> 01:32:23,027
Speaker 10: told myself that, you know, just needs to be patient

1777
01:32:23,187 --> 01:32:26,427
Speaker 10: and train as hard as you can so that basically

1778
01:32:26,667 --> 01:32:29,427
Speaker 10: be ready when when you do an opportunity, because that's

1779
01:32:29,467 --> 01:32:31,467
Speaker 10: all football really is is being ready when you do

1780
01:32:31,547 --> 01:32:32,147
Speaker 10: get the chance.

1781
01:32:32,907 --> 01:32:37,307
Speaker 2: And you did your debut, did arrive superb game that

1782
01:32:37,427 --> 01:32:40,867
Speaker 2: you had on debut? How pleased were you with your

1783
01:32:40,987 --> 01:32:42,107
Speaker 2: your first game for Portland?

1784
01:32:43,387 --> 01:32:43,587
Speaker 3: I was.

1785
01:32:43,707 --> 01:32:46,547
Speaker 10: I was very pleased. To be honest, I think there's

1786
01:32:46,587 --> 01:32:48,187
Speaker 10: there's a lot of things that I can take out

1787
01:32:48,227 --> 01:32:54,107
Speaker 10: of that game. Positively. I think I proved myself to

1788
01:32:54,227 --> 01:32:59,667
Speaker 10: my teammates and my staff that that I can, I

1789
01:32:59,787 --> 01:33:01,707
Speaker 10: can play at the at the level and I can

1790
01:33:01,947 --> 01:33:04,907
Speaker 10: I can, I can back myself up there. I think

1791
01:33:04,987 --> 01:33:08,027
Speaker 10: in terms of the game, it was quite an important

1792
01:33:08,067 --> 01:33:10,147
Speaker 10: game for us, a special game. It was a derby

1793
01:33:10,227 --> 01:33:14,067
Speaker 10: and came for the Cascadia Cup, and although we would

1794
01:33:14,067 --> 01:33:15,987
Speaker 10: have liked to win, we drew in that and that

1795
01:33:16,307 --> 01:33:18,587
Speaker 10: that got us the cup. So that was super important,

1796
01:33:18,587 --> 01:33:20,747
Speaker 10: I know for not only our team but also our fans.

1797
01:33:22,107 --> 01:33:24,347
Speaker 10: So that was yeah, that was It was a good

1798
01:33:24,387 --> 01:33:26,627
Speaker 10: game and I'm pretty happy with with how it went.

1799
01:33:26,747 --> 01:33:30,507
Speaker 10: And I'm positive because I know I can I can

1800
01:33:30,907 --> 01:33:31,827
Speaker 10: continue to get better.

1801
01:33:32,747 --> 01:33:35,387
Speaker 2: Your head coach is a fairly well known football figure

1802
01:33:35,387 --> 01:33:38,387
Speaker 2: around the place for my Manchester United and England defender

1803
01:33:38,427 --> 01:33:40,947
Speaker 2: Phil Neville. How has he been to work under.

1804
01:33:41,827 --> 01:33:44,867
Speaker 10: It's been great. I find that he's been super honest

1805
01:33:44,907 --> 01:33:47,627
Speaker 10: with me in the in the in the three or

1806
01:33:47,627 --> 01:33:49,547
Speaker 10: four months that have been there, He's has just been

1807
01:33:49,627 --> 01:33:51,947
Speaker 10: open and honest with me about where he sees me

1808
01:33:52,187 --> 01:33:54,787
Speaker 10: where where I need to improve, and that's that sort

1809
01:33:54,827 --> 01:33:57,827
Speaker 10: of thing. So yeah, he's he's been great, and I

1810
01:33:57,907 --> 01:34:01,507
Speaker 10: think he's going to bring out even He's going to

1811
01:34:01,547 --> 01:34:04,067
Speaker 10: bring out a good side of me. And same with

1812
01:34:04,147 --> 01:34:08,987
Speaker 10: there's some of his other staff work closely with Len Ridgewell,

1813
01:34:09,027 --> 01:34:12,907
Speaker 10: who's who's another one of the assistant coaches, who's Who's

1814
01:34:12,947 --> 01:34:14,707
Speaker 10: also put a lot of time into me so far,

1815
01:34:14,827 --> 01:34:16,187
Speaker 10: and I'm really enjoying working.

1816
01:34:16,107 --> 01:34:19,267
Speaker 2: Under fantastic And of course alongside all of this, you've

1817
01:34:19,267 --> 01:34:21,027
Speaker 2: been a regular member of the All Whites as well

1818
01:34:21,387 --> 01:34:24,387
Speaker 2: for a week while now, how keen are you to

1819
01:34:24,467 --> 01:34:27,027
Speaker 2: be involved in the final push towards the World Cup

1820
01:34:27,107 --> 01:34:29,187
Speaker 2: and in the early part of next year.

1821
01:34:31,107 --> 01:34:34,787
Speaker 10: I think that's that's something that's always been a goal

1822
01:34:34,827 --> 01:34:37,467
Speaker 10: of mine, to become a regular and the All Whites

1823
01:34:37,467 --> 01:34:40,307
Speaker 10: and to be playing for the All Whites. We've got

1824
01:34:40,347 --> 01:34:43,187
Speaker 10: some like a fantastic group of players at the moment,

1825
01:34:43,307 --> 01:34:46,907
Speaker 10: not only defenders, not the Cinevax, but just the whole

1826
01:34:46,947 --> 01:34:50,147
Speaker 10: team in general. So I know that everyone's really pushing

1827
01:34:50,187 --> 01:34:52,787
Speaker 10: for places and and and everyone wants to be playing.

1828
01:34:52,907 --> 01:34:55,347
Speaker 10: So it's it's we've got some really healthy competition at

1829
01:34:55,347 --> 01:34:58,267
Speaker 10: the moment, and yeah, I love I love getting the

1830
01:34:58,307 --> 01:35:01,307
Speaker 10: opportunity to play for the national team and that's something

1831
01:35:01,347 --> 01:35:02,227
Speaker 10: I want to continue doing.

1832
01:35:02,547 --> 01:35:02,667
Speaker 3: Well.

1833
01:35:02,707 --> 01:35:04,307
Speaker 2: One game that court well my eye and I think

1834
01:35:04,347 --> 01:35:05,507
Speaker 2: the I have a lot of people was the one

1835
01:35:05,587 --> 01:35:08,507
Speaker 2: all draw with the United States in September. I thought

1836
01:35:08,507 --> 01:35:10,547
Speaker 2: you were terrific that day. Where does that game?

1837
01:35:10,667 --> 01:35:10,787
Speaker 8: Right?

1838
01:35:10,867 --> 01:35:12,707
Speaker 2: Among the internationals you've played.

1839
01:35:13,707 --> 01:35:17,387
Speaker 10: That's probably one of the highest internationals, probably the best

1840
01:35:17,467 --> 01:35:21,427
Speaker 10: international at a at a men's level. That's probably the

1841
01:35:21,587 --> 01:35:25,027
Speaker 10: best team i'd say that I've played against at the

1842
01:35:25,467 --> 01:35:28,107
Speaker 10: at the men's level. So that was that was pretty special,

1843
01:35:28,147 --> 01:35:32,747
Speaker 10: and I thought that we did a right that game. Yeah,

1844
01:35:32,907 --> 01:35:35,347
Speaker 10: one one against USA is not not a bad result

1845
01:35:36,427 --> 01:35:39,387
Speaker 10: considering we're bouncing trying to bounce back from from a

1846
01:35:39,907 --> 01:35:43,947
Speaker 10: bad loss against Mexico. So yeah, that was that was

1847
01:35:44,187 --> 01:35:47,787
Speaker 10: That's probably the top top game that I've played at

1848
01:35:47,787 --> 01:35:48,947
Speaker 10: the men's national team level.

1849
01:35:49,227 --> 01:35:51,067
Speaker 2: And the Olympics as well, Let's not forget that it's

1850
01:35:51,067 --> 01:35:53,027
Speaker 2: been a busy year for you the Olympic Games as well.

1851
01:35:53,067 --> 01:35:54,427
Speaker 2: How was that experience in Paris?

1852
01:35:55,107 --> 01:35:58,587
Speaker 10: Oh, that was awesome. Those are some of the best

1853
01:35:58,627 --> 01:36:01,587
Speaker 10: teams as well that I've played against. USA. And France.

1854
01:36:01,667 --> 01:36:06,667
Speaker 10: They they they were both very strong, especially France. That

1855
01:36:06,827 --> 01:36:10,147
Speaker 10: was an awesome experience. I think we're quite disappointed with

1856
01:36:10,227 --> 01:36:13,507
Speaker 10: how we i'd say how the results went overall in

1857
01:36:13,587 --> 01:36:17,947
Speaker 10: that tournament, but okay, we all gained a lot of

1858
01:36:18,147 --> 01:36:21,227
Speaker 10: valuable experience from that, and you can see the level

1859
01:36:21,267 --> 01:36:23,507
Speaker 10: of where some of these guys are and where we

1860
01:36:23,627 --> 01:36:24,627
Speaker 10: eventually want to get to.

1861
01:36:25,547 --> 01:36:27,627
Speaker 2: So have you been keeping an eye on the Phoenix

1862
01:36:27,707 --> 01:36:29,267
Speaker 2: results in the first couple of months of the New

1863
01:36:29,307 --> 01:36:29,987
Speaker 2: A League season.

1864
01:36:30,707 --> 01:36:32,587
Speaker 10: Yeah, I've been keeping I've been keeping up with it,

1865
01:36:33,387 --> 01:36:35,507
Speaker 10: don't watch, haven't watched every game, but I've watched. I've

1866
01:36:35,547 --> 01:36:38,067
Speaker 10: watched a few games, and I'm enjoying watching him play.

1867
01:36:38,667 --> 01:36:40,267
Speaker 2: I know you're back for the game this afternoon, so

1868
01:36:40,307 --> 01:36:41,987
Speaker 2: I'll look forward to seeing you at Sky Stadium. What

1869
01:36:42,027 --> 01:36:44,907
Speaker 2: do you do back in the United States for pre

1870
01:36:45,027 --> 01:36:46,227
Speaker 2: season training and such like?

1871
01:36:47,307 --> 01:36:51,267
Speaker 10: Head back early early January, late December to start pre

1872
01:36:51,387 --> 01:36:54,827
Speaker 10: season in at the start of January, So I'm really

1873
01:36:54,827 --> 01:36:57,427
Speaker 10: I'm really looking forward to that, and I actually I

1874
01:36:57,507 --> 01:36:59,867
Speaker 10: actually can't wait to get back and get stuff into it.

1875
01:37:00,187 --> 01:37:03,307
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Well, congratulations on a terrific year across all of

1876
01:37:03,347 --> 01:37:06,507
Speaker 2: your football teams from the Phoenix, the Ollie White, your

1877
01:37:06,547 --> 01:37:08,747
Speaker 2: Whites and the Portland Timbers. G what are twenty twenty four?

1878
01:37:08,747 --> 01:37:11,907
Speaker 2: It's been for you mate, Congratulations, enjoy what's left of

1879
01:37:11,947 --> 01:37:13,587
Speaker 2: your summer break and look forward to catching up again.

1880
01:37:13,667 --> 01:37:14,787
Speaker 3: So sweet.

1881
01:37:14,827 --> 01:37:16,267
Speaker 10: Thank you very much, Biddy, No, thank you.

1882
01:37:16,307 --> 01:37:20,947
Speaker 2: For Finnsummon then former Wellington Phoenix defender or Whites and

1883
01:37:21,107 --> 01:37:25,347
Speaker 2: Portland Timbers defender in town for the game this afternoon

1884
01:37:25,387 --> 01:37:29,067
Speaker 2: as the Wellington Phoenix take on MacArthur from five o'clock

1885
01:37:29,107 --> 01:37:32,107
Speaker 2: this afternoon. Let's quickly move on to that at two

1886
01:37:32,307 --> 01:37:35,187
Speaker 2: twenty two. This is off the back of the loss

1887
01:37:35,227 --> 01:37:37,227
Speaker 2: and the derby last time out, of course a week

1888
01:37:37,267 --> 01:37:40,227
Speaker 2: ago Wellington Phoenix going down tow one to Auckland FC.

1889
01:37:40,987 --> 01:37:42,907
Speaker 2: A guy who is new to the squad this year

1890
01:37:43,067 --> 01:37:45,107
Speaker 2: and has been making his impact off the bench so

1891
01:37:45,307 --> 01:37:50,427
Speaker 2: far is former Perth Glory and Melbourne City attacker Stefan Kolakowski.

1892
01:37:51,507 --> 01:37:51,907
Speaker 3: Can't tack.

1893
01:37:51,987 --> 01:37:53,507
Speaker 2: This is the interception of tag It's away.

1894
01:37:53,667 --> 01:38:09,467
Speaker 5: Kolokovsky is there in surpriset.

1895
01:38:02,387 --> 01:38:05,827
Speaker 2: Season for the boy Stefan Kolakowski playing these days for

1896
01:38:05,907 --> 01:38:08,187
Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix. I caught up with him during the week

1897
01:38:08,227 --> 01:38:10,147
Speaker 2: and the lead up to the game this afternoon. Asked

1898
01:38:10,227 --> 01:38:12,787
Speaker 2: first of all, how important it is that the team

1899
01:38:12,907 --> 01:38:16,627
Speaker 2: bounces back from the disappointment of the defeat last week

1900
01:38:16,667 --> 01:38:18,347
Speaker 2: in to Auckland FC and the derby.

1901
01:38:18,907 --> 01:38:22,787
Speaker 17: Yeah, extremely important. I think last season the boys never

1902
01:38:22,867 --> 01:38:24,747
Speaker 17: had back to back losses. I don't know if that's

1903
01:38:26,027 --> 01:38:28,947
Speaker 17: correct me on that, but so I think it's important

1904
01:38:28,987 --> 01:38:31,227
Speaker 17: to keep that this season, and we haven't done it

1905
01:38:31,467 --> 01:38:35,147
Speaker 17: this season yet as well. So yeah, at least go

1906
01:38:35,307 --> 01:38:37,307
Speaker 17: out there give everything, and yeah, I think we need

1907
01:38:37,387 --> 01:38:39,227
Speaker 17: to come back with not come back with the plane

1908
01:38:39,227 --> 01:38:40,667
Speaker 17: at home, but get the three points.

1909
01:38:41,307 --> 01:38:44,027
Speaker 2: How do you reflect on the performance overall on the

1910
01:38:44,027 --> 01:38:45,027
Speaker 2: weekend against Auckland.

1911
01:38:46,187 --> 01:38:50,707
Speaker 17: I think we're all disappointed with the result obviously, and

1912
01:38:50,867 --> 01:38:54,347
Speaker 17: with the way we played. I think, you know, it

1913
01:38:54,507 --> 01:38:56,947
Speaker 17: was a game that maybe could have gone either way,

1914
01:38:56,947 --> 01:38:59,387
Speaker 17: and they took their chances and maybe we didn't break

1915
01:38:59,427 --> 01:39:00,827
Speaker 17: them down as much as we would have liked to.

1916
01:39:01,947 --> 01:39:04,827
Speaker 17: But that's footy. Now, you know, we've got this week

1917
01:39:04,907 --> 01:39:07,267
Speaker 17: to bounce back in and get a result.

1918
01:39:07,947 --> 01:39:09,907
Speaker 2: You're getting a run of games off the beach and

1919
01:39:09,907 --> 01:39:11,787
Speaker 2: an impact role at the moment. How you enjoying life

1920
01:39:11,827 --> 01:39:12,667
Speaker 2: at Wellington Phoenix.

1921
01:39:15,867 --> 01:39:16,587
Speaker 4: Now I'm loving it.

1922
01:39:17,507 --> 01:39:19,987
Speaker 17: Yeah, obviously, like you said, I'm coming off the bench.

1923
01:39:20,267 --> 01:39:22,667
Speaker 17: I think every player wants to be starting and playing

1924
01:39:22,747 --> 01:39:24,867
Speaker 17: ninety minutes. I think that's just what every player should

1925
01:39:24,907 --> 01:39:26,907
Speaker 17: should strive force. Of course, that's where I want to

1926
01:39:27,027 --> 01:39:30,387
Speaker 17: get to and that's what I want to start playing

1927
01:39:30,507 --> 01:39:32,707
Speaker 17: more minutes. But at the end of the day, it's

1928
01:39:32,707 --> 01:39:34,787
Speaker 17: a team games. So if chief you wants me off

1929
01:39:34,787 --> 01:39:37,107
Speaker 17: the bench for thirty minutes, then I'm going to give

1930
01:39:37,147 --> 01:39:37,467
Speaker 17: them all.

1931
01:39:37,867 --> 01:39:39,347
Speaker 2: It seems like that's kind of been a role You've

1932
01:39:39,347 --> 01:39:41,747
Speaker 2: played at various clubs over your league career. Is that

1933
01:39:41,827 --> 01:39:44,107
Speaker 2: impact role but you are keen to push for that

1934
01:39:44,467 --> 01:39:46,587
Speaker 2: starting spot obviously, Yeah, of course.

1935
01:39:46,667 --> 01:39:49,507
Speaker 17: I mean, you know, last year was probably my first

1936
01:39:49,627 --> 01:39:52,307
Speaker 17: year where I was I had a long runner game

1937
01:39:52,427 --> 01:39:54,267
Speaker 17: starting and I think that was probably my best year

1938
01:39:54,307 --> 01:39:57,907
Speaker 17: of my career. So I think it's just continuous, you know,

1939
01:39:58,187 --> 01:40:00,627
Speaker 17: minutes and when you get when you're starting games, you

1940
01:40:00,707 --> 01:40:02,587
Speaker 17: get a bit of momentum and you can really show

1941
01:40:02,627 --> 01:40:04,667
Speaker 17: what you can do. But yeah, in saying that, I

1942
01:40:04,747 --> 01:40:07,227
Speaker 17: did it at Melbourne City off the beat, mens, I

1943
01:40:07,307 --> 01:40:10,307
Speaker 17: did well. So for now, if that's what my role is,

1944
01:40:10,387 --> 01:40:12,307
Speaker 17: then I've got to give it everything.

1945
01:40:12,627 --> 01:40:14,707
Speaker 2: Do you feel I was though there is a place

1946
01:40:14,787 --> 01:40:16,467
Speaker 2: for you in the starting eleven? I mean Chief teams

1947
01:40:16,507 --> 01:40:18,507
Speaker 2: to you know, to play around it with the formation,

1948
01:40:18,707 --> 01:40:20,507
Speaker 2: But do you think there's a natural place for you

1949
01:40:20,627 --> 01:40:21,827
Speaker 2: and his beast to eleven?

1950
01:40:22,467 --> 01:40:26,667
Speaker 17: I think so yeah, of course, Like I know he didn't.

1951
01:40:26,747 --> 01:40:29,187
Speaker 17: I don't think he brought me here just so I'm

1952
01:40:29,267 --> 01:40:31,587
Speaker 17: happy to sit on the bench and I didn't come

1953
01:40:31,627 --> 01:40:34,747
Speaker 17: here to just you know, be an impact player. But

1954
01:40:35,747 --> 01:40:37,307
Speaker 17: so yeah, I do think there's a place I'm in

1955
01:40:37,347 --> 01:40:40,587
Speaker 17: the starting eleven. But I've spoken a Chief and it's

1956
01:40:40,627 --> 01:40:44,147
Speaker 17: all you know, there's no bad feelings or anything. Like

1957
01:40:44,227 --> 01:40:46,307
Speaker 17: I said, when I come, when I'm on the pitch,

1958
01:40:46,347 --> 01:40:47,387
Speaker 17: then I'll give a hundred percent.

1959
01:40:48,627 --> 01:40:51,987
Speaker 2: Has this been an easy team to fit into for

1960
01:40:52,147 --> 01:40:55,787
Speaker 2: a for an outsider, an Australian, for.

1961
01:40:55,827 --> 01:41:00,027
Speaker 17: A foreigner now, very easy, to be honest. The boys

1962
01:41:00,067 --> 01:41:02,827
Speaker 17: have been brilliant, you know, within a week I felt

1963
01:41:02,867 --> 01:41:05,827
Speaker 17: like I'd been here for two years. So great group

1964
01:41:05,867 --> 01:41:09,387
Speaker 17: of boys, and you know, credit to the team. You know,

1965
01:41:09,627 --> 01:41:11,507
Speaker 17: both the young boys and older boys have built a

1966
01:41:11,547 --> 01:41:14,507
Speaker 17: great culture here, a winning culture, and that's something I

1967
01:41:14,547 --> 01:41:16,427
Speaker 17: want to be a part of. So for me, I

1968
01:41:16,507 --> 01:41:19,747
Speaker 17: feel like I fit in pretty quickly, which is good.

1969
01:41:20,787 --> 01:41:22,747
Speaker 17: And yeah, so the culture is great. You're so easy

1970
01:41:22,827 --> 01:41:23,907
Speaker 17: to gel with everyone.

1971
01:41:24,587 --> 01:41:26,947
Speaker 2: So MacArthur this weekend, how do you assist the threat

1972
01:41:26,987 --> 01:41:28,787
Speaker 2: that they'll bring to Wellington?

1973
01:41:29,667 --> 01:41:31,907
Speaker 17: MacArthur, I think a very good team. They've got some

1974
01:41:32,067 --> 01:41:36,987
Speaker 17: very dangerous players Yucklish, you know, Jed Drew, German, Brandon.

1975
01:41:37,307 --> 01:41:39,027
Speaker 17: You know, they've got a strong team, so it's not

1976
01:41:39,107 --> 01:41:41,507
Speaker 17: going to be easy. I think they've had a few

1977
01:41:41,547 --> 01:41:45,067
Speaker 17: losses this season where it could have gone either way.

1978
01:41:46,387 --> 01:41:48,587
Speaker 17: So yeah, But in saying that, we've got a lot

1979
01:41:48,587 --> 01:41:50,747
Speaker 17: of good players too, and a very strong team. So

1980
01:41:51,307 --> 01:41:53,947
Speaker 17: I think we need to show the home fans you

1981
01:41:54,027 --> 01:41:56,787
Speaker 17: know what we can do after last week and hopefully

1982
01:41:56,947 --> 01:41:57,747
Speaker 17: get the three points.

1983
01:41:58,107 --> 01:42:00,187
Speaker 2: I think your record against MacArthur's pretty good. You've played

1984
01:42:00,227 --> 01:42:02,307
Speaker 2: them six times, never lost, never lost to the balls.

1985
01:42:02,667 --> 01:42:04,787
Speaker 2: Are you are any any reason why that might be?

1986
01:42:05,107 --> 01:42:08,587
Speaker 17: I don't know, but long mate, I don't know actually,

1987
01:42:08,707 --> 01:42:12,347
Speaker 17: but yeah, let's continue that record this week.

1988
01:42:12,587 --> 01:42:14,867
Speaker 2: And respeck to the derby. You've played in Melbourne derbies

1989
01:42:14,867 --> 01:42:17,667
Speaker 2: obviously had it dumb the atmosphere on Saturday compared to

1990
01:42:17,947 --> 01:42:19,227
Speaker 2: some of the bigger games you've played in.

1991
01:42:19,747 --> 01:42:22,827
Speaker 17: Yeah, honestly, like we're just saying before they started, it

1992
01:42:22,987 --> 01:42:25,707
Speaker 17: was an amazing atmosphere and a great thing to be

1993
01:42:25,747 --> 01:42:28,427
Speaker 17: a part of, even the first derby that was here.

1994
01:42:28,427 --> 01:42:30,907
Speaker 17: I think it's great for New Zealand football. Obviously being

1995
01:42:31,227 --> 01:42:34,867
Speaker 17: a foreigner maybe it's it's a little bit different for me,

1996
01:42:35,707 --> 01:42:37,587
Speaker 17: but you can see to all the New Zealand boys

1997
01:42:37,667 --> 01:42:40,987
Speaker 17: how much it means. It means to them. So honestly,

1998
01:42:40,987 --> 01:42:43,467
Speaker 17: I played in yeah, Melbourne derbies in front of massive

1999
01:42:43,507 --> 01:42:46,147
Speaker 17: crowds and the New Zealand.

2000
01:42:45,907 --> 01:42:47,907
Speaker 10: Derby was right up there with that.

2001
01:42:48,147 --> 01:42:51,427
Speaker 17: So great for the A League, great for New Zealand

2002
01:42:51,467 --> 01:42:54,387
Speaker 17: football and good for Australian football too, so everyone wins.

2003
01:42:54,667 --> 01:42:59,267
Speaker 2: That is Stef Kolokovsky quite the character in the Wellington

2004
01:42:59,307 --> 01:43:01,867
Speaker 2: Phoenix side. He's in the match day squad for this

2005
01:43:01,987 --> 01:43:05,587
Speaker 2: afternoons match against MacArthur IFC it's sky Stadium. I think

2006
01:43:06,027 --> 01:43:08,347
Speaker 2: we'll get had a good idea from Wellington Phoenix this

2007
01:43:08,427 --> 01:43:12,907
Speaker 2: afternoon about their bounce backability. Obviously a lost last week

2008
01:43:12,947 --> 01:43:15,707
Speaker 2: in the derby. That's twice now they've played Auckland FC

2009
01:43:15,827 --> 01:43:17,787
Speaker 2: by a quirk of the drawer in their first six matches.

2010
01:43:17,787 --> 01:43:20,907
Speaker 2: They've played Auckland twice, lost both games. Other than that,

2011
01:43:21,027 --> 01:43:23,587
Speaker 2: three wins in a drawer, so apart from Auckland there

2012
01:43:23,627 --> 01:43:27,347
Speaker 2: actually going okay. A chance now perhaps to recalibrate reset

2013
01:43:27,587 --> 01:43:29,267
Speaker 2: that I don't play Auckland again until the back end

2014
01:43:29,307 --> 01:43:31,787
Speaker 2: of February, so yeah, a chance perhaps for these two

2015
01:43:31,827 --> 01:43:34,987
Speaker 2: teams to get some breathing space from one another and

2016
01:43:35,627 --> 01:43:39,067
Speaker 2: go about their campaigns. Auckland FC incidentally have a game

2017
01:43:39,107 --> 01:43:43,187
Speaker 2: against Melbourne City tomorrow, that's a seven o'clock kickoff tomorrow evening.

2018
01:43:43,227 --> 01:43:46,347
Speaker 2: We'll get inside the Auckland FC camp on the show tomorrow.

2019
01:43:46,467 --> 01:43:49,227
Speaker 2: But incredible start for the A League's new boys, six

2020
01:43:49,307 --> 01:43:51,787
Speaker 2: wins from six, including that win over the Wellington Phoenix

2021
01:43:52,107 --> 01:43:55,027
Speaker 2: a week ago. We'll get inside the Phoenix women's camp shortly.

2022
01:43:55,107 --> 01:43:57,187
Speaker 2: But back to the cricket one thirty one for one,

2023
01:43:57,427 --> 01:44:00,307
Speaker 2: New Zealand batting first against England and Hamilton. Tom Latham

2024
01:44:00,347 --> 01:44:04,427
Speaker 2: there on sixty and came Williamson alongside, unbeaten on twelve.

2025
01:44:04,547 --> 01:44:07,907
Speaker 2: A cracking day in Hamilton by the looks of things.

2026
01:44:07,947 --> 01:44:09,907
Speaker 2: So going along very nicely there. They're back on the

2027
01:44:10,387 --> 01:44:13,827
Speaker 2: field at the gabberin Brisbane, Australia, twenty four without loss

2028
01:44:14,147 --> 01:44:16,947
Speaker 2: in the ninth over, batting first against India Kauwhaja seventeen

2029
01:44:16,987 --> 01:44:20,267
Speaker 2: not out Nathan mcswenty there on two. And just an

2030
01:44:20,307 --> 01:44:22,987
Speaker 2: update on Halle Burton Johnston Shield cricket as well. This

2031
01:44:23,107 --> 01:44:26,667
Speaker 2: is our domestic fifty over competition for our top women's players.

2032
01:44:27,627 --> 01:44:31,987
Speaker 2: Three games ongoing. In New Plymouth. The Central Hines two

2033
01:44:32,107 --> 01:44:35,067
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy three for eight from their fifty overs,

2034
01:44:35,107 --> 01:44:38,307
Speaker 2: including an unbeaten one hundred from number seven Kerry and

2035
01:44:38,467 --> 01:44:42,307
Speaker 2: Tomlinson terrific innings from her two seventy three for eight.

2036
01:44:42,387 --> 01:44:44,867
Speaker 2: Canery about to begin the chase for two hundred and

2037
01:44:44,907 --> 01:44:47,467
Speaker 2: seventy four to win there. There's a delay. In Dunedin

2038
01:44:47,627 --> 01:44:50,427
Speaker 2: they're off the ground. Northern District's one seventy six for

2039
01:44:50,547 --> 01:44:52,947
Speaker 2: eight in the forty fourth over, so we may be

2040
01:44:52,987 --> 01:44:56,147
Speaker 2: looking at a reduction in overs there. And at Eden

2041
01:44:56,187 --> 01:45:00,747
Speaker 2: Parks Outer Oval, Wellington have got through in their innings

2042
01:45:00,947 --> 01:45:04,027
Speaker 2: to two hundred and thirty two for eight two thirty

2043
01:45:04,107 --> 01:45:05,547
Speaker 2: two for eight. They were in quite a bit of

2044
01:45:05,587 --> 01:45:09,267
Speaker 2: trouble early twenty two for three, but thankfully for them

2045
01:45:09,307 --> 01:45:10,787
Speaker 2: one of the best players in the world is playing

2046
01:45:10,827 --> 01:45:13,147
Speaker 2: for them today and that's merely Kerr and she was

2047
01:45:13,187 --> 01:45:14,787
Speaker 2: out off the last ball of the innings for one

2048
01:45:14,907 --> 01:45:18,387
Speaker 2: hundred and eight off one hundred and five balls, helping

2049
01:45:18,427 --> 01:45:21,147
Speaker 2: Wellington through to two hundred and thirty two for eight.

2050
01:45:21,507 --> 01:45:23,547
Speaker 2: So Auckland about to begin the chase for two hundred

2051
01:45:23,587 --> 01:45:26,627
Speaker 2: and thirty three to win that game in the Halliburton

2052
01:45:26,867 --> 01:45:30,907
Speaker 2: Johnston Shield. Half past two. We'll take a break come

2053
01:45:30,947 --> 01:45:32,427
Speaker 2: back after this. On Weekend Sport.

2054
01:45:32,667 --> 01:45:38,267
Speaker 1: One Grudge Hold Engage Weekend Sports with Jason Pine and GJ.

2055
01:45:38,467 --> 01:45:41,827
Speaker 1: Gunner Homes New Zealand's most trusted home, Milder News Talks

2056
01:45:41,867 --> 01:45:42,667
Speaker 1: to Baby.

2057
01:45:42,667 --> 01:45:45,027
Speaker 2: News Talks to Be twenty seven to three New Zealand

2058
01:45:45,027 --> 01:45:47,147
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty five for one. In Hamilton, Tom

2059
01:45:47,227 --> 01:45:49,267
Speaker 2: Latham his top score of the series, his first half

2060
01:45:49,347 --> 01:45:52,747
Speaker 2: century of the series. He is unbeaten on sixty and

2061
01:45:53,067 --> 01:45:57,547
Speaker 2: came Williamson who absolutely loves said in Park He's just

2062
01:45:57,627 --> 01:46:01,387
Speaker 2: starting his innings and currently is there unbeaten. On sixteen

2063
01:46:01,987 --> 01:46:05,907
Speaker 2: came Williamson at Seddon Park, averages ninety four point two

2064
01:46:06,067 --> 01:46:10,227
Speaker 2: six six hundreds at this venue, including his best ever

2065
01:46:10,347 --> 01:46:13,587
Speaker 2: Test score two hundred and fifty one against the West

2066
01:46:13,627 --> 01:46:16,507
Speaker 2: Indies in twenty twenty. He must absolutely love it out there.

2067
01:46:16,947 --> 01:46:20,147
Speaker 2: So he's there on sixteen not out with four boundaries actually,

2068
01:46:20,267 --> 01:46:24,107
Speaker 2: so he's not worrying about the singles. Came Williamson, four

2069
01:46:24,187 --> 01:46:27,867
Speaker 2: boundaries in his sixteen not out Tom Latham sixty unbeaten

2070
01:46:28,707 --> 01:46:31,387
Speaker 2: came Williamson, our best batter in this series ninety three

2071
01:46:31,427 --> 01:46:33,827
Speaker 2: and sixty one in christ Church, thirty seven and four

2072
01:46:34,307 --> 01:46:37,387
Speaker 2: in Wellington. So yeah, he's our top run scorer to date.

2073
01:46:38,227 --> 01:46:44,067
Speaker 2: Let's hope he can continue along in this fashion. England

2074
01:46:44,667 --> 01:46:47,027
Speaker 2: have some work to do in the sunshine in Hamilton

2075
01:46:47,147 --> 01:46:49,587
Speaker 2: as New Zealand continue to build what at the moment

2076
01:46:49,707 --> 01:46:52,467
Speaker 2: looks to be a very promising first innings total across

2077
01:46:52,467 --> 01:46:55,627
Speaker 2: at the Gabba. Australia twenty five without loss, having been

2078
01:46:55,667 --> 01:46:58,907
Speaker 2: sent in by India on day one of the third

2079
01:46:58,987 --> 01:47:03,507
Speaker 2: Test in their five match series. Let's go back to football,

2080
01:47:03,587 --> 01:47:06,987
Speaker 2: because last night the Wellington Phoenix women star under Melbourne

2081
01:47:07,067 --> 01:47:10,627
Speaker 2: victory with a stoppage time equalizer to earn a one

2082
01:47:10,707 --> 01:47:15,107
Speaker 2: old drawer, their first ever points in Victoria in four

2083
01:47:15,187 --> 01:47:17,187
Speaker 2: seasons of trying back out.

2084
01:47:17,107 --> 01:47:20,027
Speaker 5: To the right flank, Emma Main trying to turn provider.

2085
01:47:20,187 --> 01:47:24,747
Speaker 2: What across what an equalizer. It's Mania Alliot for the Phoenix.

2086
01:47:25,227 --> 01:47:26,187
Speaker 2: McCutcheon's pass.

2087
01:47:26,587 --> 01:47:28,667
Speaker 5: Knew that Maine was out on the wing, and Maine,

2088
01:47:28,667 --> 01:47:31,227
Speaker 5: who'd been setting up centrally, drifted out to the wing

2089
01:47:31,347 --> 01:47:32,227
Speaker 5: and that is a bullet.

2090
01:47:32,267 --> 01:47:34,987
Speaker 2: Had a great goal from Man Elliott a fifty first

2091
01:47:35,027 --> 01:47:37,467
Speaker 2: minute penalty. Looks at to see in the victory top

2092
01:47:37,547 --> 01:47:40,387
Speaker 2: of the A League ladder, but the Phoenix level the

2093
01:47:40,427 --> 01:47:42,547
Speaker 2: scores in the ninety first minute of that goal from

2094
01:47:42,667 --> 01:47:46,227
Speaker 2: nineteen year old Mania Elliott. Coach Paul Temple is with

2095
01:47:46,347 --> 01:47:49,427
Speaker 2: us before the team fly back to New Zealand. Congratulations

2096
01:47:49,467 --> 01:47:51,387
Speaker 2: on the wind, Paul, how do you reflect on getting

2097
01:47:51,427 --> 01:47:54,707
Speaker 2: your first ever point in the state of Victoria.

2098
01:47:55,987 --> 01:48:01,147
Speaker 18: That we had a game plan and the girls were brilliant.

2099
01:48:01,307 --> 01:48:04,267
Speaker 18: I asked them to defend in a certain way to

2100
01:48:04,387 --> 01:48:08,867
Speaker 18: try and create some counter attack opportunities and nullify some

2101
01:48:08,987 --> 01:48:13,187
Speaker 18: of their threats. And in the first half we nullified

2102
01:48:13,227 --> 01:48:15,987
Speaker 18: the threats, but we didn't really create a huge amount

2103
01:48:16,067 --> 01:48:18,827
Speaker 18: with the ball, so we needed to tidy that up

2104
01:48:18,947 --> 01:48:22,147
Speaker 18: and we and we knew that at some point in

2105
01:48:22,227 --> 01:48:24,187
Speaker 18: the game, if we stayed in it for long enough,

2106
01:48:24,307 --> 01:48:26,707
Speaker 18: that we would have some really good impact off the

2107
01:48:26,747 --> 01:48:29,307
Speaker 18: bench and some fresh energy and we could take it

2108
01:48:29,387 --> 01:48:31,547
Speaker 18: to them and see if we could get something. And

2109
01:48:32,427 --> 01:48:36,747
Speaker 18: in the end that plan worked well and we come

2110
01:48:36,787 --> 01:48:40,027
Speaker 18: away over point and arguably could have could have taken

2111
01:48:40,067 --> 01:48:42,667
Speaker 18: all three. We've created some good chances in that last

2112
01:48:42,707 --> 01:48:46,467
Speaker 18: twenty minutes to win the game. But yeah, that we're

2113
01:48:46,507 --> 01:48:50,827
Speaker 18: pretty happy with a point and it's really good growth

2114
01:48:50,947 --> 01:48:53,947
Speaker 18: in terms of the team and where we're at things

2115
01:48:53,987 --> 01:48:55,667
Speaker 18: that we're doing to improve.

2116
01:48:55,867 --> 01:48:55,987
Speaker 17: Well.

2117
01:48:56,027 --> 01:48:57,827
Speaker 2: You talked about the impact there that you got from

2118
01:48:57,867 --> 01:49:01,187
Speaker 2: your substitutes. You're winning all your sorry, the goal, your

2119
01:49:01,187 --> 01:49:03,747
Speaker 2: equalizer was from one of your subs, man Elliott. The

2120
01:49:03,787 --> 01:49:07,347
Speaker 2: cross came in from another sub, Immer Main, So that's

2121
01:49:07,427 --> 01:49:09,987
Speaker 2: great coaching and great use of your subs. How happy

2122
01:49:10,027 --> 01:49:11,707
Speaker 2: were you with the impact you got from your bench?

2123
01:49:12,827 --> 01:49:14,627
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought they were all fantastic.

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Speaker 18: It's hard, you know, because if you start and you

2125
01:49:18,467 --> 01:49:20,987
Speaker 18: do all of that kind of work and then the

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01:49:21,347 --> 01:49:24,747
Speaker 18: subs come on and essentially sort of like take the

2127
01:49:24,827 --> 01:49:28,627
Speaker 18: headlines because obviously Emma put the cross in for Manaiya's

2128
01:49:28,667 --> 01:49:31,707
Speaker 18: header and two subs like making that impact to get

2129
01:49:31,787 --> 01:49:36,067
Speaker 18: us that drawer. Essentially, but everyone contributed to that result

2130
01:49:36,147 --> 01:49:40,187
Speaker 18: that we needed all fifteen players there, and everyone did

2131
01:49:40,227 --> 01:49:42,507
Speaker 18: a great job in terms of helping us get that point.

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01:49:42,667 --> 01:49:46,627
Speaker 18: So the impact off the bench was fantastic. I thought

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01:49:46,667 --> 01:49:49,987
Speaker 18: they were all really good. Member got in the pockets

2134
01:49:50,067 --> 01:49:52,747
Speaker 18: and created stuff and was tidy on the ball and

2135
01:49:53,427 --> 01:49:54,907
Speaker 18: gave us some good full momentum.

2136
01:49:55,027 --> 01:49:58,067
Speaker 3: And Zoe was excellent in terms of just her.

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01:49:58,747 --> 01:50:01,947
Speaker 18: Defensive work getting on the front foot and springboarding down

2138
01:50:01,987 --> 01:50:02,907
Speaker 18: that right hand side.

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Speaker 3: Her and member combination was really good.

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01:50:06,387 --> 01:50:11,947
Speaker 18: And then obviously Manaiah did a great job in terms

2141
01:50:11,987 --> 01:50:15,987
Speaker 18: of just impact in the final third, and it was

2142
01:50:16,027 --> 01:50:18,827
Speaker 18: a really really good goal that she scored, like just

2143
01:50:19,027 --> 01:50:20,507
Speaker 18: the build up to it and the quality of the

2144
01:50:20,587 --> 01:50:23,347
Speaker 18: cross and the header at the far post, so.

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01:50:24,867 --> 01:50:27,827
Speaker 3: Looked really good I thought. I thought the subs had

2146
01:50:27,867 --> 01:50:28,667
Speaker 3: a massive impact.

2147
01:50:28,787 --> 01:50:30,827
Speaker 18: So when you've got that coming off the bench and

2148
01:50:30,907 --> 01:50:33,067
Speaker 18: you can rely on that, it makes a huge difference.

2149
01:50:33,307 --> 01:50:35,947
Speaker 2: Just on Mana Elliot who scored your goal. She started

2150
01:50:35,987 --> 01:50:38,067
Speaker 2: the first three games of the season, but has been

2151
01:50:38,147 --> 01:50:41,427
Speaker 2: used in an impact role in the last three, including

2152
01:50:41,507 --> 01:50:43,707
Speaker 2: last night. How pleased were you for her to get

2153
01:50:43,747 --> 01:50:46,027
Speaker 2: the goal? You know, given the fact that she said

2154
01:50:46,027 --> 01:50:48,227
Speaker 2: it up and down season, probably thought she should have

2155
01:50:48,267 --> 01:50:51,027
Speaker 2: scored a couple earlier on in your campaign.

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01:50:52,147 --> 01:50:54,427
Speaker 18: Yeah, look, if you were an attacker, I think any

2157
01:50:54,987 --> 01:50:56,787
Speaker 18: goal that you get is always going to give you

2158
01:50:56,867 --> 01:50:59,707
Speaker 18: that confidence boost, and you just got to keep putting

2159
01:50:59,707 --> 01:51:03,387
Speaker 18: yourself in those opportunities to score and in the positions

2160
01:51:03,427 --> 01:51:07,827
Speaker 18: to score. And she's she's a really great kid, and

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01:51:07,947 --> 01:51:10,227
Speaker 18: she's got a good attitude, and she's been working really

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01:51:10,307 --> 01:51:14,187
Speaker 18: hard and waiting for opportunities. And so when when you're

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01:51:14,227 --> 01:51:16,107
Speaker 18: in that situation as a young player and you can

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01:51:16,187 --> 01:51:19,147
Speaker 18: take those opportunities like she did tonight, then it puts

2165
01:51:19,147 --> 01:51:21,507
Speaker 18: you in a really good position just to keep getting

2166
01:51:21,547 --> 01:51:24,787
Speaker 18: more game time, more minutes on the pitch, and have

2167
01:51:24,987 --> 01:51:27,907
Speaker 18: more influence on the team. So yeah, I think it's

2168
01:51:29,067 --> 01:51:31,187
Speaker 18: it's great. It's been a it's a good message for

2169
01:51:31,267 --> 01:51:33,827
Speaker 18: all young players, you know. It's you don't always kind

2170
01:51:33,827 --> 01:51:36,227
Speaker 18: of get what you want straight away, and you've got

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01:51:36,307 --> 01:51:36,707
Speaker 18: to work.

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01:51:36,627 --> 01:51:39,467
Speaker 2: Hard for it, and she's done that, and I delighted

2173
01:51:39,507 --> 01:51:41,907
Speaker 2: for her. And now others. I know you've mentioned that

2174
01:51:41,947 --> 01:51:45,147
Speaker 2: everybody played well, but anybody else in particular who caught

2175
01:51:45,187 --> 01:51:48,507
Speaker 2: your eye last night as being particularly influential for you.

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01:51:49,787 --> 01:51:51,947
Speaker 18: I thought it was another really good performance from Flee,

2177
01:51:52,027 --> 01:51:55,787
Speaker 18: you know, she's just getting some really nice consistency now

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01:51:55,947 --> 01:52:01,027
Speaker 18: and playing like game after game after game, and yeah,

2179
01:52:01,067 --> 01:52:03,787
Speaker 18: she's looking really sharp, good on the ball, leading by

2180
01:52:03,867 --> 01:52:08,347
Speaker 18: example like driving the team and again another one like Maya,

2181
01:52:08,427 --> 01:52:11,307
Speaker 18: who I'm using in different positions and different roles every

2182
01:52:11,347 --> 01:52:16,507
Speaker 18: week and just start having them. And yeah, she's really

2183
01:52:17,107 --> 01:52:19,707
Speaker 18: really showing up at the moment and I think that's

2184
01:52:19,747 --> 01:52:21,467
Speaker 18: only a good thing because she's great to watch.

2185
01:52:21,787 --> 01:52:24,547
Speaker 2: Fantastic, Paul, thanks indeed for taking the time for a chat.

2186
01:52:24,587 --> 01:52:26,827
Speaker 2: Safe travels home. That's Paul Temple Flee. By the way,

2187
01:52:27,187 --> 01:52:29,947
Speaker 2: is Annale Longo, the captain of the women's team, who

2188
01:52:30,387 --> 01:52:32,947
Speaker 2: I totally agree had a very influential game last night.

2189
01:52:33,347 --> 01:52:37,947
Speaker 2: A really really good result for Wellington Phoenix women last night.

2190
01:52:37,987 --> 01:52:41,027
Speaker 2: I've never done anything other than lose in the state

2191
01:52:41,067 --> 01:52:44,827
Speaker 2: of Victoria seven games previously seven defeats. Last night the

2192
01:52:44,907 --> 01:52:47,107
Speaker 2: last mine equalizes are getting them a point, means they're

2193
01:52:47,147 --> 01:52:49,547
Speaker 2: unbeaten in their last three matches, having lost their first

2194
01:52:49,587 --> 01:52:52,947
Speaker 2: three of the season. Back home next Sunday where they

2195
01:52:53,027 --> 01:52:57,467
Speaker 2: take on Sydney FC. In fact, that's next Saturday, Sydney

2196
01:52:57,587 --> 01:53:01,067
Speaker 2: FC Pottydoor Park, Sydney f C. The next opponent for

2197
01:53:01,587 --> 01:53:04,867
Speaker 2: the Wellington Phoenix women's side. It is twenty to three.

2198
01:53:04,987 --> 01:53:06,307
Speaker 2: You will take a break and then get your back

2199
01:53:06,467 --> 01:53:09,347
Speaker 2: to Seddon Park in Hamilton. Andrew Ordison is watching a

2200
01:53:09,707 --> 01:53:12,507
Speaker 2: very very good New Zealand batting performance on the first

2201
01:53:12,667 --> 01:53:15,347
Speaker 2: of the third test. Let's get the latest update with

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01:53:15,427 --> 01:53:17,987
Speaker 2: Andrew Ordison when we come back on weekend Sport.

2203
01:53:19,427 --> 01:53:22,307
Speaker 1: You be the TMO have your say on eight hundred

2204
01:53:22,307 --> 01:53:25,347
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty weekends for it with Jason Pin

2205
01:53:25,587 --> 01:53:29,787
Speaker 1: and GJ. Garvnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder News Talks.

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01:53:29,787 --> 01:53:33,827
Speaker 2: There'd be we are we sixteen away from three drinks

2207
01:53:33,907 --> 01:53:37,387
Speaker 2: in the second session at Seddon Park in Hamilton. It's

2208
01:53:37,387 --> 01:53:39,547
Speaker 2: a beautiful day there. We'll get more confirmation from that

2209
01:53:39,627 --> 01:53:41,947
Speaker 2: from Andrew Ordison. Just a second New Zealand one thirty

2210
01:53:41,987 --> 01:53:43,987
Speaker 2: eight for one, one thirty eight for one, marz On

2211
01:53:44,067 --> 01:53:47,227
Speaker 2: techs Piney this batting performance. Where's this been the last

2212
01:53:47,267 --> 01:53:50,107
Speaker 2: two weeks? Andrew Ordison is here? Where has this been

2213
01:53:50,187 --> 01:53:52,387
Speaker 2: the last two weeks? Is the question? Orders?

2214
01:53:53,467 --> 01:53:55,747
Speaker 11: Well, that's right, they've really turned it on today and

2215
01:53:55,787 --> 01:53:58,707
Speaker 11: I guess the switching over the opening partners with the

2216
01:53:58,827 --> 01:54:03,467
Speaker 11: Devin Conway out on paternity leave, and will Young coming

2217
01:54:03,467 --> 01:54:06,307
Speaker 11: into the recting with forty two I think more important

2218
01:54:06,347 --> 01:54:10,227
Speaker 11: one hundred and five run stand for the aid of worker,

2219
01:54:10,307 --> 01:54:12,867
Speaker 11: and I think too it just has an ongoing effect,

2220
01:54:12,947 --> 01:54:15,707
Speaker 11: isn't it. Chuck and Trailer with Kate Williams are coming out.

2221
01:54:15,867 --> 01:54:17,147
Speaker 11: He's probably be able to put the ked lo on,

2222
01:54:17,267 --> 01:54:19,147
Speaker 11: have a cup of tea with his pads on, just

2223
01:54:19,267 --> 01:54:23,107
Speaker 11: relax a touch and he's moved to consequently to seventeen

2224
01:54:23,147 --> 01:54:26,387
Speaker 11: of twenty eight Latham sixty one of one hundred and

2225
01:54:26,427 --> 01:54:29,187
Speaker 11: twenty eight balls. But they've looked in command against the

2226
01:54:29,227 --> 01:54:33,307
Speaker 11: England bowling attack Ponty England just too wayward really at times.

2227
01:54:33,467 --> 01:54:36,307
Speaker 11: I think they've settled down a bit after lunch with

2228
01:54:36,467 --> 01:54:38,707
Speaker 11: some tighter spells and obviously with the dismissal of Young

2229
01:54:39,267 --> 01:54:41,187
Speaker 11: for forty two getting caught by Harry Brook at the

2230
01:54:41,187 --> 01:54:46,067
Speaker 11: second slip of guss Atkinson. But it's certainly been a

2231
01:54:46,147 --> 01:54:48,467
Speaker 11: reassuring display by New Zealand, that's for sure.

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01:54:48,507 --> 01:54:49,307
Speaker 7: To get to that point.

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01:54:49,947 --> 01:54:53,147
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at the bowling figures now and Brighton

2234
01:54:53,267 --> 01:54:55,987
Speaker 2: Cars who's been sort of the destroyer, hasn't he over

2235
01:54:56,027 --> 01:54:58,747
Speaker 2: the first couple of test matches for New Zealand. He

2236
01:54:58,867 --> 01:55:00,947
Speaker 2: hasn't had quite the joint today, going for nearly five

2237
01:55:00,987 --> 01:55:04,987
Speaker 2: and over and the least used of the four English

2238
01:55:05,027 --> 01:55:07,427
Speaker 2: pacement not quite as dated by the sounds of things.

2239
01:55:08,587 --> 01:55:09,027
Speaker 13: Not at all.

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Speaker 11: And I think that they've all probably been guilty of

2241
01:55:11,507 --> 01:55:14,467
Speaker 11: just overpitching sided for drives, but also there's been some

2242
01:55:14,547 --> 01:55:17,067
Speaker 11: whipped outside off stub which really played into the hands

2243
01:55:17,427 --> 01:55:20,227
Speaker 11: of Young but equally later but Young particularly through the

2244
01:55:20,267 --> 01:55:22,347
Speaker 11: off side at one point that I think he had

2245
01:55:22,387 --> 01:55:26,267
Speaker 11: six or seven boundaries just from pretty much mid off

2246
01:55:26,347 --> 01:55:30,067
Speaker 11: through the backward point. But yeah, it's been just that

2247
01:55:30,187 --> 01:55:32,827
Speaker 11: they've given them, they've taken the pressure away really the

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01:55:33,067 --> 01:55:35,187
Speaker 11: England bowlers. They've given me Zealand a bit of a

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01:55:35,267 --> 01:55:36,547
Speaker 11: break in here and there, and he's got to be

2250
01:55:36,547 --> 01:55:39,107
Speaker 11: able to tick the run flow over and that's helped

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01:55:39,307 --> 01:55:41,507
Speaker 11: no end to get them to one thirty eight.

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01:55:41,587 --> 01:55:41,907
Speaker 8: For one.

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01:55:42,987 --> 01:55:46,227
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at Tom Latham and I can never

2254
01:55:46,267 --> 01:55:48,947
Speaker 2: really tell if Tom Latham's inform or out of form

2255
01:55:48,987 --> 01:55:51,667
Speaker 2: if I'm honesty, and his teammates will tell you that

2256
01:55:51,707 --> 01:55:53,587
Speaker 2: when he comes in after getting out, you you wouldn't

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01:55:53,587 --> 01:55:55,267
Speaker 2: know if you didn't know whether he'd been out for

2258
01:55:55,307 --> 01:55:57,787
Speaker 2: a dark or he'd got a century does Tom? Does

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01:55:57,827 --> 01:55:59,507
Speaker 2: Tom Latham look like he's informed to you?

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01:56:01,547 --> 01:56:04,667
Speaker 11: I think he's coming into form. That has been many

2261
01:56:04,707 --> 01:56:06,547
Speaker 11: times in his career. He has been out of much

2262
01:56:07,067 --> 01:56:08,787
Speaker 11: Princess recently has had a bit of a lull, but

2263
01:56:09,187 --> 01:56:13,347
Speaker 11: certainly decent scores in India. But I think he's in

2264
01:56:13,427 --> 01:56:17,107
Speaker 11: pretty good touch today. I think it's more yeah, when

2265
01:56:17,147 --> 01:56:20,187
Speaker 11: he leaves decisively and when he's able to work those

2266
01:56:20,307 --> 01:56:23,187
Speaker 11: early deliveries off his hip or off his legs and

2267
01:56:23,507 --> 01:56:26,027
Speaker 11: is able to tick that scoring over early on, which

2268
01:56:26,027 --> 01:56:27,747
Speaker 11: I suppose is the same for any opener in a way.

2269
01:56:28,667 --> 01:56:32,427
Speaker 11: But lath just when the pressure hasn't quite been on

2270
01:56:32,587 --> 01:56:35,587
Speaker 11: today from England bowling, he seized on that and is

2271
01:56:35,707 --> 01:56:38,747
Speaker 11: really is progressed accordingly, So as I say, sixty one

2272
01:56:38,827 --> 01:56:41,467
Speaker 11: nt out Captain's lock so far out of this one

2273
01:56:41,547 --> 01:56:43,547
Speaker 11: hundred and thirty eight for one, as they're coming back

2274
01:56:43,587 --> 01:56:45,307
Speaker 11: in after the Renk drinks break.

2275
01:56:45,427 --> 01:56:47,787
Speaker 2: Well, it looks great, doesn't it on paper? Midway through

2276
01:56:47,827 --> 01:56:49,707
Speaker 2: the second session on the first day one hundred and

2277
01:56:49,747 --> 01:56:51,907
Speaker 2: thirty eight for one, But as we know orders England

2278
01:56:52,027 --> 01:56:55,227
Speaker 2: advanced test matches, so quickly with the bat that you

2279
01:56:55,347 --> 01:56:57,107
Speaker 2: really need to have a lot of runs on the board,

2280
01:56:57,147 --> 01:56:59,787
Speaker 2: don't you. From this base, it's got to be four

2281
01:56:59,867 --> 01:57:01,387
Speaker 2: hundred plus they're aiming for, doesn't it.

2282
01:57:02,027 --> 01:57:04,187
Speaker 11: That's exactly a number I was thinking of, actually four

2283
01:57:04,267 --> 01:57:06,107
Speaker 11: hundred plus for sure. You've got to be able to

2284
01:57:06,107 --> 01:57:08,867
Speaker 11: put pressure back onto then that's Stokes and McCullum that

2285
01:57:08,947 --> 01:57:11,067
Speaker 11: they deal with that quite often. They use that word

2286
01:57:11,147 --> 01:57:14,467
Speaker 11: the pressure scenario, being able to take pressure and transfer

2287
01:57:14,627 --> 01:57:18,307
Speaker 11: pressure across to the opposition or vice versa. And I

2288
01:57:18,387 --> 01:57:20,067
Speaker 11: think that's the case here. If you put that on

2289
01:57:20,507 --> 01:57:22,147
Speaker 11: and given that they're still going to go we'll try

2290
01:57:22,187 --> 01:57:23,507
Speaker 11: and go to raid it not sich. We're still going

2291
01:57:23,587 --> 01:57:26,387
Speaker 11: to try and play with that positive intent. The wickets

2292
01:57:26,427 --> 01:57:30,027
Speaker 11: may well come. So I was seeing Zach Crawley struggle

2293
01:57:30,027 --> 01:57:33,427
Speaker 11: across the series, but others have had some success. But

2294
01:57:33,547 --> 01:57:35,067
Speaker 11: if they can put that on to Ducket and then

2295
01:57:35,387 --> 01:57:38,947
Speaker 11: even Bethel at first drop, they may have some more success.

2296
01:57:38,987 --> 01:57:41,147
Speaker 11: I mean, it is a dead rubber, so there's less

2297
01:57:41,227 --> 01:57:43,867
Speaker 11: on it. I think Pinty which perhaps helps in terms

2298
01:57:43,907 --> 01:57:48,547
Speaker 11: of mindset. But England and over England is a welcome winning,

2299
01:57:48,907 --> 01:57:50,627
Speaker 11: especially given the new Zealand. Of what they've won the

2300
01:57:50,827 --> 01:57:53,507
Speaker 11: one out of the last seven, which is the tenure

2301
01:57:53,547 --> 01:57:55,947
Speaker 11: when Stokes and McCullum have been in charge of this

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01:57:55,987 --> 01:57:58,787
Speaker 11: England side, and that one, of course was the glorious

2303
01:57:58,827 --> 01:58:01,907
Speaker 11: so one run victory. After following on at the base

2304
01:58:01,987 --> 01:58:05,627
Speaker 11: and Reserve in twenty twenty three and possibly a chance

2305
01:58:05,707 --> 01:58:07,987
Speaker 11: to do it again, he had to actually be able

2306
01:58:08,027 --> 01:58:10,707
Speaker 11: to get another victory to put one back over this

2307
01:58:11,027 --> 01:58:12,147
Speaker 11: successful English side.

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01:58:12,587 --> 01:58:14,347
Speaker 2: What are we now into the forty second over or

2309
01:58:14,427 --> 01:58:16,227
Speaker 2: near the end of the forty second over midway through

2310
01:58:16,267 --> 01:58:19,867
Speaker 2: the second session? Still no shobub Basha. The spin option

2311
01:58:20,347 --> 01:58:22,507
Speaker 2: for England. Can't be too long can it before we

2312
01:58:22,627 --> 01:58:23,027
Speaker 2: see him?

2313
01:58:23,787 --> 01:58:23,827
Speaker 3: No?

2314
01:58:23,947 --> 01:58:25,147
Speaker 7: I would have thought they'll try it soon.

2315
01:58:25,187 --> 01:58:27,827
Speaker 11: I mean, just the way that the comfort that light

2316
01:58:27,867 --> 01:58:29,747
Speaker 11: and Williamson to be able to play with and even

2317
01:58:29,787 --> 01:58:32,027
Speaker 11: young before that, I mean it took a good ball

2318
01:58:32,107 --> 01:58:35,027
Speaker 11: to dismiss him to the hard hands fending it to

2319
01:58:35,827 --> 01:58:39,067
Speaker 11: Brook at second slip. But yeah, I think that this

2320
01:58:39,227 --> 01:58:42,147
Speaker 11: year he had some moments of success in that based

2321
01:58:42,147 --> 01:58:44,467
Speaker 11: and reserve test, so perhaps they'll get him into the

2322
01:58:44,467 --> 01:58:45,227
Speaker 11: action before on.

2323
01:58:45,827 --> 01:58:47,507
Speaker 2: All right, and a solid stuff in New Zealand. What

2324
01:58:47,547 --> 01:58:50,707
Speaker 2: about for the caterer's orders a solid start on day

2325
01:58:50,787 --> 01:58:52,747
Speaker 2: one at Seddon Park during the lunch break.

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Speaker 11: Hea indeed pyt Yeah, excellent. I as I said to

2327
01:58:56,867 --> 01:59:00,027
Speaker 11: you earlier that the curtain raised with the chocolate brown.

2328
01:59:00,067 --> 01:59:03,307
Speaker 11: He was excellent upstairs, but plenty of There's some roast

2329
01:59:03,347 --> 01:59:07,107
Speaker 11: spuds there. There was there was a lamb, there was chicken. Yeah,

2330
01:59:07,187 --> 01:59:09,107
Speaker 11: just the fall and sol all the key food groups.

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01:59:09,147 --> 01:59:09,907
Speaker 7: That's okay.

2332
01:59:10,267 --> 01:59:11,947
Speaker 11: I more than happy party with that.

2333
01:59:12,507 --> 01:59:14,027
Speaker 2: I can tell boil.

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Speaker 11: I've boiled the kettle upstairs, you know. Just living a

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Speaker 11: life of luxury here.

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Speaker 2: What a wonderful way to spend Yeah, what a wonderful

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Speaker 2: way to spend the summer. If only there was more

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Speaker 2: test matches after Christmas.

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Speaker 11: As we we're just we're craving it, aren't we? And

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Speaker 11: it doesn't mean all seriousness. There's a great day for

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01:59:30,867 --> 01:59:32,667
Speaker 11: people here. I mean they're coming out in their drives

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Speaker 11: in Hamilton, just on the embankments, et cetera, in the stands.

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Speaker 11: The sun's out and it's just a perfect fight from

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Speaker 11: mid December leading into Christmas.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent wonderful stuff.

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Speaker 11: Orders.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'm off the here shortly, but we

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Speaker 2: can catch up tomorrow if that works with your schedule

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01:59:47,907 --> 01:59:52,227
Speaker 2: of watching and eating at Hamilton, send and bark. Hope

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Speaker 2: we can chat tomorrow.

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Speaker 11: Indeed, I'm sure we'll. I'm sure we'll be able to

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01:59:56,187 --> 01:59:57,627
Speaker 11: sort of build that into the schedule.

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Speaker 2: I love e Andrew Ortison, our man in Hamilton, read

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Speaker 2: him at inz to heerld dot cod on ins end

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Speaker 2: and here of course here on Newstalks EDB. It's just

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Speaker 2: gone ten to three.

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Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting World

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason five.

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Speaker 4: They call eight hundred and eighty eighty US talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Six and a half away from three. That is US

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Speaker 2: for Weekend Sport for today. We're back tomorrow, by which

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Speaker 2: stage I hope New Zealand have five hundred. I hope.

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether the lab five hundred, but I

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Speaker 2: hope they have plenty of runs for not many wickets.

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Speaker 2: That would be terrific. Regardless of what the case is.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow when we re reconvene at midday, we will cover

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Speaker 2: it off for you also tomorrow on the show. Looking

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Speaker 2: forward to catching up with Tim Bateman. You remember him

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Speaker 2: from his time with the Crusaders. The Hurricanes captain of

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Speaker 2: New Zealand Molly During the week, this news that Ben Cohen,

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Speaker 2: the Rugby World Cup winner in two thousand and three

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Speaker 2: with England, had to sell his medal to survive financially

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Speaker 2: during COVID It kind of got us thinking about the

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Speaker 2: transition of professional sports people into the next part of

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Speaker 2: their lives. Tim Bateman's been a very vocal advocate for

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Speaker 2: wellness in the space. He doesn't have a chat to us.

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Speaker 2: Jake Brimmers on the show Out of Auckland FC and

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Speaker 2: whatever else we come up with. Annie McDonald has done

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Speaker 2: a double shift today. He was pushing the buttons for

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Speaker 2: Jack Tame. He's done it for me as well. You're

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Speaker 2: not carrying on, are you?

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Speaker 1: This is it?

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Speaker 2: You actually get a break now?

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Speaker 19: Well, you know, I do get a break, although i'd

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Speaker 19: i'd love to say six more hours well where we

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Speaker 19: never sleep here, but no, I actually kind of need

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Speaker 19: it a little bit of a breathere. But that's all right,

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Speaker 19: Piney And of course Jack Tame had Aluminope on the

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Speaker 19: show today, but I forget it. It's probably too much

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Speaker 19: on the nose for me to play five Alimentop songs

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Speaker 19: on the station and one.

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Speaker 2: Day as well.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 12: What I mean.

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Speaker 19: I'm not going to what it goes all I'm saying.

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Speaker 19: But you wouldn't put it past me, now, would you. No,

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Speaker 19: I've got the song that. Oh jeez, jeez, I've worked

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Speaker 19: too much. I've got the song today. Piney, you mentioned

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Speaker 19: that as the first time the Phoenix Woman have taken

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Speaker 19: a point home after visiting Victoria. So it's Yes Zealand band,

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Speaker 19: it's the exponents. The song is Victoria, so honor them

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Speaker 19: on the achievement.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Great tune and a great result from the Wellington Phoenix

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Speaker 2: Woman last night. Thanks Saidie. Enjoy a relaxing afternoon. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for tuning in. We'll see themorrow at midday. Buck

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Speaker 2: now as romance bloom.

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Speaker 8: Sunday's up from washing and doing them over talking.

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Speaker 2: To our friends from the teller. Another shirt brings.

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Speaker 11: Up what.

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Speaker 1: For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live

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Speaker 1: to news Talks it Be Weekends from midday, or follow

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