1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Jamie McKay Hosts of the Countries with us. Now, hey, Jamie, 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: that's how you get six hundred grandly watched the pennies 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: and the pounds look after themselves? Who right, and then 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: you can make it a lot more than that. Jamie. 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: That's very good advice. Thank you for that. Listen. I 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: hear that there's some talk of us getting into who 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: who grubbed farming? Is this going to take off? Well? 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: I don't know who knew it was a thing I 9 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: picked up on a story online. And the good news 10 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: about who who grub farming, Heather is it could solve 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: a very troubling forestry slash problem. So who who grubs 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: have been a valuable and sustainable food sauce here in 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: New Zealand. Maori had long held that who who grubs 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: and nutritious and safe for human consumption, and the environmental 15 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: benefit is that basically you feed him up on the 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: forestry slash. And I didn't realize this either, but some 17 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: guy by the name of Patrick Clements as far back 18 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: as the early nineteen eighties was writing in the New 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: Zealand Farmer suggesting that we should be farming who who grubb? 20 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: And he makes where he made an important for converting 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: wood to edible proteins because grubs are rich in proteins, 22 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: minerals and fats. In fact, who who grubs heather who 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: knew this have high proteins or proteins as high as 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: thirty percent. That's higher than beef, lamb chicken, and chickpeas. 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: They're also rich in amino acids, and insects around the 26 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: world have been domesticated. I guess you have to tame 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: who who grubs before you eat them, and they're being 28 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: farmed sustainably. But in all seriousness, I think letting the 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: who who grubs domestically farming them and letting them loose 30 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 1: on the forestry slash is a great way to convert 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: wasted wood into proteins. Sounds smart. Have you ever tried one? No, 32 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: and I don't want to. Well, there's your problem, Jamie, 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: is that it's going to the mindset shift that you 34 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: have to take to eat one of these things that 35 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: does not look like something you would normally. Putting him 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: out is quite a lot. Yeah, but we might be 37 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: able to export Whoho grub to other places around world 38 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: where people don't give a tough about gecking grubs. Yeah, 39 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: I like that. Hays Ban Aaron who who grubs farming? 40 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: Jeez Jamie, when you put your money there, I will 41 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: put it in my mouth. And let's just say it 42 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: like that. Okay. If I see you backing this as 43 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: an export idea, I'm going to eat one for you. 44 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: Listen to the live exports. The demand is waiting for this, apparently, 45 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: is it. Yeah, Well, you might remember that the Labor 46 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: government put a ban on live animal exports by sea 47 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: in April of last year. The current government's talking about 48 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: reopening this and this is and you and I have 49 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: discussed this before. It's been very divisive in the New 50 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: Zealand farming community. It's almost fifty to fifty split down 51 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: the middle. Look, it was worth potentially five hundred million 52 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: to US half a billion a year. But what a 53 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: latest story just released report from Ravo Bank is saying 54 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: is that the demand has slowed to a trickle in 55 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: China for our dairy heifers. Because that's basically what we 56 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: were sending over there. So even if we do re 57 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: state this previously lucrative a live dairy trade the heifers 58 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 1: to China, we may not get much demand because look 59 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: back and back in twenty twenty two it peaked it 60 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: this is out of Australasia, US and the ossis two 61 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty thousand head. We've sent eight hundred and 62 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand dairy heifers from Australia and New Zealand and 63 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: the five years up to twenty twenty three. However, as 64 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: I said, it's just it's trickled to a holt now 65 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: annual decline of eighty three percent. These cows, all these 66 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: dairy heifers were worth US three thousand dollars, that's like 67 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: over five grand and our money. But now they've last 68 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: year they fell to fifteen hundred. So even if we 69 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: were reinstate this we may not have a market. Jamie, 70 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: thank you, appreciate it. 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