1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Now do you remember the time that Leo mLOY breached 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: name suppression and got fined fifteen thousand dollars by the courts? 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Well four years on and he's just been pinged again, 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: and this time it's by the Veterinary Council of New 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: Zealand who've ordered him to pay twenty three thousand dollars. 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Leomloy is with us. 7 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 2: Hello Leo Heather, how are you today? 8 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm very well, thank you? Are you going to pay this? 9 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: Well, they haven't built me yet, but when they build 10 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: me I expect I probably will. Why Well, I still 11 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: kind of register even though I'm registered as a retired vet. 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: I don't really want to lose my title. We don't 13 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: want to be struck warfing like that. 14 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: So is it worth it twenty three thousand dollars to 15 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: stay in the register? 16 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I never never use that for leverage, 17 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: but in my view, once you're a vet, you're always 18 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: a vet, and it's a little bit of a bond 19 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: between us, so I would have thought it's worth it. 20 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: So what is the twenty three thousand dollars for? 21 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: Just legal fees? It's just those lunatics from Crown Prosecution 22 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: Services down there in Wellington who they pursued the whole 23 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: thing right from the start, never been about other veteran 24 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: and it's not one veterinarian even complained about what I did, 25 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: and not one member of the public complained for that matter. 26 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 2: But a registrar who was himself a lawyer named Liam 27 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: Shields I think his name was. He contacted us about 28 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: four years ago and said we're going to interview you, 29 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: going to come and see you, which we did, and 30 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 2: then he said a letter about six months later saying 31 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: we're going to pursue these charges and this has taken 32 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: this long for us to get around the table. 33 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: But angers so, how are their legal costs that the 34 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: Veterinary Council has incurred. 35 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: That's a very good question, and that maybe one that's 36 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: being contemplated across the industry today because I've had a 37 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: lot of vets in touch with me and they're all 38 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: expressing their dismay at what happened. Because see, we live 39 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: in the vetery profession. There's only fifty people went through 40 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: in myyar. Ten percent of them are dead, all by 41 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: their own hand. I might have, but that's a bit 42 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: of a digression, so we won't go there, but ten 43 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: percent of them are dead, so forty five or left them. 44 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: They had a reunion about four months ago. We had 45 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: some dialogue after that, but a mutual chat site thing 46 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: on WhatsApp, and it was quite interesting talking to them 47 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: about what was going on and how a lot of 48 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: people sort of feel like the've lost control of the industry. 49 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: The Veterinary Council now seems to run its own race, 50 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: and as you get a certain type of veterinarian who 51 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 2: wants to be an adjudicator. So two of the five 52 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: year stay on the panel were adjudicators, were vets. Yeah, 53 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: the other three we are sorry, three of the five. 54 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: Two of the five were lawyers, and I think there 55 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: was a sixth lawyer there too, a sixth person who 56 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: is a lawyer. But yeah, it's all about the lawyers. 57 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: They tend to make all the rules now and they 58 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: just proceed. So when your registrar is a lawyer, to okay. 59 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: But in all like, genuinely you have no idea how 60 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: the Veterinary Council has incurred legal fees with regards to 61 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: your breach of you breaching name suppression. 62 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: Well, this guy's name was Finley Biggs and he's got 63 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: facial hair. I'm not sure what to read into that, 64 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 2: but I'm always deeply suspicious of a mammoth facial hair. 65 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 2: If Williamson still got facial hair, I'm not quite sure 66 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: about that now. No, No, that fellow that you're going 67 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: to have next on the. 68 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: Huddle, Oh Morris, I don't know what I asked, Morris. 69 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, to be suspicious of those sort of people. 70 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: But you know this Finlay, big rooster, he said around 71 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 2: the show yesterday, and he had a fair bit to say. 72 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: All they didn't know much about vetingy matters. He was 73 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: very much into the technical legal elements. And we spent 74 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: about four and a half hours zooming. And of the 75 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: four and a half hours, they took a forty five 76 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: minute break from morning teen and they took an hour's 77 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: break for lunch. About half a time was just spent 78 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 2: doing what you're doing. And when they come back, they 79 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: said that you were going to pay forty five percent 80 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: of our cost, which will be eighteen thousand or something. Plush, 81 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: you're getting fined another five thousand dollars for the cost 82 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: of the hearing today. 83 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: I tell you what, you sound remarkably chill about it Leo, 84 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Leo malloy, retired vet and best 85 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: of luck with it. 86 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, Listen live to 87 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: news Talks It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 88 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio