1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: The Whole Aching Big Show with Jason, Mike and Kyzy. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Tune in week days at four on Radio Hold. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: Iky Guns Roses there on the Radio Hodarchy Big Show 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: this Monday afternoon. 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 3: The time is five thirty eight. Hey, feel is the 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 3: sign for this? What's on the news with me? Kuzy? 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: That's right? What's on the news? Are we still doing this? 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: Jay? 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 3: Not at the start? 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 4: Man? 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 3: Not at the No? What Sorry? What he means is 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: are we still doing this? Are we? That's just not 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: how it came across. Yeah, what he's saying is but 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: it was just the tone. Sorry, Yeah, I got my 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: tone wrong. 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 2: Are we still doing this? 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? That sounded worse. 18 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: I did it? 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: No? Sorry? Can I Yes? Are we still doing this? 20 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: You guys do like I. 21 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: Thought we kicked this to the kid? 22 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: No he didn't. What do you mean I thought we 23 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 3: kicked them to the gub. No we didn't. We're still 24 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: doing it? I can though. Do you want me to 25 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: Is it current? Well, of course it's current. It's what's 26 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: in the news with me? Keesy. 27 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 4: Well, if you give me a chance to read the 28 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 4: article we'll get you might find that it's actually, like 29 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 4: really interesting, It's super informative. All right, here we go, fellows. 30 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: Scientists, Oh god, sounds like sounds like one of his 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: stories he tells when he's with the ladies. 32 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 3: One word fake news. 33 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: It's not fake news, it's real. Scientists have discovered that hedgehogs. 34 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: Who's what. Scientists is discovering headgehogs? No, will you let 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: me finish the sentence? Many were They've been around for ages. 36 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: This is a problem with the SEMs. 37 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: The problem is getting a man who has been hedgehogs. 38 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: The problem is before there was headhogs. Well, we don't 39 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: know if hedgehogs pre date man. I mean, that's you know, 40 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: how the hell we spoke? 41 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: What did the scientists say? 42 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 4: Well, if you let me finish it. Scientists have discovered 43 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 4: that hedgehogs can hear ultrasonic sounds up to about eighty 44 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 4: five killers. 45 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: I know what you're doing, far beyond. 46 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 4: The human hearing limit of twenty killer herds. They've just 47 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 4: found out that hedgehogs. 48 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: No, don't do it. I don't know if you're talking. 49 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: Are you sitting this up? You're sitting this up for 50 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: a sonic the hedgehog gig? Oh my god, that's hilarious. 51 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: I actually not LOGI, I actually wasn't. 52 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 4: So they've discovered that basically, hdgeholes can hear four times 53 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 4: higher register ultra. 54 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: Hedgehogs don't have ears. 55 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 3: What do you mean they don't? 56 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 2: Have you? Have you ever seen a hedgehog wandering around 57 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: your backyard a. 58 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 3: Couple of flappers on it, looking at you and saying sorry, 59 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 3: what was that? 60 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 2: Well? 61 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 4: No, I haven't, because they're nocturnal and I'm not out 62 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: the nighttime. 63 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question in response to this news, keezy, 64 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: what difference does that make to me one way or 65 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: the other. Well, it's just interesting. It's just what was 66 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: in the news. I don't care if I'm gonna hear 67 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: my thoughts. Well it can't, I bloody. 68 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: I hope for the hedgehogs sake, it can hear my 69 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: thoughts right now. 70 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: We're actually just reading here. 71 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: Hedgehogs do heavy is they have specialized bones that efficiently 72 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: transmit high frequency sound, similar to animals like bats. So 73 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 4: the reason this is good is because in the UK 74 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: hedgehogs are about to go extinct. They're really worried about them, 75 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 4: and so they can put up things like ultrasonic fences 76 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 4: almost that stop them from running onto roads and stuff. 77 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: I'll give you a specialized bone, Maggie. That was what 78 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: was in the news with me Kezy fair back tomorrow. Yeah, yes, 79 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: so good. 80 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: Here's Green Day the whole Ichy Big Show week days 81 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: from four on Radio. 82 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: Hot count Garden there on the radio. Hold Aki Big 83 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: Show this Wednesday night. But right now it's time for. 84 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: Sixty Get in touch. Don't with the fellas good. I've 85 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: already done my job, so he doesn't need to do. 86 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: I think it's better with us singing. 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Man. 94 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 3: It also says that this person thinks you're a handsome 95 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 3: young feeler. 96 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: She didn't say young, she said you're a very handsome. 97 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: Man, handsome little fellow. Oh okay. 98 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 4: A long time listener to the podcast as a Kiwi 99 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 4: who lives in London. Backbone cheers and back visiting New 100 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 4: Zealand with my partner and our son visiting for a 101 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 4: couple of weeks. 102 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: Back in New Zealand. 103 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 4: How do we divide our time fairly amongst visiting each 104 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 4: other's families across the South Island? If you know what 105 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 4: I mean with you? Two weeks they're back in New Zealand. 106 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 4: How do they divide their time fearly? 107 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: Where do their families live? South Island? Are ones that 108 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: have the cargo? Ones in Marlborough sounds? I don't know, 109 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: am Blenham. What you could do? 110 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: Just flag the family? 111 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 4: Yeah right, well that's the whole purpose of coming back 112 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 4: to New Zealand, wouldn't it be? 113 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: Is it? 114 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 4: Well? 115 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: They are two Kiwis living in London, Yes, with a child. 116 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 3: Probably want to bring the child back? Just with my dad. 117 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 3: Mogi's just yelling random stuff of Yeah. 118 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: I think he's actually finally cracked. Actually, to be honest 119 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 2: with you, he's finally cracked. 120 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: I would say, get the families together in one area. 121 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: You know what I would do, keysy man? What's that? 122 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: I get them together in one area. The trick would 123 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 3: be to go somewhere nice, somewhere that people like to 124 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: go on a holiday. Get yourself a nice house there, 125 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 3: not ear B and B because they're thieves, corrimandal, something 126 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: on those lines. And then they can just come and 127 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: stay with you, and you can decide on how much 128 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: time they come and spend with you. 129 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 4: South Islands. Make it easy for them. Maybe you do 130 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 4: go like a knight, like Kaiitii or something like that. 131 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. And people have got to 132 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: work as well. But who are you coming home at 133 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: this time a year and expecting everybody to just drop 134 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 3: everything you spend time with you? 135 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: Are you expecting when little Keyesy comes? It's pretty close? Now, 136 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: what do you mean? 137 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 3: It's pretty close? I'm not having a kid. 138 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: I can see there being a real tag of war 139 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: with appearents. 140 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 4: Yes, between my parents and my wife's parents. 141 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think so a massive tag of war war. 142 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: Why is it a tug of war? No, they know 143 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: they get on great, it's a battle for custody. Well 144 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 3: hang on, let's take a war and instead of a rope, 145 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: they're holding on to the limbs of your baby, So 146 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: hang on. 147 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 4: So now I'm having a child and I've already got 148 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 4: a custody battle. 149 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: On my hands. It's not looking good. He sure you 150 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: know what's park this yarn. I've just seen four little 151 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: keysy getting He's the one caught up in the middle 152 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: of all this. Poor fella. Oh it doesn't stand a chance. Yeah, look, 153 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: I hope that. I hope that helps, all. 154 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: Right, the whole Ache Big Show with Jason, Mike and Keyzy. 155 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: Tune in week days at four on Radio Hold. 156 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: Indeed Temple of the Dog there on the radio Hold 157 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: Archy Big Show. There's Tuesday afternoon. The time is five 158 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: thirty eight. 159 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: What's on then? Yeah, News with me Jeezy. 160 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 4: That's right, fellas the new segment where I just sort 161 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 4: of keep everyone a breast of what's happening in the world, important. 162 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: Stories from across the globe. What's on the news with 163 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: me from a year ago? 164 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 4: No, that was one time. It wasn't from a year ago. 165 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 4: The study was from a year ago. Jays, don't this 166 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 4: is what you did yesterday. You just threw off my 167 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 4: segment before I even had a chance to start. You're 168 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: set him out to fail him in. 169 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: This is already old news now banging on. I'm been 170 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 3: trying it. Ah news today failers. 171 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: Mogie from where? 172 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 3: What do you mean? From where? What's your source? 173 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 4: It's about five different articles here, Reuter's being one of them. 174 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 3: It pronounced Rooters, is it sorry? 175 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 4: Rout As being one of them, the Herald stuff, a 176 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 4: few other sources as well. 177 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 3: Jason, is that all good for you? Man? I didn't 178 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 3: want to bloody, just get. 179 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 4: Saucers and then God get a Fellers? What started doing? 180 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 4: What's on the dinner with me? 181 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 3: Keesy? Just then by accident? All credibility here? 182 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 4: Okay, right here we go. People think they know who 183 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: Banks he is. Us today people think they have figured 184 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: out who Banks he is. They've identified him as a 185 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 4: chap named Robin Gunningham. 186 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: The reason is in the year two thousand. 187 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 4: N I believe he was in New York for fashion week, 188 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 4: he spotted a Mark Jacob's billboard, this feller right up 189 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 4: on one of the buildings. He then broke into the 190 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: building or found his way in there, got up to 191 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 4: the top and vandalized it and changed the mouth to 192 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 4: have like goofy teeth, and he got arrested for it. 193 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 4: He there's like a photo taken with his name and etcetera, etcetera. 194 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: And then someone's. 195 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 4: Figured out by going through old files it's the same guy, 196 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 4: and they've cross referenced his travel history and stuff, and 197 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 4: he has been in certain locations at the same time 198 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 4: as banks The artworks have appeared this guy, but he 199 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 4: since changed his name and his lawyer, Banksy's lawyers are like, hey, 200 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 4: can we keep this guy anonymous, like, you know, it's 201 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 4: important for his safety and freedom expression, etcetera. 202 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 3: Why does he have. 203 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: To change his name when he goes by Banksy? 204 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 3: Well, that's not his name, it's like a tag. 205 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: I know, I know that's so, But why is he 206 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 2: changing his name because people only know him as Banksy? 207 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 4: Well, I think he changed his name because he was 208 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 4: arrested and people were onto him with his former name 209 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 4: this what was it, Robin? You know, it was Robin 210 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 4: gunning him. So he changed his name from that because 211 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 4: he was worried that people would figure you know, right, 212 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 4: But there's no still no confirmations that it's definitely him. 213 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: And then what happened, Well, I don't know. It's not 214 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: a story. This is news. It's not like a bedtime story. 215 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 3: I thought there must be more to it, Yeah, that 216 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: there would be something to it. 217 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 2: Conclusion or something. So there's a guy and he may 218 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: have changed his name according to. 219 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: Some people, twenty five years ago. So this is what 220 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 3: we're talking about with this old news. This isn't old news. 221 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 3: It's important. It's important stuff and interesting. 222 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 2: I've known who Banks he is for thirty years? Does 223 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: anyone care? 224 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: Since you were nine years Keezy? 225 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 4: Okay, look, why don't you give me a guideline of 226 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: what kind of news you guys are interested in? 227 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 3: This is your segment, mate, Well, there's my segment. 228 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 4: But I just feel like I'm constantly under delivering, even 229 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 4: though I think it's really interesting, especially yesterday with the hedgehogs. 230 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: Old Banks, Hey Eh, what the wold? 231 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: Aching Big Show with Jason, Mike and Kezy. Tune in 232 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: week days and four on Radio Hodaki