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Speaker 1: The government have set the stage for their Q three

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Speaker 1: plan to focus on restoring law and order, public gam

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Speaker 1: packed ban of course, alongside giving police more power to

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Speaker 1: get guns out of hands with criminals. Among the changes

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Speaker 1: on the way. Mark Mitchell is the Police Minister and

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Speaker 1: he is with us Mark morning.

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Speaker 2: Hey youpling Mike.

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Speaker 1: How much of what you're wanting to do is about

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Speaker 1: passing a new law versus just having a word with

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Speaker 1: the police to say get on and do this.

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Speaker 2: It's a combination of both. So obviously my leader expectation

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Speaker 2: was delivered and due to he's immediately in terms of

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Speaker 2: how the police are policing the gangs, the game convoys,

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Speaker 2: their tonguies, how we get on top of the boy races.

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Speaker 2: So those are things operationally can happen immediately. Obviously, a

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Speaker 2: big part of the public safety program we've got is

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Speaker 2: around the legislation, and a lot of that legislation as

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Speaker 2: part as making its way through Parliament, but it'll be

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Speaker 2: out in this in the third quarter. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I feel that we're starting to see some change. I

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Speaker 1: mean I've got some stats later on that shows that

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Speaker 1: the ram raids are down and and that sort of

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Speaker 1: thing you saw the cars over the weekend. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can't argue with that. There's clearly a lot of

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Speaker 1: work to do, but it's starting clearly to have an impact.

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Speaker 2: Well. Absolutely, And the thing that I've been really pleased

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Speaker 2: about is there's been a lot of nassas out there

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Speaker 2: and the narrative has been looking police have lost the

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Speaker 2: ability to police the gangs and they're too strong. I

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Speaker 2: think in the last six months, have police has shown

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Speaker 2: clearly that they are one of the best most professional

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Speaker 2: police forces we have or there is in the world,

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Speaker 2: and they have been very, very effective. And yes, definitely,

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Speaker 2: without a doubt, I'm starting to see change. There's a

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Speaker 2: long way to go. We're not there yet, and we

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Speaker 2: just focused and making sure that we continued roly at

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Speaker 2: our public safety program. Legislation's part of that. But yes,

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, we are starting to see change.

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Speaker 1: Have they been hamstrung? Have they been wanting to do

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Speaker 1: this but under a previous government, previous ideology they were

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Speaker 1: just held back from it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely. I mean I've I always said we were

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Speaker 2: in an opposition that the police are trying to do

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Speaker 2: their job with one hand tied behind their back. They

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Speaker 2: hadn't been supported proper by the rest of the justice system,

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Speaker 2: and those changes are still happening, but you know, they

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Speaker 2: got frustrated because of that. They're very effective. They identify

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Speaker 2: the offenders, they'll arrest of them, I charge them, they'll

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Speaker 2: opposed bail and then we then seeing two hours often

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Speaker 2: the backup offending. We just got to fixed that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh and then and and that's the problem, which

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Speaker 1: is to a degree beyond your control. Parcel the laws

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Speaker 1: be as prescriptive as you want. Do you think the

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Speaker 1: court and the judges get it and they're going to

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Speaker 1: do something about it.

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Speaker 2: I think they're starting to. The system still isn't for me.

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Speaker 2: As the police minister, I'm starting to see change without

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Speaker 2: a doubt. At a minister in the government level, I've

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Speaker 2: certainly been very clear, have been backed up by the

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister that these youth offenders, these these violent youth

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Speaker 2: you know, the worst violent youth offenders, retail youth offenders,

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Speaker 2: they can't put back in the community. We actually have

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Speaker 2: to get them into a residence and we have to

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Speaker 2: start investing in them to try and make any good

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Speaker 2: decisions in their lives. But these, yeah, the residius violent

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Speaker 2: youth offenders. You know they are often involved in multiple

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Speaker 2: aggravated broberies or retail crime. And to get the community

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Speaker 2: immediately safe, to look after our shop keepers who turned

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Speaker 2: up each day and work hard, we've actually just got

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Speaker 2: to get them off the straights. And so I rang

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Speaker 2: a tumrick. You're starting to respond, the system is starting

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Speaker 2: to respond. We're not there yet, but we're definitely moving

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Speaker 2: in that direction.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you're too busy to watch the Prime minister's

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Speaker 1: postcamp press conference yesterday, but yet again he was peopled

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Speaker 1: with questions around the whole boot camp thing. It's not

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Speaker 1: called a boot camp. It's called an academy. You called

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Speaker 1: it academy. It's not a boot camp. That people still

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Speaker 1: don't want to get it, do they?

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Speaker 2: No, they don't. And look, you've got that there's people

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Speaker 2: out there that just want to shoot it down. And

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Speaker 2: I'm a huge believer in I've got a lot of

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Speaker 2: work into this policy. I've been involved in the Limited

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Speaker 2: Service volunteer program that's been highly successful with young people

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Speaker 2: seventeen plus who've gone off the rails a bit. Some

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Speaker 2: of them even have been in jail. So we're sort

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Speaker 2: of taking pieces of that and we're putting a program

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Speaker 2: together that we believe that we need to invest in

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Speaker 2: these young people. Up until now has not been working.

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Speaker 2: And I think that this program is going to be

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Speaker 2: very successful and it's going to give them the best opportunity,

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Speaker 2: in the best chance to start making good decisions in

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Speaker 2: their lives and not bad ones.

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Speaker 1: That's absolutely okay. We'll catch up tomorrow, mate, appreciate it

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Speaker 1: very much. Make Metell police minister back with the politics win.

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