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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Taine podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at b.

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Speaker 2: Against That Voice say So Pure, so Beautiful. One of

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Speaker 2: our Theodore is all time favorite bands for Patrol is back.

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Speaker 2: They first appeared back in nineteen ninety eight with the

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Speaker 2: Star offter Ep and their legacy demands all sorts of

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Speaker 2: respect three albums and songs that top the charts in

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Speaker 2: the naughties. But Fur Patrol is going to be touring

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Speaker 2: New Zealand later this year. But the guitar, the attitude

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Speaker 2: and that killer voice front woman Julia Dean's is with

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Speaker 2: us this morning.

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Speaker 3: Kyodo, good morning, Nice to be here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nice to see you in person and fantastic to

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Speaker 2: hear that you guys are going to be playing on stage.

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Speaker 2: Is this the first time in two years?

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Speaker 4: Am I right? And thinking yeah?

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Speaker 3: Or if you? Or the second time in a gazillion?

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Speaker 4: If yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you last for Patrol will last together in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two? What was it about that experience that

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Speaker 2: made you think this would be fun and worthwhile?

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Speaker 3: So? I think one of them is the fact. One

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Speaker 3: of the things is that we just we're actually like

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Speaker 3: siblings and when we get together it's just it's like

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Speaker 3: being back in the family again, and everything just kind

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Speaker 3: of locks into place, and just all the stupidity happens,

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Speaker 3: like the good stupid yeah, and the other is yeah.

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Speaker 3: We just and we loved play together. But also when

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Speaker 3: we did those shows for the pet anniversary tour, the

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Speaker 3: feedback that we were getting from the audience is just

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Speaker 3: like it was like walking into a big love fest.

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Speaker 3: Everyone was so excited and so happy. And I actually

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Speaker 3: just posted I was looking back through the photos that

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Speaker 3: our friend Nick took and came with us on the tour,

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Speaker 3: and he took all these amazing photos of the audience

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Speaker 3: and just the faces of utter joy and delight. I

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Speaker 3: just posted a whole lot of them on my Instagram

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Speaker 3: the other day because it was just like, these are

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Speaker 3: beautiful and I can get like little friendly goosebumping feelings

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Speaker 3: just thinking about it. It's just, you know, everyone sang

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Speaker 3: all the words, even to like the most obscure songs

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Speaker 3: on the record kind of thing. So we're hoping that

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Speaker 3: we can sort of generate that buzz again. And with

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Speaker 3: our second album, which was Collider, which is now twenty

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Speaker 3: years old.

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Speaker 4: Come on, twenty years is nothing, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Which wasn't as commercially. There's so much of a hit

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Speaker 3: as as pat But I don't know. We love it, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we love it, and we know we know we've got

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Speaker 3: people that were messaging us after the last.

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Speaker 2: Two Yeah, had you not anticipated that response?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I think we were more thinking more about ourselves and

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Speaker 3: how much fun we were going to have. And then

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Speaker 3: once we you know, so like hit the stage and

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Speaker 3: just met everyone and you know, on the stage and

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Speaker 3: in the audience and that beautiful kind of bubble, it's like,

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Speaker 3: that's right, that's what this is like. Yeah, yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: it's a good communal experience because it's not just us

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Speaker 3: having a blast, it's the fact that we look down

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Speaker 3: as everyone else having a blast, and then that just

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Speaker 3: makes us feel better, and then that makes them feel

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Speaker 3: better and then you just got little happy feedback loop.

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Speaker 4: What does good stupidity look like? What does good stupidity mean?

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Speaker 3: It feels like sore core muscles, you know, when you've

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Speaker 3: been laughing so hard that you just like stop.

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Speaker 2: That is the best pain in the world is Isn't

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Speaker 2: that an amazing feeling when you when you when you

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Speaker 2: literally you can feel the physical effect of having hung

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Speaker 2: out with people you love.

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely. I mean, you know you've been all that

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Speaker 3: time with your eyes screwed up tight because you're sleep.

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Speaker 3: Your mouth's open really wide, making these horrendous noises that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, laughing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so twenty years. So that means that since nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety eight the Starle off Threep, your first big release.

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Speaker 4: Is twenty six years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So yes, what is the.

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Speaker 2: Kind of nosty older element? Do you think there's like

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a real kind of because the reason

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Speaker 2: couple of videos of videos on YouTube, and I had

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Speaker 2: looked up in ages and I was looking at Lydia

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Speaker 2: I was an exchange student in New Zealand when this

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Speaker 2: was released, and it's amazing how this song to me

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Speaker 2: just brings back, you know, just brings back this incredible

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Speaker 2: volume of memories from that time. And I wondered how

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Speaker 2: many times that kind of story doesn't have to be

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Speaker 2: someone from overseas or anything has been repeated, and there's

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Speaker 2: a kind of that that that early aughts nostalgia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Often we get people, you know, have done for years,

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Speaker 3: people coming and saying, oh, we played your song at

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Speaker 3: our wedding. Oh I remember I just moved to blah

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Speaker 3: all those sort of life moments. It's funny, though, somebody

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Speaker 3: who told me years ago that you don't understand what

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Speaker 3: nostalgia really is until about the age of forty. I

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Speaker 3: think somewhere around the age of forty was it just

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Speaker 3: oh my god, No, I know what they meant. No,

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Speaker 3: I really understand what nostalgia actually is.

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Speaker 2: Is it better to have someone playing your song at

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Speaker 2: their wedding or through their breakup?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Both?

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Speaker 4: Do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's good that you can exist in both those spaces.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay. So also, you know, particularly with Lydia, it's

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Speaker 3: like you played this as if you heard the lyrics

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Speaker 3: as your wedding does. Yeah, or somebody walked down the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it can be. It can be both pretty

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Speaker 4: and I suppose yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess that's it is. You know,

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Speaker 3: that whole idea of a song. It's like smell. I

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Speaker 3: guess music can be like scent. You know, these things

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Speaker 3: that trigger a whole cascade of memories and emotions. It's

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Speaker 3: that same powerful thing, especially when you hear something. I

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Speaker 3: That's a really formative time of life and sort of

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Speaker 3: an adult. And so I guess all those experiences have

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Speaker 2: But don't they say that the whatever album you listen

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Speaker 2: to at seventeen, you'll be listening to it at seventeen. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but that's the that's the kind of whatever it is

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Speaker 2: about that that stage of life. I know you love

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Speaker 2: them like brothers, you said, Andrew and Simon, But what

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Speaker 2: was it like playing with them versus writing your own

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's it's way more companionable and fun and prone

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Speaker 3: to a little bickering. But that's okay.

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Speaker 4: What does what does a little bicker look like?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: What's the sort of thing that you were bicker over?

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Speaker 2: Give us give us a sense of how trivia all

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I can't even define it. Just stupid things,

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Speaker 4: You didn't carry that amp or.

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Speaker 3: Like, No, we're actually pretty We've always been reasonably good

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Speaker 4: It feels like a real strategic move. Don't tell them, sorry, guys. Ah,

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Speaker 2: Another thing that struck me just just going back through YouTube,

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Speaker 2: but I just as you do, is how music videos

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Speaker 4: But it feels like music videos don't hold the same place.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think they do. And I think a

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Speaker 3: to help sell it. Blah blah blah. But now that

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Speaker 2: And do you think as a result that the kind

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Speaker 3: I think when you actually are going to put the

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Speaker 3: Otherwise it's there's a whole lot of like with a lyric,

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Speaker 4: So what can we expeak from the shows?

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Speaker 3: Fun?

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Speaker 4: Good with the capital F you and only a small

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Speaker 4: amount of bickering from those on stage.

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Speaker 3: Usually it's when I'm talking too much in between songs

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Speaker 3: and then just Simon just starts counting in with it.

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Speaker 4: Hi, does it do that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And do you ever like try and push him so

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Speaker 3: I think probably more now than I And I think

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Speaker 3: the problem from that is that I've gotten used to being,

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Speaker 3: for me, Simon's just there. Oh come on.

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Speaker 2: And it's not just if he's if he's counting you in,

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Speaker 4: That's when you really need to worry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I look, I know, I know so many people

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Speaker 3: Thank you thanks for having me in a treat.

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Speaker 2: are going to be performing in Lyttleton, Tarmackee, Makoto, Auckland,

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