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Speaker 1: Good evening at a seven after five. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: the Nelson Tasman Civil Defense Controllers shortly. First, Wellington Councilor

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Speaker 1: Raychung's menoral campaigners in tatters this afternoon. One of his

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Speaker 1: key backers this is Mark de Naichick. He's formally withdrawn

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Speaker 1: his public support after today's email scandal. If you're just

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Speaker 1: catching up, it was revealed this morning Counselor Chung spread

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Speaker 1: gossip about Tory Farno. This was in an email to

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Speaker 1: other Wellington counselors in twenty twenty three. In it, he

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Speaker 1: claimed Tory had quote drug fueled tempestuous sex and made

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Speaker 1: references to her having pendulous soft breasts. This was reported

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Speaker 1: to him, apparently by a friend and neighbor. She categorically

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Speaker 1: denies this, and Rag Chang is with me.

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Speaker 2: Now, Hi Ray, Hi Ryan. How are you going?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Good? Thanks? How are you going?

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Speaker 2: Oh it's been a very hard couple of days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah as it?

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Speaker 2: Oh yep, certainly not over yet.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you'll pull out of the race?

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Speaker 2: No? No, no, I no, not at all.

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Speaker 1: You lost your big donor, right.

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Speaker 2: I haven't actually spoken to him yet, but that's what

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Speaker 2: I've That's what I've been told by by who actually

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Speaker 2: told me, uh, Ethan Mania from from the Herald? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: yeah right.

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Speaker 1: What's that worth to you?

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Speaker 2: Oh? A lot? But but most of all, it's.

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Speaker 1: Like hundreds of the money, hundreds of thousands or teens

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Speaker 1: of thousands.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, it's not the it's not the money, it's

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Speaker 2: the fact that he no, but he may lose faith

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Speaker 2: in me. So so I need to Yeah, so that

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Speaker 2: that's more important.

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Speaker 1: And he hasn't even he hasn't even spoken to you

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Speaker 1: directly yet.

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Speaker 2: No, no, he hasn't yet. So yeah, no, I I've

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Speaker 2: been on I've been on the phone since four o'clock

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Speaker 2: this morning, so I even a chance to talk to me,

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Speaker 2: And and Ethan just told me, so I need to

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Speaker 2: talk to him.

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Speaker 1: So, Ray, can you just tell me in your own words?

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Speaker 1: You wrap for a walk and they but tells you

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Speaker 1: a story. What's the story they tell you?

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Speaker 2: It told me a story about about oh, his son

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Speaker 2: was down at the pub, went down to the pub

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Speaker 2: as they saw young young kids, and and these two

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Speaker 2: women came up to them, and and one of them

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Speaker 2: grabbed grabbing one's a bum and said, you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: propossessioned him, and and so then you know, one thing

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Speaker 2: led to another, and he went through what happened and so, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so told me about Then I was quite you know,

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Speaker 2: well I don't know what I thought, whether flebbergasted or

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Speaker 2: as sounded or something, and so so I didn't know

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Speaker 2: what to actually do with this information because so.

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Speaker 1: This is what So did they use the words tempestuous

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Speaker 1: sex or is that? Was that your words?

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Speaker 2: I think they used that those words. I didn't I

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Speaker 2: didn't have anything, you know, I didn't add anything. So

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Speaker 2: I just took down. I just noted what they actually.

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Speaker 1: Right, So the neighbors said pendulous soft breasts as well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, okay, or the information what happened was

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Speaker 2: it gave me the end. He told me about it.

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Speaker 2: Then I came back and I thought, well what do

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Speaker 2: I do with that? I was walking with someone else

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Speaker 2: than we're walking dogs, and so you know, we both

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Speaker 2: listened to this, and so I thought, well, what do

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Speaker 2: I do with this?

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Speaker 1: And what do you mean? What you do we do

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Speaker 1: with it? You me all this information, well you might

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Speaker 1: have a chuckle, do you email your colleagues?

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Speaker 2: Well, I didn't know what I found was. This is

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Speaker 2: six weeks into council six weeks and being there, and

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Speaker 2: the council operates very, very differently to any organization. So

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Speaker 2: I wanted some advice from someone. Tod been there a

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Speaker 2: bit longer, and so do it. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: you know, it is you know, an issue, and it's

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Speaker 2: it affects the reputation of the city. So you know

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Speaker 2: how many people actually know about this? What what should

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Speaker 2: actually happen?

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Speaker 1: So is that what you asked? You asked in the email,

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Speaker 1: you said, I want some advice on what I should

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Speaker 1: do with this.

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Speaker 2: No, I told them, no, you didn't remember that.

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Speaker 1: You didn't. You just told them a dirty story you

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Speaker 1: heard from a man in the street, like it was

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Speaker 1: a bit of a laugh.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, well, it wasn't a man in

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Speaker 2: the street. It was someone who were benigned for many

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Speaker 2: a long time.

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Speaker 1: And so so you believe this is true. You believe

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Speaker 1: she had a drug fueled orgy.

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Speaker 2: I don't see why he should actually tell me these

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Speaker 2: things without being some substance behind it, because he wasn't

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Speaker 2: to know that I was actually going to walk past

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Speaker 2: this house, and so it wasn't as like he'd prepared

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Speaker 2: a story I know.

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Speaker 1: But he also wasn't their ray he was. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: at the orgy either, you know, so it's third hand

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Speaker 1: orgy information at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so yes.

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Speaker 1: So do you think it was smart to put it

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Speaker 1: in the email?

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Speaker 2: Well, I wanted to ask I just I didn't want

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Speaker 2: to add anything to it, so I just put in

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Speaker 2: what he actually told me. And so that's what I

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Speaker 2: wanted to ask him. And I think that it was

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Speaker 2: a private email that I sent her three of my

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Speaker 2: colleagues who I've known for a lot longer than being

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Speaker 2: in council too, you know, and get their opinion.

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Speaker 1: On it, and to who's that was it their counsel

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Speaker 1: email or personal email? Personal email, personal emails? How do

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Speaker 1: you think Torri Farno got her hands on it, because

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Speaker 1: that's how it's wound up in the media today, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: One one of them, one of those three gave it

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Speaker 2: to her.

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Speaker 1: Which one.

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Speaker 2: I don't know for sure, but you know, I can guess.

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Speaker 1: What's your guess?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't want to I don't want to say

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Speaker 2: that if I'm just guessing because I don't have I

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Speaker 2: don't have any.

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Speaker 1: Well that's sort but can you see that's sort of

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Speaker 1: what you did with Tori?

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Speaker 2: Hm, what you mean in the email.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't know, but you guessed.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess, and that's why I passed it on

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Speaker 2: to them to see what they thought. I don't think

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Speaker 2: any of us actually new Torri because you know, we

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Speaker 2: were all new to her, and so I think that

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Speaker 2: it was very difficult for us to even have any opinion.

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Speaker 2: And so right, yeah, so.

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Speaker 1: You ever had any drugs or done on the orgy's

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Speaker 1: Ray never said would you would you like to have?

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Speaker 2: Well, the opportunity has never been there, so I've I've

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Speaker 2: never been interested in taking drugs, so obviously haven't taken

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Speaker 2: hear of those.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Ray, Well, good luck with your campaign.

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Speaker 2: Yep, thank you.

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