Speaker 1: Hilda. I'm Chelsea Daniels and from the team behind the
Speaker 1: front Page the New Zealand Herald's daily news podcast. This
Speaker 1: is a bonus episode of Accused. The Polkinghorn Trial. It
Speaker 1: was a murder trial that gripped New Zealand and the world.
Speaker 1: Pauline Hannah was found dead in a Remuererra home she
Speaker 1: shared with her husband, Philip Polkinghorn, on April fifth, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one. What followed was a month's long investigation, Polkinghorn
Speaker 1: charged with murder, a mammoth trial, and eventually an acquittal.
Speaker 1: A jury came back with the not guilty verdict in September,
Speaker 1: a moment that would not mark the end of this saga.
Speaker 1: That's because on day one of the trial, the former
Speaker 1: Auckland ice surgeon, Philip Polkinghorn, pleaded guilty to meth charges.
Speaker 1: Today he was sentenced to one hundred and fifty hours
Speaker 1: community service for possession of meth and a meth pipe.
Speaker 1: Polkinghorn arrived at the High Court at Auckland flanked by
Speaker 1: some of the characters we grew to know during the
Speaker 1: nine week trial. Ron Mansfield kc Is Junior, Harrison Smith
Speaker 1: and also Polkinghorn's sister Ruth Hughes and his son Tane.
Speaker 1: During the trial. Mansfield said the reason Polkinghorn had a
Speaker 1: large quantity of meth dotted around the house was because
Speaker 1: he bought it in bulk to avoid multiple risky transactions.
Speaker 1: The amount did not reflect high or constant usage. Mansfield argued.
Speaker 1: Polkinghorn's sentencing began at nine am and was over in
Speaker 1: twenty minutes. First off, the court registrar fired off the chargers.
Speaker 1: The former is surgeon pleaded guilty too.
Speaker 2: John fulking Pump.
Speaker 3: You pleaded guilty to one charge of position.
Speaker 4: Of metamthatamine and one charge of position of a faith.
Speaker 3: Have you anything to say to white? Accentence of this
Speaker 3: court should not be passed upon you according to law no.
Speaker 1: Crown Solicitor Elisia McClintock began by saying, the evidence seen
Speaker 1: during the trial paints a very different picture of Polkinghorn's
Speaker 1: math use than what he now claims.
Speaker 2: So the amount is obviously a high amount for charge
Speaker 2: of this type. Three hundred and seventy individual doses or
Speaker 2: uses and over thirteen thousand dollars worth in various places
Speaker 2: with his DNA and only his DNA found on a
Speaker 2: multitude of the containers.
Speaker 1: McClintock queried whether a fine from the court would deter
Speaker 1: Polkinghorn from reoffending.
Speaker 2: On the one hand, he sees as the financial means
Speaker 2: that's why he had thirteen thousand dollars worth in his possession, okay.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, he says a fine of some
Speaker 2: in the order of six hundred and two one thousand
Speaker 2: dollars is sufficient to deter him. And my submission, those
Speaker 2: two things don't fit to ether.
Speaker 1: Ron Mansfield told the court polking Horn isn't being sentenced
Speaker 1: in regard to his use of math and the evidence
Speaker 1: of use is irrelevant. He said his client hasn't used
Speaker 1: the drug since his wife's death and had provided the
Speaker 1: court with documentation showing negative test results. He then went
Speaker 1: on to describe Pulkinghorn.
Speaker 4: He's seventy one years of age, so he's got no
Speaker 4: previous convictions. He was an optimologist for thirty four years.
Speaker 4: He retired following his wife's death. He's worked in both
Speaker 4: the private and public sector. He has a national and
Speaker 4: international profile for being one of the very top optomologists
Speaker 4: in his area of specialty, and as a result of
Speaker 4: the allegation he found and needed to defend for just
Speaker 4: over two months. He has been a very public and
Speaker 4: significant fall from grace. As far as his public profile
Speaker 4: is concerned, he's now, unfortunately for him, a household name,
Speaker 4: not reflective of his work within the community where he
Speaker 4: has saved the site of many within our community. But
Speaker 4: for his own personal lifestyle and.
Speaker 1: Affairs, he's intelligent, engaging, witty and overall a kind man.
Speaker 1: Mansfield said he.
Speaker 4: Won't come before the court again. He was using methamphetamin
Speaker 4: at the time, having been introduced to the drug by another,
Speaker 4: but accept responsibility for his decision to use it and
Speaker 4: on more than one occasion. But what he's very clear
Speaker 4: about Sarah is that he never used methamphetamine when at
Speaker 4: work or leading up to a.
Speaker 1: Period of work now. On a side note, at sentencings,
Speaker 1: the Crown and defense usually come to court with exact
Speaker 1: examples of sentences past. They refer to cases that have
Speaker 1: some similarities to the one they're in court for to
Speaker 1: try and determine and fight it out as to what
Speaker 1: kind of sentence would be appropriate. Mansfield brought up one
Speaker 1: such example, one that Justice Graham Lang himself ruled on
Speaker 1: involving a sentence to a similar quantity of cocaine. A
Speaker 1: professional in the community who hadn't been brought before the
Speaker 1: court before he got a fine. There are always some
Speaker 1: differences between these kinds of examples. After McClintock and Mansfield
Speaker 1: made their submissions, it was Justice Lang's turn to make
Speaker 1: his remarks. He began with the chargers and the maximum
Speaker 1: penalties for each of them. Possession of meth is six
Speaker 1: months imprisonment and or a thousand dollar fine, and possession
Speaker 1: of a utensil in this case a pipe is twelve
Speaker 1: months in prison and or a fine of up to
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars. These are the maximum sentences on offer
Speaker 1: for the judge the ceiling if you like, to what
Speaker 1: he can legally hand down. Judges then take into account
Speaker 1: all of the documents they're given ahead of a sentencing.
Speaker 1: Justice Lang went through what exactly was found in the
Speaker 1: Remuerra home in April twenty twenty one and where they
Speaker 1: were stashed.
Speaker 5: A plastic container that contained eighteen grams of methamphetamine. This
Speaker 5: was found in a drawer in the bathroom adjacent to
Speaker 5: the main bedroom of the address. In the same drawer
Speaker 5: were toilets, toilet trees and medication that have been prescribed
Speaker 5: for you. A plastic container that contained two point nine
Speaker 5: grams of methamphetamine. This was found in a desk drawer
Speaker 5: in the office area of the residence. A small plastic
Speaker 5: specimen jar containing sixteen point eight grams of methamphetamine. This
Speaker 5: was found in a bedside drawer in the master bedroom.
Speaker 5: Plastic point bag containing traces of methamphetamine. This was found
Speaker 5: in the bathroom adjacent to the master bedroom after the
Speaker 5: police had permitted you to use the shower in that
Speaker 5: bathroom on five April twenty twenty one. A buttane lighter
Speaker 5: and methem fetamin pipe that was found in a box
Speaker 5: under the bed in the master bedroom. You told the
Speaker 5: police you had slept in that bed on the night
Speaker 5: of four to five April to twenty twenty one. The
Speaker 5: methamphetamin was subsequently tested and found to have a purity
Speaker 5: of seventy nine to eighty percent.
Speaker 1: All of this adds up to thirty seven point seven
Speaker 1: grams in total, or about three hundred and seventy doses
Speaker 1: of the drug, and it had a street value of
Speaker 1: thirteen thousand dollars. Mansfield submitted that this reflex that Polkinghorn
Speaker 1: had the financial means to purchase the drug in bulk
Speaker 1: and thereby at a cheaper price.
Speaker 5: The precent report records that you told the writer of
Speaker 5: a report that you were a recreational user of methamphetamin
Speaker 5: and that your wife had acquired the methamphetamin found at
Speaker 5: your address. I do not accept that at the latter assertion.
Speaker 5: There was no evidence at trial to suggest your wife
Speaker 5: ever used methamphetamin or that she had any detailed knowledge
Speaker 5: of it.
Speaker 1: Justice Lang referenced what we heard in the trial about
Speaker 1: Hannah's Internet searches, what does a pea pipe look like?
Speaker 1: Was one of them, you'll remember, and others about how
Speaker 1: meth affects you. Given there was more than five grams
Speaker 1: of meth found at the home, police could have charged
Speaker 1: Pulkinghorn with possession with the purpose of supply, but they
Speaker 1: accepted that he had it all there for his own use.
Speaker 5: Are you? However, The amount that you acquired give some
Speaker 5: indication that you must have been using on a reasonably
Speaker 5: regular basis. I consider it unlikely that, as you told
Speaker 5: the writer of the pre sentence report, you'd only use
Speaker 5: the drug between five and ten times in your life.
Speaker 1: Justice Lang mentioned the evidence given a trial about Polkinghorn's
Speaker 1: colleague inviting him over for lunch. He'd asked her and
Speaker 1: her husband whether they used math. When they said they hadn't,
Speaker 1: he apparently told them that they should.
Speaker 5: This goes a considerable way towards explaining your attitude towards
Speaker 5: methemphetamin at this time. I note also that you told
Speaker 5: the writer of the pre sentence report that you did
Speaker 5: not consider your use of the drug to be problematic.
Speaker 1: He goes on to evidence given a trial by Polkinghorn's colleagues,
Speaker 1: all of whom spoke highly of his professional abilities. Polkinghorn's
Speaker 1: defense lawyer Mansfield suggested a fine in the region of
Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 5: However, I'm satisfied that, giving your healthy financial situation, a
Speaker 5: fine would have no deterrent effect at all and would
Speaker 5: not be sufficient to hold you properly accounted for your offending.
Speaker 1: Justice Lang pointed out the example we spoke about earlier,
Speaker 1: one that Lang himself handed down. In that case, the
Speaker 1: offender pleaded guilty to possessing forty five grams of cocaine,
Speaker 1: and he was fined one thousand dollars.
Speaker 5: I do not consider that to be an appropriate outcome
Speaker 5: in your case. First, you did not enter your pleas
Speaker 5: until the commencement of the trial. As Secondly, I consider
Speaker 5: you have endeavored to minimize your involvement in the possession
Speaker 5: of methem fetter mean by bringing your wife into the equation.
Speaker 1: Lang did note Polkinghorn's negative drug tests, which has been
Speaker 1: taking since twenty twenty one, and his intention of not
Speaker 1: ever using meth again. Given the amount of the drug
Speaker 1: found at the home, Justice Lang said a sentence of
Speaker 1: community work is appropriate.
Speaker 5: So if you had to stand Dr Poultenhom on the
Speaker 5: charge of being in possession of methem fetterman, you're sentenced
Speaker 5: to one hundred and fifty hours community to work. On
Speaker 5: the charge of being in possession of utensils. You were
Speaker 5: convicted and discharged.
Speaker 1: Thank you. After adjourning, Justice Lang returned to the court
Speaker 1: saying he overlooked the matter of entering convictions. He then
Speaker 1: entered them and then adjourned outside court. Alicia McClintock said
Speaker 1: the sentence is on the higher end of what would
Speaker 1: have been possible.
Speaker 2: Well, as I say, I mean the Crown submitted community
Speaker 2: was an appropriate sentence.
Speaker 6: For the offending.
Speaker 2: Look it is at the upper end of the amount
Speaker 2: for a position charge.
Speaker 1: McClintock said, it's been one of the longest prosecutions in
Speaker 1: some time and they're always hard on everybody.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It was a tireless police investigation and a long and
Speaker 2: complex and difficult prosecution and everyone did their absolute best
Speaker 2: and I'm very proud of the case that was presented.
Speaker 1: Detective Senior Sergeant Chris Allen said they've been in touch
Speaker 1: with Pauline Hannah's family.
Speaker 6: Rust all obviously disappointed with the with the outcome, and
Speaker 6: you know that's probably a metaphor for them to talk
Speaker 6: to if they want to. They just want to sort of,
Speaker 6: you know, move on with your life, I think, and
Speaker 6: and sort of get on all things. That's the type
Speaker 6: of you know, down to earth sort of you know.
Speaker 5: People that they are.
Speaker 1: Then Philip Polkinghorn left court, flanked by Ron Mansfield, his
Speaker 1: sister Ruth Son Taine, as well as lawyers Harrison Smith
Speaker 1: and Hannah Stewart. Our colleague Michael Morra was.
Speaker 6: There, Philip, your thoughts on sentencing today? Did you feel
Speaker 6: that was a fierce sentence? One hundred and fifty hours
Speaker 6: community work.
Speaker 3: We're happy with it.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, what what do you so.
Speaker 4: In the lifetime of community work by this man? So
Speaker 4: another one hundred and fifty hours won't do any harm?
Speaker 6: What will be what will be done for the one
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty hours? What sort of work? We'll wait
Speaker 6: and see any satisfied ron in a long trial that
Speaker 6: this is all done and dusted now, Thanks guys, Thank.
Speaker 1: You and zad Harold. Investigative reporter Carolyn mcgnee has covered
Speaker 1: this story since twenty twenty one. She joins US Now
Speaker 1: to discuss the revelations made after the trial, the women,
Speaker 1: the will, the math, and an exclusive club. Caro, since
Speaker 1: the trial, you've been in contact with a certain woman
Speaker 1: who didn't appear at the trial but certainly made an impact.
Speaker 1: That's Sydney sex worker Madison Ashton. First off, what's she
Speaker 1: said about the not guilty verdict?
Speaker 3: Madison Ashton, who was Philip Polkinhorn's former mistress, was absolutely
Speaker 3: shaken by the verdict because I rang her immediately after
Speaker 3: the jury had made their decision and she said, I'm
Speaker 3: so shocked, I'm shaking. My whole body is shaking. And
Speaker 3: then I later asked her if you actually gave evidence
Speaker 3: at the trial, would it have made a difference? And
Speaker 3: she said probably not. During the trial, Medicine and I
Speaker 3: were in contact while she was traveling overseas to Lisbon, Sicily,
Speaker 3: London and Croatia. So when I asked her that question
Speaker 3: about whether she thinks she could have made a difference,
Speaker 3: she said no, probably not, because her anger was not
Speaker 3: directed at anyone else but the police. She believed that
Speaker 3: they watched the entire investigation and she felt that if
Speaker 3: she was to go on the stand, it would have
Speaker 3: made no difference at all and she would have been
Speaker 3: probably decimated by the defense council.
Speaker 1: So you mentioned she actually fled to Europe during the
Speaker 1: trial and she was of course meant to take the
Speaker 1: stand for the crown, And you mentioned that she didn't
Speaker 1: really have any regrets about it. Was she keeping in
Speaker 1: contact with the trial while she was overseas or just
Speaker 1: really enjoying herself.
Speaker 3: Well, Madison Ashton had went overseas partially because she was
Speaker 3: very concerned about the direction of how the trial was going,
Speaker 3: and so she was turning fifty, so she decided to
Speaker 3: shelter solf a trip to Europe. But she did tell
Speaker 3: me she was mainlining on the trial. She could not
Speaker 3: get enough to the point where she stayed up all
Speaker 3: night because of our time difference, purely because she wanted
Speaker 3: to find out what was happening.
Speaker 1: We learned a lot about Ashton and Polkinghorn's relationship during
Speaker 1: the trial, but what more of you learned from the
Speaker 1: woman herself about their relationship.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing is through this whole investigation, and it
Speaker 3: really has been, Chelsea, because I've lived and breathed this
Speaker 3: since twenty twenty one, and so gradually, as you talk
Speaker 3: to people into friends of Pauline Hannah's family members, other
Speaker 3: sex workers, Polkinghorn himself, you paint a picture of all
Speaker 3: the sort of elements and how they all connect to
Speaker 3: the digsal puzzle that isn't Ashton was initially very hostile
Speaker 3: towards me at that point. She claims she believed in
Speaker 3: Polkinghorn's innocence. She had no idea that he was actually
Speaker 3: still married to Pauline Hannah till the sex trist she
Speaker 3: had with Philip Pokinghorn at Mount Cook about six weeks
Speaker 3: after Pauline Hannah's death. And I guess with Madison Ashton,
Speaker 3: I didn't know just the level or their status of
Speaker 3: their relationship. So from what I understand was from twenty
Speaker 3: eleven Pauline Hannah and Philip Pokinghorn they engaged in a
Speaker 3: booking with Madison Ashton and three other sex workers. So
Speaker 3: it was purely, as Ashton tells me, from twenty eleven
Speaker 3: to probably twenty seventeen, it was purely transactional between her
Speaker 3: and Polkinghorn. Then from a bart twenty seventeen to a
Speaker 3: Bart twenty twenty one up to the present day. It's
Speaker 3: my understanding that and also Ashton's, that Pockinghorn was actually
Speaker 3: beginning to fall in love with her. It was becoming
Speaker 3: really obsessed, and he would make trips to Sydney. He
Speaker 3: bought a lease for an apartment for her to live
Speaker 3: in for two years, so they were building a relationship together.
Speaker 3: Around about twenty nineteen, as we'd heard in the trial,
Speaker 3: Pockinghorn was acting quite erratically at work. Also, the relationship
Speaker 3: with Pauline was clearly at a turning point. He went
Speaker 3: to Sydney that year and spent it with Ashton in
Speaker 3: her apartment. Pauline and the rest of the family were
Speaker 3: at rings speech and Pokinghorn told Pauline that he was
Speaker 3: going away on a men's treat Well, clearly that wasn't
Speaker 3: the case. What Ashton told me in twenty nineteen was
Speaker 3: Polkinghorn had told her that he was about to divorce Pauline,
Speaker 3: but that never eventuated.
Speaker 1: And it's not only Madison Ashton who you've spoken to, hey,
Speaker 1: when it comes to sex workers.
Speaker 3: I managed to find one woman, Aubrey Black, that's her
Speaker 3: working name, and only wants to be known as Aubrey Black.
Speaker 3: And she was interestingly a New Zealander born in New
Speaker 3: Zealand and Gisbon of all places, to a family of Mormons,
Speaker 3: so obviously very religious. Aubrey then got into sex work
Speaker 3: in Australia and is an international porn star. Polkinghorn contacted
Speaker 3: Aubrey a couple of months after Pauline's death. I think
Speaker 3: he went through the Scarlet Blue agency where she works
Speaker 3: and made a booking with her. So she came up
Speaker 3: to New Zealand. They met at the Sky City and
Speaker 3: Black says they never had sex that night, but Pokinghorn
Speaker 3: had told her that Pauline Hannah had killed herself. So
Speaker 3: they talked and he sobbed and he said that you know,
Speaker 3: she was very stressed and depressed and relied on a
Speaker 3: lot of medications and was unraveling basically before her death.
Speaker 3: Also that her mother had previously died. When he arrived,
Speaker 3: he brought a green handbag, one of Pauline Hannah's, filled
Speaker 3: with a bottle of prosecco and some fetter cheese, and
Speaker 3: Black said it was the most disgusting thing. They met
Speaker 3: a second time and they had sex, but it was
Speaker 3: interesting because Pokinghorn wanted to offer Black the use of
Speaker 3: Pauline Hannah's car and also her handbags and designer shoes,
Speaker 3: and also to fix her teeth. There was nothing wrong
Speaker 3: with her teeth, but he said that I'll repair for
Speaker 3: your teeth, and it was a very bizarre thing. So
Speaker 3: she thought that was quite dodgy. It wasn't until she
Speaker 3: went back to Australia she found out that he was
Speaker 3: later being investigated for the death of Pauline Hannah. The
Speaker 3: second sex worker that I spoke to that The Herald
Speaker 3: has chosen not to name, spent a lot of time
Speaker 3: with Philip Pokinghorn during the lockdown in twenty twenty. They
Speaker 3: had sex in Pokinghorn and Hannah's house the first time,
Speaker 3: and he basically would call her all the time. He
Speaker 3: became quite obsessive with her, and basically she was due
Speaker 3: to leave to go back to Australia, but of course
Speaker 3: lockdown happened, and then he said, well, look you can
Speaker 3: come and stay with me at my rings speech holiday
Speaker 3: hus So she did that. But during that time, the
Speaker 3: woman who we called Nicole said that she just felt
Speaker 3: like she described herself as the lockdown wife and basically
Speaker 3: the relationship, she claims was purely transactional. But Polkinghorn wanted
Speaker 3: sex regularly without having to pay her. He bought her
Speaker 3: a computer. He basically was fixated by her as well.
Speaker 3: And the funny thing about all of these sex workers,
Speaker 3: and you know the photographs that I've seen, is they
Speaker 3: a younger Well, in fact ure Black said, we're younger
Speaker 3: versions of Pauline Hannah. Philip Pokinghorn has a prototype. Madison
Speaker 3: Ashton says that she was Pauline Hannah two point zero.
Speaker 3: They all had big hair, brunette hair, petite, but with
Speaker 3: big breasts, so they all were similar versions of Pauline.
Speaker 1: I remember actually early on you spoke to Polkinghorn right
Speaker 1: after Pauline's death, but actually before he was charged. Right
Speaker 1: how bizarre was that conversation with him. It was over
Speaker 1: the phone, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: I was asked by one of the editors, actually Hamish Fletcher,
Speaker 3: to make a phone call or to do what we
Speaker 3: call a door knock that day, I remember it clearly.
Speaker 3: It was so I was just emailed a potential cell
Speaker 3: phone number for Philip Pokinghorn. But it was Friday morning
Speaker 3: and it was really raining, hard, horrible morning, and I thought, look,
Speaker 3: you know, the chances are I'm not quite sure what
Speaker 3: the situation is, but I'll just give it a shot.
Speaker 3: And so I rang him and it was the most
Speaker 3: bizarre conversation I've ever ever had. Firstly, it began, you know,
Speaker 3: obviously I introduced myself. Philip Pokinghorn told me that his
Speaker 3: lawyers had advised him not to speak to the media.
Speaker 3: But then he started talking about how much he missed
Speaker 3: her and that this whole thing was just horrible. Horrible,
Speaker 3: horrible were his words. It got even more bizarre because
Speaker 3: near the middle of the conversation I sort of said, so,
Speaker 3: you know, how would you describe relationship? Was it fine?
Speaker 3: And the most unusual words, which you know, was used
Speaker 3: as evidence in court, was like it wasn't fine. It
Speaker 3: wasn't fine at all. It was perfect or something along
Speaker 3: those words, which to me, no relationship is in my experience,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure in yours and everybody else we're all human, right,
Speaker 3: relationship is ever perfect. And of course the trial revealed
Speaker 3: there were so many flaws in Pauline Hannah and Philip
Speaker 3: Polkinghorn's relationship as there are in any relationship or marriage.
Speaker 1: And do we know anything about Polkinghorn's life after the trial,
Speaker 1: because we spent a lot of time talking about him
Speaker 1: and listening about the intricacies of his relationships and his
Speaker 1: life over a nine week period, and not so much afterwards.
Speaker 1: Do we know anything?
Speaker 3: I was very sort of determined to find out more, Chelsea,
Speaker 3: because you know, as I said earlier, it's been a
Speaker 3: case that's probably taken over my life for three years,
Speaker 3: and it's also been such a highly publicized, controversial criminal case,
Speaker 3: so it's had the whole nation obsessed by it. So
Speaker 3: I thought, well, there must be more. So one of
Speaker 3: our journalists, Steve Brounius, wrote on the day of the
Speaker 3: verdict that Polkinghorn and his sister Ruth went straight across
Speaker 3: the road to the Auckland Northern Club, which I thought
Speaker 3: was rather odd because given the high level of interest
Speaker 3: in this case, I found that interesting. So I decided
Speaker 3: to actually make some inquiries into the Northern Club because
Speaker 3: there is a rule in the Northern Club, rule forty three.
Speaker 3: They have a level of conduct that you have to
Speaker 3: adhere to. Polkinghorn had pleaded guilty to methamphetamine charges, so
Speaker 3: clearly that was a criminal act. But I thought, well
Speaker 3: is this right and how would the other members feel
Speaker 3: about that fact?
Speaker 1: It's quite an exclusive club as well?
Speaker 3: Well it is. It's they have over two thousand members.
Speaker 3: It's generally for professionals or business you know, work in
Speaker 3: the business community, and it's a networking thing and as
Speaker 3: you say exclusive, it's a building that's associated with a
Speaker 3: lot of rich history. I was very lucky in one
Speaker 3: of the sources that I contacted who was very helpful
Speaker 3: and had given me some names of people or members
Speaker 3: that belonged to the club. And another Casey, who has
Speaker 3: been remarkable as well. She's been very very sort of
Speaker 3: utspoken about her anger that Polkinghorn has lowered the reputation
Speaker 3: of the club and that if he came in he
Speaker 3: would not be welcome, so little by little like it
Speaker 3: was gathering evidence and information. The general consensus is people
Speaker 3: some members wanted him out, So we just have to
Speaker 3: wait and see what happens with the Northern Club. The
Speaker 3: other thing that I have been focusing on was the
Speaker 3: Northern Club. And also I managed to find out how
Speaker 3: supplied Philip Polkinghorn with the fifty six grams of meth
Speaker 3: and fhetamine which Polkinghorn paid fourteen thousand dollars for. And
Speaker 3: that was quite enlightening.
Speaker 1: Because so did he have fifty six because there was
Speaker 1: thirty seven point seven grams found at his time.
Speaker 3: Now, but this meth and phetamine was purchased around March
Speaker 3: or April. So I'm not making any kind of connections here,
Speaker 3: but that is what the meth dealer told me. So
Speaker 3: that happened. And then the other thing is that it
Speaker 3: was slightly mentioned in court but not touched upon greatly
Speaker 3: except for the defense lawyer Ron Mansfield KC when he
Speaker 3: was interviewing Bruce Hannah, applying that Bruce Hannah was interested
Speaker 3: in Pauline Hannah's will. Well, that was not the case
Speaker 3: because I also wrote a story a few weeks ago
Speaker 3: that Pauline Hannah. They cannot find a will for Pauline Hannah.
Speaker 3: So she had set up trusts and stuff with Philip Polkinghorn,
Speaker 3: but there was still no evidence of a will. Which
Speaker 3: the weird thing is is that Philip Polkinghorn Bruce Hannah
Speaker 3: told me rang him the day out, straight after the
Speaker 3: day of puling Handa's death, have you got her will?
Speaker 3: Which he thought was outrageous because he said, well, why
Speaker 3: would I have the will? How would I have her will?
Speaker 3: So Bruce Hannah approached me to write a story about
Speaker 3: somewhere in Auckland, in some law firm, Pauline Hannah's will
Speaker 3: must be here somewhere. Thanks for joining us, Caro.
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