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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at b.

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Speaker 2: This is Zumi Zoomer. That song is called Cross My

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Speaker 2: Heart and Hope to Die. The new album is No

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Speaker 2: Love Lost to Kindness. Chris Schultz has been listening and

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Speaker 2: is with us now. Good morning Chris, Good morning Jack.

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Speaker 2: It's catchy, Yeah, it is, it is. I mean it

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Speaker 2: is catchy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's always been a little mallow mellow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, called a dream pop, you know that that kind

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Speaker 3: of like missed the call whimsical some aster known with

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Speaker 3: a picnic at the beach sort of music. They've gone

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Speaker 3: a little louder this time, as that song kind of

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Speaker 3: proves they've got risks. And this often happens, I think

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Speaker 3: when bands have been touring a lot and they've been

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Speaker 3: playing to sort of like bigger crowds. Umi Zoomer at

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Speaker 3: one of those classic New Zealand acts that they kind

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Speaker 3: of feel like they're bigger overseas. They're about to go

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Speaker 3: on a three month tour through Europe and then America,

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Speaker 3: and you know this dates back all the way back

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Speaker 3: to like the Flight of the Concord days, right where

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Speaker 3: they had to go out of seas and sort of

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Speaker 3: prove themselves before we accepted them back home. But this

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Speaker 3: is this is louder, This is good. This is an

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Speaker 3: album that has been born out of like the frustrations

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Speaker 3: of touring the toll. It takes on your mental health

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Speaker 3: of missing family and friends back home. A lot of

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Speaker 3: the lyrics are about homesickness. Ironically, it's also an album

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Speaker 3: that's very, very good and could see them having to

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Speaker 3: tour a lot more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, funny that, I mean, it's it came about in

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Speaker 2: a kind of unusual way as well. I think they

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Speaker 2: were in Mexico City when they recorded this.

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Speaker 3: They've always yeah, so they actually started out of the

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Speaker 3: crist at Us quake. They got introduced by friends and

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Speaker 3: they made their music. Because they're all based in all

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Speaker 3: different parts of the world, they actually make their music

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Speaker 3: I understand through like email and zone calls, and they're

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Speaker 3: not always in the studio together. Yeah, but it sounds

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, this is their best album. I reckon.

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Speaker 3: I fell asleep last night. I add one of these

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Speaker 3: rests stuck in my head. In the morning, I woke

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Speaker 3: up and I had a completely different one. It's very sticky.

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Speaker 3: It almost reminds me a little bit of like the Best.

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Speaker 3: If you're a Best fan, you'll definitely do this. And

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Speaker 3: even like the do you remember the Naked and Famous

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Speaker 3: at great like mid twenty tend Yeah, bring back the

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Speaker 3: Naked and Famous if you like them, I reckon. That's

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Speaker 3: where this album is kind of hitting. It's got this crunch,

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Speaker 3: it's got this like darkness to it. Some of the lyrics,

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Speaker 3: you know, they're diving into some deeper sort of emotional

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Speaker 3: issues and and that's where this kind of sits.

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Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, nice. Okay, So so it's quite a shift.

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Speaker 2: If you're used to the dream pop of you Musumer's

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Speaker 2: albums in the past, you reckon, this is quite a shift.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to be honest that their earlier stuff

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Speaker 3: didn't quite connect with me. I like a little bit

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Speaker 3: of guitar crunch, and I think that's why this album

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Speaker 3: has really connected. I could see this at a like

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Speaker 3: almost like a you know, Lamewave's next week. I could

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Speaker 3: see them playing Lame Way in the afternoons and this

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Speaker 3: really connecting. It's it's it's just got that I don't know,

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Speaker 3: it's familiar, but it's kind of new. It's they don't

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Speaker 3: overuse these risks. They kind of float in and out

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Speaker 3: of song, so you never bombarded with them. They're kind

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Speaker 3: of just sitting there in the background. There's still those wafty,

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Speaker 3: dreamy elements to it, but it just it just adds

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Speaker 3: as crunch this this like this real kick to them.

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Speaker 3: It connects better.

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Speaker 2: I reckon, Yeah, cool, Okay, very good. I'm looking forward

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Speaker 2: to having more of a listen to it. How you

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Speaker 2: went too a ge pop?

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Speaker 3: I'd so did. Jack. I went to a keep off

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Speaker 3: on Thursday night. Every single wrinkle of his seventy eight

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Speaker 3: year old body was on display. He ripped off his

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Speaker 3: jackets the moment he walked on stage. He was shirtless

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Speaker 3: and he just did not care. And you know, like

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Speaker 3: there were a lot of questions leading up to it,

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Speaker 3: and a seventy eight year old still rock out. He

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Speaker 3: totally can. It almost felt like a like an oa

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Speaker 3: to just like forgetting your age and stage and just

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Speaker 3: giving it what you've got. He was actually like he

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Speaker 3: was like more energetic at the end of the show

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Speaker 3: than at the start of it. It sort of de

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Speaker 3: aged him over the course of this nineteen minute set.

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Speaker 2: It was remarkable, amazing. Oh that's good. So he's playing

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Speaker 2: in Wonnaca tonight, I think his second show and then

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Speaker 2: heitting back off our shows again. So if youre heading

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Speaker 2: along to the Walaca show and I have a great time.

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Speaker 2: So Chris, we're going to get a rating for Umi

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Speaker 2: Zoomer's No Love Loss to Kindness? Why'd you give it?

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Speaker 3: Wow? The Guardian gave it three stars. They criticized them

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Speaker 3: for not going like harder and cruncher enough. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to give it four. I think they've They've handled this

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Speaker 3: evolution perfectly, and I think this is this is a

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Speaker 3: really good album. I think it's going to do big.

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Speaker 2: Things, so fantastic. I'm really looking forward to having a

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Speaker 2: bit more of a listen. So we're going to play

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Speaker 2: another track in a couple of minutes. You have yourself

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Speaker 2: a great week, and we will catch again very soon.

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Speaker 2: That is Chris Shultz. You can hear more from Chris

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Speaker 2: on his substack. Of course. The substack is called boiler Room.

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Speaker 2: And like I say, we'll play another good little number

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Speaker 2: from Umi zoom Is No Love Lost to Kindness in

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Speaker 2: a few minutes.

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