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Speaker 1: Sports talk hosters with me.

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Speaker 2: Hello Darce, Hello Heather. I miss you already. I'm sitting

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Speaker 2: in your chair. The dog's on the couch.

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Speaker 1: I did you know what? Okay, so I'm I'm obviously

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Speaker 1: And did you know that I was in Wellington?

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Speaker 2: Darcy, Well, you're not here. I was presuming there's a

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Speaker 2: budget coming up, so I suppose you'd migrate down to

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Speaker 2: the Halls of Powder to talk about.

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Speaker 1: It makes sense you were already here to just keep

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Speaker 1: in our place for budget tomorrow. But I did say

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Speaker 1: to everybody, don't let Darcy touch any of the buttons

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Speaker 1: in that studio because I'm connected remotely, so don't touch

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Speaker 1: hands off.

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Speaker 2: Please to turn my mic on on Heather.

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Speaker 1: Apart from that, Dares, I cannot believe that the Super

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Speaker 1: Rugby officials have admitted that they got it wrong on

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Speaker 1: the field with that blinking try in the Muana pacifica game.

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Speaker 2: It's a brave new world, isn't it. This is got

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Speaker 2: to these guys for doing this, what doing what well

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Speaker 2: for saying that we made a mess and we've been

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Speaker 2: a look at this because it was a mess. It

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Speaker 2: slowed the whole game down. It took nearly a couple

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Speaker 2: of minutes. Look, Hardie Save, I thought he knew it

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Speaker 2: was going on. The referee and the touch judges, they

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Speaker 2: thought they knew it was going on. The third official,

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Speaker 2: fourth official, what if you call them up on the box,

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Speaker 2: he thought he knew what was going on. None of

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Speaker 2: them knew what was going on. So the mistake was made.

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Speaker 2: And what it says about the new lords, because they've

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Speaker 2: changed a bit since the World Cup final back in

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Speaker 2: the day, is that if I talked Elliott Smith about that,

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Speaker 2: the commentator at the time he didn't know what was

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Speaker 2: going on either. So if you've got a captain of

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Speaker 2: a team, a brilliant All Black, a referee who hasn't

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Speaker 2: got international experience, a two touch judges, a TMO and

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Speaker 2: a commentator who don't know what's going on, there is

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Speaker 2: a problem with your law. So sort it out. So

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Speaker 2: they put their hand up and they're going to go

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Speaker 2: to World Rugby or maybe just do it themselves.

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Speaker 1: But it does. Let's get to the nitty gritty here.

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Speaker 1: So what happened was actually that so that try was

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Speaker 1: disallowed in the fifty fifth minute because old mate who's

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Speaker 1: running up the wing you had put his foot into

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Speaker 1: the on the line right, correct.

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Speaker 2: I know that got miss actually.

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Speaker 1: Started, but which means and they counted that as part

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Speaker 1: of the attacking phase. But what they failed to take

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Speaker 1: into account was between that foot on the line and

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Speaker 1: the try fifty two seconds later, there was actually a

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Speaker 1: brief turnover of possession where the Blues took hold of

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Speaker 1: the ball, in which case the attacking phase starts after that,

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Speaker 1: which means that that foot on the line should never

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Speaker 1: have disqualified the try. It was not part of the

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Speaker 1: attacking phase.

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Speaker 2: And is talking about this question to you?

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Speaker 1: This is my question to you. If old mate sitting

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Speaker 1: in the box upstairs, the TMO is going to go

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Speaker 1: back through every single bit of that phase and got

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Speaker 1: all the way back to fifty two seconds and see

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Speaker 1: the truck, why did he not see the change in possession?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the problem is with this law is

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Speaker 2: it's in two parts. It's around when the transgression took place,

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Speaker 2: at what stage in the build up, and how it's applied.

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Speaker 1: Either he either doesn't know the rules, Darcy, or he

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Speaker 1: didn't see the change in possession.

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Speaker 2: No, he would have seen that. I believe from talking

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Speaker 2: to other people around it that the rules are a

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Speaker 2: bit convoluted when it comes to the stoppage and when

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Speaker 2: the infringement occurred, and what an infringement it actually was,

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Speaker 2: So there was nothing really definitive. It was an odd situation,

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Speaker 2: but they didn't know, they couldn't handle it. And all

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Speaker 2: I can say is thank goodness I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Count down to see I opened the show with this

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Speaker 1: on Monday because it frustrated me so much. I got

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Speaker 1: a lot of texts saying, shut up, you don't know

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Speaker 1: anything about rugby because you're a girl.

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Speaker 2: Can you bet me a time? I'm not a girl?

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Speaker 1: Okay, can you back me up on this?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 1: If the refs themselves cannot understand the rules, then how

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Speaker 1: the hell are we as fans supposed to understand the rules.

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Speaker 1: Therefore the rules are dumb and need to be whittled

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Speaker 1: right down.

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Speaker 2: If this has been the case right from the start,

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Speaker 2: MA till think about that. There's a rule in rugby.

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Speaker 2: I think it's low ten dot four slaves two and

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Speaker 2: you know what it says. The reef's decision is the

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Speaker 2: last word. That's it, And you want to go right

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Speaker 2: the way back that and go well, the referee actually

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Speaker 2: said that's the case, So we just got to run

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Speaker 2: with it. If you want to be really pedantic, he's

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Speaker 2: got the final say or she has got the final say.

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Speaker 2: You can argue all you want, but if you go

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Speaker 2: picked through the the minutiae of the law book, you'll

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Speaker 2: find that and go, oh, the riff can do it

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Speaker 2: they want. I mean, it's a street to argue that,

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Speaker 2: but it's in there.

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Speaker 1: At the moment.

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Speaker 2: I don't hate rugby. This season heathered at plus Yellen

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Speaker 2: has been astonishingly good.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't know us because I've had a guts full

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Speaker 1: and to give it a.

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Speaker 2: New start, I mean, come on, you've got to So

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Speaker 2: what happens when they get a new leader of a

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Speaker 2: political party. You got to had it with that political party,

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Speaker 2: or you give them a chance to maybe reshape, reform

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Speaker 2: and starts the hook.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, if you want a political analogy,

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Speaker 1: phone is off the hook right now with rugby because

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Speaker 1: rugby has got terrible rules, just like a party that's

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Speaker 1: got terrible policies changed.

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Speaker 2: Break down on the turnover, Amaze, the game is on

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Speaker 2: fire right now. Hither you are an army of one

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Speaker 2: right now?

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Speaker 1: Oh you are bollocks.

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Speaker 2: Watch the game and come back to me any game.

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Speaker 2: In fact, watch Ardie Savia in that game and tell

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Speaker 2: me this game is bollocking, because.

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Speaker 1: It is okay. Thanks d Thanks Darcy Watergrove Sportstal Coast,

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Speaker 1: seven o'clock tonight, bollocks. You nap off now, you nap off.

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