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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: duper c Ellen Drive with One New Zealand to coverage

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Speaker 1: like no one else news Doorg ZV.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon. Welcome to the show. Coming up today the Police

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Speaker 2: Minister Mark Mitchell on whether the police actually have got

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Speaker 2: an okay police culture. This is in the wake of

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Speaker 2: Gevin mcskimming. Turns out white bread isn't actually automatically bad

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Speaker 2: for you. Will speak to a nutritionist about that. Plus

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Speaker 2: also there's a guy visiting New Zealand who knows all

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Speaker 2: about Donald Trump and how to manage him in terms

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Speaker 2: of trade. He'll run us through his tips after six.

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Speaker 3: Heather duper c Ellen.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: So, the big health news today is that the WHO

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Speaker 2: is essentially calling for the funding of weight loss drugs

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Speaker 2: like Wagovian or zempic for people who would otherwise not

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Speaker 2: be able to afford it, so basically make it not

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Speaker 2: just for the rich but for the poor as well.

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Speaker 2: The WHO doesn't actually say governments should be the ones

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Speaker 2: funding the drugs. An alternative interpretation of what they've said

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Speaker 2: is that the people who make the drugs should drop

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Speaker 2: the price. To me the more affordable but that's obviously

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Speaker 2: not going to happen because profits, so you can probably

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Speaker 2: assume the bill lands with governments around the world. Now

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Speaker 2: that's a nice idea, and given how effective these drugs

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Speaker 2: are are in dropping weight off people, it would probably

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Speaker 2: make a massive difference to the obesity rates in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: But it is simply not affordable for New Zealand. We

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Speaker 2: have done the numbers before on the show. I'll run

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Speaker 2: you through them again. Okay, the drugs cost five hundred

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Speaker 2: dollars a month. There are one point five million dollars

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Speaker 2: million Kiwis who are considered obese. If we funded these

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Speaker 2: drugs for all the obese people in this country at

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Speaker 2: the moment, it would cost this country nine billion dollars

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Speaker 2: a year. Nine billion dollars is what we pay for

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Speaker 2: all of our jails and the staff who run them,

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Speaker 2: the Ministry of Justice, the whole court system, right customs,

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Speaker 2: and our police force and our entire defense force. That

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Speaker 2: is how much money nine billion dollars is. It is

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Speaker 2: not affordable for us. It's not a one off either.

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Speaker 2: You don't just pay for for a year and everybody's

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Speaker 2: fat problems are solved and on we go with life.

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Speaker 2: And everybody can eat what they want to. These drugs,

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Speaker 2: according to the who are meant for long term use.

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Speaker 2: So that's nine billion dollars every single year. And the

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Speaker 2: minute these people come off the drugs, they get fat again, right,

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Speaker 2: so you have to keep funding it. Not a chance.

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Speaker 2: Here's the happy news though these drugs come off. Peyton

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Speaker 2: will start coming off patent in about three months three

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Speaker 2: four months time, which means that in short order you

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Speaker 2: can expect to buy knockoffs for knockoff prices, which means

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Speaker 2: punters who want to lose weight should be able to

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Speaker 2: fund it themselves. And that is ultimately where the buck

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Speaker 2: should stop, isn't it, Heather do for Sea Allen?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: Nine two is the text number. Standard text fees apply

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Speaker 2: and we're going to speak to somebody, an endochronologist who

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Speaker 2: be funded. And after five now you will have caught

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Speaker 2: the news last night. Auckland Mayor Wayne Brown says that

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Speaker 2: if the Government puts in a rates cap, the City

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Speaker 2: Rail Link won't have any trains or drivers. He says,

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Speaker 2: the council has to pay for the cr well, and

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Speaker 2: that's why Auckland residential rates are going up by seven

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Speaker 2: point nine percent next year. However, some people are calling

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Speaker 2: bs on that number. Auckland rate Payers Alliance spokesperson Jordan

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Speaker 2: Williams is with us. Now, Hi, Jordan, get a header. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So he says, got to raise rates by this much

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Speaker 2: to pay for it. What do you say, Well, it's

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Speaker 6: He said that the cost of running it is a

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Speaker 6: and transport, it's nonsense on stilts. They work it out.

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Speaker 6: Once you factor in the projected income from the increased

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Speaker 6: patronage and fair revenue, it's fifty three million, half of

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Speaker 6: which is covered by NZTA. That leads a shortfall of

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Speaker 6: two hundred and sixty million annually. Certainly not anywhere near

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Speaker 6: what Wayne Brown is trying to use to justify a

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Speaker 6: Even that's that's even worse than anything Phil Golf or

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Speaker 6: Len Brown gave the super City. And he's saying there's

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Speaker 6: the alarm, are you?

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Speaker 2: Is that for real?

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Speaker 7: Rate.

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Speaker 2: Is he hiking rates by more than than his predecessors

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Speaker 6: It's unbelievable. Only a few months ago, Wayne Brown was

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Speaker 6: out there saying I'm not going to hike rates any

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Speaker 6: more than one and a half percent above inflation. So

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Speaker 6: that gets you pretty much bang on to where the

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Speaker 6: government said they're going to cap rates. And yet yesterday

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Speaker 6: he's out there timing his announcement to harpoon the government

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Speaker 6: seems to be back in the labor parties camp, or

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Speaker 6: at least with al jens ed to try to undermine

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Speaker 6: the government's good effort to cap rates. This was the

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Speaker 6: guy we elected to get council costs under control. Has

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Speaker 6: you know the costs under his stewardship have gone up

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Speaker 6: farther left twenty and a half percent versus seven percent

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Speaker 6: inflation cumulative since he was elected into office, And now

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Speaker 6: he's about to deliver a rates increase. Horror is proposing

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Speaker 6: higher than anything Wayne Lenen Brown or Phil Goff delivering

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Speaker 6: the most is extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: YouTube. Is this the old negotiating tactic, It's the opening

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Speaker 2: gambit and it comes back from there.

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Speaker 6: Well, maybe that's okay, but you know, you're entitled to

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Speaker 6: your own opinion or your or your political strategy, but

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Speaker 6: you're not entitled to your own facts. And the facts

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Speaker 6: are Auckland Transport have called this out as being absolute nonsense.

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Speaker 6: It is not a million dollars a day. It is

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Speaker 6: twenty six million across the whole year. It doesn't justify

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Speaker 6: a massive rates increase. What's really driving this is that

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Speaker 6: since Wayne Brown sacked Marris Williamson as the head of

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Speaker 6: his finance committee and put in Deasley Simpson, they haven't

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Speaker 6: found the savings that he promised, and what we are

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Speaker 6: now seeing is a catch up mode to aid Aucklanders

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Speaker 6: We're gonna call it out.

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Speaker 2: Good on you. Now, let me just get something straight.

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Speaker 2: So what he is so the cost of running the

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Speaker 2: CURL represents about a one percent rates increase.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well he's saying it. It's many times more than that.

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Speaker 3: But I'm going to.

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Speaker 2: Read to your your calculations are one.

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Speaker 6: Well, this is what this is literally on the public

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Speaker 6: cost are approx to me sixty three million. Then for

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Speaker 6: the additional operations, network access and maintenance. But when you

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Speaker 6: factor in the increased patronage and fear revenue, that takes

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Speaker 6: nz tha's share, so that leads just twenty six million

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Speaker 2: Jordan, thank you, appreciate you so mate. That's Jordan Williams,

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Speaker 2: Auckland Ratepayers Allow Alliance spokesperson. I'm starting to regret that

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Speaker 2: I did a piece. Yes, I made a comment last

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Speaker 2: week saying he's actually quite good at being a mayor

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Speaker 2: and if I had just kind of known what was

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Speaker 2: and they're not made that comment this week. Anyway, we

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Speaker 2: tried to get Wayne Brown on the show. He is

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Speaker 2: in council backed council meetings, back to back meetings all day.

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Speaker 2: Apparently there is a pattern that has emerged with Wayne Brown,

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Speaker 2: which is when something bad comes out, he is nowhere

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Speaker 2: to be found. And once again he is nowhere to

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Speaker 2: be found. But this is not an issue that will

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Speaker 2: go away, so he will have to front about this

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Speaker 2: at some stage. By the way, just on Andrew King,

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Speaker 2: Charles has stripped Andrew of two more of his titles.

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Speaker 2: He is no longer a Night Companion of the Order

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Speaker 2: of the Garter, and he is no longer a Night

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Speaker 2: Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order. Quarter past It's the.

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Speaker 2: I think Mayor Brown has defiance disorder. He just wants

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Speaker 2: to be disagreeable. Thank you, Carol. Seventeen past four.

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Speaker 1: Sport with tab Power plays better than lock bigger odds

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Speaker 1: or Ratie responsibly.

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Speaker 2: Darcy Watergrave sports talk host Darcy No, this is not

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Speaker 2: good the cricket No.

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Speaker 7: One hundred and thirteenth for the loss of four through

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Speaker 7: just on forty overs, young and on a bondyl in

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Speaker 7: on seven. She's been a bit of a massacre after

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Speaker 7: losing the toss and being sent into bat Conway has

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Speaker 7: waving at some ball outside off got a big edge.

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Speaker 7: See you later. Buy at Latham and Williamson came together.

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Speaker 7: Williamson actually got clean bowl but it turned out to

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Speaker 7: be a no ball. Oh no, it's the worst thing

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Speaker 7: ever in cricket. We're the guy in my cricket team

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Speaker 7: called no ball boonie. Do you wonder why? No, precisely,

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Speaker 7: it's one of those things. So Ego left. But Williamson

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Speaker 7: pretty average. For kana half century. Tom Latham managed to

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Speaker 7: eke out twenty four of eighty five deliveries. It's test cricket,

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Speaker 7: after all. Someone might want to explain that to the English.

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Speaker 7: We've got lost for Revenge of the'se gone Bold seals

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Speaker 7: me the bulls a bit hoopy with the conditions in

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Speaker 7: christ Church. But I've been so busy trying to rustle

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Speaker 7: a program I really haven't watched much of except the

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Speaker 7: Odd Hole.

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Speaker 2: We were just giving the Windy some grief and saying

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Speaker 7: Hey, it's a long long time to go. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: What I read somewhere somebody was saying, and I can't

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Speaker 2: just saying they need to go a bit old school

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Speaker 2: and drop the bass ball or drop the bas ball

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Speaker 2: when it's appropriate to drop the bas ball, which does

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Speaker 2: seem like that is quite good advice.

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Speaker 7: Eh, Yeah, And that might have been Jeffrey Boycott. No,

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Speaker 7: it wasn't both of them.

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Speaker 2: It was today. It might have been both.

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Speaker 7: Now, I could have been anybody. No one's happy with

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Speaker 7: the way they go, but look, this is what this

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Speaker 7: is the way we play. Deal with it. If you

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Speaker 7: don't like it's going to fall apart.

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Speaker 2: Every now and then, way like that all the time?

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Speaker 7: Well you can what if it comes off eighty percent

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Speaker 7: of the time, do you take it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably you could push it to one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: twenty percent of the time you played differently.

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Speaker 7: And I'm talking about good new ones. Yeah, it's called now,

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Speaker 7: it's called impossible. It's Test cricket. You're never gonna win

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 7: Have a flog? At least it's entertaining for the masses.

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Speaker 7: Unless you bought tickets for Day three.

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Speaker 3: Four or five.

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Speaker 2: Darcy. The Neple Revolution is an interesting one, which we

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Speaker 2: Whose gas you're hearing?

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Speaker 3: Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather duplicl and drive with one New Zealand coverage

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Speaker 1: like no one else news talksb hither.

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you get the Deputy mirror then? If Wayne

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Speaker 2: Brown is unavailable lord, because Disley was unavailable as well.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like no one wants to talk about this record

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Speaker 2: because they're going too fast. Murray Olds is going to

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Speaker 2: rowdy today. Finance Minister Nichola Willis appeared at the Finance

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Speaker 2: We're going to move back to the primaries.

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Speaker 11: But first.

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Speaker 12: Minister is really interesting and backed by the name, called

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Speaker 7: We're going to We're going to go to a primary

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Speaker 2: Been country and reckless.

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Speaker 7: Fewer than that.

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Speaker 2: So we'll get you across that shortly. There is hope

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Speaker 1: The day's newspakers talked to Heather First, Heather Duplessy Ellen

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Speaker 2: Time to talk through politics. Now on Wayne Brown. So Ray,

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Speaker 2: all the questions that were posed by Jordan Williams and

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Speaker 2: which ye blew my mind to know that it's a

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Speaker 3: It's the world wires on news talks they'd be drive.

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Speaker 2: The Trump administration has been accused of war crimes regarding

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Speaker 2: a strike on a suspected drug voat. The US media

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Speaker 13: If that reporting is true, it's a clear violation of

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Speaker 2: Steve Wikoff and Jared Kushner are due to meet with

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Speaker 7: The Queen must know definitely, if the war owns the whole.

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Speaker 2: And finally, you take a camera owned by the late

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Speaker 2: Pope Francis has sold at auction for thirteen million New

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance Peace of mind

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Speaker 2: Murray Old Jockey correspondents to Vasalo mus Yeah, good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: I can assure you, what do you make of the

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Speaker 4: So look, anything they can do to make it safe

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Speaker 4: the whole lot better we're.

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Speaker 15: Going to be off listen.

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Speaker 2: I was interested in what this Australian, the regulator in

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Speaker 4: On the same day Heather, the World Health Organizations come

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Speaker 4: out and said, listen to Zempic's great. It is not

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Speaker 4: a magic solution to help people lose weight, but I'll

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Speaker 4: tell you what, it's pretty bloody good at doing it,

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Speaker 4: and so you know, no worries, but doctors should take

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Speaker 4: care of prescribing it. Here's the thing, Professor barbarat Mintz

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Speaker 4: says a zempiic is more effective than any other obesity drug,

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Speaker 4: but there's still not a lot of information available. It

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Speaker 4: has been around long enough, so the extent to which

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Speaker 4: people are reporting suicidal thoughts we just don't know at

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Speaker 4: this moment. But I suppose if it's considered significant enough

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Speaker 4: for the Therapeutic Goods administration to put out this warning.

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Speaker 4: I guess someone's pretty worried about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mass thanks very much, really appreciate it. Murray Old's

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Speaker 2: Australia correspondent nineteen away from five.

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Speaker 3: Heather do for see Allen.

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Speaker 2: So this is weird. So I got somebody got in

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Speaker 2: touch with me today and they said, hey, have you

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Speaker 2: seen what Sophie Hanford stuck up on it Instagram? Now

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Speaker 2: Sophie had like, don't worry if the name means nothing

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Speaker 2: to you. Sophie Hanford is the Labor candidate for I

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Speaker 2: want to say, the Carpety Coast somewhere in Wellington. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: very young, very promising, young politician. Used to be involved

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Speaker 2: with the school strike, the climate then and has made

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Speaker 2: a bit of a name for herself. Has been on

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Speaker 2: the council over there in Wellington, I think, on the

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Speaker 2: Carpety Coast and has now been you know, is now

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Speaker 2: the Labor candidate. So should she make it through the

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Speaker 2: next election, she'll be a Labor MP anyway. So we

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Speaker 2: went to have a look. What she's put on her

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Speaker 2: Instagram account is basically a video where she has a

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Speaker 2: crack at the government saying it's letting us down. On

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Speaker 2: the climate, and it's weakening protections and it's rolling back initiatives.

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Speaker 2: But at the bottom of the post it says the

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Speaker 2: thing is paid for by the European Union, which is bizarro,

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Speaker 2: isn't it? I mean, because how weird is it that

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Speaker 2: you would have a foreign block paying a potential opposition

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Speaker 2: MP at this stage of potential opposite, certainly an opposition

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Speaker 2: candidate to take cracks at the domestic government anyway, So

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Speaker 2: I got in touch with Sophia, said what's going on here?

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Speaker 2: Why are you taking money from the European Union to

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Speaker 2: have a crack at your own government? She says she

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Speaker 2: doesn't know, She doesn't know how the EURO She says,

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Speaker 2: she's admitted that she took money for the post. She

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Speaker 2: took money from the Global Covenant of Mayors for Climate

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Speaker 2: and Energy, but was told to put at the bottom

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Speaker 2: paid for by the EU. And she can't quite explain

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Speaker 2: why the EU is the one who is who she's

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Speaker 2: crediting for it. It must be that the EU is

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Speaker 2: the primary funder of the Global Covenant of Mayors and

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Speaker 2: Climate Energy. Anyway, Sophie doesn't feel good about the situation

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Speaker 2: now because she's a labor candidate. So she's going to

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Speaker 2: take the post and she's going to leave it up

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Speaker 2: there for the you know, the contractually obliged period of

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Speaker 2: time however long that is, and then she's going to

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Speaker 2: pull it down. Then she's going to donate the money.

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Speaker 2: And it sounds like it's not a lot of money,

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Speaker 2: like a few hundred dollars she's going to donate to

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Speaker 2: forest and bird. But what I think is interesting here

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Speaker 2: number one, is that the EU is funding these outfits

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Speaker 2: to take cracks basically to funding people to take cracks

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Speaker 2: at their domestic governments for what's going on with the climate.

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Speaker 2: And remember this is the EU one of two because

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Speaker 2: remember the stories are going on at the moment. There's

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Speaker 2: stuff's been reporting on the fact that the EU and

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Speaker 2: the UK have been raising concerns at official level with

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Speaker 2: our government about climate targets. Right, so the EUS like

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Speaker 2: really working the space very hard. But also the second

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Speaker 2: thing I think is really interesting is that we have

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Speaker 2: young people who are on the instat at the moment

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Speaker 2: and are doing all these you know, good like and

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Speaker 2: they're goody two shoes cats right there, the head girls

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Speaker 2: and the prefect type kids who are doing all the

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Speaker 2: right things, saying all the right yay climate change, and

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Speaker 2: then then you find out they are actually being paid

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Speaker 2: for it, so that makes it a lot less. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I feel my vibes about my vibes about

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Speaker 2: like my vibes about somebody saying nice things about the

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Speaker 2: climate when I find out they're getting a little bit

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Speaker 2: of the poo tia kind of evaporates a wee bit.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Five Politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get

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Speaker 2: Verry So for senior political correspondents with us Ello Barry,

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Speaker 2: good afternoon, Heather. Right, So tamotha Pool's got got to

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Speaker 2: tamotha Pool's got to grill police commissioner, which is kind

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Speaker 2: of ironic because she wants to defund the police.

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Speaker 16: Yes, well it struck me is yes, rather strange that

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Speaker 16: here she was sitting there. It is what do they

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Speaker 16: call it, the week at parliaments, basically putting all the

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Speaker 16: government departments up scrutiny.

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Speaker 7: That's the what I'm looking for, scrutiny week.

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Speaker 16: So for heads of government departments at times it must

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Speaker 16: be difficult. This for the Commissioner of Police, Richard Chambers,

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Speaker 16: must have been quite difficult Tamotha Paul because from the Greens,

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Speaker 16: of course she'll he'll be quite aware of her view

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Speaker 16: of the police and that their job could essentially be

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Speaker 16: done by Maori Warden's council Wardens, community initiatives and other

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Speaker 16: management practices that I think she said they're having more

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Speaker 16: police on the beat essentially makes people more afraid because

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Speaker 16: they see the cops about and I think there's trouble.

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Speaker 16: But anyway, that's the background her Today she was firing

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Speaker 16: questions at Richard Chambers, but taking up the case for Maldy,

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Speaker 16: who she says are disproportionately being charged for cannabis offenses.

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Speaker 12: Here she is Malory in the last year are now

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Speaker 12: more highly charged with possession of cannabis than Parker, despite

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Speaker 12: the fact that we are only fifteen percent of the

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Speaker 12: population and Partier.

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Speaker 7: Are the majority. So how does that work out?

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Speaker 12: How is there such a massive difference in the discharging

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Speaker 12: of discretion if not systemic races?

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Speaker 7: I would want to understand beyond just those high level statistics.

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Speaker 7: It's too simplistic to sort of say that, oh, that

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Speaker 7: must equate to meaning this, but.

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Speaker 12: It does correlate with police being granted more discretion on

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Speaker 12: cannabis convictions and possession directly correlates with Maori being more

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Speaker 12: highly convicted the population.

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Speaker 7: But I think we'd need to have a closer look

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Speaker 7: at the circumstances.

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Speaker 17: Frankly, I joined New zealem Place thirty years ago to

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Speaker 17: be the best placement I can.

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Speaker 7: That hasn't changed. That means I can still get my

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Speaker 7: hands deny.

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Speaker 16: He was saying, is that about that particular comment was

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Speaker 16: that look somebody put it pointed out to him that

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Speaker 16: at a couple of stages he stopped. When he's seeing

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Speaker 16: the police frontline police having a few issues with people,

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Speaker 16: he stepped out and walked over to them and take

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Speaker 16: taking the people into custody.

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Speaker 2: Himself as the police commiss As the police commissioner, where

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Speaker 2: does he do this when he's out on the town

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Speaker 2: having a drug.

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Speaker 16: Who knows, But it was put to him that that's

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Speaker 16: what he does on the old occasion. I think a

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Speaker 16: lot of people would say that's bloody good that a

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Speaker 16: police commissioner can come down to their level and assist

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Speaker 16: them when they're having problems with people on the street.

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Speaker 16: The other thing, maybe Tamitha Paul should consider more Maley

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Speaker 16: being caught for smoking dope rather than us, rather than

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Speaker 16: a racial issue being involved in this. It's easy to

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Speaker 16: apply the racist comment, but and she did it against

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Speaker 16: the police today. Easy to say, But honestly, I don't

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Speaker 16: think there's I don't think there's racism in the police

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Speaker 16: at all.

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Speaker 2: Listen, have we got an update on Andy Coster that

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Speaker 2: suggests they've almost managed to sack him.

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Speaker 16: Well, I don't know about sacking them.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what they're doing. Second, well, I.

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Speaker 7: Would imagine they are. But he wasn't.

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Speaker 16: Of course at Scrutiny Week this week. His deputy had

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Speaker 16: to sit in for him. But David wrote, David Roach

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Speaker 16: Brian So, Brian Roach was on his way into the

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Speaker 16: committee today and he stopped to have a word to journalists.

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Speaker 16: If you listen to Roach, the inquiry is definitely in

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Speaker 16: his final stages.

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Speaker 18: I don't have an exact date, but I'm really confident

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Speaker 18: that we're going to get there and remove the uncertainty

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Speaker 18: that everyone has. I recognize this has got a high

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Speaker 18: level of public interest. We have had to do it

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Speaker 18: properly according to the law, and I'm confident that we've

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Speaker 18: done that.

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Speaker 6: We'll get to the end.

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Speaker 3: When we get to the end.

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Speaker 18: I want it done as soon as I possibly can.

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Speaker 16: So I think essentially what he's saying there is a

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Speaker 16: decision on cost of futurism, a decision.

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Speaker 2: On Costa's future. Barry, they're sacking him.

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Speaker 16: Okay, I mean, I'm just listening to what sir Brian

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Speaker 16: Roach's decision.

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Speaker 2: It's basically it's them trying to actually get to the

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Speaker 2: back of the end of it. And he keeps on

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Speaker 2: putting up a fight by the looks of him.

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Speaker 16: Well, now listen, no, I don't think Brian Roach is

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Speaker 16: putting up a fight.

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Speaker 2: I think, hey, what do you make of this business

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Speaker 2: of the EU funding Instagram posts attacking our government?

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Speaker 16: Well, I think what this young woman should have been

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Speaker 16: put before was a candidate school and all the parties

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Speaker 16: have them, and if she's been through that should know

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Speaker 16: that you don't appear on behalf of anybody else, certainly

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Speaker 16: an outside influence like the European Union. I think you

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Speaker 16: know she's made a major mistake here. But don't forget hither.

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Speaker 16: You You've had an interview in the past with school

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Speaker 16: strike for Climate New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Don't Barry, are you mentioning are you going to mention

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Speaker 2: is he I.

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Speaker 16: Was going to mention, is he?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got the BSA told me often I have

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Speaker 2: to pretend it.

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Speaker 16: Well, yes, I thought it was a good interview and

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Speaker 16: it was certainly warranty.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, some people did enjoy it at

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Speaker 2: the time. To leave it there, thank you, Barry Barry

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Speaker 2: so jeez, honestly, senior political correspondent. It's away from five here,

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Speaker 2: they stop being so hard on Barry. He's a leegend.

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Speaker 2: Let him rant. Okay, five away from your regret saying

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Speaker 2: that you're a regret, saying that if you have to

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Speaker 2: listen to it for hours on end five away from five.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk to the Police Minister Mark Mitchell

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Speaker 2: after five because there've been questions obviously in the wake

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Speaker 2: of the GEVAM skimming business and then all the other

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Speaker 2: stuff that's going on with the cops, you know, the order,

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Speaker 2: the other the other cops found with dodgy stuff on

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Speaker 2: their devices, and the cops have been you know, doing

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Speaker 2: the breath faking, the breath testing and all is going

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Speaker 2: to carry on. There are questions around the police culture.

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Speaker 2: The Police Commissioner has defended it as scrutiny week. This week.

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Speaker 2: He says, absolutely fine, there's no problem. We'll talk to

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Speaker 2: the police minister about whether he has a confidence in that.

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Speaker 2: Can I say, I am surprised at the level of

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Speaker 2: text coming through people who are furious in Auckland about

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Speaker 2: having to pay for the costs of the CURL. This

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Speaker 2: is the train set that runs underneath the city. Hither

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Speaker 2: don't the users of the system pay? You know that

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Speaker 2: thing called train fair Hither I'm in Auckland. I am

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Speaker 2: not paying one cent towards the city rail. User pays,

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Speaker 2: user pays, user pays, and I don't use it. Hither

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Speaker 2: Why should the North Shore ratepays have to pay for

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Speaker 2: a train set that none of us will ever use?

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Speaker 2: Here the London Underground recovers seventy percent of the costs

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Speaker 2: through fares. Then add this to the advertising in the

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Speaker 2: stations and leasing station space for retail activities and they

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Speaker 2: make a bunch of money and it goes on. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: We'll have a chat to Wayne Brown about it when

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Speaker 2: he finally calls us through, should he actually get around

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Speaker 2: to calling. I have hopes. I have Look, I mean,

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Speaker 2: the man cannot be in meetings, you know, from four

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Speaker 2: to seven, like nobody is in meetings for three hours

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Speaker 2: on end right, so minute he breaks, he'll call us

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Speaker 2: and we'll get it. Get it done for you here

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Speaker 2: that at the start of the program you were talking

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Speaker 2: about or zempic, did you say correctly that nearly a

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Speaker 2: quarter of New Zealanders are overweight or obese? Correct one

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Speaker 2: point for more than a quarter. One point five million

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Speaker 2: New Zealanders have a BMI over thirty, which means you're

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Speaker 2: fat if you have a BMI over thirty. Look, I

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Speaker 2: mean some of them will be like all blacks. They'll

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Speaker 2: have really really huge muscles, which will make them technically obese,

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Speaker 2: but actually in real life not at all. But everybody

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Speaker 2: else just giant and fat. And that is why we

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Speaker 2: cannot afford the Wigovi, because we're paying for the Wigovi

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Speaker 2: for what like basically about what quarter to a third

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Speaker 2: of us anyway, into chronologist Ricky Murphy is going to

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Speaker 2: be thus very shortly to see whether you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: they disagree with me, you still said, means.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can try truck to ask

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Speaker 1: the questions, you get the answers, find a fat sack

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Speaker 1: and give the analysis. Here the dupe of Clan Drive

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Speaker 1: with one new Zealand and the power of satellite mobile

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Speaker 1: news talk.

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Speaker 2: Said b afternoon. The woman at the center of the

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Speaker 2: Geva mcskimming scandal has spoken out for the first time

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Speaker 2: today and called for further inquiries into police culture, and

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Speaker 2: at the same time, the Commissioner, Richard Chambers, has appeared

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Speaker 2: at Scrutiny Week in Parliament and told Parliament he doesn't

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Speaker 2: think that police have a culture issue.

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Speaker 11: Commissioner, do you think that there is a problem with

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Speaker 11: police culture?

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Speaker 7: No, those that do fall below expectations. My expectation is

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Speaker 7: that we act on that and we deal with them.

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Speaker 2: Mark mitchell is the policeman has stand with us.

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Speaker 3: Now home match, Hi here the how are you well?

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Speaker 2: Thanks mate? What do you think culture issue or no?

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Speaker 19: So I think that there was definitely, without a doubt,

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Speaker 19: clearly a culture issue with the previous police executive. But

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Speaker 19: I also agree with the Commissioner that if you see

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Speaker 19: someone that falls below the stands of the police, then

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Speaker 19: action needs to be taken on that. Without a doubt

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Speaker 19: you would have seen him as the incoming commissioner. He's

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Speaker 19: put guard rails back up around the use of devices

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Speaker 19: doing audits to make sure that there's a really clear

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Speaker 19: message throughout the whole service that the standards and integrity

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Speaker 19: and those police values are inherently so important. But the

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Speaker 19: one thing that I would say is that, yes, we

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Speaker 19: had that previous police executive that departed from those values

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Speaker 19: and clearly had a lack of integrity, you also had

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Speaker 19: four very senior police officers that stood up with bravery

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Speaker 19: and stuck to those police values and showed enormous integrity.

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Speaker 19: And I think that the fifteen thousand people that we

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Speaker 19: have either sworn or non sworn around the country, they

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Speaker 19: more likely reflect those values than the values of that

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Speaker 19: police executive.

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Speaker 2: So that's a no to another inquiry.

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Speaker 19: At the moment, we don't see the need for that

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Speaker 19: because the IPCA report was very clear, it had lots

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Speaker 19: of detail in it. That's given the police of roadmap

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Speaker 19: to work off in terms of their own internal work

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Speaker 19: and turnal inquiries investigations. And we're being very clear from

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Speaker 19: government that we're going to put a Inspector General in place,

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Speaker 19: and we think that that's going to be a really

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Speaker 19: strong check and balance to try and give the public

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Speaker 19: the confidence they need, and we're working hard to do

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Speaker 19: that that we're taking the action required that we don't

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Speaker 19: have that happen again in our country.

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Speaker 2: Is it the case that all senior cops are now

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Speaker 2: having their Internet usage audited?

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Speaker 19: Well, there's guardrails in place now around there's lots of

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Speaker 19: what it's going on. Absolutely, the Commissioner and the senior

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Speaker 19: team are making sure that there's a health check done

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Speaker 19: around standards and integrity.

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Speaker 2: Why only the senior cops are not all police?

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Speaker 19: No, I don't know if it's all senior police. That

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Speaker 19: is very operational.

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Speaker 11: You have to come from that.

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Speaker 19: But I know that there's been guardrails put back in

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Speaker 19: place around the use of police devices.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Mitch, thank you very much as always, Mark Mitchell.

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Speaker 2: Police Minister Heather Duplicy Allen Farmac is currently considering funding

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Speaker 2: will go vie for people who can't pay for it

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Speaker 2: for themselves. This is obviously the weight loss drug. There

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Speaker 2: are two funding applications. One would be for people with

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Speaker 2: a BMI over twenty seven who suffer from cardiovascular disease,

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Speaker 2: and the other one is for chronic weight management for

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Speaker 2: people with a BMI over thirty or at least one

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Speaker 2: really come morbidity. Rinky Murphy is a professor of medicine

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Speaker 2: at Auckland University and a weight loss expert in with

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Speaker 2: us HIG Rinky.

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Speaker 11: Oh, hello, Heather.

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Speaker 2: Should Farmac say yes to these?

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Speaker 11: I would love for SAMAK to say yes to this,

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Speaker 11: but it is up to their processes as to how

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Speaker 11: they do come to that decision. I know that they're very,

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Speaker 11: very expensive at the moment, and that they're simply not

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Speaker 11: affordable for everyone. We'd love to be able to offer

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Speaker 11: these medications for is.

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Speaker 2: The smartest thing to wait until these medications come off

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Speaker 2: patent which starts happening in March next year, so presumably

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Speaker 2: you start getting the knockoffs at a much cheaper price sooner.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, and then start something that. Absolutely, there is a

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Speaker 11: bit of a way to get the generics tested as

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Speaker 11: well and get them approved. But yes, in time they

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Speaker 11: will become cheaper and that would be the smartest thing

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Speaker 11: to do.

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Speaker 2: And Rinki, would you fund it? I mean, would you

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Speaker 2: go to the extent of funding it potentially for anybody

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Speaker 2: with a BMI over thirty or anybody who has comorbidities

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Speaker 2: or whatever, and then fund it on an ongoing basis

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Speaker 2: pretty much for the rest of their lives.

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Speaker 11: I think ideally there should be all medications need to

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Speaker 11: be a nuanced decision with both the prescriber and the

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Speaker 11: person receiving the medication having that discussion as to what

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Speaker 11: the benefits are, what the side effects are, and taking

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Speaker 11: it from there. If we had to look at things

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Speaker 11: from a cost effectiveness point of view, then looking at

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Speaker 11: people who are responding and are finding that it has

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Speaker 11: been a big life changer in terms of both the

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Speaker 11: amounts of weight loss, what their starting weight was, what

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Speaker 11: sort of combabilities they had, And the most exciting thing

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Speaker 11: is about the cardiovascular benefits and people with heart attacks

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Speaker 11: and strokes actually benefiting from these medications.

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Speaker 2: Now the who seems to have said overnight that it

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Speaker 2: supports long term use. How long is long term use?

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Speaker 2: How long is okay for people to be on these drugs.

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Speaker 11: We don't have long term trials. We do know that

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Speaker 11: from observational studies that people have been taking these medications

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Speaker 11: in the class for a long long time, particularly at

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Speaker 11: the lower doses that we used for type two diabetes,

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Speaker 11: and it's been used since sort of a DK two

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Speaker 11: thousand and five or twenty years for type two diabetes,

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Speaker 11: ten years for the higher doses for obesity management. So

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Speaker 11: they seem to be well tolerated and are safe long

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Speaker 11: term observationally, but that isn't the same as having the

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Speaker 11: randomized trials and those will be very expensive to do.

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Speaker 11: Yet for cadiovascular trials to look extraordinary with having that

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Speaker 11: early benefit for lowering heart attacks and strokes.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Hey, Rinky think good to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your time. It's Rinky Murphy, Professor of Medicine

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Speaker 2: at Auklan Universities. Thirteen past five givers do for CLO.

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Speaker 2: Australia looks like it's going to do a U turn

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Speaker 2: on the plan to ban credit card surch charges over there.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you about it because obviously our government is

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Speaker 2: planning to do the same thing ban the credit card

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Speaker 2: surch charges in Australia. That had the same response, which

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Speaker 2: is a backlash from busyusinesses over there. It's the Reserve

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Speaker 2: Bank in Australia who's doing it rather than the government

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Speaker 2: over here.

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Speaker 14: The ban.

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Speaker 2: There are some notes that have become available and it

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Speaker 2: appears that what's going on is that the Reserve Bank

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Speaker 2: is considering leaving the ban in place, but then having

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Speaker 2: some exemptions and allowing some credit cards to continue to

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Speaker 2: copp A surcharge, and those ones would be the corporate

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Speaker 2: credit cards and the credit cards on which customers pay

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Speaker 2: higher annual fees to earn the frequent flyer points because

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Speaker 2: those cards are more expensive with the surcharges, so businesses

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Speaker 2: really have to pay a lot to accept it. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: keep an eye if Australia is making the move, keep

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Speaker 2: an eye on our government, because I would not be

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Speaker 2: surprised if our government also does a little u turn,

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Speaker 2: a little flip, a little tweak to keep businesses happy.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen past five. So if you're in the market for

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Speaker 2: a car, you already know, don't you, that BYD's got

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Speaker 2: all the new models arriving in New Zealand next year,

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Speaker 2: and you already know how affordable they are. So let

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Speaker 2: me tell you about it again, just in case you've forgotten.

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Speaker 2: The BYD aat oh one pricing starts at twenty nine

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Speaker 2: nine hundred ninety dollars plus on road costs. That is

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Speaker 2: a steal because this car was named one of Time's

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Speaker 2: Best Inventions of twenty twenty five. And what is that

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Speaker 2: the cheapest electric vehicle in New Zealand when it arrives

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Speaker 2: All electric compact Hatch five star safety rating. Then you've

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Speaker 2: got the BYD Attitude, which is a little bit bigger.

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Speaker 2: It's a compact suv designed for families, ample technology, heaps

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Speaker 2: the safety features. That's priced from thirty nine nine hundred

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Speaker 2: and ninety dollars plus on road costs. And if you

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Speaker 2: want a really big one, you want to go for

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Speaker 2: the BYDC Line five plug in super hydred mid size

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Speaker 2: suv offering. It's got over one thousand k's combined range,

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Speaker 2: perfect vehicle for modern families, exceptional value. Price to thirty nine,

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Speaker 2: nine hundred and ninety dollars plus on road costs. All

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Speaker 2: of these cars are available for pre order now check

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Speaker 2: it out byd Auto dot Co, Don and Z or

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Speaker 2: your nearest dealer ever Duper c Ellan eighteen past five.

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Speaker 2: Now it turns out you might not need to feel

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Speaker 2: as guilty when you go to buy a loaf of

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Speaker 2: white bread at the supermarket, because the study into the

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Speaker 2: bread that we eat has found out that your regular

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Speaker 2: loaf is now getting less salty. Dave Monroe is the

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Speaker 2: food and nutrition manager at the Heart Foundation and with us.

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Speaker 2: Hello Dave, Hello, Dave.

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Speaker 8: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 2: I can hear you? Can you hear me? Yes, connection

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Speaker 2: is made all right, Listen, Dave, was salt the problem?

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Speaker 17: Look, well, hind takes of salt are directly linked with

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Speaker 17: the high blood pressure, which is a major respective heart disease.

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Speaker 17: And we need to remember that bread is the leading

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Speaker 17: source of salt in our diets. So what our research

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Speaker 17: looked at was company's efforts to really reformulate or reduce

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Speaker 17: the salt levels and bread over the last twenty years.

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Speaker 7: And what we found is that white bread now.

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Speaker 17: Has twenty five percent less sodium in it than it

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Speaker 17: did twenty years ago, which is a great success.

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Speaker 2: Do you eat white bread?

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Speaker 17: I think occasional. Occasionally I eat a range of breads

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Speaker 17: from pitters to wraps, to bit of white bread.

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Speaker 8: To a bit of grain bread.

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Speaker 17: So I think the great thing is now we have

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Speaker 17: so much forvariety and choice in the bread category.

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Speaker 2: So what I was surprised by this morning when I

877
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: was reading the paper was that you've got this lineup

878
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: of like, not you, but there is a lineup of

879
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: about five different loaves of bread that are actually really

880
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: good breads to eat. One of them is a Vogels,

881
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: no surprise. The other one is a white bread. Is

882
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: that okay?

883
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 4: Yeah?

884
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 17: Look, I think we need to appreciate that there's a

885
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 17: bread is a staple food in the diet of many

886
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 17: New Zeanders, and you know, the a range of more

887
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 17: premium breads that are available through to low cost breads,

888
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 17: and what our work in the space and with bread

889
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 17: companies is focused on has been trying to make changes

890
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 17: to you know, really those low cost breads. So yeah, again,

891
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 17: those white breads, those and the grainy breads are actually

892
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 17: a lot lower in sodium than they were, you know,

893
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 17: twenty years ago. But we do when we come to

894
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 17: choosing breads, we need to be looking at things like

895
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 17: the fiber level, choosing a bread with more than say

896
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 17: five grands of five per one hundred grand, looking at

897
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Speaker 17: those sodium levels, comparing the nutrition information penal on packages

898
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 17: and choosing ones with less sodium.

899
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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you very much, d I've really appreciated. It's

900
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: Dave Munroe, who is, of course, you know, a heard

901
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: of nutrition manager at the Heart Foundation and knows this stuff. Listen,

902
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's happening at the moment. Tomorrow, there

903
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: is a business summit that's on the US Business Summit

904
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: on an Auckland. You're can have whole bunch of diplomats,

905
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: a whole lot of business people who you have things

906
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: to do with the US New Zealand business people, US

907
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: business people, blah blah blah. The keynote speaker is a

908
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: chap called Professor Dan Schner from the University of California.

909
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: And what's interesting about this guy is that he is

910
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: there to give these guys tips on how to navigate

911
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: Trump's America, how to do deals with Trump's America, and

912
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: particularly with Trump. So he's with us. If you're not

913
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: going to the conference, never fear, because he's going to

914
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: be with us after six and I'll get those tips

915
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: for you. Heather, tell that muppet from the north Shore

916
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: that the rest of Auckland pay for the north Shore

917
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: Bus Expressway and the one million dollar curtain for the

918
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 2: Devenport Library. You're welcome. Let's talk a little bit more

919
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: about this rates cap business. Five twenty one.

920
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: The name you trust to get the answers you need,

921
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: it's Heather duplicl and drive with one New Zealand coverage

922
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: like no one else US talk.

923
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: There'd be five twenty three. Listen, I've come around to

924
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: the idea of this rates cap. I didn't like the

925
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: rates cap idea for a very long time, and I

926
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 2: still think that there may be concerns about deferred maintenance.

927
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: I still think that's going to be a problem into

928
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: the future. But in the last couple of days, I've

929
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: started to think that actually, maybe the benefits of doing

930
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: the rates cap outweighs the risks. Do you realize that

931
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: Auckland Council spends two times as much on staff as

932
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: it does on CAPEX for roads. So according to the

933
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 2: guys at the Auckland rate Payers Alliance, the employee costs

934
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: at Auckland Council are one point three billion dollars, the

935
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: roads and footpaths capex six hundred and five million dollars.

936
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: Now that is the wrong way around. I mean that

937
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 2: is a council that has got top heavy and forgotten

938
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,959
Speaker 2: what we actually pay it to do, which is roads,

939
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: rubbish and water, not employ people for the sake of it. Also,

940
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: I don't mind a user pays future, which is the

941
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: biggest threat. This is what the mayors keep telling us,

942
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: keep saying, if you do this, we're just gonna find

943
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: other ways to raise money, and we're gonna raise revenue

944
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: through library fees and pool fees and parking fees all

945
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 2: going up. That is absolutely fine by me. I will

946
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: put my hand up and say start with me. Charge

947
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: me more for my parking because at the moment the

948
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: residents parking permit that I pay for in order to

949
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: park the car occasionally, which is kind of like all

950
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: the time at the moment on the street outside my house,

951
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: that costs me seventy dollars a year. That is not

952
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 2: enough money. In Wellington it was costing me two hundred

953
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: dollars a year. I think personally that the ability to

954
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 2: take up a car park outside your house in the

955
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: middle of the city three hundred and sixty five days

956
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: a year, if you want to, should cost you a

957
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: lot more than seventy dollars. I reckon to be honest,

958
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: it should be around about the vicinity of five hundred

959
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: dollars user pays. And that's me saying that's what I

960
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: should be paying. Right. User pays is surely better than

961
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: the status quo. Right because at the moment that well,

962
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: at least under user pays, we can make decisions based

963
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 2: on our budgets.

964
00:45:58,960 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 12: Right.

965
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: If you don't want to go to the pool and

966
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: pay for more expensive pool, you can go down to

967
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: the beach and do it for free. If you don't

968
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 2: want to pay for the parking, you don't have to

969
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: pay for the parking. You could park on your property,

970
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: or maybe you can sell. You can't take public transport.

971
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: If you don't want to pay for the library, you

972
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: can get yourself a kindle and buy books for cheap

973
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 2: at the moment. If you don't want to pay for

974
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: the rates rises, that's your only option. You do not

975
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: have an option. You have to pay for it. The

976
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: more I think about the rates cap, the more I

977
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: think I actually really like it.

978
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 3: Heather, do Psyllo, We'll get a load of this.

979
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 2: This is wild, This is wild. A guy has appeared

980
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: in court for a jewelry store theft that has a

981
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: wild twist in it. So it was an Auckland Central

982
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 2: jewelry store hasn't been named in the news reports. About

983
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: three o'clock three point thirty Friday afternoon, he goes into

984
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: the store. He must have asked to look at this

985
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: particular item. They get out of faberget James Bond Octopussy

986
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 2: egg pendant, which actually just despite the name, is quite

987
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: a beautiful we necklace. He picks it up it's worth

988
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: thirty four thousand dollars. He picks it up, swallows it,

989
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: pops it in his mouth and swallows it, which is

990
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: quite crafty, because how are you gonna get it back

991
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 2: from him? Because here he is. You can't You can't

992
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: reach down his throat and certainly can't go from the

993
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: other end. You can't do anything at the stage he's

994
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: got it lodged in his body. So what are you

995
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: gonna do. You have to detain him, presumably for several days,

996
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: so they call the cops. The cops come pretty much immediately.

997
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 2: The beat team is there within minutes. They get him.

998
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: They presumably keep him in custody for obvious reasons. He

999
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: appears in Auckland District Court last week. He is due

1000
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: to appear next Monday. The pendant has not been recovered yet,

1001
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: so maybe too much white bread, if you know what

1002
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But now think about this, like think you

1003
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 2: this is thirty four thousand dollars you want this thing back,

1004
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: and just think about the links you're gonna have to

1005
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: go to to get this faberget James Bond, Octopussy defendant

1006
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 2: back and then imagine being like you gonna buy that

1007
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna go, ah, lor Lord, what if you go

1008
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 2: into the jewelry store and it's the Are you gonna

1009
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: pick it up and ever look at it too?

1010
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 8: Now?

1011
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 3: Oh Lord?

1012
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: Anyway, news talks, there'd be news is next.

1013
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

1014
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: your car on your drive home. It's Heather duplicy Ellen

1015
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: drive with one New Zealand had the power of satellite

1016
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: mobile news talks, they'd be.

1017
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 2: Lord.

1018
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 7: We love shopping.

1019
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: We love shopping. We have spent one billion dollars at Kmart.

1020
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 2: It's the first time Kmart New Zealand has passed one

1021
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: billion dollars an annual, say sales. We'll get you across

1022
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: the app. I mean, yay, I mean, how excited are

1023
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: you now? You're gonna have Costco and Kmart and in

1024
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: just a couple more sleeps and you'll have the other

1025
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: big one as well. I care and you could just

1026
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 2: spend so much. Anyway, after six thirty, we'll get we'll

1027
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 2: dive a bit into what's going on with Kmart. They're

1028
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: and widers that we love their offering so much. The

1029
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: huddles By it's twenty four away from six now, New

1030
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 2: South Wales as I told you earlier, was considering restricting

1031
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 2: how fast e bikes can go after a rider was

1032
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: killed by garbage truck in Sydney's CBD. The state wants

1033
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: to cut the amount of power that these bikes have

1034
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: from five hundred wats down to two fifty. Patrick Morgan

1035
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 2: is the spokesperson for Cycling Action New Zealand. Hi, Patrick, Hello,

1036
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: he should we do the same thing.

1037
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 15: There's no need to change the regulation in New Zealand.

1038
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 15: There's already a legal limit of three hundred watts for

1039
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 15: electric pedal assisted bicycles, so the regulation is up to

1040
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 15: date in New Zealand.

1041
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 2: If they have three hundred whatts, how fast can they go?

1042
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 15: Most e bikes are limited to around twenty five or

1043
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 15: maybe thirty two kilometers an hour. That's the kind of

1044
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 15: speed that a fit adult can achieve on a standard bicycle.

1045
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 15: So I think your regulation is appropriate here. What's really

1046
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 15: concerning me are these electric motorcycles that we're now seeing

1047
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 15: on the market that have a seven thousand what power.

1048
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 15: They're illegal to ride in our streets, on our parks

1049
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 15: and trails. You can use them on private land that's

1050
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 15: where they belong. I'm sure there are a lot of fun,

1051
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 15: but let's keep them off our streets and protect the

1052
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 15: young people that are using them.

1053
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: Did you say sorry, it wasn't clear. Did you say

1054
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 2: they are illegal?

1055
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 15: They're use on private land, but if you want to

1056
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 15: use it on the street, they need to be licensed

1057
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 15: and regulated. That means a license plate, that means indicators,

1058
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 15: that means the rider must wear protective equipment. So if

1059
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 15: you see an electric motorcycle doing more than fifty kilometers

1060
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 15: an hour on the street, you know the police and

1061
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 15: councils need.

1062
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 3: To manage that.

1063
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: And are you seeing this happen Patrick, Yes, in the.

1064
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 15: Last couple of years, these electric motorcycles or electric dirt

1065
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 15: bikes are being used on private land.

1066
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Speaker 3: That's not a problem.

1067
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Speaker 15: But once you know, imagine you're fourteen years old, you

1068
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 15: want to try a seven thousand what electric motorcycle?

1069
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: You can see the trouble you How fast can they?

1070
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 15: Now it's properly managed up to ninety kilometers an hour.

1071
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 15: These are motorcycles and like any motorcycle, they need to

1072
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 15: be regulated and managed properly by the authorities.

1073
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 2: Now listen, it seems to me we were talking to

1074
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: our Australia correspondent about this earlier, Murray Olds was telling

1075
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: us that what's going on is a lot of the

1076
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: fires that are being caused by the bike batteries are

1077
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: actually because people are tampering with the batteries. What are

1078
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: they doing?

1079
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 15: I think sometimes there's a mismatch between the charger and

1080
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 15: the motors and the battery on the bike and that

1081
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 15: can lead.

1082
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 3: To a risk of fire.

1083
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 15: However, if you buy your bike legally from a shop

1084
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 15: and use the proper charger, the risk of fire is

1085
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 15: extremely low. In the risk of fires with batteries, it

1086
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 15: is the same with laptops, phones and DIY tools. So

1087
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 15: this isn't really about about bicycles. This is about devices

1088
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 15: that people have tampered with.

1089
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

1090
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 2: New South Wales is also issuing a plea to parents

1091
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Speaker 2: ahead of Christmas not to buy the heads e bikes

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Speaker 2: because they just go too fast. Would you say that

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Speaker 2: that's a good piece of advice for parents.

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Speaker 3: It's good advice.

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Speaker 15: But we're not talking about e bikes here. We're not

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Speaker 15: talking about a three hundred watt electric bicycle that you

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Speaker 15: can pedal the police stare about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're talking about the ones that go

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Speaker 2: up to five hundred. But what about it.

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Speaker 15: They're talking about motorcycles.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, they're talking about the bikes that can go

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Speaker 2: up to five hundred who they have five hundred watts?

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Speaker 2: They say that that's too much for the caddies. Do

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Speaker 2: you think a bike like if you if you're a

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Speaker 2: parent here thinking about buying Yeah, I don't know. Let's say,

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Speaker 2: twelve year old a bike that has three hundred watts power?

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Speaker 13: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Is that wise?

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Speaker 15: I think parents need to know exercise normal parental discretion.

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Speaker 15: It's going to be fine for some young people. But

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Speaker 15: my advice is, you know, get some experience on a

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Speaker 15: regular bicycle first, have fun with that before you move

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Speaker 15: up to a powered electric bike. If you're you know, ten, eleven,

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Speaker 15: twelve years old?

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Speaker 3: Oh my apparenty, what's to head of stay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, my apolicies the police in New South Wales

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Speaker 2: were warning them to actually stick to the legal ones,

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Speaker 2: not the illegal ones, which is what you are talking about.

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Speaker 5: Sure.

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Speaker 15: I think the problem is that there are unlicensed electric

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Speaker 15: motorcycles around and I'm worried that the authorities aren't doing

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Speaker 15: enough to manage that.

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Speaker 2: Patrick, thank you, it was good to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Patrick Morgan's Cycling Action spokesperson. Hey, listen, this has just landed.

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Speaker 2: You know how we spoke yesterday to the school principal

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Speaker 2: who was complaining about the food, the school food that

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Speaker 2: was delivered. This whole thing has got a lot more

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Speaker 2: complicated food safety. New Zealand has just said the most

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Speaker 2: likely thing that has happened here is that that food

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Speaker 2: was given to the school on Thursday and then wasn't

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Speaker 2: refrigerated and then was handed out to the kids on Monday.

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't a David Seymour problem. Wasn't David Seamore

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Speaker 2: poisoning this? The kids might have actually been the school

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Speaker 2: nineteen away from six.

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Speaker 2: How you doing?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Phil, I'm told that you love e bikes and scooters.

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Speaker 8: Oh, I just them walking. I was just wandering down

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Speaker 8: Custom House Key two days ago and a young woman

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Speaker 8: on one of these e scooters went past me, used

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Speaker 8: me as a slale.

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Speaker 4: What have you got?

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Speaker 8: Was on the foot of me doing so twenty televe

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Speaker 8: minutes an hour. I shouted at her and felt very

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Speaker 8: old and curmudgeonly. But it is just dangerous, particularly if

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Speaker 8: you're an older person. Maybe you've got a bit of

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Speaker 8: sight problems, you're trying to walk a dog, maybe you've

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Speaker 8: got a sore leg. You don't know what you're doing.

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Speaker 8: So the challenge is not the speed of these things. Look,

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Speaker 8: if young people want to run to a wall, they're

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Speaker 8: probably going to do that at any speed and hurt themselves,

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Speaker 8: so there's not much you can do about that. But

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Speaker 8: what you can do is get them off the streets

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Speaker 8: where the pedestrians are and get them somewhere else so

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Speaker 8: they can be traveling at about the same speed as

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Speaker 8: everything around them. I don't care because I hate the scooters.

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Speaker 8: I hate them. I think they should just be banned

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Speaker 8: in the country and e bikes should be allowed only

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Speaker 8: in cyco lanes.

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Speaker 2: But that's my view, yeah, Jack, I mean, look, I

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Speaker 2: do have sympathy for this argument, Jack, because we were

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Speaker 2: going up the road myself and the little guy who's

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Speaker 2: three years old, and he was on his scooter and

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Speaker 2: he almost got taken. He was coming up to a

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Speaker 2: corner and got almost got taken out by an electric

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Speaker 2: scooter with a full grown adult on it. And I

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Speaker 2: feel like, I don't know what the solution is. That

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Speaker 2: it can't carry on like this because people are going

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Speaker 2: to get quite hurt.

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Speaker 20: Two words, the heather bike lanes. That's a turn, I said.

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Speaker 8: I agree. When it comes to the east scooters, you

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Speaker 8: can because you.

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Speaker 20: Could be walking along. The problem is you can't hear

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Speaker 20: them right unless they ring their bells. And even if

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Speaker 20: they ring the bells, they often do it quite late,

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Speaker 20: and so they come up right behind you and it

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Speaker 20: feels like, you know when someone like runs a shopping

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Speaker 20: cart into the backy w ankles or.

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Speaker 8: Something, and yeah, it feels like they're going to do that, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: which I hate.

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Speaker 20: I hate that feeling, but I reckon The solution is

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Speaker 20: simple that they've got to they've got to ride in

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Speaker 20: cycle lanes, and if there isn't a cycle lane available,

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Speaker 20: I think they should be riding.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So Jack, can I put this to you?

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Speaker 10: So?

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Speaker 2: So where I live there is a cycle lane and

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Speaker 2: they still ride on the footpath and we cannot afford

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Speaker 2: to put cycle lanes everywhere. So what do you do

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Speaker 2: in the me like, what do you do on all

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Speaker 2: the roads and all the streets.

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Speaker 20: Well, well, I think within reason, and I don't think

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Speaker 20: anyone's expecting to see eastcooters on State Highway, for example,

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Speaker 20: But I think they should be regulated as we do cyclists.

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Speaker 8: So we we think cyclists don't ride.

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Speaker 20: On the foot path, and I think eastcooters are sufficiently

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Speaker 20: fast that we should expect they ride where cyclists ride.

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Speaker 20: So if there is a bike plane, they ride in

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Speaker 20: a bike plane. And if there's not a bike plane,

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Speaker 20: I think they should be riding on the side of

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Speaker 20: the road where see and cyclist and.

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Speaker 2: Phil even as concerned as I am about my three

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Speaker 2: year old, I can't be okay with that either, because

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Speaker 2: if these dudes are riding on the road, they're going

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Speaker 2: to get taken out by cars, and surely that's far worse.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so just ban them.

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Speaker 11: But we didn't.

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Speaker 8: We went through most of them. We went through most

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Speaker 8: of our lives, most of our society. You know, for instance,

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Speaker 8: Roman times, you haven't had these things. No, why don't

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Speaker 8: we have them now? People say, oh, it's great, it's

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Speaker 8: great for climate change. It keeps me out of cows. Actually,

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Speaker 8: I live in Tierro Welmington, which is the epicenter of

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Speaker 8: all this, which is why you'd re annoyed with it.

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Speaker 8: It Actually it doesn't help climate change at all. It

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Speaker 8: actually probably contributes to our national oblicity. Because he's riding

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Speaker 8: these things.

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Speaker 2: You're supposed to.

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Speaker 8: Walking, So you should get off the g box and walk.

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Speaker 2: Oh lord, listens, you're really showing your age.

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Speaker 8: All right, I'll be free on the buses soon, Jack.

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Speaker 20: I work relatively centrally. I mean, they are incredibly convenient

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Speaker 20: for me. If I want to I live relatively centrally,

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Speaker 20: if I want to drive into town, the time that

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Speaker 20: it would take me to drive into town and to

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Speaker 20: find a park and all that kind of stuff versus

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Speaker 20: riding on an EES scooter, I reckon an ES scooter

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Speaker 20: is at least thirty percent faster. Yeah, and you know,

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Speaker 20: and an ee bike even even more so. So they

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Speaker 20: are extremely convenient, and every person who chooses to do

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Speaker 20: that instead of driving obviously takes a car off the road.

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Speaker 20: But I reckon, we still haven't quite nailed it when

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Speaker 20: it comes to the regulation.

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Speaker 2: I just think people might need to be a little

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Speaker 2: more responsible on them. Anyway, we'll take a break, come

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Speaker 2: back to you. Guys shortly call it.

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Speaker 1: Two the Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the

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Speaker 2: Back with the Huddle, Jack Tayman Fullo Riley Jack. How

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Speaker 2: do you feel about user pays for council services rather

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Speaker 2: than you know, the rate rises.

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Speaker 20: I don't like it, but I also think that I mean,

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Speaker 20: I don't mind it for certain things, right, Like so

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Speaker 20: I think, for example, using a council pool then paying

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Speaker 20: a nominal fee to it to go to the pool

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Speaker 20: is pretty reasonable, but I would still want to make

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Speaker 20: sure that everyone in the community is able to benefit

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Speaker 20: from some of those you know, from from some of

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Speaker 20: those things. That being said, I just think that funding

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Speaker 20: for councils just just totally broken. And when you're thinking

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Speaker 20: about rates camping, like, I think there are just much

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Speaker 20: bigger questions that we need to tackle, like how do

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Speaker 20: we fund the stuff that councils are supposed to look

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Speaker 20: for when I think we all agree that rates have

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Speaker 20: been kind of exhausted, and maybe even a bigger question

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Speaker 20: about like what should councils ultimately be responsible for Because

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Speaker 20: as much as the government says they're all for localism,

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Speaker 20: I think a lot of their policies would suggest otherwise.

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Speaker 8: In the local government space.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm coming around to the idea of user pays

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Speaker 2: on this film because I think that I can see

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Speaker 2: that there is untapped rev you. Like, I mean, if

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Speaker 2: I'm paying seventy dollars to park my car for a

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Speaker 2: year on a central city street because I live in

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Speaker 2: the center city, that's far too low. Like that should

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Speaker 2: be about five hundred buck, shouldn't it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's right. I mean, I'm all for

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Speaker 8: user pays, but I agree with Jack, you need to

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Speaker 8: be cautious a little bit about taking the concept too

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Speaker 8: far where the user simply can't afford it. And I

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Speaker 8: can't take my kids to the swimming pool, and I

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Speaker 8: think that's a very good thing. Well maybe we should

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Speaker 8: charge to that too, But you get the earlier. So

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Speaker 8: I think there's a I'm all for user paces, don't

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Speaker 8: get me wrong, but I think you just you could

1280
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Speaker 8: take it too far. The other thing that will happen

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Speaker 8: if there is rates capping, And I think fun of me.

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Speaker 8: It's a bad idea, but I can understand it's great politics,

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Speaker 8: which is why the government's doing it. That the problem

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Speaker 8: is that that council sort of poor policy and laziness

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Speaker 8: in terms of charging would just blow out into overcharging

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Speaker 8: user pace that she's a user pace should be to

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Speaker 8: cover the cost of it, plus it's more profit. What

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00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 8: they way should do is travel the charge just in

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Speaker 8: order to keep on with the lazy spending. And I'm

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Speaker 8: the victim of that. And Wellington we've had these astonishing

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Speaker 8: rates increases over the last a few years, was nothing

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Speaker 8: much to show for it, frankly, some pretty poor speending

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Speaker 8: decisions here. What I think there will lead to here

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Speaker 8: there is actually a malvamation and I think that's what

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Speaker 8: the government's all about. They take water off, the local

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Speaker 8: government goes. They're now saying, well, one of the ways

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Speaker 8: to stop rates increases being so hi is to just

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Speaker 8: stick to the and get bigger. And I think that's

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Speaker 8: what you'll see now play out. Councilors will start to

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Speaker 8: a malimate services, resource management services, community services and so on,

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Speaker 8: and that's just one step away from the malvel mating.

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Speaker 8: And I must say, I think that's a good idea.

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Speaker 8: I think we should have, for example, one council for

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Speaker 8: Greater Wellington. I think Walkland has largely worked and so

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Speaker 8: I just think we should get on with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would agree with that. Actually, And now, Jack,

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Speaker 2: how do you feel about funding a zenpic.

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Speaker 20: I'm supportive of it, although I think you know, within

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Speaker 20: reason at the moment, my understanding is that we do

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Speaker 20: fund some of these drugs for diabetes. But the thing

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Speaker 20: that would make a real difference, I suppose, or an

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Speaker 20: even greater difference, is whether or not these drugs are

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Speaker 20: funded for obesity.

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Speaker 19: Right.

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Speaker 20: But when you think about all of the flow on

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Speaker 20: affair from people who are overweight in other parts of

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Speaker 20: the health system, like there are just thousands of not

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Speaker 20: tens of thousands of health complications that can be associated.

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Speaker 2: With it more expensive to fund the drugs, Jack, than

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Speaker 2: than to actually just cop it with the old in it.

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Speaker 2: You know, the problem at the end, because I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you fund it for everybody with obesity in this country,

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Speaker 2: it's nine billion dollars a year.

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Speaker 20: Well, can't be everyone, right, Okay, So I mean I'm

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Speaker 20: sure there has to be some sort of you.

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Speaker 11: Know, you know, some sort of.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, or if you say, like you know,

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Speaker 8: you're at this.

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Speaker 20: BMI or whatever, then you know, maybe you reach the

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Speaker 20: threshold where you're funded. But I yeah, I'm sure smarter

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Speaker 20: wants than us can do the cost benefit analysis, but

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Speaker 20: as well as the savings to the to the healthcare

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Speaker 20: system in terms of you know, nights and hospital beds

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Speaker 20: and other drugs and that kind of thing. I mean,

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Speaker 20: the massive improvement in people's lives from not having those

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Speaker 20: health effects related to obesity I always thought is an

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Speaker 20: enorm help.

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Speaker 2: But wouldn't what a smart thing to do here Phil

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01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: be to wait for those that wait for the patents

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Speaker 2: to come off, which starts happening from March, and then

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Speaker 2: you get the cheaper generic stuff and that's like miles cheaper.

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Speaker 8: Well inevitable. That's what they'll do. I mean, I can't

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Speaker 8: imagine they're going to start funding as EMPAIC call these

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Speaker 8: these they're expensive US or European drugs. They'll wait for

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Speaker 8: the I'll wait for the stuff that comes out of

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Speaker 8: China and as those things run off. That's the nature

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Speaker 8: of these things. But I agree with Jack on this,

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Speaker 8: and it you don't find everybody, but might I say,

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Speaker 8: even if you did, I suspect you could find probably

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Speaker 8: that the cost will be marginally only margins worse because

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Speaker 8: the hidden costs of obesity in our health system and

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Speaker 8: our education system and everywhere else. Mental health and so

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Speaker 8: on is probably just massive. It's just invisible, right Inevitably,

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Speaker 8: you won't you won't do everyone. I mean, some people

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Speaker 8: can do lifestyle changes. I mean, I know plenty of

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Speaker 8: people who've had that. They've managed to succeed in terms

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Speaker 8: of some weight loss. But other people can't. And one

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Speaker 8: of the challenges with all this is people seem to say, Wow,

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Speaker 8: if you're able to wait, you're just lazy. You should

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Speaker 8: cut off the get up to the football field. Well

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Speaker 8: that's just not the reality is that that's just not

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Speaker 8: how we're actually living our lives. So maybe we're just

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Speaker 8: going to get real about that and understand these by

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Speaker 8: strokes look pretty good to me, and we should be

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Speaker 8: thinking about finding them because of the great impact that

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Speaker 8: they'll have positively for all sorts of people, including.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, it's good to talk to you. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much, fellow Riley Jack tame our heart of this evening.

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Speaker 2: Seven away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Hard Radio powered by Newstalk Z'B.

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Speaker 2: Here the spot on with the user pays, We pay

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Speaker 2: thirteen thousand dollars a year in rate and we will

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Speaker 2: never use the city rail link due to our location. However,

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Speaker 2: my wife's swim trains three times a week and we

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Speaker 2: are avid readers of library books. I've long advocated for

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Speaker 2: a book charge, obviously with the credit balance before uplifting

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Speaker 2: the next book, and pool charges closer to pool costs. Jeff,

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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more. Do you, Laura, when you go

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Speaker 2: to the library, do you pay a book charge? Do

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Speaker 2: you pay do you pay anything to use the library?

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Speaker 2: There's your problem. There is your problem. Why why? I mean, like,

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Speaker 2: I'm all honest, because you pay rates?

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Speaker 12: Do you?

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Speaker 2: Oh, seriously, just interrogate it for a second, right, Why

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Speaker 2: did I'm not saying libraries. I love libraries. I love

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Speaker 2: a library. But why did counsels decide that it was

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Speaker 2: their jobs to run libraries? Why libraries? Why books? Why

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Speaker 2: not video games? Why not gaming console? I don't know, Like,

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Speaker 2: why did we decide libraries you can go to the library,

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Speaker 2: you can get those at the library. But it's well, okay,

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Speaker 2: fine whatever, I mean. I'm undermining my own arguments as

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Speaker 2: I go, But think about it. Why books? Why books?

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Speaker 2: Why not du vets? Why not beds. Why not just

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Speaker 2: any other write out there that we saw.

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Speaker 21: Hearing from here is that we need to use rates

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Speaker 21: money for more video games at the library and do vase.

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Speaker 21: You know, I'm on board hither I'm on.

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Speaker 2: Live books and why free of charge? Why not a

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Speaker 2: nominal charge. I'm feeling like we need to get Wayne

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Speaker 2: Brown in here because he talks a big game bad

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Speaker 2: days is going to keep the rates slow. We need

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Speaker 2: to get him and we need to go. We've got

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Speaker 2: some ideas for your mate. Here's some parking charges you

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Speaker 2: can increase, put a little nominal fee on the books,

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01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 2: and doesn't mind paying them two dollars a book whatever,

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Speaker 2: not a lot, but over time it'll ladd up, you know.

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Speaker 2: Then we can maybe we can hike the pool prices

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Speaker 2: just to weep it because the beach is free down

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Speaker 2: the road. And I just feel like we could probably

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Speaker 2: solve this problem for Wayne anyway. Donald Trump and how

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01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 2: to navigate him and how to do deals with him,

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01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 2: and how to get your products into the US, and

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Speaker 2: whether you need to be worried about the tariffs. We're

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Speaker 2: going to talk next to Dan Schnur, who's a US

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01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: political analyst and knows all the answers to these questions.

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Speaker 2: News Talks The.

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Speaker 1: Deep where business meets Insight, The Business Hour with Heather

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Speaker 1: Duplessy Allen and Mass Motor Vehicle Insurance.

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Speaker 3: Your futures in good hands. News Talks. They'd be.

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Speaker 2: Even in coming up to the next hour. Hamish mackay

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Speaker 2: on a surgeon dairy conversions in Canterbury. We're going to

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Speaker 2: get you some tips on hand to navigate Trump's America.

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Speaker 2: And Ender Brady does the UK for us. Right now,

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Speaker 2: it's seven past six. Well, as I told you earlier,

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Speaker 2: someone heard us having a crack at the auklamere Wayne

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Speaker 2: Brown earlier out the record rates hike that the super

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Speaker 2: city has just had announced to it. True to his word,

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Speaker 2: Auckland Mayor Wayne Brown has phoned us up high Way. Hello, Heather,

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Speaker 2: you know I was just talking about you just before.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I've heard that's they've been spouting rubbish.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's crack into it. How much is running

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Speaker 2: the CRL actually going to.

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Speaker 8: Cost two hundred and twenty six million a year because

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Speaker 8: it includes you have to pay for it. I know

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Speaker 8: that peoplely thinks I thinks things are free, but the

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Speaker 8: moment it opens, we have to start paying for it.

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Speaker 2: What are you paying for though? Is this the operating

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Speaker 2: cost or is the capital expenditure?

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Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 2: Both, you know, for the operating cost, how much is

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Speaker 2: the operating cost? Way, because that's what we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Is that not?

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Speaker 2: Is that not twenty six million dollars?

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Speaker 8: The title cost is two hundred and twenty six million dollars,

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Speaker 8: which is made up of several things including paying for it.

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Speaker 8: And you have to start with the deal that was

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Speaker 8: struck before ri was it starting Yep, the moment it's

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Speaker 8: handed over to us, we have to start paying for it,

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Speaker 8: whether you use it. And if you don't start paying,

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Speaker 8: but they take it off you?

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Speaker 2: Who takes it off you?

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Speaker 8: You can't the people we owe that we awell the

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Speaker 8: money too. I mean, it's just like if you finish

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Speaker 8: your house that you have to pay for at the end.

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Speaker 8: The moment you move in, you start paying for it.

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Speaker 8: You also have to pay for the telephones and the

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Speaker 8: lights and everything. You have to pay it off.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: But the idea that you move in and you only

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Speaker 8: pay for just the operation it is. That's a sort

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Speaker 8: of a world where people think that capital money is

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Speaker 8: different from operating money. It's all money Okay, I think.

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Speaker 2: That people are talking about different things. So let's just

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Speaker 2: get this right. The operating cost annually is twenty six

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Speaker 2: million dollars. The remainder is the cost of purchasing, the

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Speaker 2: depreciation everything else.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a bit more than twenty six but it

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Speaker 8: is divided up along those lines. It's more or less right.

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Speaker 8: But you start to start paying.

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Speaker 7: So the idea that we don't pay for it, so okay,

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Speaker 7: certainly you can't use it.

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Speaker 8: You use it.

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Speaker 2: The operating cost of the CRL is one percent, yes,

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Speaker 2: one percent race rise.

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Speaker 8: The operating cost the moment you take it over is

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Speaker 8: eleven percent, and you're only getting a seven point nine

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Speaker 8: percent rise because we've saved have to save the other five.

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Speaker 8: But most of what you when you when you pay

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Speaker 8: your race, it's paying things off. They're not free. It's

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Speaker 8: not free to have a raid, it's not free to

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Speaker 8: have a train, it's not free to have a bucket.

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Speaker 3: I really think, no, no, no, we're not.

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Speaker 8: Coming across purposes. Because the idea is the day you

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Speaker 8: have to open, so you have to start paying for it,

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Speaker 8: and that's why the rates went up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, did you know this was coming?

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Speaker 8: Well, yes, of course, I know it's coming the moment,

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Speaker 8: But ten years ago they signed a contract, a contract

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Speaker 8: which I was very critical of. You might mind because

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Speaker 8: A it's taking too long and B it cost too much.

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Speaker 8: But they signed up years ago, and so the day

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Speaker 8: that it finished is you have to start paying the money, okay.

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Speaker 2: And so you knew this was coming in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five and twenty sexist would be paying for it. But

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Speaker 2: by twenty twenty seven, will you still be able to

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Speaker 2: keep your promise that rates rises would be kept at

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Speaker 2: one percent, one point five percent.

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Speaker 8: Three point above. We were, yeah, yes we will, we we.

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Speaker 8: This is really disingenious those Prexit tax payers. That's probably

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Speaker 8: because I told them if off recently. And despite the

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Speaker 8: fact that I exposed that it would be the end

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Speaker 8: of me, that just made me more profitable, more proper popular,

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Speaker 8: because you got to tell the truth sometimes. Then we

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Speaker 8: had a long term plan set up last year. It's

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Speaker 8: called a long term plan for two reasons. One takes

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Speaker 8: a long time to get it and b it stands

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Speaker 8: for the next ten years. And we promised the rate

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Speaker 8: payers last year five point one percent. This year seven

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Speaker 8: point nine was higher than I wanted it to be,

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Speaker 8: But that's because of actions and contracts which assigned years

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Speaker 8: ago by people it weren't me, and we we'll stick

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Speaker 8: to that, and we'll stick to three point five after

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Speaker 8: that because it was a promise to the taxpayers. Are

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Speaker 8: nice to my promises and taxpayer union chase somebody worth

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Speaker 8: chasing you dickheads? All right?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Now Wayne, on something else user pays? Would you

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01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: be okay with the idea because I.

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01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 8: Know it pays? Is the idea of the midnight levy.

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01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally, I'm with you. I'm on board with that.

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01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 2: But the threat that has been coming, no cool, I

1522
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 2: know that the threat that's been coming from councils around

1523
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 2: the country today is that if we cap the rates

1524
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:37,759
Speaker 2: rises at four percent, everything else is going to go up, parking, pools, libraries.

1525
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 2: Would you be okay with that? With increasing the prices

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01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 2: that we paid.

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01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 8: After next year, we will be backing under four percent anyhow,

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01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 8: So that's not a problem.

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01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 2: Okay, So we don't need to know in Auckland, we

1530
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 2: do not need to worry about paying more for parking,

1531
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 2: more for library or pools.

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01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 21: Right.

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01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 8: I don't know about libraries, but parking, for instance, if

1534
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 8: you and I live in the city, as opposed to

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01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 8: everybody else on the council in the city. If you

1536
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 8: live in the city, it's one hundred thousand dollars to

1537
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 8: buy a car park and so people want to park

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01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 8: for nothing.

1539
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I want to get to I want to

1540
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 2: say to you. I live in Freeman's Bay near you, right,

1541
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 2: we live. We live in the same part of the world.

1542
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 2: I'm paying seventy dollars, Wayne, to buy a residential parking

1543
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 2: permit to put my car on the street three hundred

1544
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 2: and sixty five days of a year. You should be

1545
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 2: chanting me five hundred bucks for that.

1546
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 8: Oh, it's unbelievable bargain. You should grab it straight away.

1547
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 8: And I did, just stuck behind some idiots and bloody

1548
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 8: in the wrong vein because of AT mucking things up. Boy,

1549
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 8: I can't wait to get hands on AT. That'll speed

1550
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 8: up East West traffic. I can tell you that trongos

1551
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,879
Speaker 8: they are. But you're right, seventy dollars. People don't understand

1552
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 8: it's one hundred thousand dollars to buy a car parks.

1553
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 8: It's got value.

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01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know what, Wayne, you and I would

1555
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,560
Speaker 2: absolutely agree on that. Well, thank you for coming on

1556
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 2: the show and clarifying that there's so much value in

1557
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 2: having a chat to you. Wayne Brown, Mayor of Auckland,

1558
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 2: true to his word.

1559
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 3: Thirteen past six, Heather Duplessy Ellen.

1560
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Speaker 2: This is how nutty social media is. After the Mercedes

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Speaker 2: F one driver Kemmie Antonelli was accused of handy McClaren

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Speaker 2: the fourth place and guitar and qatar the death threats

1563
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Speaker 2: to his social media accounts. This is just the Sunday

1564
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 2: after the race, right where they normally do get death

1565
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Speaker 2: threats and nutty stuff. The death threats to his social

1566
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Speaker 2: media accounts went up by one thousand, one hundred percent.

1567
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Speaker 2: What a bad place to spend your time. Fourteen past

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Speaker 2: Heather Wayne Brown as gold atr drong goes Heather Wayne

1594
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 2: is a legend. Heather A bed Night Levy is a tax, well,

1595
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 2: of course, I mean simon, of course it is a tax.

1596
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 2: But sometimes I find it is best to just agree

1597
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 2: and move on. You know, there's no point fighting about that.

1598
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 2: But because Wayne called in at six o'clock, it does

1599
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 2: mean that because we're going to talk to Dan Schnurr

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Speaker 2: at six o'clock, it's okay. He's okay talking to us

1601
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 2: at six thirty. So we'll find out that tips on

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Speaker 2: how to deal with Donald Trump's a Maria. Right now,

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01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 2: it's eighteen past six and with us we have Hamish mackay,

1604
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 2: our host of the country, filling in for Jamie McKay. Hi, Hamish,

1605
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 2: good evening, Heather, Hell are you very well? Thank you.

1606
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 2: So we're seeing a big surge in the dairy conversions

1607
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 2: in Canterbury, aren't.

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01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 14: We well, So this downturn and the whole week job,

1609
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 14: the whole arable farming sector is in a bit of

1610
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 14: disarray that you know, the global situation with that. So

1611
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 14: we've got a situation where twenty five thousand more cows

1612
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 14: have been approved on the ground in the Canterbury region

1613
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 14: to go on to some of this arable country and

1614
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 14: possibly another twelve thousand. So yeah, so thirty seven new consents.

1615
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 14: It says more about the fact that the arable sector

1616
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 14: and is struggling and the returns aren't there. And these

1617
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 14: guys have got this land that's easily convertible and at

1618
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 14: the current payout, it makes sense to do it for

1619
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 14: most of them.

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01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: Now are we How are we nearly at the end

1621
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 2: of the Mbovus problem?

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01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 14: Well, there's yeah, I'm going to come off the long

1623
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 14: run a bit on this. We're two years clear. We

1624
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 14: need to be f ivy is to be completely clear

1625
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 14: of it. But you know, the flip side of this

1626
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 14: is the agony and the pain for a lot of

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01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 14: farmers is still going on. I mean, the government set

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01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 14: aside about eight hundred million dollars for reparation compensation cooll

1629
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 14: you what it like, And since then they've also been

1630
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 14: there's a big leavy on beef killed and milk production,

1631
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 14: so there's about one point something billion dollars sitting at

1632
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 14: a kiddy. And yet there are farmers who've gone under,

1633
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 14: and there's been plenty of them, and some have only

1634
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 14: survived through sheer scale. But you know, I tell her,

1635
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 14: was that very job slips closer to nine dollars a

1636
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 14: milk kilogramed milk solids, one or two more will be

1637
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 14: under a bit of pressure. So yes, there's a good

1638
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 14: side to it that we may be seeing some light

1639
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 14: at the end of the tunnel in terms of reaching

1640
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 14: being clear, but in terms of the farmers who got

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01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 14: bloody hammered by this, there's more than one or two

1642
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 14: still being smashed and one or two and the powers

1643
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 14: that be crying a bit about the fact that they've

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01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 14: only paid out two hundred and ninety million dollars in

1645
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 14: the station, well they need to take a bit of

1646
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 14: look at themselves.

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01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, why do you want to talk about lamb?

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01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 14: Well, Lamb? I just we're just talking about lamb on

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01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 14: the show today and yesterday I was at a very

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01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 14: fine Glengarry stud Pole, Dorset sale and your big Soal

1651
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 14: will be going fifty nine years in the manner were

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01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,719
Speaker 14: two and we were just talking about you know, everybody

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01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 14: knows what to do with beef and barbecue and all

1654
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 14: the different cuts, but we wanted to know here, how

1655
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 14: do you cook lamb? How do you prepare lamb? This

1656
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 14: is what we're saying to the recipes for people to

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01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 14: come home. We want to make you want to make

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01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 14: Lamb even greater?

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01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 2: No, do you know, hamoush Honestly, disgracefully, I don't eat

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01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 2: a lot of lamb. I eat a lot of beef,

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01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 2: and I think and if I was to go, if

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01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 2: I was to go lamb, it would probably be at

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01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 2: my mum's house. And she does a mean lamb wreck, right, you.

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01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 14: Were lamb wrecks, you know, And that's probably the fancy

1665
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 14: end of things.

1666
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 8: But you know what, yeah, well you.

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01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 14: Know Barry's every way here. I could pop around with

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01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 14: a nice lamb roast and you would. You would lick

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01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:56,719
Speaker 14: your lips at the thought.

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01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 2: Are we taking this relationship of radio?

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01:16:59,120 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 13: Are we?

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01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 14: I'll just try?

1673
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 8: Are we on here?

1674
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 11: No?

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01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 14: I was just ten hours at one hundred degrees. There

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01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 14: you go, the most succulent thing you could ever have.

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01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 2: Lord, honestly, Homish, thank you very much. It sounds like

1678
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 2: you're having a relationship with your lamb there, Homus mackay,

1679
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 2: host of the Country. Hither you need to educate yourself

1680
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 2: more before you talk about things. Depreciation and interest are

1681
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 2: operating costs not capital cost? No wonder you were as

1682
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 2: confused as Wayne was. Look fair point. The distinction I

1683
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 2: was trying to make was actually this one, which just

1684
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 2: didn't come out properly. The cost of running the thing, right,

1685
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 2: So this is the it's the cost of running the

1686
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 2: thing versus all the other costs. This is where everybody

1687
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 2: seems to have got tripped up. The cost of running

1688
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,560
Speaker 2: the thing is twenty six million dollars a year. That is,

1689
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 2: that equates to one percent apparently in rates hikes. That's

1690
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 2: what the taxpayers Union in the Auckland Rates pays Union

1691
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 2: Auckland Rates spays. Alliance has got itself tied up and

1692
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 2: not it's about and that's where the confusion comes in

1693
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 2: because Wayne Brown has got a much bigger cost. But

1694
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 2: the actual running of the train to two runs along

1695
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 2: the track twenty six million. Thing else a lot more

1696
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 2: twenty two past six.

1697
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro micro or just plain economics, it's all

1698
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 1: on the business hour. With the Heather Duper Clan and

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Speaker 1: mass motor vehicle insurance, your future is in good hands.

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Speaker 3: Us talks' be Hea.

1701
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 2: The Homers is exactly right about the lamb. Ten hours

1702
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 2: at one hundred degrees. It is delicious and you will

1703
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 2: be converted. Colin, thank you for the tip. Look, if

1704
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 2: I've got a spare ten hours, I'm i'm a it

1705
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 2: feels like a winter thing. It does feel like it,

1706
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 2: because you know there's gonna make a hot that's gonna

1707
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 2: make a house real hot, isn't it. So look, I'll

1708
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 2: put in the diary. I'll crank it up in June.

1709
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 2: Here the Kmart reaching record sales tells me that the

1710
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 2: cost of living doesn't just impact the load of middle

1711
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 2: income demographics. What I think is a lot of people

1712
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 2: who went who in the past would shop higher end products,

1713
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 2: are now having to resort to purchasing at Kmark. And no, Paul, no,

1714
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 2: you're wrong, totally wrong. I Number one, do not assume

1715
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 2: that Kmart is a lower end purchase for people. Kmart

1716
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 2: actually is a is a just a smart purchase for people.

1717
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 2: There some fantastic products of Kmart. Like I bought a

1718
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 2: baby sterilizer thing. You know, when you got the babies

1719
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 2: have their little baby bottles, you got to sterilize. It

1720
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 2: was like thirty bucks at k Mart. It's like hundreds

1721
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 2: of dollars elsewhere, perfectly fine, you can it does the job,

1722
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 2: so you can get a whole bunch of if you're

1723
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 2: just clever about it, you purchased there. Plus also it

1724
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 2: actually is quite a cool selection of stuff for just

1725
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 2: like you know, the odd but here and there. And

1726
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 2: I also think this is. I personally think it's more

1727
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 2: of a reflection of just how well k Mart is

1728
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 2: doing in terms of its own buying selection and what

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01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: it is putting on product. It's just a great k

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Speaker 2: Mart story more than anything. We are not going to

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01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 2: talk about Kmart, unfortunately. I was quite looking forward to that,

1732
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 2: but then Wayne pushed everything around because Wayne called him.

1733
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 2: But I think it was worth it to get to

1734
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 2: the bottom of that situation. Right now, it's six twenty six.

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01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,839
Speaker 3: There's no business like show business.

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01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,839
Speaker 2: So we have a film that is being called already

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01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 2: as the best well when I say already, it's the

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01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 2: end of the year, it's being called as the best

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01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 2: film of the year. It's called Marty Supreme and it's

1740
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 2: about a guy who's called Martin who's trying to become

1741
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 2: the best table tennis player who ever lived. Starring Timothy Shallamay,

1742
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 2: how do you live?

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01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 7: Well, I live with the conference that I believe in myself,

1744
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 7: the money you'll follow.

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01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 3: And what do you plan to do with this whole

1746
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 3: dream of yours? Doesn't look it doesn't even enter my consciousness.

1747
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 1: Maybe it's shared.

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Speaker 2: It looks fantastic, by the way. He doesn't even look

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01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 2: like himself and it out the Gate. It's got a

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01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 2: ninety six percent on ross and Tomatoes. Roger Ebert gave

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01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 2: it four out of four stars. The Guardian says it's

1752
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 2: a must see even if you're not the biggest span

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01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,759
Speaker 2: of sports movies, and The Telegraph calls it twenty twenty

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01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 2: five's best film. There is a catch though, you are

1755
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 2: not going to be able to watch it in twenty

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01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 2: twenty five. It's not coming out in New Zealand until

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Speaker 2: late January. And when it does come out, from the

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01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 2: looks of things, it might only come out in a

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01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 2: couple of theaters. But hey, between now and it coming out,

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01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 2: it might get a bit of traction. You never know,

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01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 2: it might go mainstream and you might be able to

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01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 2: go watch it at the old the big theaters. And

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01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 2: also the backing track one of the best songs in

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Speaker 2: the whole wide world ever.

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Speaker 1: Right, everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business Hour,

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01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: we've had the duper c Allen and mass motor vehicle insurance,

1767
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 1: your futures in goodhads used talks'd be.

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Speaker 2: The principle that allowed the food to be left refrigerated

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01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 2: or unrefrigerated over the weekend and then served to students,

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01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 2: should be censured and should apologize to the parents. Well,

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01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 2: actually it's not a good day for Peggy, and I

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01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,679
Speaker 2: will get you across everything that's just happened this afternoon.

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01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 2: Shortly right now, it's twenty five away from seven now.

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01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 2: Obviously been a hell of a year for anyone trying

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01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 2: to do business with the US. Donald Trump's Bazooka trade

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01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 2: tariffs are announced in April, and then we've been dealing

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Speaker 2: with a fallout and the uncertainty ever since. Now from tomorrow,

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01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 2: New Zealand and US business leaders and diplomats will get

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01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 2: together for the US Business Summit. Professor Dan Schneer from

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01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 2: the University of California will give the keynote speech on

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01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 2: how to navigate Trump's America. Let's have a chat to him. Hi, Dan,

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01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 2: thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 13: I really appreciate it.

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01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 2: The pleasure is all mine. Now, what is your number

1785
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: one tip for how to navigate Trump's America?

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Speaker 13: I think the most important thing for any country's leaders,

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01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 13: both political and business leaders, to understand is that Donald Trump,

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01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 13: of course worked in the private sector for many, many

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Speaker 13: years before he ever ran for office, So business leaders

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01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 13: While they have an impact with any US politician, are

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Speaker 13: going to have an even greater impact with Trump. Trump

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01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 13: and his administration, he'll pay attention to the politicians, He'll

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01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 13: pay a lot more attention to the nation's business leaders.

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Speaker 2: So a delegation. I can think the South Africans did that,

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01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 2: didn't they where they rolled up with the president, but

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01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 2: then they had all of these They had a golfer

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01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 2: and they had business leaders. That's the approach to take well, and.

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Speaker 13: It's not only for foreign countries. We're seeing this within

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Speaker 13: the US. The city of San Francisco, which may be

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Speaker 13: the most progressive, left leaning city in the United States

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Speaker 13: of America, when they were worried that Trump, the Trump

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Speaker 13: administration was going to send the Department of Homeland Security

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01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 13: into their streets, they didn't deploy their congressional delegation. They

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01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 13: sent business leaders. So the CEOs of some of the

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01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 13: largest tech companies in northern California contacted the White House

1806
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 13: and they were able to achieve a much more amenable

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Speaker 13: solution than a lot of other cities are on the country.

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Speaker 2: Did Okay, Now, obviously, I mean that's a fantastic idea,

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01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 2: but obviously there is political points to be scored also

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01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 2: for political leaders to be seen having a meeting with

1811
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. So if you had to send your prime

1812
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 2: ministerial president, do you reckon you take the Keyostarma approach

1813
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 2: of fawning, or do you take the Macron approach of

1814
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 2: just going and being a big guy too.

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01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 13: Well, mccron basically hit some pretty fraight territory when he

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01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 13: tried the more frontal approach, and ultimately it worked out

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01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 13: for him because when push came to shove, Trump respected

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01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 13: him for pushing back more forcefully. But I'll say this,

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01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 13: I think you have an advantage here. If you look

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Speaker 13: at the five Eyes country, you are the only one

1821
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 13: with the center right leader. You're the only one uh

1822
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 13: with a leader who both comes from the private sector

1823
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 13: and who has center right political credentials. And so I

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01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 13: feel like he is uniquely positioned among these five countries

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01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 13: to have a conversation with Trump. Now I realized the

1826
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 13: first time they talked it was about hair.

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Speaker 2: It's just isn't the.

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01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 13: Best way to get started. But I think it's the

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01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 13: kind of relationship that can be built on in a

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01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 13: way that many other international leaders have not been able

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01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 13: to do.

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01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 2: All Right, So he needs to get some feist time

1833
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 2: with Trump, doesn't he.

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01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 13: No question about it. Yeah, here's the thing to remember

1835
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 13: about Trump. He is the first US president ever to

1836
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 13: not have served in prior political office and have never

1837
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 13: been in the military, which means he's the only US

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01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 13: president ever who did not prepare for being president by

1839
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 13: being part of a team. He's an individual actor. He

1840
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 13: talks to people one on one and very quickly comes

1841
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 13: to a conclusion about whether he respects them or not.

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01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 13: And I really do feel like there's a potential for

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01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 13: a very productive relationship here between t two business leaders

1844
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 13: turned politicos.

1845
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 2: Okay, so what's the beast we can expect though, because

1846
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 2: at the moment we seem to be sort of just

1847
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 2: copying coppying the base level of tariffs when we're not

1848
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 2: in a favored position, nor are we in an unfavored position,

1849
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 2: which is right in the middle of the pack. What

1850
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 2: could we expect as a best case scenario?

1851
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 13: Well, Trump, more than anything, whether you see it as

1852
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 13: a complimentary criticism, is an extremely transactional president. I think

1853
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 13: for this country's leaders to able to explain how he

1854
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 13: Trump and how his country benefits from the relationship is

1855
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 13: the best way to catch his is the best way

1856
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 13: to catch his attention. At this point, Trump is beginning

1857
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 13: to realize the downside of the tariffs. As I know

1858
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 13: you and many of your listeners know, He's pulled back

1859
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 13: on some of the tariffs on food products in order

1860
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 13: to try to address inflation in the in the United States.

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01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 13: And I think impressing upon him how a better relationship

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01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 13: on this front can we of help to him? That's

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01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 13: probably the best way.

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01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 2: Do we go really personal? Do we say, hey, listen,

1865
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 2: if you let our beef in at a like no tariff,

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01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 2: you're gonna have a fantastic burger from McDonald's.

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01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,560
Speaker 13: I would go almost that personal. Maybe you throw that,

1868
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 13: maybe you're throwing McDonald's at the end. Yeah, but you

1869
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 13: say you keep on this current trajectory and the people

1870
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,600
Speaker 13: who are angriest with you about giving up on the

1871
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 13: tariffs are going to be grateful for you for confronting inflation.

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01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 2: Had one Yeah, Dan, thank you so much. Is really

1873
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,679
Speaker 2: interesting stuff are really really interesting tips Professor Dan Schneer,

1874
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 2: political analyst at the University of California, twenty away from

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01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 2: seven to el Okay, So I'm going to get you

1876
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 2: across what's going on with high out of school. Having

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01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 2: you they were on the show yesterday, you will have

1878
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 2: caught it complaining about the moldy food. So it's not

1879
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 2: been a good afternoon for the principal who's done all

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01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 2: of the complaining because, as I told you earlier, Food

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01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 2: Safety New Zealand reckons the reason that the food was

1882
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 2: moldy yesterday was probably because it was delivered on Thursday

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01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 2: to the school, stored at the school without refrigeration, then

1884
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 2: accidentally research yesterday on Monday. So that's Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,

1885
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 2: four days without the fridge. The school Lunch Collective who

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01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 2: are the people who hand the food out and you

1887
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 2: know send this. It's a group of providers like Compass

1888
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 2: and stuff. The School Lunch Collected Collective say there were

1889
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 2: nine Cambro boxes of the savory Mints of potatoes meal

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01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 2: that was delivered to the Schoolata Community Campus on Thursday.

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01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 2: However record shows only eight were returned. One Cambro box

1892
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 2: has sat at ambient temperatures at the school since that date.

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01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 2: So when Peggy told.

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01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 11: Us this, when we did a quick check after we

1895
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,520
Speaker 11: shut it down, each of the caravans had some contaminated

1896
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 11: food in them.

1897
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 2: You do have to wonder if each of them did

1898
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 2: have contaminated food or if it's just the one. Also,

1899
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 2: when Peggy was on with us yesterday, a lot of

1900
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 2: people raised their eyebrows and then text us about this comment.

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01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 11: The starter are encouraged to eat the lunches as well

1902
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 11: with the students.

1903
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 2: Yes, so we checked with them in as your education.

1904
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 2: Is that the case and the answer was, of course no.

1905
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,560
Speaker 2: The program funding is for the provision of lunch to

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01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 2: stew udents. It does not cover the provision of meals

1907
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 2: for staff. Schools may decide that stuff can eat a

1908
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 2: surplus lunch for the purposes of encouraging uptake and reducing

1909
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 2: uneaten meals, but the encouragement not so much.

1910
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 11: So.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as I say, yesterday was a great day for

1912
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 2: Peggy because she was all over the news. Today not

1913
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 2: a great day for Peggy because she's not all over

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01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:20,640
Speaker 2: the news. Well, actually, to be fair, she is all

1915
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 2: over the news, but not in a good way. Eighteen

1916
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 2: away from seven we ever, it's to.

1917
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 3: Do with money. It matters to you.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duper c Allen and Mass

1919
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: Motor Vehicle Insurance. Your futures, give good hands, news talks

1920
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: that'd be by the way.

1921
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 2: Cast your mind back a little. Do you remember the

1922
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 2: controversial art installation that was in Nelson where the artist

1923
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 2: was a prominent MALDI artist. Later flag New Zealand flag

1924
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 2: on the ground and then ask people to walk all

1925
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 2: over the flag, and it got people really upset, and

1926
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 2: the lady went to where if it was and kept

1927
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 2: backing the flag up every single day to stop people

1928
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 2: from walking all over it. This art installation is back

1929
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 2: this time, though not a Nelson. It's now in Hastings,

1930
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 2: is at the art gallery there and my prediction is

1931
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 2: and already people are upset about it. And my prediction

1932
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 2: is if it didn't go down well with the people

1933
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 2: in Nelson, I can't imagine it's going to go down

1934
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 2: well with the good people of Hawk Space. So keep

1935
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 2: an eye on that. One fourteen away from seven Indo

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01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 2: Brady UK correspondence with us Hello Inda, Hello Heather, how

1937
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 2: are you right? I'm very well? Thank you. So it's

1938
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 2: going to be more judges for your juries.

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Speaker 5: Yes, so big big changes today to the criminal justice system. Basically,

1940
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 5: we've got a backlog of about eighty thousand cases. That

1941
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 5: is how bad the criminal justice system is creaking along.

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Speaker 5: I've spent three decades going to court cases all over

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Speaker 5: the UK and it never has ceased to stagger me

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Speaker 5: the inefficiency, the delays, just how slow everything is. And

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Speaker 5: I think the government have reached a point now that

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Speaker 5: they've realized if they don't do something about this, that

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Speaker 5: backlog will hit one hundred thousand cases by the end

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Speaker 5: of the decade. So David Lammy is Justice Secretary, he

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Speaker 5: is a lawyer by profession, Deputy Prime Minister as well,

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Speaker 5: and he will set out the plans for change today

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Speaker 5: and basically they're going to get rid of jury trials

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Speaker 5: in as many cases as they can. So if you're

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Speaker 5: charged with murder or rape or a very very serious crime,

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Speaker 5: you will absolutely go to a jury trial. But for

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Speaker 5: someone caught shoplifting or stealing a phone in the street,

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Speaker 5: they're trying to just basically have them put in front

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Speaker 5: of a magistrate or a judge and dealt with as

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Speaker 5: quickly as possible.

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Speaker 2: Yet, in how many cases for those lower leveled crimes

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Speaker 2: are they actually opting for juries.

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Speaker 5: Well, what we get is a lot of repeat offenders

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Speaker 5: who are very well advised by solicitors and lawyers who

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Speaker 5: will teach them how to play the system. And you're

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Speaker 5: seeing people who will be cut red handed overwhelming evidence

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Speaker 5: and they will delay and delay, they'll plead not guilty

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Speaker 5: and then the morning of a trial they'll plead guilty.

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Speaker 5: So what they're trying to do is basically get those

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Speaker 5: kind of low level offenders pushed through with just a

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Speaker 5: judge or a judge held by a couple of magistrates,

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Speaker 5: you know, just speeding up the whole process. But you're

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Speaker 5: right there is we get I think what they would

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Speaker 5: call a lot of repeat customers in the criminal justice system.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see what's going on here. Okay, Now the

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Speaker 2: junior doctors, they's called a strike just before Christmas, have they?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 5: And the government, the Health Secretary Wells Streeting keep an

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Speaker 5: eye on that name in twenty twenty six because he

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Speaker 5: wants to be Prime minister. The Health Secretary has described

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Speaker 5: these junior doctors as playing the greach. So a five

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Speaker 5: day strike called for December seventeenth. They will walk out.

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Speaker 5: Every single junior doctor in England and Wales that will

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Speaker 5: walk out on the seventeenth and they will not return

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Speaker 5: to working until seven am on the twenty second. Of

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Speaker 5: December and the health system is creaking right now. We've

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Speaker 5: had a really bad strain of flu the last few weeks,

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Speaker 5: a lot of respiratory illness this time of the year.

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Speaker 5: Junior doctors, there's no sympathy for them. This time around.

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Speaker 5: They got a monster pay right. He's August last year

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Speaker 5: after the labor came in and everyone said to Kleer

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Speaker 5: starmer right, you've given into them too soon. They will

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Speaker 5: come back for more. And sure enough that's what's happened.

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Speaker 2: Hey, how do you reckon? The security is going to

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Speaker 2: be in Germany at these Christmas markets, so.

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Speaker 5: They've started preparations for them, and obviously it's a huge

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Speaker 5: highlight in Europe the Christmas market tradition. Everyone would love

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Speaker 5: to go to Germany and have some of their beautiful

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Speaker 5: glue vine and some of their curry vorse sausages and

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Speaker 5: do some Christmas shopping in the cold and the lights,

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Speaker 5: and it's stunning. However, we've seen repeated attacks in recent years.

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Speaker 5: Town of Magdeburg last year a guy got into a

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Speaker 5: very high speed BMW. The attack lasted one minute and

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Speaker 5: in that time he killed six people and injured over

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Speaker 5: three hundred. So what they're doing this week in a

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Speaker 5: lot of German towns and cities, putting in extra ballards,

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Speaker 5: street furniture, more concrete barriers, basically fort knoxing up Christmas

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Speaker 5: markets around Germany. It's desperately sad that it's come to this,

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Speaker 5: but I think they're taking every precaution possible because you

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Speaker 5: just don't know where the next lunatic is going to strike.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fair enough. Hey, thank you very much. End

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Speaker 2: as always. Indo Brady our UK correspondence, by the way,

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Speaker 2: just on the ongoing coverage, and we kind of touched

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Speaker 2: on this earlier of the UK apparently telling us off

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Speaker 2: for our climate targets. The UK officials meeting with our

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Speaker 2: officials and they saying not doing enough for the climate.

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Speaker 2: BP has just shelved plans to build a major green

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Speaker 2: energy plant in the UK, which basically makes it harder

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Speaker 2: for the UK to reach its net zero target. And

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Speaker 2: the reason that BP has shelved it was because it

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Speaker 2: was the stuff up by the government in the UK

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Speaker 2: because basically what happened is BP had some land set

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Speaker 2: aside in Teaside for this particular green energy plant, but

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Speaker 2: right next door the government had emrked some land just

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Speaker 2: recently for an AI growth zone. The problem was the

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Speaker 2: new AI growth zone over the land that BP needed.

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Speaker 2: So BP's just pulled out. So before the before the

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Speaker 2: UK wants to tell us off about how we're doing

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Speaker 2: on the climate, might want to just turn around take

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Speaker 2: a look at itself. Nine away from seven it's the.

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Speaker 1: Heather too for see allan Drive full show podcast on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by Newstalk zeb.

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Speaker 2: Heather. I was out at Mount Monganui New Year's even

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Speaker 2: I saw the police commissioner out on patrol with the

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Speaker 2: other cops. He was in a stab proof best. He

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Speaker 2: wasn't interested in socializing. He was surveying the crowd. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure he'd have been very busy that night. All the best, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: this is coming. That's quite a bit. I'm quite impressed

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Speaker 2: with the level to which he's actually doing actual policing

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Speaker 2: when he's out there. Six away from seven. Do you

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Speaker 2: know how much money Mariah carry makes every year? Off

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Speaker 2: all I want for Christmas is you? Every year? This

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Speaker 2: is according to the Sun. They've done the estimates, They've

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Speaker 2: they've done all the numbers. Every year she makes somewhere

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Speaker 2: in the region of four and a half to seven

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Speaker 2: million dollars in royalties, so by twenty twenty three she

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Speaker 2: had earned one hundred and seventy two million dollars off

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Speaker 2: this absolute banger. And it's a wonderful way of getting

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Speaker 2: Ants to end the show with this. Not Snoopy's Christmas.

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Speaker 21: Yep, you've paid me into a corner the head. You

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Speaker 21: can completely outmoved me.

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Speaker 8: Well done.

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Speaker 21: All I Want for Christmas as performed by Mariah Carey.

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Speaker 7: Well, what do you?

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Speaker 2: What is the all you want for Christmas? Ants thinking

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Speaker 2: about it?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, that's a good question. I'm with Brad Olson. I

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Speaker 21: give the boring economy of self. Oh my gosh, what's

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Speaker 21: that money?

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Speaker 2: Money? He wants me?

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Speaker 8: Do you know what?

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Speaker 2: It's a variation of what I was going to say.

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Speaker 2: All I want for Christmas is a bloomin economic recovery

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Speaker 2: next year. Don't you how good would that be?

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Speaker 21: You're doing the good will to warm end thing. I

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Speaker 21: was just thinking of money for me. You're thinking about

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Speaker 21: the country.

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Speaker 2: That's no, that does equal money for me, though it

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Speaker 2: doesn't it like in a way we all benefit from it,

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Speaker 2: don't we, Because then the company could feel to pay

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Speaker 2: you more and Ants if there was an economic recovery.

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Speaker 2: The one person I would definitely pay more is you.

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Speaker 7: Oh thanks, Hither.

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Speaker 21: Likewise, you should definitely get paid.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. No one's going to pay you more, Laura,

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Speaker 2: not with that look on your face. You don't get

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Speaker 2: it anyway. How good is this to see you tomorrow?

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Speaker 12: What's so I was like.

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Speaker 8: About?

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Speaker 12: Nothing?

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Speaker 8: That's not?

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Speaker 2: Joe?

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