WEBVTT - "The American Dream"

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Export Beer Garden Studio.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the BYC podcast, And this week on the

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<v Speaker 2>BYC We're going to be going balls out, sifting through popcorn,

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<v Speaker 2>bald Eagles, and Donald Trump paraphernalia as the USA and

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<v Speaker 2>West Indies hosted Cricket World Cup gets underway in the

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<v Speaker 2>Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Paul Ford, the godfather of the Beise Brigade, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm joined by New Zealand's greatest sporting substack scribe before

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<v Speaker 2>year of all things sporting, Dylan Cleaver.

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<v Speaker 1>How the bloody hell are you, DC.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, get a little bit tired. I've already banked

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<v Speaker 3>a few hours in front of the screen watching the

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<v Speaker 3>World T twenty, quite enjoying it. To be honest, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if you dipped your toe into that water.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet I have.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was actually thinking, how I haven't had too

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<v Speaker 2>many late nights, But I wondered whether you were recording

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<v Speaker 2>the games and then getting up in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the night to watch them, or whether you were doing

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<v Speaker 2>something else. I wasn't quite sure because there haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>too many punishingly morning you know, sort of overnight games

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<v Speaker 2>to quench your thirst so far?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that fair?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? A couple of two thirty am starts. I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't buy into any of that nonsense. I watched

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<v Speaker 3>them very early the next morning, but I really enjoyed

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<v Speaker 3>the opener, which we'll talk about soon. But yeah, in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of overall vibes, I kind of feel almost that

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<v Speaker 3>it's been embraced more in the US venues than the

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<v Speaker 3>Caribbean so far, and maybe that's the result of the

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<v Speaker 3>kind of weather bomb that's surrounding the Caribbean at the moment,

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<v Speaker 3>Caribbean Caribbean. I don't know what's the correct way of

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<v Speaker 3>saying that, but yeah, what's your thoughts? So, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>so on the opening Salvos.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really obsessed with understanding what America actually thinks about

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<v Speaker 2>the game, and are people talking about this in pubs

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, amongst families, amongst friends that don't have

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<v Speaker 2>an Indian mate. And I suspect that the answer is

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<v Speaker 2>probably not. I don't think that there's been massive cut through.

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<v Speaker 2>I did see that Cam Williamson had his face projected

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<v Speaker 2>onto a building I think it was the Rockefeller Center

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of New York. So I'm sure these

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<v Speaker 2>little glimpses of cricket if you're looking out for them,

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<v Speaker 2>But just in the absolute male strom that is American

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<v Speaker 2>society and popular culture, I suspect that cricket is not

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<v Speaker 2>really getting a look in. And I imagine it's quite

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<v Speaker 2>a weird sensation for a lot of the players, even

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<v Speaker 2>for the fans, and obviously all the entourage of media

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<v Speaker 2>and so on going around the place and no one

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<v Speaker 2>really knowing who the hell they are or what they're

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<v Speaker 2>there to do. I can imagine being in customs of

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<v Speaker 2>people are like, you're here to do what, and they

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<v Speaker 2>just wouldn't understand what the hell was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm quite intrigued about that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's been lots of stories about this tournament being the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of this potentially could be the cut through of

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<v Speaker 2>the game into America. But the more and more that

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<v Speaker 2>I delve into it, it does very much seem like

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<v Speaker 2>it is extremely focused on the Indian Pakistani diaspora that

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<v Speaker 2>has has made its home in the United States, and.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the least if that is all it does.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there anything necessarily wrong with that? I mean, there

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about the aspera of millions of Indians and

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<v Speaker 3>Pakistanis and Bengali's. And I saw the ground in Dallas

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<v Speaker 3>the other day was packed out because there is a

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<v Speaker 3>a Nepalese population of something like twenty thousand in Dallas alone,

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<v Speaker 3>and half of them couldn't get into the ground. So

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if that is the very least it's doing,

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<v Speaker 3>it's still doing something, if you know, if you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, but I do. I hopefully they drag

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<v Speaker 3>a few others along with them, I guess, is what

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<v Speaker 3>they're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, look, I think that's exactly right. And let's

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<v Speaker 2>be right, let's you know, not beat around the bush

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<v Speaker 2>on this. The economics of well, sorry, the Cricket World

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<v Speaker 2>Cup is drawn by economics, the economics of the India

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<v Speaker 2>despera driving the interest in the game in America, selling

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<v Speaker 2>out stadiums, TV rights, all of that kind of stuff. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got no qualms whatsoever. I'm more intrigued about how

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<v Speaker 2>how it intersect with American popular culture. Does it even

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<v Speaker 2>get a looking And I guess you know, one way

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<v Speaker 2>that it might get onto Sports Center and programs like

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<v Speaker 2>that is when you have someone that you've never heard

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<v Speaker 2>of comes onto the scene and plays a swash buckling

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<v Speaker 2>innings to see one team that you've never heard of,

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<v Speaker 2>or a bunch of players you've never heard of, take

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<v Speaker 2>down another team that you've never heard of, and we

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<v Speaker 2>saw that this.

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<v Speaker 1>Week with Aaron Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron Jones ninety four not out and one of the

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely iconic innings and a great way to get the

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<v Speaker 2>tournament underway.

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<v Speaker 3>And born in Queens, New York, admittedly raised for the

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<v Speaker 3>most part of his life in Barbados, where he was

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<v Speaker 3>mates with, among others, Shay Hope, Joffra Archer and Jason Holder.

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<v Speaker 3>So this incredible nursery I guess of cricket and Barbados,

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<v Speaker 3>but he was New York born, which kind of feels important.

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<v Speaker 3>The opener as well, who didn't get any runs, Stephen someone.

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<v Speaker 3>There was three US born players in that side, which

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<v Speaker 3>is certainly more than you've got when you look at

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<v Speaker 3>the likes of Oman who almost entirely Pakistani or Gujerati immigrants.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I had a blast watching that game, just

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<v Speaker 3>to re quickly recap at USA b Canada by seven

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<v Speaker 3>wickets with fourteen balls remaining, chasing down one nine four

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<v Speaker 3>for five, scoring one nine seven for three. As you

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned Aaron Jones ninety four not out ten six is

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<v Speaker 3>just forty balls. He was incredible. He had one of

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<v Speaker 3>five balls and the commentators were kind of talking about

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<v Speaker 3>what poor form he had brought into this match, four

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<v Speaker 3>single figure scores in his last five innings and how

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<v Speaker 3>he really needed some runs, and then all of a

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<v Speaker 3>sudden went everywhere. He was batting with a South African

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<v Speaker 3>born player called Andress Goo, I think is how you

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<v Speaker 3>say it. They had a partnership something like one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and thirty one one hundred and thirty one run partnership.

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<v Speaker 3>Goo scored sixty forty six. It was spectacular. At one

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<v Speaker 3>stage the required run rate was more than twelve and over,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the unfortunate Jeremy Gordon bowled one of the

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<v Speaker 3>overs for the ages. And if I can just take

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<v Speaker 3>you through it, it started with a wide, then Goo hit

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<v Speaker 3>a six, then he hit a four, then there was

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<v Speaker 3>another why. Then there was a no ball where Goo

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<v Speaker 3>was caught on the boundary. Then there was a no

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<v Speaker 3>ball with one run, and then old what's his what's

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<v Speaker 3>his pants? Jones came down the other end had a six,

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<v Speaker 3>Then there was another why. Then there was a one,

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<v Speaker 3>and there was only the only reason it was a

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<v Speaker 3>one was a guy did a miracle back back in

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<v Speaker 3>on the boundary, and then there was a six, and

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<v Speaker 3>then there was a four. It was eleven balls of carnage,

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<v Speaker 3>thirty three runs, and the game was pretty much decided

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<v Speaker 3>at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, unbelievable. Yeah, I mean, I think Jones and Gets

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<v Speaker 2>put one hundred and thirty one and fifty eight balls,

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<v Speaker 2>so they were and they were in the strike I've

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<v Speaker 2>got to say, though, you look at his career record.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've looked at at Aaron Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>He has got a terrible record.

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<v Speaker 2>So the contoada has been quite right and quite within

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<v Speaker 2>their rights to have a crack at him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a career strike round in ten twenty of

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<v Speaker 1>about one hundred and four. He's only ever hit.

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<v Speaker 2>He hits won six every two innings on average, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's never scored more than fifty before.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, that's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>His highest score was fifty before coming into this fixture,

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<v Speaker 2>and now he's become an absolute legend of the game.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, now, g perhaps he's like Reggie Jackson. Perhaps

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<v Speaker 3>he's a big game player. Mister October, that used tocore

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<v Speaker 3>Reggie Jackson because he did nothing during the entire season

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<v Speaker 3>get to the playoffs start of hitting home runs. It's

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron Jones, mister mister June.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for the really really cool way to start the

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<v Speaker 2>to start the tournament and as you said, a decent cut.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was only six thousand, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>quite a lively six thousand people at that game. The

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<v Speaker 2>next game up was West and he's beating Papa New

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<v Speaker 2>Guinea by five wickets with six boards, remaining a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a squeaky bum game really for the West Indies,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess the thing that caught my eye was

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<v Speaker 2>that it was described as being played on a tricky

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<v Speaker 2>two pace track, which is ominous for New Zealand given

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<v Speaker 2>the set to play on that same track in Guyana.

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<v Speaker 2>As you said, a terrible crowd and really the Western

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<v Speaker 2>these blushes were saved by Roston Chase who got forty

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<v Speaker 2>two off twenty seven when they were ninety seven for

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<v Speaker 2>five after sixteen chasing one thirty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Did anything catch your eye on that one dcent?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just googling Papa New Guinea. Now, not all

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<v Speaker 3>of the player's birthplaces are listed, but as far as

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<v Speaker 3>I can make out, they've got something New Zealands certainly

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<v Speaker 3>can't claim, and that is all of their players are

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<v Speaker 3>locally born, wow and raised. And I was actually quite impressed,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I thought they did well. Look, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know actually when I say locally raised, maybe they go

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<v Speaker 3>to Australia and play cricket in North Queensland or Brisbane

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever and then are available for Papua New Guinea.

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<v Speaker 3>But they were certainly Papa New Guineans, and yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>thought they played pretty well and they could have won

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<v Speaker 3>that game.

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<v Speaker 1>Did I see that Papua New guineas coached by to

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<v Speaker 1>Tenda Taiboo? Is that correct? I think that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I saw, But it might be wrong. That

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<v Speaker 1>might be wrong. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, a close one for the West Indies, who have

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<v Speaker 2>been called out by US and others as being a

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a smoky chance of the tournament. But you

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<v Speaker 2>do get the sense that they'll sort of build into

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<v Speaker 2>their power game as they get their alchemy going and

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<v Speaker 2>their team been pulled back together specifically for the tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched a bit of Namibia versus Oman, who they

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<v Speaker 2>beat in a super over one hundred and nine all

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<v Speaker 2>out versus one hundred and nine for six And just

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<v Speaker 2>another reminder that David Visa, the man born in hal Teng,

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<v Speaker 2>is an absolute beast with bat and ball. For Namibia,

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<v Speaker 2>he was absolutely sensational three for twenty eight and then

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<v Speaker 2>walloped thirteen runs off four balls in the super over

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And he looks a bit like Dave Grohl.

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<v Speaker 2>He looks like he kind of doesn't really want to

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<v Speaker 2>be there, and then the interview after the match and

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<v Speaker 2>he seems like the nicest bloke in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, I watched the Sisters in Bridge Down, Barbados

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<v Speaker 3>and again the wicket looked really trickily, you looked tricky

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<v Speaker 3>to bed on and it was a low scoring thriller.

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<v Speaker 3>I think is the cliche you use at times like

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<v Speaker 3>this And then suddenly you get to super over and

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<v Speaker 3>it's twenty one off it and so Omaran didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>a chance of chasing that down. I think there were

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<v Speaker 3>after five balls they were one for four and the

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<v Speaker 3>super over so always tricky to get that required eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>off the final ball. Need a lot of things to

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<v Speaker 3>go your way, really, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Again that guy, you need the guy for Canada to

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<v Speaker 1>be bowling.

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<v Speaker 3>That's one way did right And again I looked up

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<v Speaker 3>birth places for Oman and that's where I discovered that

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<v Speaker 3>they're all Pakistani or Indian. So yeah, obviously, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>they're not too far apart across the Gulf of Arabia,

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<v Speaker 3>is it. So obviously it's a pretty popular landing spot

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<v Speaker 3>for Pakistani immigrants.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, someone's got to build the spectacular buildings and they

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<v Speaker 2>get rich and die trying, I think is the phrase.

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<v Speaker 2>So Africa beat Sri Lanka by six wickets with twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two balls rauning.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a bit of a game. I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have some views on this pitch which I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was.

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<v Speaker 2>The Guardian described it as unscrupulous, which obviously means to

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<v Speaker 2>look that up, but it means unfair in that South

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<v Speaker 2>Africa played within there, within their means and they were

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<v Speaker 2>a bit nervous. I'm sure you've got some thoughts. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>keen to hear them, but we should just call out

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<v Speaker 2>on Rick Nurtzier four for not very many seven maybe

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<v Speaker 2>something something preposterous like that. And this new bloke that

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen, but apparently he was a superstar in

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<v Speaker 2>the South African t twenty helping the sun rises Eastern

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<v Speaker 2>Cape magnificently named Ott Neil Bartman not a Simpsons I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know there's a Simpsons connection there somewhere, but surely

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<v Speaker 2>if it's a surname, the parents didn't choose it.

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<v Speaker 1>And quite an interesting character. I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>He was eligible and asked to be to move sort

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<v Speaker 2>of from his country and village school to go to

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<v Speaker 2>those one of those posh schools in place water Wall

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<v Speaker 2>in South Africa. His mum said no, so he stayed

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<v Speaker 2>at his local village school, very academic and then as

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like a bit of a breakthrough star as

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<v Speaker 2>to be finally led off as a mother's apron strengthen

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<v Speaker 2>into the real world. He was sensational eighteen wickets at

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<v Speaker 2>eleven point eight in that South African Tea twenty comp

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<v Speaker 2>and it runs for over of.

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<v Speaker 1>Less than seven. He looks good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, look, I don't want to cheapen what he did

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<v Speaker 3>because it is amazing and it's a great story. But

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<v Speaker 3>anyone could look good bowling on that wicket. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>such a shame because that was the game taken to

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<v Speaker 3>New York. They built this incredible modular stadium out of

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<v Speaker 3>a green park at Isahower Park, which is sort of

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<v Speaker 3>out west of sorry east of Queens like you're heading

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<v Speaker 3>right out into the Long Island Sound there, and amazing

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<v Speaker 3>job of doing it. But what they relied on was

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<v Speaker 3>dropping wickets that were built in Adelaide, then put on

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<v Speaker 3>boats and shipped over to Savannah, Georgia, then track down

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<v Speaker 3>to Florida to grow during the winter, and then tracked

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<v Speaker 3>up to New York and dropped in. Unfortunately, everything about

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<v Speaker 3>this venue relies on those wickets, which were created by

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<v Speaker 3>the guy from Adelaide Oval, the guy I think his

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<v Speaker 3>name's Damien Hoff. And it was unfortunately next to unplayable.

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<v Speaker 3>And I know the popular thing to think to say

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<v Speaker 3>during these sort of things is, oh, well, was it

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<v Speaker 3>really that bad? Was it that unplayable or was it

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<v Speaker 3>just poor batting? Nah? That was that was tough. It

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<v Speaker 3>was really hard work. And on one hand, I'm actually

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<v Speaker 3>surprised that it was Hoff that was allowed to do it,

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<v Speaker 3>because he's the guy that prepared the drop on wicket

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<v Speaker 3>where India all out for thirty something at the Adelaide Oval.

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<v Speaker 3>Some surprised the BC.

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<v Speaker 1>Time doing this one let him share it, But.

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<v Speaker 3>I really wanted this game to work. I thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was the first of these well t twenty games between

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<v Speaker 3>two test playing nations. I wanted it to capture some imagination,

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<v Speaker 3>but it said it was slightly fascal unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's an its ominous for the rest of the tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of faith being put in that New

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<v Speaker 2>York picture. It is preposterous really when you think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the architecture, the scale of the vision to

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<v Speaker 2>do what they've done, and incredible what has been done.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, logistically and unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>But also completely unproven and an enormous risk, particularly when

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<v Speaker 2>you think about I think some of the tickets for

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<v Speaker 2>the English in India Pakistan game are selling for five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand US dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know you're looking at that game starting. Not

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<v Speaker 2>only is it a tricky picture, but I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 2>a local time that game starts at ten thirty or

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<v Speaker 2>eleven o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>In the morning. Yeah, it could be maybe they could

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<v Speaker 1>get to play twice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it does seem like, well, I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>feeling of trepidation about it as you. And it does

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<v Speaker 2>sound like your description of that picture is something a

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<v Speaker 2>bit harsher than unscrupulous DC.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm played there.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple more games, just very quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Afghanistan absolutely annihilated Uganda by one hundred and twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>run When we can have a touch on the Afghanis

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<v Speaker 2>in a little bit when we preview that New Zealand game,

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<v Speaker 2>but this was an absolute blitzkrig And Faruki was the man.

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<v Speaker 2>He took five wickets, his first time he's taken five wickets.

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<v Speaker 2>And for Uganda, they looked incredibly.

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<v Speaker 3>It looked like a mino.

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<v Speaker 2>Confused when they were batting. They were sixty eight all out.

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<v Speaker 2>But they do have some of the best names, including

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<v Speaker 2>their fast bowl of my favorite cosmos kyah Water, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think is just one of the great names in

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<v Speaker 2>this World Cup. But yeah, what is it, fifty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>sixty eight whatever they got six years.

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<v Speaker 3>That was that they played like a genuine minnow. That

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<v Speaker 3>was the first time where you looked at it and went, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>some teams are going to get some severe hidings here.

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<v Speaker 3>They made Afghanistan look like well, actually shouldn't say that

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<v Speaker 3>because New Zealand And due to play them, but Afghanistan

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<v Speaker 3>looked like it was Usta playing New Zealand in the

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<v Speaker 3>nineties early nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>And then overnight Scotland visus England was washed out.

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<v Speaker 2>Scotland absolutely going hammer in ninety for nine lots of

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<v Speaker 2>rain about and yeah, unfortunate, another sort of ominous sign

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<v Speaker 2>for looking at the weather forecast, which we get into

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<v Speaker 2>in a sec And the Netherlands beaten Nepal with Takapuna's

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<v Speaker 2>finest max O Dowd anchoring the Netherlands chase as they

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<v Speaker 2>mowed down one hundred and six.

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<v Speaker 1>He was very calm, very composed and took them through.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they had seven balls to spare, eight balls

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<v Speaker 1>to spare or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Great atmosphere there really good right schoolcards DC. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>ground full of Nepalese and actually was a massive day

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<v Speaker 3>for the New Zealand contingent. Tim Pringle took three for twenty,

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<v Speaker 3>Logan van Beek took three for Raden and Maxo Dowd

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<v Speaker 3>got them home, as you said, with an unbeaten half century.

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<v Speaker 3>The Dutch cracked me up. Actually, I read an interview

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<v Speaker 3>with Scott Edwards earlier in this tournament. Remember the confidence

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<v Speaker 3>they took into the World Cup, you know, and Scott

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<v Speaker 3>is added again saying when we're at our best. No

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<v Speaker 3>one can beat us. We're a meta anyone that's that's cool,

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<v Speaker 3>Good on you, good luck.

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<v Speaker 2>And frankly, you know Nepole, but I've got some tricky

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<v Speaker 2>backers in there. There could have been a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a banana skin game. So good to see the

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<v Speaker 2>Netherlands seize their opportunity. And you know, they should be

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<v Speaker 2>a cut above, and it's good to see that they've

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<v Speaker 2>proved that, at least in the opening game.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think Nepole had their best player. Who was

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<v Speaker 3>I think acquidted of rape charges recently, Lama Chane I

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<v Speaker 3>think his name is, but he still didn't get a

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<v Speaker 3>visa to get into the United States, which sounds probably

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<v Speaker 3>fair enough. So I don't think they are as strong

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<v Speaker 3>as they usually are.

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<v Speaker 2>Good point, Yeah, definitely, they're definitely their main man for sure. Hey, DCIC,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll take a break, we'll come back. We'll preview New

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<v Speaker 2>Zealand versus the Banana Skin Game Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the b y C.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Paul fordam Dylan Clever here during the fat and

0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:03.000
<v Speaker 2>New Zealand finally going to get underway in a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of days. DC Game versus Afghanistan the opening game for

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<v Speaker 2>the Black Caps in the Cricket World Cup. They're playing

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<v Speaker 2>at Providence. I had a quick look the last four

0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.399
<v Speaker 2>winning scores at Providence in Georgetown, Guyana one hundred and

0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.240
<v Speaker 2>eighty three versus Uganda one hundred and thirty seven versus

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<v Speaker 2>pap in New Guinea one hundred and fifty five and

0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.120
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and sixty four. So the days of the

0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.840
<v Speaker 2>IPL two hundred and fifty plus scores are absolute dreamland.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen a couple of scam hungering headlines. My favorite

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<v Speaker 2>was this one Paul rival Afghanistan sends warning to black

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<v Speaker 2>Cats with big opening win over Uganda. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>that a win over the cricket cranes, which is what

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<v Speaker 2>Uganda are called, means a hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Something that may be factored in here is New Zealand's flights.

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<v Speaker 2>But you'd hope that they'd be okay having traveled I

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<v Speaker 2>think Auckland, San Francisco, Houston, Georgetown, which I think is

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<v Speaker 2>about thirty four thirty five hours, but they'd had pretty

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<v Speaker 2>close to a week, I think, to acclimatize and get

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<v Speaker 2>over that get over that jet lag.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you see that one shaping up decent.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm a little bit worried about this. All the

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<v Speaker 3>narrative or the kind of rhetoric coming out of the

0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:09.520
<v Speaker 3>New Zealand camp has been remarkably negative. He had sort

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<v Speaker 3>of talking about jet lag and weather bombs and sat

0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.440
<v Speaker 3>and there talking about what a chaotic start it's been

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<v Speaker 3>and how distorted the start of the tournament has been.

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<v Speaker 3>They've opted for no warm up games because the team

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<v Speaker 3>was coming in three different ways, because they were coming

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<v Speaker 3>from different parts of the parts of the world. It

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<v Speaker 3>look it actually sounded like a little bit of a shambles.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't heard anyone sort of sitting there over there

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<v Speaker 3>going yeah, we're in great shape, can't wait to get

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<v Speaker 3>stuck into it. We've had some amazing together. Yeah, we've

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<v Speaker 3>had some amazing net sessions. It doesn't sound like you

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<v Speaker 3>can bere to get in the nets because of the weather.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like you. I did a bit of digging on

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<v Speaker 3>this Providence ground. I looked at the twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 3>Caribbean Premier League stats Sexy and they were that's where

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<v Speaker 3>the majority of the games were played. And it's a

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<v Speaker 3>decent pitch. It's like one hundred and sixty three average,

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<v Speaker 3>which is kind of above where most of the grounds

0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.919
<v Speaker 3>in the Caribbean are at the moment, and that average

0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:07.800
<v Speaker 3>would have been as high as one hundred and ninety

0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:11.800
<v Speaker 3>except in the final was a complete blowout where Trinidad Trinbago, sorry,

0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:16.480
<v Speaker 3>we're out for ninety four. You don't. There's no discernible

0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:21.119
<v Speaker 3>advantage to batting first or second. It's your bat first.

0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:23.360
<v Speaker 3>You win four out of the nine games, five out

0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:25.920
<v Speaker 3>of the nine games if you're batted second. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was. It seemed like kind of mid one sixties

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<v Speaker 3>was a decent total, which to me feels like what

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<v Speaker 3>a t twenty game with a reasonably even contest between

0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:41.040
<v Speaker 3>bat and ball should look like. It should be about

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<v Speaker 3>kind of one seventy. So it might not be quite

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<v Speaker 3>as slow and as turgid as some of the cricket

0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:51.199
<v Speaker 3>and the Caribbean has been over the last ten years,

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<v Speaker 3>just because of the low slow track. So it might

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<v Speaker 3>suit New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds well, that sounds promising. I'll tell you something

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't sound promising is that Guyana, which is of

0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:07.000
<v Speaker 2>course quite an unusual country. I think when we think

0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:09.560
<v Speaker 2>of the western these we always think of these beautiful

0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:13.320
<v Speaker 2>tropical islands, and of course that the Guyana's on the

0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:17.240
<v Speaker 2>South American continent. It's the only English speaking on that continent.

0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:19.280
<v Speaker 2>It's basically in a maybe not a civil war, but

0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:22.280
<v Speaker 2>certainly a political battle with Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 1>I think over some oil.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a vein of the country that's contested in these

0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:29.160
<v Speaker 2>is a bit of a drama around that. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>also known for its tropical rainforests. Book site Gold and Timber.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's focus on the tropical rainforest because I can

0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:40.040
<v Speaker 2>tell you over the next few days it has sensational

0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:46.160
<v Speaker 2>conditions for growing a rainforest. It's the weather conditions from

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday thirty one showers, Friday thirty one thunderstorms and heavy showers,

0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:56.240
<v Speaker 2>and Saturday thirty one dull and dreary with showers, ninety

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<v Speaker 2>three percent chance of rain. So it is looking but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sort of whenever we talk about this, they

0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:05.600
<v Speaker 2>pretty much always seem to get a game in. But

0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:08.000
<v Speaker 2>there's definitely going to be some rain about and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know whether that's helpful or a hindrance to the

0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:11.040
<v Speaker 2>New Zealand team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well it's a lottery, isn't it. I guess if

0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:18.280
<v Speaker 3>you know beforehand, it can play into your decision at

0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:21.600
<v Speaker 3>the toss. Most teams liked about second when there's rain about,

0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:23.879
<v Speaker 3>so you know what the Duckworth Lewis equation is, but

0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:26.320
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't always work that way. You go in as

0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:30.960
<v Speaker 3>a fascinating country. It's such an outlier in world cricket

0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:34.720
<v Speaker 3>and I've always been fascinated about it ever since. I

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<v Speaker 3>think I've read clave Lloyd's autobiography when I was about

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<v Speaker 3>twelve or thirteen, and to me it sounded quite idyllic.

0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:46.760
<v Speaker 3>Georgetown Goan sounded quite idlic But I've subsequently talked to

0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:48.480
<v Speaker 3>plenty of people who've been there and it's far from

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<v Speaker 3>my delic I think you have to be careful at night.

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<v Speaker 3>They definitely tell you don't go out in ones. Make

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<v Speaker 3>sure there's a group of you when you go out.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've piled and it's also a very curious place

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<v Speaker 3>in the Caribbean milieu in that it produces incredible batters

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:13.520
<v Speaker 3>and virtually no fast bowlers at all. But I've compiled

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<v Speaker 3>again and he's all time eleven and I've had to

0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:22.040
<v Speaker 3>leave out some incredible batters. But I'm opening with Roy

0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Fredericks and Ramna Esh Sawan, Shivneren Chanderpaul's elevated to number three,

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Basil Butcher's number four, Alvin Keller trans number five. Clyde

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 3>Lord is captaining the team at number six rowand can I,

0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:38.359
<v Speaker 3>the roan can I will be the best ever number seven.

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:41.080
<v Speaker 3>He also has to wicket keep because they weren't rich

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<v Speaker 3>in wicket keepers. Carl Hooper I've got coming him at

0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:48.399
<v Speaker 3>eight and he's a genuine all rounder in this team

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:51.119
<v Speaker 3>ahead of Lance Gibbs who was the first bowl of

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 3>take three hundred Test wickets. Shama Joseph on very little evidence,

0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:58.719
<v Speaker 3>is already in the team at number ten, and Colin Croft,

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<v Speaker 3>no best known in New Zealand for the strange angle

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<v Speaker 3>of his run up, is batting number eleven. I couldn't

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 3>find a place for Roger Harper or Devendra Bishu, Himron

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:16.280
<v Speaker 3>hit Meyer and several other batters. Actually, so it's a

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<v Speaker 3>it's powerful all time eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you what, I'm glad that Tjenerine Chanderpaul

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<v Speaker 2>did not make your team. I'm happy with that. A

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<v Speaker 2>couple of bits and pieces for you. I never knew

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:33.320
<v Speaker 2>that Larance Gibbs was Clive Lloyd cousin, first cousin. So yeah,

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 2>thick as thieves. Obviously a real fraternity amongst the Guyanese

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 2>players as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Besil Butcher.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I don't know a hell of a lot about him,

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<v Speaker 2>but he was an amazing player back in the in

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<v Speaker 2>the fifties with your mate Can I and then Can

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<v Speaker 2>I Is that what he said?

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<v Speaker 1>And another guy called Joe Solomon. Yeah, yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>They they were they all worked together on this sugar

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<v Speaker 2>plantation in Port Morant, and there was a guy called

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<v Speaker 2>Clyde Walcott.

0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:07.439
<v Speaker 1>A legendary batner from Barbados.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, one of the three ws who.

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Looked after them, and so he was employed. How good

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:16.160
<v Speaker 1>is this? So Clyde Walcott was employed by the local

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:20.399
<v Speaker 1>Sugar Producers Association to be the cricket organizer for the

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:23.679
<v Speaker 1>Port Morant sugar Plantation cricket team.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was amazing at the guys developed their own

0:25:27.960 --> 0:25:31.359
<v Speaker 2>technique and turn into these pridigious talents. So, yeah, a

0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 2>really awesome story. And yeah, I guess where you get

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:38.199
<v Speaker 2>to around this is it's incredible that the westerns is

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 2>just this train smashed together of lots of these extraordinary countries,

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:45.400
<v Speaker 2>each of which have their own strengths and weaknesses and

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:46.680
<v Speaker 2>could probably and.

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Have historically been teams in and of their own right.

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<v Speaker 2>And you wonder whether it's going to go back to

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<v Speaker 2>that as Western East Cricket teams to looks like it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to fragment.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, and what.

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<v Speaker 2>About this new Zealand team DC, who is actually going

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<v Speaker 2>to play? Have you got an eleven for us? And

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<v Speaker 2>have you got a I don't know a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm conscious with Stevin Conway coming back here with thumb injury,

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Fan Allen's got a back injury. Glen Phillips didn't play

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 2>in the IPL. Ken Williamston only played a couple. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got nine guys that have been in the pressure cooker

0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:18.359
<v Speaker 2>of the IPL, but they've got, as I mentioned, thirty

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<v Speaker 2>to forty hours of travel, a big gap before the

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 2>first game.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a few things to sort out that we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>sorted out.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems the leaning heavily on experience. It's not a

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<v Speaker 3>I think I mentioned this last week when we had

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<v Speaker 3>a soft relaunch, but it's not a team that fills

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 3>me with a huge amount of anticipation or excitement. Actually,

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:41.199
<v Speaker 3>I presume they will open with Allan and I think

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:44.120
<v Speaker 3>Conway has to because he's unless they have a real

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 3>voulta Facha and decide that Glen Phillips is in fact

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 3>a wiki keeper non lost, and I think Conway has

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<v Speaker 3>to wicked keep. Williamson clearly has to play, he has

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 3>to captain, so he's got to be in the top three.

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 3>So there, so Alan has to do a lot of

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:00.719
<v Speaker 3>heavy lifting in that top three to get the scoring

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 3>rate after a stroke rade after a decent clip. I

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 3>think Mitchell probably bats four ahead of Chapman, and then

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 3>they would have Phillips at five, and then I'm just

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 3>completely confused. I've gone for bracewooll Nesham, Santana, Sody, Ferguson Bolt.

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<v Speaker 3>But you can make an argument that Chapman could be

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<v Speaker 3>in there. You can make an argument that Henry should

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 3>be in there. You can make it certainly make an

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 3>argument that Sody shouldn't be in there. Revendra doesn't get

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.880
<v Speaker 3>a looking for me, but you know, personally I would

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 3>have him in there, but I don't know how you

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 3>can play him in the eleven with the way they

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:43.199
<v Speaker 3>configure that squad. It's a real it's a bit of

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 3>a dog's Breakfast. For me. To be honest, I have

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 3>not really settled. I picked that eleven, but I'm really

0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:51.679
<v Speaker 3>unsettled about it, and you can talk me out of

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:52.920
<v Speaker 3>it any which way you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look, I've got to get I feel like Revenger

0:27:58.040 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 2>and Chapman are kind of battling for the same position,

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 2>so I've got them in a in a duel to

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<v Speaker 2>the death at that number six, and I'm going to

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:08.160
<v Speaker 2>go for I would pick Revenger. I think they'll pick Chapman.

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 2>I think Chapman's got a He's been good over the

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 2>last twelve months for New Zealand so and did some

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.640
<v Speaker 2>good things in Pakistan, so fair enough. I'm not sort

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 2>of dying on a hell over that. Then I'm going

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Nishan or Bracewell, and I'm going to pick Bracefel because

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 2>I think I just I'm reading the tea leaps from

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:28.479
<v Speaker 2>from Gary stead Stain, there's a lock for me. I

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 2>think that they will pick Saudi. I'm not picking Sody

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not picking Henry, and then it's Ferguson and

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Bolt for me.

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 1>So okay, yeah, but yeah, just it does feel like

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 1>New Zealand does have a very interchangeable team.

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 3>So when I went through and did my deafinits, that's

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 3>what I always do. First, I put in the ones

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 3>that will definitely there's no way they're going to miss out,

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 3>and I had Alan Komway Williamson and again it's not

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 3>a top three I particularly like, but just because of

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 3>the situation with the wicked keeper, it has to be that.

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 3>So had those three and then I went down to

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 3>Santana at a was as my next definite, and then

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 3>ferguson a Bolt at ten and eleven, so they were

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 3>I had six definites. The rest that's just throwing stuff

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 3>in the air and depending on which way it lands,

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:16.719
<v Speaker 1>And frankly it should be good enough. That's the other

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>thing as well.

0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not like it's not like we're not

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>using between guys that are shockingly bad.

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>It's actually an embarrassment of strength and away.

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think I think the one thing that

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 2>you would say that New Zealand is potentially missing is

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 2>just that absolutely blockbusting slogathon at the top. And yeah,

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 2>as you say, a lot of pressure on Allen.

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 3>It's non embarrassment of strike great strength at the top

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I think that is the Achilles heel of this team.

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 3>And you wonder when is it time to give Robinson

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 3>a fair crack at it or something like that, But

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 3>then a very good player has to miss out.

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 2>So and but Afghanistan, I guess a lot of pressure

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 2>on there, a lot of pressure, a lot of stock

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 2>put in there, a bit like Pakistani really on their openers, right,

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Ibrahim Zadran Raman la Gerbars.

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean they put one hundred and fifty four against Uganda.

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't mean.

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Anything, but you know that they are going to be

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 2>super hyper magnificently aggressive.

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>They're great to watch.

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 2>They go absolutely balls to the wall in terms of

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 2>that opening partnership. And then it's all about the old

0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 2>dogs Rashid Khan and navinol Hark generally with the ball,

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 2>although as mentioned earlier, fuzzle Hart Faruki taking five to

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 2>nine against Uganda probably about a ninety percent discount on that,

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 2>but that feels like their main weapons.

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 3>Muji is Mujib playing he's I always seem to have

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 3>this little mild panic and anxiety about coming up against

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 3>Afghaniststan spinners. But unless I'm mistake, in New Zealand always

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:51.480
<v Speaker 3>does well again against him, don't they. I don't. I

0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 3>don't think they've tripped us up like they have other teams.

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's right, and I think maybe you're

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 2>hearing some of that sort of weariness. You know, you

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't say that as as you said, you know, New

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Zealand are hardly going into this game supremely confident. So yeah,

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 2>I think they'll be doing there. They'll be doing their

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 2>homework as well. Afghanistan. You know their coach Jonathan Trump

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.040
<v Speaker 2>obviously a smart fellow. And they've also got the guy

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 2>that you may have heard of, Dwayne Bravo, who was

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 2>their bowling advisor. Obviously a bit of a hometown advantage

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 2>there for him, although not so sure how much help

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 2>he'll be providing to the spinners. But yes, hey we

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 2>should grab a quick break and then DC, I think

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 2>you've got a quiz for us and I'll bring us

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<v Speaker 2>back with a bit of cricket violence. Welcome back to

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the by C and DC, I understand you've got a

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 2>quiz question for us over between Guyana and New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I just wanted to stretch this Guyanese theme as

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<v Speaker 3>far as I possibly could, and look, if you can

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<v Speaker 3>name the test cricketer from Guyana who died in Hamilton,

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 3>New Zealand two years ago, the first person that pops

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<v Speaker 3>out into our in box, and Paul will give the

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 3>details to that and just a bit we'll get a

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 3>shout out next week and an optional Jason Hoyt Stripper

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 3>Gram at your workplace. So you choose. You either get

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.480
<v Speaker 3>a shout out on the BYC or hoiti in for

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 3>a stripper Gram. We have to check his available obviously,

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, can you name the test cricketer from Guyana

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<v Speaker 3>who died in Hamilton, New Zealand in twenty twenty two?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know the answer? Paul?

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I think I actually do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to spoil it, and you know I

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<v Speaker 2>definitely want someone to win a Jason Hoyt Stripper Gram.

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 2>We may have to kidnap him sort of like scg

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 2>McGill and get him to that stripper Gram destination, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's a cable. We can do that for the team.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, flick us an email to BYC at Basebrigade

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<v Speaker 2>dot co dot nzen or slide into the DMS of

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 2>the Alternative Commentary Collective or the Base Brigade on Instagram

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 2>or Facebook with that answer, and while you're at it,

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 2>if you've got a short way epistle, flick that through

0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 2>to us as well. We'd love to hear from you

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>getting back on the horse over the course of the

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 2>cricket Will Cup. It'll be fantastic to hear from our

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 2>loyal and non loyal listeners over the next few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Forward's Cricket violence Corner. Well, this week we are

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia. It is official. Disgraced former cricketer Michael Slater's

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>name is being wipe from history in his home city.

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 2>The Wogga Wogga City councilors have voted in favor of

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<v Speaker 2>changing the name of Michael Slater Oval. This honor for

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 2>the test batter was unveiled in twenty fourteen. Fellow Wogga

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 2>products and former international cricketers Mark Taylor and Jeff Lawson

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:32.960
<v Speaker 2>also have Ovals named in their honor in Wogga Wogga,

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 2>colloquially dubbed the city is dubbed the City of Good

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Sports for its history of producing top athletes. But Michael

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Slater Oval will be no more after councilors voted four

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 2>to three in favor of changing the name. Of course,

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 2>the fifty four year old was last month refused bailed

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 2>by our Sunshine Coast course at court as he faces

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 2>nineteen charges relating to domestic violence. I've got a couple

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 2>of nominations for the Oval, Sam Moran from the Wiggles,

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<v Speaker 2>so the I don't think anyone would be crossing that out.

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.479
<v Speaker 1>Dame Edna Everidge, I'm not sure how open minded they are.

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>And Wogga Wogga, but she's from that neck of the woods.

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 2>And this one speaking of crossovers between Australia and New Zealand,

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 2>what about Raylene the Castle Oval, I think that could

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 2>confuse enough Australians.

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 1>She is a product of Wogga Wogga as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So there we go a couple of suggestions from me

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<v Speaker 2>to fix Wogga Wogger DC over to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Really sad story there as she and I was reading

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 3>a couple of the comments from the counselors who voted

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.920
<v Speaker 3>to retain the name, and it didn't give you a

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 3>lot of hope for Australia, for inland rural Australia, with

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 3>some of the thinking that went into some of the

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 3>defenses of Michael Stada. But anyway, we'll move right on.

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:46.399
<v Speaker 3>I've got a little bit of correspondence. This one's from

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Simon Sherbert and it relates to last week's conversation about

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.399
<v Speaker 3>the IPL and he said, Hey, Leaz, just wondering what

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 3>is to stop IPL owners buying into the Super Smash.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the biggest thing to stop them as not

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<v Speaker 3>for sale. But apart from that, pul forward, do you

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 3>have any thoughts off the top of your head.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a really interesting one and I guess it's a

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 2>real dilemma that countries that currently have not engaged private

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:21.239
<v Speaker 2>ownership into their T twenty franchises. I England, who are

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 2>obviously contemplating doing that it's about to happen. Australia are

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 2>in a well, there's lots of discussion about that becoming

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 2>a thing for the Big Bash. Look, I think I

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<v Speaker 2>do wonder whether the market has been subtly tested and

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<v Speaker 2>there's kind of no interest.

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know it potentially is I think that the primary issue

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 2>that we've that they've got at the moment is where

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 2>does the Super Smash.

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<v Speaker 1>New Zealand's a complicated place to get to.

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 3>Time zone is terrible.

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 2>The time zone is terrible and also now you've got

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 2>the added complexity of the New Zealand summer competing with

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Major League Cricket in the United States and also the

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 2>South African competition. So you know, arguably you could say

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 2>it's quite a good idea. It's maybe the direction that

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 2>the world is turning, but maybe it has turned too

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:09.880
<v Speaker 2>far for New Zealand to even contemplate doing that. You know,

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 2>we've talked before on the b YC about maybe New

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Zealand's place in the world around or the supersmashes place

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:16.280
<v Speaker 2>in the world around that is to be a feeder

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 2>competition for one of the others feels more realistic unfortunately.

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 3>And that's where I think there is. That's the only

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 3>kind of realistic proposition is that you'd buy into the

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 3>New Zealand competition if you're using it as a development

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 3>vehicle for talent. Essentially, you're not buying it as a

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 3>broadcast vehicle because no one wants to watch even in India,

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 3>you're not watching cricket at that time of the day

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 3>because it's just such a dreadful time zone. So it

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 3>would be a development because they simply can't get all

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:48.399
<v Speaker 3>the young talent that they've got there enough game time

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 3>and again, where's the attraction for New Zealand and that

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 3>apart from, you know, a few million rupees coming in?

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Do we want to turn the super smash into a

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 3>development vehicle a young Indian talent or other talent that

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:07.439
<v Speaker 3>they own from other countries that aren't getting game time

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 3>necessarily in the South African one or the IPL. It's

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 3>very complicated, but I'm and again that is why I

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 3>would love to see what New Zealand crickets strategy around

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:23.840
<v Speaker 3>this globalization of T twenty cricketers and specifically towards the IPL,

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 3>because there is going to be massive change in this area.

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 2>I think the other thing that's in my head around this,

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 2>and it's not a fully formed thought, but you know,

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 2>and it's almost sort of potentially it's slightly humiliating the

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 2>New Zealand cricket to contemplate, but maybe our place in

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 2>the world around this is actually becoming a development league

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 2>for some of these teams and some of the players

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 2>that are actually going around on this World Cup who

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:52.279
<v Speaker 2>aren't the superstars, and it's going to end up being afghanie, Ugandans,

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 2>players from Oman Netherlands and that becomes New New Zealand

0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of calves out its place as a sort of

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:04.319
<v Speaker 2>secondary part of a secondary world tour which has not

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 2>yet emerged, but eventually, as the IPL franchises take their

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of Formula one tier of cricketers, including lots of

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:14.160
<v Speaker 2>the big dogs from New Zealand as well, take them

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 2>up onto these full time contracts to play all around

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 2>the world in a various different competitions for teams that

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 2>they own, there's going to be a bunch of players

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:23.160
<v Speaker 2>who are left behind who either aspire to be in

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 2>that next tier or who are quite comfortable going around

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 2>the world playing cricket and getting paid decent money without

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 2>becoming squillionaires. And maybe realistically that's a more pragmatic place

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 2>for New Zealand to end up in the cricketing universe.

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sort of advocating for that, just being realistic.

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<v Speaker 2>And on that note, thanks for downloading and tuning into

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 2>the BYC.

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 1>It's quite nice to be back. We will also be

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 1>back on Monday too, with some glee or some gloom.

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 2>We'll be giving our hot take on the inaugural New

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 2>Zealand game versus the Misogynists of Afghanistan plus we'll be

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:56.799
<v Speaker 2>reviewing and previewing the other matches of the tournament in

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<v Speaker 2>the meantime, feel free to get in touch over the

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 2>weekend by emailing at b y C at basebagade dot co,

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<v Speaker 2>dot m Z and go the Bloody Black Cats eleven

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<v Speaker 2>thirty am Saturday morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on