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Speaker 1: Brian Brad Workplace Health and Safety getting a big shape up,

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Speaker 1: shake up this afternoon, I should say, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to go to Business en Z Chief Executive Captain rich

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Speaker 1: On this for reaction Catherine, Good evening, Good evening, you're

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Speaker 1: glad to be out of politics.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, it's the world of business. Advocacy is a

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Speaker 2: really good one, and so I'm really pleased by the

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Speaker 2: announcements today, Ryan, because I think the government's making some

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Speaker 2: progress to pair back some of the silly rules and

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Speaker 2: we've got ourselves into over a period of years. I

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Speaker 2: think the announcements today many small businesses will breathe a

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Speaker 2: sigh of relief because they're going to have to just

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Speaker 2: concentrate on the critical issues that cause death, serious injury

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Speaker 2: and illness and not get into the endless paperwork and

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Speaker 2: tick box exercises that makes them fearful about running their businesses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're taking small businesses out of the general requirements

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Speaker 1: under the Health and Safety at Work Act. Can you

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Speaker 1: just give us a couple of examples from businesses you're

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Speaker 1: aware of, what are some of the things that they

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Speaker 1: have been having to deal with.

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Speaker 2: Well, for a lot of businesses, particularly when they get

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Speaker 2: fearful about not doing the right thing, might overcompensate and

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Speaker 2: then bring in rules because they think they just want

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Speaker 2: to absolutely eradicate risk rather than manage or minimize it.

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Speaker 2: And it's that kind of environment if you get fearful,

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Speaker 2: which means more road cones, means things like being concerned

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Speaker 2: about lolly scrambles at community events or farmers being nervous

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Speaker 2: about having people on their properties. The announcements today, I

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Speaker 2: think will go a long way to remind small businesses

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Speaker 2: that their job is very successful in their businesses and

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Speaker 2: not to have to worry about things that are not serious,

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Speaker 2: stuff like you've still got to have a safe environment.

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Speaker 2: You've still we've got to do a whole bunch of

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Speaker 2: things to the workers. Safety is still paramount. But what

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Speaker 2: we're seeing here is a clarification of what the responsibilities

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Speaker 2: are because over a period of time, individual small mistresses

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Speaker 2: have been worried about doing something wrong and being the

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Speaker 2: one in the dock.

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Speaker 1: Catherine, thank you very much for your time. Appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Katherine Rich, who's the business MS chief executive.

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