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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show, Podcast number ninety six. A huge show today.

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Speaker 2: We go deep into running a lot of stories there

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Speaker 3: Oh, we started off talking about anger, but then I

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Speaker 3: back of the Gastro Pub Awards that were held overnight

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Speaker 3: and the supreme winner, according to the Gastro Pub Awards

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Speaker 3: what is your favorite pub and what makes a great

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Speaker 3: pub in New Zealand? That is after three o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it does look like a good pub. And the

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Speaker 3: Duck, nice juicy, plump duck. Yeah, that is after three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: On the back of an article that somewhat upset you met,

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Speaker 3: It's on the back of two stories we spotted yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's unfair to be yelling at road

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Speaker 2: expect the world not to abuse you. That's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: You can't be protected from people saying nasty stuff to you.

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Speaker 3: I think there's something in that you can only control

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Speaker 2: I just don't think we can clean the world completely

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Speaker 2: then good luck. Better to make yourself resilient to abuse

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Speaker 2: the abuse. The dichotomy you go is what they're saying true,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but how do you rise above? Because I generally

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Speaker 3: Mentioned to you the other day that when I jump

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Speaker 2: So do you believe we live in angrier times?

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Speaker 3: It feels like it. It does feel like it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred and eighty teen eighty Do we live

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Speaker 2: in angrier times? And if so, why why are people

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Speaker 3: The stat there one in four workers verbally abused on

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Speaker 2: So I guess there's two questions. Are we getting angrier,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon seventeen past one. Are we angrier out there?

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Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's the difference? Well, yeah, are people more angry?

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Speaker 2: Is there more things to be angry about? I guess

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Speaker 2: compared to a lot of places in the world. You know,

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Speaker 2: we're not being marched off to prisons for our political beliefs,

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Speaker 2: thank god. You know, we're not being shot out on

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Speaker 2: the street. I mean the anger we get at a

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Speaker 2: parking water. You know, imagine if your country was invaded. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: That would put things into perspective absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I mean, on the historical scale of things, we don't

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Speaker 2: to be getting angry. Jason, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: we're getting angrier per se. I work on the fore

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Speaker 6: it for five or sixty years.

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Speaker 2: Now a hot of stress.

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Speaker 2: I think if you call Jason, so he's saying over

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Speaker 3: And he's right at the forefront and that particular job.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Jason. One hundred and eight eighty

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Speaker 3: Are we angrier out there? Or are we just worse

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Speaker 2: Love to hear As Texas says, we might be angrier

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Speaker 2: it's just an example of something probably would make you know,

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you, and we've asked the question, are

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Speaker 2: With someone say that people try meditation to de stress,

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Speaker 2: You're in your you're in your thoughts. Hey, guys, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's something to that that we you know,

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Speaker 2: physical that impedes us, we don't get our heads around it. Hey, Robin,

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Speaker 2: when you say that you've got to you meditate a lot.

436
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Speaker 2: How often do you do that? And for how long.

437
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Speaker 10: I do it daily? I do it for thirteen minutes.

438
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Speaker 10: I've had lots of pain, so I've been taught that,

439
00:20:51,013 --> 00:20:53,773
Speaker 10: you know, if you meditate, you you can learn to

440
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Speaker 10: live with your pain, which is in fact I've found factual.

441
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Speaker 10: But I just found in my younger days I did

442
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Speaker 10: meditation retreats. It's just I've got a very quick brain

443
00:21:05,013 --> 00:21:09,653
Speaker 10: that you know, we want to do everything. There's always

444
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Speaker 10: sort of ten paces ahead, and that doesn't always help

445
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Speaker 10: because you can get impatient. So you have to learn tolerance.

446
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Speaker 10: I think, and I think meditation because you step aside

447
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Speaker 10: also in meditation that I'm aware of. It's not that

448
00:21:25,813 --> 00:21:29,413
Speaker 10: you still your brain. It's simply that you allow whatever

449
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Speaker 10: thoughts you have in your brain to just move past

450
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Speaker 10: like clouds. So yes, for me, that's very good. But

451
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Speaker 10: I think an awful lot of the comments that both

452
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Speaker 10: of you have raised, I think a spot on. I think,

453
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Speaker 10: as I say, when I look at the news sometimes

454
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Speaker 10: there's so much anger. When I look at Parliament, there's

455
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Speaker 10: so much anger. There's so much putting people down. Why

456
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Speaker 10: do we do it? Why do we keep attacking people

457
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Speaker 10: instead of policies or behaviors?

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Speaker 11: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Just to go back to your meditation for a second, Robin,

460
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Speaker 2: do you do a guided meditation or if you're appro

461
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Speaker 2: it's the wrong way to describe it. For meditations not

462
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Speaker 2: really about getting better and better, But do you you

463
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Speaker 2: just meditate using your own techniques, breathing or something.

464
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Speaker 10: I was a hypnos HERAPS for fifteen years, okay, and

465
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Speaker 10: I learned how to take myself into a lact state.

466
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Speaker 2: Yeah, being an.

467
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Speaker 10: Intermeditation or treats. So I don't like the sound in

468
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Speaker 10: my ears. I don't like I just like to allow

469
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Speaker 10: myself to just sometimes colors float by. Sometimes you just

470
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Speaker 10: hear sounds and just not get involved with it. And

471
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Speaker 10: I think the more you meditate, the more intuitive you become,

472
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Speaker 10: the more that allows you to step back and perhaps

473
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Speaker 10: think differently than.

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Speaker 2: What you Yeah, well, I tell you what, Robin, you

475
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Speaker 2: sound very calm.

476
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's got a calm way about her, and I

477
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Speaker 3: just take it. I feel calm. Just listen, it's clearly working.

478
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Speaker 2: Very very calming voice. You've got, Robin, So you're better

479
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Speaker 2: already here. You've calmed me down a little bit.

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Speaker 10: Well, well done, boys, you're doing a wonderful job.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: If you call Robin, oh, one hundred and eighty ten

483
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Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call love to hear from you.

484
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Speaker 2: Are we living in a more stressful world than previous generations?

485
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Speaker 2: Are we becoming angry? Because the thing is, we could

486
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Speaker 2: be becoming more angry, but we might not have the

487
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Speaker 2: reasons to become angry. It might be our fault. So

488
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Speaker 2: we might be doing something wrong in our lives that's

489
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Speaker 2: making us unduly angry over things that we shouldn't be

490
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Speaker 2: angry about. I mean, people get angry because they get

491
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Speaker 2: held up and you know the the you know, the

492
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Speaker 2: queue for a drive through, but you used to have

493
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Speaker 2: to get a spear and go out and get that food.

494
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Speaker 2: You're a very good point. That's pretty that's probably that

495
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Speaker 2: that's much harder than the slight impediment when you have

496
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Speaker 2: to go through the drive through and they ask you.

497
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Speaker 2: I've seen people get really angry when they go through

498
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Speaker 2: the drive through and they go, sorry, we have the

499
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Speaker 2: food's not ready, so can you just park over there?

500
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Speaker 2: And they're like, ah, what you hear you?

501
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Speaker 3: You call this fast food?

502
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Speaker 2: You used to have to go and grab us stick

503
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Speaker 2: and go and beat that food to death, drag it back.

504
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Speaker 2: We've got an open fire where you're being by other animals.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

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Speaker 3: call our headlines with SUSI coming up. It is twenty

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Speaker 3: six to two.

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Speaker 12: US talk sa'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's

509
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Speaker 12: no trouble with a blue bubble. The public service workforce

510
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Speaker 12: shrank four percent in the year to December. The largest

511
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Speaker 12: percentage full was that the Ministry of Disabled People losing

512
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Speaker 12: seventy five percent. The Ministry for the Environment and Offers

513
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Speaker 12: for Multi Crown Relations lost sixteen percent. A twenty eight

514
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Speaker 12: year old pottydoor man has appeared and caught over an

515
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Speaker 12: aggravated home invasion and minima complicated by the then by

516
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Speaker 12: discovery of an injured man who later died. A Canadian

517
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Speaker 12: woman has been disqualified from driving and ordered to pay

518
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Speaker 12: emotional harm costs after crashing her van now dung A

519
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Speaker 12: Taiki seriously injuring passengers. State Highway five is closed in

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Speaker 12: both directions north of Napier at thepol Who because of

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Speaker 12: a fire. A fifty five year old man has charged

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Speaker 12: over a break in an hours long standoff at Murder

523
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Speaker 12: Parter's unmanned police station yesterday. He is expected to appear

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Speaker 12: in the Dua District Court today. Oakland councilors will be

525
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Speaker 12: voting today on whether to approve building a new National

526
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527
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529
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Speaker 12: Now back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Susie. And we're talking about anger

531
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Speaker 3: levels out there in the community. Are we angrier out

532
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Speaker 3: there or is it just the way that we're dealing

533
00:25:47,373 --> 00:25:49,653
Speaker 3: with that perceived anger or slights against us?

534
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of road workers are getting abuse. A

535
00:25:52,093 --> 00:25:55,693
Speaker 2: quarter of them get abuse on any given day. So

536
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Speaker 2: I mean I'm also asking a wider question should you

537
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Speaker 2: should you quit what you're doing as what some of

538
00:26:03,453 --> 00:26:06,173
Speaker 2: these roadworkers are doing because of the abuse, or you

539
00:26:06,213 --> 00:26:08,173
Speaker 2: should you learn to be able to deal with the

540
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Speaker 2: buse because you can't cleanse the world of abuse. So

541
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Speaker 2: was it up to all of us to learn how

542
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Speaker 2: to deal with abuse so we can follow our dreams?

543
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Speaker 2: If you know what I'm saying, not great. They're not

544
00:26:17,933 --> 00:26:20,293
Speaker 2: saying that the abuses are the good guys. Know, the

545
00:26:20,413 --> 00:26:22,893
Speaker 2: abuses are bad people, but they're going to be everywhere.

546
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Speaker 2: You're never going to cleanse the world from abuse, but

547
00:26:24,933 --> 00:26:28,173
Speaker 2: you can train yourself to deal with it. Lads, we

548
00:26:28,173 --> 00:26:30,373
Speaker 2: don't live in more stressful times. CIS's text that we

549
00:26:30,413 --> 00:26:33,053
Speaker 2: live in more impatient times. Want it no our generation

550
00:26:33,173 --> 00:26:36,293
Speaker 2: as everything is at our fingertips. Imagine a teenager putting

551
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Speaker 2: things physically on lay by now paying you're twenty dollars

552
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Speaker 2: a week over two years before you physically got your bides.

553
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Speaker 2: I can't I mentione my teenagers doing that. Yeah, well,

554
00:26:45,573 --> 00:26:48,893
Speaker 2: you know, like, what is it called when you pay

555
00:26:50,373 --> 00:26:52,493
Speaker 2: now and you get it and you pay it off on.

556
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Speaker 3: Oh oh cheap as Andrew, what do you call it?

557
00:26:56,173 --> 00:26:57,813
Speaker 3: You pay it off in four installments?

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Speaker 13: Pay?

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Speaker 3: Come on? We all know.

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Speaker 2: It's called after pay, after pay, thank you? Yeah, after

561
00:27:05,253 --> 00:27:07,893
Speaker 2: pay that that is the definition of impatience.

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Speaker 3: This Texas, thees guys, I think of a lot of

563
00:27:10,733 --> 00:27:15,293
Speaker 3: the anger correlates with growing entitlement, which has somehow crept

564
00:27:15,333 --> 00:27:18,293
Speaker 3: into our culture. So not generational, So many seem to

565
00:27:18,293 --> 00:27:21,253
Speaker 3: think that nothing applies to them. When reality hits, they

566
00:27:21,373 --> 00:27:23,613
Speaker 3: are in shock and freak out from Christian.

567
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what this Texas says kind of similar.

568
00:27:25,613 --> 00:27:27,813
Speaker 2: Anger comes from goals that are blocked. Eg. You have

569
00:27:27,853 --> 00:27:29,653
Speaker 2: a new car and you come to it and see

570
00:27:29,693 --> 00:27:31,373
Speaker 2: it's got a big scratch on it. You are not

571
00:27:31,453 --> 00:27:33,333
Speaker 2: angry because it's got a scratch on it, but because

572
00:27:33,333 --> 00:27:36,333
Speaker 2: it shouldn't have had a scratch, which was your what

573
00:27:36,413 --> 00:27:39,453
Speaker 2: your goal? You know, so your anger. So if we're

574
00:27:39,453 --> 00:27:42,533
Speaker 2: getting more angry, now, is it just because our expectations

575
00:27:42,533 --> 00:27:45,333
Speaker 2: have moved and our goal is to have a very

576
00:27:45,373 --> 00:27:47,733
Speaker 2: easy and smooth life. And in a lot of ways

577
00:27:47,733 --> 00:27:50,453
Speaker 2: we get that. You know, we get very you know,

578
00:27:50,453 --> 00:27:53,413
Speaker 2: our technology makes things very very smooth. It's very very

579
00:27:53,413 --> 00:27:55,213
Speaker 2: smooth on social media as they get in there to

580
00:27:55,213 --> 00:27:57,853
Speaker 2: try and to raise your brain. Very very easy to

581
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Speaker 2: do a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 3: It is, Floyd, how are you this afternoon?

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Speaker 14: Absolutely fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Oh you're a good man. Fantastic, No, pointy e that's

585
00:28:10,293 --> 00:28:11,253
Speaker 3: the attitude we need.

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Speaker 15: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Now mate, you are a rugby referee, is it right?

588
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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: I have been doing that now for fifteen.

590
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Speaker 3: Years and you would have seen some stuff.

591
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Speaker 14: Oh yeah, Look it's getting We now have an academic

592
00:28:27,573 --> 00:28:31,373
Speaker 14: abuse in sport, and I'm talking across all sporting codes internationally,

593
00:28:31,493 --> 00:28:35,893
Speaker 14: is an absolute total academic at the extreme end of

594
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Speaker 14: the scale. Last year on the Hawk's Bays game got

595
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Speaker 14: called a premiere game. I called off for ten minutes

596
00:28:42,333 --> 00:28:45,173
Speaker 14: into the second half and the visiting team got chased

597
00:28:45,173 --> 00:28:47,173
Speaker 14: down the road and had their back window of the

598
00:28:47,333 --> 00:28:52,413
Speaker 14: band blowing out with a shotgun. Yeah yeah, seriously, that's the.

599
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Speaker 3: Extreme end there was reported, wasn't it? Freud I mean,

600
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Speaker 3: that's part of my work. Yeah, yeah, I remember that story.

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Speaker 14: It was yeah at the at this morning. I mean,

602
00:29:02,093 --> 00:29:05,533
Speaker 14: he's made the comment that we can't eliminate, we can't

603
00:29:05,573 --> 00:29:09,853
Speaker 14: e eliminate abuse, but we can actually reduce. But I've

604
00:29:09,893 --> 00:29:12,533
Speaker 14: worked very hard with four proscedures and we're at schools

605
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Speaker 14: in the or area over the last four years and

606
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Speaker 14: to the point where we've actually eliminated not only have

607
00:29:18,373 --> 00:29:22,053
Speaker 14: we eliminated abuse, but we've eliminated high tackles. And it's

608
00:29:22,093 --> 00:29:25,653
Speaker 14: all to do with doing the right coaching and the

609
00:29:25,733 --> 00:29:28,213
Speaker 14: right people get getting in the right places and saying

610
00:29:28,253 --> 00:29:28,973
Speaker 14: the right things.

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Speaker 2: So, Floyd, is the abuse you're talking about, director, That

612
00:29:32,693 --> 00:29:37,013
Speaker 2: is the abuse You're talking about directors at referees.

613
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Speaker 14: The players, the players to referees, by coaches, by spectators,

614
00:29:42,093 --> 00:29:46,173
Speaker 14: it's across the board. But by working with by working

615
00:29:46,213 --> 00:29:48,213
Speaker 14: with the coaches and getting them to get a better

616
00:29:48,333 --> 00:29:51,893
Speaker 14: understanding of what abuse is. So where I'm going with

617
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Speaker 14: us is we've actually what's happened over the years is

618
00:29:55,333 --> 00:29:59,453
Speaker 14: we've lowered the bar. All right, the bar of accessibility

619
00:29:59,573 --> 00:30:03,973
Speaker 14: is reduced so far that abuse just about has to

620
00:30:04,013 --> 00:30:07,773
Speaker 14: be really serious today before anybody recognizes it as abuse.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that? Do you think kids are being

622
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Speaker 2: taught because you know, when I was playing sport as

623
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Speaker 2: a kid, the the respecting the ref was just drilled

624
00:30:17,053 --> 00:30:21,053
Speaker 2: into you so hard. Is that still happening? Is that

625
00:30:21,213 --> 00:30:23,573
Speaker 2: lesson that what the ref says goes?

626
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Speaker 14: No, that's gone. So these days coaches, coaches that all

627
00:30:28,773 --> 00:30:32,813
Speaker 14: of them is all braids, totally have the Giving example,

628
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Speaker 14: I referee to a game between the two hot schools

629
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Speaker 14: on Saturday and one of the coaches is an ex

630
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Speaker 14: all book and he twice he totally disrespected my route me,

631
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Speaker 14: disrespected me before the game, and he disrespected me during

632
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Speaker 14: the game. And the stupidity of it is he doesn't

633
00:30:57,373 --> 00:31:03,773
Speaker 14: actually recognize that that's what he's done. Wow, disrespect equals abuse.

634
00:31:03,893 --> 00:31:07,973
Speaker 14: If it's not respectable, it's abusive. And so it's become

635
00:31:08,093 --> 00:31:11,413
Speaker 14: part out of the coaching culture that it's actually okay

636
00:31:12,013 --> 00:31:14,573
Speaker 14: to challenge a referee or just respect the referee, and

637
00:31:14,933 --> 00:31:17,653
Speaker 14: that's okay. That's one thing. The bar has been lowered

638
00:31:17,773 --> 00:31:22,013
Speaker 14: to touch a degree that even New Zealand Rugby as

639
00:31:22,053 --> 00:31:26,573
Speaker 14: an entity has the most incredible definition of abuse in

640
00:31:26,613 --> 00:31:29,093
Speaker 14: their policy documents, but ninety five percent of the stuff,

641
00:31:29,093 --> 00:31:33,093
Speaker 14: don't even know it? What is it? Well, if you don't,

642
00:31:33,213 --> 00:31:35,093
Speaker 14: if you got engineer Rugby and you search through the

643
00:31:35,173 --> 00:31:38,853
Speaker 14: policy documents, you'll see it. And it's long for me

644
00:31:38,893 --> 00:31:42,253
Speaker 14: to repeat here. Okay, but what's just it's a great

645
00:31:42,373 --> 00:31:45,613
Speaker 14: it's a great definition. Basically it says respect the referee.

646
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Speaker 14: If you want some it up right, just sum it

647
00:31:48,733 --> 00:31:52,853
Speaker 14: up in three respect the referee. But they don't know it.

648
00:31:52,893 --> 00:31:56,093
Speaker 14: They don't. I'm having for years, I've been having a

649
00:31:56,133 --> 00:31:59,813
Speaker 14: battle with the whole rugby fraternity about we need to

650
00:32:00,133 --> 00:32:02,973
Speaker 14: we need to get back to raising the bar of

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Speaker 14: what's acceptable and what respect is.

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Speaker 3: So just quickly, sorry to jump in the what would

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Speaker 3: because you mentioned disrespect there from that coach and we

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Speaker 3: don't want to name names, but he was a former

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Speaker 3: All Black?

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Speaker 2: But what what do we want to name that?

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Speaker 3: That's over to you, Floyd. But what what would be

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Speaker 3: an example?

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Speaker 17: Is it?

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Speaker 3: What an example of disrespect be? Come on, reef, you're blind?

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Speaker 3: Would that that would be an example?

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Speaker 14: Let me let me, let me give you the two examples.

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Speaker 14: Pre match, my pre match and I'm probably the only

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Speaker 14: referee in the copy that does it. I bring in

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Speaker 14: the entire team and the coaches, and I tell them

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Speaker 14: what my expectations are.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 14: I talked to him about how I'm going to referee,

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Speaker 14: and it takes maybe three minutes for a minute and

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Speaker 14: I and I worked with this coach for a large

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Speaker 14: number of years, and he's nothing's changed. He doesn't want

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Speaker 14: to know, he doesn't want to hear it. And so

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Speaker 14: I asked for for that time with the team, and

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Speaker 14: halfway through my PREMATCHI blue is Whistle said times up,

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Speaker 14: this go.

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Speaker 13: Right.

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Speaker 14: My first thought was okay, and I won't say his name.

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Speaker 14: You've done it again. So your team is the one

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Speaker 14: going to miss out on the field because I'm not

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Speaker 14: going to get what I want from them, right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: The second time was midway through the second half. I

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Speaker 14: penalized his team for a certain incident and he's on

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Speaker 14: the dead on the trial, which is where he shouldn't

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Speaker 14: have been. Should have been on the dead ball line,

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Speaker 14: screaming at me that I've got it wrong. Now what

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Speaker 14: he's doing. And when he's doing that, he's the meaning

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Speaker 14: my authority on the field with his team, telling his

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Speaker 14: team the referee has got it wrong. It's okay to

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Speaker 14: challenge him now. As it turns out, the game was

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Speaker 14: so a place that it sets all back and forth,

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Speaker 14: and it was thirty three thirty one, so it was

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Speaker 14: a great game of footing. But those two instances is

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Speaker 14: what I'm talking about into disrespect. One he didn't give

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Speaker 14: me the opportunity to say what I needed to say

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Speaker 14: to get his team on board to get the discipline

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Speaker 14: I needed on the field. And the second one was

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Speaker 14: he thinks it's just right. It challenged me in my refrain.

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Speaker 14: He's not the refrain. All right, if we've got something

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Speaker 14: to say to me, ask me about the afters, but

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Speaker 14: you don't tell your team in the middle of it,

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Speaker 14: yellout to scream at your team I'm getting it wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. You got to speak the ref absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if that was not just quickly? Was that

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Speaker 2: was this particular ex all black? Was he a half back?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think I know who you mean.

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Speaker 3: Right, We might get them on the phone and trying

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Speaker 3: to find themself with no names. Floyd, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 15: Mate.

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Speaker 3: We're horribly late, but we'll be back with more of

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Speaker 3: your phone calls very shortly. Thirteen to two.

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Speaker 1: me good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: It is ten to two, and we've asked the question,

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Speaker 3: are we angry at out there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a lot of people coming through and

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Speaker 2: saying that we're very angry on the sports field. And

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Speaker 2: you know, we've been hearing a lot about people being

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Speaker 2: angry at road workers. This Texas says, Hey, just the

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Speaker 2: same as respecting your parents, it flows onto cops, teachers, coaches,

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Speaker 2: refs and each other.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point. This one's the afternoon guys.

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Speaker 3: I'm sixty three and coming up to forty years working

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Speaker 3: on the roads. I haven't noticed a change in the abuse,

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Speaker 3: but what I have noticed is that the younger generations

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Speaker 3: can't handle it and they take it personally. The other

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Speaker 3: thing is today, if it happens, you're obligated to make

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Speaker 3: a report to our Health and safety officer. A near

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Speaker 3: miest reporter is what it's called, and is reported as

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Speaker 3: a mental health problem. And that's where n ZTA get

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Speaker 3: their statistics from. That's interesting.

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Speaker 2: In hospitals, people are rude, says Suzi. They have rights

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Speaker 2: and no responsibilities and expect everything done yesterday and for free.

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Speaker 2: Some shifts can be scary and exhausting due to often

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Speaker 2: unreasonable expectations. People that are road to nurses and staff

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Speaker 2: and hospitals are the worst of us.

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Speaker 3: Horrendous, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: What about those absolute scum that fight fire fire fire,

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Speaker 2: you know, firefighters on the tim at the house, and

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Speaker 2: then ambulance and ambulance officers.

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Speaker 3: What is going through the head? You know, as you

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Speaker 3: say the hospital, they're either helping you or a family member,

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Speaker 3: and you flip out on a nurse for an ambo officer.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. Right, We're going to take more of your

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Speaker 3: calls very shortly. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: is the number to call. It is nine to two.

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Speaker 1: Matties Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 3: B news talks. It'd be it is six two two, Nick.

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Speaker 3: How are you this afternoon?

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Speaker 18: Good?

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Speaker 19: Ayah, good?

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Speaker 2: Thanks Tiler.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I just thought you know, it's on the person.

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Speaker 19: Really to not.

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Speaker 16: Back when they're presented with these stressful sort of situations

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Speaker 16: that make them angry. I probably used to be more angry,

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Speaker 16: and now I sort of recognize that we're this has happened,

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Speaker 16: when something's happened, and I just just am at peace

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Speaker 16: with it, you know, so rather than looking to everyone else,

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Speaker 16: sort of looking at yourself first and how you're reacting

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Speaker 16: to these things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it makes a fair point is

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Speaker 3: how we deal with it, And that's the philosophy of

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Speaker 3: yours matters that we when something happens a slight or

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Speaker 3: something goes wrong and what is mostly a comfortable life

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Speaker 3: for all of us, considering what populations have dealt with

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Speaker 3: in the past, it's how you deal with it that

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Speaker 3: is getting us into trouble.

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Speaker 2: Well, how about this from this Dutch philosopher called ensl Ganger,

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Speaker 2: And he said, insert insult. Is it true? If yes,

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Speaker 2: then it's an insult? Why be offended by it? I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: insert insult? Is it true? If yes, then it's not

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Speaker 2: an insult. Why be offended by it? If no, then

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Speaker 2: it's nonsense. Why be triggered by nonsense? So if someone

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Speaker 2: abuses you and it's not true what they're saying and

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Speaker 2: it's not fair, then that's on the abuser, So you

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Speaker 2: should not be triggered by that if it is true.

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Speaker 2: If they point something out to you that's true, Like

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Speaker 2: I don't really like your new haircut, Tyler, it's not

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Speaker 2: a great haircut. That's true, So you should thank me

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Speaker 2: for the insult. You see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Why would I thank you for that? Though?

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Speaker 2: That hurts?

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Speaker 3: You know, I pay for this haircut, but.

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Speaker 2: You needed to know that the haircut, haircut isn't great

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Speaker 2: and that you you need to get a different barber.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: The fade was pretty good though, wouldn't they? No, that

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Speaker 3: is a good quote. And I mean when you get

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Speaker 3: cut off by someone on the on the road right,

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Speaker 3: slightly different situation, but quite often is that done with

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Speaker 3: malice or was that just an accident that didn't mean

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Speaker 3: to slight you, They didn't mean to cut you.

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Speaker 2: Ask yourself, have you ever cut anyone off before?

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Speaker 3: Not on purpose?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: No, If I did, it was by.

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Speaker 2: Except But I'm just saying generally, if someone cuts you off,

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Speaker 2: you know, if you've if you've if you've committed the

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Speaker 2: sin that the person's committed, that you're angry at yourself,

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Speaker 2: it's harder to remain angry at them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very true.

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Speaker 2: And also just take a big breath. It's right, just

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Speaker 2: take a big breath, big breath in, big breath out,

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Speaker 2: and really helps with anger.

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Speaker 3: Yep, there's a lot to be happy about. Right, that's

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Speaker 3: a good discussion. Thank you very much for all the

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Speaker 3: phone calls and texts we got on that one. After

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Speaker 3: two o'clock we're going to be talking about running. Is

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Speaker 3: it the ultimate exercise? Love to hear from you on

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Speaker 3: this one. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 3: listening to Matt and Tyler.

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Speaker 21: Good afternoon, talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams Afternoon SWI the Volvo XC

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Speaker 1: ninety news Talk zaid be good afternoons.

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Speaker 3: You welcome back into the show six past. Too great

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Speaker 3: to have your company. As always, Let's have a chat

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Speaker 3: about running. Is running the ultimate form of exercise? On

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Speaker 3: the back of a story in The Herald about what

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Speaker 3: they are calling the run walk.

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Speaker 2: Method, Yes, so they're saying that the best kind of

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Speaker 2: running is to run for a bit, then walk for

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Speaker 2: a bit and work out your own you know, variation

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Speaker 2: on that. But I think that that's cheating. I think

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Speaker 2: if you say that's a run walk, that's fine, but

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Speaker 2: it's not a run. A run is when you run

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Speaker 2: the whole time that you're running. A run. Walk is

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Speaker 2: a different thing. Now, walks of walk. Love a walk.

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Speaker 2: Love a walk. And if you go for a walk

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Speaker 2: and you run a bit of it, sure call it

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Speaker 2: a walk. That's fine. But if I if I say

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Speaker 2: I ran five k and I ran one k, then

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Speaker 2: walked one k, then ran cat one k, then walked

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Speaker 2: one k, then ran one k, you know I was

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Speaker 2: saying that that's not.

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Speaker 3: A run'd except defeat. So if you got home after

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Speaker 3: your five k run and at some stage you walked

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Speaker 3: and your partner said, how'd your run go? It wasn't

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Speaker 3: a run. I wasn't a run. In the end, I failed.

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Speaker 2: It's different if you're on one of those ultra marathons.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not going to Nicolin dime someone that's running,

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Speaker 2: you know, eighty five k. If they walk up the

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Speaker 2: hilly bits, you know that's that's Okay, yeah you could,

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Speaker 2: but I'd also say, you know, you know, in look

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Speaker 2: marathon runners, they will you know, they might get a

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Speaker 2: really good time, and they might walk through while they're

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Speaker 2: having their drink, So they might walk past the drink

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Speaker 2: thing slow down just to get the water in them,

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Speaker 2: you know, So it's just sort of a walk just

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Speaker 2: so they can get all the fluids they need and

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Speaker 2: whatever sort of energy goop they're shoving down themselves. I

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Speaker 2: get that, but the intention is that you're running. You're

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Speaker 2: running the whole time, You're not just slowing to have

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Speaker 2: a whole walk. But really, the wider question is, and

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of different kinds of exercise out there

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Speaker 2: now that are being pushed at us. You know, anyone

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Speaker 2: that's on Instagram gets a fad exercise regime shoved at

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Speaker 2: them every thirty seconds. But I personally think running is

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Speaker 2: absolutely the best because you don't pay for it. Running

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Speaker 2: is free. You just go out the door and you're running.

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Speaker 2: So you know, what do people think about?

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Speaker 7: This?

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Speaker 2: Is running a great form of exercise because the other

870
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Speaker 2: side of it, as people say, it's terrible for your legs.

871
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Speaker 2: It puts a lot of stress on your body, it's

872
00:41:54,293 --> 00:41:57,493
Speaker 2: too intense. There's a lot of people saying that running

873
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Speaker 2: is bad. My mate Lee Hart said in the other

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Speaker 2: day running stupid yourself. It's no good running. No good

875
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Speaker 2: ever comes from running. Matt, because I was running around

876
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Speaker 2: the neighborhood when he saw me, he goes, no, it's

877
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Speaker 2: bad for you, to be fair.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't need a little much of a runner.

879
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Speaker 2: He's fit. Man. Is he boxes?

880
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Speaker 3: Oh he's very fall guy, isn't he's very much solid?

881
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you though you wouldn't want to get into

882
00:42:19,093 --> 00:42:19,813
Speaker 2: a fight with that guy.

883
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Speaker 3: But what do you You have been running your training

884
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Speaker 3: at the moment, But what do you get out of it?

885
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Speaker 3: Do you generally enjoy it? You get ed and dolphins?

886
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Speaker 3: But that is it is an exercise that you look

887
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Speaker 3: forward to.

888
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Speaker 2: Oh I love running, it's great. But look forward to it?

889
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Speaker 22: Isn't?

890
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Speaker 2: Isn't it? Because it is hard to do it? You know,

891
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Speaker 2: it's hard to run. You have to motivate yourself. So

892
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Speaker 2: I do things like I put my running gear out

893
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Speaker 2: the night before I go to bed after reading Atomic

894
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Speaker 2: Habits by James Clear, I put my running shoes out

895
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Speaker 2: and my running gear out, so when I get out

896
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Speaker 2: of bed, I see it and then I just put

897
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Speaker 2: it on and then then I go for a run.

898
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Speaker 2: But there's a great feeling after it. It's meditative. I

899
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Speaker 2: get into the breathing. I think it's just an absolutely

900
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Speaker 2: fantastic form form of exercise. I don't believe it's bad

901
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Speaker 2: for you. I believe if you do it right, then

902
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Speaker 2: you then you protect yourself from injuries. I think it's

903
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Speaker 2: the best form of exercise out there. But do you

904
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Speaker 2: agree I eight hundred eighty ten eighty. And if you

905
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Speaker 2: are a runner, you know, what are some tips for

906
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Speaker 2: people that want to get into it? And is it

907
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Speaker 2: just better exercise than all the fad diets put together?

908
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Speaker 2: Well not diets, so fad exercise. You know the difference

909
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Speaker 2: between you know, running to lose weight, you're going to

910
00:43:27,333 --> 00:43:29,172
Speaker 2: You're going to have to get some diet in there. Yeah,

911
00:43:29,933 --> 00:43:32,973
Speaker 2: it's very hard to run your fat guts out that

912
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Speaker 2: you have to run a long way to get rid

913
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Speaker 2: of your.

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Speaker 3: Fat guts nicely said right. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: is the number to call love to hear from you.

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Speaker 3: If you are a runner, what do you get out

917
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Speaker 3: of it? Have you been successful with losing weight getting fit?

918
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Speaker 3: Just with running. Get on the phone. It is ten

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Speaker 3: past two.

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Speaker 1: Your new home of afternoon talk. Matt and Taylor Afternoons

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Speaker 1: with the Volvo XC ninety. Turn every journey into something special.

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Speaker 1: Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

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Speaker 4: Sa'd be.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen past two? Is running the ultimate form of exercise?

925
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Speaker 3: When it comes to running, I think it's for you

926
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Speaker 3: to say it kind of. It's a bit of a

927
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Speaker 3: rollercoaster on how it trends.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes all the experts say it's the best thing you

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Speaker 3: can even do. Then there's a period to say it's

931
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Speaker 3: really bad for your joints and your knees. Then it

932
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Speaker 3: comes back to the fore. So it is just a

933
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Speaker 3: bit confusing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean all those things. Someone hears his Matt, No,

935
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Speaker 2: running is for losers. Every time I see one, I

936
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Speaker 2: want to tax it them back to reality. Okay, I

937
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Speaker 2: don't know what that taser?

938
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Speaker 3: Taser?

939
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Speaker 2: Oh good, I've got to get a taser reference in

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Speaker 2: every show. Hey, guys, running is extremely high impact and

941
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Speaker 2: wears out ankles, knees, hips, and spine over time. Not

942
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Speaker 2: good in old age. I believe the best exercise is

943
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Speaker 2: their parents would heat them up for a lunch. Worked well,

944
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Speaker 2: all right, we loved it.

945
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Speaker 3: I think he's combined to to texts. There he started

946
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Speaker 3: off running.

947
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Speaker 2: I believe the best exercises the eating, being eaten alive

948
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Speaker 2: by your parents. Mike, can you tixt back? Sounds like

949
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Speaker 2: you're promoting cannibalism. I'm sure that's not what you meant.

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Speaker 2: Walking drawing an intended runner's failure. Fellas you stop to

951
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Speaker 2: walk once you do it again. Uh yeah, so yeah,

952
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Speaker 2: it's fair there. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Absolutely, Henry,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the show. You're a big fan of running.

954
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Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, I got it's gone like a person and

955
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Speaker 23: you know, say I've got an injury at the moment,

956
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Speaker 23: I'm not really twenty minutes a day too.

957
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Speaker 7: I can build back up here.

958
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Speaker 18: But ye know, I love it. It's just you know,

959
00:45:30,453 --> 00:45:32,613
Speaker 18: you're out there boy yourself and or you know when

960
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Speaker 18: you join a club and there it's you know, listen, so.

961
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Speaker 3: When you say join a club, are you still part

962
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Speaker 3: of that club?

963
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Speaker 19: Henry?

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Speaker 18: Noa quind a part time when they start common from

965
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Speaker 18: the and the area club starts or just stout the

966
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Speaker 18: Easter weekend. But I'm sixty seven and there's no real

967
00:45:54,573 --> 00:45:58,213
Speaker 18: guards my age running anymore, you know, the wall you passed.

968
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Speaker 19: Away or retired.

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Speaker 3: How far would you run these days, Henry, on a

970
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Speaker 3: regular basis.

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Speaker 6: Oh, just for an hour and a half.

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Speaker 20: For every second, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's a solid run. How far are you go in

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Speaker 3: an hour and a half?

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Speaker 18: Oh right, well thirteen? You know it just bends hell

976
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Speaker 18: how fast running?

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Speaker 6: Because I never take a watch, So I just like

978
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Speaker 6: to go out there and you just run.

979
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Speaker 7: You know, you run for time.

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Speaker 18: It's like Lidy had said, you know, the longer you're

981
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Speaker 18: out there, the better it is. So I haven't even

982
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Speaker 18: worn a watch because if you wear a watch, you're

983
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Speaker 18: always looking at your time, and you get to places

984
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Speaker 18: where you've been to day boys think god, I'm slow.

985
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Speaker 7: Look at that.

986
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Speaker 6: It's ten minutes to get here, and.

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Speaker 18: You know whereas if you don't wear a watch, well

988
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Speaker 18: you don't know, and you're just running freely and you

989
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Speaker 18: get all that extra time.

990
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Speaker 20: And you run and you come home and yeah, you

991
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Speaker 20: feel all right.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, Henry. I think it's great not

993
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Speaker 2: taking a watch. Just you just go for a run.

994
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Speaker 2: For you say, I'm going for an hour and then

995
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Speaker 2: you run for an hour. That's great. I mean, like,

996
00:46:52,693 --> 00:46:54,533
Speaker 2: like you know, maybe you have a watch, but not

997
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Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm talking about these smart watches that everyone

998
00:46:57,213 --> 00:46:59,253
Speaker 2: thinks they need before they start running. They're like, I

999
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Speaker 2: need to spend a thousand dollars to wrap a computer

1000
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Speaker 2: around my wrist before I can run. The beauty of

1001
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Speaker 2: running is you just go out the door and you run. Interestingly, Henry,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned Lydiard. My partner is a Lydiad. She's part

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Speaker 2: of the family Lydiad fo. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, she doesn't

1004
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Speaker 2: run though, that's unfair. Actually she does run. She is

1005
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Speaker 2: trying to run at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you're part of that family of various

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Speaker 3: steemed runners.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thank if you call Henry. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: that's the thing. That's why I think running is such

1010
00:47:33,133 --> 00:47:35,573
Speaker 2: a good form of exercise, despite the fact that four

1011
00:47:35,613 --> 00:47:37,533
Speaker 2: thousand people have just texted that it's terrible for you

1012
00:47:37,653 --> 00:47:41,172
Speaker 2: and your ankles and your hips and your and you'll

1013
00:47:41,213 --> 00:47:43,373
Speaker 2: immediately break a leg by trying to do it. I

1014
00:47:43,453 --> 00:47:45,293
Speaker 2: think just the fact that you can hit out the

1015
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Speaker 2: door and run, it's just such a fantastic part of it.

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Speaker 2: This Texas says muy Thai kickboxing is your best cardio hit.

1017
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Speaker 2: I'm seventeen years deep, fifty and as fit as my

1018
00:47:54,133 --> 00:47:56,533
Speaker 2: twenty year old mate. Yeah, muy ti, there's no doubt

1019
00:47:56,573 --> 00:47:57,333
Speaker 2: that is good fitness.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely this one. Tyler and Matt I have been

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00:48:00,173 --> 00:48:03,373
Speaker 3: running for years. Just cranked out my fastest five k

1022
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Speaker 3: on Monday. Achieved it by doing a walk run strategy.

1023
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Speaker 3: I think you need to manage the walk component as

1024
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Speaker 3: a very small percentage of the total time from b Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's true, and I agree with that

1026
00:48:16,133 --> 00:48:18,533
Speaker 2: that the walk run thing may you can actually get

1027
00:48:18,573 --> 00:48:22,093
Speaker 2: faster times with it. Yeah, I agree, But part of

1028
00:48:22,173 --> 00:48:24,853
Speaker 2: me just thinks it's weak. And I just think even

1029
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Speaker 2: if you're slower on the run and you're basically being

1030
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Speaker 2: passed by people that are walking there chuahwas Yeah, but

1031
00:48:31,133 --> 00:48:34,212
Speaker 2: you're still in the running motion. I think that's part

1032
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Speaker 2: of the run.

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Speaker 3: But I think the distinction there was if you're training

1034
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Speaker 3: for something, okay, but it's not a run. If you

1035
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Speaker 3: walk in the run, it's not a run.

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Speaker 2: Matt, you muppet running is bad for you. You should swim, okay, Yeah,

1037
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Speaker 2: but there's no pull directly outside my door. I'd have

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Speaker 2: to swim through the concrete. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call. Love to hear your thoughts on this. If

1041
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Speaker 3: you're a massive runner, we're keen to chet you. And

1042
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Speaker 3: if you've tried running and it didn't go so well,

1043
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Speaker 3: I love to hear from you as well. It is

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Speaker 3: eighteen past two. There are heaps of great opportunities out

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Speaker 2: present with attractive streetscapes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's strategically located, with unmatched connectivity to the inner

1051
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Speaker 3: city and well established infrastructure already in place.

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Speaker 2: Auckland's north and west is experiencing an extreme shortage of

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Speaker 2: industrial lands, so Speading Industrial Estate rarely fills that gap.

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Speaker 3: The area is one of Auckland's key growth nodes, with

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Speaker 3: substantial residential and infrastructure development supporting this explosion of development,

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Speaker 3: so it makes sense that such a well considered industrial

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Speaker 3: estate would emerge in the heart of this precinct to

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Speaker 3: deliver major employment opportunities.

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Speaker 2: Spading has development lots available from three thousand to fifty

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Speaker 2: thousand square meters be a part of.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 1: ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. We're talking about running as the ultimate form

1068
00:50:25,653 --> 00:50:27,533
Speaker 3: of exercise. But it's on the back of a story

1069
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Speaker 3: in the New Zealand Herald the run walk method as

1070
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Speaker 3: it's being called. There are claims that that is the

1071
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Speaker 3: superior method if you are training for a somewhat longer run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hi guys, this is tex A great show as always,

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Speaker 2: thank you. If I was in my late forties. If

1074
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Speaker 2: I was in my late forties and was thinking about

1075
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Speaker 2: taking up running as next size, where would I start? Like,

1076
00:50:47,973 --> 00:50:50,053
Speaker 2: just buy some good shoes and get out there. I

1077
00:50:50,173 --> 00:50:52,213
Speaker 2: know it sounds dumb, but I'm serious. Is there anything

1078
00:50:52,253 --> 00:50:54,453
Speaker 2: I should know? How long, how far? Except you to

1079
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Speaker 2: start with? Appreciate your advice. I'm likely to be tasered too.

1080
00:50:58,253 --> 00:51:02,453
Speaker 2: Is that a real danger? Yeah, there's always a danger

1081
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Speaker 2: of getting tasered when you're out running.

1082
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Speaker 3: It's never zero percent.

1083
00:51:04,693 --> 00:51:07,373
Speaker 2: Do you know what I think we should ring my

1084
00:51:07,533 --> 00:51:12,573
Speaker 2: mate Dominic Harvey. He's run multiple marathons and he's written

1085
00:51:12,853 --> 00:51:15,813
Speaker 2: a book on running, his love Affair with running, and

1086
00:51:16,093 --> 00:51:18,133
Speaker 2: so we will get him on it because he'll be

1087
00:51:18,173 --> 00:51:20,053
Speaker 2: able to answer all those questions. That's good because I

1088
00:51:20,053 --> 00:51:21,373
Speaker 2: think a lot of people think they have to spend

1089
00:51:21,373 --> 00:51:23,093
Speaker 2: a lot of money before they start running. As I

1090
00:51:23,173 --> 00:51:24,893
Speaker 2: was saying before, they feel like they need to buy

1091
00:51:24,973 --> 00:51:27,573
Speaker 2: a one thousand dollars computer to strap around there at

1092
00:51:27,653 --> 00:51:30,053
Speaker 2: risk before they start running. You don't need that, but

1093
00:51:30,173 --> 00:51:33,053
Speaker 2: I think there is there is reason to buy good

1094
00:51:33,093 --> 00:51:36,213
Speaker 2: shoes to protect your feet. You know, you go to

1095
00:51:36,293 --> 00:51:38,212
Speaker 2: one of those people that I've got to complain about,

1096
00:51:38,253 --> 00:51:39,813
Speaker 2: one of those people with the walking things I might

1097
00:51:39,893 --> 00:51:41,813
Speaker 2: you know when yours is what they call them. No, No,

1098
00:51:41,973 --> 00:51:43,652
Speaker 2: you go to one of those shops and they get

1099
00:51:43,693 --> 00:51:45,853
Speaker 2: you to walk on a platform and they work out,

1100
00:51:46,333 --> 00:51:47,653
Speaker 2: you know, the arch of your feet and all that

1101
00:51:47,733 --> 00:51:48,172
Speaker 2: kind of stuff.

1102
00:51:48,253 --> 00:51:51,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but that'll be good. We'll get dom on

1103
00:51:51,213 --> 00:51:54,453
Speaker 3: the show and answer all your questions a little bit later.

1104
00:51:54,853 --> 00:51:56,733
Speaker 2: If you're a one hundred and fifteen kg you do

1105
00:51:56,893 --> 00:51:59,172
Speaker 2: not want to be running or will destroy your knees,

1106
00:51:59,253 --> 00:52:00,933
Speaker 2: hips and ankles. But if you are like Matt and

1107
00:52:01,053 --> 00:52:04,812
Speaker 2: only way fifty five kg, then running is definitely for you. Mars,

1108
00:52:04,893 --> 00:52:10,733
Speaker 2: I've got I've probably got fifty five kg of pure muscle, but.

1109
00:52:10,813 --> 00:52:14,373
Speaker 3: You're definitely not fifty five kilo. No, it's a nice comple.

1110
00:52:14,853 --> 00:52:22,173
Speaker 2: Comple eighty five a lean mean beautiful eighty five to

1111
00:52:22,293 --> 00:52:22,772
Speaker 2: ninety kJ.

1112
00:52:22,933 --> 00:52:24,373
Speaker 3: You're carrying a hellium balloons.

1113
00:52:24,413 --> 00:52:27,293
Speaker 2: You might be conrad your thought on of your thoughts

1114
00:52:27,333 --> 00:52:27,733
Speaker 2: on running.

1115
00:52:28,893 --> 00:52:30,732
Speaker 23: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm one of these running I see

1116
00:52:30,813 --> 00:52:33,893
Speaker 23: running around. I'm about seventy kg, so I think, and

1117
00:52:34,453 --> 00:52:36,973
Speaker 23: the importance of shoes and stuff. I actually try and alternate,

1118
00:52:37,653 --> 00:52:40,053
Speaker 23: like it's really important to run on graphs, like this

1119
00:52:40,173 --> 00:52:43,373
Speaker 23: is what I do. I find spots in the neighborhood

1120
00:52:43,373 --> 00:52:47,333
Speaker 23: where like big parks and stuff like that where you

1121
00:52:47,413 --> 00:52:50,573
Speaker 23: can run on graphs most of the time and there's

1122
00:52:50,613 --> 00:52:52,533
Speaker 23: nothing wrong with the odd walk during it that One

1123
00:52:52,533 --> 00:52:53,933
Speaker 23: of the key things is to try and get the

1124
00:52:54,013 --> 00:52:56,333
Speaker 23: length of time you're running. For example, yesterday I was

1125
00:52:56,373 --> 00:53:00,053
Speaker 23: running for probably two and a half hours out of

1126
00:53:00,173 --> 00:53:01,692
Speaker 23: the three and a half hours I was out there,

1127
00:53:03,973 --> 00:53:06,493
Speaker 23: so what. But also if you stop or if you

1128
00:53:06,653 --> 00:53:08,173
Speaker 23: just do a bit of a stretch or something, you

1129
00:53:08,693 --> 00:53:09,853
Speaker 23: don't want to take it too long. You want to

1130
00:53:10,013 --> 00:53:11,933
Speaker 23: just like say thirty seconds or so. You don't want

1131
00:53:11,973 --> 00:53:14,252
Speaker 23: to stop, say half an hour and then say okay,

1132
00:53:14,293 --> 00:53:16,133
Speaker 23: now I'll run another hour or so. That's kind of

1133
00:53:16,253 --> 00:53:19,453
Speaker 23: like because because your whole your body's got your body's

1134
00:53:19,453 --> 00:53:22,573
Speaker 23: gotten to the tune of okay, I'm running now, and

1135
00:53:22,693 --> 00:53:24,213
Speaker 23: you want to keep that up for as as long

1136
00:53:24,213 --> 00:53:26,613
Speaker 23: as possible. And siicularly about the speed thing, like your

1137
00:53:26,773 --> 00:53:28,933
Speaker 23: previous course, you die, I don't take a watch or anything. Hey,

1138
00:53:28,973 --> 00:53:31,613
Speaker 23: I deliberately take my watch off. I kind of feel

1139
00:53:31,653 --> 00:53:35,093
Speaker 23: it as I go along, and it's like like you

1140
00:53:35,173 --> 00:53:38,293
Speaker 23: can kind of twitching and jogging, going slowly and going

1141
00:53:38,333 --> 00:53:40,893
Speaker 23: a bit faster rather than having to stop or whatever

1142
00:53:40,933 --> 00:53:43,333
Speaker 23: it is. I think you're getting in, you know, because

1143
00:53:43,333 --> 00:53:46,053
Speaker 23: the starts getting pretty tricky and about three three four

1144
00:53:46,133 --> 00:53:46,533
Speaker 23: hours in.

1145
00:53:48,093 --> 00:53:48,573
Speaker 7: Your body of.

1146
00:53:48,573 --> 00:53:51,933
Speaker 23: People saying home kids to stop. Yeah, but it's important

1147
00:53:52,013 --> 00:53:54,933
Speaker 23: that you kind of even if you just keep that

1148
00:53:55,053 --> 00:53:57,973
Speaker 23: body moving for you know, And so yeah, just sir,

1149
00:53:58,053 --> 00:54:00,093
Speaker 23: that's one of the key couple of points I want

1150
00:54:00,173 --> 00:54:02,213
Speaker 23: to make and year. I actually did you go to

1151
00:54:02,333 --> 00:54:03,613
Speaker 23: a one.

1152
00:54:03,533 --> 00:54:04,493
Speaker 7: Of the what's the weather?

1153
00:54:04,573 --> 00:54:04,813
Speaker 22: I think?

1154
00:54:04,893 --> 00:54:07,693
Speaker 23: Also, what's the word for your kind of foot specialist?

1155
00:54:07,733 --> 00:54:15,212
Speaker 23: G Yeah, that's the ONEIATI tradition pediatrician. Yeah, I think. Yeah,

1156
00:54:15,253 --> 00:54:18,533
Speaker 23: if you're going to get into running kind of as

1157
00:54:18,613 --> 00:54:20,652
Speaker 23: your kind of main kind of exercise in ten years

1158
00:54:20,693 --> 00:54:22,293
Speaker 23: or whatever, like I'd have did about ten years ago,

1159
00:54:22,293 --> 00:54:24,413
Speaker 23: and it was really really helpful because they can tell

1160
00:54:24,413 --> 00:54:26,493
Speaker 23: you about how you can run properly and you know,

1161
00:54:26,653 --> 00:54:29,652
Speaker 23: like the the arch your foot and all that kind

1162
00:54:29,653 --> 00:54:31,253
Speaker 23: of stuff. Like I got in Souls for example, to

1163
00:54:31,333 --> 00:54:35,652
Speaker 23: raise my foot book because I'm flat footed. So yeah,

1164
00:54:35,813 --> 00:54:38,493
Speaker 23: And just one thing about shoes. I like life of shoes,

1165
00:54:38,653 --> 00:54:41,213
Speaker 23: Like there's so many shoes that they are like, you know,

1166
00:54:41,293 --> 00:54:42,893
Speaker 23: if you're running for long periods of time, you know,

1167
00:54:42,973 --> 00:54:44,133
Speaker 23: hivy shoes will driving up.

1168
00:54:44,693 --> 00:54:46,773
Speaker 15: So yeah, so.

1169
00:54:46,853 --> 00:54:49,453
Speaker 2: You're talking about four about risting up. You don't see

1170
00:54:49,453 --> 00:54:51,093
Speaker 2: it as much any more. You know, people used to

1171
00:54:51,213 --> 00:54:53,252
Speaker 2: jog on the stops on the spot when they came

1172
00:54:53,333 --> 00:54:54,333
Speaker 2: to a crossing.

1173
00:54:55,613 --> 00:54:56,653
Speaker 7: Oh no, that's not me.

1174
00:54:56,773 --> 00:54:57,133
Speaker 20: I'm not that.

1175
00:54:58,613 --> 00:54:58,813
Speaker 2: Really.

1176
00:54:59,213 --> 00:55:00,653
Speaker 3: I take my head off to those people. Is like

1177
00:55:00,773 --> 00:55:01,973
Speaker 3: keep going, keep running all.

1178
00:55:03,893 --> 00:55:04,333
Speaker 23: Carn't do it.

1179
00:55:05,053 --> 00:55:06,933
Speaker 2: That's a good time to get your stretch and to

1180
00:55:07,013 --> 00:55:08,853
Speaker 2: get your stretch out your achilles.

1181
00:55:08,893 --> 00:55:11,133
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you give it. Yeah, you think your good

1182
00:55:11,213 --> 00:55:11,573
Speaker 3: use of time.

1183
00:55:11,653 --> 00:55:13,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to stretch at those points. Hey, thank

1184
00:55:13,573 --> 00:55:16,533
Speaker 2: you for your call, Conrad. I appreciate that.

1185
00:55:16,733 --> 00:55:21,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, great subject for the running gurus. Oh how

1186
00:55:21,733 --> 00:55:26,413
Speaker 3: do I stop shin splints? They are destabilizing currently using

1187
00:55:26,453 --> 00:55:29,373
Speaker 3: compression stocking. But I look like a complete idiot. So

1188
00:55:29,453 --> 00:55:31,693
Speaker 3: that's a good one to hold for dom when we

1189
00:55:31,773 --> 00:55:33,893
Speaker 3: have a chip to them in about what twenty minutes time?

1190
00:55:34,053 --> 00:55:35,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think one of the things that you

1191
00:55:35,573 --> 00:55:37,493
Speaker 2: can do that makes you running a lot better is

1192
00:55:37,693 --> 00:55:40,853
Speaker 2: try and keep your your hips in line as you're

1193
00:55:40,933 --> 00:55:43,652
Speaker 2: running along, so you're not putting undue stress on each

1194
00:55:43,773 --> 00:55:46,173
Speaker 2: league because you know, the weird thing about running is

1195
00:55:46,213 --> 00:55:47,813
Speaker 2: all your weight goes on one foot and all the

1196
00:55:48,053 --> 00:55:49,773
Speaker 2: weight goes on the other foot, as opposed to walking

1197
00:55:49,973 --> 00:55:52,413
Speaker 2: where it's split, you know, and that's why you know,

1198
00:55:52,893 --> 00:55:55,733
Speaker 2: you know, competitive walkers or is getting stung for running.

1199
00:55:56,173 --> 00:55:59,013
Speaker 2: That's when they have their hips around there. They don't

1200
00:55:59,053 --> 00:56:02,613
Speaker 2: have two feet on the ground. But yeah, there's little

1201
00:56:02,613 --> 00:56:05,973
Speaker 2: things you can do to limit your injuries. And I

1202
00:56:06,053 --> 00:56:08,133
Speaker 2: think a good thing about running when your start is

1203
00:56:08,213 --> 00:56:11,773
Speaker 2: just to let yourself run really stupidly slow. Lucy, go

1204
00:56:11,933 --> 00:56:16,853
Speaker 2: see just slow yeah, run run really slow. Alan, you're

1205
00:56:16,893 --> 00:56:17,693
Speaker 2: a big fan of running.

1206
00:56:18,853 --> 00:56:19,732
Speaker 7: Oh yeah yeah.

1207
00:56:20,253 --> 00:56:23,053
Speaker 20: Look for people that are wanting to get into running,

1208
00:56:24,773 --> 00:56:27,573
Speaker 20: go to somebody like shoe science and get your feet

1209
00:56:27,853 --> 00:56:30,893
Speaker 20: set up with the right sort of shoes. Is probably

1210
00:56:31,133 --> 00:56:33,652
Speaker 20: the best start, the best investment you can make.

1211
00:56:33,853 --> 00:56:35,293
Speaker 2: How much you reckon how much do you have to

1212
00:56:35,373 --> 00:56:38,933
Speaker 2: pay do you think as a good entry level shoe price, Ellen,

1213
00:56:41,493 --> 00:56:42,013
Speaker 2: I would.

1214
00:56:41,853 --> 00:56:43,692
Speaker 20: Have thought probably a couple of hundred bucks.

1215
00:56:43,773 --> 00:56:43,933
Speaker 2: Yep.

1216
00:56:45,773 --> 00:56:49,213
Speaker 20: That will get you something based around your gate and

1217
00:56:49,613 --> 00:56:53,453
Speaker 20: provide just concautioning and stability that you need. But the

1218
00:56:53,573 --> 00:56:56,893
Speaker 20: main thing is when you're out there running is whether

1219
00:56:56,933 --> 00:56:59,732
Speaker 20: you're quick, far, slow, young, old, it doesn't really matter.

1220
00:57:00,373 --> 00:57:05,213
Speaker 20: Mix up the terrain. If you can get onto sands

1221
00:57:06,093 --> 00:57:12,453
Speaker 20: rocks bush and perhaps not just run on the same surface,

1222
00:57:12,893 --> 00:57:15,013
Speaker 20: then you're probably not going to get as injured as

1223
00:57:15,053 --> 00:57:17,013
Speaker 20: you would be if you just ran on concrete all

1224
00:57:17,013 --> 00:57:17,293
Speaker 20: the time.

1225
00:57:17,333 --> 00:57:18,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense.

1226
00:57:18,573 --> 00:57:23,413
Speaker 20: The concrete and ashfeld the the killers for repetitive type injuries.

1227
00:57:24,933 --> 00:57:29,973
Speaker 20: But about probably twenty five years ago, the people that

1228
00:57:30,013 --> 00:57:31,573
Speaker 20: I used to run with, we went into the bush

1229
00:57:31,653 --> 00:57:35,493
Speaker 20: and so we just got into trail running and so

1230
00:57:35,813 --> 00:57:42,453
Speaker 20: no injuries, zero injuries. Running you might have the odd

1231
00:57:42,573 --> 00:57:47,973
Speaker 20: four where you scrape your knee or whatever, but trail

1232
00:57:48,053 --> 00:57:51,813
Speaker 20: running is probably the best because it builds. It builds

1233
00:57:52,773 --> 00:57:56,253
Speaker 20: so many other factors in so your balance increases, the

1234
00:57:56,333 --> 00:58:00,573
Speaker 20: strengths of your joints increase, your muscle strength increases, and

1235
00:58:00,693 --> 00:58:03,213
Speaker 20: it's fun, and you get into places where you wouldn't

1236
00:58:03,213 --> 00:58:06,693
Speaker 20: normally go, and you can do that sort of thing

1237
00:58:07,133 --> 00:58:10,733
Speaker 20: wherever you are in the world. It's probably the one

1238
00:58:10,853 --> 00:58:14,373
Speaker 20: sport that you can do anywhere. It's fantastic and it

1239
00:58:14,533 --> 00:58:15,333
Speaker 20: just costs your time.

1240
00:58:15,573 --> 00:58:17,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I've got a bunch of friends and we

1241
00:58:17,093 --> 00:58:18,853
Speaker 2: share our runs. We send them to each other, and

1242
00:58:18,933 --> 00:58:21,253
Speaker 2: you know, friends are running overseas, they'll send you the

1243
00:58:21,293 --> 00:58:23,613
Speaker 2: map they've just run and it'll be around their hotel

1244
00:58:23,653 --> 00:58:26,053
Speaker 2: where they wherever interesting places are in the world. It's

1245
00:58:26,053 --> 00:58:28,333
Speaker 2: so cool. You're exactly right. You just get out the door,

1246
00:58:28,533 --> 00:58:30,373
Speaker 2: take your running shoes with you, and then wherever you

1247
00:58:30,493 --> 00:58:33,293
Speaker 2: are you can get out the door. You know, so

1248
00:58:33,373 --> 00:58:35,653
Speaker 2: I think, but you know, you talk about injuries that

1249
00:58:35,853 --> 00:58:39,413
Speaker 2: that's the bummer when you first start running, is you

1250
00:58:39,533 --> 00:58:41,413
Speaker 2: know you've got the strategy, this plan, you're going to

1251
00:58:41,493 --> 00:58:43,973
Speaker 2: run and then immediately get injured and then you then

1252
00:58:44,013 --> 00:58:46,573
Speaker 2: you can't run. So I think you know what you're

1253
00:58:46,573 --> 00:58:48,853
Speaker 2: saying about getting the right shoes and actually you know,

1254
00:58:49,013 --> 00:58:52,173
Speaker 2: stretching and taking it slow at the start. And you

1255
00:58:52,253 --> 00:58:55,293
Speaker 2: know one thing that I'll do when I start running again,

1256
00:58:55,373 --> 00:58:56,853
Speaker 2: want to have it had a spot of not running

1257
00:58:56,853 --> 00:58:58,933
Speaker 2: as I'll get on a treadmill for a bit just

1258
00:58:58,973 --> 00:59:02,253
Speaker 2: to get my ankles going again, which does take away

1259
00:59:02,253 --> 00:59:03,573
Speaker 2: from the just running out the door. You do have

1260
00:59:03,613 --> 00:59:05,973
Speaker 2: to have a treadmill for that. Hey, thank you so

1261
00:59:06,093 --> 00:59:08,173
Speaker 2: much for your call. Ellen. This texasays, can you run

1262
00:59:08,253 --> 00:59:08,733
Speaker 2: in crocs?

1263
00:59:09,653 --> 00:59:09,853
Speaker 6: You can?

1264
00:59:10,013 --> 00:59:10,213
Speaker 4: You can?

1265
00:59:10,413 --> 00:59:12,853
Speaker 2: Yeah you can run on them good support. I don't

1266
00:59:12,853 --> 00:59:16,653
Speaker 2: think so, no, but technically can. And this other Texas says,

1267
00:59:16,733 --> 00:59:19,253
Speaker 2: I don't trust runners. They always find the bodies.

1268
00:59:19,333 --> 00:59:20,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, very true.

1269
00:59:20,173 --> 00:59:21,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, good spotting, Yeah they do.

1270
00:59:21,613 --> 00:59:23,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was always something suspicious about that.

1271
00:59:23,973 --> 00:59:25,733
Speaker 2: There's always the runners at the start of those TV

1272
00:59:25,813 --> 00:59:28,413
Speaker 2: shows that find the body. Why are you there so early? Yeah?

1273
00:59:28,493 --> 00:59:31,333
Speaker 3: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number of call.

1274
00:59:31,253 --> 00:59:34,173
Speaker 2: The runners are doing the murders. Okay, let's just be

1275
00:59:34,253 --> 00:59:34,813
Speaker 2: honest about that.

1276
00:59:35,613 --> 00:59:37,693
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

1277
00:59:37,813 --> 00:59:39,933
Speaker 3: if you're mad into running. Love to hear from yours

1278
00:59:39,973 --> 00:59:42,093
Speaker 3: at the ultimate exercise. On the back of a story

1279
00:59:42,133 --> 00:59:44,293
Speaker 3: in the NZ here all talking about this run walk

1280
00:59:44,493 --> 00:59:46,693
Speaker 3: method headlines with Susie coming up.

1281
00:59:46,693 --> 00:59:53,013
Speaker 12: Next, jus talk said the headlines with blue Bubble taxis

1282
00:59:53,093 --> 00:59:56,133
Speaker 12: it's no trouble with a blue bubble. Health New Zealand

1283
00:59:56,253 --> 01:00:00,533
Speaker 12: has confirmed an IT security breach late last year compromised

1284
01:00:00,653 --> 01:00:05,853
Speaker 12: health workers sensitive personal data, personal information and occupational health

1285
01:00:05,893 --> 01:00:09,733
Speaker 12: and safety data on current and former staff throughout the

1286
01:00:09,893 --> 01:00:12,493
Speaker 12: Capital Coast and Hunt Valley, as well as the wided

1287
01:00:12,533 --> 01:00:17,413
Speaker 12: Apple was accessed without authorization. The decline in public servants

1288
01:00:17,453 --> 01:00:20,733
Speaker 12: and numbers seems to be stalling after some sharp cuts.

1289
01:00:21,133 --> 01:00:23,853
Speaker 12: The work force shrank four point two percent the year

1290
01:00:23,893 --> 01:00:26,933
Speaker 12: to December, but rose in the December quarter by zero

1291
01:00:26,973 --> 01:00:30,773
Speaker 12: point two percent. Bull as Mayor, is reassuring people in

1292
01:00:30,893 --> 01:00:34,053
Speaker 12: Westport the town won't be suddenly picked up and moved

1293
01:00:34,453 --> 01:00:37,053
Speaker 12: and proposals to shift the flood prone town have a

1294
01:00:37,133 --> 01:00:41,373
Speaker 12: long timeline. The Ministry for Primary Industries has returned to

1295
01:00:41,453 --> 01:00:45,293
Speaker 12: having staff in a New Zealand First MP's office after

1296
01:00:45,413 --> 01:00:50,253
Speaker 12: workers were pulled following complaints. Auckland's that closed Western Springs

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Speaker 12: Speedway is selling off its safety fence and race control lights.

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Speaker 12: On trade Me the Farmer, ending the awkwardness of borrowing

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Speaker 12: from the bank of Mum and Dad. You can read

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Speaker 12: more about that story at Enzied Herald Premium. Now back

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Speaker 12: to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Susan. We're talking about running is

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Speaker 3: a form of exercise? Is it the ultimate form of exercise?

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Speaker 3: On the back of a story in the New Zealand

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Speaker 3: Herald on the science behind the run walk method, they

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Speaker 3: call it a lot of fascinating science that if you

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Speaker 3: are trying to get into running or you want to

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Speaker 3: be a better runner, that is an incredibly effective method

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Speaker 3: according to some scientists.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it could be an effective method, but

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Speaker 2: for me it sounds weak. I reckon, if you're running,

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Speaker 2: you're running. If you're run walking, then you've run walked.

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Speaker 2: You haven't been for a run. You can't say I've

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Speaker 2: run ten k if you walked half of it. You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've gotta be honest with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this text interesting And hey guys, a one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty dollar a pair of new balanced hues from

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Speaker 2: Rebel Sport and a thirty dollars smart watch and ten

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Speaker 2: dollars bluetooth headphones off Temo and you're good to go.

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Speaker 2: Ben so he reckons you can get it all going

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Speaker 2: for under two hundred dollars what you need. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: you know, I like to raw dog my runs with

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Speaker 2: no headphones, just just concentrate on my breathing.

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Speaker 21: Just quote.

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Speaker 2: Yeah nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds fun to listen to if you're running

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Speaker 3: with you on the There was this trend and maybe

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Speaker 3: we put this to Dom at the end of this hour,

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Speaker 3: but the trend about almost like barefoot running. It's not

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Speaker 3: quite but you know, Nike brought out these shoes they

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Speaker 3: called them that that what are the almost like socks?

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Speaker 2: Are they the ones with the toes?

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Speaker 21: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: They are an abomination that can't be good for you,

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Speaker 2: that makes other people vomit. Yeah, you should get tased

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Speaker 2: if you use that. Yeah, because we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: to Dom Harvey, author of Running a Love Story, and

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Speaker 2: he can answer a bunch of your running questions coming

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Speaker 2: up before the end of the hour. Hi, guys. Running

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Speaker 2: certainly has great health fitness benefits, but in my experience,

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Speaker 2: rowing is far more beneficial. Most New Zealand towns, certainly

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Speaker 2: cities have rowing clubs. Single skulls exempted, double sculls, fours

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Speaker 2: and eights develop unmatched mental acuity. A rowing skiff simply

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Speaker 2: won't work to max efficiency unless all the rowers are

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Speaker 2: in the tune and sync with each other. Brains not brawn.

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting take on rowing. One of my sons

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Speaker 2: did rowing right through school and it was a fantastic

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Speaker 2: sport in terms of the teamwork and the discipline that's

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Speaker 2: involved in it. Rowing is just such a fantastic sports,

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Speaker 2: super fat. You know, running you used to have to

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Speaker 2: go at the door and run. You don't need a

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Speaker 2: full boat or somewhere to row it exactly, Ken, how

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Speaker 2: are you very good? Thank you?

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Speaker 19: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Well?

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Speaker 22: Walking running walking running walking running.

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Speaker 24: Is called scouts pace scout if you're a scouter, scouts pace.

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Speaker 24: If you're an ex scout where they're like I am,

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Speaker 24: then you find that the boys could cover twice the distance.

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Speaker 2: And a half the time, So twice the distance so

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Speaker 2: as opposed to just running the whole way, they get

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Speaker 2: there actually quicker. Interesting, they're quick.

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Speaker 24: They're quicker.

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Speaker 22: A lot of the times we used to because I

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Speaker 22: come from way down South and we used to do

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Speaker 22: long hikes through the mountains and that sort of thing.

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Speaker 22: And the guy talking about running through the bush, she's

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Speaker 22: dead right. Your angles, your ankles are stronger, your knees

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Speaker 22: are stronger, your hips are stronger because you aren't landing

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Speaker 22: on the same level of flat surface.

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Speaker 25: All the time.

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Speaker 2: I think you cool ken. Yeah, so scout out running.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of scouts around. Scouts were great. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we need to bring back scouts.

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Speaker 3: You're a scouts, a scout. Yeah. How many badges did

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Speaker 3: you get? You got most of them.

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Speaker 2: I got whacked with a badge for climbing up the

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Speaker 2: climbing rope and undoing it at the top and then

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Speaker 2: falling down.

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Speaker 3: You got a badge for that?

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Speaker 2: No, I got it whacked with a badge.

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Speaker 3: As you should be. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call some great texts coming

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Speaker 3: through this one, guys. A kilo of fat is nine

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Speaker 3: thousand calories. We beck from there. If your fat loss

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Speaker 3: is your goal, running can be effective, but diet's important too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the thing. Yeah, I mean, running

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01:04:56,733 --> 01:04:59,413
Speaker 2: will not make you lose weight, but it's handy to

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Speaker 2: lose weight if you want to run, because if you're

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01:05:02,053 --> 01:05:03,693
Speaker 2: you know, you just think about it. If you're carrying

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Speaker 2: an extra ten kgs of weight on you and you're

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01:05:07,013 --> 01:05:09,933
Speaker 2: trying to run a long distance, it's like carrying just

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Speaker 2: in your arms ten gaugees of butter. Yeah, it's a

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01:05:12,733 --> 01:05:16,013
Speaker 2: lot to carry around. So you know, running may not

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Speaker 2: lose you as much weight as people used to think

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Speaker 2: it does, but it will motivate you to lose weight

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Speaker 2: because it makes the running a lot easier.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, Bob. How are you?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Greg mate? How you all doing today?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Good? So are you a runner yourself?

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Speaker 13: Not anymore? I'm maybe two years old, but I still

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01:05:36,093 --> 01:05:41,293
Speaker 13: get around pretty good. But what I am concerned about

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Speaker 13: is I love to see people running, but living in

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Speaker 13: the Awfland area where I live, the big problem for

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Speaker 13: me is that they are a good life cyclists. They

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Speaker 13: tend to think that they own the highway and if

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Speaker 13: they want across the road in front of you, they'll

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Speaker 13: do it at lights or whatever. They sham come out

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Speaker 13: of nowhere and they expect you to dodge around them. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yea, I'm a bit guilty of that, bob, because I

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Speaker 2: don't want to stop, so I'll just I'll just end

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Speaker 2: up running down of the true Yeah, and I feel

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Speaker 2: bad about it, but I'll just run down the center

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Speaker 2: of the road. And you know, if I'm running towards

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Speaker 2: people that are walking, especially if they're not because I

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01:06:21,653 --> 01:06:24,253
Speaker 2: hug the left, and if there's people walking on the

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Speaker 2: right towards me, I'm like, no, the left is the

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Speaker 2: way to go. We're a left hand side of the

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Speaker 2: road country. Yeah, so I'll just plow through people.

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Speaker 3: That's a tasering. Yeah, that's a tasering from me. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: all right, just plowing through. I mean, I agree with

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Speaker 3: you on the left, but come on, just slow down

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01:06:40,413 --> 01:06:42,853
Speaker 3: a little bit, mate, to slow down. You're not forest gum.

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Speaker 2: No, I'll plow through. I'm not twenty or thirty tourists

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Speaker 2: out of the way a bit because they're on the

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Speaker 2: wrong rest.

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Speaker 3: It's in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Left side of the road.

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call. Will take a quick break and then come

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Speaker 3: back with some more of your calls. An text as well.

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Speaker 3: It is nineteen to three.

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Speaker 1: You're new home of Afternoon Matt and Taylor Afternoons with

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Speaker 1: the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into something special.

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Speaker 4: Call eight hundred eighty news Talk.

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Speaker 3: Said, be afternoon, and we're talking about running. Is it

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Speaker 3: the ultimate exercise? On the back of a great story

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01:07:23,293 --> 01:07:25,493
Speaker 3: in the New Zealand Herald about what they call in

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01:07:25,573 --> 01:07:28,213
Speaker 3: the run walk method not entirely new, but new science

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01:07:28,293 --> 01:07:31,093
Speaker 3: behind it, so they say, in terms of being a

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01:07:31,133 --> 01:07:33,133
Speaker 3: better runner, quick text here before we go back to

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01:07:33,133 --> 01:07:35,853
Speaker 3: the phone calls cil it a fellas great topic. I

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01:07:36,013 --> 01:07:39,413
Speaker 3: run ten k every other day, up, down and around

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Speaker 3: Mount Victoria in the wonderful Wellington. I love it. Good

1447
01:07:42,693 --> 01:07:46,053
Speaker 3: for your health, sleep, diet and head. Top tip, get

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01:07:46,133 --> 01:07:49,013
Speaker 3: one of those rubber bands from Rebel and stretch those

1449
01:07:49,093 --> 01:07:52,693
Speaker 3: hammis and strengthen your knees and hips. Running ain't for everyone,

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Speaker 3: but it is important to find out what makes you happy.

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Speaker 2: Go well, yeah, I think that's the thing. When you

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01:07:57,373 --> 01:07:59,173
Speaker 2: start running, you have to think about it. You've got

1453
01:07:59,253 --> 01:08:00,973
Speaker 2: to stretch. You got to look up a few things,

1454
01:08:01,013 --> 01:08:03,733
Speaker 2: look up a few stretches, stretch out that achilles. You

1455
01:08:03,813 --> 01:08:07,413
Speaker 2: get it. And you've also I think doing a weight

1456
01:08:07,533 --> 01:08:09,773
Speaker 2: exercise as well, you know, and looking out what the

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01:08:09,813 --> 01:08:13,173
Speaker 2: best muscles are, because your posteria is very important. You glutes,

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01:08:13,213 --> 01:08:15,373
Speaker 2: your butt. Your butt is what keeps.

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01:08:15,173 --> 01:08:19,372
Speaker 3: Your keeps you you like, even keeps your haap straight.

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01:08:19,452 --> 01:08:21,973
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, you want to do some lunges. Yep, you

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01:08:22,053 --> 01:08:24,892
Speaker 2: want to do some squats, you know. Yeah, someone will

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Speaker 2: probably some person as you know something about fitness, will

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Speaker 2: now text in and say that's the biggest lad of

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Speaker 2: rubbish ever. But blots are important. Yeah, you get your

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Speaker 2: butt's important.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call.

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Speaker 2: This, Texas says, Yep, Tyler's right. Run on the road,

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Speaker 2: get tasted.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I told you. Chris. How are you

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Speaker 3: this afternoon?

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Speaker 26: Very well, Thanks guys, great show.

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Speaker 7: Love listening to you.

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01:08:51,732 --> 01:08:52,293
Speaker 3: I thank you, mate.

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Speaker 7: Number one.

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Speaker 26: Read the book Born to Run by Chris McDougall.

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01:08:56,692 --> 01:08:58,452
Speaker 3: I've heard about it an app.

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01:08:58,732 --> 01:09:02,093
Speaker 26: It's an inspiration. I read it probably every two years

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01:09:02,572 --> 01:09:05,452
Speaker 26: because it just reinvigorates me. It's fabulous and it's a

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01:09:05,572 --> 01:09:09,652
Speaker 26: meandering story about the history of running right back to

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Speaker 26: prehistoric man. And one of the topics you touched on

1482
01:09:13,372 --> 01:09:17,892
Speaker 26: that he covers is barefoot running and the greatest incident,

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01:09:17,973 --> 01:09:21,093
Speaker 26: the greatest increase in running injuries came about with the

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Speaker 26: modern running shoe.

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Speaker 7: Amount of.

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Speaker 26: The amount of cushioning stops the body adjusting. Because everyone's

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01:09:29,452 --> 01:09:33,093
Speaker 26: got different shaped feet, so our body automatically adjusts when

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01:09:33,133 --> 01:09:36,933
Speaker 26: it hits the ground to allow for the variants in

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Speaker 26: our feet. The cushioning of the running shoe stops that happening.

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Speaker 26: And as I said, when they first introduced the running shoe,

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Speaker 26: there was a massive increase in running injuries, which they

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Speaker 26: theorized was caused by that. The other big thing for

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01:09:50,293 --> 01:09:52,452
Speaker 26: me is I've been a running all my life. Is now,

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Speaker 26: as I'm getting us slightly older, I'm cross training and

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01:09:56,572 --> 01:09:59,692
Speaker 26: I'm doing a lot of cycling, and I've had knee issues.

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Speaker 26: I've had achilles issues and had calf issues. The cycling

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Speaker 26: has just made a massive improvement my knees. I get

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Speaker 26: no knee knee issues whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: Cycling and running, you're saying, you're cycling and running. Yeah. Hey,

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Speaker 2: so when you say the barefoot running, you're not talking

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Speaker 2: about those humiliating toe shoes, are you.

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01:10:18,933 --> 01:10:21,052
Speaker 26: Well, the toe shoes are there to protect your feet

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01:10:21,133 --> 01:10:26,652
Speaker 26: against being cut or you know, against glass, and that's

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Speaker 26: why they were introduced, so that you could essentially run

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Speaker 26: be a foot, but you your foot was protected against

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Speaker 26: modern stones.

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Speaker 2: And some reason, just looking at those makes me gag.

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Speaker 2: There's something about them. It's very very disturbing. So but

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Speaker 2: you know, but I would be would be open to

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Speaker 2: who was it?

1511
01:10:45,173 --> 01:10:45,293
Speaker 12: Was it?

1512
01:10:45,372 --> 01:10:48,812
Speaker 2: Lolla bud was was what her name? The runner? She

1513
01:10:48,933 --> 01:10:52,692
Speaker 2: ran barefoot, ran on the track? Yeah, so she must

1514
01:10:53,013 --> 01:10:55,892
Speaker 2: really kill us in the Olympics. Yeah, that's right. How

1515
01:10:55,933 --> 01:10:56,412
Speaker 2: cool was that?

1516
01:10:56,692 --> 01:10:56,892
Speaker 19: Yeah?

1517
01:10:57,093 --> 01:10:58,772
Speaker 2: But I mean I guess if you want, if you

1518
01:10:58,812 --> 01:11:02,213
Speaker 2: want to start running barefoot, then you know around the park,

1519
01:11:02,293 --> 01:11:03,532
Speaker 2: you know, on the grass would be the way to

1520
01:11:03,532 --> 01:11:04,452
Speaker 2: go and do it on the grass.

1521
01:11:04,492 --> 01:11:06,893
Speaker 26: Yeah, I go down to my local football club and

1522
01:11:06,973 --> 01:11:08,253
Speaker 26: I used to do a lot of it and it

1523
01:11:08,772 --> 01:11:13,213
Speaker 26: was good. But I mean everyone's different. So basically, find

1524
01:11:13,293 --> 01:11:16,973
Speaker 26: the niche for you. And trail running I love, you know,

1525
01:11:17,053 --> 01:11:19,333
Speaker 26: the walk run walk, great transition if you have an

1526
01:11:19,333 --> 01:11:21,053
Speaker 26: exercise for a while and you want to get back

1527
01:11:21,093 --> 01:11:23,572
Speaker 26: into your running and you're getting frustrated because you can't

1528
01:11:23,612 --> 01:11:25,652
Speaker 26: go out and do a five k run straight away

1529
01:11:25,732 --> 01:11:28,372
Speaker 26: like you used to do. So, as I said, it's

1530
01:11:28,452 --> 01:11:33,372
Speaker 26: just finding the best method for yourself. And the other

1531
01:11:33,452 --> 01:11:35,253
Speaker 26: big plus for me as I joined the Auckland Way

1532
01:11:35,333 --> 01:11:38,652
Speaker 26: MCA Marathon Club and that was absolutely brilliant. The social

1533
01:11:38,772 --> 01:11:41,933
Speaker 26: network and the friends I made thirty years ago I

1534
01:11:42,053 --> 01:11:45,812
Speaker 26: still have and we've all drifted off into different parts

1535
01:11:45,853 --> 01:11:49,293
Speaker 26: of New Zealand. But running in a group and getting

1536
01:11:49,372 --> 01:11:53,812
Speaker 26: into a some some group like that, you just gained

1537
01:11:53,933 --> 01:11:56,732
Speaker 26: so much knowledge because when I started, you know, there

1538
01:11:56,772 --> 01:11:58,893
Speaker 26: were people that had done twenty and thirty marathons, so

1539
01:11:59,452 --> 01:12:02,893
Speaker 26: you could take all their experience and learn and not

1540
01:12:03,093 --> 01:12:06,892
Speaker 26: make all those mistakes yourself, which made it so much

1541
01:12:06,933 --> 01:12:09,852
Speaker 26: more enjoyable. And there's nothing better than being out for

1542
01:12:09,933 --> 01:12:13,053
Speaker 26: a run and chatting to your mates and finishing your run,

1543
01:12:13,253 --> 01:12:17,092
Speaker 26: maybe having a beverage afterwards. You know, the social aspect

1544
01:12:17,372 --> 01:12:21,932
Speaker 26: combined with the physical fitness, I just founded a brilliant combination.

1545
01:12:22,133 --> 01:12:24,293
Speaker 7: So yeah, anyway, keep it up.

1546
01:12:24,372 --> 01:12:31,973
Speaker 2: How many marathonswhow I've done twenty two fives. I've got

1547
01:12:32,013 --> 01:12:33,452
Speaker 2: my first one this year at the end of the

1548
01:12:33,532 --> 01:12:37,213
Speaker 2: year and booked in for the Queenstown Marathon. Oh that's brilliant.

1549
01:12:37,253 --> 01:12:39,452
Speaker 2: I'm on my training, I've got I've got a regimended

1550
01:12:39,492 --> 01:12:41,572
Speaker 2: training thing and I'm been very careful not to injure

1551
01:12:41,612 --> 01:12:43,492
Speaker 2: myself because I just want to keep training slightly.

1552
01:12:43,732 --> 01:12:46,253
Speaker 26: I get there, don't go out, don't go out too fast,

1553
01:12:47,492 --> 01:12:50,692
Speaker 26: and enjoy the journey. There's another really good boy always

1554
01:12:50,772 --> 01:12:53,333
Speaker 26: using It's called the self coach runner, and that gives

1555
01:12:53,372 --> 01:12:55,852
Speaker 26: you a really good detailed program. But I'm sure the

1556
01:12:55,933 --> 01:12:57,972
Speaker 26: clubs and everything, the AUK and why I'm say was brilliant.

1557
01:12:57,973 --> 01:12:59,532
Speaker 26: We used to go out into a twenty mile run

1558
01:13:00,053 --> 01:13:02,013
Speaker 26: and we used to train it. I think when I

1559
01:13:02,053 --> 01:13:03,492
Speaker 26: first started, it was eight and a half minute mile

1560
01:13:03,572 --> 01:13:06,293
Speaker 26: pace and they had all the lamp posts marked or

1561
01:13:06,372 --> 01:13:09,013
Speaker 26: somewhere marked. And these guys they were take you through

1562
01:13:09,093 --> 01:13:11,013
Speaker 26: and if you're aiming for eight and a half, they

1563
01:13:11,053 --> 01:13:13,173
Speaker 26: get off shit eight twenty nine, sorry guys, or you

1564
01:13:13,293 --> 01:13:14,372
Speaker 26: do the next one eight thirty one.

1565
01:13:14,452 --> 01:13:14,972
Speaker 2: Oh sorry.

1566
01:13:15,253 --> 01:13:16,693
Speaker 26: And that was uphill Downdale.

1567
01:13:16,853 --> 01:13:17,213
Speaker 2: Everything.

1568
01:13:17,572 --> 01:13:21,053
Speaker 26: They were absolute just magicians they but it was the

1569
01:13:21,093 --> 01:13:24,053
Speaker 26: best way. And yeah, they our long slow runs. Our

1570
01:13:24,213 --> 01:13:27,372
Speaker 26: lsd were always done around a minute slower than your

1571
01:13:27,452 --> 01:13:30,253
Speaker 26: race pace. And then we'd go and do ten k's

1572
01:13:30,372 --> 01:13:32,333
Speaker 26: and they were done faster than the race pace.

1573
01:13:32,652 --> 01:13:34,333
Speaker 7: Did you say being as you built?

1574
01:13:34,812 --> 01:13:37,692
Speaker 2: Sorry? Did you say on LSD should be did you

1575
01:13:37,732 --> 01:13:39,532
Speaker 2: say on LSD or at LSD.

1576
01:13:40,732 --> 01:13:40,772
Speaker 23: No.

1577
01:13:40,973 --> 01:13:46,253
Speaker 26: On LSD, LSD stood for long slow, just the horror, right, okay, okay,

1578
01:13:46,333 --> 01:13:47,412
Speaker 26: that makes more sense for us.

1579
01:13:47,812 --> 01:13:49,573
Speaker 2: Not the drug, not the drug.

1580
01:13:51,812 --> 01:13:52,532
Speaker 3: That enhancement.

1581
01:13:52,652 --> 01:13:56,812
Speaker 2: So sorry I interrupted with my mishearing there. But so

1582
01:13:57,893 --> 01:14:00,133
Speaker 2: were we're saying, like the indival You were saying something

1583
01:14:00,213 --> 01:14:01,293
Speaker 2: that I when I interrupted there.

1584
01:14:01,333 --> 01:14:05,052
Speaker 26: Sorry, Oh sorry, So your long runs should be between

1585
01:14:05,133 --> 01:14:07,813
Speaker 26: a half minute and a minute slower than your anticipated

1586
01:14:07,933 --> 01:14:10,892
Speaker 26: race pace, right, and your short runs, so you should

1587
01:14:10,933 --> 01:14:13,412
Speaker 26: do one short fast run a week, which should be

1588
01:14:13,492 --> 01:14:15,253
Speaker 26: about half a minute faster than.

1589
01:14:15,213 --> 01:14:15,892
Speaker 7: Your race pace.

1590
01:14:16,053 --> 01:14:19,532
Speaker 26: Okay, yeah, And the theory behind that is that your

1591
01:14:19,612 --> 01:14:22,293
Speaker 26: long runs build up your endurance and the fast runs

1592
01:14:22,333 --> 01:14:24,492
Speaker 26: build up your speed, so that when you come to

1593
01:14:24,612 --> 01:14:29,293
Speaker 26: your race, you will actually run at a level between

1594
01:14:29,372 --> 01:14:29,772
Speaker 26: those two.

1595
01:14:30,293 --> 01:14:33,333
Speaker 2: Brilliant. Thank you so much for that information, Chris.

1596
01:14:33,572 --> 01:14:35,612
Speaker 3: It was great. Twenty two marathons and I think you

1597
01:14:35,692 --> 01:14:36,973
Speaker 3: said five ultras.

1598
01:14:36,812 --> 01:14:38,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was and the whole time on LSD

1599
01:14:38,772 --> 01:14:43,052
Speaker 2: that's quite not necessarily were you running? Are you actually running?

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01:14:43,133 --> 01:14:43,333
Speaker 19: Yeah?

1601
01:14:43,732 --> 01:14:45,972
Speaker 3: And just on those barefoot shoes. I get what he's saying,

1602
01:14:46,013 --> 01:14:49,013
Speaker 3: and I'm interested to read that book, but I think

1603
01:14:49,013 --> 01:14:50,852
Speaker 3: I'd rather just get a knee injury, to be honest.

1604
01:14:51,173 --> 01:14:54,532
Speaker 3: Pretty pretty awful shoes, aren't they. Shoes?

1605
01:14:55,452 --> 01:14:57,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it'd be interesting just to start. You know,

1606
01:14:57,732 --> 01:14:59,133
Speaker 2: you do see some people that wear them around all

1607
01:14:59,173 --> 01:15:01,613
Speaker 2: the time, and there is good science behind them, absolutely,

1608
01:15:01,692 --> 01:15:04,053
Speaker 2: because you know it's crazy that we weig you have

1609
01:15:04,213 --> 01:15:06,333
Speaker 2: feet into these shoes. I mean, look at case you go.

1610
01:15:06,893 --> 01:15:10,173
Speaker 2: But but yeah, the people that you see, I mean,

1611
01:15:10,213 --> 01:15:12,253
Speaker 2: if you try, if you go to a job interview

1612
01:15:12,492 --> 01:15:17,333
Speaker 2: and some barefoot shows with the toes, you're not getting

1613
01:15:17,372 --> 01:15:19,133
Speaker 2: that job. You're not getting that job.

1614
01:15:19,133 --> 01:15:21,293
Speaker 3: You're not even getting a word. Oh, one hundred and

1615
01:15:21,372 --> 01:15:23,772
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. It is nine to three.

1616
01:15:25,133 --> 01:15:27,532
Speaker 4: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1617
01:15:27,572 --> 01:15:28,173
Speaker 4: along the way.

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01:15:28,452 --> 01:15:32,372
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety Innovation,

1619
01:15:32,612 --> 01:15:33,612
Speaker 1: Style and Design.

1620
01:15:33,772 --> 01:15:35,492
Speaker 4: Have it All News talk ed B.

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01:15:36,572 --> 01:15:39,293
Speaker 3: News Talk zed B, and we are talking about running

1622
01:15:39,372 --> 01:15:41,572
Speaker 3: is at the ultimate exercise on the back of some

1623
01:15:41,692 --> 01:15:45,333
Speaker 3: new research on what they're calling the run walk method. Maverick,

1624
01:15:45,492 --> 01:15:45,933
Speaker 3: you love it.

1625
01:15:47,452 --> 01:15:51,813
Speaker 25: I love running. The freedom, the fresh air, the grounding,

1626
01:15:52,692 --> 01:15:56,333
Speaker 25: get away from all the stress in your family's life.

1627
01:15:56,612 --> 01:15:57,652
Speaker 25: It's just amazing.

1628
01:15:59,293 --> 01:16:02,772
Speaker 2: Do you love the running? Do you love the run after,

1629
01:16:03,293 --> 01:16:06,692
Speaker 2: during and before? Or is it during and after or

1630
01:16:08,692 --> 01:16:12,173
Speaker 2: you know, you know what I'm saying, but I'm already yeah.

1631
01:16:13,253 --> 01:16:14,972
Speaker 27: I just love being out in the fresh.

1632
01:16:14,812 --> 01:16:17,652
Speaker 25: Air and running through bush. Running on the road, you know,

1633
01:16:18,053 --> 01:16:21,053
Speaker 25: it's not not as good, not as satisfying, But if

1634
01:16:21,053 --> 01:16:22,652
Speaker 25: you're run along the beach or the bush, you know,

1635
01:16:22,772 --> 01:16:25,812
Speaker 25: it's just a different world that lot of people don't

1636
01:16:25,853 --> 01:16:29,253
Speaker 25: have time to sample anymore. I ran my first marathon

1637
01:16:29,333 --> 01:16:32,772
Speaker 25: in nineteen eighty two. It was a sitch a marathon.

1638
01:16:32,853 --> 01:16:36,652
Speaker 25: I was exactly thirty years old. So I'm, you know,

1639
01:16:37,253 --> 01:16:39,412
Speaker 25: work it out on seventy two. Now it's coming on

1640
01:16:39,492 --> 01:16:42,572
Speaker 25: seventy three. And I did it for one reason. And

1641
01:16:42,692 --> 01:16:46,572
Speaker 25: you won't believe this, it's so dumb. So Corny made

1642
01:16:46,612 --> 01:16:50,772
Speaker 25: an Australian boss at the time, living in Auckland, and

1643
01:16:50,893 --> 01:16:53,852
Speaker 25: so is he and he and I never really got on.

1644
01:16:54,053 --> 01:16:56,972
Speaker 25: And he said you'll never ever run a marathon.

1645
01:16:57,013 --> 01:16:57,772
Speaker 2: I said why not?

1646
01:16:58,372 --> 01:16:59,412
Speaker 19: He said, you're not good for it.

1647
01:17:00,013 --> 01:17:02,812
Speaker 25: I said, well you want to put some money on it, Yes,

1648
01:17:04,333 --> 01:17:08,213
Speaker 25: I've got ten bucks on it. Ten bucks. And I

1649
01:17:08,452 --> 01:17:11,132
Speaker 25: completed the marathon in four hours and twenty three minutes

1650
01:17:11,732 --> 01:17:15,253
Speaker 25: and I had great pleasure and taking the ten backs

1651
01:17:15,293 --> 01:17:16,933
Speaker 25: off in Australian I beat you.

1652
01:17:17,053 --> 01:17:17,772
Speaker 3: Then, well done.

1653
01:17:18,692 --> 01:17:23,692
Speaker 2: That's great motivation. That's fantastic motivation. Show them eighty two. Yeah,

1654
01:17:23,772 --> 01:17:25,972
Speaker 2: when did jogging start? So eighty two is quite early

1655
01:17:26,053 --> 01:17:28,333
Speaker 2: on to be running marathons, isn't. It's a good point.

1656
01:17:28,412 --> 01:17:32,093
Speaker 3: Jogging kind of originated in the what mid eighties? Right,

1657
01:17:32,213 --> 01:17:34,132
Speaker 3: couple of texts to the news.

1658
01:17:34,372 --> 01:17:36,253
Speaker 2: The text so I agree with one hundred percent, and

1659
01:17:36,572 --> 01:17:39,732
Speaker 2: it's the lying to yourself to make yourself run. So

1660
01:17:39,893 --> 01:17:41,213
Speaker 2: what you do is, if you don't want to go

1661
01:17:41,293 --> 01:17:43,852
Speaker 2: for the run, you say to yourself, Yep, I'm just

1662
01:17:43,893 --> 01:17:45,973
Speaker 2: gonna run three k. I'm just gonna run three k.

1663
01:17:46,173 --> 01:17:47,732
Speaker 2: I'll just get out the door and I'll start running

1664
01:17:47,732 --> 01:17:49,492
Speaker 2: and I'll run three k. And then when you get

1665
01:17:49,532 --> 01:17:52,133
Speaker 2: to three k you go, aha, sucked in, we're running

1666
01:17:52,133 --> 01:17:55,492
Speaker 2: ten k and you keep running, but you've already started running,

1667
01:17:55,933 --> 01:18:00,293
Speaker 2: so you've just it's a weird sort of psycho split

1668
01:18:00,412 --> 01:18:03,093
Speaker 2: personality thing. But you can lie to yourself to get

1669
01:18:03,133 --> 01:18:06,972
Speaker 2: out the door and then you go it was soccer sucker,

1670
01:18:07,253 --> 01:18:10,253
Speaker 2: we go a mess, idiot.

1671
01:18:10,692 --> 01:18:13,293
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for that. Really enjoyed the phone

1672
01:18:13,333 --> 01:18:16,092
Speaker 3: calls and the ticks on that one. Coming up after

1673
01:18:16,333 --> 01:18:18,412
Speaker 3: three o'clock, we want to talk about the best pub

1674
01:18:18,492 --> 01:18:19,052
Speaker 3: in New Zealand.

1675
01:18:19,173 --> 01:18:22,652
Speaker 2: That's right, We're going from running to the pub in

1676
01:18:22,732 --> 01:18:25,333
Speaker 2: New Zealand's best Guestro pub News coming up.

1677
01:18:26,372 --> 01:18:29,692
Speaker 4: Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk.

1678
01:18:29,853 --> 01:18:34,133
Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo XC

1679
01:18:34,333 --> 01:18:35,532
Speaker 1: nighty on News Talk.

1680
01:18:35,652 --> 01:18:35,932
Speaker 4: SEV.

1681
01:18:38,732 --> 01:18:42,412
Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you, Welcome back into the program seeven

1682
01:18:42,572 --> 01:18:44,973
Speaker 3: pass three. Great to have your company as always. So

1683
01:18:45,053 --> 01:18:48,012
Speaker 3: let's have a chat about the greatest pubs in the country.

1684
01:18:48,093 --> 01:18:51,092
Speaker 3: The Top fifty New Zealand Gestro Pub Awards were held

1685
01:18:51,612 --> 01:18:55,852
Speaker 3: last night and the Supreme Champion was awarded to The

1686
01:18:56,053 --> 01:18:59,852
Speaker 3: Fat Duck in Tiano, beautiful part of the country. So

1687
01:18:59,973 --> 01:19:02,732
Speaker 3: to chat about what makes a great pub, we're joined

1688
01:19:02,772 --> 01:19:05,572
Speaker 3: by one of the owners of the Fat Duck. Selena writes,

1689
01:19:05,692 --> 01:19:07,093
Speaker 3: good afternoon, Selena.

1690
01:19:07,812 --> 01:19:09,412
Speaker 28: Hi, how are you doing today?

1691
01:19:10,093 --> 01:19:12,732
Speaker 2: Fantastic? What makes your Fat Duck so good?

1692
01:19:14,652 --> 01:19:17,253
Speaker 29: I think that what makes us Fat Duck so good

1693
01:19:17,973 --> 01:19:20,293
Speaker 29: is it's got to be all about the team. We've

1694
01:19:20,293 --> 01:19:24,293
Speaker 29: got this amazing team of people who are really passionate

1695
01:19:24,372 --> 01:19:27,412
Speaker 29: about what they do. It's not just the food, it's

1696
01:19:27,492 --> 01:19:31,372
Speaker 29: the hospitality. They care about each other, they care about

1697
01:19:31,372 --> 01:19:34,293
Speaker 29: the community, and yeah, I think that's all part of

1698
01:19:34,412 --> 01:19:38,492
Speaker 29: what makes makes us the best guest strop Hub brilliant.

1699
01:19:38,532 --> 01:19:40,412
Speaker 2: And where did the name fat Duck come from?

1700
01:19:41,572 --> 01:19:41,692
Speaker 16: Oh?

1701
01:19:41,772 --> 01:19:43,612
Speaker 29: My gosh, Oh, We're perfectly honest with you.

1702
01:19:43,812 --> 01:19:44,372
Speaker 25: I don't know.

1703
01:19:46,692 --> 01:19:49,452
Speaker 29: We actually we purchased Cam and I have owned the

1704
01:19:49,492 --> 01:19:52,812
Speaker 29: restaurant for nine years, and when we purchased it, it

1705
01:19:52,893 --> 01:19:55,772
Speaker 29: already had that name, So we can't take credit for

1706
01:19:55,812 --> 01:19:56,053
Speaker 29: the name.

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01:19:56,093 --> 01:19:56,572
Speaker 30: I'm afraid.

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01:19:56,652 --> 01:19:58,652
Speaker 2: Well, you didn't ask, you know, you didn't know. We're

1709
01:19:58,692 --> 01:20:00,653
Speaker 2: just buying this part. We're signing the papers.

1710
01:20:02,853 --> 01:20:03,612
Speaker 29: We really should have.

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01:20:03,732 --> 01:20:05,852
Speaker 2: Well, well, it makes me hungry the name for it.

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01:20:05,893 --> 01:20:08,333
Speaker 2: But anyway, not a huge population in ta now Life.

1713
01:20:08,532 --> 01:20:10,892
Speaker 2: What is it three thousand people? Is it mainly locals

1714
01:20:10,933 --> 01:20:13,212
Speaker 2: that come into to your pup or is it tourists.

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01:20:14,692 --> 01:20:18,772
Speaker 29: We're a really touristy town, so we're the gateway through

1716
01:20:18,812 --> 01:20:22,093
Speaker 29: to Milford Sound and Doubtful Sounds. So in summer we

1717
01:20:22,213 --> 01:20:25,052
Speaker 29: do the town does have a massive influx of tourists

1718
01:20:25,692 --> 01:20:29,053
Speaker 29: and that would be our main clientw But yeah, through

1719
01:20:29,133 --> 01:20:31,612
Speaker 29: winter when the tourists have gone, we do have quite

1720
01:20:31,612 --> 01:20:34,412
Speaker 29: a few locals come through and we always love to

1721
01:20:34,452 --> 01:20:37,333
Speaker 29: see the locals come out. Quite often they'll avoid coming

1722
01:20:37,372 --> 01:20:40,053
Speaker 29: out in summer and winter's kind of the time to

1723
01:20:40,452 --> 01:20:41,213
Speaker 29: come and have a meal.

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01:20:41,933 --> 01:20:44,372
Speaker 2: Tell us about the process process that you went through

1725
01:20:44,652 --> 01:20:46,092
Speaker 2: to win this prize.

1726
01:20:47,452 --> 01:20:52,693
Speaker 29: So they open up applications. So we put in our application,

1727
01:20:53,692 --> 01:20:57,293
Speaker 29: we have descriptions, we submit menus, and then there are

1728
01:20:57,412 --> 01:21:00,972
Speaker 29: four judges that are judging the competition and they look

1729
01:21:00,973 --> 01:21:03,452
Speaker 29: at their application, they look at their menus, they look

1730
01:21:03,452 --> 01:21:06,012
Speaker 29: at their reviews. They have a sort of a whole

1731
01:21:06,013 --> 01:21:08,572
Speaker 29: bunch of criteria that they look at, and then from

1732
01:21:08,652 --> 01:21:11,813
Speaker 29: there they narrow it down to the fifty best guestropubs

1733
01:21:11,853 --> 01:21:16,572
Speaker 29: in New Zealand, and then from there they award regional

1734
01:21:16,612 --> 01:21:18,972
Speaker 29: winners and also won overall Supreme winner.

1735
01:21:19,732 --> 01:21:21,492
Speaker 2: And so you came up for the awards.

1736
01:21:23,053 --> 01:21:26,932
Speaker 29: We did absolutely so we won the lowest South Island

1737
01:21:26,973 --> 01:21:30,052
Speaker 29: which was fantastic, and then yeah, we were taken quite

1738
01:21:30,133 --> 01:21:33,333
Speaker 29: by surprise last night when we won the overall Supreme

1739
01:21:33,372 --> 01:21:35,092
Speaker 29: award as well, So that was pretty amazing.

1740
01:21:35,652 --> 01:21:36,972
Speaker 2: Did you deliver a decent speech?

1741
01:21:38,372 --> 01:21:40,933
Speaker 29: Oh, Ken did the speech? It was pretty short, to

1742
01:21:41,013 --> 01:21:43,572
Speaker 29: be honest, I think we're so. It was pretty short.

1743
01:21:43,853 --> 01:21:46,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, fantastic. Can I wute a couple of things past you,

1744
01:21:46,772 --> 01:21:48,973
Speaker 3: Selena and what I think makes a great pub and

1745
01:21:49,053 --> 01:21:50,372
Speaker 3: see if the Fat Duck has it?

1746
01:21:51,333 --> 01:21:51,532
Speaker 6: Yes?

1747
01:21:51,652 --> 01:21:54,932
Speaker 3: Absolutely, live music, Oh.

1748
01:21:54,893 --> 01:21:58,333
Speaker 29: My goodness the first question. So we used to have

1749
01:21:58,452 --> 01:22:01,133
Speaker 29: live music really regularly. Now we kind of have it

1750
01:22:01,213 --> 01:22:03,772
Speaker 29: occasionally when we can. We're a small town, so we

1751
01:22:03,933 --> 01:22:06,412
Speaker 29: don't have a heap of options around live music here,

1752
01:22:06,452 --> 01:22:08,012
Speaker 29: but when we can do all right.

1753
01:22:07,973 --> 01:22:09,933
Speaker 2: There's a great band that's not too far from you,

1754
01:22:10,093 --> 01:22:12,412
Speaker 2: covers being called the wheel Wolves of Lumsden. If you

1755
01:22:13,053 --> 01:22:16,772
Speaker 2: if you're looking for some great covers, it's a good name.

1756
01:22:16,893 --> 01:22:18,612
Speaker 2: Ah right, Yeah, that's a good name.

1757
01:22:18,652 --> 01:22:19,253
Speaker 20: We'll have to give them.

1758
01:22:19,253 --> 01:22:23,932
Speaker 29: About happy hour, Absolutely happy hour from five to six

1759
01:22:23,973 --> 01:22:24,412
Speaker 29: every day.

1760
01:22:24,652 --> 01:22:28,612
Speaker 3: Fantastic. Do you have the odd meat raffle every now

1761
01:22:28,612 --> 01:22:28,932
Speaker 3: and again?

1762
01:22:30,013 --> 01:22:32,173
Speaker 29: Do you know we do not have the odd meat raffle.

1763
01:22:33,013 --> 01:22:36,852
Speaker 29: We are probably more restaurant than pubs, so meat raffles

1764
01:22:36,973 --> 01:22:40,412
Speaker 29: not quite acting. And there is another place in town

1765
01:22:40,492 --> 01:22:41,772
Speaker 29: that does a great meat wrestle.

1766
01:22:41,893 --> 01:22:44,532
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm anti meat raffle. I've won meat raffles

1767
01:22:44,572 --> 01:22:46,652
Speaker 2: a couple of times. Nothing that you don't you don't

1768
01:22:46,652 --> 01:22:47,253
Speaker 2: know what to do with them.

1769
01:22:47,293 --> 01:22:48,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty awkward.

1770
01:22:48,213 --> 01:22:49,732
Speaker 29: Yeah, beat a good meat Raffle.

1771
01:22:50,893 --> 01:22:52,492
Speaker 2: One night, I want to meet Raffel. Ended up putting

1772
01:22:52,492 --> 01:22:54,012
Speaker 2: it down in front of my pants and walking around

1773
01:22:54,093 --> 01:22:57,013
Speaker 2: all night with it and then woke up with It's

1774
01:22:57,013 --> 01:22:58,172
Speaker 2: still I'm hilarious.

1775
01:22:59,053 --> 01:23:00,692
Speaker 3: What about the quiz night? Is that still a thing?

1776
01:23:00,732 --> 01:23:01,293
Speaker 3: The quiz night?

1777
01:23:02,013 --> 01:23:02,133
Speaker 4: Oh?

1778
01:23:02,253 --> 01:23:05,333
Speaker 29: Quiz nights? Again, we're not really that venu And there

1779
01:23:05,333 --> 01:23:07,213
Speaker 29: are a couple of other places that's here now that

1780
01:23:07,333 --> 01:23:08,732
Speaker 29: you are fantastic night.

1781
01:23:08,933 --> 01:23:12,253
Speaker 2: So how many how many pubs you've got in now?

1782
01:23:12,973 --> 01:23:18,572
Speaker 29: Oh gosh, we have got We're definitely more gastro pubs,

1783
01:23:18,933 --> 01:23:23,532
Speaker 29: certainly more restaurants style. I'd say we've definitely got a

1784
01:23:23,652 --> 01:23:29,333
Speaker 29: good three or four sort of pubs, but they do

1785
01:23:29,492 --> 01:23:33,053
Speaker 29: have restaurants attached as well. Yeah, and then we've got

1786
01:23:33,093 --> 01:23:37,213
Speaker 29: some great offerings in terms of restaurants and cuisine here

1787
01:23:37,253 --> 01:23:39,052
Speaker 29: in Tian now for the size of the town.

1788
01:23:39,692 --> 01:23:41,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, And what's your go to on the dinner?

1789
01:23:41,812 --> 01:23:42,013
Speaker 12: Mean you?

1790
01:23:42,133 --> 01:23:42,772
Speaker 3: For you personally?

1791
01:23:44,013 --> 01:23:48,933
Speaker 29: Oh, you can't beat the Loumina Lamb. It's absolutely fabulous.

1792
01:23:49,013 --> 01:23:50,933
Speaker 29: I don't think we've ever had a you know, a

1793
01:23:51,053 --> 01:23:54,053
Speaker 29: negative comment about it. Everyone comes and they absolutely love it.

1794
01:23:54,452 --> 01:23:56,932
Speaker 29: But I would also always recommend a couple of small

1795
01:23:56,973 --> 01:24:00,133
Speaker 29: plates to share a little bit of sharing and try

1796
01:24:00,173 --> 01:24:00,892
Speaker 29: a little bit extra.

1797
01:24:01,893 --> 01:24:02,093
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1798
01:24:02,093 --> 01:24:03,532
Speaker 2: Look, I'm just looking at the menu you call the

1799
01:24:03,572 --> 01:24:05,293
Speaker 2: fat Dark. If I went to the fat Dark, I'd

1800
01:24:05,333 --> 01:24:08,253
Speaker 2: expect to get a fat dark. You've got the fat

1801
01:24:08,692 --> 01:24:12,093
Speaker 2: pet Hay, and you've got that, You've got the duck Wanton's.

1802
01:24:12,333 --> 01:24:13,692
Speaker 29: We've got duck Wanton's yet.

1803
01:24:13,853 --> 01:24:15,933
Speaker 2: But you're not just slapping a big fat duck on

1804
01:24:16,013 --> 01:24:17,812
Speaker 2: a plate and wiling it out, you know what.

1805
01:24:18,253 --> 01:24:21,572
Speaker 29: I am definitely gonna put that request into the ship

1806
01:24:22,133 --> 01:24:23,452
Speaker 29: for the next menu change.

1807
01:24:23,732 --> 01:24:23,932
Speaker 6: Yep.

1808
01:24:25,893 --> 01:24:31,092
Speaker 2: Well, congratulations. I guess the final question key we tennis

1809
01:24:31,173 --> 01:24:34,172
Speaker 2: to Luluson was from Tianna. Wasn't she just lu Lusan

1810
01:24:34,213 --> 01:24:36,093
Speaker 2: ever coming to the Fat Duck when she's in town.

1811
01:24:36,933 --> 01:24:39,012
Speaker 29: Oh, I don't know if she's been in to be honest,

1812
01:24:39,053 --> 01:24:43,652
Speaker 29: I know she was here recently with the tennis club.

1813
01:24:44,253 --> 01:24:46,812
Speaker 29: I haven't personally seen her in, but maybe we should

1814
01:24:46,812 --> 01:24:48,532
Speaker 29: send her an invite next time she's in town.

1815
01:24:48,652 --> 01:24:48,852
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1816
01:24:48,933 --> 01:24:53,333
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Selena has been great to test you and congratulations

1817
01:24:53,372 --> 01:24:55,852
Speaker 3: once again for the award and hopefully we'll be down

1818
01:24:55,893 --> 01:24:58,212
Speaker 3: there to see you soon and have some duck wantons.

1819
01:24:58,973 --> 01:25:00,772
Speaker 29: Yep, that sounds good, Thank you so much.

1820
01:25:01,253 --> 01:25:03,732
Speaker 2: There, there you go, the Supreme Champion at the twenty

1821
01:25:03,812 --> 01:25:05,812
Speaker 2: twenty five New Zealand Guestro Pub Awards.

1822
01:25:05,933 --> 01:25:06,093
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1823
01:25:06,333 --> 01:25:08,253
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number.

1824
01:25:08,732 --> 01:25:10,532
Speaker 3: Now we want to put it to you what is

1825
01:25:10,853 --> 01:25:14,092
Speaker 3: the greatest pub in your area of New Zealand. Clearly

1826
01:25:14,133 --> 01:25:16,092
Speaker 3: the Fat Duck took it out for the Supreme Champion

1827
01:25:16,173 --> 01:25:18,253
Speaker 3: award at the guest Ro Pub Awards, but we want

1828
01:25:18,293 --> 01:25:20,692
Speaker 3: to hear from you. What is the greatest pub in

1829
01:25:20,732 --> 01:25:23,173
Speaker 3: New Zealand in your eyes? And what makes a great pub?

1830
01:25:23,612 --> 01:25:26,173
Speaker 2: This text says, get with the program, guys. It's gestro pub.

1831
01:25:26,213 --> 01:25:29,532
Speaker 2: Gestro is in gestronomy, is in food, so don't expect

1832
01:25:29,612 --> 01:25:32,012
Speaker 2: meat raffles like bands and other things in the restaurant.

1833
01:25:32,093 --> 01:25:35,173
Speaker 2: Yeah I mean what, Yeah, Tyler, it's a Guestro pub.

1834
01:25:35,333 --> 01:25:37,333
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, now I know, now, I know.

1835
01:25:37,452 --> 01:25:38,293
Speaker 3: It's a simple man.

1836
01:25:38,732 --> 01:25:41,172
Speaker 2: It's a gestro pub. And this text is a pedant.

1837
01:25:42,333 --> 01:25:45,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want to abuse me, I'm up for

1838
01:25:46,532 --> 01:25:48,492
Speaker 3: I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty What is the

1839
01:25:48,572 --> 01:25:51,572
Speaker 3: best pub in New Zealand gestro pub if you will

1840
01:25:51,772 --> 01:25:52,452
Speaker 3: in your own eyes?

1841
01:25:52,612 --> 01:25:55,492
Speaker 2: And what do you demand from a pub? Gestro pub

1842
01:25:55,652 --> 01:25:58,652
Speaker 2: or any kind of pub? What do you demand or

1843
01:25:58,692 --> 01:26:00,253
Speaker 2: what do you want? What makes you happy?

1844
01:26:00,372 --> 01:26:04,692
Speaker 3: Let's get into it. It is fourteen past three, good afternoon,

1845
01:26:04,732 --> 01:26:07,932
Speaker 3: it's seventeen past three. And what is the best pub

1846
01:26:08,013 --> 01:26:10,532
Speaker 3: guest thro a pub in New Zealand's.

1847
01:26:10,572 --> 01:26:13,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, any kind of pub. Getting so many ticks for

1848
01:26:13,093 --> 01:26:16,492
Speaker 2: swashbucklers in Auckland, which is west Haven Marina, which is

1849
01:26:16,572 --> 01:26:18,452
Speaker 2: a great pub that I go to quite a lot. Yeah,

1850
01:26:18,532 --> 01:26:21,492
Speaker 2: sit out along on the boardwalk there and you can

1851
01:26:21,572 --> 01:26:23,852
Speaker 2: maybe see an eagle ray over the edge, and you

1852
01:26:23,973 --> 01:26:28,333
Speaker 2: get a massive plate of deep fried seafood and some drugs.

1853
01:26:28,532 --> 01:26:31,612
Speaker 2: Beautiful spots, wash washbucklers. Yeah, I mean you're going you

1854
01:26:31,692 --> 01:26:34,692
Speaker 2: to Auckland, Yes, washbucklers on a nice day. It doesn't

1855
01:26:34,732 --> 01:26:36,492
Speaker 2: get much better right on the harbor.

1856
01:26:36,772 --> 01:26:41,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, empy days, beautiful spot, good seafood. Jason, how are

1857
01:26:41,173 --> 01:26:41,852
Speaker 3: you this afternoon?

1858
01:26:42,412 --> 01:26:44,732
Speaker 7: Good afternoon, gentlemen. How are you doing today?

1859
01:26:44,853 --> 01:26:45,133
Speaker 4: God?

1860
01:26:45,612 --> 01:26:50,052
Speaker 3: Ah, Now you've packed an absolute beauty, isn't it a beauty?

1861
01:26:50,093 --> 01:26:53,133
Speaker 7: I mean, how can you top Kadrona in the Cadrona Valley. Yeah,

1862
01:26:54,532 --> 01:26:59,372
Speaker 7: a GC kid running the joint and his head chef

1863
01:26:59,452 --> 01:27:02,692
Speaker 7: and in the kitchen just cuts up the best local

1864
01:27:02,812 --> 01:27:06,173
Speaker 7: fair you can possibly think of, and they support local

1865
01:27:06,452 --> 01:27:08,013
Speaker 7: So why wouldn't you go there?

1866
01:27:08,572 --> 01:27:10,972
Speaker 2: It's such an iconic pub, isn't it? In fact so iconic?

1867
01:27:11,093 --> 01:27:13,213
Speaker 2: For a while there was a replica of it just

1868
01:27:13,333 --> 01:27:17,732
Speaker 2: down from me on Normanby Street in Auckland they built

1869
01:27:17,772 --> 01:27:19,092
Speaker 2: a giant Codrona pub.

1870
01:27:20,093 --> 01:27:22,013
Speaker 7: Is an icon and you can get a Royer Burn

1871
01:27:22,093 --> 01:27:23,253
Speaker 7: Lamberger and they have.

1872
01:27:23,372 --> 01:27:27,372
Speaker 2: Swift Carlos's beer.

1873
01:27:27,492 --> 01:27:29,893
Speaker 7: Is that I might be a bit my bias. I

1874
01:27:30,053 --> 01:27:32,213
Speaker 7: may or may not be sitting at Royer Burn working

1875
01:27:32,293 --> 01:27:33,053
Speaker 7: for Nadia.

1876
01:27:32,732 --> 01:27:36,572
Speaker 2: And yeah it's a good it's a good drop that.

1877
01:27:36,893 --> 01:27:40,732
Speaker 2: Have you ever stayed the night at the Kadrona I We've.

1878
01:27:40,612 --> 01:27:42,933
Speaker 7: Had, Yes, I have. We've had staff dues there and

1879
01:27:43,013 --> 01:27:44,692
Speaker 7: some if you have a staff do at Cadrona you

1880
01:27:44,772 --> 01:27:45,612
Speaker 7: shouldn't drive home.

1881
01:27:47,333 --> 01:27:49,812
Speaker 2: No, it's a fantastic spot. It's always it's always very

1882
01:27:49,893 --> 01:27:54,133
Speaker 2: busy and very popular. But did you get attacked by

1883
01:27:54,133 --> 01:27:55,173
Speaker 2: a ghost in the middle of the night.

1884
01:27:55,933 --> 01:27:59,173
Speaker 7: No, I would like to get attacked by the night.

1885
01:27:59,173 --> 01:28:02,052
Speaker 7: You'd have a story so have either one of you, gentlemen,

1886
01:28:02,093 --> 01:28:03,852
Speaker 7: actually had a Swifty before you know what it?

1887
01:28:04,372 --> 01:28:06,412
Speaker 2: Yeah? I know I've had a number of swift these

1888
01:28:06,933 --> 01:28:09,333
Speaker 2: Carlos gave me yet six pack when he was up

1889
01:28:09,372 --> 01:28:09,932
Speaker 2: here recently.

1890
01:28:10,053 --> 01:28:12,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't. Can you can you try and describe

1891
01:28:12,652 --> 01:28:14,532
Speaker 3: the taste? What sort of beer is you?

1892
01:28:14,732 --> 01:28:17,412
Speaker 7: Do you remember when beer was beer? Yes, that's what

1893
01:28:17,572 --> 01:28:18,133
Speaker 7: swifty is.

1894
01:28:18,293 --> 01:28:20,692
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good tagline, when beer was beer.

1895
01:28:21,133 --> 01:28:23,053
Speaker 2: Now. The thing about the Kadrona, that's so good. And

1896
01:28:23,253 --> 01:28:25,932
Speaker 2: you know there's always stories of ghosts at the Kadrona,

1897
01:28:26,293 --> 01:28:29,732
Speaker 2: but low ceilings, low ceilings and small doors. It's just

1898
01:28:30,173 --> 01:28:33,772
Speaker 2: so legit shist of fields. And you've got a de

1899
01:28:33,973 --> 01:28:36,852
Speaker 2: tuned piano and untuned piano, so whatever your planet sounds

1900
01:28:36,893 --> 01:28:38,293
Speaker 2: like an old old Wiston bar.

1901
01:28:39,572 --> 01:28:39,772
Speaker 22: Yep.

1902
01:28:39,893 --> 01:28:41,053
Speaker 7: Absolutely classic vision.

1903
01:28:41,093 --> 01:28:43,572
Speaker 3: And gentlemen, ye cranking fire as well, Jason, that's a

1904
01:28:43,612 --> 01:28:45,013
Speaker 3: beauty Thank you ever down there?

1905
01:28:45,452 --> 01:28:46,772
Speaker 7: Thanks guys, you have a really good day.

1906
01:28:46,893 --> 01:28:49,133
Speaker 2: You two. Jason. If you're down there, I get over

1907
01:28:49,213 --> 01:28:51,972
Speaker 2: the Crown Range and and go to the Codrona. It's

1908
01:28:52,093 --> 01:28:54,213
Speaker 2: just such a great, such a great put yep.

1909
01:28:55,412 --> 01:29:00,372
Speaker 3: Guys, real pubs have meat raffles, real beer and horse racing. Yeah,

1910
01:29:00,812 --> 01:29:04,333
Speaker 3: I mean the the hardcore heaven in New Zealand would

1911
01:29:04,333 --> 01:29:05,372
Speaker 3: would have all of those things.

1912
01:29:05,973 --> 01:29:09,412
Speaker 2: Another great Auckland pub is the North Cote Town Tavern.

1913
01:29:10,093 --> 01:29:12,772
Speaker 2: That's that's a great spot, the North Coast North Cote Tavern.

1914
01:29:12,812 --> 01:29:14,732
Speaker 3: I've got some work to do this this weekend, I think.

1915
01:29:14,812 --> 01:29:14,892
Speaker 4: Ye.

1916
01:29:15,093 --> 01:29:18,372
Speaker 2: There you said over the shore first, first left over

1917
01:29:18,412 --> 01:29:21,012
Speaker 2: the bridge and you'll get to the North Cote Tavern eventually.

1918
01:29:21,213 --> 01:29:23,412
Speaker 2: And it's just a good old school pub. And you

1919
01:29:23,492 --> 01:29:26,572
Speaker 2: know it's the it's got the huge grass but out

1920
01:29:26,692 --> 01:29:29,652
Speaker 2: so you know there's there's a room for thousands. But

1921
01:29:30,173 --> 01:29:32,412
Speaker 2: it also contracts to being a really nice, warm pub.

1922
01:29:33,452 --> 01:29:35,372
Speaker 2: This is a place you can play, play, play that plate.

1923
01:29:35,412 --> 01:29:37,772
Speaker 2: You know, you can throw a few bucks at the

1924
01:29:37,772 --> 01:29:38,372
Speaker 2: ponies as well.

1925
01:29:38,492 --> 01:29:41,932
Speaker 3: There we are. That's it. This is a great email, guys.

1926
01:29:42,013 --> 01:29:44,452
Speaker 3: You have to mention the Sefton Pub in North Canterbury,

1927
01:29:44,532 --> 01:29:48,053
Speaker 3: the Angler's Arms. The owner refuses to do deals with

1928
01:29:48,213 --> 01:29:50,612
Speaker 3: a lot of the big breweries, so its independent. All

1929
01:29:50,692 --> 01:29:53,732
Speaker 3: handles six bucks, all spirits seven dollars. In the menu,

1930
01:29:53,933 --> 01:29:56,492
Speaker 3: kids meals from five bucks, burger and chips from eight bucks,

1931
01:29:56,732 --> 01:30:00,812
Speaker 3: and a Rabbi steak genuine three centimeter thick huge steak

1932
01:30:01,053 --> 01:30:03,892
Speaker 3: with chips, egg and salad twenty four bucks. Average meal

1933
01:30:04,013 --> 01:30:06,732
Speaker 3: is around fifteen dollars on the menu and they are beautiful.

1934
01:30:06,772 --> 01:30:09,772
Speaker 3: The interior is a time warp of the seventies, but

1935
01:30:09,893 --> 01:30:11,652
Speaker 3: it is the best pub in New Zealand with the

1936
01:30:11,692 --> 01:30:14,652
Speaker 3: best owner. His name is Toby. I'm about to hit

1937
01:30:14,692 --> 01:30:14,973
Speaker 3: there now.

1938
01:30:15,053 --> 01:30:16,973
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, good on you. It seems about the right

1939
01:30:17,013 --> 01:30:19,772
Speaker 2: time to have hit there. Three three twenty yeah, three

1940
01:30:19,853 --> 01:30:21,173
Speaker 2: twenty one. It's good time to go to the pub.

1941
01:30:21,372 --> 01:30:25,293
Speaker 2: But is more than any other kind of eatery or

1942
01:30:25,572 --> 01:30:29,013
Speaker 2: you know, a restaurants as the pub judged by the

1943
01:30:29,093 --> 01:30:33,253
Speaker 2: quality of its stay. So you can't have a quality

1944
01:30:33,333 --> 01:30:36,333
Speaker 2: pub if it can't deliver a quality steak definitely, yeah,

1945
01:30:36,492 --> 01:30:38,532
Speaker 2: and probably a quality burger yeah yeah.

1946
01:30:38,612 --> 01:30:41,972
Speaker 3: And how many sources would you require for that steak

1947
01:30:42,013 --> 01:30:45,612
Speaker 3: in terms of choices? Wow, so we've got the pepper corn. Yeah,

1948
01:30:45,652 --> 01:30:47,612
Speaker 3: you'd want maybe a nice mushroom.

1949
01:30:47,333 --> 01:30:50,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe the mushroom, yeah, the garlic butter, Oh, garlic butter. Yeah,

1950
01:30:50,853 --> 01:30:54,372
Speaker 2: the garlic butter. That's maybe a red wine. You for

1951
01:30:54,452 --> 01:30:58,532
Speaker 2: a fancy place, the munga fi mango fi t haven fantastic.

1952
01:30:58,652 --> 01:30:58,852
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1953
01:30:59,013 --> 01:31:01,293
Speaker 2: So anyway, I wait under at eighty ten eighty we're

1954
01:31:01,333 --> 01:31:03,692
Speaker 2: talking about pubs, what do you need in them? And

1955
01:31:03,812 --> 01:31:05,012
Speaker 2: what's a great pub in New Zealand.

1956
01:31:05,053 --> 01:31:06,452
Speaker 3: It is twenty two past three.

1957
01:31:10,732 --> 01:31:14,372
Speaker 1: Matd Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1958
01:31:14,452 --> 01:31:16,052
Speaker 1: ten eighty on Youth Talk ZV.

1959
01:31:16,652 --> 01:31:18,852
Speaker 3: Good afternoon. We've asked the question what is the best

1960
01:31:18,933 --> 01:31:22,053
Speaker 3: pub gastro pub in New Zealand on the back of

1961
01:31:22,293 --> 01:31:25,452
Speaker 3: the New Zealand Gastro Pub Awards. The supreme champion was

1962
01:31:25,933 --> 01:31:29,012
Speaker 3: the Fat Duck in Tiano and we chatted to the owner.

1963
01:31:29,093 --> 01:31:31,812
Speaker 3: She was absolutely delightful. But we've all got our favorite

1964
01:31:31,812 --> 01:31:33,532
Speaker 3: pubs and we want to hear yours. Oh eight hundred

1965
01:31:33,572 --> 01:31:36,893
Speaker 3: and eighty teen eighty is the number to call. Some

1966
01:31:37,093 --> 01:31:39,652
Speaker 3: good texts coming through. Oh yeah, a lot for the

1967
01:31:39,732 --> 01:31:44,173
Speaker 3: Muscle in that's near Tarkica. No other details are needed,

1968
01:31:44,492 --> 01:31:46,333
Speaker 3: the complete package from Big Dave.

1969
01:31:46,732 --> 01:31:49,612
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, Ben. Best pub in New Zealand.

1970
01:31:50,732 --> 01:31:54,012
Speaker 15: Well you just it's a tough question, man, and you've

1971
01:31:54,133 --> 01:31:58,253
Speaker 15: just raised another topic when you spoke about Mang five seven,

1972
01:31:58,293 --> 01:32:00,492
Speaker 15: Because I just went out there for a random check

1973
01:32:00,532 --> 01:32:03,333
Speaker 15: place out been up to the pub. No speaking much

1974
01:32:03,372 --> 01:32:08,652
Speaker 15: and fat pretty drop we're playing. Another time, I was

1975
01:32:08,732 --> 01:32:12,173
Speaker 15: coming back from a day's snowboarding is down South and

1976
01:32:12,253 --> 01:32:14,492
Speaker 15: I was going through myth and the exponents were on

1977
01:32:15,933 --> 01:32:17,093
Speaker 15: the You've got the places like.

1978
01:32:19,013 --> 01:32:20,013
Speaker 2: The Brown or the Blue and.

1979
01:32:22,173 --> 01:32:22,772
Speaker 3: It's a good place.

1980
01:32:23,213 --> 01:32:26,173
Speaker 15: And then you've got places like this Becking crostage here

1981
01:32:26,652 --> 01:32:30,092
Speaker 15: where I am now, and hometown. You know old places

1982
01:32:30,213 --> 01:32:32,492
Speaker 15: they're not no longer there, but like the Ducks Deluxe

1983
01:32:32,492 --> 01:32:34,372
Speaker 15: where you know, setting out a dub and the old

1984
01:32:34,652 --> 01:32:38,612
Speaker 15: famous ginger beer used to get sued in there. But look,

1985
01:32:38,853 --> 01:32:41,572
Speaker 15: I've actually rung up to speak about two pubs. Sorry

1986
01:32:41,612 --> 01:32:43,293
Speaker 15: to say this is my this is the year. There's

1987
01:32:43,293 --> 01:32:46,893
Speaker 15: two of them that I just can't decide. The old Metatah,

1988
01:32:47,133 --> 01:32:54,852
Speaker 15: the Medta Hotel, memories plenty, Yeah, yeah, And you drive

1989
01:32:54,973 --> 01:32:57,732
Speaker 15: into the place and it's someone's crossed out. The signis

1990
01:32:57,933 --> 01:33:03,412
Speaker 15: is welcome to Metatara and they've put COONa instead. You've

1991
01:33:03,452 --> 01:33:05,852
Speaker 15: got couna matata. But that part of me and it

1992
01:33:05,973 --> 01:33:07,972
Speaker 15: was just awesome. There was a faro playing the guitar

1993
01:33:08,133 --> 01:33:10,812
Speaker 15: and front of the fire and he's taking requests and

1994
01:33:10,933 --> 01:33:14,093
Speaker 15: I even I even said songs the swing and next

1995
01:33:14,173 --> 01:33:19,932
Speaker 15: minute he's doing that with all the lips and he's

1996
01:33:20,013 --> 01:33:22,452
Speaker 15: busting listening out in front of the fire. Everybody's singing.

1997
01:33:22,492 --> 01:33:25,892
Speaker 15: And then when the pub closed, the pub the whole

1998
01:33:25,933 --> 01:33:28,852
Speaker 15: bar was lined with crates and everybody took off down

1999
01:33:28,853 --> 01:33:31,933
Speaker 15: to the beach and someone lit a bonfire and the

2000
01:33:32,013 --> 01:33:35,333
Speaker 15: rest of the night continued down to the beach. But yeah,

2001
01:33:35,372 --> 01:33:37,572
Speaker 15: that was out of just an awesome pub there. But

2002
01:33:38,053 --> 01:33:42,133
Speaker 15: the south Sea Hotel. Don't go past good old Open

2003
01:33:42,253 --> 01:33:48,412
Speaker 15: and Rocus Stuart Island. The south Sea Hotel is Yeah,

2004
01:33:48,452 --> 01:33:52,253
Speaker 15: it's it's my favorite place just for for everything you

2005
01:33:52,293 --> 01:33:56,772
Speaker 15: know from uh and whatever you do, don't don't put

2006
01:33:56,772 --> 01:33:59,053
Speaker 15: a coin on the pool table because you'll never leave.

2007
01:33:59,692 --> 01:34:00,293
Speaker 13: You never leave.

2008
01:34:00,372 --> 01:34:01,532
Speaker 3: This is down in Stuart Island.

2009
01:34:02,333 --> 01:34:05,532
Speaker 15: This was Stuart Island, man, that that place just yeah,

2010
01:34:05,692 --> 01:34:08,253
Speaker 15: I shouldn't say that because if I did advertise it,

2011
01:34:08,572 --> 01:34:11,133
Speaker 15: it wouldn't be what it is. You know, it's it's

2012
01:34:11,133 --> 01:34:13,492
Speaker 15: a it's so beautiful because is that a.

2013
01:34:13,532 --> 01:34:15,572
Speaker 2: Record scratch when you go in kind of pub, like

2014
01:34:15,692 --> 01:34:18,173
Speaker 2: if you if you're out of town and you going,

2015
01:34:19,053 --> 01:34:20,333
Speaker 2: anyone turns and looks at you.

2016
01:34:20,933 --> 01:34:23,372
Speaker 15: You go in there, You go in there and yeah

2017
01:34:23,452 --> 01:34:25,652
Speaker 15: you do the music stops and it's so who's this

2018
01:34:25,893 --> 01:34:30,052
Speaker 15: But they call us loopies loopy the tourist season, we're loopies.

2019
01:34:30,093 --> 01:34:31,612
Speaker 15: But you go in there. I went in there talking

2020
01:34:31,612 --> 01:34:34,253
Speaker 15: about fishing, trying to find someone who who knew the fishing,

2021
01:34:34,853 --> 01:34:37,572
Speaker 15: and I ended up with the next morning at six

2022
01:34:37,612 --> 01:34:40,253
Speaker 15: o'clock out on a boat because I met a guy

2023
01:34:40,532 --> 01:34:42,253
Speaker 15: down the bee was down in the back in the corner,

2024
01:34:42,692 --> 01:34:46,133
Speaker 15: and his name was Fluff. Ye Fuff, if you're listening,

2025
01:34:46,253 --> 01:34:48,412
Speaker 15: thank you for that day on the boat, you know,

2026
01:34:49,293 --> 01:34:52,652
Speaker 15: And it was his mate's name. His mates couse like

2027
01:34:52,772 --> 01:34:57,572
Speaker 15: he was from top Gun. But yeah, we we had

2028
01:34:57,572 --> 01:35:00,132
Speaker 15: an absolute cracker of a day, blue cot on, power

2029
01:35:00,293 --> 01:35:04,372
Speaker 15: on you name it, and huge muscles and huge power,

2030
01:35:04,572 --> 01:35:08,652
Speaker 15: huge kinners too. But the fond memories of of those

2031
01:35:08,692 --> 01:35:13,732
Speaker 15: two places Meditator Hotel and me and Open. So one

2032
01:35:13,772 --> 01:35:16,492
Speaker 15: thing I've learned about the whole thing is you stay

2033
01:35:16,532 --> 01:35:19,812
Speaker 15: away off the beaten track and those little poky corners

2034
01:35:19,893 --> 01:35:20,852
Speaker 15: you find the best pubs.

2035
01:35:20,973 --> 01:35:24,572
Speaker 2: Ye, thank you for that. Now, race is an interesting question.

2036
01:35:24,692 --> 01:35:28,253
Speaker 2: You know you've asked the covers band to play Sulton's Swing.

2037
01:35:28,333 --> 01:35:30,652
Speaker 2: It's a very difficult song. So if someone knows that

2038
01:35:30,812 --> 01:35:32,572
Speaker 2: and they can whip it, out, they're very glad that

2039
01:35:32,652 --> 01:35:35,253
Speaker 2: you asked it. But at pubs, what is the etiquette

2040
01:35:35,293 --> 01:35:38,612
Speaker 2: on requests from the covers band? Because I was at

2041
01:35:38,652 --> 01:35:40,652
Speaker 2: the Blue Door Pub and Arrowtown not so long ago,

2042
01:35:40,692 --> 01:35:46,933
Speaker 2: and I absolutely punished the covers band to play wagon Wheel. Absolutely,

2043
01:35:47,013 --> 01:35:48,612
Speaker 2: Me and my partner, We've had a few drinks and

2044
01:35:48,732 --> 01:35:52,293
Speaker 2: we just will relentless and until they finally played wagon Wheel.

2045
01:35:52,692 --> 01:35:54,412
Speaker 2: And then and then we sat down and we thought

2046
01:35:54,452 --> 01:35:56,612
Speaker 2: we want to hear wagon wheel again? Oh no, So

2047
01:35:56,732 --> 01:35:58,692
Speaker 2: we went up and then then I woke up the

2048
01:35:58,772 --> 01:36:02,092
Speaker 2: next day and I thought, therese what an absolute punisher,

2049
01:36:02,732 --> 01:36:05,093
Speaker 2: just demanding wagon wheel over and over again from these

2050
01:36:05,253 --> 01:36:05,972
Speaker 2: these musicians.

2051
01:36:06,372 --> 01:36:08,013
Speaker 3: One would have been enough, but they would get that

2052
01:36:08,093 --> 01:36:10,852
Speaker 3: all the not wagon Well again, who's that asking?

2053
01:36:10,933 --> 01:36:14,612
Speaker 2: But well, I would say it's it's neglectful of a

2054
01:36:14,652 --> 01:36:15,932
Speaker 2: covers band not to play wagon will.

2055
01:36:15,973 --> 01:36:16,692
Speaker 3: Did the people love it?

2056
01:36:17,452 --> 01:36:21,093
Speaker 2: The people, yeah, the other pub goers, it's hard to

2057
01:36:21,133 --> 01:36:23,452
Speaker 2: say we loved it. That's all that is.

2058
01:36:24,452 --> 01:36:27,133
Speaker 3: One and eighty one is the best pub in New Zealand.

2059
01:36:27,213 --> 01:36:28,812
Speaker 3: Love to hear from you. Twenty nine Bus three.

2060
01:36:31,893 --> 01:36:35,253
Speaker 12: You talk the headlines with Blue Bubble Taxis it's no

2061
01:36:35,412 --> 01:36:38,732
Speaker 12: trouble with a blue Bubble. The government is allocating one

2062
01:36:38,893 --> 01:36:42,532
Speaker 12: hundred million dollars for lending to developers to use for

2063
01:36:42,612 --> 01:36:46,253
Speaker 12: housing infrastructure in changes aiming to help build more on

2064
01:36:46,452 --> 01:36:50,772
Speaker 12: city outskirts. Health New Zealand has confirmed some personal staff

2065
01:36:50,893 --> 01:36:54,972
Speaker 12: data was leaked after an IT security breach late last year.

2066
01:36:55,492 --> 01:36:58,133
Speaker 12: It says it hasn't been shared online, but police are

2067
01:36:58,253 --> 01:37:02,652
Speaker 12: monitoring and expect to lay charges. And Education Union is

2068
01:37:02,772 --> 01:37:06,932
Speaker 12: pleading the government to scrap proposed changes to early childhood education,

2069
01:37:07,492 --> 01:37:12,572
Speaker 12: including toqualifications, safety requirements and honoring Ted TDT. More than

2070
01:37:12,612 --> 01:37:16,652
Speaker 12: ten thousand people have signed an opposing petition. A twenty

2071
01:37:16,732 --> 01:37:19,492
Speaker 12: one year old man has been charged with murder after

2072
01:37:19,572 --> 01:37:21,852
Speaker 12: a man was found dead late last month in Bay

2073
01:37:21,893 --> 01:37:26,013
Speaker 12: of Plenty's Corwardo. Police are still asking the public for information.

2074
01:37:26,853 --> 01:37:30,692
Speaker 12: An Auckland councilor is telling fellow counselors to pull back

2075
01:37:30,772 --> 01:37:34,173
Speaker 12: on the fiery rhetoric as they gird their loins before

2076
01:37:34,253 --> 01:37:38,213
Speaker 12: making a decision on the National Stadium expected this afternoon.

2077
01:37:39,173 --> 01:37:43,333
Speaker 12: A mild mannered family man became Putin's public enemy number one.

2078
01:37:43,772 --> 01:37:46,412
Speaker 12: You can see the full story at Enzip Herald Premium.

2079
01:37:46,853 --> 01:37:49,052
Speaker 12: Now back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

2080
01:37:49,253 --> 01:37:51,692
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Susie. And we're talking about the

2081
01:37:51,893 --> 01:37:54,732
Speaker 3: greatest pub in New Zealand in your own eyes is

2082
01:37:54,812 --> 01:37:57,492
Speaker 3: on the back of the Gastro Pub Awards that were

2083
01:37:57,492 --> 01:37:59,772
Speaker 3: held in Auckland last night. The Supreme champion was the

2084
01:37:59,853 --> 01:38:01,772
Speaker 3: Fat Duck in Tiano.

2085
01:38:03,093 --> 01:38:06,773
Speaker 2: The Upper North Island winner was Franklin's Barn Eatery in PUCACOI.

2086
01:38:07,372 --> 01:38:10,412
Speaker 2: Lower North Island it's Thistleton and Wellington. You've got the

2087
01:38:10,532 --> 01:38:14,293
Speaker 2: Upper South Island winner that was the Strawberry Tree in

2088
01:38:14,372 --> 01:38:18,573
Speaker 2: Kaikuorta Lower South Island pub was the Fat Dark Guesstropub

2089
01:38:18,612 --> 01:38:20,732
Speaker 2: and of course that won the Supreme championship as well.

2090
01:38:20,933 --> 01:38:22,652
Speaker 2: And yeah there you go.

2091
01:38:22,893 --> 01:38:23,452
Speaker 3: Yeah love it.

2092
01:38:24,133 --> 01:38:26,053
Speaker 2: But what do you think? And I tell you what

2093
01:38:26,053 --> 01:38:28,973
Speaker 2: the amount of people that texting through swashbucklers here or swashies.

2094
01:38:29,933 --> 01:38:31,372
Speaker 2: People have a great time a swashes. I've had a

2095
01:38:31,372 --> 01:38:32,092
Speaker 2: great time of swashes.

2096
01:38:32,093 --> 01:38:34,372
Speaker 3: It sounds like a good time. This one. I can

2097
01:38:34,412 --> 01:38:37,293
Speaker 3: attest to the Sprig and Fern tavern and brightwater near Nelson.

2098
01:38:37,412 --> 01:38:41,092
Speaker 3: Nineteen taps of local Nelson craft beer inside of no TVs,

2099
01:38:41,293 --> 01:38:44,173
Speaker 3: Pokey's or pool tables, just human connection, good times, chats

2100
01:38:44,253 --> 01:38:44,973
Speaker 3: and laughs.

2101
01:38:44,732 --> 01:38:45,652
Speaker 2: At at the Reworker.

2102
01:38:46,253 --> 01:38:49,013
Speaker 3: I love the Rewalker. Yeah, dear yeah, yeah, good life

2103
01:38:49,133 --> 01:38:49,932
Speaker 3: music at the Rewalker.

2104
01:38:50,053 --> 01:38:51,452
Speaker 2: I had a real shocker and Rewalker once.

2105
01:38:51,492 --> 01:38:52,093
Speaker 3: I've heard about that.

2106
01:38:52,213 --> 01:38:56,172
Speaker 2: Yeah, any the story, let's not talk about it, Maggie,

2107
01:38:56,412 --> 01:38:57,213
Speaker 2: welcome to the show.

2108
01:38:58,093 --> 01:39:04,372
Speaker 28: Oh hi, our pa Jonah. Lamb chops amazing. We used

2109
01:39:04,412 --> 01:39:08,972
Speaker 28: to go to Queenstown and mon occur a lot am Monica,

2110
01:39:09,093 --> 01:39:13,412
Speaker 28: but the best meal, honesty, one night coming in starving

2111
01:39:13,853 --> 01:39:17,293
Speaker 28: and their lamb chops and mashed potato and lady parrots.

2112
01:39:17,732 --> 01:39:19,933
Speaker 28: We repeated the rest of these so many times and

2113
01:39:20,093 --> 01:39:23,412
Speaker 28: we just named it cardrone the Chop. It was amazing,

2114
01:39:23,652 --> 01:39:26,452
Speaker 28: It truly is. But whether they still serve it, it's

2115
01:39:26,452 --> 01:39:29,213
Speaker 28: seen a while. But I just had to give Cardrona

2116
01:39:29,973 --> 01:39:32,212
Speaker 28: a leg up on that one because that was amazing.

2117
01:39:32,853 --> 01:39:34,412
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well you have to have, you know, if you're

2118
01:39:34,452 --> 01:39:36,492
Speaker 2: going to be where the Codrona Hotel is, you're going

2119
01:39:36,572 --> 01:39:38,012
Speaker 2: to have to have some good comfort food.

2120
01:39:38,253 --> 01:39:39,932
Speaker 11: Yeah, for sure.

2121
01:39:40,492 --> 01:39:42,532
Speaker 28: Well it was this cold night and we had a

2122
01:39:42,612 --> 01:39:45,213
Speaker 28: busy day and just being able to sit there with

2123
01:39:45,333 --> 01:39:48,812
Speaker 28: that and I mean enormous meal. But it's still no

2124
01:39:49,133 --> 01:39:51,732
Speaker 28: lamb chops amazing than.

2125
01:39:53,933 --> 01:39:56,572
Speaker 3: It is hearty hearty food at the Cadrona. I mean

2126
01:39:56,612 --> 01:39:58,532
Speaker 3: that is part of what makes a good pub is

2127
01:39:59,013 --> 01:40:00,452
Speaker 3: a lot of food and hearty food.

2128
01:40:00,612 --> 01:40:03,692
Speaker 2: They were a good pub Nacho's, Yeah they do. Actually yeah.

2129
01:40:05,053 --> 01:40:09,012
Speaker 3: Again another one for Swashbucklers. Yeah, I love the wash Buglers.

2130
01:40:09,853 --> 01:40:11,572
Speaker 2: Matthew best pub in New.

2131
01:40:11,572 --> 01:40:16,772
Speaker 30: Zealand, Well I think I think, Well the piano. Isn't

2132
01:40:16,812 --> 01:40:18,692
Speaker 30: it just because the heap of tourists go there because

2133
01:40:18,692 --> 01:40:20,732
Speaker 30: there's no other place to eat down there?

2134
01:40:22,173 --> 01:40:26,692
Speaker 2: Maybe? Well, well, to be fair, it wasn't. It wasn't

2135
01:40:26,772 --> 01:40:30,092
Speaker 2: judged by the tourists. It was judged by a nationwide panel.

2136
01:40:31,093 --> 01:40:32,892
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, fair enough, fair enough.

2137
01:40:34,053 --> 01:40:37,213
Speaker 30: The bed pub in Christ I'd have to say, would

2138
01:40:37,253 --> 01:40:41,612
Speaker 30: be Moon Underwater in Summerfield. I've got voted by Avenue right.

2139
01:40:41,933 --> 01:40:43,333
Speaker 3: There must be a new one as a myth. You

2140
01:40:43,372 --> 01:40:45,052
Speaker 3: haven't heard of that one, The Moon Underwater.

2141
01:40:45,213 --> 01:40:49,732
Speaker 30: It's bloody god. I've got about twenty taps that changed

2142
01:40:49,853 --> 01:40:53,293
Speaker 30: Crafty's Matt runs. That's got games. There are no TV

2143
01:40:53,612 --> 01:40:56,893
Speaker 30: you can take your dog. It's always pumping like you

2144
01:40:56,933 --> 01:40:59,932
Speaker 30: can never get a feed in there. It's like it's cracking,

2145
01:41:00,293 --> 01:41:00,932
Speaker 30: cracking bloke.

2146
01:41:01,093 --> 01:41:01,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, so is it?

2147
01:41:01,893 --> 01:41:07,013
Speaker 2: And is it named after the George Orwell essay, I.

2148
01:41:07,173 --> 01:41:10,133
Speaker 30: Have no probably knowing Matt, it probably would be.

2149
01:41:10,612 --> 01:41:12,812
Speaker 2: It's quite an intellectual name for a pub.

2150
01:41:13,973 --> 01:41:15,572
Speaker 30: Yeah, yeah, but it's a great pub.

2151
01:41:15,652 --> 01:41:16,253
Speaker 2: It's a great time.

2152
01:41:16,293 --> 01:41:18,812
Speaker 30: I'm supprised you never went Tyler when you're.

2153
01:41:18,652 --> 01:41:19,972
Speaker 2: Down here, I am too.

2154
01:41:20,412 --> 01:41:22,812
Speaker 3: That's why I'm asking, has it been there? Kind of

2155
01:41:22,893 --> 01:41:25,093
Speaker 3: been there long? Is it for a couple of years?

2156
01:41:26,173 --> 01:41:29,692
Speaker 3: Shame on, shame next.

2157
01:41:29,133 --> 01:41:31,852
Speaker 30: Time you come down you must. But as also the

2158
01:41:31,973 --> 01:41:35,772
Speaker 30: muscle in the muscle ends okay, up Golden Bay. I

2159
01:41:36,053 --> 01:41:41,173
Speaker 30: preferred Twinkies and Collingwood's a way better pubs, down down

2160
01:41:41,253 --> 01:41:42,372
Speaker 30: to earth sort of pub.

2161
01:41:42,492 --> 01:41:45,652
Speaker 3: But there's more under Yeah, there's more things I think

2162
01:41:45,692 --> 01:41:47,932
Speaker 3: that happen at Twinkies and Collingwood rather than the Muscle,

2163
01:41:48,053 --> 01:41:50,772
Speaker 3: and you know, things that you might not want to

2164
01:41:50,772 --> 01:41:51,812
Speaker 3: tell too many people about.

2165
01:41:52,133 --> 01:41:55,772
Speaker 2: Well, so that the Moon Underwater that essay was about

2166
01:41:55,973 --> 01:41:58,692
Speaker 2: was Georgia hil just writing what the perfect pub has

2167
01:41:58,772 --> 01:42:01,372
Speaker 2: to have. So it'd be interesting to take that essay

2168
01:42:01,492 --> 01:42:04,612
Speaker 2: into the Moon under the Water and they're just going

2169
01:42:05,053 --> 01:42:08,093
Speaker 2: they have to be. He must be listening off things.

2170
01:42:09,412 --> 01:42:10,412
Speaker 30: He's got board games.

2171
01:42:10,492 --> 01:42:11,692
Speaker 15: You can take your dog in there.

2172
01:42:12,173 --> 01:42:15,852
Speaker 30: They do good food, good planners. The beer and gravy

2173
01:42:15,933 --> 01:42:20,333
Speaker 30: is always good, always goes down well, and chip chips

2174
01:42:20,372 --> 01:42:23,492
Speaker 30: and gravy always goes down well. But yeah, now it's

2175
01:42:23,492 --> 01:42:26,452
Speaker 30: a quality pub. Just a shame you spend like dirty

2176
01:42:26,492 --> 01:42:27,652
Speaker 30: back for two pins, you.

2177
01:42:27,652 --> 01:42:30,932
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, Well he says that that a good pub.

2178
01:42:31,013 --> 01:42:32,852
Speaker 2: George Orwell thought a good pub had to have liver

2179
01:42:32,933 --> 01:42:35,732
Speaker 2: sausage sandwiches. So you know, I think things might have

2180
01:42:35,812 --> 01:42:37,173
Speaker 2: changed a bit since ninety forty six.

2181
01:42:40,293 --> 01:42:41,973
Speaker 27: And you're not going to.

2182
01:42:41,973 --> 01:42:45,372
Speaker 30: Play wagon Wheel for the Friday song for the topic

2183
01:42:45,452 --> 01:42:45,812
Speaker 30: of the week.

2184
01:42:45,893 --> 01:42:46,772
Speaker 3: That'd be something you'd do.

2185
01:42:47,293 --> 01:42:47,812
Speaker 2: I would do that.

2186
01:42:48,253 --> 01:42:50,412
Speaker 3: It would be played twice as well.

2187
01:42:50,492 --> 01:42:51,333
Speaker 2: Are you requesting it?

2188
01:42:51,652 --> 01:42:52,212
Speaker 12: He will.

2189
01:42:55,053 --> 01:42:57,652
Speaker 2: Give you a call. And I'm looking forward to checking

2190
01:42:57,652 --> 01:43:00,772
Speaker 2: out The Moon Underwater. I'm down down and christ Chitch

2191
01:43:00,853 --> 01:43:04,013
Speaker 2: next weekend, so I'll hit along. I'll check it out

2192
01:43:04,053 --> 01:43:06,253
Speaker 2: and I'll bring a print out of the George yl

2193
01:43:06,452 --> 01:43:08,053
Speaker 2: saying and I'll tick things off. I'll do.

2194
01:43:09,853 --> 01:43:13,893
Speaker 3: Guys, the Fox and Grapes in the Mortardy Tasman and

2195
01:43:14,013 --> 01:43:18,412
Speaker 3: also the Dobson, dobs and Garden and Blenham.

2196
01:43:18,452 --> 01:43:20,893
Speaker 2: I think that is well, this is interesting. This is

2197
01:43:21,053 --> 01:43:23,093
Speaker 2: something that someone doesn't like in pubs because it's been

2198
01:43:23,213 --> 01:43:25,933
Speaker 2: extremely positive about pubs and what people want. But this

2199
01:43:26,093 --> 01:43:27,973
Speaker 2: text to Mark says if you can take a dog in,

2200
01:43:28,293 --> 01:43:31,052
Speaker 2: I'll stay away. So he doesn't like pubs with dogs

2201
01:43:31,093 --> 01:43:31,293
Speaker 2: in them.

2202
01:43:31,652 --> 01:43:32,732
Speaker 3: What's wrong with your Mark?

2203
01:43:33,053 --> 01:43:36,612
Speaker 2: Come on dog pub if Mark, if you met my

2204
01:43:36,692 --> 01:43:39,612
Speaker 2: dog Colin, then you would change your Tuneellia.

2205
01:43:38,973 --> 01:43:41,772
Speaker 3: Colin's a good boy. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

2206
01:43:41,973 --> 01:43:45,093
Speaker 3: is the number to call. It is twenty one to four.

2207
01:43:45,173 --> 01:43:48,772
Speaker 3: Back very shortly here on news Talks, heb the issues that.

2208
01:43:48,853 --> 01:43:51,133
Speaker 4: Affect you and if it have fun along the way.

2209
01:43:51,372 --> 01:43:55,293
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo xc N eighty Innovation,

2210
01:43:55,532 --> 01:43:56,532
Speaker 1: Style and design.

2211
01:43:56,732 --> 01:43:57,253
Speaker 22: Have it all.

2212
01:43:57,452 --> 01:44:01,572
Speaker 3: News Talk said, be good afternoon. It's nineteen to four.

2213
01:44:01,812 --> 01:44:05,133
Speaker 2: I've gone deep into this nineteen forty six essay by

2214
01:44:05,213 --> 01:44:08,892
Speaker 2: George Orwell on the perfect pub called the Moon and Water,

2215
01:44:09,532 --> 01:44:12,053
Speaker 2: which a pub's named itself. I assume after this that

2216
01:44:12,293 --> 01:44:14,133
Speaker 2: would make perfect sense. Would be crazy if this it's

2217
01:44:14,213 --> 01:44:16,972
Speaker 2: crazy coincidence if they named their pub the Moon Underwater

2218
01:44:17,013 --> 01:44:18,852
Speaker 2: in christ Titch and it wasn't related to this. But

2219
01:44:19,412 --> 01:44:23,213
Speaker 2: George Orwell ninety forty six hads some very very very

2220
01:44:23,293 --> 01:44:26,293
Speaker 2: specific things he demanded to have a pub, so this

2221
01:44:26,372 --> 01:44:28,732
Speaker 2: one's great. The bar maids know the customers by name

2222
01:44:28,772 --> 01:44:31,492
Speaker 2: and take an interest in everyone. It must sell tobacco

2223
01:44:31,572 --> 01:44:36,652
Speaker 2: and cigarettes, aspirins and stamps, and should be obliging with

2224
01:44:36,772 --> 01:44:40,293
Speaker 2: anyone wanting to use the telephone. That sentient. If there

2225
01:44:40,372 --> 01:44:45,052
Speaker 2: is a creamy draft stout must be on the menu

2226
01:44:45,652 --> 01:44:49,013
Speaker 2: with George on that, he says. The pub must be

2227
01:44:49,452 --> 01:44:52,772
Speaker 2: quiet enough to talk with the house, possessing neither a

2228
01:44:52,933 --> 01:44:53,972
Speaker 2: radio nor a piano.

2229
01:44:54,612 --> 01:44:56,692
Speaker 3: Wow, there didn't like noise.

2230
01:44:57,013 --> 01:44:59,253
Speaker 2: There are particularly about their drinking vessels at the Moon

2231
01:44:59,333 --> 01:45:01,972
Speaker 2: Underwater and never, for example, make the mistake of serving

2232
01:45:02,013 --> 01:45:05,852
Speaker 2: a pint of beer in a handless glass. It's not

2233
01:45:05,933 --> 01:45:06,852
Speaker 2: a fan of the schooner.

2234
01:45:07,452 --> 01:45:09,133
Speaker 3: And he liked the liver sandwiches as well.

2235
01:45:09,253 --> 01:45:11,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I'm looking forward to going to the Moon

2236
01:45:11,093 --> 01:45:13,852
Speaker 2: under the Water and Moon the Moon Underwater in christ

2237
01:45:13,893 --> 01:45:15,652
Speaker 2: Church and ticking those things off. I'm looking for the

2238
01:45:15,692 --> 01:45:17,253
Speaker 2: liver sausage sandwiches.

2239
01:45:18,133 --> 01:45:22,012
Speaker 3: Boys, the Parrot Dog and Lyle Bay. Wellington has awesome dogs, parrots, kids,

2240
01:45:22,093 --> 01:45:24,973
Speaker 3: great food, mbers. You can't beat it from Vinnie Oh.

2241
01:45:25,133 --> 01:45:29,173
Speaker 3: The Caragling Pub is fantastic. A lot of people texting

2242
01:45:29,253 --> 01:45:31,492
Speaker 3: through the Curraglon plub. I've played there a number of times,

2243
01:45:32,013 --> 01:45:35,253
Speaker 3: and bands of the years stayed there in accommodation.

2244
01:45:34,692 --> 01:45:36,172
Speaker 2: Which is but dodgetally to be whereabouts?

2245
01:45:36,213 --> 01:45:36,372
Speaker 26: Is it?

2246
01:45:37,053 --> 01:45:39,732
Speaker 2: It's a near coraman Ah? Yeah?

2247
01:45:40,173 --> 01:45:42,772
Speaker 3: Nice. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

2248
01:45:43,053 --> 01:45:46,133
Speaker 3: number to call, Morris, How.

2249
01:45:46,053 --> 01:45:47,532
Speaker 4: Are you good?

2250
01:45:47,572 --> 01:45:50,093
Speaker 11: Boys? There's only one pub. It's got to have good

2251
01:45:50,173 --> 01:45:56,372
Speaker 11: beer yep, good people, yep, clean toilets, wonderful food in

2252
01:45:56,452 --> 01:45:58,772
Speaker 11: the pub. I'm going to mention is regularly, is it?

2253
01:45:58,893 --> 01:46:01,213
Speaker 11: Michael Van the owls and is a pretty good budge

2254
01:46:01,213 --> 01:46:03,012
Speaker 11: of food because he thinks the kid's the best booder

2255
01:46:03,093 --> 01:46:05,732
Speaker 11: he's ever had. And that's the one only who are

2256
01:46:05,772 --> 01:46:10,372
Speaker 11: by Kevin? You go there and the people are really nice.

2257
01:46:10,492 --> 01:46:12,572
Speaker 2: Yet you invited me out for a drink there, didn't

2258
01:46:12,572 --> 01:46:13,572
Speaker 2: you just a few days ago?

2259
01:46:14,492 --> 01:46:14,652
Speaker 13: Yep?

2260
01:46:14,732 --> 01:46:17,333
Speaker 11: And the food there is so good. But she cleans

2261
01:46:17,372 --> 01:46:19,892
Speaker 11: every Monday, Gale seventy eight knocking on. You know, heavans

2262
01:46:20,013 --> 01:46:22,052
Speaker 11: do all sort of age. She's out there every Monday

2263
01:46:22,053 --> 01:46:24,412
Speaker 11: morning at six o'clock cleaning it. She cleans all in

2264
01:46:24,532 --> 01:46:26,772
Speaker 11: lines and all the regular as crock with good old

2265
01:46:26,812 --> 01:46:29,293
Speaker 11: traditional pub did away with the pool table. She had

2266
01:46:29,333 --> 01:46:32,133
Speaker 11: more money out of people eating food. And you've got

2267
01:46:32,173 --> 01:46:35,013
Speaker 11: a garden bay, You've got everything you want. And the

2268
01:46:35,093 --> 01:46:38,852
Speaker 11: locals from eighteen year olds through the knocking on Evans

2269
01:46:38,933 --> 01:46:41,532
Speaker 11: door rage, the local country village club down the road

2270
01:46:41,572 --> 01:46:43,852
Speaker 11: have got They all go there for lunches and dinners

2271
01:46:43,933 --> 01:46:46,412
Speaker 11: and all the rest of it. And it's actually community.

2272
01:46:46,452 --> 01:46:48,532
Speaker 11: And I saw an other guy there one day and

2273
01:46:48,652 --> 01:46:50,173
Speaker 11: I didn't even know him, and he thought they want

2274
01:46:50,173 --> 01:46:52,692
Speaker 11: to be made and he introduced me to himself and

2275
01:46:52,812 --> 01:46:54,412
Speaker 11: I said, oh, how do you know each other? Because

2276
01:46:54,452 --> 01:46:56,852
Speaker 11: I've just met him. And this broke the old daves

2277
01:46:56,853 --> 01:46:58,412
Speaker 11: a bit of a surfer. This guy was here surfing

2278
01:46:58,492 --> 01:47:00,253
Speaker 11: and he gave him a plate whole on a freezing

2279
01:47:00,412 --> 01:47:02,892
Speaker 11: The other guy crews run the North Island surfing with all.

2280
01:47:02,853 --> 01:47:04,053
Speaker 14: His mates, and he met him at the pub.

2281
01:47:04,173 --> 01:47:05,572
Speaker 11: You know, only had one beer with him.

2282
01:47:05,893 --> 01:47:08,093
Speaker 2: Has has it still got a big red roof?

2283
01:47:09,093 --> 01:47:10,652
Speaker 23: Yeah, because it's on that TV.

2284
01:47:10,973 --> 01:47:13,372
Speaker 11: But on the TV and they bugged out the Lion

2285
01:47:13,452 --> 01:47:16,452
Speaker 11: Reid signed, But all that's there. Yes, there's regulars on

2286
01:47:16,492 --> 01:47:18,892
Speaker 11: the tank out of the back and every time one

2287
01:47:18,893 --> 01:47:20,492
Speaker 11: of the regulars passes the way they've got a plant

2288
01:47:20,572 --> 01:47:23,012
Speaker 11: in the garden to the fifty of them these days.

2289
01:47:23,093 --> 01:47:25,772
Speaker 3: Good spot for the good spot for the live bands.

2290
01:47:25,933 --> 01:47:29,092
Speaker 11: Mars every Sunday there's a live band, would be Sunday

2291
01:47:29,093 --> 01:47:30,572
Speaker 11: in the summer and she's got a stage out of

2292
01:47:30,612 --> 01:47:33,412
Speaker 11: the thing and but she's been here for suity or

2293
01:47:33,532 --> 01:47:37,293
Speaker 11: years going nowhere, you know. And that's that's what I

2294
01:47:37,333 --> 01:47:40,372
Speaker 11: think makes the pub, the publican and the people and the.

2295
01:47:40,492 --> 01:47:41,652
Speaker 6: Beer good on you.

2296
01:47:41,772 --> 01:47:45,692
Speaker 2: Marus does Texas agrees with that. But as little ass

2297
01:47:45,933 --> 01:47:49,173
Speaker 2: I see, Murray says, any pub that has beer is

2298
01:47:49,213 --> 01:47:53,173
Speaker 2: a great pub. I appreciate that that that level of

2299
01:47:53,812 --> 01:47:56,732
Speaker 2: you know, being that easily satisfied, because I tell you what,

2300
01:47:56,893 --> 01:47:58,293
Speaker 2: a pub without a beer is not a great thing.

2301
01:47:58,412 --> 01:47:59,293
Speaker 3: No, that's not a good put.

2302
01:47:59,333 --> 01:48:00,253
Speaker 2: Fact, there's a song about that.

2303
01:48:00,973 --> 01:48:04,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, guys. Best pub in the North Island is North

2304
01:48:04,772 --> 01:48:08,612
Speaker 3: kit Tevern again another one for North teven, Great teen Bear,

2305
01:48:08,772 --> 01:48:11,892
Speaker 3: Epic Food Tab and Pokey's as well as the garden bar.

2306
01:48:12,053 --> 01:48:16,812
Speaker 3: Garden bar is essential. Gotta have a garden bar, guys,

2307
01:48:16,973 --> 01:48:22,173
Speaker 3: Luke's Kitchen and Kuatunu best beach bar in New Zealand.

2308
01:48:22,612 --> 01:48:25,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, people love their pubs, don't they. People are passionate

2309
01:48:25,692 --> 01:48:29,972
Speaker 2: about it. There's thousands of texts coming through fall lines.

2310
01:48:30,053 --> 01:48:30,972
Speaker 2: People just love their parts.

2311
01:48:31,053 --> 01:48:34,333
Speaker 3: Something kiwi about it, isn't it. Uh, we've got time

2312
01:48:34,572 --> 01:48:36,812
Speaker 3: for another couple of calls. One hundred and eighty ten

2313
01:48:36,853 --> 01:48:39,213
Speaker 3: eighties and number to call Pete. What do you reckon?

2314
01:48:41,133 --> 01:48:41,253
Speaker 2: Well?

2315
01:48:41,333 --> 01:48:43,293
Speaker 17: Three weeks ago I went to a pub I hadn't

2316
01:48:43,333 --> 01:48:46,133
Speaker 17: been to for over thirty years, and that was the

2317
01:48:46,293 --> 01:48:47,812
Speaker 17: Pooh Hoyt.

2318
01:48:48,333 --> 01:48:50,132
Speaker 2: Yeah oh, an absolute classic.

2319
01:48:51,213 --> 01:48:53,053
Speaker 17: Yeah, and I was pleased to say I walked in

2320
01:48:53,213 --> 01:48:57,493
Speaker 17: and after thirty plus years, the notes, but the dollar notes.

2321
01:48:57,253 --> 01:48:59,293
Speaker 19: And stuff stilled from all over the world are still

2322
01:48:59,372 --> 01:48:59,852
Speaker 19: stuck on the.

2323
01:48:59,893 --> 01:49:00,812
Speaker 6: Ceilings and the walls.

2324
01:49:01,293 --> 01:49:03,933
Speaker 15: The bounced checks, which probably.

2325
01:49:03,612 --> 01:49:05,972
Speaker 16: A lot of your younger listen don't even know where

2326
01:49:05,973 --> 01:49:06,812
Speaker 16: the is.

2327
01:49:07,293 --> 01:49:09,532
Speaker 14: They still had the bounce I said to the barbles

2328
01:49:09,572 --> 01:49:11,972
Speaker 14: over many for three years again, welcome back date, Welcome

2329
01:49:12,053 --> 01:49:13,213
Speaker 14: back nice.

2330
01:49:13,572 --> 01:49:13,772
Speaker 15: Yeah.

2331
01:49:13,973 --> 01:49:15,812
Speaker 2: Did they have four hundred motibikes out the front?

2332
01:49:16,812 --> 01:49:19,093
Speaker 27: No, it didn't that day, but yeah, my recollecte was

2333
01:49:19,133 --> 01:49:20,213
Speaker 27: that it was used to be like that.

2334
01:49:20,372 --> 01:49:22,932
Speaker 17: But yeah, still they've done up reguard for a few

2335
01:49:22,973 --> 01:49:24,293
Speaker 17: more places these days.

2336
01:49:24,372 --> 01:49:26,852
Speaker 19: But you still recommend it, As we said three weeks ago,

2337
01:49:27,213 --> 01:49:27,692
Speaker 19: the first time.

2338
01:49:27,732 --> 01:49:29,932
Speaker 6: It's thirty years and it's still still delivered.

2339
01:49:30,572 --> 01:49:32,692
Speaker 2: That's good to hear. Thanks for your call, Pete, Yeah,

2340
01:49:32,772 --> 01:49:33,652
Speaker 2: thank you very much.

2341
01:49:34,732 --> 01:49:36,652
Speaker 3: Right, coming up very shortly, we're going to have a

2342
01:49:36,772 --> 01:49:40,933
Speaker 3: chat to Hospitality New Zealand Chief executive Steve Armitage. He

2343
01:49:41,572 --> 01:49:43,612
Speaker 3: was at the awards last night for the Best Gastro

2344
01:49:43,772 --> 01:49:46,053
Speaker 3: Pub and he knows a bit about what makes a

2345
01:49:46,093 --> 01:49:49,213
Speaker 3: great pub. So that's coming up very shortly, but I

2346
01:49:49,333 --> 01:49:53,253
Speaker 3: think we've got time for Paul before we get to Steve.

2347
01:49:53,293 --> 01:49:57,133
Speaker 3: Get Paul, God, what's your pub?

2348
01:49:58,532 --> 01:49:58,692
Speaker 13: Hey?

2349
01:49:58,853 --> 01:50:02,852
Speaker 19: The and Richmond and Richmond to see Adda Nelson The

2350
01:50:02,933 --> 01:50:07,972
Speaker 19: Dirty Old Gutter. Everyone knows the Gutter. Yeah, yeah, she's

2351
01:50:07,973 --> 01:50:12,293
Speaker 19: the EXAs the opposite of Guestro Pub. But you don't

2352
01:50:12,333 --> 01:50:14,932
Speaker 19: come out of the air being disappointed, because the whole

2353
01:50:14,973 --> 01:50:17,532
Speaker 19: reason is you don't go in expecting anything.

2354
01:50:17,572 --> 01:50:17,973
Speaker 3: You know, But.

2355
01:50:20,173 --> 01:50:22,572
Speaker 2: Paul, is the name of the club the Dirty Old Gutter,

2356
01:50:22,772 --> 01:50:24,293
Speaker 2: or it's the Gutter and you're calling it the dirty

2357
01:50:24,333 --> 01:50:24,692
Speaker 2: Old Gutter.

2358
01:50:26,893 --> 01:50:30,333
Speaker 19: It was called the Star and Garter for forever and

2359
01:50:30,973 --> 01:50:33,732
Speaker 19: then then got renamed to the to the Star. But

2360
01:50:34,133 --> 01:50:36,812
Speaker 19: everyone local just knows the Dirty Old Gutter.

2361
01:50:36,853 --> 01:50:38,852
Speaker 3: For a long time. Paul that was That was the

2362
01:50:38,973 --> 01:50:41,612
Speaker 3: only pub in Richmond, wasn't it? And it was pretty phenomenal.

2363
01:50:41,732 --> 01:50:43,372
Speaker 3: That was the only pub that man, she was good

2364
01:50:43,412 --> 01:50:44,173
Speaker 3: times in the Star and.

2365
01:50:44,173 --> 01:50:47,492
Speaker 19: Garter, Hey, exactly. And there was always you know, there

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01:50:47,572 --> 01:50:52,452
Speaker 19: still is cheraoke with shares on a Thursday, Friday Saturday night,

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Speaker 19: you know.

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Speaker 22: And there's.

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01:50:54,812 --> 01:50:59,092
Speaker 27: Thursday Thursday nights there's the meat reffels and Friday Friday

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01:50:59,612 --> 01:51:02,452
Speaker 27: after work there's the roast pauk sandwiches.

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Speaker 19: With chips and gravy.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: Hey, you know it's bloody good to beers cold. The

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01:51:07,532 --> 01:51:10,333
Speaker 19: bar staff name your name, and you know the car

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01:51:10,532 --> 01:51:11,852
Speaker 19: but the carpet was the same.

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01:51:11,732 --> 01:51:15,213
Speaker 27: In nineteen ninety nine when I left Nelson.

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Speaker 23: And.

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Speaker 19: In twenty sixteen it's exactly the same place. It's it's

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01:51:19,452 --> 01:51:20,132
Speaker 19: just a statist.

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01:51:20,333 --> 01:51:24,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you very Starr and Galla and Omrou as well. Yes,

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01:51:24,372 --> 01:51:26,412
Speaker 2: that is that a kind of a name that pubs

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01:51:26,452 --> 01:51:28,293
Speaker 2: sometimes have. Maybe it must have been a French more

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01:51:28,333 --> 01:51:31,213
Speaker 2: of a restaurant and am yeah, starring Gader. It sounds

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01:51:31,253 --> 01:51:32,653
Speaker 2: like a house of disrepute.

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01:51:33,053 --> 01:51:36,933
Speaker 3: Certainly is right coming up very shortly. We're going to

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01:51:36,973 --> 01:51:40,492
Speaker 3: have a chet to hospitality New Zealand Chief Executive Steve Armitage.

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01:51:40,572 --> 01:51:42,333
Speaker 3: It is eleven to four.

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01:51:43,933 --> 01:51:47,293
Speaker 5: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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01:51:47,652 --> 01:51:48,612
Speaker 5: everything in between.

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01:51:48,933 --> 01:51:52,772
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety attention

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01:51:52,893 --> 01:51:54,732
Speaker 1: to detail and a commitment to comfort.

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01:51:54,853 --> 01:51:59,333
Speaker 2: News Dogs EDB on News Dogs EDB Afternoon.

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01:51:59,412 --> 01:52:01,412
Speaker 3: It is eight to four and as we've been talking

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01:52:01,452 --> 01:52:03,612
Speaker 3: about the greatest pubs in New Zealand, it is a

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01:52:03,652 --> 01:52:06,852
Speaker 3: pleasure to chat to Steve Armitage, the chief executive of

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01:52:06,933 --> 01:52:08,092
Speaker 3: Hospitality New Zealand.

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01:52:08,093 --> 01:52:10,732
Speaker 20: Get Steve good afternoon, gentlemen.

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01:52:11,013 --> 01:52:13,212
Speaker 2: Tell us about these Gastro pub Awards.

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01:52:14,452 --> 01:52:16,572
Speaker 17: Oh well, look, can I first of all just thank

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01:52:16,612 --> 01:52:19,333
Speaker 17: you both and your listeners for the love that you've

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01:52:19,412 --> 01:52:22,133
Speaker 17: been showing towards gastro pubs and pubs up and down

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01:52:22,213 --> 01:52:24,492
Speaker 17: the country. It's just been music to my ears. And

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01:52:24,612 --> 01:52:26,773
Speaker 17: I know a lot of our members will be appreciating

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01:52:26,812 --> 01:52:30,053
Speaker 17: the rfee that is being expressed towards them over the

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01:52:30,093 --> 01:52:32,572
Speaker 17: course of the afternoon, so that's amazing. But it was

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01:52:32,572 --> 01:52:35,812
Speaker 17: a great occasion last night. But people are so dedicated

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01:52:35,853 --> 01:52:38,253
Speaker 17: and committed to their craft that they're almost apologetic being

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01:52:38,293 --> 01:52:42,013
Speaker 17: away from their businesses for a night. So you could

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01:52:42,053 --> 01:52:44,732
Speaker 17: see you know, the recognition sometimes set a little bit

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01:52:45,013 --> 01:52:47,572
Speaker 17: uneasily on their shoulders, but it was great to hear

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01:52:47,572 --> 01:52:48,973
Speaker 17: you talking to one of the co owners from the

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01:52:49,013 --> 01:52:52,532
Speaker 17: Fat Duck, and you know, there's such deserving winners when.

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01:52:52,812 --> 01:52:55,692
Speaker 2: Steve, when does a pub become a gastro pub and

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01:52:55,772 --> 01:52:57,133
Speaker 2: not just a pub that serves food.

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01:52:59,013 --> 01:53:01,772
Speaker 17: A gastro pub probably sways more towards being a bit

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01:53:01,772 --> 01:53:04,012
Speaker 17: of a hybrid between a restaurant and a pub. There's

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01:53:04,093 --> 01:53:08,093
Speaker 17: usually some elements on the menu that traditional pubgoers might

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01:53:08,173 --> 01:53:10,932
Speaker 17: think a little bit fancy, and certainly, if you look

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01:53:10,973 --> 01:53:13,732
Speaker 17: at the winners last night, a really strong reflection in

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01:53:13,772 --> 01:53:18,412
Speaker 17: the menus of local produce and particularly strong offerings around

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01:53:18,772 --> 01:53:22,572
Speaker 17: seafood and game, which were signature dishes for New Zealand.

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01:53:23,293 --> 01:53:25,692
Speaker 17: And so some of that authenticity coming through in the

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01:53:25,732 --> 01:53:28,013
Speaker 17: way that they're presenting their food and the passion that

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01:53:28,053 --> 01:53:31,213
Speaker 17: they're bringing to the plates as a key to winning

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01:53:31,253 --> 01:53:32,373
Speaker 17: these type of accolades.

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01:53:32,812 --> 01:53:35,412
Speaker 2: Right, So, a deep frier and some you know, some

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01:53:35,572 --> 01:53:37,572
Speaker 2: chips and a bit of a steak isn't enough to

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01:53:37,612 --> 01:53:38,652
Speaker 2: make you a guestro pub.

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01:53:39,893 --> 01:53:42,372
Speaker 17: Not not on this particular occasion, but of course those

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01:53:42,452 --> 01:53:44,892
Speaker 17: have a place. We've all been into those those pubs

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01:53:44,933 --> 01:53:47,213
Speaker 17: and they do a huge amount of work within their

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01:53:47,253 --> 01:53:50,572
Speaker 17: respective communities. There's nothing wrong with that at certainly about

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01:53:50,612 --> 01:53:54,532
Speaker 17: those that are going the extra mile and showcasing the

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01:53:54,652 --> 01:53:56,412
Speaker 17: talent that they have, particularly in their kitchens.

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01:53:56,612 --> 01:54:00,052
Speaker 3: Yeah, what is this something that makes New Zealand pubs

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01:54:00,173 --> 01:54:02,892
Speaker 3: and gestro pubs unique in the world, Steve. We love

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01:54:02,973 --> 01:54:04,852
Speaker 3: our pubs, clearly over the last hour we've heard that

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01:54:05,053 --> 01:54:08,253
Speaker 3: and there is something sort of quintessential about our Kiwi pubs.

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01:54:08,412 --> 01:54:11,173
Speaker 3: But how would you sum up what makes it it

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01:54:11,372 --> 01:54:13,012
Speaker 3: kind of special to New Zealand culture.

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01:54:14,492 --> 01:54:16,692
Speaker 17: I don't I don't think that we are unique in

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01:54:16,732 --> 01:54:19,572
Speaker 17: having a pub culture. You know, that's certainly part of

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01:54:19,612 --> 01:54:22,013
Speaker 17: the being the colony. I suppose we've picked that up

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01:54:22,093 --> 01:54:26,293
Speaker 17: from from our British heritage and the history that you see,

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01:54:26,452 --> 01:54:28,253
Speaker 17: you know, when you go into a pub in the UK,

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01:54:28,492 --> 01:54:30,652
Speaker 17: some of those pubs have been around for literally hundreds

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01:54:30,692 --> 01:54:33,693
Speaker 17: of years. But what I think we have that is

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01:54:33,693 --> 01:54:36,573
Speaker 17: a little bit different, is much more a stronger focus

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01:54:36,653 --> 01:54:38,613
Speaker 17: I think on people, you know, and that's come through

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01:54:38,733 --> 01:54:41,493
Speaker 17: really clearly in the comments I've heard from your callers

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01:54:41,493 --> 01:54:44,693
Speaker 17: throughout the course of today. There's there's often been references

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01:54:44,772 --> 01:54:46,453
Speaker 17: to the people on both sides of the bar. It's

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01:54:46,493 --> 01:54:49,053
Speaker 17: not just the people who are providing the establishment, it's

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01:54:49,133 --> 01:54:51,493
Speaker 17: the characters and the personalities that are that are the

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01:54:51,573 --> 01:54:54,613
Speaker 17: frequent the customers that are coming in the door that

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01:54:54,772 --> 01:54:57,253
Speaker 17: I think create that appeal and that sense of community.

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01:54:58,413 --> 01:55:01,293
Speaker 17: And ultimately, you know, all of our experiences in a

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01:55:01,333 --> 01:55:03,972
Speaker 17: pub are based on emotion. There's highs and lows, sometimes

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01:55:04,453 --> 01:55:06,213
Speaker 17: both ends of the picture on the same night. But

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01:55:06,453 --> 01:55:09,533
Speaker 17: you're ultimately creating memories that you you refer back to.

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01:55:09,693 --> 01:55:12,293
Speaker 17: And I heard Matt talk about the chaper and Rewoker,

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01:55:12,373 --> 01:55:14,132
Speaker 17: and I'm sure that conjures up a lot of emotions

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01:55:14,173 --> 01:55:16,893
Speaker 17: back for you, but in many of the listeners. But

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01:55:17,293 --> 01:55:19,253
Speaker 17: you know, that's that's what's at the heart of it,

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01:55:19,493 --> 01:55:22,772
Speaker 17: is creating that sense of connection and those memories that

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01:55:22,853 --> 01:55:23,893
Speaker 17: you take forward and pass on.

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01:55:24,173 --> 01:55:25,453
Speaker 2: Well, to be fair, I don't have a lot of

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01:55:25,493 --> 01:55:28,293
Speaker 2: memories of that night, but generally I would hope to

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01:55:28,373 --> 01:55:32,053
Speaker 2: leave with some memories. So we're talking to Hospitality, the

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01:55:32,053 --> 01:55:35,093
Speaker 2: New Zealand chief executive Steve Armitage. How is hospital going

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01:55:35,093 --> 01:55:39,252
Speaker 2: to New Zealand at the moment, Steve, Look, it's still.

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01:55:39,173 --> 01:55:40,053
Speaker 7: It's still tough going.

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01:55:40,333 --> 01:55:43,533
Speaker 17: I think summer has been pretty pretty positive though we've

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01:55:43,613 --> 01:55:48,533
Speaker 17: seen definitely an influx of international visitors, particularly noticeable uptake

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01:55:48,573 --> 01:55:51,733
Speaker 17: in American tourists have been passing through New Zealand, so

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01:55:52,013 --> 01:55:55,053
Speaker 17: most regions are reporting that business has been up on

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01:55:55,253 --> 01:55:55,932
Speaker 17: previous years.

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01:55:56,493 --> 01:55:59,333
Speaker 3: Well, that's great news, fantastic, Steve. Thank you so much.

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01:55:59,413 --> 01:56:01,812
Speaker 3: Great to chat with you, and as Steve see, go

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01:56:01,933 --> 01:56:04,133
Speaker 3: and support the pubs, not like we need to be told,

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01:56:04,213 --> 01:56:07,573
Speaker 3: but get behind them because it's what makes us country beautiful.

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01:56:07,653 --> 01:56:09,012
Speaker 2: Get stuck into the fat duck.

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01:56:09,493 --> 01:56:11,772
Speaker 3: Absolutely, thank you very much for today. We'll do it

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01:56:11,853 --> 01:56:14,733
Speaker 3: all again tomorrow. We will see you then.

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