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Speaker 1: Into Brady UK Correspondentello Inda.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Heather, good to speak to you again.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about this bias that's been leveled

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Speaker 1: at the BBC.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a very serious allegation to level at

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Speaker 2: any broadcaster and it is not a good look. It's

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Speaker 2: all over the front pages here and it's coming from

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Speaker 2: a man who was a very respected journalist here, Michael Prescott,

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Speaker 2: who was on an external board overseeing editorial standards and compliance,

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Speaker 2: and he says he has profound concerns about some of

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Speaker 2: the stuff that he saw going on at the BBC.

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Speaker 2: But chief amongst them this Panorama program which went out

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Speaker 2: a year ago, just ahead of Trump's re election, and

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Speaker 2: it was all looking at the Capitol Hill riots. And

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Speaker 2: they've basically spliced together two bits of the speech from

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Speaker 2: different ends of a Trump speech, making him say something

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Speaker 2: he did not say. So they were effectively saying that

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Speaker 2: Trump had said to his supporters that he would walk

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Speaker 2: the walk with them to Capitol Hill and fight like hell,

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Speaker 2: and he didn't. He said he would walk with them

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Speaker 2: to peacefully and patriotically protest, and then later on in

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Speaker 2: the same speech he said that he would fight like

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Speaker 2: hell to overturn what Biden had done and stolen the election.

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Speaker 2: So it's very very damaging.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean from the sounds of things, because if

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Speaker 1: you listen to the way that Panorama had spliced it together,

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Speaker 1: there's music. There's a bit of music underneath it, which

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Speaker 1: suggests it might have been a promo. Does that excuse it?

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Speaker 2: No, not in the slightest. You can't mislead listeners. You

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Speaker 2: can't mislead viewers. And if people say so, you're making

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Speaker 2: someone say something they never did. I mean there was

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Speaker 2: an incident as well previously with the Queen where there

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Speaker 2: was a documentary crew Queen Elizabeth the Second following her

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Speaker 2: around and it made it look as if she'd flounced

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Speaker 2: out of a room after meeting someone. Never happened. Never happened. So,

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Speaker 2: you know, the BBC, I think their problem is there's

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Speaker 2: an arrogance there at the highest level. I think the

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Speaker 2: place is run by private schoolboys who never really kind

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Speaker 2: of fully developed as journalists. And this is bad journalism.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like watching sport if you know, if

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Speaker 2: you know that the sportsperson is on drugs, the game

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Speaker 2: is over. Yeah, you can't believe what you're seeing and

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Speaker 2: when an audience can't trust journalists to deliver the news,

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Speaker 2: well then you know you've lost your audience.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair point. Now listen, is there a suggestion that

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Speaker 1: the cops might have missed an opportunity to catch that

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Speaker 1: knife attacker about a day before?

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Speaker 2: Yes, and this is serious. So the problem was that

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Speaker 2: the incident was not quickly reported to police. So a

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Speaker 2: man who bears a very striking resemblance, shall I say,

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Speaker 2: to the individual charge with the ten attempted murders on

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Speaker 2: the train, has gone into a barbershop in Peterborough with

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Speaker 2: what looks to be a foot long knife. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're talking sword territory here. He's brandished it in the

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Speaker 2: barbershop and then left. But the problem was no phone

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Speaker 2: call went to the police immediately. He then came back

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Speaker 2: a few hours later, and then a call went to

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Speaker 2: the police. It took officers eighteen minutes to turn up

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Speaker 2: in a small town and when they arrived they couldn't

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Speaker 2: find this individual. And as I say, an individual bearing

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Speaker 2: a very strong resemblance to this man then turns up

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Speaker 2: on the train stabbing people. The police force has referred

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Speaker 2: itself to the humbudsman. Basically the police watchdog, but they're

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Speaker 2: saying no further action will be taken because of the

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Speaker 2: length of time it took the public to alert the police.

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Speaker 1: I have a question for you about Prince William. Right,

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Speaker 1: So he's traveled to Brazil ahead of this cop thing,

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Speaker 1: and I was thinking the other day part of I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's problematic for him to be involving himself

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Speaker 1: in a political cause, which is what the climate is,

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Speaker 1: to the extent that he is.

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Speaker 2: What do you think I've no problem with William involving himself.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a very strong voice. He's one of

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Speaker 2: the most recognizable men on earth, and I think he's

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Speaker 2: a voice for good. And I think he's following his

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Speaker 2: father's footsteps. He's doing all the things now that his

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Speaker 2: father can't do and that William will not be able

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Speaker 2: to do as soon as he be king. So I

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Speaker 2: applaud him. I think it's wonderful what he's doing. He's

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Speaker 2: wanting to make a difference and look he as we've

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Speaker 2: seen some of the behavior from his close relatives over

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Speaker 2: the last decades. He could be doing far worse.

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Speaker 1: Could yes, But I mean, is it not possible, Like

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Speaker 1: the climate thing is becoming increasingly fraud right, and I

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Speaker 1: only see, certainly in New Zealand, I see this really

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Speaker 1: becoming quite a political thing. Is it not possible that

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Speaker 1: by staking a clim to one side, that he actually

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Speaker 1: puts the royal family into politics, the very thing that

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Speaker 1: the queen avoided in order that they kind of rise

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Speaker 1: above it, you know, and Niver get tanged.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, let's be frank heer Heather. The queen avoided

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Speaker 2: a lot of things dealing with her son, Andrew was

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Speaker 2: chief amongst them. So if William is going to put

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Speaker 2: himself out there and put some hard work in and

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Speaker 2: look this earth Shot Prize that he's gone to initially

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Speaker 2: present the winners of in Brazil in the next twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours, if they find something that can actually make

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Speaker 2: life on Earth better and we can sort out the

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Speaker 2: climate crisis, good on him. Let me tell you one

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Speaker 2: quick anecdote. I've just come back from Morocco. We booked

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Speaker 2: a trip up into the Atlas Mountains and the guide

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Speaker 2: took us to see the Emu's air waterfall, supposedly one

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Speaker 2: of the most beautiful things in the whole of Africa.

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Speaker 2: We got there and there was no water. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: I said to the guide, so where's the waterfall and

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Speaker 2: he said, oh, we haven't had rain here for five years.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. That happened on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Could have told you that before he took you up

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Speaker 1: to see the waterfall.

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Speaker 2: Goodness may that was that was That was what my

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Speaker 2: dad said. That was what my dad said. He said

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Speaker 2: my dad's exact words. He said, Jesus, this guy could

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Speaker 2: be Irish Africa.

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Speaker 1: Thanks very much, make good to talk to you. Into Brady,

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Speaker 1: UK correspondent.

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