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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from news Talks at.

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Speaker 2: B Still again A woning C three restulla for you, m.

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Speaker 3: Last what a jam? The year is two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 3: You turn on the radio and yeah, the moment you

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Speaker 3: hear that, you know who it is. That is Lady

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Speaker 3: Hawk of course aka Pitt Brown. She stormed a number

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Speaker 3: one on the New Zealand album charts with her self

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Speaker 3: titled debut and this hit song, and it lead to

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Speaker 3: a s new of music awards, international tours, a couple

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Speaker 3: more albums in the years since.

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Speaker 4: The thing about Lady Hawk.

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Speaker 3: Is she cleverly blends those eighties influences with modern indie rock,

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Speaker 3: and now she is circling back to play her entire

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Speaker 3: debut album at the upcoming others Way Festival in Tarmaki, Makoto, Auckland.

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Speaker 3: Lady Hawk aka Pit is with us this morning, Calda,

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Speaker 3: good morning, Da.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: It's so good to be seeing you and so exciting

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Speaker 3: to know that you are going to be playing Lady

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Speaker 3: Hawk as Lady Hawk. So you're going to be playing

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Speaker 3: your album as Lady Hawk, your first album. Why why

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Speaker 3: do you want to turn back the hands of time.

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Speaker 5: It's been sort of a thing for me. I wanted

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Speaker 5: to do. It's like, first of all, it's an anniversary.

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Speaker 5: I'm like fifteen years. I don't yeah, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 5: it feels like two years ago to me. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: I just thought. I knew I had a few tours

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Speaker 5: and a few shows coming up this year, and I thought,

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Speaker 5: why don'd I do something special and do the first

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Speaker 5: record front to back. There's a couple of songs on

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Speaker 5: it that I'd never played live, but really so yeah,

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Speaker 5: I just sort of I don't know why I never did,

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Speaker 5: but yeah, so that's been really nice for me to

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Speaker 5: we did.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any sense as to Wade?

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Speaker 5: I don't know. No, some of them I think in

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Speaker 5: my brain, like when that first record came out, I

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Speaker 5: was always like, well, I've got to play just the

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Speaker 5: upbeat ones, you know, Oh yeah, slower ones, no, because

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Speaker 5: I always thought I have to keep the crowd excited,

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Speaker 5: you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Now I'm like, I'm sure they'll enjoy the slower ones.

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Speaker 5: And actually, now that I play these songs, I'm like

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Speaker 5: they're not slow at all.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, that's light and shade anyway, isn't it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Light and Shade. Yeah, so you've been playing because you've

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Speaker 3: toured Australia.

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Speaker 5: This year, right yeah, in the UK?

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Speaker 3: Yeah right so, and you've played this to those audiences.

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Speaker 3: How did they How did they receive it?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 5: So stoic day. Everyone's just like really happy and I

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Speaker 5: love looking out and seeing everyone singing along. And I

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Speaker 5: know it's a bit of a nostalgia trip for people,

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Speaker 5: which is which is awesome for me too.

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Speaker 3: Is it a nostalgia trip? I suppose it is, Like

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Speaker 3: you said.

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Speaker 5: I like that you're questioning it the because it makes

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Speaker 3: I mean it's you know, you and I are of

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Speaker 3: a similar Ilken age, and I think young, Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 3: incredibly youthful, incredibly vibrant. I mean, describe to us what

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Speaker 3: your life was like then when when you wrote this

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Speaker 3: album for the first time, Like, take us back, what

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Speaker 3: what was Lady Hawk's life at that point? Two thousand

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Speaker 3: and eight, two thousand and nine, right, yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I probably wrote it. I wrote the record probably

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Speaker 5: two thousand and six, two thousand and seven, and then

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Speaker 5: it was the singles were sort of released in two

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Speaker 5: thousand and eight. My life, My life over those couple

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Speaker 5: of years was like the build up was like this

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Speaker 5: isn't actually happening? Is it? Like that was me every

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Speaker 5: day like wait, these people like my music. I just couldn't. Honestly,

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Speaker 5: I was just doing what I loved and I every

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Speaker 5: step everything that happened, I kind of was in shock,

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Speaker 5: like no one prepares you for anything. Yeah, so I didn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it was it was.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 5: It was hazy, you know, like everything was just happening

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Speaker 5: so fast, and yeah, for me, I look back and

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Speaker 5: I think about that time, I'm like, I wasn't ready

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Speaker 5: to be perceived. I think that's what was interesting.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean by that?

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Speaker 5: People that I don't know perceiving me in a way,

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Speaker 5: something that I was like, oh my god. I went

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Speaker 5: to doing this project which I put poured my heart

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Speaker 5: in case it did. Well, you know, I didn't think

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Speaker 5: that would happen. So I wasn't prepared. It's like they

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Speaker 5: need to give you lessons or something. Or like like

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Speaker 5: you know, what's going to happen, Like, oh, strangers are

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Speaker 5: going to be listening to your music. I'm like what, No,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And did you find that, like, how did you

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Speaker 3: react to that when you realize that people were perceiving

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Speaker 5: I found it very difficult. Yeah, I it almost ended

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Speaker 5: my career, Like I almost stopped doing music. I it

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Speaker 5: was so much for me to take. So after the

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Speaker 5: first record, I found it very hard and I sort

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Speaker 5: of retreated into myself and I was very close to

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Speaker 3: Are you serious? Yeah, I'm serious, because people, I mean,

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Speaker 3: the kind of cliche is that people dream of international

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Speaker 3: all that kind of thing, right, Yeah, but it sounds

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Speaker 3: like that first of all, wasn't necessarily a motivator in

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: It was definitely something I wasn't prepared for, Like I

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Speaker 5: obviously wanted to have success with my music, but something

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Speaker 5: was like, oh, it'll be you know, loads of people

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Speaker 5: you know, buying my record and be listening to it

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Speaker 5: for these magazines, and you're all of a sudden you're

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Speaker 5: And I wasn't prepared for any of that. I really

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Speaker 3: What was it about it? Do you think that you

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Speaker 5: I just don't think it's ever been my personality. I

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Speaker 5: I'm not an extrovert, and it wasn't. I know that

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Speaker 5: people can't comprehend that, like, but you're a musician, Like

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Speaker 5: how could you not be an extravert? But I just

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Speaker 5: I'm not. And I think I was scared of people

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Speaker 5: the sort of low self esteem maybe Kiwi side of

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And did you feel like that at the time, Like

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Speaker 3: people were working.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was super paranoid. But then it's funny because,

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Speaker 5: like you get older and over the years of you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm making my fifth record at the moment, and I've

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Speaker 5: had a cad and been through heaps, I don't just

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Speaker 5: don't care anymore. Yeah, I really don't care.

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Speaker 3: It's great, it's refreshing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I have realized that now I'm just like

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Speaker 5: I've I don't think I've ever enjoyed music as much

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it's crazy, it's like a liberation.

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Speaker 5: Yeah it is. It's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that funny?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: See, I was reflecting on the album at the time

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Speaker 3: unlike some other musicians. I'm not saying to cast judgment

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Speaker 3: or anyone here, but there was nothing about that album

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Speaker 3: It was just like, here's music that I enjoy. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, do you see that? Yeah, I totally think so.

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Speaker 5: There was a real I was living in Sydney at

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Speaker 5: music that was getting played was super eighties and like

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Speaker 5: yacht rock was really being you know, embraced in like

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Speaker 3: Explain what yacht rock like?

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Speaker 5: Hall and Notes? Yeah, get your boat Shoes on Saleen

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think the eighties that maybe there was

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Speaker 3: you know, we were going back a couple of generations

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Speaker 3: and yeah, obviously it was a bit of a kind

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it just like it really hit and I felt

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Speaker 5: it was it sort of sit with my voice perfectly

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Speaker 5: as well, like I could just deliver the vocal I wanted. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's crazy, I can't really sing any other genre.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you said that you're kind of enjoying writing

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Speaker 3: and performing music more than ever at the moment. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: And part of that's down to just not giving a

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Speaker 3: to how you are writing and performing now, what are

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Speaker 3: the like, what are the differences? You don't care as much,

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Speaker 5: So I think I didn't realize I was any good

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Speaker 5: back then. I didn't know, And now I know I'm

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Speaker 5: a good songwriter. You know. Now I'm like confident and

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Speaker 5: I'm comfortable saying that. I used I would be felt

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Speaker 5: so cringe. Saying that back in the day would be like,

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Speaker 5: oh my gosh, shame. I just no way I'd ever

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Speaker 5: say that. But now I'm like, I'm actually confident in

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Speaker 5: contribute to a songwriting session is valuable. So I that's

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Speaker 5: something that's been a huge obstacle for me to overcome

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Speaker 5: over the years. But it's just I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 5: ten years sober as well, so I haven't drunk alcohol

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Speaker 5: for ten years, and that that's also played a huge role.

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Speaker 3: Congratulation, thank you, yeah.

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Speaker 5: My sanity, Yeah yeah, yeah, just just getting them mental

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Speaker 5: She she'll come, you know with me when I play shows,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, cool. So it's a it's a festival where basically

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Speaker 5: That makes Yeah, it's really exciting. It's cool to be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we are delighted that you're going to be playing.

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Speaker 3: We're delighted you're playing, Lady Hawk. We can't wait for

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Speaker 5: The aim is next year around October's always it always

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Speaker 3: Oh, I can't wait. So good to see you, and

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Speaker 3: thank you very much for your time.

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Speaker 5: Oh, thank you so much, Jake.

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Speaker 3: Ah so good. So tickets for Lady Hawk's show are

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Speaker 3: on sale now via mosh tics and we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: all the details on news talks He'd be website. Thank

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Speaker 3: you very much for your feedback, Jake love Lady Hawk,

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Speaker 3: whom you music has inspired my music and my journey.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. Congratulations on your sobriety, Congratulations on your music,

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Speaker 4: Congratulations on life in general, says Tom. Hey, Lady Hawk,

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Speaker 4: I just want to say thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: That is so good.

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