1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: He's got a Europe and we've got in the Brady 2 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: on the line. 3 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 2: Hello, Inde, Hey Andrew, good morning, Hello, good evening to you. 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: It is good evening and it is a very fine evening, 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: and thank you very much. Now we've got Putin and 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Trump heavy a chet. They're wanting peace, They're wanting to 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: swap land. The UIs doesn't want to support NATO. There 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: is Ukraine being sidelined and all of us. 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: I think that is the huge concern now, and certainly 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: in the capital Kiev, they will be very, very worried 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: that this phone call lasted ninety minutes between Trump and Putin, 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: and what we're seeing is effectively Russia being brought back 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: into the international fold, no longer going to be a 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: pariah state. Or because Donald Trump seems to think that, 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: you know, he himself wants a Nobel Peace Prize. A 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: lot of people in Europe have been saying this to 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: me for months when they come on my TV show, 18 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: that this is what Trump will do. It's all about 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: Trump getting the Nobel Peace Prize. That's what's driving him. 20 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: No great first for peace or anything else. It's it's 21 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: personal kind of gain. And again the transactional president in operation. Now. 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: I've interviewed the Russian ambassador in London several times in 23 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: the last three years, and each time he has set 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: out what will be needed for Russia to end the war. 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 2: They use a phrase consistently, the denazification of Ukraine. They 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: see Zelensky, believe it or not, they see him as 27 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: a Nazi. So Russia wants Zelensky gone and some sort 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: of I'm guessing a puppet regime in Kiev. So effectively 29 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: Ukraine will be under Kremlin control. They want to keep 30 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: all the land of Russia has invaded and occupied and 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: seized in the last three years. They want Ukraine not 32 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: to be able to join NATO and not to be 33 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: able to join the European Union. So effectively Ukraine will 34 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: become a shadow state of Russia. 35 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: It would be defeat and yeah, But at the same time, 36 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: so many people have died. One hundred and twenty thousand dead, 37 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: you know, seventy thousand Russians alone. So much blood. 38 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: Yes, Look, the bloodshed and the loss of life has 39 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: been catastrophic and terrible. I was in Davos a couple 40 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: of weeks ago, and I heard Zelenski speak and afterwards, 41 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: I heard a group of Americans saying that, you know, 42 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: this guy just needs to talk peace now and sit down, 43 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 2: And so I challenged them on what was said, and 44 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: they said that there was fatigue. This was the phrase 45 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: the Americans used to me, that fatigue was setting in 46 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: after three years. And I said, hang on, we wind 47 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 2: the clock back in history to nineteen forty two. I said, 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 2: there was a lot of people, probably in America, we're 49 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: talking about fatigue. Then I said, you're going to give 50 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: Hitler what he wanted after three years, because I think 51 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: the major worry now is that putin once he realizes 52 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: he can get what he wants with Trump in power. 53 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: I'd be worried if I was in Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, 54 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: these countries. 55 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: Okay, who have just separated themselves from the Russian power 56 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: and gone to Europe, because I guess they can see 57 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: what's coming up. It took to England and a third 58 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: runway at Heathrow. 59 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: Yes, so this was the great scheme announced a few 60 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: weeks ago by Rachel Reeves, the Chancellor or Finance Minister, 61 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: to get growth in the UK economy. What's happened now 62 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: is the new Chief executive Heathrow. He traveled up to 63 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: Scunthorpe in the north of England. It's a steel producing town. 64 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: It's a town built on steel production. He gave a 65 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: major speech there and he said that he leaves there 66 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 2: will be flights taying taking off from a third runway 67 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: in Heathrow within ten years. And he said to facilitate 68 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: all of this and the extra numbers, he wants to 69 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: expand Terminal five and Terminal two at Heathrow. And he 70 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: signed a deal saying he will use British steel to 71 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: do that. So at a time when there's a lot 72 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: of talk about tariffs on steel by President Trump, this 73 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: is absolutely a boost for the UK industry. But I 74 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: think he's been very optimistic. I can't see a third 75 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: runway at Heathrow inside a decade. 76 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: Okay, well, why didn't need it? You've got you got 77 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: heat through, you got get what you got Sten Steed, 78 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: I mean, how many how many runways do you guys need? 79 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's Southampton, there's South End, there's Luton. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, 80 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: you know, smart people are saying here when I interview 81 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: business leaders, they're all saying to me, you know, put 82 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: the capacity into some of the other airports and lift 83 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: them up. He throw, this will never fly because you've 84 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: got hundreds and hundreds of people's homes that you're just 85 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: gonna have to demolish to make way for a third runwakay, Well, look. 86 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: I can tell you what you do. You can put 87 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: a bridges into sten Stead because I qued there in 88 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: January once and it was freezing cold and I had 89 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: to walk a lot of runway through the rain to 90 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: get into a plane, and I thought, which country am 91 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: I in? 92 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? Your step count if you landed London stands there. 93 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: Check your watch after you finally got to where you 94 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: need to be because you've done the equivalent of half marathon. 95 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, ok, Finally Jim Reck, Sir Jim reccliffe in the 96 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: os Win I fans have him at the moment because 97 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: he wants to take his money away from the OBECKX 98 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: with the ineos Brending. Meanwhile, he spent two point seven 99 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: billion dollars by ment United and now he's firing everybody 100 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: and the team frankly is tanking. 101 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. So we're all aware of what's going on 102 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: with NZ Rugby. We've seen that story. No one in 103 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: any way shocked at all this week by that. By 104 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 2: the way in Europe, Yes, so he's a local boy. 105 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: When he took over Manchester United, everyone felt wow, a 106 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: guy from Falesworth owning twenty eight percent of the club Falesworth, 107 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: Greater Manchester. He's from very humble origins. He went off 108 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,679 Speaker 2: to university, he founded Ineos. He is now a multi 109 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 2: multi squillionaire. Man United fans had high hopes when Ratcliffe 110 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: came in. They thought, okay, locally guy, he's an actual 111 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: United fan. He will just pump rivers of money into 112 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: the club. He's put a lot of money in, but 113 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: now he's making cutbacks. There are rumors of one hundred 114 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: redundancies coming off the back of several hundred redundancies in 115 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: the summer just gone one. Lady Jackie Kay, head of 116 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: operations at United Matchdown Logistics, she got the sack this week. 117 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: She'd been at the club thirty years. Newspapers have described 118 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: her as the oil in the man United machine and 119 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 2: Ratcliffe got rid of her. So he is utterly ruthless. 120 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: There are cost cuttings coming. But if I was Ratcliffe, 121 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: I'd be looking at some of the players on the 122 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: pitch picking off half a million dollars a week en 123 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 2: Z to play soccer and look where they are in 124 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: the league quite frankly, just not good much. 125 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: He blames the d industrialization of Europe and he's losing money. 126 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: And he's got five billion dollars worth of sports investments 127 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: around the world. It's not just Menu and the old 128 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: becks Zen and Switzerland is the nice club in France. 129 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he's in a struck and he never saw 130 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: it coming, it seems, but. 131 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: We've run any Yeah, look he's down, Andrew, he's down 132 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: to his last fifty billion dollars. Give him a break. 133 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: Come on, Andy Brady, I thank you for your time. Today, 134 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: News Talks it Be is coming up sixty seven for 135 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. 136 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: Listen live to News Talks It'd Be from four pm weekdays, 137 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.