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Speaker 4: It's the ninetheenth of February twenty twenty five and lined
Speaker 4: up for your pleasure today, Chris Keynson joins us, former
Speaker 4: Black Cat all rounder and a man who scored her
Speaker 4: down in the final of the Champions Trophy way back
Speaker 4: in the day.
Speaker 3: We'll look forward to the opening game up against Pakistan.
Speaker 4: I've got some opinion around the way the n Z
Speaker 4: can climb their way out of the fiscal hole that
Speaker 4: they've found themselves in might.
Speaker 3: Not be popular.
Speaker 4: They might have to sell their sould to plastic, but
Speaker 4: I think that it worked. And then Clay Wilson joined
Speaker 4: us in the chamber of Clays, the sports news director
Speaker 4: for News Talk to ZB.
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Speaker 5: sports bloke of the year gold medal Olympic hijack boss.
Speaker 4: Hamish Ker might not be leaping at the upcoming World
Speaker 4: Indoor Champs and Nanjing. He hasn't qualified, but he seems unconcerned.
Speaker 3: He's a busy lady.
Speaker 6: Come my season short Postparis, and I just meant I
Speaker 6: didn't actually do any comps within the windows, so yeah,
Speaker 6: still just trying to knock that off and then also
Speaker 6: just trying to work out with a need to go.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of things kind of pulling
Speaker 6: in vierious directions these days.
Speaker 4: Dan Carter, Southbridge's greatest export, has joined the mob climbing
Speaker 4: into Fantasy Super Rugby Pacific tweety twenty.
Speaker 3: Five at the behest of his child.
Speaker 4: Carter, the husband of chemist warehouse speaker Honored Dylan, hasn't
Speaker 4: covered himself in glory though, and he has to leave
Speaker 4: his best pick on the bench this week.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm probably pretty low after one, although I did
Speaker 8: have Dame McKenzie as captain, so he's got me a
Speaker 8: few points. But I find the Crusaders this week, so
Speaker 8: I think I must have dropped my captain.
Speaker 9: Mac sorry mate.
Speaker 4: And seven times Fourgulna one World Champs. S Lewis Hamilton
Speaker 4: has received a rousing reception at F one's official launch.
Speaker 4: The Englishman who jumped ship from mer Sadies to Ferrari
Speaker 4: in the off season is upbeat. Now just wait until
Speaker 4: the wheels fall off and the Taphosi come acclling.
Speaker 10: In bigger easy, because I feel so full of life
Speaker 10: and so much energy because everything's new, and just focus
Speaker 10: on what's up ahead. I'm so proud to be a
Speaker 10: part of the team, something new and exciting.
Speaker 3: The Taphosi here, that's the fanatical Italian Ferrari fan base,
Speaker 3: and they are today's sports speak samples.
Speaker 2: You say it's sports Fix with Dancie Valdegrave.
Speaker 4: As we all know in z Are aren't exactly great
Speaker 4: with money. Well, they try really hard, but it just
Speaker 4: seems to run through their fingers like sands through the
Speaker 4: hour glass. These are the days of their lives. So
Speaker 4: how can they get more cash? So Jim Radcliffe doesn't
Speaker 4: want to give them any at all, not entirely sure
Speaker 4: what's going on with silver Ac. I don't think anyone
Speaker 4: else is either. So how do they pay the wagers
Speaker 4: bill of all of the All Blacks and everybody else
Speaker 4: beneath them. Here's my cunning plan. It's a master plan.
Speaker 4: You can thank me later. There's a blake floating around
Speaker 4: New Zealand at the moment that appears to be spending
Speaker 4: a lot of time on Twitter, a lot of time
Speaker 4: telling people exactly.
Speaker 3: What he thinks. This bloke has also got powerful.
Speaker 4: Amounts of cash, stupid amounts of money. How did he
Speaker 4: get that money? Well, he's reconstituted plastic and sold it globally.
Speaker 4: His name is Nick Mowbray. He's in charge or part
Speaker 4: of the group that runs Zuru Toys. So why not
Speaker 4: sell All Blacks naming rights to Zuru. This is It's
Speaker 4: not as stupid as it seems. This is a fantastic
Speaker 4: idea zero across the front of the All Blacks. Imagine
Speaker 4: the licensing for the toys that they could sell once
Speaker 4: they've climbed on with the all Blacks. It is all
Speaker 4: most limitless. It will go absolutely global. They have a
Speaker 4: knack for understanding what the kids want, and the kids,
Speaker 4: of course are the growth area, and of course the
Speaker 4: adults to what the kids want. It just grows exponentially.
Speaker 4: He's been extraordinarily successful with Zeru. I think he wants
Speaker 4: to do something good with his money and what can
Speaker 4: be better than contributing to our national game. And the
Speaker 4: All Blacks come on and said, are go and knock
Speaker 4: on the door. You've got no money. You get scanned
Speaker 4: by billionaires all the time. Why not move in with one.
Speaker 4: We hope you can trust the All Blacks with Zeru.
Speaker 4: You're welcome.
Speaker 2: Dissecting the sporting agenda. It's Sportsfix with Darcy Waldgrave.
Speaker 4: That's more and welcome to the podcast to former Black
Speaker 4: Cap all rounder and a man who smashed the winning
Speaker 4: runs and the Champions Trophy way back in the day,
Speaker 4: Chris Kensky. Chris, I trust you well and I'm looking
Speaker 4: forward to the entertainment. Must be hard for you looking
Speaker 4: at the Champions Trophy which does start at ten o'clock's
Speaker 4: Pakistan without going all the way back in history to
Speaker 4: that wonderful day when the Black CAP's actually won something
Speaker 4: of promise and prominence and you scored the tonne hit
Speaker 4: the winning run.
Speaker 3: So you got to go back there memory lane, don't you. Chris.
Speaker 9: It was more the fact that adam PERORI nearly broke
Speaker 9: my back when he jumped on me sort of as
Speaker 9: we were running off the field, which is sort of
Speaker 9: quite a that's actually that's one of my most vivid
Speaker 9: memories made of sort of turning around and seeing MAVs
Speaker 9: sort of sprinting towards me and I'm going, he's not
Speaker 9: slowing down, so boom I collected him and and we
Speaker 9: headed off the field. And yeah, look it was a
Speaker 9: it was a it was a wonderful I mean put
Speaker 9: it in perspective. Look, we only won three games, right,
Speaker 9: so I mean we won a global trophy. We big zim.
Speaker 9: I didn't play the Semisu, we won the first machgan Zim.
Speaker 9: I played the sim against Pakistan. Roger Two's played really
Speaker 9: really well in that and so contributions from everybody. And
Speaker 9: then in the final against the good Indian side and
Speaker 9: and so mate, it was it was really rewarding with
Speaker 9: a good group of guys and also you know under
Speaker 9: Tristy and Jeff Crow to sort of share that, and
Speaker 9: you know, and the late Christopher Dorg was in the
Speaker 9: dressing room with us.
Speaker 3: On on that on that moment as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the better CEOs I think New Zealand
Speaker 4: Crickets either had Chris Still you know, you look back
Speaker 4: with you roast in to classes because it was a
Speaker 4: wonderful time and I still remember how stoked I was
Speaker 4: watching that.
Speaker 3: So we're doing it all over again. But let's talk
Speaker 3: about the Champions Trophy and.
Speaker 4: Where it actually sits in the landscape of cricket because
Speaker 4: it is such a congested skyline now with peaks all
Speaker 4: over the show.
Speaker 3: I'm not even sure where this sits.
Speaker 8: Do you know?
Speaker 3: Do the players not? Does anybody know?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 9: I think you're right, sir, I mean, just looking at
Speaker 9: them made So it's the first time it's been played
Speaker 9: since twenty seventeen, so we're talking eight years since they've
Speaker 9: sort of dusted it off and brought it back out.
Speaker 9: I mean, we've had COVID in between that and whatnot,
Speaker 9: so it seems to be, you know, a bit of
Speaker 9: an after thought.
Speaker 3: We've got the.
Speaker 9: ICC T twenty World Cup, there's the fifty over comp
Speaker 9: and then you know, there's this sort of I suppose
Speaker 9: shortened high intensity Champions Trophy game where the top eight
Speaker 9: teams and you know, you go through so effectively made
Speaker 9: it sort of cuts out all the bollocks of a
Speaker 9: World Cup at the beginning and you get down to
Speaker 9: the business end. And that's essentially what this is so
Speaker 9: it's you know, you've got to you got to win
Speaker 9: from the start, and you know every match matters.
Speaker 3: Simplicity.
Speaker 4: I think this is something that a lot of us
Speaker 4: really treasure in this day and age where there's so
Speaker 4: many complexities and nuance around so many competitions in sport.
Speaker 4: This is nice and simple to group. So for the
Speaker 4: top two from each group play in the semi finals,
Speaker 4: you have a final, and then bang, it's all over.
Speaker 4: There's something refreshing about that, Chris.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it sort of goes back to us, like to
Speaker 9: ninety two and the World Cup when we had the
Speaker 9: nine teams and everybody played everybody, and you know, and
Speaker 9: it was every every match, every match counted. And the
Speaker 9: good thing with this tournament and may compared to some
Speaker 9: of the elongated tournaments that they've done now to sort
Speaker 9: of get extra games for you know, broadcast contracts and
Speaker 9: revenues and delivering matches, et cetera. This is every every
Speaker 9: game now will be a good game and or a
Speaker 9: good match, and so you know that that's the positive
Speaker 9: side to it. You shouldn't sit through too many one
Speaker 9: side of or lopside of games, so you know, the
Speaker 9: players will have to be up for it straight away,
Speaker 9: where where it sort of sets sore is going forward?
Speaker 9: You know, I don't know, you know, I really I
Speaker 9: really don't. But look it's only I think, what it's
Speaker 9: only a week and a half or two weeks, you know,
Speaker 9: compared to a five or six week of a World Cup,
Speaker 9: So you know it's a bit of a in there
Speaker 9: and and sort of thrash it out and a winner.
Speaker 4: New Zellan I've got more than a starters chance of
Speaker 4: actually doing well on this time.
Speaker 3: And haven't they?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think they have made I mean then the leader,
Speaker 9: you know, the form's been, perform has been great. But
Speaker 9: then you look at the women's t twenty and their
Speaker 9: form is horrendous and.
Speaker 3: They ended up winning the tournament.
Speaker 9: I think these tournaments are like that, right. I don't
Speaker 9: think you can take any form before the tournament as
Speaker 9: any indicator whatsoever. And so it comes into winning that
Speaker 9: first match. You know, you get a good feel within
Speaker 9: the camp and you get a roll on. It's as
Speaker 9: simple as that.
Speaker 3: Made.
Speaker 9: The teams that win first up I think sort of
Speaker 9: give themselves a huge chance in the tournament straight away.
Speaker 9: And New Zealand's done all the front running against Pakistan,
Speaker 9: and the two matches that had just previously in the
Speaker 9: warm up played brilliantly. You know, leed really really well
Speaker 9: by Mitch Satner, both him and embraceful bowling. You know,
Speaker 9: twenty overs of quality spin. Matt Henry just continues to
Speaker 9: do what he does. You know, Willow Rawkes, he's he's
Speaker 9: going to be special. And then you know, I've got
Speaker 9: those power headers in the middle, so that they've got
Speaker 9: a really nice unit New Zealand.
Speaker 3: But look, we always have a nice unit.
Speaker 9: So you know, but Pakistan first up in Pakistan, not
Speaker 9: having had any international tournament there for twenty years, they
Speaker 9: were on a massive hot streak leading into the matches
Speaker 9: against New Zealand and they hadn't lost any matches so
Speaker 9: and they chased down three fifty I think against South
Speaker 9: Africa as well in the tournament. So that's a dangerous,
Speaker 9: dangerous team. So if you get the crowd going and
Speaker 9: they get their tails up, I think Harris Ralf, I'm
Speaker 9: not sure if he's still injured, but if he comes back,
Speaker 9: you know, they've got a strong quick bowling trio. So
Speaker 9: they're going to be really dangerous. Made if New Zealand
Speaker 9: can can get up over this. That'll that'll, that'll set
Speaker 9: them up really really well for the rest of the tournament.
Speaker 1: The Chamber is now in session on.
Speaker 4: Sports X and direct from the news Talk z B
Speaker 4: Sports news Room, if there's such a thing.
Speaker 3: Director of Sport, Hey Wilson joins us in the Chamber. Hello, Clay.
Speaker 3: There is a news room out there, isn't there?
Speaker 8: There is still a newsroom that runs out there, beavering
Speaker 8: away and bringing the news.
Speaker 7: To the people, finding out everything we need to know
Speaker 7: about sport, which is while we've got your you here
Speaker 7: to talk about the big sports stories of the day,
Speaker 7: I don't want to start off with the All Blacks
Speaker 7: return to the scene of the crime, back to Soldier
Speaker 7: Field in early November up against Ireland. I've got no money, right,
Speaker 7: they need to sell this like quids and they will,
Speaker 7: won't they?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Absolutely. I think like the the idea of taking games
Speaker 8: to the US from the start and still remains to
Speaker 8: be primarily for New Zealand rugby about cash and I
Speaker 8: don't think you can blame them on a lot of
Speaker 8: fronts really, obviously the game. You know, we've talked at
Speaker 8: nauseum in various different contexts about New Zealand rugby in
Speaker 8: their financial position and the need to drive revenue and
Speaker 8: not and this time they've got a, like you say,
Speaker 8: a storyline to kind of work around, haven't they, Because
Speaker 8: they've had a game there it didn't go well for
Speaker 8: the All Blacks, so now they can you know, work
Speaker 8: that that kind of angle around this game as well.
Speaker 4: I think it's consistency of appearances in the United States
Speaker 4: of America. Plainly they're building up and up and up
Speaker 4: with Major League rugby over there. I've got a lot
Speaker 4: of expats over in the United States of America helping,
Speaker 4: and of course the World Cup is on its way
Speaker 4: for men and women, so they need traction and by
Speaker 4: using the All Blacks, which is the biggest brain in
Speaker 4: world rugby, to make it, I suppose common ground for
Speaker 4: the American public. I think it's important slightly, but surely
Speaker 4: they'll break through.
Speaker 3: Possibly.
Speaker 8: Yeah, if people are going to continues on the rapey,
Speaker 8: we say we're going to pay you X amount of
Speaker 8: dollars if you bring the All Blacks here, and that's
Speaker 8: something is significant, you know, in terms of the terms
Speaker 8: of rugby. I think we've spoken about this as well.
Speaker 8: Breaking through in the US I don't necessarily see it.
Speaker 8: The landscape there is dominated by so many other sports.
Speaker 8: But if rugby can get a small foothold in the
Speaker 8: US one or two percent, whatever the figure is, it's
Speaker 8: still a big market. It's still worth a lot of money.
Speaker 8: So yeah, really, I no brainer that it sounded like
Speaker 8: it was always going this way. They were trying to
Speaker 8: make this this game happen, and it works well. In
Speaker 8: terms of going over to do the northern two of
Speaker 8: the End of View tour, they can stop and on
Speaker 8: the way.
Speaker 4: I can guarantee they won't turn up half baked like
Speaker 4: last time around, will they?
Speaker 3: It won't just be We'll be fine. It's just the
Speaker 3: Irics to America. It's a display orps what want?
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, like of this game is about primarily
Speaker 8: about money. But for those players that were involved, and
Speaker 8: even the ones that are playing now that watched on
Speaker 8: there is that i'ment to it now that that that's,
Speaker 8: like you say, the scene of the crime, those players
Speaker 8: will want to get some kind of revenge, redemption, whatever
Speaker 8: you want to call it, for what happened and how
Speaker 8: significant that was. It was such a big blow to
Speaker 8: kind of the all blacks, you know, or to whe
Speaker 8: whenever you lose to a team you've never lost to.
Speaker 8: So so yeah, look, I think this this game will
Speaker 8: will have interest just for that alone.
Speaker 4: Wait to them Americans starts splitting the halves up into
Speaker 4: quarters so they can fit more commercial revenue.
Speaker 3: Only a matter of time. Let's move away from that.
Speaker 3: Let's move to the Champions Trophy gets under way tonight.
Speaker 3: Where where does this sit for you? Because it's such
Speaker 3: a pope.
Speaker 4: Arri of icy seed tournaments non icy seed tournaments every
Speaker 4: half an hour, there's another major.
Speaker 3: Of cricket and I don't know is it losing it? Shine?
Speaker 3: Where does this sit for you?
Speaker 8: Clay Well, we're just talking about money and Chicago and rugby.
Speaker 8: Why was the Champions Trophy started in the first place?
Speaker 8: From memory, it was around kind of generate more revenue
Speaker 8: for cre So.
Speaker 3: Where does the Champions Trophy sit for u? Clay Well,
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 8: It's a tournament, it's another tournament. What does it actually mean?
Speaker 8: I don't really think it particularly has any kind of
Speaker 8: real signal. That's a penicill event, Come on, man. But
Speaker 8: that's not to say that I won't watch it. When
Speaker 8: the black Caps are playing at an international level particularly
Speaker 8: because quite often when the black Caps play, especially in
Speaker 8: white ball cricket, if it's not an ICC tournament, it
Speaker 8: doesn't what does it really mean? They play for rankings, okay, but.
Speaker 3: For all stuff, and it loses a bit of it's punch.
Speaker 8: Do we really care about it that much? Not that
Speaker 8: we don't watch, but I just think, you know, when
Speaker 8: you when you have a white ball white you have
Speaker 8: white ball cricket matches that the black Caps are playing,
Speaker 8: and they actually have a meaning for something. It's something
Speaker 8: to get behind, especially if they do well. Right, So yeah,
Speaker 8: let's let's see if people get behind it. But a
Speaker 8: simple format, you know, two pools of four, you get
Speaker 8: in the top two in your pool, you got to
Speaker 8: semi finals, which is refreshing in this day and age,
Speaker 8: isn't it. I don't know about you, but I feel
Speaker 8: like so many talent's not even cricket these days, but
Speaker 8: so many tournaments try and follow Football's Champions League. You
Speaker 8: have to have a degree in like quantum physics to
Speaker 8: figure out how the groups work, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: So it's refreshing, isn't it? To have a simple form?
Speaker 4: Are you likely to stay out to the very grim
Speaker 4: death that starts at ten finishes probably four or five
Speaker 4: in the morning, is near.
Speaker 8: And talk to me when we get to a semi final,
Speaker 8: a fair enough maybe a final, probably a semi final. Yeah,
Speaker 8: come back, come back to me when we heard.
Speaker 4: The other lost cool peak your battles, and you'll know
Speaker 4: exactly what I do, because the next few days at work,
Speaker 4: well tomorrow specifically, it's going to be a train wreck
Speaker 4: because I would have had absolutely no sleep. More soever,
Speaker 4: moving on to yet another how many stories, how many consortiums,
Speaker 4: how many groups of people are trying to get another
Speaker 4: an RL team or get State of Origin over to
Speaker 4: New Zealand. It's a broken recorders. Sir Graham Low, I
Speaker 4: love him very much. Fantastic career. He's hitched his name
Speaker 4: to another wagon. It's not happening. It's never going to happen,
Speaker 4: is it.
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 8: I mean I don't see I don't see any signs
Speaker 8: in the in the short to medium to even long
Speaker 8: term future that it's going to happen. Obviously, the Southern Orcas,
Speaker 8: which are one of the christ huge bids for a
Speaker 8: new NRL team, they've come out and said that they
Speaker 8: think they can get State of Origin to Christ Judge
Speaker 8: obviously to Kaha. The new stadium is about to open.
Speaker 4: That's probably the biggest drawer car, possibly the only drawer car.
Speaker 8: But one thing that's really missing here is the NRL
Speaker 8: saying anything about it. The ARL who effectively own and
Speaker 8: run State of Origin, so the key.
Speaker 4: Stakeholders haven't said anything. It's just some noise coming from
Speaker 4: Christ here.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and look, without knowing, you know how much real
Speaker 8: traction is behind this, and you know, if the NRL
Speaker 8: are interested at all, what I can see in this
Speaker 8: stuff today is that they haven't spoken to the NRL,
Speaker 8: and the NRL haven't said anything about about this, and
Speaker 8: that leads me to presume that this perhaps it could
Speaker 8: just be a way of drumming up a bit of momentum,
Speaker 8: a drive, even a way of getting the n L
Speaker 8: to the table to talk about their bid to get
Speaker 8: in the NRL. Is it just leverage for that? I
Speaker 8: don't know, but you know, I think.
Speaker 3: They're using us, argue, they're using us to get into
Speaker 3: the news.
Speaker 4: Maybe someone will listen there too, busy schmoozing Donald Trump,
Speaker 4: they're not listening.
Speaker 8: And do you know what I don't If I was them,
Speaker 8: i'd probably be doing this the same things makes sense.
Speaker 8: I don't necessarily blame them for it. I just think, yeah,
Speaker 8: like you say, we've had that many stories and releases
Speaker 8: about bids, and now a bid saying that they're going
Speaker 8: to get stut of origin here. If the NRL, the ARL,
Speaker 8: the organizations that control these things aren't saying anything, then
Speaker 8: you know it's not really anything to get too weaked
Speaker 8: up about, does it?
Speaker 3: They make a noise that definitely bumps the needle.
Speaker 8: If Peter Valandi's comes out and says we're actually quite
Speaker 8: interested in that, boom, there's your story, you know, because
Speaker 8: he won't say it if he doesn't really mean it.
Speaker 8: And whether that's about the bid state of Origin coming
Speaker 8: to New Zealand. But until that happens, and I haven't
Speaker 8: seen any sign years until that happens. But great, great
Speaker 8: if it happens. I mean, with the state of origins
Speaker 8: in New Zealand, are you going to go and try
Speaker 8: and watch that game?
Speaker 3: Hell?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah? So as a fan, bring it on. You know,
Speaker 8: I would love for it to happen, but I'll get
Speaker 8: excited when I know that it's actually happening.
Speaker 4: Clay Wilson, Sports news director for News Talks here, be
Speaker 4: get to back into that newsroom and round up some
Speaker 4: of your staff and get on the working Thank you
Speaker 4: very much for your time, mister wils So.
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